Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] us election data

[Andy Anderson]

And include status information such as certifications and updates to 
certifications (e.g. such as the Georgia recount going on now).

Perhaps we can make this a team effort, as I’ve also thought about collecting 
this data.

— Andy

> On Nov 25, 2020, at 2:04 PM, Cameron Shorter  
> wrote:
> 
> Karsten,
> I suggest that if you do collect a national rollup of the data and make it 
> open, it would be a very widely used dataset.
> And if doing so, I suggest documenting how you go about it, including links 
> to sources and any post processing scripts you use for:
> 1. Others to follow you
> 2. Quote your sources
> 3. Receive feedback and corrections
> This might even be worthy of an open source project in itself.
> 
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 at 14:29, Dan Little  > wrote:
> There isn't a real "national rollup" of this data that will be readily
> available. You will need to go to each state's Secretary of State
> website and get that date. Quality and formats will vary. Minnesota's
> is quite good:
>  - 
> https://electionresults.sos.state.mn.us/Select/MediaFiles/Index?ersElectionId=136
>  
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 5:08 PM karsten  > wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > would anyone have knowledge a source they can share to openly available  
> > geodata related to the recent US election ?
> > I have already US Census administrative boundaries (such as census tracts, 
> > bloc group , blocs or counties)  and voting precinct geometries
> > now I am looking for information such as voter turnout and elections 
> > results (% or number of votes for each party)  for the geometries above
> > Any leads or hints ?
> >
> > Thanks so much
> > Karsten
> >
> > Karsten Vennemann
> >
> > Terra GIS LTD
> > www.terragis.net 
> > 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Application to accept GeoExt as a OSGeo Community Project

[Andy Anderson]

Hi, Seth,

GeoExt is a very interesting project. But it sounds like it requires ExtJS, and 
I wonder if the latter is also open source? I’m looking at this page:


https://www.sencha.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Ext-JS-Open-Source-web-v2.pdf

where they mention its use with other open-source tools and its “open source 
packaging”, but then requires a 30-day free trial.

There is a free “community” edition, but it appears that you still have to 
register for it and it has restrictive licensing:

https://www.sencha.com/products/extjs/communityedition/

In our experience it also lags behind the “premium” edition in features, though 
if it is open source it is what it is.

Does GeoExt work with the “community” edition? And do you have any more 
information about its licensing?

Thanks,

— Andy

> On Aug 5, 2019, at 8:15 AM, Seth G  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> As part of the "Getting Started" section for applying for OSGeo Community 
> Project status it is listed as a first step to make an announcement on this 
> list [1].
> 
> GeoExt is open source and enables building desktop-like GIS applications 
> through the web. It is a JavaScript framework that combines the GIS 
> functionality of OpenLayers with the user interface of the ExtJS library 
> provided by Sencha. The project home page is here [2].
> 
> Further links and details are available as part of the application on the 
> Incubator list here [3].
> 
> Any feedback and thoughts are welcome,
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Seth / GeoExt PSC
> 
> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Community_Projects#Getting_Started
> [2] https://geoext.github.io/geoext3/
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] (no subject)

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https://www.int-arch-photogramm-remote-sens-spatial-inf-sci.net/XLII-4-W8/

> On Jun 14, 2019, at 6:53 AM, Vijay Tulasingam  wrote:
> 
> Dear all
> Thank you, I would like to know where can I get FOSS4G2018 proceedings and if 
> not available online I would like to know the ISBN no.
> 
> Thanks
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Creating a single map

[Andy Anderson]

Hi, Roz,

If you are studying at a university, have you looked into whether they offer 
classes on GIS? Sometimes there is also help available through local Maptime 
chapters: http://maptime.io/chapters/

— Andy

> On Aug 3, 2018, at 12:28 PM, Roz Jones  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> I am currently research a Roman road in south-west England, linking Aquae 
> Sulis (modern day Bath) and Poole.
> 
> At the moment, the route covers about 5 Ordnance Survey Explorer maps.  But I 
> want to be able to view the route on a single map, of the same scale, 1:25 000
> 
> I have looked at GIS software, but I can't get my head around it and I have 
> enquired with the Ordnance Survey about creating one, and it would cost an 
> arm, a leg and a few organs to produce.  Would anyone please help me in 
> creating such a map.
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Roz
> 
> My website/blog: 
> http://rhjones19.wix.com/lifesapain?_ga=1.190150379.1392238553.1441730357
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [GRASS-user] Helena Mitasova awarded 2018 Waldo-Tobler GIScience Prize

[Andy Anderson]

Congratulations, Helena!!!

— Andy

> On Apr 4, 2018, at 6:11 PM, Helmut Kudrnovsky  wrote:
> 
> forwarding: 
> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/grass-user/2018-April/078052.html
> 
> -
> https://gi-science.blogspot.com/2018/04/helena-mitasova-awarded-2018-waldo.html
> 
> "The Austrian Academy of Sciences through its Commission for GIScience is
> awarding the GIScience Prize named after Prof Waldo Tobler to a scientist
> having demonstrated outstanding and sustained contributions to the
> discipline worthy of inspiring young scientists in Geoinformatics and
> Geographic Information Science, and having accomplished significant
> advances in research and education.
> 
> The received nominations were reviewed and assessed by an external panel of
> peers, who unanimously recommended to award the 2018 prize to Prof Helena
> Mitasova (North Carolina State University)."
> 
> 
> congratulations!
> 
> kind regards
> Helmut
> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: [OSGeo-Announce] OSGeo UN Committee Educational Challenge

[Andy Anderson]

Hi, Christian,

The "charter" of OSGeo is its certificate of incorporation:

https://www.osgeo.org/wp-content/uploads/osgeo_certificate.pdf

There is not actually much detail, it's minimal boilerplate for establishing a 
nonprofit corporation. There is much more information in its bylaws, including 
its "Purposes":

https://www.osgeo.org/about/bylaws/

— Andy


From: Discuss [discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] on behalf of Christian Willmes 
[c.will...@uni-koeln.de]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 4:44 AM
To: Markus Neteler
Cc: OSGeo-discuss
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: [OSGeo-Announce] OSGeo UN Committee 
Educational Challenge


Dear Markus,

thanks, I know that there is a list of Charter Members, I also know about the 
election process. My question was about "what is the OSGeo Charter". E.g. a 
document, or something intangible, I do not know? My point is, if this suddenly 
becomes a criteria for an evaluation, this needs to be well defined.

Best,
Christian


Am 03.04.2018 um 10:32 schrieb Markus Neteler:
Christian Willmes > 
schrieb am Di., 3. Apr. 2018, 10:07:

...

Also, I never saw / read the OSGeo Charter, and I am also not able to find it 
via google, may you help me with a link here?

That's unfortunately an open issue:

#2127: List of charter members not yet migrated
https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2127

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mac & QGIS: low resolution

[Andy Anderson]

My MacBook Pro is 2880 x 1800, but I run it at 3/4 of that, 2160 x 1350, which 
is not much higher than your max. I’m running QGIS 2.18.15.

But I see what you mean about the “open in low resolution” option being 
checked, I have that, too. I also see what you mean about the blockiness of the 
text — but it is being antialiased and I don’t really notice it if I don’t look 
too closely. The low-resolution mode also effects the icons, I see.

Best I can suggest is to go into QGIS > Preferences… and modify the display 
with these options:

General > Application > Font > Helvetica
General > Application > Font > Size > 14
Rendering > Rendering quality > Make lines appear less jagged at the expense of 
some performance

This issue is under discussion with respect to QGIS version 3 development:

https://github.com/qgis/homebrew-qgisdev/issues/5

In older versions it seems to be a limitation that comes with Qt version 4.

— Andy

On Feb 10, 2018, at 11:02 AM, Massimiliano Cannata 
<massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch<mailto:massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch>> wrote:

Hi Andy
Thanks for the reply.

It is a Mac Book Pro display resolution is 1440*900 by default, rising to the 
max 1920*1200 it is a bit better but still is like text has no antialias.

It seems it launch QGIS in low resolution (according to 
application->qgis->right click->obtain information QGIS is opened in low 
resolution. Unfortunately I cannot uncheck this option...


Il 10 feb 2018 15:36, "Andy Anderson" 
<aander...@amherst.edu<mailto:aander...@amherst.edu>> ha scritto:
Hi, Maxi,

I don’t have this problem on my Mac. QGIS adapts to the screen resolution in 
use, and current Macs generally have high-resolution screens. What type of Mac 
are you using, and can you look and see what the resolution is that you have it 
set to use? System Preferences > Display.

— Andy

On Feb 10, 2018, at 9:14 AM, Massimiliano Cannata 
<massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch<mailto:massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch>> wrote:



Hi all

Since I know you use Mac and QGIS I was wandering if there is a solution for 
low resolution QGIS interface on Mac.

In my Ubuntu is looking great also with 3200*1800 but in Mac is horribly 
pixelized :-)

Monday I will have course with students from visual communication bachelor so I 
already immagine the complaints for pixelized application... :-o

Thanks for any answer

Maxi

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mac & QGIS: low resolution

[Andy Anderson]

Hi, Maxi,

I don’t have this problem on my Mac. QGIS adapts to the screen resolution in 
use, and current Macs generally have high-resolution screens. What type of Mac 
are you using, and can you look and see what the resolution is that you have it 
set to use? System Preferences > Display.

— Andy

On Feb 10, 2018, at 9:14 AM, Massimiliano Cannata 
> wrote:



Hi all

Since I know you use Mac and QGIS I was wandering if there is a solution for 
low resolution QGIS interface on Mac.

In my Ubuntu is looking great also with 3200*1800 but in Mac is horribly 
pixelized :-)

Monday I will have course with students from visual communication bachelor so I 
already immagine the complaints for pixelized application... :-o

Thanks for any answer

Maxi

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Geo4All] GeoAmbassador– Professor Charlie Schweik

[Andy Anderson]

Congratulations, Charlie!

— Andy

On Dec 2, 2017, at 9:27 AM, Suchith Anand 
> wrote:

Dear colleagues,

On behalf of GeoForAll community , it is my great pleasure to honour Charles 
(Charlie) Schweik  as our GeoAmbassador. Charlie Schweik is a full professor at 
the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, USA in a joint appointment between 
the Department of Environmental Conservation and the School of Public Policy.

Charlie has an undergraduate degree in Computer Science, a Masters of Public 
Administration from Syracuse University, and a PhD in Public Policy from 
Indiana University. At UMass, since 1999 he’s offered regularly an introduction 
to Geographic Information Systems to undergraduate and graduate students in 
natural resource conservation majors, as well as to students in UMass’ Masters 
of Public Policy and Administration program. Schweik began his research career 
studying landcover change -- usually deforestation or reforestation -- using 
GIS and Landsat satellite-based remote sensing, and connecting that to the 
social science study of natural resource “commons” governance and management. 
But beginning around the year 1998, his computer science background converged 
with this interest in commons and common property regimes, when he first heard 
the phrases “Free/Libre” or “Open Source” software. Since then, much of his 
research has focused on the study of Free/Libre and Open Source Software 
(FLOSS) as a form of Internet-based collective action. In 2012, he published 
his book, Internet Success: A Study of Open Source Software Commons (MIT Press) 
[1], which included a statistical analysis of over 170,000 open source software 
projects, looking for factors that lead projects either to ongoing 
collaboration or project abandonment. One of the chapters in the book studied 
qualitatively six OSGeo projects, investigating similarities and differences in 
the way they are governed and managed. Among other things, he learned from this 
study that open source software collaboration is not about the establishment of 
large development teams, but are usually made up of smaller teams of two to 
three developers with an interest or a “user-centered need” for that software. 
He also discovered that more than half of the successful ongoing collaborations 
in his dataset gained a developer from another continent [2]. Since completing 
that work, Schweik continues to expand his interest in the potential and 
promise of global Internet-based collaboration in the development of open 
source scientific hardware and in open educational resources (OER).

Most recently, he gave a GeoForAll webinar [3] where he emphasized the untapped 
potential of the GeoForAll network in online collaboration in Free and Open 
Source for Geospatial research and education, and is actively trying to 
encourage educators and geospatial scientists at GeoForAll labs to find areas 
of mutual need and interest, to start cross-lab collaborations in 
FOSS4G-related research or educational content development. GeoForAll lab 
members with an interest in collaborating with another lab on educational 
material, make your interests known by entering a record in the OSGeo wiki 
table at https://tinyurl.com/GFA-collaborations  or contacting Charlie directly 
at cschw...@umass.edu

GeoForAll is committed to work towards the vision of the United Nations 2030 
Agenda for Sustainable Development for building a better world for everyone. 
Open Education is the simple and powerful idea that the world’s knowledge is a 
public good and that technology in general and the internet in particular 
provide an extraordinary opportunity for everyone to share, use, and reuse 
knowledge. Openness is key for true empowerment and sustainability.

We are proud to honor Charlie as our GeoAmbassador and we are extremely 
grateful for his contributions to GeoForAll.

Best wishes,

Suchith


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Search

[Andy Anderson]

The power of open!

But this is just on the Discuss page, so I should also ask … are these pages 
generated from a template that could be hacked instead to apply it to all of 
our lists?

— Andy

> On Nov 20, 2017, at 3:36 PM, Jeff McKenna <jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> On 2017-11-20 2:10 PM, Andy Anderson wrote:
>> We should consider hacking mailman to change the archives link on this page:
>>  https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>> to point here instead:
>>  https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/
>> — Andy
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> hacked ;)
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Search

[Andy Anderson]

We should consider hacking mailman to change the archives link on this page:

https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss

to point here instead:

https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/

— Andy

> On Nov 20, 2017, at 12:36 PM, Jeff McKenna  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Wirchen,
> 
> The easiest way to search the archives is through Nabble: 
> http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/
> 
> -jeff
> 
> 
> 
> On 2017-11-20 1:20 PM, Wirchen Lamas wrote:
> >
> > Please,
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> > How do I search the mailing list archives?
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Search

[Andy Anderson]

You can use Google and a site search:

site:lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/
 terms

where “terms” are your search terms.

— Andy

On Nov 20, 2017, at 12:20 PM, Wirchen Lamas 
> wrote:

Please,

How do I search the mailing list archives?

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] My feelings about board elections

[Andy Anderson]

Let me just suggest, again, that the board be elected using Ranked Choice 
Voting with Proportional Representation. This allows the different significant 
interests that are still in the minority of the membership to coalesce around 
candidates who represent those interests so that they can get a seat on the 
board and ensure a fair hearing. This is automatic, it doesn't require 
districting or quotas.

http://www.fairvote.org/fair_representation

— Andy

On Oct 31, 2017, at 2:04 AM, Vicky Vergara  wrote:

Hi all, Frank:

I have being woman all my life and also Mexican, I fall in both categories, but 
personally I want to win in a fair game, not to fill a quota, and in this case 
is two quotas!!!. I don't feel that ever in my life I won something to fill a 
quota and I don't want to start to be used to fill a quota.

Storm is over and my baby elephant is eating fresh grass that is starting to 
grow.

Being on the board or not, there is work to be done.

Regards
Vicky

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On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Frank Warmerdam 
> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Ravi Kumar
> wrote:
> Will be happy to see those who have let 'The Clouds In Motion'... and those
> 'Giving us a good harvest of GRASS'.. speak out too.

Ravi,

I am not sure, but in light of my signature perhaps 'the clouds in
motion' is a hint to me.

I don't see any need to rerun this election, nor am I particularly
concerned co-CRO who is nominated to run, etc.  Lets all give folks
the benefit of the doubt, and it isn't like the board has their
fingers on the button of nuclear weapons. :-)

Like Sanghee I am concerned that the board is less diverse than I
would have hoped by now.  I think it would be reasonable to adapt the
board selection criteria to ensure at least some diversity on axes we
want to see covered.  I could imagine a couple of special rules like:
 - If by normal voting no female would be elected, and if there is a
female running in the election the female with the most votes will
replace the otherwise lowest voted person who would have made the
board.
 - If by normal voting no two board members are selected who are
outside "north america + europe" and if there are such candidates
running then replace the otherwise lowest voted person who would have
made the board with the the candidates outside of NA+EUR with the most
votes.

Well some word smithing and algorithm clarification would be needed,
but you get the general idea, and a number of variations would be
helpful in moving us towards more diverse representation.

I would prefer to see a change in board voting rules of this nature
passed by a vote of the charter members rather than just put in place
by the board.

But most of all, I wish to encourage us all to recognise that we are
an organization of volunteers and that we have similar goals.  While
we fine tune things, I hope we try to avoid taking offense and ascribe
the best intentions to others in our community.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Costly FOSS4Gs

[Andy Anderson]

Maybe this was mentioned before, but videos are available for many 
presentations at FOSS4G 2017:

http://2017.foss4g.org/post_conference/

I believe that more are coming.

By the way, producing these videos costs a lot of money, too. They are 
beneficial to everyone, but they are paid for by attendee registrations.

— Andy

On Oct 21, 2017, at 3:35 AM, Till Adams 
> wrote:


In 2016 we also streamed the whole conference - for free.

Till

Am 18.10.2017 um 20:06 schrieb Nonie Castro:
Just a thought – this year NACIS livestreamed their entire 
conference to their members.

Maybe charging a fee to receive streams of the FOSS4G sessions would allow some 
people to attend that couldn’t otherwise afford to.
I count myself in that number.

Thank you,
Nonie




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From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Andrea Aime
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Cc: discuss
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Costly FOSS4Gs

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Bruce Bannerman 
> wrote:
When you look at the costs associated with a person attending a typical 
international FOSS4G event, the actual conference fees a small amount of the 
actual cost.

Consider airfares, transportation, accomodation, meals, lost wages etc. There 
is nothing that an LOC can do about these individual costs.

Ah hem, nothing that the LOC can do once the conference site is chosen, but 
something that OSGeo can do when assigning the location and timing.
And I believe that is happening, if I'm not wrong for the first time the LOC 
needs to provide expected cost of airfare and accommodation as part
of their proposal, which will make people consider carefully that aspect too.

Another aspect that was not cited but that I heard in conversations and believe 
is important, it's that it is really hard to compress
the cost of a large conference: the LOC needs a place that can host 1000 
people, and that can give internet to this many people,
that places forces the catering package on you (I've been told by several 
conference chairs there no way to dodge that) and the
two together make up for a large amount of the cost.

So, besides some exceptions (think FOSDEM) it seems the only way to setup a 
cheaper conference is to make a smaller
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I believe the threshold is at around 500 people, larger than that one is hung 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Candidate Manifestos: 3 questions

[Andy Anderson]

RCV = Ranked Choice Voting, sometimes called Instant-Runoff Voting (though that 
describes the vote-counting process rather than the voting itself). In the past 
it has also been known as Preferential Voting. PR = Proportional 
Representation, a process for multi-seat elections that helps distribute votes 
to minority interests.

— Andy

> On Oct 17, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Dirk Frigne <dirk.fri...@geosparc.com> wrote:
> 
> OK,
> 
> this makes it a bit more clear.
> 
> So PR is preferential?
> RCV?
> 
> Dirk :-)
> 
> On 17-10-17 16:03, Jody Garnett wrote:
>> I would be willing to give it a shot.
>> 
>> Dirk here is a comic
>> <http://chickennation.com/website_stuff/cant-waste-vote/web-700-cant-waste-vote-SINGLE-IMAGE.png>
>>  from
>> australia so it is blunt. It allows voters a way out of choosing between
>> their heart and their head.
>> 
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>> 
>> On 17 October 2017 at 06:26, Dirk Frigne <dirk.fri...@geosparc.com
>> <mailto:dirk.fri...@geosparc.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>Jeff,
>>Andy,
>> 
>>What do you mean by RCV/PR?
>> 
>>not clear for me.
>> 
>>Dirk
>> 
>>On 17-10-17 15:12, Jeff McKenna wrote:
>>> Interesting Andy, I can see how that RCV/PR/ranking could help better
>>> representation from our local chapters.  I think after the dust
>>settles
>>> on this election, we should all then take a deep breath and sit
>>back and
>>> analyze this 2017 election process, and together (as Charter members)
>>> make a proposal for future elections - I'd prefer to see this proposal
>>> happen in the next month, while it is still fresh in all of our
>>minds -
>>> Andy it would be great to have your input on this.
>>> 
>>> PS. happy to be a part of the OSGeo animal kingdom (reference to the
>>> video in Andy's link ha)
>>> 
>>> -jeff
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2017-10-17 9:47 AM, Andy Anderson wrote:
>>>> So I could make this a fourth question. What are the candidates
>>>> perspectives on using RCV/PR to increase representation from The Rest
>>>> of the World?
>>>> 
>>>> — Andy
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 11:23 PM, Andy Anderson
>><aander...@amherst.edu <mailto:aander...@amherst.edu>
>>>>> <mailto:aander...@amherst.edu <mailto:aander...@amherst.edu>>>
>>wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> We should consider using ranked-choice voting with proportional
>>>>> representation [1] instead of the current at-large system of
>>electing
>>>>> the board. It will ensure majority rule but also provide
>>>>> representation of larger minority interests.
>>>>> 
>>>>> — Andy
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1]
>>http://www.fairvote.org/fair_representation#ranked_choice_voting_pr
>><http://www.fairvote.org/fair_representation#ranked_choice_voting_pr>
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 10:50 PM, Ravi Kumar
>>>>>> <manarajahmundry2...@gmail.com
>><mailto:manarajahmundry2...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> <mailto:manarajahmundry2...@gmail.com
>><mailto:manarajahmundry2...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> "1 Board member from every continent"
>>>>>> Representation from the (rest of) World on OSGeo Board.. This was
>>>>>> discussed several times earlier..
>>>>>> The would be incumbents, may tilt and give us a solution in the
>>near
>>>>>> future..
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Ravi Kumar
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>> 
>> 
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>> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Candidate Manifestos: 3 questions

[Andy Anderson]

Hi, Dirk,

I provided this reference that I think explains it very well:

http://www.fairvote.org/fair_representation#ranked_choice_voting_pr

I didn’t want to sidetrack the more general discussion here, but I’ll give a 
schematic overview.

1) The basic idea is that voters rank some or all of the N candidates on the 
ballot from 1-N. This is a simple process with which we are all familiar, and 
allows us to express our true preferences without strategic considerations such 
as fear of spoiler candidates.

2) The vote-counting is more complicated but can be easily calculated on 
computers. All first-place votes are counted, and any candidates are elected 
that reach a threshold fraction of the vote (which depends on the number of 
seats). Any votes beyond the threshold are then transferred to voters’ second 
choices rather than being allowed to pile up for these candidates and thereby 
be “wasted”. If seats remain to be filled after this, the candidate with the 
least number of votes is dropped and their votes are transferred to their 
voters’ lower-ranked choices, and the process begins again, until all seats are 
filled.

The result in multi-candidate elections is effectively proportional 
representation because even candidates without initial majority support may 
pick up support with each round. Those candidates will reflect minority 
interests such as those of the Rest of the World (and/or others), and bring 
their perspectives to the board for discussion. Right now with our at-large 
system a majority block of voters can elect every member of the board to the 
exclusion of others.

RCV is used in many places such as Ireland and Australia, as well as in many 
cities such as Cambridge, Massachusetts (since 1941!), and in many 
organizations such as the Academy Awards.

— Andy

> On Oct 17, 2017, at 9:26 AM, Dirk Frigne <dirk.fri...@geosparc.com> wrote:
> 
> Jeff,
> Andy,
> 
> What do you mean by RCV/PR?
> 
> not clear for me.
> 
> Dirk
> 
> On 17-10-17 15:12, Jeff McKenna wrote:
>> Interesting Andy, I can see how that RCV/PR/ranking could help better
>> representation from our local chapters.  I think after the dust settles
>> on this election, we should all then take a deep breath and sit back and
>> analyze this 2017 election process, and together (as Charter members)
>> make a proposal for future elections - I'd prefer to see this proposal
>> happen in the next month, while it is still fresh in all of our minds -
>> Andy it would be great to have your input on this.
>> 
>> PS. happy to be a part of the OSGeo animal kingdom (reference to the
>> video in Andy's link ha)
>> 
>> -jeff
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2017-10-17 9:47 AM, Andy Anderson wrote:
>>> So I could make this a fourth question. What are the candidates
>>> perspectives on using RCV/PR to increase representation from The Rest
>>> of the World?
>>> 
>>> — Andy
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 11:23 PM, Andy Anderson <aander...@amherst.edu
>>>> <mailto:aander...@amherst.edu>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> We should consider using ranked-choice voting with proportional
>>>> representation [1] instead of the current at-large system of electing
>>>> the board. It will ensure majority rule but also provide
>>>> representation of larger minority interests.
>>>> 
>>>> — Andy
>>>> 
>>>> [1] http://www.fairvote.org/fair_representation#ranked_choice_voting_pr
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 10:50 PM, Ravi Kumar
>>>>> <manarajahmundry2...@gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:manarajahmundry2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> "1 Board member from every continent"
>>>>> Representation from the (rest of) World on OSGeo Board.. This was
>>>>> discussed several times earlier..
>>>>> The would be incumbents, may tilt and give us a solution in the near
>>>>> future..
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Ravi Kumar
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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> 
> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Candidate Manifestos: 3 questions

[Andy Anderson]

So I could make this a fourth question. What are the candidates perspectives on 
using RCV/PR to increase representation from The Rest of the World?

— Andy

On Oct 16, 2017, at 11:23 PM, Andy Anderson 
<aander...@amherst.edu<mailto:aander...@amherst.edu>> wrote:

We should consider using ranked-choice voting with proportional representation 
[1] instead of the current at-large system of electing the board. It will 
ensure majority rule but also provide representation of larger minority 
interests.

— Andy

[1] http://www.fairvote.org/fair_representation#ranked_choice_voting_pr

On Oct 16, 2017, at 10:50 PM, Ravi Kumar 
<manarajahmundry2...@gmail.com<mailto:manarajahmundry2...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,
"1 Board member from every continent"
Representation from the (rest of) World on OSGeo Board.. This was discussed 
several times earlier..
The would be incumbents, may tilt and give us a solution in the near future..
Cheers
Ravi Kumar

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Candidate Manifestos: 3 questions

[Andy Anderson]

We should consider using ranked-choice voting with proportional representation 
[1] instead of the current at-large system of electing the board. It will 
ensure majority rule but also provide representation of larger minority 
interests.

— Andy

[1] http://www.fairvote.org/fair_representation#ranked_choice_voting_pr

On Oct 16, 2017, at 10:50 PM, Ravi Kumar 
> wrote:

Hi,
"1 Board member from every continent"
Representation from the (rest of) World on OSGeo Board.. This was discussed 
several times earlier..
The would be incumbents, may tilt and give us a solution in the near future..
Cheers
Ravi Kumar

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 9:30 PM, Gert-Jan van der Weijden - Stichting 
OSGeo.nl > wrote:
Hi Board member candidates (and fellow voter members),


Thanks to Helena, Astrid, Jody and Sanghee for adding their Manifestos [1].
Really much appreciated, and at least now we have 6 known candidates to cast 
our 5 votes to!
I hope that Dirk, Venga and Jeff will take the opportunity to add their 
manifestos as well before the end of this campaign week.

After reading them, I have 3 questions:
= One to Sanghee:
I really like your personal review of the last 2 years as a Board member. Not 
just fun parts, but also some harder times.
Could you please elaborate on the "Sometimes I saw the 'Desire to the 
Innocence' from the community"? I simply don't quite understand what you mean 
by this.

= One to Astrid:
Almost all of your objectives seem outreach-related (PR, OSGeo Live etc.)
What  are the advantages of doing so as a Board member, instead of (or in 
addition to) begin a member of the recently revived Marketing Committee

= And one to all of you:
Some of you talk about being an inclusive organization.
For the geographical and probably cultural aspect of inclusiveness, do you 
think the Board should have it's roots in as much continents / languages as 
possible, so preferably 1 Board member from every continent (not counting for 
Antarctica, ha!)


Wishing you all the best and success in your campaigns,


Gert-Jan



[1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2017_Candidate_Manifestos


Van: Discuss 
[mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org]
 Namens Sanghee Shin
Verzonden: donderdag 12 oktober 2017 10:14
Aan: OSGeo Discussions
Onderwerp: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Candidate Manifestos: Sanghee Shin

Dear All,

I’ve posted my manifestos here: 
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2017_Candidate_Manifestos#Sanghee_Shin

Thanks for the nomination.

Kind regards,
신상희
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Gaia3D, Inc. - The GeoSpatial Company
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Rewording the diversity argument

[Andy Anderson]

+1

And actively seeking out and inviting the under-represented to participate.

— Andy

> On Oct 13, 2017, at 3:23 AM, María Arias de Reyna  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Also, I think that being just welcoming and open on a pasive way is not 
> enough, which is how OSGeo has behave until now (or at least from my point of 
> view). That's the classic argument when men are asked about the lack of women 
> in tech. "We don't forbid them to come. If they would be interested, they 
> would be here. We will be happy if they join." And that's not how it works. 
> In my opinion, we have to be actively welcoming and inclusive at all times. 
> The slippery moment we forget, we are making people move away.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Rewording the diversity argument

[Andy Anderson]

+1

On Oct 13, 2017, at 3:01 AM, Marc Vloemans 
> wrote:

Dear all,

Please notice that the concept of diversity is not about equal numbers/quota's. 
That has and will backfire as it misses the point and easily degrades 
individual achievements.

It is essentially about 'inclusiveness'!

I am trying to be sensitive to the European way of approaching the matter 
versus the American way. 'Diversity' as a term carries different 
connotations/values/interpretations for different cultures.
Therefore I rather talk about 'inclusiveness' as everyone has felt left out at 
least once. So is able to relate to how that feels.

Are we inviting and welcoming everyone that adds value in some way or is 
genuinely interested in OSGeo?
Do we truly have the 'open' culture we pride ourselves on (e.g. past email 
treads attacking individuals could suggest differently)?
Please, lets work on that, keep each other sharp and avoid window dressing.

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


Op 13 okt. 2017 om 08:23 heeft María Arias de Reyna 
> het volgende 
geschreven:

Hi Ger-Jan (and all),

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 6:00 PM, Gert-Jan van der Weijden - Stichting 
OSGeo.nl > wrote:
Hi Board member candidates (and fellow voter members),
= And one to all of you:
Some of you talk about being an inclusive organization.
For the geographical and probably cultural aspect of inclusiveness, do you 
think the Board should have it's roots in as much continents / languages as 
possible, so preferably 1 Board member from every continent (not counting for 
Antarctica, ha!)


I am no friend of quotas. At least everytime I have been offered things just 
because I was a woman and they needed a female because [reason not related to 
my real value] it made me feel really bad. Why would I want to be somewhere (a 
board or whatever) where everyone knows I am there not because I deserve it but 
because something I didn't even choose? If I accepted, no one was going to hear 
my voice, I would have been unable to do anything for real. No, thanks.

Said this, on an ideal world probably we would have in average one person for 
each continent or language or culture or ethnicity or gender or whatever 
criteria you want to split people into.

Would we achieve this by forcing quotas? We could but, I rather prefer to get 
more diverse people engage and enthusiast with OSGeo so in the end they will 
become natural leaders. Making an effort to help diverse people more 
comfortable in OSGeo and encourage them to participate more? Yes. Giving 
visibility to diverse people that are doing great things inside OSGeo? Sure. 
Making an effort to put someone in some position just because we have to fill a 
quota? No, thanks.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Charter Member Nomination: Tina Cormier

[Andy Anderson]

I second the nomination!

— Andy

> On Sep 7, 2017, at 6:53 AM, Jeff McKenna  
> wrote:
> 
> Forwarding Tina Cormier nomination by Alex Mandel. The 2017 member 
> nominations list was updated [1].
> 
> Best regards,
> Vasile & Jeff
> 2017 OSGeo Elections CROs
> 
> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2017
> 
> 
>  Forwarded Message 
> 
> I would like to nominate Tina Cormier for OSGeo Charter Membership.
> 
> Tina was a star of FOSS4G2017 in Boston, presenting a workshop (‘Geo
> with R? Yes We Can!’) and three talks (‘A Journey through R for Geo’, ‘R
> in the Z-dimension: Processing lidar data for free’, and ‘Two laptops
> and a bag of thumb drives: Knitting together a global community using
> FOSS4G’)
> 
> She has taught workshops in countries all over the world, from Peru to
> Nepal, as well as her home country the USA. Workshop topics range from
> programming in R, using QGIS, to processing lidar with open source tools.
> 
> Tina promotes open source actively on Twitter and is now working with
> OSGeo-Live project on R quickstarts, and lidR package on improving user
> friendliness.
> 
> Tina would be an asset to OSGeo as a remote sensing data scientist who
> works in academic research and industry, and helps represent women, R,
> LIDAR, and power user communities.
> 
> -Alex Mandel
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Charter Member Nomination: Michele Tobias

[Andy Anderson]

+1

— Andy

On Sep 5, 2017, at 9:20 PM, Sara Safavi 
> wrote:

+1 from me -- I actually didn't realize Michele wasn't already a charter member!

On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 6:07 PM, Alex M 
> wrote:
I second the nomination.

-Alex Mandel

On 09/05/2017 03:45 PM, Jeff McKenna wrote:
> Forwarding Michele Tobias nomination by Kristin Bott. The 2017 member
> nominations list has been updated [1].
>
> Best regards,
> Vasile & Jeff
> 2017 OSGeo Elections CROs
>
> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2017
>
>
>  Forwarded Message 
>
> Nominee: Michele Tobias, USA
> Nominator: Kristin Bott, USA; Charter Member 2014 / FOSS4G LOC 2014 /
> Code of Conduct Committee chair 2015-present
>
> I am writing to nominate Michele Tobias for OSGeo Charter Membership.
> Michele is active in the development of FOSS4G software and open data
> projects, as the lead programmer on the Literature Mapper plugin for
> QGIS, the Data Curation Lead for the UC Davis Library’s American
> Viticulture Area boundary data creation project, and an active
> contributor to OpenDroneMap. She was a founding member of the OSGeo
> California chapter and is currently a *re*founding member of the QGIS US
> users group (in collaboration with Randall Hale and Kurt Menke).
>
> Michele brings experience in many open source tools; in GIS (QGIS,
> GRASS, SAGA GIS), and a number of programming languages (R, Python,
> HTML, Leaflet), and database systems (SQLite, PostGRES, PostGIS,
> SpatiaLite), as well as cartography and graphic design (Inkscape),
> Photogrammetry & Aerial Photograph Interpretation, and Kite Aerial
> Photography.
>
> A regular presenter and/or workshop leader at FOSS4G (2017, 2014, 2011)
> and FOSS4G-NA (2016, 2015) conferences, Michele also is active within
> the OSGeo California chapter, serving on the organizing committee for
> their annual meetings (2015, 2013, 2011) as well as presenting at same
> (2016, 2011). Michele also takes her open source geospatial work outside
> of OSGeo venues, leading workshops at local (UC Davis Library, Davis R
> User Group) and statewide (California GIS Conference 2015 + 2014; GIS
> Day 2014) venues.
>
> Finally, the call for Charter Members "strive[s] to promote diversity".
> While the above qualifications are completely compelling in their own
> right, Michele is a woman working in education, research, and science --
> not OSGeo's predominant demographic. Additionally, Michele is interested
> in improving the diversity of both OSGeo membership and conference
> attendance; by including her as a Charter Member, OSGeo gains the
> further commitment of someone who is both technically very strong and
> also committed to building a community that is more accessible to all.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Charter Member nomination: Aleda Freeman

[Andy Anderson]

I second the nomination!

— Andy

> On Sep 5, 2017, at 12:56 PM, Jeff McKenna  
> wrote:
> 
> Forwarding Aleda Freeman nomination by Sara Safavi. The 2017 member 
> nominations list has been updated [1].
> 
> Best regards,
> Vasile & Jeff
> 2017 OSGeo Elections CROs
> 
> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2017
> 
> 
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject:  Charter Member nomination: Aleda Freeman
> Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 13:10:49 -0500
> From: Sara Safavi 
> To:   Vasile Craciunescu , OSGeo Chief Returning 
> Officer 
> 
> 
> 
> Nominee: Aleda Freeman, aleda.free...@mass.gov 
>  - USA
> 
> I would like to nominate Aleda Freeman for OSGeo Charter Membership. In 
> addition to being a member of FOSS4G 2017's spectacular local organizing 
> committee, Aleda has been an active member of the MA/Boston GIS community for 
> over 20 years. As Web Services Manager at MassGIS Aleda was instrumental in 
> making the agency's pivot from ESRI to GeoServer over a decade ago (and on a 
> personal note, MassGIS's web portal was my first encounter with FOSS4G in use 
> "in the wild", which had a significant impact on my younger self). Aleda is a 
> devoted proponent of open source geo who puts a ton of effort & time into the 
> community.
> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Need official info about OSGeo best presentation awards at FOSS4G-2017

[Andy Anderson]

Hi, Venka,

There has been no “official” announcement, which one might expect would be 
hanging off http://2017.foss4g.org.

I did tweet an announcement:

https://twitter.com/GeoObservatory/status/899278134540947456

I suppose a blog post with a bit more detail might be appropriate, though. I’ll 
talk with Charlie about writing one.

— Andy

> On Sep 4, 2017, at 6:45 AM, Venkatesh Raghavan 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> Can anyone point me to the *official* announcement for
> the OSGeo best oral and poster (student?) presentation awards at
> FOSS4G-Boston 2017.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Best
> Venka
> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Charter member nomination: Michael Terner

[Andy Anderson]

MT has put his background here:

https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Michael_Terner

— Andy

> On Sep 3, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Andy Anderson <aander...@amherst.edu> wrote:
> 
> I second the nomination!
> 
> — Andy
> 
>> On Sep 3, 2017, at 1:19 PM, Vasile Craciunescu <vas...@geo-spatial.org> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> We confirm that Michael Terner accepted the nomination by Sara Safavi and 
>> Regina Obe. The 2017 member nominations list will be updated ASAP [1].
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Vasile & Jeff
>> 2017 OSGeo Elections CROs
>> 
>> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2017
>> 
>> 
>>  Forwarded Message 
>> Subject: Charter member nomination: Michael Terner
>> Date:Thu, 24 Aug 2017 14:33:35 -0500
>> From:Sara Safavi <s...@sarasafavi.com>
>> To:  OSGeo Chief Returning Officer <c...@osgeo.org>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Nominee: Michael Terner, m...@appgeo.com <mailto:m...@appgeo.com>
>> 
>> I would like to nominate Michael Terner for OSGeo Charter Membership. I 
>> imagine I will not be the only person nominating Michael this year, but I 
>> would be remiss if I did not. Michael, of course, co-chaired FOSS4G 2017, 
>> and his leadership was an integral part of the event's massive success. 
>> Having known Mike for many years, I can speak personally to his passion for 
>> and dedication to growing the open source geospatial community.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/25/17 5:29 AM, Regina Obe wrote:
>>> Name: Michael Ternier
>>> 
>>> I would like to nominate Michael Ternier for OSGeo Charter Membership.
>>> Michael has been a strong supporter of OSGeo projects for a number of years.
>>> The company, AppGeo, which he co-founded has been using FOSS4G tools for a
>>> number of years  and have been sponsors of several OSGeo events. He's given
>>> talks on building your product around FOSS4G software.
>>> 
>>> Just recently he was the Co-Chair of FOSS4G 2017 where he did much of the
>>> legwork of putting out the proposal, doing the budget, garnering funding
>>> from many sponsors (I think FOSS4G2017 hit a record on sponsorship), and
>>> also making everything come together.
>>> 
>>> He has something special that we are short on in OSGeo, and that is the
>>> ability to bring the conversation of FOSS4G to the business decision makers
>>> and how it can streamline their business processes.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Regina
>>> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Charter member nomination: Michael Terner

[Andy Anderson]

I second the nomination!

— Andy

> On Sep 3, 2017, at 1:19 PM, Vasile Craciunescu  wrote:
> 
> We confirm that Michael Terner accepted the nomination by Sara Safavi and 
> Regina Obe. The 2017 member nominations list will be updated ASAP [1].
> 
> Best regards,
> Vasile & Jeff
> 2017 OSGeo Elections CROs
> 
> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2017
> 
> 
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject:  Charter member nomination: Michael Terner
> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 14:33:35 -0500
> From: Sara Safavi 
> To:   OSGeo Chief Returning Officer 
> 
> 
> 
> Nominee: Michael Terner, m...@appgeo.com 
> 
> I would like to nominate Michael Terner for OSGeo Charter Membership. I 
> imagine I will not be the only person nominating Michael this year, but I 
> would be remiss if I did not. Michael, of course, co-chaired FOSS4G 2017, and 
> his leadership was an integral part of the event's massive success. Having 
> known Mike for many years, I can speak personally to his passion for and 
> dedication to growing the open source geospatial community.
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/25/17 5:29 AM, Regina Obe wrote:
> > Name: Michael Ternier
> >
> > I would like to nominate Michael Ternier for OSGeo Charter Membership.
> > Michael has been a strong supporter of OSGeo projects for a number of years.
> > The company, AppGeo, which he co-founded has been using FOSS4G tools for a
> > number of years  and have been sponsors of several OSGeo events. He's given
> > talks on building your product around FOSS4G software.
> >
> > Just recently he was the Co-Chair of FOSS4G 2017 where he did much of the
> > legwork of putting out the proposal, doing the budget, garnering funding
> > from many sponsors (I think FOSS4G2017 hit a record on sponsorship), and
> > also making everything come together.
> >
> > He has something special that we are short on in OSGeo, and that is the
> > ability to bring the conversation of FOSS4G to the business decision makers
> > and how it can streamline their business processes.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Regina
> >
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Charter member nomination: Gretchen Peterson

[Andy Anderson]

+1!!

— Andy

On Aug 30, 2017, at 8:10 PM, Jody Garnett 
> wrote:

I would like to second the nomination.

--
Jody Garnett

On 30 August 2017 at 16:24, Vasile Craciunescu 
> wrote:
Forwarding Gretchen Peterson nomination by Sara Safavi. The 2017 member 
nominations list will be updated ASAP [1].

Best regards,
Vasile & Jeff
2017 OSGeo Elections CROs

[1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2017


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Subject:Charter member nomination: Gretchen Peterson
Date:   Thu, 24 Aug 2017 14:21:24 -0500
From:   Sara Safavi >
To: OSGeo Chief Returning Officer >



Nominee: Gretchen Peterson, 
gretc...@petersongis.com 
>

I would like to nominate Gretchen Peterson for OSGeo Charter Membership. 
Gretchen is a cartographer, author, and educator whose contributions to the 
community have impacted many of us - speaking personally, I can say that 
everything I know about designing good maps in QGIS, I learned from Gretchen. 
Most recently, Gretchen is co-author of the book "QGIS Map Design".
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Nomination of Msilikale Msilanga as OSGeo Charter Member

[Andy Anderson]

Again, I second the nomination!

— Andy

On Aug 28, 2017, at 11:03 PM, Vasile Craciunescu 
> wrote:

We confirm that Msilikale Msilanga accepted the nomination by Maria Antonia 
Brovelli. The 2017 member nominations list will be updated ASAP [1].

Best regards,
Vasile & Jeff
2017 OSGeo Elections CROs

[1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2017

On 8/26/17 11:36 PM, Polimi wrote:
I'm honored of nominating Msilikale  Msilanga as OSGeo Charter Member.
He is consulting the World Bank on Transportation and ICT by collecting in 
Tanzania geospatial information on transportation,  education, and public 
facilities and by training the government on Open Data. He has a huge 
experience in community based projects (using FOSS) for flooding resilience in 
informal settlements.
He has been working with the local community since 2011 helping them to 
understand how to use the mapping equipment for collaborative projects.
After the experience in Tanzania, he also helped the creation of the first 
community mapping in Mozambique.
Moreover, Msilikale is one of the two chairs of FOSS4G 2018 in Dar Er Salaam. I 
believe that his experience on collaborative mapping is fundamental for our 
OSGeo Community.
Many thanks and best regards,
Maria
Pay attention to this Special Issue and see if it is of interest by you:
http://www.mdpi.com/journal/ijgi/special_issues/Geospatial_Big_Data_Urban_Studies
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*Prof. Maria Antonia Brovelli*
Professor of GIS and Remote Sensing
Politecnico di Milano
ISPRS WG IV/4"Collaborative crowdsourced cloud mapping (C3M)" 
http://www2.isprs.org/commissions/comm4/wg4.html, Board of Directors of OSGeo; 
GeoForAll Advisory Board; NASA WorldWind Europa Challenge; SIFET Advisory Board
UN-GGIM Italy, UN-GGIM Academic Network Task Team, UN OpenGIS Initiative (Chair 
of the Capacity Building WG)
*Sol Katz Award 2015*
P.zza Leonardo da Vinci, 32 - Building 3 - 20133 Milano (Italy)
Tel. +39-02-23996242 - Mob. +39-328-0023867, 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Nomination of Msilikale Msilanga as OSGeo Charter Member

[Andy Anderson]

I second the nomination.

— Andy

On Aug 26, 2017, at 4:36 PM, Polimi 
> wrote:

I'm honored of nominating Msilikale  Msilanga as OSGeo Charter Member.
He is consulting the World Bank on Transportation and ICT by collecting in 
Tanzania geospatial information on transportation,  education, and public 
facilities and by training the government on Open Data. He has a huge 
experience in community based projects (using FOSS) for flooding resilience in 
informal settlements.
He has been working with the local community since 2011 helping them to 
understand how to use the mapping equipment for collaborative projects.
After the experience in Tanzania, he also helped the creation of the first 
community mapping in Mozambique.
Moreover, Msilikale is one of the two chairs of FOSS4G 2018 in Dar Er Salaam. I 
believe that his experience on collaborative mapping is fundamental for our 
OSGeo Community.
Many thanks and best regards,
Maria

Pay attention to this Special Issue and see if it is of interest by you:
http://www.mdpi.com/journal/ijgi/special_issues/Geospatial_Big_Data_Urban_Studies






Prof. Maria Antonia Brovelli
Professor of GIS and Remote Sensing
Politecnico di Milano

ISPRS WG IV/4"Collaborative crowdsourced cloud mapping (C3M)" 
http://www2.isprs.org/commissions/comm4/wg4.html, Board of Directors of OSGeo; 
GeoForAll Advisory Board; NASA WorldWind Europa Challenge; SIFET Advisory Board

UN-GGIM Italy, UN-GGIM Academic Network Task Team, UN OpenGIS Initiative (Chair 
of the Capacity Building WG)

Sol Katz Award 2015

P.zza Leonardo da Vinci, 32 - Building 3 - 20133 Milano (Italy)
Tel. +39-02-23996242 - Mob. +39-328-0023867,  
maria.brove...@polimi.it

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Nomination of Mark Iliffe as OSGeo Charter Member

[Andy Anderson]

I second the nomination.

— Andy

On Aug 26, 2017, at 4:09 PM, Polimi 
> wrote:

I want to nominate Mark Iliffe as charter member of OSGeo.

Mark has a lot of experience both as researcher and as a consultant of 
important organizations, like World Bank.
His main activities have been in coordinating mapping in developing countries 
examining the emergent phenomenon of community mapping and volunteered.

Das Ramani Huria, one of the project which has been seeing him involved as a 
main actor, is considered as a best practice for developing (and probably could 
also be for developed) countries.

He is also invited delegate to the United Nations Committee of Experts on 
Global Geospatial Information Management (UN GGIM) as an expert on Volunteered 
Geographic Information and geography in emerging countries.

He organised the 2013 FOSS4G Conference as a member of the local organising 
committee and is one of the two chairs of FOSS4G 2018 in Dar Es Salaam.

OSGEO will greatly benefit of the presence of Mark in our community.
Thanks and best regards,
Maria

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Professor of GIS and Remote Sensing
Politecnico di Milano

ISPRS WG IV/4"Collaborative crowdsourced cloud mapping (C3M)" 
http://www2.isprs.org/commissions/comm4/wg4.html, Board of Directors of OSGeo; 
GeoForAll Advisory Board; NASA WorldWind Europa Challenge; SIFET Advisory Board

UN-GGIM Italy, UN-GGIM Academic Network Task Team, UN OpenGIS Initiative (Chair 
of the Capacity Building WG)

Sol Katz Award 2015

P.zza Leonardo da Vinci, 32 - Building 3 - 20133 Milano (Italy)
Tel. +39-02-23996242 - Mob. +39-328-0023867,  
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] R: Nomination of Rafael Moreno-Sanchez as an OSGeo Charter Member

[Andy Anderson]

+1

— Andy

On Aug 26, 2017, at 1:16 PM, Maria Antonia Brovelli 
> wrote:

I warmly second this nomination!
Maria



Inviato dal mio dispositivo Samsung


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Da: Suchith Anand 
>
Data: 26/08/17 10:02 (GMT+01:00)
A: c...@osgeo.org, 
rafael.mor...@ucdenver.edu, 
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Oggetto: [OSGeo-Discuss] Nomination of Rafael Moreno-Sanchez as an OSGeo 
Charter Member

It is my pleasure to nominate Dr. Rafael Moreno-Sanchez, from USA, as an OSGeo 
Charter Member.  Rafael  is working at the Department of Geography and 
Environmental Sciences at the University of Colorado Denver, USA [1].


Rafael is also very active contributor in the OSGeo’s GeoForAll initiative . 
Rafael Moreno led the effort to establish the FOSS4G lab which opened in 2014 
in the Department of Geography and Environmental Sciences at the University of 
Colorado , USA  to fulfill a growing demand for education, research and service 
in Free and Open Source Software for Geospatial applications (FOSS4G) 
development and applications by citizens, businesses, governments, educators, 
students, researchers and geospatial working professionals in the Front Range 
of Colorado and beyond at University of Colorado Denver and constantly 
assisting educators and students.

Rafael also initiated and leads the GeoForAll's "Open Geospatial Science & 
Applications" webinar series [2].  These webinars (and recordings) are viewed 
by hundreds of people around the world and helped us to spread the ideas and 
philosophy of Openness in GeoEducation and Research. We are very grateful for 
his contributions and help.

Thank you Rafael for accepting my request for nomination and  for your 
contributions to our community.

Best wishes,

Suchith

[1] 
http://opensourcegeospatial.icaci.org/2017/02/geoambassador-dr-rafael-moreno-sanchez/

[2] http://www.geoforall.org/webinars/


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Nomination of Patrick Hogan as an OSGeo Charter Member

[Andy Anderson]

+1

On Aug 26, 2017, at 4:59 AM, Margherita Di Leo 
> wrote:

I warmly second Patrick's nomination!

Il giorno sab 26 ago 2017 alle 10:30 Suchith Anand 
> ha 
scritto:
It is my pleasure to nominate Patrick Hogan (USA)  as an OSGeo Charter Member.  
Patrick Hogan [1]  works for NASA, USA.

Patrick is also very active contributor  in the OSGeo’s Geo For All initiative  
. He along with Chris Pettit  leads the OpenCitySmart thematic [2] of GeoForAll 
. This initiative helped us bring together key colleagues and students from 
around the world to work on innovative ideas and solutions specific to urban 
management for the benefit of all.

We are especially grateful for Patrick’s efforts (in coordination with Maria 
Brovelli) in creating the NASA Europa Challenge initiative [3] which adds great 
momentum to our efforts to promote openness in education and research 
worldwide. We are very grateful for his contributions and help.

Thank you Patrick for accepting my request for nomination and  for your 
contributions to our community.

Best wishes,

Suchith

[1] http://opensourcegeospatial.icaci.org/2017/06/geoambassodor-patrick-hogan/

[2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Opencitysmart

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Charter Member nomination for Guido Stein

[Andy Anderson]

I did not realize Guido was not already a charter member! I heartily second the 
nomination!

I'll add that Guido has been advocating for FLOSS4G for many years, through 
organizing presentations for the AvidGeo group he started in Boston, along with 
workshops he has led on using PostGIS, etc.

— Andy

On Aug 24, 2017, at 6:15 PM, Michael Smith 
> wrote:

I would like to nominate Guido Stein for OSGeo Charter membership.
As most people should know, Guido was co-chair of the Boston LOC for 2017. And, 
as was expected, he did an amazing job. The conference was a complete success 
and Guido's touches were everywhere, with the detail and effort that he puts 
into things. He is currently working efforts to establish a US local chapter of 
OSGeo. He is a valuable member of the community and he should be recognized as 
a charter member.


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Richard Stallman's keynote at FOSS4G-Boston today

[Andy Anderson]

Hi, Venka,

I’ll be talking with him, I’ll remind him!

— Andy

> On Aug 17, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Venkatesh Raghavan 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> I am sure that all those of you who are attending FOSS4G-Boston are
> having a great time.
> 
> Ricchard Stallman 's keynote is scheduled for today. If someone
> has the opportunity, please remind Stallman that it was the chance
> meeting with me on the flight from Hanoi-Bangkok in  2004
> that marked the beginning of FOSSS4G. We have come a long
> way since then.
> 
> He wrote a motivating message [1] for FOSS4G-2004 held in Bangkok, Thailand.
> Had he not insisted (and made me realize the importance) in adding "Free"
> when he agreed to write his message, our conference would perhaps
> taken some other name.
> 
> Best
> 
> Venka
> 
> [1] http://gisws.media.osaka-cu.ac.jp/grass04/message.html
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Discussing and building the FOSS4G Handbook on the OSGeo Conference email list

[Andy Anderson]

Cameron is actually referring to this OSGeo list:

http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev

— Andy

On Sep 8, 2016, at 4:47 PM, Cameron Shorter  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> We will be discussing FOSS4G guidelines quite intensely over next 2 weeks 
> prior to the next FOSS4G RFQ going out. If you wish to be part of the 
> conversation, of wish to volunteer to help write the FOSS4G Handbook, please 
> join the conversation on the Conference email list.
> 
> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference
> 
> 
> On 9/09/2016 12:28 AM, Steven Feldman wrote:
>> I can’t join an irc today (or most of next week) - have to leave discussion 
>> to others or follow on this list - we need to make some decisions within 
>> next 2 weeks if we are going to get the RfP out before end September.
>> 
>> At worst we can leave some of these topics as unclear or undecided as 
>> previous years and perhaps consider between LoI and Proposal stages?
>> __
>> Steven
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8 Sep 2016, at 13:03, Cameron Shorter  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Steven,
>>> 
>>> That is quite a long list of controversial questions. How much time do we 
>>> have to decide before they are consolidated into the RFP?
>>> 
>>> I'll be on irc://freenode.net#osgeo in ~ 8 hours for ~ 30 mins happy to 
>>> start talking about these how we answer these issues:
>>> 
>>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?hour=20=0=0=179=189=224=22=240=196=215
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8/09/2016 9:12 PM, Steven Feldman wrote:
 And one more thing!
 
 8) There is an ongoing theme in several threads about 
 inclusiveness/accessibility which tends to focus on the cost of the 
 conference. We know that travel accommodation and subsistence are a much 
 greater cost than the delegate fees for many people from outside of the 
 region where the conference is being held. At Boston I would guess the 
 cost will be double the delegate fee (i.e. delegate fee will be ca 35% of 
 total cost for a non US attendee).
 
 Should we  make live video streaming and archiving a mandatory/highly 
 desired requirement? This would enable much greater reach to those who 
 can’t afford to come to the event than a travel grants program. Perhaps we 
 could enhance with use of twitter to enable remote viewers of the stream 
 to ask questions via the session chair?
 __
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> On 8 Sep 2016, at 12:03, Steven Feldman  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Cameron for offer of help. If you and Till are happy to edit 
> current wiki page that’s fine with me, I’m probably less fluent in using 
> history etc so happy to be guided by you.
> 
> Issues/topics that I think we need to consider in time for the 2018 RfP:
> 
> 1) Overall financial expectations re surplus and sharing of surplus with 
> OSGeo - possibly setting slightly different expectations for RoW to NA & 
> EU
> 2) Extent of OSGeo seed finance and guarantee (these are potentially 
> different) and connection to 1) above
> 3) Guidelines on ticket pricing (or extent that we leave that to LOC’s 
> proposing)
> 4) Guidelines, if any, on the provision of concessionary rates for 
> certain categories of delegate (e.g. workshop presenters, students, 
> academics, those from lower income countries …). I would suggest that LOC 
> needs to incorporate any concessions that it wishes to offer into its 
> financial model and not expect any great or funding from OSGeo
> 5) Clarity on ‘travel grant programme’ IMO should be considered same as 
> 4) above
> 6) Inclusion of Student Awards - IMO should be organised by Geo4All not 
> LOC, funding should come from Geo4All (possibly as part of OSGeo budget 
> process) not part of event budget.
> 7) A big question for me: “To what extent do we wish to mandate that the 
> basic elements of a FOSS4G remain unchanged? e.g. Codesprint, Workshops, 
> Keynotes, Streams of presentations, Academic Track, Gala Night"
> 
> All of the above needs to be included in the RfP so that bidders have 
> clarity on expectations. I think the Cookbook needs to be both a resource 
> for people running a FOSS4G and a useful more detailed reference (almost 
> an appendix) to the RfP docs for bidders to make use of.
> 
> Can anyone think of other stuff that we need to discuss and vote on 
> before finalising the RfP and updating the Cookbook?
> __
> Steven
> 
> 
>> On 7 Sep 2016, at 21:41, Cameron Shorter  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Till, Stephen,
>> 
>> I'm offering to help too.
>> 
>> Stephen, are there any foss4g rfp topics which you would like to see 
>> prioritised and addressed first?
>> 
>> Budget expectations sounds like one, and it sounds like we have 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo sponsors ?

[Andy Anderson]

Of course [1] is one reason why Stallman implemented the copyleft requirement:

http://opensource.org/faq#copyleft

— Andy

On Oct 14, 2015, at 10:20 AM, Barry Rowlingson  
wrote:

> As long as they obey the license terms, I don't think OSGeo should
> worry about taking money from PropGeo Corp. OSGeo does not suffer from
> Stallmania, an uncontrollable urge to insist all software should be
> free.
> 
> Barry
> 
> [1] and some (no names) by releasing code that needs their proprietary
> code to work anyway, we call this "open-washing"...
> http://opensource.com/business/14/12/openwashing-more-prevalent

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Branding FOSS4G

[Andy Anderson]

Slightly different topic: brand names are usually protected by trademark; I 
don’t see that FOSS4G is in the US trademark system:

http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss=4801:p4nq75.1.1

Should it be? Could it be, or is there already too much non-OSGeo use? For that 
matter, I don’t see OSGeo there, either.

If brands aren’t protected, they could be used / co-opted by other 
organizations / corporations.

— Andy

On Oct 13, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Dirk Frigne  wrote:

> +1
> 
> OSGeo is The organisation to support the collaborative development of
> open source geospatial software, and promote its widespread use. [1]
> 
> To promote its widespread use OSGeo started, amongst other things, to
> organise a yearly conference. Today, there is the global conference, and
> a lot of local conferences, almost every month, somewhere in the world.
> 
> FOSS4G is the name of The OSGeo Conference.
> FOSS4G is an *important* brand of OSGeo.
> Local conferences have derived names like FOSS4G Europe, FOSS4G North
> America, FOSS4G.be, FOSSGIS ...
> 
> My 2c
> 
> [1] http://www.osgeo.org/about

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

[Andy Anderson]

Acronyms don’t usually include prepositions, at least in English. Including 2 
and 4 is definitely computerese, something that helps separate words that can’t 
have spaces between them as in command-line Unix, e.g. shp2kml. But I don’t see 
a need for it here, especially if we want to reach out to nontechnical groups.

No matter what the acronym won’t translate into other languages.

SLFAG, anyone?

— Andy

On Oct 6, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Dan Ames 
> wrote:

+1 4 this comment: "a cool thing 2 do ten years ago"

Actually from an international point of view - and as OSGeo grows - I would 
think that the 4 in FOSS4G raises more questions than answers since the number 
4 and the word "for" are only homonyms in English as far as I know. The German 
words für and vier don't sound much a like and neither do the Dutch words  voor 
and vier. And those are probably the closest matches. So maybe it's a bit 
Anglo-centric to 4ce the 4 on people. For example, "for" in Japanese, ための, 
sounds nothing at all like "4" in Japanese which to me sounds like "yum".

Similarly, I doubt the Chinese pet shop, "52 Pets" would internationalize very 
well.  By the way, does anyone know why 6 was afraid of 7? I suspect a lot of 
people don't, just like I had no idea why my Thai colleague kept texting me 
555... But FOSS4G is an established brand now and brands are hard to build and 
keep. So +1 for pressing forward with FOSS-yum-G...?


On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 9:24 AM Randal Hale 
> wrote:
I would like to subscribe to your newsletter. I will bring some fuel - diesel 
in honor of the largest car manufacturing plant near me (Volkswagen)

It would strengthen the brand of OSGEO with a conference named the same. There 
seems to be a fairly large disconnect right now with the FOSS4GNA conference 
and OSGEO. That needs to be much tighter.

Although I'm a bit of a stickler with Free and Open Source - I like the idea of 
going OSGeo - because that's what I do (at least in my case) - I use GIS and I 
do it with free and open source tools.

+11 on having to explain foss4g and then dragging osgeo into it.

Lets go one step further and talk to the Geo4all folks into saying osgeo4all.

Randy


On 10/06/2015 11:12 AM, Barry Rowlingson wrote:

Okay, this is probably sticking a match under a pile of dry wood but
here goes...

Can we rename The FOSS4G Conference to The OSGeo Conference?

Cons:

 1. FOSS4G is an established brand

 2. FOSS4G sidesteps the "Free" vs "Open Source" argument by including both.

Counters to those:

 1. Really? Perhaps amongst OSGeo people, but outside our sphere I
have to expand the acronym and then go on to mention OSGeo.

 2. Let's have that argument somewhere else, okay?

Pros:

 1. Puts the *Geo* visible, not tucked away as a G at the end.

 2. Gets rid of the "4G", which may have been a cool thing 2 do ten
years ago, but not now :)

 3. Removes any confusion with 4G telecoms networks.

 4. Clearly brands the conference as an OSGeo conference. Recent
discussion about the prominence and significance of OSGeo to FOSS4G
becomes moot.

 5. Is easy to explain. The OSGeo Conference is the open source
geospatial conference. See the OSGeo web site. Search for OSGeo. One
acronym to remember.

[I toyed with the idea that the conference should be called "OSGeo
Live!" and renaming the OSGeo Live operating system disc as "OSGeoOS"
but that might be a bit too much :)]

So, this is the discuss list, discuss.

Barry
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo is becoming irrelevant. Here's why. Let's fix it.

[Andy Anderson]

There is already an open alternative to GitHub known as GitLab:

https://about.gitlab.com

Pull your own copy of the software and put it on your own server if you want. 
Or pay specifically for hosting.

Healthy competition, methinks.

— Andy

On Sep 30, 2015, at 1:20 AM, Paolo Cavallini  wrote:

> Il 30/09/2015 02:04, Jody Garnett ha scritto:
> 
>>I think that the Github move is hazardous. Sure, it is easy, free
>>for open-source projects, and really really cool. Granted, it helps
>>a lot in getting fluid contributions to open-source projects. But
>>... in two years, they may start shipping sponsors links at the end
>>of the Readme files, and in a moments notice you have to watch 20
>>seconds ads before cloning. At this point, you will want to bail
>>out, only to find out that in fact you can not, because you can not
>>delete the project anymore, or the issue tracker database can not be
>>exported ...
>> 
>> 
>> Not much of a problem here, since git means each developer has a copy of
>> the whole project. I know we had the same story with SourceForge ... 
> 
> I think the concerns about GH are real. I feel uneasy putting strategic
> pieces of infrastructure in the hands of a company is risky over the
> long term. It is true that we have a copy of the whole code base and
> history, but the scenarios suggested are possible and worrisome.
> All the best.
> -- 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Code of Conduct in Real Case

[Andy Anderson]

Ah! Anecdotes! Let me provide one from my personal experience that’s more 
relevant. A female friend of mine attending a school *was* offended by the 
gratuitous insertion of nude pictures in a slide presentation in one of her 
classes. That school was soon thereafter subjected to an investigation for 
sexual harassment by the Office of Civil Rights of the US Department of 
Education, followed by a resolution agreement.

Anecdotal cases aside, in the West these sorts of things are generally known to 
be offensive to many, many women in the wrong context. The right context would 
certainly include art museums and art classes. But at a GIS conference? 
Generally speaking, I think potentially offensive items must not only be 
germane but necessary, and if they aren’t presenters should consider 
alternatives, especially if they are presenting on behalf of a larger 
organization.

So while the Dali portrait may be germane, I don’t see it as in any way 
necessary. Sanghee writes “I just used that image to stress the importance of 
long distance from the object or sometimes from the too experienced ordinary 
culture.” But there are many, many other images that could be used instead to 
emphasize the same thing; they’re all over the place (see, e.g. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XElUS201fM8 or 
https://www.vat19.com/item/abraham-lincoln-penny-portrait — you could even make 
your own, with a geographic basis).

Regarding the girl-group picture, Sanghee writes “I believe as symbolic icon of 
wide spread of Korean culture(K-Culture) in/around Asia” — again possibly 
germane to this point, and perhaps by far the best representation and therefore 
necessary, but I have never heard of them and the point would be lost on me. A 
photo of a bowl of kimchi would be more effective in my case :-)

At the very least, I agree with Pedro-Juan Ferrer Matoses when he writes “May 
be a less-dependant-on-someone-explaining-presentation is more suitable for 
being in the landing page of the Conference.” Looks like it was a presentation 
for the 2014 meeting in Bangkok, where I assume the context was verbalized, but 
the Web is a different medium. On general principles of effectiveness, I’d 
recommend putting the context directly into the slides. Otherwise their 
inclusion does seem gratuitous.

— Andy

On Jun 24, 2015, at 10:19 AM, Milo van der Linden 
m...@dogodigi.netmailto:m...@dogodigi.net wrote:

Hahaha!

I appreciate this. Maybe we need to add some statistics to your 
political-correctness-o-meter to measure how much of the world population is 
potentially still on board at the final slide. This will give a clear insight 
of how many people will come to the event. ;-)

On Jun 24, 2015 3:41 PM, Iván Sánchez 
i...@sanchezortega.esmailto:i...@sanchezortega.es wrote:
El Miércoles 24. junio 2015 12.42.40 Charles Schweik escribió:
 [...] I was raising the question that those slides could turn some women off
 who are considering attending and I think [...]

I feel obliged to jump in the thread, because this looks just like a recent
case of the limits of joking in Spanish media.

Imagine this: Person A makes a joke involving person B who was a victim of a
terrorist bombing. Person C throws a tantrum and tells the media I'm sure B
finds A's jokes insulting, thus A must resign from his job[1]. Then, person B
jumps in and publicly states that she never felt offended by A's jokes at
all[2].

[1] http://ccaa.elpais.com/ccaa/2015/06/13/madrid/1434219265_951793.html
[2] http://www.larazon.es/opinion/columnistas/mas-fuerte-que-el-odio-AF10047124


In other words: Saying Person A should take this down because I find it
offensive is perfectly OK. Saying Person A should take this down because it
is possibly potentially offensive to a third party is not OK (and actually
erodes the right to freedom of expression).


I need to ask for **evidence-based policy** here. There is a big difference
between a Dali painting *maybe* turning someone off FOSS4G and a Dali painting
*actually* turning someone off FOSS4G.



Furthermore, there is such a thing like too much political correctness. I will
illustrate *ad absurdum* by turning my own political-correctness-o-meter up to
eleven for a second:

Sanghee should remove slide 15 because blood sausages are maybe potentially
offensive to muslims and vegans.

Sanghee should remove slide 17 because the kerning can maybe potentially make
the eyes of experience typesetters bleed.

Sanghee should remove slides 18 and 19 because they might be potential
triggers for agoraphobics.

Sanghee should remove slide 22 because it might be potentially insulting to
astronomers concerned by light pollution.

Sanghee should remove slide 23 because it might be potentially insulting to
grammar nazis.

I should remove the previous sentence because someone might potentially find
nazis offensive.

Sanghee should remove slide 25 because it might be potentially insulting to
geodesists who know circles don't have a meaning outside of