[slim] Re: Brand New Squeezebox v3 switching off after 30 seconds

2006-04-30 Thread candymanlux

Hi Peter,

that's exactly the problem I had :-) Due to the fact that the display
was lit when selecting the song, I didn't even think about the
brightness ... all seems to be working fine so far and I'm very happy
with my purchase.

If now I would know a bit about the life expectancy of the display I
could decide whether to leave a screensaver (clock) switch on when the
SB is off or better just have it on when really using it.

Anyway ... thanks for your reply.

Cheers,
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[slim] Re: Roku Soundbridge Radio Review

2006-04-30 Thread bpa

Roku are now working with an open Source server mtdaapd (iTunes
compatible) project and are adding a proprietary protocol to add more
functionality.  Also they are launching their own server Firefly which
I think will be uPNP with their own protocol addition.

It seems they have realised the shortcomings of the standard server
and that users want functionality.  

http://www.rokulabs.com/firefly


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Re: [slim] Re: Brand New Squeezebox v3 switching off after 30 seconds

2006-04-30 Thread kdf


On 30-Apr-06, at 12:10 AM, candymanlux wrote:


If now I would know a bit about the life expectancy of the display I
could decide whether to leave a screensaver (clock) switch on when the
SB is off or better just have it on when really using it.



The display is Vaccuum Flourescent, based on modules from Noritake.  
This technology is known to suffer from burn-in, but the lifetime is 
very long (long enough that I don't believe they even quote MTBF in the 
official specs).  The original Slim Devices product, SliMP3 has been in 
the field for years (5 I think?) using a Noritake Character display of 
the same technology.  Unit #1 is still running nicely.   There was a 
recent case brought up in the forum a while ago seemingly showing faded 
pixels.  The user was directed to slim devices support, and I'm not 
sure what happened from there.  Slimserver automatically scrolls long 
lines, and typical browsing should give you a long life.  It should not 
be necessary to have to worry about turning the display down to zero.


-kdf

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[slim] Re: SB2 as wireless bridge

2006-04-30 Thread docbee

Hi Nikhil,
please write a few words about how the SB compares to the ZP80 from
your point of view/experience. People like me just know the ZP80 from
the specs and the sonos forum. Would be great to listen to someone who
really owns both systems.


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[slim] Re: Squeezebox and ogg Vorbis?

2006-04-30 Thread verbatone

eq72521 Wrote: 
 When I purchased my first Squeezebox about 16 months ago, I myself was
 happy to find a product like it that dealt with Ogg in any manner; not
 many do.  Since then, I've decided to work on phasing Ogg out of my
 library.  Ogg is impressive and sounds much better to me than MP3 at
 any given bitrate, but nothing lossy is ever going to beat something
 lossless for sound quality.  Storage is cheap and only getting cheaper.
 For those reasons, I'm transitioning to FLAC (and I hope ripping all my
 stuff for the last damned time).  I think that SD saw these trends as
 well, which is why I think they went for native FLAC support and have
 native Ogg support way down on the priority list.  I love Ogg as much
 as the next slashdot reading geek, but I fear that its chances for mass
 acceptance may have passed.

While I almost 100% agree with you here, I think mobile devices will
still depend on lossy formats for at least another couple of years
until storage is large (in capacity), small (in size), and
inexpensive.

I also really like the ogg format.  For my iriver, I use ogg with
Rockbox and the format can almost not be beat.  My library at home for
the slimserver is APE, but I'd like to convert to FLAC for
foward/rewind capabilities except FLAC is roughly 5%-10% less
efficient.  I doubt I'll ever see native APE format.

I think the final days for lossy formats are numbered, but there still
is viability for the near term.  Also, when online retailers start
offering lossless audio content, the days of CDs will be over too.


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[slim] SoftSqueeze does not recognize Japanese

2006-04-30 Thread Asao Ishizuka
Hi! I found out that the softsqueeze_windows_with_jre_2_3.exe does not recognize the Japanese name of the Windows default audio device.Also, the SoftSqueeze launched from SlimServer does not have Preferences button.
Using Windows XP SP2 Japanese.asao ishizuka
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[slim] Re: Buffer drained, pausing playback

2006-04-30 Thread Triode

coldslabs Wrote: 
 Sigh. While composing this update I got another pause and then a
 fullstop. Buffer Fullness was reported as Low in the Network Health
 page (but that is kind of expected when it is stopped I suppose.).
 Help?

Could you leave the server running with network health enabled and
several songs playing, then post the graphs on the health player page
here after it has paused a couple of times.  [The summary section
doesn't give all the details of the graphs below]

Is the player wired now?  Is is a graphics display Squeezebox1 - if so
you can run the NetTest plugin on it to check the network performance
(see Wiki for diagnostics)


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[slim] Re: REQ: Help w/ SlimSoft

2006-04-30 Thread GrepZen

yes, softsqueeze is it exactly.  you were spot on w/ the fix as well..

HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/JavaSoft/Prefs/Com/Slim/SoftSqueeze

a pint for you sir!  and my many thanks!


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[slim] Re: SlimServer Stops

2006-04-30 Thread Siduhe

When you say shut off, have you checked that it isn't just the display
which has switched off ?  See this recent thread for example:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23397

HTH


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[slim] Re: SlimServer Stops

2006-04-30 Thread cmd_z

Hi- My problem definately isnt the screen display settings. It is
freezing after the initial track finishes.


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[slim] Pandora / Last.fm integration...

2006-04-30 Thread Siduhe

Has anyone else come across this ?

http://pandorafm.real-ity.com/

Appears to be an officially-Pandora-sanctioned way of getting the music
you stream from Pandora into your Last.fm account. 

Good for Pandora btw for recognising that co-operation is sometimes
better than competition, a very refreshing approach !  Works fine for
me for playing streams from the web interface. 

Any bright people got an idea what might be involved in doing the same
thing via the SB / Pandora plugin ?


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[slim] Re: qnap ts-101 question

2006-04-30 Thread Heuer

True - I meant to say materials cost i.e. a new hard disk required.


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[slim] Duplicating songs...restore earlier version?

2006-04-30 Thread SliminMass

Updated with the latest version of Slimserver and now throughout my
library, certain songs are being repeated in the album listings (it
seems rather random and NOT related to playlists - for example, of
three CDs ripped via ITunes yesterday, none of which are in playlists -
only one did not have duplicate tracks).  Checking my iTunes library
shows a correct rip of the CD.  The problem seems to be with the
Slimserver itself.  

Any suggestions on how to cure this?

Failing which, can I restore to an earlier version of Slimserver that
does not have this bug - I don't necessarily need all the latest bells
and whistles (Internet radio etc.) so I can live with that.  Where do I
find old versions of Slimserver and are these downloadable to replace
this latest (buggy) version?

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[slim] Re: Roku and SB synchronization

2006-04-30 Thread krosfyah

I don't use wireless ...too unreliable.  All the SB's are 100baseT and
are virtually flawless.

The problem with putting in a delay is what happens when you are
walking between rooms?  How do you know which one is the nearest one
if you are walking about?  I'm very happy with my current syncing
situation.


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[slim] Re: slimp3 remote control acting up

2006-04-30 Thread rgduarte

I still haven't figured out why my first generation slimp3 won't respond
to the remote control. 
Does anyone know how I could confirm that the signals are in fact being
received by slimserver? That way I could narrow down the problem
somehow.
-rgduarte


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[slim] FC5 x86_64: Still having trouble getting SlimServer to start

2006-04-30 Thread Michael Haan

# ./slimserver.pl
2006-04-30 09:22:20.2656 DBD::SQLite::db tables failed: not an error(21) at 
dbdimp.c line 398 at /usr/local/slimserver/Slim/DataStores/DBI/DataModel.pm 
line 209.
DBD::SQLite::db tables failed: not an error(21) at dbdimp.c line 398 at 
/usr/local/slimserver/Slim/DataStores/DBI/DataModel.pm line 209.

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[slim] Re: Anybody else a member of la la ?

2006-04-30 Thread chaz

I've been a member for a month or so.  Mostly my experience has been
positive, but it will be interesting to see how it goes when it's out
of beta and the uncivilized masses are able to join.


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[slim] Re: slimp3 remote control acting up

2006-04-30 Thread GrepZen

1) dodgy remote performance is often...overlooked but simple... check
the batteries in the remote.

2) You can confirm that the remote is SENDING IR. Every CCD camera
picks up IR.  You might have a camera/phone. If so, point the remote to
the camera's lense in a dark room and press buttons.  On the camera's
display, you should see the LED of  your remote lighting up.

--I don't know if log entries are made when IR is recieved but that's a
start.. turn on verbose logging and start checking.

home | server settings | debugging | d_ir  ; [x] [Change]


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[slim] Re: Squeezebox and ogg Vorbis?

2006-04-30 Thread Chris OH

verbatone Wrote: 
  Also, when online retailers start offering lossless audio content, the
 days of CDs will be over too.

Check out allofmp3.com for lossless downloads


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[slim] Re: slimp3 remote control acting up

2006-04-30 Thread rgduarte

Thanks, Micke.

I've already put in fresh batteries and, with a camcorder, confirmed
the remote is emitting something.

And now as you and another poster suggested
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=11685), I've turned on
d_ir debugging and get absolutely nothing in log. I've tried using the
slimp3 remote and some other non-slimp3 remote and nothing at all comes
out in the log.

So...

1. I therefore conclude it's the IR receiver. If it is the receiver can
it be fixed?

2. Am I rushing to conclusions here? The other post I read says ANY IR
remote should register in the log with d_ir on. Is that correct?

Thanks for any help.

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[slim] Re: Roku Soundbridge Radio Review

2006-04-30 Thread Mark Lanctot

radish Wrote: 
 UPnP is pretty basic

Not only is it basic, it's a security hole:

http://www.grc.com/unpnp/unpnp.htm

It's been broken since December 2001.

Also Roku's products now all upsample to 48 kHz.  This would include
the radio (not in radio mode of course, in server playback mode).

And based on how rabid Apple is about intellectual property, being able
to use iTunes certainly doesn't make a product more attractive to me. 
Alternate servers are nice though and SlimServer has several!  (Moose,
SlimRemote, SlightServer, WinSlim etc.)


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[slim] Re: Roku and SB synchronization

2006-04-30 Thread Michaelwagner

In fact, the solution suggested only works if there's only one
listener.

In a mass audience situation, you have to maintain directional
coherence and make the entire air mass move as one. Meaning all the
speakers have to be pointing more or less the same way. It only has
much of a chance of working in a stadium or something like that, an
open air concert or so.

Almost impossible to do in a house.

And yes, he wrote it backwards. I'm sure it was a slip of the lip.


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[slim] Re: slimp3 remote control acting up

2006-04-30 Thread Mark Lanctot

Check that SlimServer - Player Settings - Remote - jvc_dvd is checked.


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RE: [slim] Re: FC5 x86_64: Still having trouble getting SlimServer tostart

2006-04-30 Thread Michael Haan



That's a familiar one.

This is better discussed in the UNIX conference ...

See:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23258

for details to your problem ...

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That did the trick.  To summarize, build DBD::SqlLite from CPAN, rename the 
one distributed with SlimServer, restart SlimServer.



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[slim] 6.5 new install, new issue

2006-04-30 Thread Michael Haan
Just installed 6.5 on FC5 x86_64.  Replaced DBD::SqlLite with the one from 
CPAN and got SlimServer running.  Now, when I fire-up any web interface, it 
dies.  Any ideas?



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[slim] Re: Anybody else a member of la la ?

2006-04-30 Thread eq72521

From http://lala.com/frontend/action/aboutlala:

 I ask you to do your part by doing the right thing: remove songs from
 your iPod or PC if you've agreed to send the CD to another member.

It's a nice thought and probably a necessary attempt to cover their
nearly naked asses, but I think this is some very wishful thinking.


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[slim] Q: Default Player

2006-04-30 Thread GrepZen

I've got three players:
Livingroom is an SB3 in my living room
TRF.Home is an SB3 at a friend's house
nmci-micke is a SoftSqueeze at work.

When I'm mucking about w/ playlists and various settings, I loginto
http://myservername:9000 and notice that TRF.Home is always the
selected player.  

And the question:

1) How is the default player chosen? 
2) Do I have any control over this?  I might prefer Livingroom since it
is by far the 'most' connected player (it's at home.. via wifi) where
the other two are located outside my LAN and must be 'routed' in.

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[slim] Re: Synchronization of Soft Squeeze 2.3 with Slim Server 6.2.2

2006-04-30 Thread tharrison

To my delight, I have found that SoftSqueeze and my SqueezeBox are now
in sync.

Two things I did:
1) Upgrade the server (to 6.2.2) and softsqueeze (to 2.3)
2) Install the Java MP3 files (Java Media Framework was needed to make
it work for me)

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[slim] SoftSqueeze as default media player?

2006-04-30 Thread tharrison

Can anyone point me to info on how to make SoftSqueeze the default media
player for WinXP?

In particular, my keyboard has media control buttons (play/pause, stop,
FF, volume, etc.) and I would like for them to launch and control
softsqueze instead of Windows Media Player.

TIA --

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[slim] Re: Synchronized Players Out of Sync

2006-04-30 Thread tharrison

The SlimServer 6.2.2 and SoftSqueeze 2.3 updates resolved my sync
issues.  Thanks all!!


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[slim] SlimDevices Squeezebox 2/3 and Sonos ZP80

2006-04-30 Thread Nikhil

Over the past couple of days, I have had a chance to test the Sonos ZP80
(the model with the digital outputs and minus the amplifier) alongside
my trusty SB2 – which I have been using for close to a year now. I
thought my experience would be of interest to both SqueezeBox and Sonos
users / prospective users, so I am placing it on both forums.

Right off the bat, I would like to say that both products are excellent
and very well thought out. It is hard to go wrong with either of them. 

A] Ease of setup: If you are using a Windows PC or a Mac to store your
music files, the setup process is fairly simple with both systems. For
users who are unfamiliar with firewall settings and the likes, the
Sonos installer actually walks you through the process, so it is a
little easier.  The Sonos hardware, which uses its own secure p2p mesh
network, installs itself simply by following instructions to press 2
buttons on the box when asked. For the SqueezeBox, which in wireless
mode uses your existing network, you have to manually enter information
like SSID, WPA or WEP information, etc. If you are running Linux or some
other flavour of UNIX, then setup is simpler with Slimserver (there is
currently no Linux Setup software for Sonos, but there are workarounds,
and also you only need the setup software once to point the Sonos system
to the music – so you might be able to borrow someone’s laptop for
that). 

The preferred mode of use for me, however, is to have all my music
stored on a standalone NAS; this is where the Sonos, with its ability
to directly access SMB shares, shines.  Of course, it is possible to
hack your NAS to run Slimserver, like I have done with my Buffalo
Linkstation. While it works wonderfully for me, I don’t think my
grandparents or parents could have or would have had the patience to do
the same.  Where the Sonos falls short for me is that it requires at
least one zone player to be directly connected via Ethernet, unlike the
SqueezeBoxen, that can directly utilize your existing Wi-Fi setup. This
defeats the purpose of storing the relatively noisy NAS far away from
the stereo.  However, this will not be a problem for someone who has an
Ethernet wired home, or who can afford to buy another zone player simply
for this purpose – perhaps Sonos should offer a zone bridge for
significantly cheaper than their Zone Players. Another option is to use
a wireless bridge – for testing purposes I am actually using the SB2 as
a wireless bridge. However this mode of use is unsupported by Sonos,
and I have noticed several dropouts in audio in this mode. 

Overall in terms of ease of setup, I would give the Sonos the
advantage.


B] Audio quality:  This is the area that was most important to me.
While my stereo may not be considered audiophile, my Cyrus 8 integrated
amp + PSX-R power supply with Dynaudio Audience 52SEs are no slouches
either.  In other threads I have talked about how the SB2, when paired
with the Cyrus DAC-X DA converter, is barely distinguishable from my
Cyrus CD8 + PSR-X power supply paired with the same DAC. What
pleasantly surprised me was the quality of the Sonos machine both
through the digital outputs as well as the analogue outputs. The SB2
running through the DAC-X provides clean open sound with punchy bass
and wonderful stereo imaging.  The ZP80 through the same DAC is very
close, if not as quite good – I can’t really put my finger on what is
different though, I think it depends on the music you are listening to,
for some pieces there is a clear difference on others there isn’t. I
have not done sufficient testing with the analogue outputs, but my
initial impressions were that the sound was a little muddier and less
defined on the analogue outputs of the ZP80, but still excellent. A lot
has been talked about the internal DACs on the SB2, but those on the
ZP80 aren’t terrible either. FWIW, I am using a linear PSU with my SB2
– a piece that I fortuitously found lying unused at work. Also all the
music files are EAC+AccurateRip extracted FLACs.

If I had to rate the audio quality of my components from good to
better, it would go in this order:
1) ZP80 analogue
2) SB2 analogue
3) ZP80 with Cyrus DAC-X
4) SB2 with Cyrus DAC-X
5) Cyrus CD8
6) Cyrus CD8 + DAC-X

Advantage, SqueezeBox, but only just.

C] Remote control: A lot has been talked about the superiority of the
Sonos handheld controller over the SqueezeBox remote. I have to confess
that I actually like the SqueezeBox remote a lot. I think the keys are
well laid out, and as long as I can easily see the nice VFD screen on
the SB2, I don’t need to have a display on the remote. This works well
for me in my bedroom, but I can see the need for more information on
the controller if you are in a larger space or at a greater distance
from the device. In that case the Sonos controller would win hands
down.  I would like to point out that, as elegant as this controller
is, it still lacks the high quality feel of a new iPod, and the wheel
could do with 

Re: [slim] 6.5 new install, new issue

2006-04-30 Thread kdf


On 30-Apr-06, at 9:02 AM, Michael Haan wrote:

Just installed 6.5 on FC5 x86_64.  Replaced DBD::SqlLite with the one 
from CPAN and got SlimServer running.  Now, when I fire-up any web 
interface, it dies.  Any ideas?



not without details from the console window or the log.
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[slim] Re: Roku Soundbridge Radio Review

2006-04-30 Thread dyohn

Two reasons why I chose a Squeezebox 3 over the Roku 1000: the
Squeezebox includes a far better built-in DAC, and the display is much
easier to read from across the room.  Plus the design of the SB3 is
aesthetically simply beautiful... oh, and it includes built-in Pandora
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[slim] xAP slimserver connector ?

2006-04-30 Thread i2ben

I plan to use my squeezebox3 with XAP to communicate with homeseer and
other home automation devices and software.
I have read a lot about xAP slimserver connector but
http://www.xapframework.net/ is down and i can't find files anywhere.
Does anybody use it and can help me, and post or send this connector?
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[slim] Re: SoftSqueeze as default media player?

2006-04-30 Thread Mark Lanctot

This might be tricky - keep in mind SoftSqueeze only accepts media
streams from SlimServer.  It isn't general purpose audio playback
software like WMP, Winamp or foobar2000.  You can't use it to play MP3s
directly or Windows system sounds.

I believe there is some compatibility with multimedia keyboard
shortcuts in the latest version though?


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[slim] Re: SoftSqueeze as default media player?

2006-04-30 Thread tharrison

Mark Lanctot Wrote: 
 This might be tricky - keep in mind SoftSqueeze only accepts media
 streams from SlimServer.  It isn't general purpose audio playback
 software like WMP, Winamp or foobar2000.  You can't use it to play MP3s
 directly or Windows system sounds.
 
 I believe there is some compatibility with multimedia keyboard
 shortcuts in the latest version though?

Thanks for the reply!  I looked in Preferences in 2.3 and didn't see
anything about multimedia keyboards.  Arrow keys and letter-number keys
work as they do for the hard remote -- perhaps that's what's new.

Nirvana is elusive indeed :-)

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[slim] Re: Q: Default Player

2006-04-30 Thread danco

I have bookmarked
http://localhost:9000/index.html?player=00:04:20:05:aa:a2

The bit after player= is the MAC address of my main Squeezebox.

There are other similar approaches that work.


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Re: [slim] Re: Q: Default Player

2006-04-30 Thread kdf


On 30-Apr-06, at 11:34 AM, danco wrote:



I have bookmarked
http://localhost:9000/index.html?player=00:04:20:05:aa:a2

The bit after player= is the MAC address of my main Squeezebox.

which, if you don't already know, can be found on the bottom of  each 
squeezebox.


Most skins will choose the player by alphabetical order.  The Fishbone 
skin is an exception, tracking the last selected player as a cookie and 
returning to that on each reload until another player is selected from 
the menu.

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[slim] Re: Synchronization of Soft Squeeze 2.3 with Slim Server 6.2.2

2006-04-30 Thread Zten

I have SoftSqueeze 2.3, SlimServer 6.2.2, and I just downloaded Java
Media Framework (I previously did not have this...) SB is still not
synched with Soft Squeeze. Is there something I need to do specifically
with JMF or do I just need to have it installed on my machine?

I have tried both FLAC and MP3, but soft squeeze still LEADS the
Squeeze box by more than a second. Any other ideas?


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[slim] Mac Slimserver more resource hungry than Windows?

2006-04-30 Thread mmcguff

My Win 2000 server died the other day.  I COULD fix it, but I have been
looking for an excuse to move to a Mac Mini (Intel, dual core) for my
server, so this seemed like a good time to do that.  So, to test things
out, I installed Slimserver on my Powerbook (1.25 GHz G4, 1.5 Gb).  I
had been using 6.5 on Windows, so I went with that for the Mac.  Under
Windows (2 GHz Athlon, 512 Meg), I wasn't having any real problems with
dropouts.  On my Powerbook, I have been having constant dropouts.  Since
both servers were wired, wireless reception should be identical.  It
will play a track or so, then it will just play a fraction of a second
and then freeze for 10-30 secodns, then play another fraction, etc. 
During this time, response to the remote control is glacial, at best. 
(Oddly enough, even after power off, it continues to play for another
stutter or two.)  So, this brings up a few questions:

1)  Is this NORMAL on a Mac?  If not (hopefully), does anyone have any
ideas what is going on here?  Further system details:  

Streaming from 4/29 nightly of 6.5 (also tried 6/22, I think) to one
SB2 and one SB3.  Same problems on each.  Internet radio works fine,
but streaming AIFF (like WAV) files has the problem.  OS X 10.4.6.

The activity monitor shows perl pegged between 50-80% pretty
consistently with NOTHING being streamed.  It appears to have finished
rescanning my library (6000 traks on external Firewire drive, though
same problems with network monted Terastation), so I have no idea what
it is doing; there isn't even any web server access.  If I have other
resource hungry apps running, the stuttering just fades away into no
sound at all.  I don't see anything unusual in the log.

2)  How do you downgrade to an earlier version on the Mac?  I tried
just deleting the prefpane (in /Library), but when I tried installing
an earlier 6.3, the server would never start.  When I replaced that
with the 6.5 install, it at least started again.  I imagine there must
be something else I have to delete, but I'm not knowledgeable enough
about the Mac Slimserver to know what.

3)  So, are the new Intel Mac Minis (with lots of memory) going to be
signficantly more capable than my Powerbook for this?  I would like to
be able to use it as both a server and my desktop machine (web, email,
Dreamweaver, no fancy graphics) without things bogging down.

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[slim] Re: Slimserver No Album No Artist

2006-04-30 Thread jimbres

Let me chime in  say that I'm experiencing the same problem with 2 of
my CDs that I ripped to MP3s using EAC. I'm a Slimserver / Squeezebox
newbie, but I've been using EAC for years,  Slimserver has had no
trouble with most of my MP3s.

Here's a file name that Slimserver seems to be choking on: 

Duke Ellington Orchestra - Music Is My Mistress - Disc 1 - Sweet
Georgia Brown - 08

I don't see anything funky here, but if anyone does, please speak up.


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[slim] Re: Q: Default Player

2006-04-30 Thread GrepZen

Danco: thanks! that's brilliant!
kdf: I'm not seeing that to be the case. On the default SlimServer
skin, the order is no particular

but it looks like that URL is right on time.

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[slim] Re: SoftSqueeze as default media player?

2006-04-30 Thread Mark Lanctot

Whoops - I just remembered it was Moose and not SoftSqueeze that added
multimedia keyboard support.  Sorry.


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[slim] Re: Mac Slimserver more resource hungry than Windows?

2006-04-30 Thread danco

I don't know the cause of your main problem, if it's not scanning your
music files. But could do no harm to be sure your Web browser is not
looking at the Squeezebox page.

As regards downgrading, I think there is a difference in the database
file. Im addition to deleting the preference pane, you should probably
delete the SlimServer preferences (this may not be needed) in the
Preferences section of your Library at com.slimdevices.slim.plist. and
the database at silimserversql.db in the SlimServer section of the
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[slim] 6.3 nightly shoutCast

2006-04-30 Thread DrNic

Hi
Does the latest nightly have the fix for the shoutCast plugin in it?
Is there anything else updated/added/fixed in these nightlies?

thanks

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[slim] Re: Buffer drained, pausing playback

2006-04-30 Thread coldslabs

Triode Wrote: 
 Could you leave the server running with network health enabled and
 several songs playing, then post the graphs on the health player page
 here after it has paused a couple of times.  [The summary section
 doesn't give all the details of the graphs below]
 
 Is the player wired now?  Is is a graphics display Squeezebox1 - if so
 you can run the NetTest plugin on it to check the network performance
 (see Wiki for diagnostics)

The player is currently wired.

Attached is the Network Health output after about 4 pauses in a 3 hour
period (pretty good, at least compared to last night where is was
happening much more often. Nothing changed in my setup since last
night. I even played two of the same albums. I didn't even reboot the
machine.). 

I used the NetTest plugin at 192kbps (what most of my music is ripped
at) for 45 minutes. The average reading was 98%.

Thanks for your help Triode. Hopefully this will shed some light on the
matter.


+---+
|Filename: NetworkHealthOutput.txt  |
|Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1270|
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[slim] Re: Buffer drained, pausing playback

2006-04-30 Thread Triode

coldslabs Wrote: 
 I used the NetTest plugin at 192kbps (what most of my music is ripped
 at) for 45 minutes. The average reading was 98%.
I would hope this would state 100%.  During this time did the
instantaneous value drop below 100%?  Less than 100% at slightly higher
than your desired rate is likely to be a problem.  [NB there is some
overhead in the streaming protocol.]  This should not be a problem when
wired but best to be sure of this first.

The Server Response Time graph is the one that matters - your results
look normal, but there are 7 times when the server took between 1 and 5
seconds to respond and 1 time when it took more than 5 seconds.  It may
be worth zeroing the counters and watching this to see.  However server
does look healthy for all other measurements.


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[slim] How much longer for a really slim SlimServer?

2006-04-30 Thread nicketynick

Slim Devices has been absolutely brilliant with the ultimate Slim client
(Squeezebox), I'm wondering how much longer until somebody turns their
attention to a truly slim SlimServer appliance.  The QNAP thingy is
close, but they still sell you the storage, and don't provide an
open-source interface.  The NSLU2/Kurobox set-up is slightly
underpowered and _way_ too hacker-centric.  What I'm thinking is, the
'home PC' as we know it today won't be here in 5 (3?) years; everything
will be an 'appliance'*.Your TB of tunes will not likely be stuck on
a mechanical go-round thing either.  So, is there some technical
limitation I don't understand that is preventing somebody from putting
together a 'slim device' with an HTTP interface (like a router), with a
UI that allows for upgrading of the code/plugins, etc just like we do
now? Storage would easily interface via USB (or whatever comes next).
So I guess the questions are: a) can it be done? and b) how much longer
until it is?

Nick

*handheld email/internet, game console, etc.  The PC will truly become
nothing more than 'office equipment', and how many people _really_ have
a home office?

ps Hey it is Slim Device_s_ Inc. - they really should have more than
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[slim] Re: How much longer for a really slim SlimServer?

2006-04-30 Thread Mark Lanctot

I would think the main thing holding this back is market forces. 
Progressive seems to be doing well with the Qnap, but it is a gamble.

I'd think it would be fun to start my own business with something like
that, but it requires a lot of startup capital and it's easier said
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[slim] Re: Mac Slimserver more resource hungry than Windows?

2006-04-30 Thread radish

Is it reading/updating iTunes?


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[slim] Re: How much longer for a really slim SlimServer?

2006-04-30 Thread nicketynick

Good point! But for a company that has already invested a tidy sum in
creating a market, it seems like a rather natural extension, doesn't
it?  I noticed that Sonos is now available at Future Shop - can you
imagine all the folks who will drop the cash without really knowing
what they're buying, or what the alternatives might be?  I just think
that our favourite company is soon going to have a deep enough market
penetration (I know that everybody who sees my SB says wow, I didn't
know you could do that - cool!) that folks will be clamouring for new
hardware from them - I just thought I'd be among the first to suggest
that a 'slim' server would be ideal.  I know I am sure having a hard
time justifying a PC purchase in order to have a dedicated server!  I
would even pay a premium for 'slim', rather than have a dedicated PC,
especially since quiet (silent?) is an important consideration for me.


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[slim] Re: Roku Soundbridge Radio Review

2006-04-30 Thread tamanaco

Keeping up with the Joneses... Competition is a good thing. This can
only help keep Slim Devices on their toes. Last time I looked at the
Roku player it was at the same level as the SBv1.


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[slim] squeezeboxes flying off the shelves?

2006-04-30 Thread opaqueice

In the two months I've owned a SB3, four friends have bought one as a
direct consequence of seeing mine.  The thing is so obviously a great
idea, works so well, sounds so good, and looks so nice, it just sells
itself.  I'll probably buy another one for my office soon, where even
more people will see it.

Have others had the same experience?  If so, I suggest buying stock in
slimdevices, as this is an exponential process...


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[slim] Re: How much longer for a really slim SlimServer?

2006-04-30 Thread opaqueice

My girlfriend really loves my squeezebox (is it just me, or does that
sentence sound a little strange?), but she doesn't have a PC at home. 
She has a laptop, but sometimes it stays at the office.  

So she's thinking of buying a desktop for home just so she can buy a SB
as well, which is really kind of overkill... so slim devices, get on the
ball - we need some squeezestorage!


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[slim] Re: Problem: Can't open file for:

2006-04-30 Thread patrickregan

I just discovered this same issue on my squeezbox3.  I did the clear 
rescan and that didn't fix it.  Does anyone have an update on this
problem since the last post?  I really don't want to go through my
library and start moving files around and rescan 3 times.

-Patrick


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[slim] Re: squeezeboxes flying off the shelves?

2006-04-30 Thread snarlydwarf

I've only convinced one cow-orker to get a pair of SB3's: seems the
others I've talked to either listen to music rarely, or they like the
iPod... (no, I don't get it either).

Of course, since my employer's main business is TV... that may be why. 
I'm the freak that left the TV off for 10 years.


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[slim] Re: How much longer for a really slim SlimServer?

2006-04-30 Thread Wirrunna

Interesting points, as a first stage perhaps the community could specify
the hardware for a server - chip, motherboard, hard disks, leave the
case up to the builder and prepare a LINUX distribution that would
install as a Slim SlimServer without the builder having to know a thing
about LINUX.

Is this being too simple ? 
Or could a low end Dell server be chosen and a LINUX distribution
built? Or could the LINUX build handle a wide range of hardware?
Probably like others, I have ended up with a server dedicated to
SlimServer running WinXP because I know nothing about LINUX.


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[slim] Re: squeezeboxes flying off the shelves?

2006-04-30 Thread opaqueice

snarlydwarf Wrote: 
 
 Of course, since my employer's main business is TV... that may be why. 
 I'm the freak that left the TV off for 10 years.

I don't have one, and I also worked (briefly) in the TV industry. 
Maybe there's a pattern there...


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[slim] Re: How much longer for a really slim SlimServer?

2006-04-30 Thread opaqueice

Why not just have an external HD that the SB can plug into directly?  If
it has a USB/firewire connection, you could load music onto it that way,
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[slim] Re: 6.2.2 does not start

2006-04-30 Thread wat

Though the fact that you were able to start the server at all would
indicate it is not the same problem (I could not), check the event log
on your PC and refer to this bug I submitted.

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3349


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[slim] Re: How much longer for a really slim SlimServer?

2006-04-30 Thread nicketynick

opaqueice Wrote: 
 Why not just have an external HD that the SB can plug into directly?  If
 it has a USB/firewire connection, you could load music onto it that way,
 or maybe also over the net.

Well, if you're going to have more than one SB (we've already agreed on
a 2nd, and I might even be able to wiggle a 3rd!), you want the storage
central, with your network switch/router, never mind the WAF issues.  
USB external drives are pretty ubiquitous these days - a slim device
with 'adequate' processor (certainly less than GHz), USB interface, and
LINUX OS like wirruna describes would be ideal.
(Isn't this pretty much just a hopped up NSLU2, with a built-in
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Re: [slim] 6.5 new install, new issue

2006-04-30 Thread Michael Haan

Was trying to find the log - where is it?


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[slim] Re: squeezeboxes flying off the shelves?

2006-04-30 Thread nicketynick

People look at us like we each have 3 heads when we explain we haven't a
clue what they're talking about (did you see?) because we don't
watch TV!  They can't imagine why anyone would prefer to R E A D..
- very enjoyable with background music, IMO!


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[slim] Re: squeezeboxes flying off the shelves?

2006-04-30 Thread ChrisNY

I've got one co-worker who has it at the top of his Chanukah list for
next year...

Unfortunately, most of the people I've tried to share my Squeezebox
excitement with don't really get it.  My wife has admitted that she's
a convert now that she's been using it for a while.  Most folks politely
say Oh, that sounds pretty interesting and then change the
subject...Even when I tell them its Open Source and constantly
evolving!   Ah well, at least I have the forums here to converse with
like minded folk.

-Chris


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[slim] Re: squeezeboxes flying off the shelves?

2006-04-30 Thread nicketynick

It's all in the test-drive.  People don't realize how great it is until
they sit there with an entire collection at their fingertips.  And the
SB remote is one of Slim Devices great breakthroughs - _everyone_ knows
how to interact with a remote!


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[slim] Re: How much longer for a really slim SlimServer?

2006-04-30 Thread bigjules

I'm an IT geek.. and have slim running on my server at home (yes I
really do have a home office).  Also comfortable fiddling with things.

but if there was one, I would buy a NAS product from slim devices that
ran slimserver properly and didn't require fiddling.


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[slim] Re: Mac Slimserver more resource hungry than Windows?

2006-04-30 Thread mmcguff

radish Wrote: 
 Is it reading/updating iTunes?

No, I actually have iTunes sync turned off entirely.  

danco Wrote: 
 As regards downgrading, I think there is a difference in the database
 file. Im addition to deleting the preference pane, you should probably
 delete the SlimServer preferences (this may not be needed) in the
 Preferences section of your Library at com.slimdevices.slim.plist. and
 the database at silimserversql.db in the SlimServer section of the
 Caches.

Thanks.  I just tried that, but the server still won't start if I load
6.3 (the log has lots of Compilation failed at require in... in it). 
If I reload 6.5, it will load.  At first, CPU usage isn't too bad;
however, once I start playing a track, it goes in and starts sucking up
all the remaining CPU time and skipping.  Sigh...


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[slim] Re: Problem: Can't open file for:

2006-04-30 Thread patrickregan

slayaz Wrote: 
 thanks for that link, it did  shed some light.
 
 It might a bug that has crept back into 6.2.2 as it was definitely OK
 in 6.2.1.
 
 Maybe I'll downgrade..
 
 Although didn't i need 6.2.2 for Pandora
 
 Oh well.


Where can I download version 6.2.1?  I'd give up Pandora to be able to
play these .m4p files from allofmp3.com.


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[slim] Re: How much longer for a really slim SlimServer?

2006-04-30 Thread Mark Lanctot

nicketynick Wrote: 
 I noticed that Sonos is now available at Future Shop - can you imagine
 all the folks who will drop the cash without really knowing what
 they're buying, or what the alternatives might be?

LOL!  They selling these next to the $90 Quest receivers?!?


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Re: [slim] Re: squeezeboxes flying off the shelves?

2006-04-30 Thread dijon
mine is locked in a closet where no one can see it. people always ask me how
it is that my home is always filled with wonderful music and they never see
me change cd's. my response is always a shrug. i don't want anyone to know
about squeezeboxes or slimserver. if they did, they'd be as cool as i am.
and i can't have that. no, that won't do at all.

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 Most people I talk to don't get it.

 One is interested, another one calls it an MP3 player.


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[slim] Random acts of blankness

2006-04-30 Thread sayonaraML

So today I added some new music to iTunes and thought I'd update the
SimServer to listen to some tunes. After 20 minutes or so I went over
to my home computer and yes, the playlists were all there but they were
all empty (I had asked the server to update playlists since I am using
iTunes and playlists within iTunes). I then tried to check for new or
changed music and got the same thing. So I then tried to update
everything and got 900 empty playlists. This stuff seems to happen
every once and a while and always if I want to listen to updated musoc
before going to bed so it doesn't make me as crazy as it used to but
why would the server show a new playlist albeit empty? It's picking up
one of the pieces of information but why not all of the information?
How long should it take to rescan a 900 playlist library on a Mac
running 10.4.6, wireless network, plenty of RAM?


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