Re: [digitalradio] Anyone using DigiTRX (Ver 3.11) for ditigal TV?`

2007-03-03 Thread w6ids

Hey Dave

As I understand it, DigiTRX won't run on less than WIN XP.. I tried it 
with
Win98 and failed to be able to transmit.  I WAS able to receive pictures
and I've been told that wasn't quite normal.  Others have not been able to
get Digi going on anything other than at least XP; the programs allegedly
have been written for no less than that OS.

Others have said that you need at least a 1 Ghz machine to make things
go in Digi... I haven't seen that myself - my DigiTRX is working just 
fine.
I only need to acquire a linear amp to get the transmit going.

I run DigiTRX myself on a PIII @650 Mhz..an oldie.  Personally, I like
DigiTRX over the current offerings but I've never been one to follow the 
pack
as it were.

What do you mean the constellation never stabilizes?
Can you pass along your settings as you have them?

I noticed that Andrew sent you a message.  He's pretty good with the
Digi thingies.

Howard W6IDS
Richmond, IN

- Original Message - 
From: David Kruh
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 10:53 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] Anyone using DigiTRX (Ver 3.11) for ditigal TV?`

I can't use Easy Pal because I'm running Windows Me on on older Dell
Laptop. I run DIGTRX and can see the ID in the waterfall but the
constellation never stabilizes to see the picture. Does anyone use
DIGTRX?



[digitalradio] Re: Anyone using DigiTRX (Ver 3.11) for ditigal TV?`

2007-03-03 Thread cesco12342000
 As I understand it, DigiTRX won't run on less than WIN XP.. 

No. Digtrx runs happily on win98. But you need 1ghz or better.




[digitalradio] PSK125 on 30M ?

2007-03-03 Thread Andrew O'Brien
I was parked on 10147 while typing some email and heard some very
short audio bursts, each time too quick for me to tune them in .
Eventually I locked in on it and tried PSK31 , then PSK63 but with no
luck.  I then tried PSK125 in the middle of a short bust.  Amid the
lower case  garbage characters I suddenly decoded an upper case QSL.
 It might have been random but maybe I did decode them.  Any idea who
is using short burst of PSK125.  PSKMAIL perhaps ?
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Re: [digitalradio] PSK125 on 30M ?

2007-03-03 Thread Darrel Smith

Hi Andy,

That QSL is coming from a pskmail server. That is the response to a  
client sending out a beacon, usually every 10 minutes or so. If you  
listen around 3 minutes after the hour it should beacon the callsign  
of the server.


Darrel

On 3-Mar-07, at 1:48 PM, Andrew O'Brien wrote:


I was parked on 10147 while typing some email and heard some very
short audio bursts, each time too quick for me to tune them in .
Eventually I locked in on it and tried PSK31 , then PSK63 but with no
luck. I then tried PSK125 in the middle of a short bust. Amid the
lower case garbage characters I suddenly decoded an upper case QSL.
It might have been random but maybe I did decode them. Any idea who
is using short burst of PSK125. PSKMAIL perhaps ?
-, -
Andy K3UK
Skype Me : callto://andyobrien73
www.obriensweb.com






[digitalradio] Re: Anyone using DigiTRX (Ver 3.11) for ditigal TV?`

2007-03-03 Thread David Kruh

Thank you Howard, Andrew, and the others who have chipped in with
suggestions.

The PC is a Dell laptop PII at 166MHz, which makes your oldie look
like a newie  Others have also told me DigiTX won't work, neither will
HamPal.  I'm trying WinDRM but today is the contest and the band is
jammed with people making 2 second contacts (how fast can *you* talk?)

As to your question about the constellation, I have psoted a picture of
a sscreen shot of DIGITRX during an unsucessful receive.

http://www.bambinomusical.com/Constellation.jpg
http://www.bambinomusical.com/Constellation.jpg




--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, w6ids [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hey Dave

 As I understand it, DigiTRX won't run on less than WIN XP.. I
tried it
 with
 Win98 and failed to be able to transmit. I WAS able to receive
pictures
 and I've been told that wasn't quite normal. Others have not been able
to
 get Digi going on anything other than at least XP; the programs
allegedly
 have been written for no less than that OS.

 Others have said that you need at least a 1 Ghz machine to make things
 go in Digi... I haven't seen that myself - my DigiTRX is working
just
 fine.
 I only need to acquire a linear amp to get the transmit going.

 I run DigiTRX myself on a PIII @650 Mhz..an oldie. Personally, I
like
 DigiTRX over the current offerings but I've never been one to follow
the
 pack
 as it were.

 What do you mean the constellation never stabilizes?
 Can you pass along your settings as you have them?

 I noticed that Andrew sent you a message. He's pretty good with the
 Digi thingies.

 Howard W6IDS
 Richmond, IN

 - Original Message -
 From: David Kruh
 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 10:53 PM
 Subject: [digitalradio] Anyone using DigiTRX (Ver 3.11) for ditigal
TV?`

 I can't use Easy Pal because I'm running Windows Me on on older Dell
 Laptop. I run DIGTRX and can see the ID in the waterfall but the
 constellation never stabilizes to see the picture. Does anyone use
 DIGTRX?





Re: [digitalradio] PSK125 on 30M ?

2007-03-03 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Cool, first time I have heard them.
Andy.

On 3/3/07, Darrel Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Hi Andy,


 That QSL is coming from a pskmail server. That is the response to a client 
 sending out a beacon, usually every 10 minutes or so. If you listen around 3 
 minutes after the hour it should beacon the callsign of the server.


 Darrel


Re: [digitalradio] Turkey being served on 80M

2007-03-03 Thread Darrel Smith

Andy,

If conditions are really good tonight you might hear our pskmail  
server (VE7SUN) or my client (VE7CUS) on 3595.25+1khz using psk125.  
80 meters was very good last night as we had a NC station check into  
our RTTY net last night at 8pm PST with a very good signal.


Darrel

On 3-Mar-07, at 4:10 PM, Andrew O'Brien wrote:


Lots of ALE on 3589 tonight.
Andy k3UK







Re: [digitalradio] Turkey being served on 80M

2007-03-03 Thread Andrew O'Brien

Download Multipsk and use the  mode labeled 141A.  Start with UNPROTO .
Andy

On 3/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'm completely new to this mode so how about a 10 point get me going
list..What program is the absolute easiest to use...settings,
whatever...yada...yada

Gary
n8gsj


On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 00:10:12 - Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 Lots of ALE on 3589 tonight.
 Andy k3UK

 





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Re: [digitalradio] Turkey being served on 80M

2007-03-03 Thread Danny Douglas
I find Multipsk difficult to use, and I have been using PSK for years.Just 
too much on the screen to start with.  New people need to get on and use a 
simple PSK only program.  Go to http://aintel.bi.ehu.es/psk31.html
and read about it first and see what you are going to do.
Then go to http://aintel.bi.ehu.es/psk31.html  where there are several programs 
listed, and read up on the different ones.   

Danny Douglas N7DC
ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA
SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all
DX 2-6 years each
.
QSL LOTW-buro- direct
As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you
use that - also pls upload to LOTW
or hard card.

moderator  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk
  - Original Message - 
  From: Andrew O'Brien 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 9:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Turkey being served on 80M


  Download Multipsk and use the  mode labeled 141A.  Start with UNPROTO . 
  Andy


  On 3/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm completely new to this mode so how about a 10 point get me going 
list..What program is the absolute easiest to use...settings, 
whatever...yada...yada 

Gary
n8gsj


On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 00:10:12 - Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
 Lots of ALE on 3589 tonight.
 Andy k3UK





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Re: [digitalradio] Re: Anyone using DigiTRX (Ver 3.11) for ditigal TV?`

2007-03-03 Thread w6ids

Understood.  I've sort of heard grumblings over time about it but never
had first hand experience with it.  Your insight into it just might be of
use to.  That said, you'd think that he would be able to at least be
able to receive Digi transmissions butas you're pointing out, there's
more to this ultimately.  Wonder how WinDRM will work for him,
under WinME?

Howard W6IDS
Richmond, IN

- Original Message - 
From: Danny Douglas
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Anyone using DigiTRX (Ver 3.11) for ditigal 
TV?`

Howard, you are probably gonna hear it a lot, but ME is one of the worst, if
not the worst pieces of software that MS has ever turned out. Try updating
that computer to something like W2000, which is should handle fine. ME
isnt supported by most software packages.



Re: [digitalradio] Re: Anyone using DigiTRX (Ver 3.11) for ditigal TV?`

2007-03-03 Thread Danny Douglas
I have no idea.  Have never used WinDRM.  But have some experience with M at
the college where I worked, and it plainly stunk and we got rid of it within
a few weeks after trying it.

Danny Douglas N7DC
ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA
SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all
DX 2-6 years each
.
QSL LOTW-buro- direct
As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you
use that - also pls upload to LOTW
or hard card.

moderator  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk
- Original Message - 
From: w6ids [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Anyone using DigiTRX (Ver 3.11) for ditigal
TV?`



 Understood.  I've sort of heard grumblings over time about it but never
 had first hand experience with it.  Your insight into it just might be of
 use to.  That said, you'd think that he would be able to at least be
 able to receive Digi transmissions butas you're pointing out, there's
 more to this ultimately.  Wonder how WinDRM will work for him,
 under WinME?

 Howard W6IDS
 Richmond, IN

 - Original Message - 
 From: Danny Douglas
 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 7:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Anyone using DigiTRX (Ver 3.11) for
ditigal
 TV?`

 Howard, you are probably gonna hear it a lot, but ME is one of the worst,
if
 not the worst pieces of software that MS has ever turned out. Try updating
 that computer to something like W2000, which is should handle fine. ME
 isnt supported by most software packages.





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Re: [digitalradio] Turkey being served on 80M

2007-03-03 Thread tailfeathers
I was just referring to ALE in my post...

Gary

On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 21:26:17 -0500 Danny Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I find Multipsk difficult to use, and I have been using PSK for years.   
Just too much on the screen to start with.  New people need to get on and
use a simple PSK only program.  Go to http://aintel.bi.ehu.es/psk31.html
and read about it first and see what you are going to do.
Then go to http://aintel.bi.ehu.es/psk31.html  where there are several
programs listed, and read up on the different ones.   

Danny Douglas N7DC
ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA
SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all
DX 2-6 years each
.
QSL LOTW-buro- direct
As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you
use that - also pls upload to LOTW
or hard card.

moderator  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk
- Original Message - 
From: Andrew O'Brien 
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Turkey being served on 80M


Download Multipsk and use the  mode labeled 141A.  Start with UNPROTO .

Andy


On 3/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
I'm completely new to this mode so how about a 10 point get me going
list..What program is the absolute easiest to use...settings,
whatever...yada...yada 

Gary
n8gsj


On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 00:10:12 - Andrew O'Brien
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Lots of ALE on 3589 tonight.
 Andy k3UK




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[digitalradio] Noise Reduction and the digital modes

2007-03-03 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Noise reduction on my old rig never did much.  Now I have a new rig
the NR buttons actually appear to do some things.  What about noise
reduction and the digital modes, is it really helpful?  I did just
notice that with a Hell QSO NR made the print more blurred.  For other
modes I have not noticed much other than a lot less speckles in the
waterfall.  Maybe a graphically empty waterfall  helps when a weak
signal comes along  but i worry the weak signal may get zapped by the
NR.  Comments ?

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[digitalradio] Re: Turkey being served on 80M

2007-03-03 Thread Bill McLaughlin
I agree for just BPSK31 that Multipsk can be intimidating..but even I 
sorted it out after abit of floundering about. As for ALE, it is 
more a system than a modeARQ FAE is actually fairly simple 
compared to PC-ALE and its counterparts. ARQ FAE might best be viewed 
as a connected mode independant of ALE; more like PAX/PAX2 on 
steroids (and hence wider, like people on steroids :)

ARQ FAE works quite well, had numerous qso today using that mode but 
still cringe abit on using a 2000 Hz wide signal for data modes...

73,

Bill  N9DSJ

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, I thought that.  Multipsk is the software you need.
 
 On 03 Mar 2007 19:09:17 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 I was just referring to ALE in my post...
 
  Gary




Re: [digitalradio] Re: Turkey being served on 80M

2007-03-03 Thread Andrew O'Brien

Yep, I was cringing watching you Bill, seems awfully wide.  I did try a
connect to you earlier on 80M but no link.
Andy.

On 3/3/07, Bill McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  I agree for just BPSK31 that Multipsk can be intimidating..but even I
sorted it out after abit of floundering about. As for ALE, it is
more a system than a modeARQ FAE is actually fairly simple
compared to PC-ALE and its counterparts. ARQ FAE might best be viewed
as a connected mode independant of ALE; more like PAX/PAX2 on
steroids (and hence wider, like people on steroids :)

ARQ FAE works quite well, had numerous qso today using that mode but
still cringe abit on using a 2000 Hz wide signal for data modes...

73,

Bill N9DSJ

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com,
Andrew O'Brien
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, I thought that. Multipsk is the software you need.

 On 03 Mar 2007 19:09:17 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  I was just referring to ALE in my post...
 
  Gary

 





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[digitalradio] Re: Noise Reduction and the digital modes

2007-03-03 Thread Bill McLaughlin
Hi Andy,

Assume you mean DSP noise reduction...have never seen any real 
effect 
of note either way on digital modes...even on HELL. The noise blanker 
degrades some WSJT modes but otherwise have seen little impact on 
received digital decodes. 

On Hell, at least Feld Hell, the AGC seems to matter alot 
moreslower AGC seems to de-blur the received print and reduce 
screen noise. 

Interesting question though.


73,

Bill N9DSJ




--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Noise reduction on my old rig never did much.  Now I have a new rig
 the NR buttons actually appear to do some things.  What about noise
 reduction and the digital modes, is it really helpful?  I did just
 notice that with a Hell QSO NR made the print more blurred.  For 
other
 modes I have not noticed much other than a lot less speckles in 
the
 waterfall.  Maybe a graphically empty waterfall  helps when a weak
 signal comes along  but i worry the weak signal may get zapped by 
the
 NR.  Comments ?
 
 -- 
 Andy K3UK
 Skype Me :  callto://andyobrien73
 www.obriensweb.com





[digitalradio] Re: Turkey being served on 80M

2007-03-03 Thread Bill McLaughlin
Hi Andy,

Well many cringe on hearing me, regardless of mode...at least ARQ FAE 
is more narrow than the umpteen ssb signals that abound. Is 
interesting conceptually. 

Saw you on 80 also but condx between us seemed less than optimum...am 
sure another night will bode better.


73,

Bill N9DSJ


--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yep, I was cringing watching you Bill, seems awfully wide.  I did 
try a
 connect to you earlier on 80M but no link.
 Andy.