Re: [slim] Re: iTunes 5
On Sep 19, 2005, at 8:53 PM, exilejedi wrote: My suspicion is that XML format changed enough with iTunes 5 (to allow playlist folders, which are really cool) that it breaks slimserver's ability to parse it correctly. I upgraded to iTunes 5 and saw no problem importing my iTunes XML information. If you are having problems, please use the --d_itunes debugging option and do a rescan. That should help isolate the problem. Thanks, dean ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: iTunes 5
CardinalFang Wrote: > I actually keep my music on a different drive to my home directory, but > I'll check to see what's there. > > I did recreate the playlists, but SlimServer still doesn't see them and > still doesn't recognise that I'm using iTunes (you don't see the extra > options in the server web pages). > > Paul Did you ever manage to get this resolved? I (unthinking) upgraded to iTunes 5, and it seems I'm in the same boat. Even manually specifying the location of the iTunes library XML file and the iTunes Music folder, I get 0 albums, 0 artists, 0 tracks, and of course no playlists. I tried the 9/19 nightly of 6.1.2, which had problems running the build-perl-modules.pl. I tried the 9/19 nightly of 6.2, which also didn't grok the iTunes library, and which liked to make lots of duplicate entries (some single-artist, single-disc albums had 2-4 duplicates in the albums listing). So, now I'm back to the official release of 6.1.1 for Linux, and no playlists, but at least I don't have the junky listings of 6.2. My suspicion is that XML format changed enough with iTunes 5 (to allow playlist folders, which are really cool) that it breaks slimserver's ability to parse it correctly. -- exilejedi ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Got my sticker
Just got my slimdevices "stickerz" today! Woohoo! As soon as I buy my new car (within a month or so), I'll be displaying ths proudly! Thanks! Paul ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Wireless connection directly to notebook?
And put it on the wiki! http://wiki.slimdevices.com/ On Sep 19, 2005, at 2:08 PM, MrC wrote: orrinc, good to hear you got your setup working. Since it is fresh in your mind, you would be the perfect person to write up a fine set of instructions! I'll be happy to proof-read and give feedback. -- MrC ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Equalizer implementation in SS or SB2?
rme wrote: Anyone know if there is a way to implement a good digital equalizer function (7 band or 13 band) in Slimserver or SB2 firmware which could be set differently for each player settings? I don't have a preamp or digital eq in my system so this would be great for me. If you have any thoughts on how this could be done/if this could be done, let me know. I have entered a request into bugzilla #2133 Something I've looked into, but not got very far, is using BruteFIR in the slimserver decoding chain, i.e. specified by convert.conf (or better, slimserver-convert.conf. This would allow all sorts of filters to be specified including Dynamic Room Correction (DRC). I believe you can have BruteFIR running as a daemon and have a dynamic filter that depends on an external interface to set parameters, i.e. changing equalisation in real-time. But, like I said, I've not got very far along the road of checking it out. R. -- http://robinbowes.com If a man speaks in a forest, and his wife's not there, is he still wrong? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimRoku - SlimServer based music player for the Roku PhotoBridge HD1000
jmpage2 Wrote: > Is there any plan to offer skin support for SlimRoku? The provided skin > is nice but I think we could get some really varied and interesting > results of skinning support was available. Depends on what you mean by skin support. If you just mean different images, it can already be done by swapping out the image files in the images subfolder. If you're talking about more complex skinning like changing the layout, I don't currently have plans to make that possible. TheEndless -- TheEndless SLIMROKU - SLIMSERVER BASED MUSIC PLAYER FOR THE ROKU PHOTOBRIDGE HD1000 http://www.permanence.com/SlimRoku ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Very slow performance with SlimServer 6
shvejk Wrote: > Burn yourself a copy of SlimCD, boot your PC, mount the hard drive and > give it a try. I tried this before Michael, when you first announced the CD, but the thing would not work... I'm sorry I can't remember just what it was that happened (or didn't happen). [Late edit: may have been something to do with CDRom drivers] I have used three or four different machines to run Slimserver, one of them brand new and untouched before Slimserver install. This notwithstanding, I am downloading the CD again. Thanks MC -- ModelCitizen ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Equalizer implementation in SS or SB2?
Anyone know if there is a way to implement a good digital equalizer function (7 band or 13 band) in Slimserver or SB2 firmware which could be set differently for each player settings? I don't have a preamp or digital eq in my system so this would be great for me. If you have any thoughts on how this could be done/if this could be done, let me know. I have entered a request into bugzilla #2133 -- rme ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Roku Clock Radio
fcm4711 Wrote: > Definitely. :) Everytime SB2 is turned on (by remote, web-interface or > alarm) the IR signals listed under Power On: are triggered. Awesome. Thanks for the scoop! -- abdomen ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wireless connection directly to notebook?
Well I somehow floundered my way through it and got it to work! That MS info helped, but it wasn't quite how things were . . . it would be nice to have real explicit directions somewhere for some of us! It's great to have that feature, though- next time I'm going to a party I can put a nice pair of amplified speakers and the Squeezebox2 box out for music, and play everything off of my notebook while keeping it in a safe place! Orrin -- orrinc ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wireless connection directly to notebook?
orrinc, good to hear you got your setup working. Since it is fresh in your mind, you would be the perfect person to write up a fine set of instructions! I'll be happy to proof-read and give feedback. -- MrC ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Very slow performance with SlimServer 6
Burn yourself a copy of SlimCD, boot your PC, mount the hard drive and give it a try. You can easily find out if your Windows setup is at fault. http://www.herger.net/slim/detail.php?nr=763&kategorie=slim I used to have annoying issues with my Windows setup. SlimCD works great for me and it is very stable. Hope it helps. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Roku Clock Radio
abdomen Wrote: > Hmm, it just occurred to me that Felix's IR blaster plugin may already > do what I suggested above (I don't run the nightlies, so I haven't > tried). Does anyone know whether Power On events configured in the IR > blaster plugin UI are triggered when an alarm occurs (as opposed to > only when the Power button on the remote is used)? > > IR blaster plugin: > http://www.gwendesign.com/slimserver/dev_hard_and_software.htm#irblaster Definitely. :) Everytime SB2 is turned on (by remote, web-interface or alarm) the IR signals listed under Power On: are triggered. Felix -- fcm4711 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Artist/Artistsort tags not what is really needed
Julian, There's some related discussion in bug 616, though maybe it should be forked off as a separate bug: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=616 I'm not sure I fully understand your problem however. I think what you're saying is that when browsing artists, it is confusing because the displayed strings look out of order at first glance: Beatles James Brown Buffalo Tom until you identify which are people's names and identify the last name. But then you state: > I think I underestimated the extent to which I used the physical cue > from the CD spines when I browsed my CDs in my CD racks. I don't know about your CDs, but on mine the artist names are written just as above, and I sort them on my shelf just as the SB does. Of course if we did have an intermediate "display name" you could choose to set yours to "LAST, FIRST". greg ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: "no album"
How about giving these tracks an 'Album Name' such as 'Singles - Artist Name'. Then when you browse by artist you would get a list of the artists actual albums plus the 'singles' album. I would suggest, as I have shown above, that you add the artist name to the 'singles' album as this should ensure SlimServer lists them correctly. For example: Singles - ABC Singles - DEF I have very few singles but use a dummy artist name of 'Misc' so they get shown with the artists full albums. David -- DJMUK ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] roku annouces 'clock radio' unit
Now there's something that actually does look like an alarm clock :) -Original Message- From: jackaninny [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 September 2005 16:23 To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Subject: [slim] roku annouces 'clock radio' unit more aimed at the bose product and that customer... http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/12685951.htm Posted on Mon, Sep. 19, 2005 Get up! Roku Internet radio rocks on easily By Dawn C. Chmielewski Mercury News Roku wants to replace your bedside clock radio with a gadget that tunes in Internet radio stations and plays your digital music collection. The SoundBridge Radio, which Roku announces today, is one of those rare home-networked devices that was easy to set up and use -- just like a radio. And it produced surprisingly rich sound quality that put it on a par with Bose or Cambridge SoundWorks. The SoundBridge Radio works like its traditional namesake -- it tunes in AM and FM stations and plays music through its built-in, high-fidelity speakers. But it also connects to your home's high-speed wireless network to fetch and play music off your computer's hard drive or receive Internet radio stations. Those include local stations that stream their broadcasts online or channels that are found only on the Internet. But Roku will have a tough time competing with the audiophile's favorite, Bose's Wave Music System, when it comes to looks. Roku's original networked home music player, the SoundBridge, has a distinctive tubular design with a long LCD display that gave it a sleek, futuristic feel. The SoundBridge Radio, on the other hand, bears an unfortunate resemblance to those gigantic home intercoms of the '60s. Some people will hasten to note that what's important is not how a radio looks, but how it sounds. Still, if Roku wants a spot on my granite kitchen counter, it better look hot, too. That's doubly true if I'm prepared to lay out $399 for a clock radio, instead of the usual $10. But enough about looks. Roku recognized an opportunity in the growing popularity of Internet radio, which now attracts about 40 million listeners. The original SoundBridge let people listen to Internet radio or their digital music collections through their home stereo. Of course, not everybody wants to invest the effort in modifying their existing stereo equipment to liberate the music from their home computers. The SoundBridge Radio targets this less-hassle-is-more market. It took less than five minutes to add the radio to my encrypted wireless home network. The LCD screen prompted me to provide the most basic information -- language, time zone, country of residence and network password, which I did using the remote control. After briefly restarting, the SoundBridge Radio was ready to rock. A source button lets you select audio options: AM or FM radio, Internet radio or your digital music collection stored on a computer's hard drive or a memory card. I was impressed with how the SoundBridge Radio automatically found the music tucked away inside my Mac's iTunes folder. The only limitation -- and it's a significant one -- is one Apple Computer has imposed. The SoundBridge Radio cannot play music purchased from Apple's iTunes Music Store, because Apple refuses to license its software to other hardware makers. (Apple, c'mon, set my music free.) The SoundBridge Radio works with other digital music services, playing music purchased or played in a continuous stream from Napster or MSN Music. It also will play music streams from RealNetworks' Rhapsody. But given that Apple controls 82 percent of the paid online music market, this will give iTunes music buyers pause. Roku added some other nice touches that are worthy of mentioning. It ships with 50 pre-programmed Internet radio stations, including my personal favorite, the eclectic Radio Paradise. A scan button lets you find new stations, just as you would tune any other radio. The radio also has six preset buttons along the top, which can be configured to remember 18 channels. Naturally, you can store your favorite radio stations. But what I liked was the ability to also store playlists or even albums fetched from my computer's hard drive. For example, I stored Coldplay's ``X&Y'' by simply playing the album and touching a preset. The system conveniently and automatically assigns names to each channel, so you don't need total recall. One more thing: It's a clock radio with alarm, with a big snooze button. But don't toss this across the room when you're half asleep. You'll regret it. the help desk Contact Dawn C. Chmielewski at dchmielewski@ mercurynews.com or (800) 643-1902. -- jackaninny ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimDevices losing out in the UK
Neal Gabbons wrote a comprehensive review of Squeezebox 1 (version 2) and Slimserver in the May edition of HiFi World. He was enthusiastic about the sound and even suggested numerous tweaks to the squeezebox that included replacing the power supply and some internal components with upgraded electronics! The comparison was with an esoteric Naim CD5 and Flatcap 2 power supply costing many times the price! All in all, the review was very positive with Mr Gabbons extolling the virtues of the Exact Audio Copy codec (http://www.exactaudiocopy.de) he used and declaring that after tweaking, his Squeezebox sounded almost as good as his Naim! There was no comparison with any competing WiFi device in the review and being a committed audiophile, he made no attempt to compare any other lossy codecs alongside lossless EAC. So at least the niche HiFi press is taking the Squeezebox seriously! David Miller ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Very slow performance with SlimServer 6
abdomen Wrote: > it might be a useful troubleshooting experiment to stop all services and > other processes by clicking End Process on everything but slim.exe in > the Processes tab of Windows Task Manager. Unfortunately, if you do this you end up with no network to broadcast across (those pesky svchost.exe's you see). I'm afraid I've been there, done that and it took lots of my time and I got nowhere. I'll have a look at Permon and Process Explorer as soon as I've stopped working, putting kids to bed, sleeping, waiting for Slimserver to list tracks etc. It looks like I have to get Perfmon to monitor disk I/O, physical memory I/O and virtual memory I/O. Not too sure what I am looking for Process Explorer to tell me but maybe it'll become clear when I download it. I must note that loads of other programs work just fine on all the computers I have run SlimServer on (e.g. Photoshop, Soulseek, Azureus, MapInfo, VMVare, IIS, Retina, iTunes, Foobar2000, various games... even Office 2003! to name but a few). The only sofware I have continuing frustration with is Slimserver (OK, Soulseek is not too brilliant either... but at least it works well for a week or so before taking all my RAM and then only needs a restart to recover). Thanks for you help. MC -- ModelCitizen ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Problems with multi-disc albums
same thing here - download from about two nghts ago - fixed a lot of stuff but now double discs are all disc 2 - though no missing tracks and the correct sequence is maintained -- gandt ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Received the Elpac power supply today
buddachile Wrote: > I would think not. You could find out for $10. That nasty little switching supply is not your friend. Regards, Music Machine -- Music Machine ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimDevices losing out in the UK
ultra238a Wrote: > Hi, > I have just spoken to one our more major retailers who sells both the > SB2 and the Roku M1000 and so far this month they have had their best > month ever on the Roku at a massive 20x units, previous months have see > huge sales figures of 17x units and 12x units respectively. In > comparison the SB2 has sold nearly 5x the amount Roku has sold this > month and is looking like it will be 7x or 8x as much this month. > Paul - that's good to know, clearly these consumers must be finding out about the Squeezebox through word-of-mouth or via the web because there is precious little coverage of Squeezebox in gadget/computer/hifi mags, many of which would be ideal publications for targetted marketing. Think how many more units could be shifted by raising the profile of Squeezebox! -- Milhouse ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimDevices losing out in the UK
ultra238a Wrote: > The problem with the Roku radio is that it looks like it has been made > out of cheap plastic and doesn't have any quality about it - for $400 > no thanks. > > Paul > Progressive Consumer Electronics Ltd Give it the same "scuba" coating as a Squeezebox and even cheap plastic will look good. I wonder how much a wireless SB2 would cost with semi-decent stereo and sub speakers? The aesthetics of the SoundBrige Radio don't appeal to me, but the concept certainly does. My only question about the SoundBridge: does it support a custom alarm track, and where can I get a sample of Quasimodo shouting "Esmeralda, Esmeralda"? That hump is damned unattractive but stuck in a corner it might not be so bad! -- Milhouse ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: roku annouces 'clock radio' unit
Bruce Hartley Wrote: > Slim Devices must be way ahead of the curve > > Their units have always looked like clock radios ;-) Sorry to say; that sort of attitude might lead to a loss of market (if not already...). Roku does have some advantages that appeal to "common" people, if I may (like big displays, MS media server support, TV integration). This new device hits a quite certain niche in the market, and will help them get audience. I will give you an example. I myself just recently jumped on the home digital music wagon, buying my first SB2. Immediately I had a problem, since I wanted to put it into a bathroom, and I had to think about an amp, enclosure, speakers, etc. For me, a bathroom device does not mean top notch quality, so if their would be a readily available "bathroom-frienly" slim unit with an integrated amp - that would be a great relief. My next unit is going to be a living room one - and there I really would need a big display - or a TV connection. And a clock radio version with integrated speakers fits my bedroom just right - no need to buy a mini system just to connect an SB2. Somehow Roku is on an easier path - they do not have to care about the server software, so they can concentrate on different hardware units for different niche markets. For Slim Devices its a hard task to follow them, since they have also to take care of the server application. Variety in hardware version is a big advantage, though... -- ymilner ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Roku Clock Radio
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=16483 -- ymilner ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Received the Elpac power supply today
mkosma Wrote: > I'm curious whether it will effect the sound on the digital out. I would think not. -- buddachile ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimServer not picking up all songs
I looked at my server settings and saw that "Use iTunes" was selected by default (I just installed my server yesterday). So I changed that and rescanned my library, erasing it first. Now all is well. So maybe the iTunes connection is the problem? -- nicheplayer ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Artist/Artistsort tags not what is really needed
Alex Twisleton-Wykeham-Fiennes Wrote: > On Monday 19 September 2005 14:21, JulianL wrote: > > > So, finally what I have come to is that for me what I really want in > > the tags is not the ability to use Artistsort to override the Artist > > tag sort order but rather the ability to have a tag like > > ArtistDisplayName to override the Artist display name when a track > is > > playing (but _not_ when browsing). > > wouldn't it be much simpler to just add in an option that if a listing > is > using an XxxSort field then rather than showing Xxx, it would actually > show > the value of XxxSort? That way the listing would make sense to you and > you > wouldn't need to rekey all you data? > > Alex > > Hmmm. Correct! That would be more elegant. Good idea. That would also get round a nasty issue I have with the Telcanto client. It sees the artist list as just the "Artist" values (although curiously they are delivered to the Telcanto client in the correct sort order, i.e. with Artistsort used as the sort string when set). The trouble is that when I tap a tab at the top of the screen, e.g. the "cde" tab to take me to the start of the artists beginning with "c", Telcanto searches down the list but is searching the list of Artist tags with no access to the Artistsort tags so it sees "David Bowie" for instance, thinks it has hit the "d"s, and positions the display there. With your suggestion then SlimServer will automatically deliver the Artistsort text where appropriate to Telcanto and the tabs would work properly without needing to add extra logic into Telcanto and extra client-server protocols to allow Telcanto to get access to the Artistsort tag values (which apparently is where Telcanto and Slim Devices are currently at in their discussions). Brilliant! I guess I need to go and file an RFE. - Julian -- JulianL ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Problems with multi-disc albums
I'm experiencing a problem with multi-disc albums and wondering if it's just me or if anyone else has problems. Setup: Win XP SP2, SlimServer 6.2 nightly from 2005-09-18. Symptoms: Multi-disc albums don't display correct disc numbers. I have a lot of 2 disc sets in FLAC which use the DISCNUMBER tag. In Slimserver both discs show up as disc 2 although all tracks are listed in the correct track and disc order. They play OK too. I also have one 4 disc set in MP3 format. These use the PARTINSET tag. Only the first two discs show up, both labelled disc 4 though, the other two discs are nowhere to be seen. None of the above are tagged as various artists and all was ok until a week or so ago. Thanks for any help. Richard ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimServer not picking up all songs
yeah that sounds familiar. I have had that happen to me occasionally. I also just perform a complete rescan to solve it. No idea if it's a bug -- maxman ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: roku annouces 'clock radio' unit
Slim Devices must be way ahead of the curve Their units have always looked like clock radios ;-) -- Bruce Hartley ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Cheap upgrades SB1 to SB2 and SB3 and ...
On Mon, 2005-09-19 at 11:24 -0700, Kevin O. Lepard wrote: > Actually, I've been thinking about doing this. I'm not a big fan of > ebay, but I guess I could go that way. I really like craigslist for this kinda stuff. Works best, of course, if there is a local section for your area. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: SB1: Feeling Forgotten
it would cost less if you sold and rebought. Actually, I've been thinking about doing this. I'm not a big fan of ebay, but I guess I could go that way. There doesn't seem to be a place to post "For Sale" on the forum, and I don't want to dump that into the list. Any thoughts for a "For Sale" section on the forum? Kevin -- Kevin O. Lepard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] "no album"
Hi, I've got a lot single songs. They are not associated with an album, hence have album tag empty. Slimserver picks these up as 'no album' when browsing for music. I noticed that when browsing from artist to 'no album' to song the squeezebox then lists all songs that have the album tag empty. Is this the expected behavior? How can I fix this? eg browse artist - then browse album - then get list of all mp3's that do not have an album tag from various artists -- maxman ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: SB1: Feeling Forgotten
On Mon, 2005-09-19 at 10:47 -0700, bishopdonmiguel wrote: > > I'm not sure why you feel 3 is a heavy investment > For me, $800 is a heavy investment. Well, part of that money was gone as soon as you opened the boxes, but there is an active used market, it would cost less if you sold and rebought. > I suppose I am trying to encourage Slim > Devices to build upgradeability into any new units. I am no engineer > and I am likely oversimplifying the matter but the idea of > "componentizing" the design seems logical (but perhaps impractical?). They have done this, more and more in later designs. But something that sells for $200 is not going to have much upgrade potential. > If someone wants a new & improved display, or a better DAC, or a > WMA/FLAC decoder, or ???... just buy it and plug it in. I think most of this is impractical. Of course, the two digial outputs of your SB1s can drive any DAC you want. But most of the external DACs cost more than SB2s. In general, the "upward upgrading" concept doesn't work very well for lots of stuff. You can't put a more powerful motor in your 2003 BMW just because the 2006 version is better. Or, if you can it costs more than it is worth. I once bought an ALR computer that had most of its parts on plug in cards. But the cards cost $100 and new motherboards are less. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Roku Clock Radio
1. It's ugly as sin. Agreed. 2. Looks big. Not necessarily bad. To some extend bigger is better. I'm really more interested in a boom-box than a clock radio. I'd love to have my luggable Bose with a built-in SB2. 3. It's expensive. True. Kevin -- Kevin O. Lepard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB1: Feeling Forgotten
> I'm not sure why you feel 3 is a heavy investment For me, $800 is a heavy investment. > I can understand how you feel left out, but I can also assure > you that you are not forgotten. Yes, I do REALLY APPRECIATE that too. It is certainly one of the main reasons why I choose Slim Devices to begin with. The development community is superb. > but at the end of the day I think my current setup is just > about perfect for my needs so I'm not complaining. I feel just about the same way and I'm not really complaining, although it probably sounds like I am. I suppose I am trying to encourage Slim Devices to build upgradeability into any new units. I am no engineer and I am likely oversimplifying the matter but the idea of "componentizing" the design seems logical (but perhaps impractical?). It would be nice to have the option to "plug-in" a board/chip/firmware to upgrade just the portion of the product that is important to the end user. If someone wants a new & improved display, or a better DAC, or a WMA/FLAC decoder, or ???... just buy it and plug it in. -- bishopdonmiguel ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimp3 causes router to crash
I updated my Slimp3 to the latest firmware but the problem continued. I have a Linksys BEFSX41 and they haven't updated their firmware since early last year. I decided to grab a beta firmware for the Linksys, 1.52.5_beta4, and the router no longer crashes. However, the Slimp3 cannot find the DHCP server for an address. I assigned it a static IP and it works fine now. Not sure why this is, but I guess I'll leave it that way. -- uffa ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Very slow performance with SlimServer 6
In addition to capturing performance metrics, it might be a useful troubleshooting experiment to stop all services and other processes by clicking End Process on everything but slim.exe in the Processes tab of Windows Task Manager. For good measure, I would also restart slim.exe after doing this. Operating the Squeezebox at this point may give an indication of whether other software is contributing to the performance problem. Note that clicking End Process on processes that may effect the basic operation of the computer will result in "This is a critical system process. Task Manager cannot end this process." Be sure to restart the computer afterward, as this experiment will probably shut down any antivirus software that is running. -- abdomen ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB1: Feeling Forgotten
Part of the issue may be that the SB1 firmware could not be open sourced, so even if the community had the resources to add additional features, it would be difficult or impossible. As the owner of 5 pre-SB2 devices, I must admit being envious of the additional features of the SB2, but at the end of the day I think my current setup is just about perfect for my needs so I'm not complaining. -- jth ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Roku Clock Radio
Hmm, it just occurred to me that Felix's IR blaster plugin may already do what I suggested above (I don't run the nightlies, so I haven't tried). Does anyone know whether Power On events configured in the IR blaster plugin UI are triggered when an alarm occurs (as opposed to only when the Power button on the remote is used)? IR blaster plugin: http://www.gwendesign.com/slimserver/dev_hard_and_software.htm#irblaster -- abdomen ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Roku Clock Radio
Seeing that product announcement made me think about how I might use the Squeezebox2's alarm functionality once I buy one for the bedroom. It struck me that it would be helpful to have the ability in the Slimserver UI to configure an alarm to be preceded by one or more IR blaster commands. The use I have in mind for this is to turn on the amplifier at wakeup time rather than leaving it on all night. If others would use this feature, I would be glad to file an enhancement bug for this. -- abdomen ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Very slow performance with SlimServer 6
radish wrote: stinkingpig Wrote: ceejay wrote: ...So the answer isn't simply "slimerver performance sucks", but clearly some people are having problems. Do we have a performance expert in the audience who can help identify some pointers or diagnostics? Ceejay Performance profiling is tougher on Windows because it generally requires sitting at the box or controlling it via remote desktop. Screenshots from Process Explorer could be handy for diagnosing memory leaks, but won't show you anything about disk usage. Some vmstat information has been posted by Linux users with performance problems, check the archives. It was inconclusive though, IIRC. Perfmon will log pretty much any metric you can think of (including process stats) to file or a db for later analysis. If someone could come up with a list of useful stats, it should be possible to create a template file for people to download and use to grabs stats. disk I/O, physical memory I/O, virtual memory I/O. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org : It's a Scientific Venture! "I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin, so across the Western ocean I must wander." -- All for Me Grog, traditional ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Roku SoundBridge Radio
Quoting "Kevin O. Lepard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Saw this today: saw this too: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=16484 -k ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Roku SoundBridge Radio
Saw this today: http://www.rokulabs.com/products/soundbridge/SoundbridgeRadio/index.php I want one of these, but I want SlimDevices to make it. :-) Kevin -- Kevin O. Lepard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB1: Feeling Forgotten
Quoting bishopdonmiguel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I own 3 Squeezeboxen V1. These toys have revolutionized access to my > music and it's wonderful thing. Many thanks to Sean, Dean, and all the > other Slim Devices employees and open source developers who have made > this happen and continue to make new things happen. > > Having said that, I'd like to express a concern of late (please no > flames). With 3 units, I feel I have invested heavily in the product > line. My experiences to date have been GREAT but there are some little > things that I've been patiently waiting/hoping to have > fixed/added/improved. And recently it seemed like the time for 2 > biggies was at hand... Built-in FLAC/WMA decoding, COOL... oh wait, > gotta have a SB2... ReplayGain, YES... Bass/Treble control!! erk...not available on SB2. Oversight, really, but still exists. The problem is that the hardware in SB1 is limited. There were a great number of upgrades during the life of the SB1. FW version 40 after all. SB1 just coudn't hack a proper native FLAC implementation, or any other codecs. If Slim Devices' plan for growth relies on things like SqueezeNetwork and its ability to allow you to run without yoru own server then they HAD to rework the hardware to fully support the needs of this technology. You still get the benefit of all the development work on SlimServer, including the various artists manaement, random play, increased graphics performance and most importantly the rebirth of the Snow Screensaver :) EVery effort is made for continuing support of even the SliMP3. Your original investment is sound. You got a product with the features mentioned on release, and many new ones that came up along the way. unfortunately, everything has a limit. I can understand how you feel left out, but I can also assure you that you are not forgotten. I do have SB2 players. I also have SB1 and Slimp3 players connected to my network. They still have their uses, and they are still part of testing for any coding that I do. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Roku Clock Radio
superbad Wrote: > > 1. It's ugly as sin. > 2. Looks big. > 3. It's expensive. > It doesn't have DAB - there's no way in the UK I'd buy a radio costing that much without support for digital radio. OK, I know you can stream most of the stations, but it does chew up bandwidth on your connection. Also, there was a Sony announced a couple of months back that looked similar, but better designed. I wonder what happened to that? My 2p on this product: I think this could be an inflection point, if Roku are going downmarket with clock radios etc., surely there is an opening for Slim to move up the audiophile end of the market with a uprated component in standard sized case with higher quality components. Also, the audiophile seperates market isn't an area where others are pushing their technology and one where there are higher margins and where Far Eastern competition won't be so strong. Mind you, I'm not in the consumer electronics business, so what do I know :-) Paul -- CardinalFang ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: How to use FLAC?
--- Munge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for the information. Let's forget about Apple lossless. My > number > one option is to use FLAC, but I don't know how I would do that. > There > must be a number of FLAC wrappers (?). I'm not planning to write my > own > application just to encode some FLAC files. there are a lot of options listed on the FLAC site: http://flac.sourceforge.net/download.html http://flac.sourceforge.net/links.html#software Josh __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimRoku - SlimServer based music player for the Roku PhotoBridge HD1000
Is there any plan to offer skin support for SlimRoku? The provided skin is nice but I think we could get some really varied and interesting results of skinning support was available. -- jmpage2 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Indication of selected shuffle mode in the Squeezbox display
I have just seen that there already exists a feature request under http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1400. So you can there vote for it. -- dip ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB1: Feeling Forgotten
I have a slimp3 (the original slimdevices hw product) and still use it regularly. If you want to upgrade, ebay or offer them up for sale on this list. I know I've been thinking about getting another one, but don't need the extra stuff of the sb2 (yet). I'm not sure why you feel 3 is a heavy investment - I know there are people on this list who've purchased at least 10 and probably are thinking about selling. Just upgrade incrementally, rather than all at once. You can probably get $150 for a good used sb1. That means it would only cost (at most) $150 for an sb2 - a pretty good deal IMHO. Paul ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB1: Feeling Forgotten
I own 3 Squeezeboxen V1. These toys have revolutionized access to my music and it's wonderful thing. Many thanks to Sean, Dean, and all the other Slim Devices employees and open source developers who have made this happen and continue to make new things happen. Having said that, I'd like to express a concern of late (please no flames). With 3 units, I feel I have invested heavily in the product line. My experiences to date have been GREAT but there are some little things that I've been patiently waiting/hoping to have fixed/added/improved. And recently it seemed like the time for 2 biggies was at hand... Built-in FLAC/WMA decoding, COOL... oh wait, gotta have a SB2... ReplayGain, YES... oh wait, gotta have a SB2. Is it blasphemy to admit that lately I've felt a little forgotten? As promised SilmServer continues to support my SB1's so I'm not abandoned and I SINCERELY appreciate that, but I do feel a bit like a forgotten step-child. I understand the reason for this... we are always focused on the new thing and the hard-core developers very likely purchased (or perhaps were given) nice shiny new SB2s to encourage forward development. But for us owners on a budget who can't continually repurchase, this doesn't leave a good taste. I watched the SliMP3 for some time and then invested in SB1 because I thought it would be an upgradeable platform. I guess my timing was bad, and perhaps in some ways the SB1 was upgradeable but all the development effort (and that's what really counts) has shifted to SB2. Some long awaited features require a SB2, I feel somewhat hostage to this development approach. Either pony up and replace your hardware or live with what you have as-is. From time-to-time (measured in years) this might make sense as revolutionary enhancements often require a completely new foundation. But as a S.O.P. it makes me question my original investment, and honestly it makes me hesitant to invest further as a new model may be released at any time and my investment is rendered stagnant. I understand that technology today is obsolete tomorrow. I also understand that for Slim Devices' business model to work it must continually advance and find new sources of revenue. Development must focus on the current generation of hardware. I suppose what I am suggesting to Sean and company is to take the time to design the next model for upgradeability. Knowing that my investment won't be spoiled will go a long way to convincing me to jump back in and purchase new units. With this post I would like to stimulate some constructive conversation, or perhaps just express my concern and feel better about the situation by doing so. In no way is this post intended to take away from all the truly great things Slim Devices and the development community have accomplished. If I never upgrade again I will likely be happy for years. I just wish I could take advantage of the things I've been waiting for but now seem unattainable. -- bishopdonmiguel ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Roku Clock Radio
Looks like Roku has been thinking about the all-in-one market as well: http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000243059438/ Problems I see with this implementation: (ignoring the problems inherent to Roku's approach in general) 1. It's ugly as sin. 2. Looks big. 3. It's expensive. Is a VFD really necessary (or even desirable) for something that sits next to your bed? I would love to see Slim Devices do something like this, but do it right. Whether the market is really there to make it worthwhile, I don't know. But I'd buy a couple if they came in under $300. -- superbad ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimDevices losing out in the UK
The problem with the Roku radio is that it looks like it has been made out of cheap plastic and doesn't have any quality about it - for $400 no thanks. Paul Progressive Consumer Electronics Ltd -- ultra238a ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] roku annouces 'clock radio' unit
more aimed at the bose product and that customer... http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/12685951.htm Posted on Mon, Sep. 19, 2005 Get up! Roku Internet radio rocks on easily By Dawn C. Chmielewski Mercury News Roku wants to replace your bedside clock radio with a gadget that tunes in Internet radio stations and plays your digital music collection. The SoundBridge Radio, which Roku announces today, is one of those rare home-networked devices that was easy to set up and use -- just like a radio. And it produced surprisingly rich sound quality that put it on a par with Bose or Cambridge SoundWorks. The SoundBridge Radio works like its traditional namesake -- it tunes in AM and FM stations and plays music through its built-in, high-fidelity speakers. But it also connects to your home's high-speed wireless network to fetch and play music off your computer's hard drive or receive Internet radio stations. Those include local stations that stream their broadcasts online or channels that are found only on the Internet. But Roku will have a tough time competing with the audiophile's favorite, Bose's Wave Music System, when it comes to looks. Roku's original networked home music player, the SoundBridge, has a distinctive tubular design with a long LCD display that gave it a sleek, futuristic feel. The SoundBridge Radio, on the other hand, bears an unfortunate resemblance to those gigantic home intercoms of the '60s. Some people will hasten to note that what's important is not how a radio looks, but how it sounds. Still, if Roku wants a spot on my granite kitchen counter, it better look hot, too. That's doubly true if I'm prepared to lay out $399 for a clock radio, instead of the usual $10. But enough about looks. Roku recognized an opportunity in the growing popularity of Internet radio, which now attracts about 40 million listeners. The original SoundBridge let people listen to Internet radio or their digital music collections through their home stereo. Of course, not everybody wants to invest the effort in modifying their existing stereo equipment to liberate the music from their home computers. The SoundBridge Radio targets this less-hassle-is-more market. It took less than five minutes to add the radio to my encrypted wireless home network. The LCD screen prompted me to provide the most basic information -- language, time zone, country of residence and network password, which I did using the remote control. After briefly restarting, the SoundBridge Radio was ready to rock. A source button lets you select audio options: AM or FM radio, Internet radio or your digital music collection stored on a computer's hard drive or a memory card. I was impressed with how the SoundBridge Radio automatically found the music tucked away inside my Mac's iTunes folder. The only limitation -- and it's a significant one -- is one Apple Computer has imposed. The SoundBridge Radio cannot play music purchased from Apple's iTunes Music Store, because Apple refuses to license its software to other hardware makers. (Apple, c'mon, set my music free.) The SoundBridge Radio works with other digital music services, playing music purchased or played in a continuous stream from Napster or MSN Music. It also will play music streams from RealNetworks' Rhapsody. But given that Apple controls 82 percent of the paid online music market, this will give iTunes music buyers pause. Roku added some other nice touches that are worthy of mentioning. It ships with 50 pre-programmed Internet radio stations, including my personal favorite, the eclectic Radio Paradise. A scan button lets you find new stations, just as you would tune any other radio. The radio also has six preset buttons along the top, which can be configured to remember 18 channels. Naturally, you can store your favorite radio stations. But what I liked was the ability to also store playlists or even albums fetched from my computer's hard drive. For example, I stored Coldplay's ``X&Y'' by simply playing the album and touching a preset. The system conveniently and automatically assigns names to each channel, so you don't need total recall. One more thing: It's a clock radio with alarm, with a big snooze button. But don't toss this across the room when you're half asleep. You'll regret it. the help desk Contact Dawn C. Chmielewski at dchmielewski@ mercurynews.com or (800) 643-1902. -- jackaninny ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimDevices losing out in the UK
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/19/05 11:03 AM >>> PAUL WILLIAMSON Wrote: > >>> radish.1vlzy0 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com 09/19/05 9:59 > Well it doesn't look much worse than (say) a Bose Waveradio, > and plenty of people have those by their beds. Anyway, I wasn't > really coming at it from an asthetic POV (I think it looks rather bland) > but from a functionality POV. The speakers are built in, it has a radio, > and there are real buttons on the device itself. It's perfect for bedroom > use. This would do a great job of replacing the SBG & computer > speakers setup I have in the bedroom. If it weren't a Roku I'd buy it > in an instant. Fair enough. Although if I had a way of doing the following: 1. IR blaster to turn my TV on using the alarm plug-in and switch to the video2 input on my TV 2. Play local radio instead of a playlist or internet radio upon firing up. I would buy a squeezebox to do the same thing, but better. No need for snooze (for me), I've never sen the point. I set my alarm to wake me at a specific time to wake up, not to delay the inevitable for another 9 minutes. My wife would never let me put a wave radio in the bedroom. They are really ugly and take up too much space on an end table. Paul -- radish ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimDevices losing out in the UK
PAUL WILLIAMSON Wrote: > >>> radish.1vlzy0 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com 09/19/05 9:59 > AM >>> > > > > Now this is a nice product. Well, it would be if it had a > > SlimDevices logo on the front... > > > > http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000243059438/ > > That is EASILY the second ugliest product I've ever seen, only > topped by that other dorku product of theirs. Are they focused > on making dumb looking products? They must employ an > anti-design team... > > Paul Well it doesn't look much worse than (say) a Bose Waveradio, and plenty of people have those by their beds. Anyway, I wasn't really coming at it from an asthetic POV (I think it looks rather bland) but from a functionality POV. The speakers are built in, it has a radio, and there are real buttons on the device itself. It's perfect for bedroom use. This would do a great job of replacing the SBG & computer speakers setup I have in the bedroom. If it weren't a Roku I'd buy it in an instant. -- radish ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SlimServer not picking up all songs
I use Tiger and iTunes 5.0 also and that's been a problem for me too. I just clear the library and rescan the whole albums. It takes a whole but you should see everything after that. I wonder if it's reported as a bug... Anybody else getting the same issue? Hiroyuki On Sep 19, 2005, at 10:40 AM, nicheplayer wrote: I just ripped two albums using the iTunes-LAME script under Mac OSX Tiger and iTunes 5.0. I have my music library stored on an external FireWire drive. iTunes can see and play all the songs in each album, and I can confirm via the Finder that all the songs exist where they're supposed to exist, but the slimserver only sees a couple of the songs in the album. The weird thing is that (this is using the default theme for the Web interface), the Home/Browse Artist/Album pane shows the name of the album and reports the correct number of tracks for that album. When I click through on the name of the album, though (Home/Browse Artists/Artist/Album), I'm only seeing tracks 1,3,5,7,9, and 11 of 11. Same goes for the other album I ripped yesterday. All of my other 938 albums appear to work as expected. SlimServer Version: 6.1.1 - 3774 - Mac OS X 10.4.2 (8C46) - EN - utf8 -- nicheplayer ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SlimServer not picking up all songs
I just ripped two albums using the iTunes-LAME script under Mac OSX Tiger and iTunes 5.0. I have my music library stored on an external FireWire drive. iTunes can see and play all the songs in each album, and I can confirm via the Finder that all the songs exist where they're supposed to exist, but the slimserver only sees a couple of the songs in the album. The weird thing is that (this is using the default theme for the Web interface), the Home/Browse Artist/Album pane shows the name of the album and reports the correct number of tracks for that album. When I click through on the name of the album, though (Home/Browse Artists/Artist/Album), I'm only seeing tracks 1,3,5,7,9, and 11 of 11. Same goes for the other album I ripped yesterday. All of my other 938 albums appear to work as expected. SlimServer Version: 6.1.1 - 3774 - Mac OS X 10.4.2 (8C46) - EN - utf8 -- nicheplayer ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: How to use FLAC?
Munge wrote: 1. Are you using the Mac platform exclusively? 2. Do you have a lot of Apple lossless already? 3. Do you want to keep your Apple lossless? 1. No. PC only. 2. No 3. N/A It's just that I find iTunes easy to use, and I haven't seen anything else. Ok, that makes your choice easy. Use EAC and set it up to convert to flac directly. R. -- http://robinbowes.com If a man speaks in a forest, and his wife's not there, is he still wrong? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimDevices losing out in the UK
Hi, Ok lets put things in to perspective sales wise when comparing SB2 to Roku. We all know that the SB2 is functionally better and sounds much much better than the Roku but the Roku is cheaper are arguably better looking for retail. I have just spoken to one our more major retailers who sells both the SB2 and the Roku M1000 and so far this month they have had their best month ever on the Roku at a massive 20x units, previous months have see huge sales figures of 17x units and 12x units respectively. In comparison the SB2 has sold nearly 5x the amount Roku has sold this month and is looking like it will be 7x or 8x as much this month. What does this tell you? Well: 1. The SB2 is a better product and customer know it. 2. It doesn't matter that the SB2 is more expensive and not quite as nice looking. 3. We are selling more SB2 in the UK than Roku are selling M1000 regardless of all of their great reviews and PR that they get. Oh and by the way, I think that new Roku Radio looks minging - discuss.. Paul Progressive Consumer Electronics Ltd -- ultra238a ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Re: SlimDevices losing out in the UK
I thought it looked really nice until I saw the HUGE speaker hiding behind it! I think the display is probably too small as well. James NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimDevices losing out in the UK
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/19/05 9:59 AM >>> > > Now this is a nice product. Well, it would be if it had a > SlimDevices logo on the front... > > http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000243059438/ That is EASILY the second ugliest product I've ever seen, only topped by that other dorku product of theirs. Are they focused on making dumb looking products? They must employ an anti-design team... Paul ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimDevices losing out in the UK
This product is pretty neat too. http://www.rokulabs.com/products/soundbridge/SoundbridgeRadio/index.php Isn't technology getting really good these days. -- conger ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Switching off digital output when in standby.
Great, now all I need to do is get my bugszilla account enabled to vote for it. -- oreillymj ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: How to use FLAC?
Try dbpowerAMP if all you want to do is rip your music into flac format. www.dbpoweramp.com Tag&Rename will help with the Tags www.softpointer.com/tr.htm D. -- deksawyer ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimDevices losing out in the UK
Now this is a nice product. Well, it would be if it had a SlimDevices logo on the front... http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000243059438/ -- radish ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wireless connection directly to notebook?
You can search Microsoft's XP support articles to find out more about this. Here's one for you - search the page for "hoc". http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;313242 -- MrC ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: softsqueeze stutters at the beginning of songs
Nope. compression was disabled, but changing it made no difference. So - for now, I guess I am okay. Rather than using the SSH settings built into softsqueeze, I run putty first, configured to tunnel the necessary local ports. It's behaving much better this way, although in theory there should be no difference. Would be nice not to have to run putty in background, but really that's not such a big deal. Possibly once Richard frees up he may have some additional ideas about this. monty -- mkosma ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: How to use FLAC?
EAC is generally considered the best ripper for windows. It works just fine with FLAC. Search the forum and you should find a howto guide. -- radish ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: How to use FLAC?
Thanks for the information. Let's forget about Apple lossless. My number one option is to use FLAC, but I don't know how I would do that. There must be a number of FLAC wrappers (?). I'm not planning to write my own application just to encode some FLAC files. /Munge -- Munge ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimTray not really starting slim.exe
I'm actually having the opposite problem in that slimserver is setup as an automatic windows service and starts up properly automatically. However, when I right click on the tray icon and exit/close, the slim.exe programs stays resident when I look in task manager. -- rme ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Mount SB2 upside down - rotate display text
robinbowes Wrote: > Gonk, > > That looks like a nice job, but I have to ask: why did you need to > mount it upside down? Why not just cut the keyholes in the top of the > SB and mount it right-way up? > > R. I will take a wild guess for him. It looks better his way. Also the top of the SB is not flat. So if you mounted it to a flat surface the SB would angle down. Nice work, looks very clean and takes up so little space in your kitchen. Question for you, how and where are you speakers mounted? -- m1abrams ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Received the Elpac power supply today
thanks for the info! I ordered one via the ebay auction. The seller has 4 more available apparently, via the same link. I'm curious whether it will effect the sound on the digital out. I currently have the digital out running into my Onkyo receiver, but that is likely a temporary arrangement. -- mkosma ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Artist/Artistsort tags not what is really needed
interesting idea. I never even knew about artistsort, probably because my collection was initially designed for use on Phatbox, and because it is about 50/50 flac and mp3. so, I have tagged all my artists (where appropriate) Last Name, First Name. Perfect for sort order, not so great for display (either when browsing or especially when playing). On the Phatbox (which has the cool feature of using AT&T Natural Voices to enable voice announcement of tracks), I wrote some perl code to flip around the artists with last-name-first before generating the voice via text-to-speech. Seems it would be straightforward to do something similar here -- set up a regexp table to map "LN, FN" artists to "FN LN". I'm not sure (1) *where* that belongs (plugin or basic feature, player or server); (2) how best to control it; or (3) whether it's possible to configure things so it applies only to the display-when-playing mode and not the search/browse modes. My first suggestion I think would be to create this as an alternate screensaver for the device. So when it goes into "Now Playing" mode, it comes up using the plugin that tweaks the artist name if necessary. -- mkosma ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to use FLAC?
Munge, Currently there is a bug with the SB2 using the Apple lossless. It cuts off the beginning of each songs slightly. Sometimes you will notice that by listening to the beginning of the songs but that's rare. The most problematic thing with that is when you are listening to a continuous live recording CDs or any continuous recordings, you will notice the gap between songs. It gives you slight clicking sound between the songs. I have a lot of Apple lossless files myself and I'm hoping that the issue will be solved soon. Best, Hiroyuki On Sep 19, 2005, at 8:58 AM, Munge wrote: I plan to get an SB2, use FLAC and then enjoy the music. But how do I actually use FLAC? I don't want to use the command line interface, and there must be a number of good FLAC interfaces out there. Which one should I use? I'm looking for a simple to use interface (encode to FLAC and get the tags). Or would the Apple lossless be an option? I plan to use an old Thinkpad 240 (300 MHz, 128 MB RAM, W2K) for the server. Would it manage to decode Apple lossless and then encode to FLAC on the fly? Any advice would be appreciated. Munge -- Munge ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Artist/Artistsort tags not what is really needed
On Monday 19 September 2005 14:21, JulianL wrote: > Please excuse the slightly provocative title for this thread. This is > definitely not me having a pop at the implementers, I am just hoping to > stimulate discussion or even better find that there is a feature already > in the software to do what I want. > > Now that I have my real SB2 up and running and have some experience of > real life use I am discovering something that isn't working as well as > I'd hoped. > > The way I tagged my collection was to put the "traditional" artist's > name in the Artist tag and then use Artistsort (I use FLAC) to get the > right sort order, so for instance I have an album with Artist tag "Iggy > and the Stooges" and Artistsort tag "Pop, Iggy". > > What I am finding with the above is that when I am browsing artists I > am seeing the Artist tag and my brain needs to (and fails to!) jump > around the artist name to get the correct order, i.e. as I browse > through the list it doesn't feel to me like it is in alphabetic order > because if a first name is in there (for instance) then it trips me up. > I think I underestimated the extent to which I used the physical cue > from the CD spines when I browsed my CDs in my CD racks. The end result > of this is that I find browsing my artists on the SB2 (or the Telcanto > client) is just nowhere near as easy as it was scanning my CD rack. > > One solution to the above would be to make all the Artist tags have > "normalised" values, i.e. implement the consistent naming scheme I > currently use for Artistsort (and hence be able to dispense with using > the Artistsort tag). This would mean that my Artist tags would look > consstent and genuinely alphabetic to my brain when I browse them. The > problem with this is that when I am playing an album then I want the > display name to say "Iggy and the Stooges" (for instance) and not "Pop, > Iggy". > > So, finally what I have come to is that for me what I really want in > the tags is not the ability to use Artistsort to override the Artist > tag sort order but rather the ability to have a tag like > ArtistDisplayName to override the Artist display name when a track is > playing (but _not_ when browsing). wouldn't it be much simpler to just add in an option that if a listing is using an XxxSort field then rather than showing Xxx, it would actually show the value of XxxSort? That way the listing would make sense to you and you wouldn't need to rekey all you data? Alex > Does this mechanism already exist in some way? If not then would it be > implementable and does anyone else agree with me that it would be a > good feature to have? Does anyone have any other suggestion as to how > to achieve what I want? > > - Julian ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: How to use FLAC?
> > > 1. Are you using the Mac platform exclusively? > > 2. Do you have a lot of Apple lossless already? > > 3. Do you want to keep your Apple lossless? > 1. No. PC only. 2. No 3. N/A It's just that I find iTunes easy to use, and I haven't seen anything else. -- Munge ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Artist/Artistsort tags not what is really needed
Please excuse the slightly provocative title for this thread. This is definitely not me having a pop at the implementers, I am just hoping to stimulate discussion or even better find that there is a feature already in the software to do what I want. Now that I have my real SB2 up and running and have some experience of real life use I am discovering something that isn't working as well as I'd hoped. The way I tagged my collection was to put the "traditional" artist's name in the Artist tag and then use Artistsort (I use FLAC) to get the right sort order, so for instance I have an album with Artist tag "Iggy and the Stooges" and Artistsort tag "Pop, Iggy". What I am finding with the above is that when I am browsing artists I am seeing the Artist tag and my brain needs to (and fails to!) jump around the artist name to get the correct order, i.e. as I browse through the list it doesn't feel to me like it is in alphabetic order because if a first name is in there (for instance) then it trips me up. I think I underestimated the extent to which I used the physical cue from the CD spines when I browsed my CDs in my CD racks. The end result of this is that I find browsing my artists on the SB2 (or the Telcanto client) is just nowhere near as easy as it was scanning my CD rack. One solution to the above would be to make all the Artist tags have "normalised" values, i.e. implement the consistent naming scheme I currently use for Artistsort (and hence be able to dispense with using the Artistsort tag). This would mean that my Artist tags would look consstent and genuinely alphabetic to my brain when I browse them. The problem with this is that when I am playing an album then I want the display name to say "Iggy and the Stooges" (for instance) and not "Pop, Iggy". So, finally what I have come to is that for me what I really want in the tags is not the ability to use Artistsort to override the Artist tag sort order but rather the ability to have a tag like ArtistDisplayName to override the Artist display name when a track is playing (but _not_ when browsing). Does this mechanism already exist in some way? If not then would it be implementable and does anyone else agree with me that it would be a good feature to have? Does anyone have any other suggestion as to how to achieve what I want? - Julian -- JulianL ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to use FLAC?
Munge wrote: I plan to get an SB2, use FLAC and then enjoy the music. But how do I actually use FLAC? I don't want to use the command line interface, and there must be a number of good FLAC interfaces out there. Which one should I use? I'm looking for a simple to use interface (encode to FLAC and get the tags). Or would the Apple lossless be an option? I plan to use an old Thinkpad 240 (300 MHz, 128 MB RAM, W2K) for the server. Would it manage to decode Apple lossless and then encode to FLAC on the fly? Any advice would be appreciated. Ok, some questions: 1. Are you using the Mac platform exclusively? 2. Do you have a lot of Apple lossless already? 3. Do you want to keep your Apple lossless? R. -- http://robinbowes.com If a man speaks in a forest, and his wife's not there, is he still wrong? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] How to use FLAC?
I plan to get an SB2, use FLAC and then enjoy the music. But how do I actually use FLAC? I don't want to use the command line interface, and there must be a number of good FLAC interfaces out there. Which one should I use? I'm looking for a simple to use interface (encode to FLAC and get the tags). Or would the Apple lossless be an option? I plan to use an old Thinkpad 240 (300 MHz, 128 MB RAM, W2K) for the server. Would it manage to decode Apple lossless and then encode to FLAC on the fly? Any advice would be appreciated. Munge -- Munge ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Mount SB2 upside down - rotate display text
Gonk, That looks like a nice job, but I have to ask: why did you need to mount it upside down? Why not just cut the keyholes in the top of the SB and mount it right-way up? R. -- robinbowes ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Mount SB2 upside down - rotate display text
Jeez Baka Beyond, I bet there's not many of us got that one ;-) Craig -- Craig ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Feature Request: Transferring active playlist
> Not sure if this is already possible, but I was unable to find a > method of transferring a currently playing playlist from my Slimp3 in > the kitchen, to my SB1 in the lounge, without forcing them both to be > synchronised. There's at least one plugin available which should do this: GrabPlaylist. http://www.slimdevices.com/dev_plugins.html -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: My ideal squeezebox
Philip Downer Wrote: > On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 19:00 +0200, Michael Herger wrote: > > > Nice job. Let's get someone to build a bunch of them! > > > > > > FrontPanelDesigner should now be called upon. Someone > > > want to see about a bulk discount? > > > > How do you connect all those fancy buttons to the SB? > > The Geekport? > > Phil. Seems the best way to handle the new design might be with a new design ;) I would think the front panel would comprise the set of buttons, volume control, and backlight, with another ribbon cable to the (new) printed circuit board (PCB). Add a little programmable logic device to the PCB (assuming the existing Xilinx device is full or pin-limited or just not desirable to change, otherwise this function can go there). The function could debounce the switch contacts, and interrupt the CPU on a button press. Multiple outstanding button presses could be saved, but I would think the CPU could service the requests fast enough. Info could be retrieved over a simple interface like I2C or SPI. It doesn't take much to do this. I would not be surprised to see a little part already available from Maxim/Dallas or Analog Devices which does button sampling already in an I2C-accessible device. -- Dave D ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Feature Request: Transferring active playlist
Not sure if this is already possible, but I was unable to find a method of transferring a currently playing playlist from my Slimp3 in the kitchen, to my SB1 in the lounge, without forcing them both to be synchronised. I.e. I was listening to a selected (and shuffled) playlist on one player, but then wanted to carry on listening from the current song on the other player, and selecting a different playlist on the first player. If I had just selected the same playlist, I would of course have ended up hearing loads of songs again from the new shuffle or the original playlist order, given it was shuffled before first use. Perhaps the ideal solution is that in the saved playlist menu, I should be able to select the name of the other player (without shuffle) and then I could manually select the current song entry number. Or is there a better (existing) way? Thanks, Pascal. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: My ideal squeezebox
On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 19:00 +0200, Michael Herger wrote: > > Nice job. Let's get someone to build a bunch of them! > > > > FrontPanelDesigner should now be called upon. Someone > > want to see about a bulk discount? > > How do you connect all those fancy buttons to the SB? The Geekport? Phil. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Uses composer when browsing artists
Sorry 6.1.1 not 5.1.1 No I have checked the tags with a couple of tag readers and there is no composer information in the artist category. Interestingly the composer information the squeezebox comes up with for songs isn't even the composer information in the tag for that song. I have cleared and rescanned the music library a couple of times, but this doesn't help. Richard -- Richard Adamson ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimDevices losing out in the UK
I don't read magazines much but I check online sources a lot. I used to check cnet and zdnet for reviews on the latest computer stuff. They've been fairly up-to-date on all sorts of gadgets, peripherals and things. But they have no review of the Squeezebox2. There's only the Squeezebox reviewed in April 2004. When compared to "most popular Digital Media Receivers": http://reviews.cnet.com/4540-6739_7-30600812-4.html?tag=tab On the otherhand, when the Soundbridge is compared to others the Squeezebox doesn't even show up: http://reviews.cnet.com/4540-6739_7-30794476-4.html?tag=tab Incidentally, if you search for "Roku" or "Soundbridge" on cnet or zdnet the Squeezebox shows up as a "sponsored match". At PC World, I can't find the Squeezebox (but the competitors are there): http://www.pcworld.com/ At PC Mag, the Squeezebox is there somewhere but it's not one of their top rated products: http://www.pcmag.com/category2/0,1874,924250,00.asp In my opinion, these are the places Average Joe will go to get help in making purchasing decisions. So this is all just for awareness in case someone wants to try and improve the situation. I think it would be nice if the Squeezebox had better visibility. -- Aylwin ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
