Re: [tdf-discuss] OpenOffice.org articles in Linux Format March 2011
On Saturday 12 February 2011 09:35:59 Kevin Hunter wrote: At 8:24am -0500 Fri, 11 Feb 2011, Gordon Burgess-parker wrote: On 11/02/11 13:03, Christophe Strobbe wrote: 1. Improve the loading speed. 20. Once more: faster loading. I really don't know how they can say that. Because they don't know how to eloquently say that the quickstarter is a no-go. The name quickstarter is a misnomer. It should be preloader, because that's what it actually does. (But that doesn't sound as sexy, I know.) How the quickstarter works is have use gobs of memory effectively sitting idle. That doesn't work. Many of us in the computing, engineering, physics, and chemical fields *use* our computational resources. Start up time is down to the the OS. I used to think the same as you. However this is what I have found. Start up on Ubuntu Gnome box is slow, slower than XP startup. OpenSuSE KDE4 box again slowish but like the others not gruesomely slow. But on my Yoper KDE4 box ,cold start up is almost instant and certainly faster than MSO on XPSP2. Yoper is a distro optimised for speed so obviously the problem is not all in the OOo/LibO code On Windows 7, Open Office 3.3 loads a new Writer document (with Quickstarter enabled) almost INSTANTANEOUSLY, [...] How fast do they WANT it to load? Both those times compare VERY favourably with MS Office and in fact on Windows OO is FASTER then MS Office for the above reason. The short answer is that the quickstarter doesn't count: I want it to load as fast or faster than MSO /without/ the quickstarter. MSO can do it, from a cold boot, fast. Why can't LO? MSO has a quickstarter in it's integration with the OS. Compare the speed of MSO opening in Windows environment as opposed to Apple and Apple has a very fast GUI Cheers, Kevin -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Take over of Novell
On Tuesday 23 November 2010 21:14:39 Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Le Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:04:27 -0800, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net a écrit : On 11/22/2010 10:10 AM, Ian Lynch wrote: Is the take over of Novell going to affect the document foundation? Actually, isn't this sort of thing the reason TDF was created to begin with? Yes exactly. And I'm glad to have Michael, Thorsten and the Suse team on board with us, hopefully for a very long time. Cheers, Charles. Amen to that -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Take over of Novell
On Tuesday 23 November 2010 07:10:31 Ian Lynch wrote: Is the take over of Novell going to affect the document foundation? And my question would be; do any of the 882 patents sold to the Microsoft consortium affect the go-ooo code and therefore expose TDF to patent actions? Cheers GL -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: On the Future of TDF
On Tuesday 16 Nov 2010 21:29:45 timofonic timofonic wrote: That's interesting to know about OASIS, thanks for the explanation. What about sharing the document file format support between FOSS related programs? It's the other part of the idea that not got answered :) Please don't top post. Good heavens, have you been hiding under a rock for the last couple of years, ;) that is the whole point of OASIS and ODF and ISO26300, It is already supported by multiple FOSS applications and MSOffice as well, though not well, yet. The ISO format wars was long and bloody but we won. mostly, however the evolution continues. cheers GL On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Le 2010-11-15 17:07, timofonic timofonic a écrit : I propose another idea: What about convert the file support of LibO into a portable, resource efficient, well designed and multiplatform library for all FOSS projects? I would imagine it like the WebKit of document file formats, but governed in a less corporate way. This library would have it´s own site into backed or being a TDF subdomain (or both), and improved between all friend projects. Of course this idea would need lot's of PR, negotiate with different projects and probably even deep changes in the original source code. This could make not only more interoperability, but FOSS projects having a lot stronger file type support. It could be used easily for non-interactive document converters too. A strong official alliance about this and other interoperability stuff could be very good for the FOSS productivity suite. Hi Timofonic. But we already have this with the ODF and the Oasis Consortium of which some of our members sit on their committees. We should instead propose refinements to the ODF rather than add another layer of complexity. Creating another consortium takes a lot of time and negotiation between different groups, not to mention financial backing and legal representation. We already have many cooperating groups using the ODF and it sounds like the ODF has made great strides in being accepted in Europe, unlike N.America where it is still quite unknown. The LO marketing team hopes to make a difference in promoting the ODF formats as well as LO in the Americas as well as everywhere it is unknown. It is all in our interest to do so. Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Open Technologies) www.theingots.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] New Icon theme set
On Tuesday 16 Nov 2010 18:17:15 Nathan wrote: Im not fond of the icon theme set in OOo, and i think LibreOffice would stand to benefit by changing to a new set, something more up to date and polished. I personally like the tango desktop project http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Library the icons are in the public domain and are made for open source applications. It appears that the project even develops new custom theme sets for open source projects. please don't hijack threads, send a new message to start a new thread, starting a new topic in another thread is very bad form. I'm restarting this as a new thread cheers GL -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Open Technologies) www.theingots.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
[tdf-discuss] New Icon theme set
i honestly think migrating away from original OOo icons etc would be a good idea. it will help to set the project apart from OOo and give it its own unique identiy. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Nathan nathan1...@gmail.com wrote: Im not fond of the icon theme set in OOo, and i think LibreOffice would stand to benefit by changing to a new set, something more up to date and polished. I personally like the tango desktop project http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Library the icons are in the public domain and are made for open source applications. It appears that the project even develops new custom theme sets for open source projects. -- Thanks for your time, Nathan Heafner I agree the tango set is great however it is already shipped with OOo and LibreO as an option. (ToolsoptionsLibreOffice ViewIcon size and style) However I admit that I would like to see tango as the default. Cheers GL -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Open Technologies) www.theingots.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] On the Future of TDF
On Monday 15 Nov 2010 00:39:09 Gianluca Turconi wrote: Il 14/11/2010 12.25, Mirek M. ha scritto: I'd really like to see Linux become the primary platform to focus on (yes, Linux has a much smaller user base than Windows, but that will never change if software companies keep favoring Windows). For Linux, OpenOffice.org (going forward LibreOffice) is vital. I hope this *won't* happen, ever. However, I've heard and read several comments about this matter and I'd like to see a (somehow) official statement that confirms LibO will be a multiplatform software *forever*. At least, as priciple. In the facts, it will depend on dev resources. Agreed, LibreO is cross platform, that is it's strength. let's keep it that way. Cheers GL -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Open Technologies) www.theingots.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs
On Thursday 04 Nov 2010 10:33:43 Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-11-03 17:11, Peter Rodwell a écrit : Quoting Graham Lauder: There is an extension which is pretty much a compulsory install on any OOo instance l use and it does what you ask here. http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/search/node/altsearch Thanks! It does indeed do what I want (and a lot more). Now if I can just figure out how to open that when I hit Ctrl-F instead of opening the standard Find Replace... P. Are you really satisfied with this extension? If yes, maybe we could submit is as feature request as a permanent part of the code I'm never without it, it's brilliant. Standard install with all my clients that are heavy writer users. Graham, how well known is this extension? I wonder if it is well know in the power user camp. Maybe Michel could chime in on this one too. 100,000+ downloads this year, so it's reasonably well known amongst Writer power users l suspect, certainly my clients like it a lot and the template changer as well... Marc Cheers GL -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Open Technologies) -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Old Bugs
On Wednesday 03 Nov 2010 06:11:02 Peter Rodwell wrote: Hi Cor: 2. Search and replace. I work with large documents, often 400+ pages. [snip] OK, that is easy to handle with a trick as user, but possibly also an relative easy fix (1)? As I said, when you have to do this constantly, dozens of times a day, it does become a real issue. I would have thought it quite simple to save the current position, do the search and replace then return to the previously-saved position. After all, if MS can do it then it can't be very difficult. :) P. There is an extension which is pretty much a compulsory install on any OOo instance l use and it does what you ask here. http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/search/node/altsearch cheers GL -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Open Technologies) www.theingots.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO program icon brainstorming
On Saturday 30 Oct 2010 12:17:20 Christoph Noack wrote: Hi Ivan, Sorry this took so long, having problems with the list's spam filters, hanks Florian for fixing that. First let me say that these are superb with a couple of minor things that I've put inline Hi Ivan, thanks for the cleanup! And ... Am Samstag, den 30.10.2010, 11:01 +1300 schrieb Ivan M.: Hi all, The number of proposals has grown considerably enough to (IMO) justify their own page, so I have moved the proposals to the Branding section of the marketing wiki: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding/Mimetype_Icons/Prop osals There's a link to the new page on the Marketing Ideas wiki page. ... just a few words concerning your recent work: Absolutely great! And a bit more specific: * LibreOffice Banner: * Nice refinement, especially the slight emboss effect for the logo works great. Also the different shaped gradient works very well ... * I am only unsure whether the homogeneous background pattern is still able to repeat the document icon triangle idea. (It still reminds me of the stylish elevator in You Only Live Twice.). * However, I really this style - should this be the basis for the final LibO branding? (Without having any deadlines in mind). * Colors: Blue, green are great. For the orange, yellow and purple color, the lightest shadings seem to be different from its base color (e.g. the lightest orange looks a green on my computer). I have the same colour issue as well and additionally the impress icon lightest colour seems to have a bit much red in it. looks good in icon but not so in isolation. The base icon also has a similar issue. I'm sure you already invested some time, so this is intended, or? So, how to proceed? May we start to iterate the current LibO colors? Or do you think it might be helpful to further work on your file? At your service, so to say ;-) I'm also not so sure about the application symbols following OOo so closely. I do like the ones in Clio's suggestion however, how they would mix with your(Ivan's) framing would be interesting. However I will also state that there is probably equally good argument to retain a Familial connection, so I'm ambivalent myself, just putting it out there for discussion. As a general comment, I am impressed as hell with the logo and the Docu bug, it's simple, strong, indicative, unique and instantly recognisable. If I had one criticism is that the Docu bug would be better as a dark grey rather than black. The black on white background is a little harsh. I note that this has been obvious to the creators as well because the Docu bug always seems to be displayed on light grey BG which diffuses that harshness. A CMYK value of around 10.0.0.44. looks good and from a visual marketing POV has a more sophisticated reliable and modern feel. I've done an example which I'll put up on the wiki as soon as it allows me, which at it's present pace will be next week sometime! Cheers GL -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Open Technologies) www.theingots.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO program icon brainstorming
On Sunday 31 Oct 2010 02:33:03 Graham Lauder wrote: As a general comment, I am impressed as hell with the logo and the Docu bug, it's simple, strong, indicative, unique and instantly recognisable. If I had one criticism is that the Docu bug would be better as a dark grey rather than black. The black on white background is a little harsh. I note that this has been obvious to the creators as well because the Docu bug always seems to be displayed on light grey BG which diffuses that harshness. A CMYK value of around 10.0.0.44. looks good and from a visual marketing POV has a more sophisticated reliable and modern feel. I've done an example which I'll put up on the wiki as soon as it allows me, which at it's present pace will be next week sometime! Cheers GL Finally on the wiki http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOfficeLogoMod_yo.png Cheers GL -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Open Technologies) -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Basic question about Oracle asking OOo community members to leave
On Monday 18 Oct 2010 16:58:40 M. Fioretti wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 04:48:23 AM +0200, Ramon Sole (ramon.s...@opscons.com) wrote: Both communities will be able to collaborate in tons of things, but the project leaders can't share responsabilities in both projects. If so, why to have two Communities? You can't fork a open source project and keep your responsabilities in the original one! It's astonishing just trying to do it. Thanks Ramon. You've summed up better than I could the two reasons that (without me being even completely aware of them) made me ask the question that started this thread. I was surprised seeing people who started TDF continuing to keep their OOo hats (1). And much more surprised to see all these surprised reactions to Oracle's resignment actions. I mean, I would have said that if there's anything surprising in that is ONLY the fact that it took so long. I'd assume that it took Oracle managers no more than 20 seconds after the initial TDF announcement to decide they wanted to do it, and Oracle lawyers much less than 20 days to decide if they could get away with it. I really don't know if there are other people today that still have any official role in both communities, OOo and TDF (or that have official roles only in OOo but have formally, publicly approved TDF). But if there are such people, I'm very interested to hear if they plan to resign before being resigned, and above all their general opinion about what Ramon said and on how to handle the OOo/Oracle - LibO/TDF relation in the future. thanks, M. Fioretti http://stop.zona-m.net (1) the intrinsical *validity* of the reasons that caused the creation of TDF are a totally separate issue, at least for me! I fully support the ideals of a foundation and have since day one 20001013 I hope that OOo and Oracle become part of the Foundation However, for the foreseeable future and barring any dramatic actions that make it untenable, I will remain firmly part of the OOo team and continue to promote OOo first and foremost, if people ask, and they have, I tell them all I know, but I do it as a OOo's representative in NZ and I make that clear. To me a fork is a good thing, it allows choice, it ensures the longevity of the OOo code and any publicity is good publicity :) Cheers GL -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Open Technologies) www.theingots.org -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal
On Saturday 16 Oct 2010 06:29:06 Michel Gagnon wrote: Le 2010-10-15 13:00, Charles Marcus a écrit : Michel, Fyi, your post is extremely difficult to read due to poor formatting (no line-wrapping and more importantly no paragraph breaks). I will try to find the source of the problem later tonight. I wrote it with quite a few paragraph breaks and a few accented letters. All of that disappeared. Obviously what you received is unreadable. Just use plain text in your email client, switch off the HTML Or use another email client like Thunderbird. Pegasus can be problematic Cheers GL -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Open Technologies) www.theingots.org -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] New name
And now I have to eat humble pie and apologise profusely. I did a search back over the marketing list and the announcement is there on the 28th posted by Varun. I don't know how I missed it and now I feel like such an idiot Thorsten, Charles and Christoph, please accept abject apologies. I shall now go hide in a hole somewheres. Cheers GL -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Open Technologies) www.theingots.org -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
Re: [tdf-discuss] New name
Quoting Christoph Noack christoph.no...@documentfoundation.org: Good evening Graham! Am Dienstag, den 05.10.2010, 19:24 +1300 schrieb Graham Lauder: Thorsten, Charles and Christoph, please accept abject apologies. I shall now go hide in a hole somewheres. Oh, please do not :-) I owe you a lot of respect to state this here, really. Vice versa, please (everyone) please accept our apologies if things sometimes don't work like expected. Especially if it takes us so long to resolve such a (rather) small mis-understanding. So please let's continue to work together ... at the end, it is about the value of the idea :-) Bye, Christoph Ack the hole, was boring and slightly damp in any case, let's do this thing, the world is waiting. :) Cheers GL -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ -- Graham Lauder The Best Things come in 3 http://why.openoffice.org OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) New Zealand http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html INGOTs Assessor Trainer http://www.theingots.org.nz -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
Re: [tdf-discuss] New name
On Monday 04 Oct 2010 23:06:39 Italo Vignoli wrote: James Wilde wrote: As I understand it, most of the development team of OOo jumped ship to set up LibO in anticipation of Oracle making unacceptable changes to the OOo concept. I don't know how many they are, but I'd be surprised if they're over 30, and as far as I and most users are concerned, they own the product. We don't own anything. We have simply started the process, and we have tried to push it forward putting all our enthusiasm and energies behind i t. The process has started a long time before the conference in Budapest, where there have not been any parallel or secret sessions. We have been there as regular OOo community members. I'm sorry, if it's offlist, then for the majority of community members it's secret. That may not seem that way to you, but for the vast majority of the community it is. You can see how this can give the impression that we have another Sun situation going on, critical decisions made away from the community with a fait accompli handed to us on a plate. Here you are, like it or lump it! As far as the process of creation of the group is concerned, I would say that has been very natural: i.e. we have started discussing the problem over beers at OOo conferences, then we have started to write emails and sometimes discuss the subject over the phone or Skype. Those that were in the loop are part of the group of founding members: there has not been any deliberate process for bringing in friends. We have all earned - if I can use this term - the right to belong to the group based on merit and contribution. But the point is, the 30 or whatever developers have been planning this for some time. They didn't launch LibO after a beer last Friday, and they, for better or worse, chose LibreOffice as the name. There is one single concept that has not been raised during the discussion about the name: the OOo (and now LibO) community is in the same marketplace as corporations with a turnover of tens of billions of dollars. Brand names and trademarks are key for protecting the software and the foundation, and our lawyers have suggested to come out with a name which was difficult or impossible to attack. I think that it is time to concentrate on the development of the community and the software. As far as I am concerned, LibreOffice is terrible for Italian speakers, but LibO is nice and cute, especially if you pronounce it with an accent on the last letter: Libò. In any case, thanks for the discussion. Your interest in the project shows that we are on the right track. So perhaps what will come out of this is that we will get a conference out of Europe, so those of us on the other side of the world who have to spend obscene amounts of money to get there, might just find ourselves in the loop. The issue that I find frustrating is that no-one felt it necessary to infor m the community, I got an email from someone who knows me as the MarCon for N Z asking: What's going on with this? I had to say I didn't know. What would have been so hard about putting together something to post to al l the lists at the same time as the press release. It seems there were some areas, like looking after the community, that were ignored. (Odd since it s ays open and transparent in the Vision Statement) How were we to know how long this had been going on, this secret society, planning on the quiet. Even now a week after the press were told we're onl y getting some info in dribs and drabs because some of the secret society see m to be getting a guilt attack. This is not a good look. GL -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Open Technologies) www.theingots.org -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
Re: [tdf-discuss] [GENERAL] New name
of a single company or a singl e person. It champions free software and will continue what OpenOffice.o rg started a while back. The name should not matter, what matters is that users of OpenSource/Free S oftware folks have an office suite that is not tied up to a single company or entity that will control the code. Regards, Antonio Happily using Free and Open Software for some time. Fedora 12/Fedora 13/Slackware 13.1/FreeBSD 8.1/... oliva...@darkstar:~$ uname -r 2.6.35.7-smp Antonio, You in fact wear the best argument for a unique name in your sig. Who is arguably the most successful Open Source company: Red Hat What in gods name does a Red Hat have to do with software other than give them a really cool logo. This discussion is indicative, much of marketing is about creating buzz. I would like a name that leads to a logo that is sexy enough for people to use as a desktop background, Redhat does and Fedora and Firefox. I was looking at the LibO abbreviation and the thing that I suddenly saw was LbD, or LBD which is abrreviation for Little Black Dress, suddenly I see a very cool logo and marketing campaign and a buzz. One great thing is that LBD is cool to both men and women, both groups tend to like the way they look. What has it to do with Office suites? About the same amount that Computer Operating systems have to do with Hats. But dang what a buzz it would cause: An office suite that was sexy, now THAT would be cool to market. Cheers GL -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Open Technologies) www.theingots.org -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
Re: [tdf-discuss] [GENERAL] New name
On Sunday 03 Oct 2010 20:55:11 Jean Hollis Weber wrote: On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 19:21 +1300, Graham Lauder wrote: Antonio, You in fact wear the best argument for a unique name in your sig. Who is arguably the most successful Open Source company: Red Hat What in gods name does a Red Hat have to do with software other than give them a really cool logo. This discussion is indicative, much of marketing is about creating buzz. I would like a name that leads to a logo that is sexy enough for people to use as a desktop background, Redhat does and Fedora and Firefox. I was looking at the LibO abbreviation and the thing that I suddenly saw was LbD, or LBD which is abrreviation for Little Black Dress, suddenly I see a very cool logo and marketing campaign and a buzz. One great thing is that LBD is cool to both men and women, both groups tend to like the way they look. What has it to do with Office suites? About the same amount that Computer Operating systems have to do with Hats. But dang what a buzz it would cause: An office suite that was sexy, now THAT would be cool to market. Cheers GL Graham, you I think alike! But I should have thought of Red Hat when I was hurling out examples. And... Hmmm a sexy office suite? I'm sure someone could manage that, without it being also sexist. Cheers, Jean Heh, As soon as I thought of it, I thought Jean is going to burn me for this! :) But then I thought Oh well No Pain No Gain. :D Cheers G -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Open Technologies) www.theingots.org -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
