[ja-discuss] Re: 春のかもめの宴会

[Takashi Nakamoto]

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Re: [ja-discuss] introduction

[NAKATA Maho]

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 I'm afraid that the Japanese project (and other native-lang projects
 as well) will continue translating their own bug reports in english...
 The problem here is that the community, that means, you, I, others,
 can't do much about that. 

It seems, currenlty not so many Japanese specific issues are raised,
just talking/complaining only at MLs. Even they don't seem to know how to
report. This is expected: Bazaar model can gather a developer who
works in a very short period of time and OOo is too big. Filling out
IssueTracker appropreately is still a problem for me :)

apparently we are suffering from bottle neck.

Development speed, method doesn't scale linearly; it does mean
if # of participants doubled, speed doesn't double, this is a big
problem for OOo. As a small example, CVS doesn't scale.
http://ooo.ximian.com/ooo-build.html

Sun Microsystems pays Collabnet, editor and maintainer of SourceCast
for the OpenOffice.org web site, mailing lists, IssueZilla, etc... 
And if Collabnet doesn't decide to localize issuezilla, we can't do
much more than wait... :-(

I talked with person from 10-art ni about Japanese handling issues, etc,
at OSC2005. Newer version of SourceCast can handle Japanese better.
He was very interested in what is the problem for Japanese people. I was
told a very good news from Collab.net but
I'm not sure I can write in public.

All the best,
-- NAKATA, Maho ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Re: [ja-discuss] introduction

[Hirano Kazunari]

Hi Maho,
CVS doesn't scale.
http://ooo.ximian.com/ooo-build.html
 

Oh, I didn't know this.
Thanks for the link.
Added me to CC:
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=24771
:)
Cheers,
khirano
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Re: [ja-discuss] 春のかもめの宴会

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Re: [ja-discuss] Re: NLP Tour by NLC Lead

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Re: [ja-discuss] introduction

[Kohei Yoshida]

Quoting NAKATA Maho [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Development speed, method doesn't scale linearly; it does mean
if # of participants doubled, speed doesn't double, this is a big
problem for OOo. As a small example, CVS doesn't scale.
http://ooo.ximian.com/ooo-build.html
I have the feeling that Sun engineers are also frustrated by this just as 
much
as we do.  They don't say that out loud, but seeing comments from Martin H in
the issue Hirano-san posted, and one of his previous blog entires give me such
impression.
But when we ask ourselves what's the alternative?, the first thing 
that comes
to my mind is Subversion.  And the interesting thing is, it is no one other
than Collab.Net who develops Subversion.  Does that mean we will see us
switching to Subversion sometime in the future?  I don't know.  But that's a
possibility.

Just some random speculation...
Kohei
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Re: [ja-discuss] introduction

[Hirano Kazunari]

Kohei Yoshida wrote:
I have the feeling that Sun engineers are also frustrated by this just 
as much
as we do.
I had the same feeling :)
Now we, community and Sun engineers, can collaborate.
Actually they are the part of the community.
Cheers,
khirano
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Re: [ja-discuss] introduction

[mAkotoOno]

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(B(Yoko Ono is really good artist, I think. I like her art.)
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(BI can write Java a little.
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(BFinally I found, I might be able to help something or somebody.
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(BThank you. But there are some problems.
(B1. My coding has not finished yet.(Now it's beta version.)
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(B   The code and documents are in Japanese.
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(BI will "go public" when I finish my program.
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Re: [ja-discuss] 春のかもめの宴会

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