[slim] Re: slimserver installation on ubuntu 6.06

2006-10-02 Thread thoeng

Er .. how do i download the package mate ?? it seems no links link to
the file


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[slim] Re: slimserver installation on ubuntu 6.06

2006-10-02 Thread tyler_durden

You must follow the instructions here:

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?DebianPackage

There are .deb packages for i386 and AMD64 linux.  I have personal
experience with the AMD64 package- it works.

TD


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[slim] Re: Duplicate Albums

2006-10-02 Thread slimpy

Have a close look at the file path on the song info page for both the
entry from the playlist and the library. Do they differ in any way?

-s.


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Re: [slim] Re: Always fails to connect after shutting down server computer

2006-10-02 Thread Robin Bowes
Bruce S. wrote:
 Nope. Note above that I do not have the luxury of 4 ports. But it
 appears that I may have two not just the one. One for the cable modem
 (phone line) going in and one going from the router to the machine on
 which my slim server is running.

Get yourself an ethernet switch.

connect it up like this:

phone -- modem -- switch
|
+-- PC
|
+-- SB


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[slim] Squeezeslave and Slimserver 6.5

2006-10-02 Thread Lars Chr. Hausmann
Hi, 

After upgrading Slimserver to 6.5 (latest stable) squeezeslave no
longer works. It starts but nothing happens. I can see, that the
slimserver sees it, because it shows up in the web interface, but
adding music to it does not trigger any music being played. 

Does any body see similar behavior? 

I am running Slimserver and softsqueeze on Debian stable and unstable
both has the same behaveior. 

Best regards,

Lars Chr. 
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[slim] Re: Sonos-like remote?

2006-10-02 Thread gorman

Balthazar_B;141877 Wrote: 
 Let's put it this way: if Apple had released the iPod with a web
 interface for navigation instead of the simple but brilliant wheel
 mechanism, it would have flopped in the marketplace (I suppose one
 could say the Newton was the original flop).  SanDisk, Creative, et al.
 have pretty decent navigation mechanisms as well.  A small device (as a
 remote should be) whose essential function is navigation really needs
 something like this, and IMHO that's one of the strongest points about
 the Sonos (despite that the remote could still stand improvement). 
 Messing with a web interface compared with a device where hardware and
 firmware are well-matched will almost always be a poorer user
 experience.There we go, you managed to explain it better than I could (and I 
 surely
don't love Apple, btw).

Regarding the price, yes, it's expensive but... is it more expensive
than buying a dedicated amp, quality speakers, thousands of CDs? No
compared to all of that it would still be cheaper. And yes, I, too,
would spend $300 for it. My initial price point was just to make it
clear that I didn't want something cheap.


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[slim] Re: Zone control on Squeezebox or Transporter?

2006-10-02 Thread gorman

Pat Farrell;141722 Wrote: 
 
 With my SqueezeBoxes and SlimServer, I can play the same music in many
 
 rooms or different music in each.I have one SB2 on Ethernet and one SB1 on 
 WiFi G and no, they don't stay
in synch. As in rarely they are in synch after a couple of songs.


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[slim] Radio URL needs synchronized SoftSqueeze to play.

2006-10-02 Thread bbpbbp

Hi Community. I am new to post on this community, although I have had my
Squeezeboks for 6 months or so now. It is fantastic and through the
whole period I have found only one strange thing that I cannot get to
work properly. Here is my problem.

I had a friend coming over all the way from Turkey, and she gave me a
tip regarding a radio station called Lounge 102. (www.loungefm.net)
When I got there I found this link
http://www.loungefm.net/lounge_fm_2006.asf to the radiostream. Here the
strange thing begins. I can easily play this on my computer, in any
audio players, but I cannot access it directly from my Squeezebox. What
is even stranger is that if I start up a synchronized Softsqueeze on my
computer I can access this stream both from my Softsqueeze and from my
Squeezebox directly. So in order to initiate this stream from my
Squeezebox I need to have an instance of Softsqueeze running on my
computer. If I do not have a Softsqueeze running it does not manage to
connect. I have not seen this with any other radioURLs.

I have searched the forum for an answer to this question, but I have
not found anything on this Have any of you seen this before?

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[slim] Re: Radio URL needs synchronized SoftSqueeze to play.

2006-10-02 Thread andyg

Try disabling built-in WMA support, it looks like this stream might not
support HTTP streaming.  You get a 404 error when trying to play this
directly.

mms://85.25.145.192/lounge_fm_2006


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[slim] Duplicate Tracks

2006-10-02 Thread Neil Cameron
On XP and latest nightly 6.5.1 from 1st October.

Apart from the same missing albums problem that I've had since before 6.5 I 
now have a new problem on rescanning; many duplicate tracks. The new tracks 
show the SONG NAME and ALBUM, but no ARTIST of the original duplicated 
track.
e.g.

14 There's A Doctor - The Who - Tommy
14 There's A Doctor - Tommy

Is this another Tag problem?

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[slim] Re: Surround MP3 supported?

2006-10-02 Thread smst

Disclaimer: I'm speculating on much of this, and would love it if
somebody with more knowledge of the various specs could show me I was
wrong.

funkstar;141448 Wrote: 
 the reason DTS or AC3 wrapped up in a WAV or FLAC works is that the SB
 doesn't need to do any surround processing, it just thinks it is
 regular audio and passes it as is to the AV reciever. I'm guessing that
 surround MP3 would need to be decoded and then sent to the digital outs.
 So it is completely different process than what will currently work.

I think that sending to the receiver will be the hard part.  I wonder
if it's possible to send a 6-channel WAV directly to a receiver... if
not, the problem is (as you say) that the MP3 will have to be decoded
and then re-encoded to some format the receiver understands (AC3 or
DTS?  Possibly not practical; I don't know what the licensing or
processor power issues are).

Decoding: according to Fraunhofer, decoding the six channels needs
around three times the processing power of decoding stereo MP3.  I
have no idea if the SB2/3 could support that.

Fraunhofer also claim that an MP3 Surround stream can be sent over
S/PDIF just like MP3.  I presume that implies the receiver will be
decoding it, and that a compliant receiver would be required for the
surround effect (but I'm just guessing).

...

Just checked the specs for my receiver, which can handle AC3 and DTS --
there's no mention of multichannel PCM support (and indeed it seems to
be that PCM data is forced to be stereo).  That's just one receiver out
of many, so maybe 6-channel PCM is still viable.

I suspect that the best way to get this to work would be if a receiver
supported MP3 Surround files natively, and could be passed the data
over S/PDIF.


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[slim] Re: Surround MP3 supported?

2006-10-02 Thread SlimPvC

smst;141947 Wrote: 
 
 I think that sending to the receiver will be the hard part.  I wonder
 if it's possible to send a 6-channel WAV directly to a receiver... 

Don't know what you mean exactly here, but I'm playing DTS WAVS (= 6
channel wavs) perfectly through the SB2. These are the wavs that play
extreme white noise when played undecoded. So I guess the SB2 is
capable of decoding these wav files on the fly and sending a digital
signal to the receiver?


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[slim] Live365 Ads - I shouldn't be hearing them

2006-10-02 Thread jonheal

Has something changed since 6.5+ that would affect Live365 subscribers
still using 6.3.1?

When I browse to Live365 stations via Internet Radio on the Squeezebox,
the first thing I'm greeted with is a VIP membership ad from Live365.
I'm already a VIP member. My Live365 login username and password are
correctly entered in Slimserver.

Any ideas?


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[slim] Re: Same album with several entries in the database

2006-10-02 Thread Michaelwagner

Well, and for my part, I may not have expressed it clearly because I'm
not entirely sure what exactly happened.


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[slim] Re: 6.5.0 gotchas and instructions

2006-10-02 Thread agentsmith

jeffluckett;141860 Wrote: 
 Before you can get much help, you'll need to state what OS you're
 running on, and perhaps some specifics about your hardware.
 
 FWIW ... I think most people have had success with a Fresh install. 
 Most problems seem to occur when installing over old versions.

I am running Windows XP SP2 on a Thinkpad T30 with 1GB RAM.  Files are
stored in a Buffalo Linkstation.  I refer to my files using Windows UNC
i.e. \\Trinity\media

Since I tried 6.5 beta before and gave, I know about the requirement to
uninstall.  Before installing 6.5, I uninstalled and deleted the whole
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[slim] Re: Can my PC and SB3 access my networked music library remotely?

2006-10-02 Thread Mark Lanctot

Ross L;136279 Wrote: 
 Running SlimServer on Win95 can be done, however it might be worth
 looking into other options. I believe SlimServer 6.1.1 and before will
 run on Win95.

How about Windows 98SE?

I'm selling my SB3 (no, not leaving Slim, getting a Transporter!) but
the guy who's most interested is running 98SE.


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[slim] 6.5.0 is OK except for....

2006-10-02 Thread ncpl

Hi All,

6.5.0 seems generally OK for me so far...no crashes, random stops etc.
However, I've 2 issues that I haven't seen any previous answers too on
the forum...

1)  when viewing my SS from another pc in my house, it doesn't refresh
the page during playback.  Previously, SS would click away and refresh
right on time.  I've tried different refresh time settings, but, only a
manual refresh/F5 in IE6 seems to work.  OS in XP Pro on SS and XP Home
on the PC I'm viewing on.  All files are .flac.

2)  I now have a bunch of random no artist/no album tracks.  I saw
another poster mention this but couldn't spot the solution.  I can't
see them in mp3tag or in the file directory.

Any words of wisdom greatly appreciated.

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[slim] Re: Surround MP3 supported?

2006-10-02 Thread smst

SlimPvC;141950 Wrote: 
 Don't know what you mean exactly here, but I'm playing DTS WAVS (= 6
 channel wavs) perfectly through the SB2. These are the wavs that play
 extreme white noise when played undecoded. So I guess the SB2 is
 capable of decoding these wav files on the fly and sending a digital
 signal to the receiver?

It's not -- I wasn't clear.  I was referring to WAV files containing 6
channels of uncompressed PCM audio.  Your DTS WAVs actually contain
specially encoded DTS data which is masquerading as PCM data.  That's
why they sound like white noise when played normally: most players
think they're reading 2 channels of uncompressed PCM audio (it's all
just bytes, after all) and the sound is horrible.

That happens when the player is trying to convert the PCM data to an
analog format to be sent to speakers (say, you have your PC hooked up
to a pair of stereo speakers, and playing the WAV back through WinAmp
or fb2k results in white noise).  But if you have the player hooked up
to a DTS-aware receiver using a digital connection, the playing
software doesn't try to interpret the data and the receiver does the
work instead -- and the receiver is clever enough to spot the DTS data
and decode appropriately.  You can connect a PC soundcard's S/PDIF
output to a DTS-aware receiver and play DTS WAVs successfully (but
you'll need to be careful that your OS and music playback software
leave the volume alone -- for fb2k that means an attenuation of 0.00,
and with Windows the volume slider needs to be at max IIRC (if you try
this, turn your receiver's volume down very low at first in case I'm
wrong!)).

So anyway, the SB2 doesn't actually know anything about DTS WAVs.  It
does know that if it receives a WAV file and has been told to play it
back at full volume over its digital output, it should shunt the data
right out over the S/PDIF connection to the receiver, untouched.  It's
just a simple conduit for getting the DTS data from your PC to your
DTS-aware receiver.  (It's the same with Dolby Digital files from DVD,
after they've been suitably wrapped in WAV format; DTS files from DVD
too.  DTS WAVs ripped direct from special DTS CDs can be passed through
with no work at all.)

So passing DTS and AC3 (Dolby Digital) data straight through to the
receiver is what the SB2 can do now.  Those are formats that the
receiver can understand, and the SB2 need do no special work to pass
them on.  I'm wondering if there's another format (maybe an MPEG
format?) that can carry 6 uncompressed channels and which is understood
by many receivers.  If there is such a format, perhaps it would be
possible to decode MP3 Surround files on the SB2 and pump the 6
channels out over S/PDIF.  Of course, in theory the SB2 could create an
AC3 or DTS stream to get that data to the receiver, but I'd be surprised
if the box had the horsepower to do so, and there may be licensing
issues.  (Plus it's a lossy-to-lossy conversion which isn't usually a
great idea.)

If receivers start to support MP3 Surround, it might be possible to
just wrap such a file in a WAV container (as we can do for AC3/DTS
files sourced from DVD) and pass it straight through.  Would be nicer
if the SB2 could support it though.


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[slim] Re: 6.5.0 is OK except for....

2006-10-02 Thread jeffluckett

When I first went to 6.5 before it became an official beta I had
similar problems.

It may be a simple matter of your browser cache needing to be
refreshed.  Either try ctrl+f5 to force a refresh, or go into your
browser's menu item and manually clear the cache.


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[slim] Re: Surround MP3 supported?

2006-10-02 Thread SlimPvC

Thanks for your explanation! 

Bye
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Re: [slim] Bonus Track handling

2006-10-02 Thread Marc Sherman

Jon wrote:

I have a number of CDs that include Bonus Tracks ... most notably,
virtually all of my David Bowie CDs are loaded with bonus tracks. 
While I appreciate having all this extra music, somehow Young

Americans does not sound quite right when it doesn't end with Fame.

I suppose I could break these up by editing the tags to set the bonus
tracks for a different album name from the main tracks (such as Young
Americans and Young Americans Bonus Tracks) ... but is there a
better way to do this?


God damned Rykodisc. :) The Elvis Costello reissues are even worse -- 
some of those bonus tracks sound like they just turned on a tape deck 
randomly while hanging out with friends and then they stuck it on the 
end of the CD.


The weird thing is, I've always known that both Bowie and Elvis were 
unhappy with the bonus tracks on the Ryko releases, and in both cases, 
subsequent reissues on different labels didn't include the bonus tracks 
on the same disk, but I never understood why until I got my squeezebox. 
When I was listening to CDs, it never bugged me having to get up to 
change the disk when the bonus tracks start, but when I'm listening to a 
playlist with 4 different albums queued up in a row, it's much more 
annoying.


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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-02 Thread Mark Lanctot

Do you absolutely have to have the server wireless?  A wireless server
is a bad idea.  Even if you can get it working, you may experience
bandwidth issues and you'll be doubly-vulnerable to interference.

Yes, here's the part where someone comes in and says works for me but
it's still a bad idea and if you can avoid it, you definitely should. 
No other server you connect to is wireless, don't treat SlimServer any
differently.

At this point, it looks like the router is running in AP isolation
mode, where wireless clients can't hear each other.  This is strange
because your router probably doesn't support this mode.  Also other
users of your router haven't reported this problem.

You may still have firewall issues though.  In an effort to be helpful,
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[slim] Re: Same album with several entries in the database

2006-10-02 Thread nicketynick

joncourage and I appear to be having the exact same behaviour.  I concur
with Michael's observation in that I only started having the problem
when I pointed slimserver to a music directory on a second drive.
joncourage, slimpy has suggested checking the paths to each of the
dupes in the song info page (in the other thread) - I won't be able to
do so for 12 hours - have you had an opportunity?


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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-02 Thread Ramage

I have a Netgear DG834G (not the same but...) and it has a wireless
isolation option.  The manual states:

Wireless Isolation: If Enabled, the Wireless Stations will be hidden
from each other, and will not be able to communicate with each other.
For normal situations, this setting should be left at the default value
of Disabled

Double check your router manual for this option.

Check for isolation by pinging each of the wireless connected terminals
- laptop to laptop.  If you can ping across 2 wireless terminals then
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[slim] Re: Surround MP3 supported?

2006-10-02 Thread Mark Lanctot

smst;141947 Wrote: 
 Just checked the specs for my receiver, which can handle AC3 and DTS --
 there's no mention of multichannel PCM support (and indeed it seems to
 be that PCM data is forced to be stereo).  That's just one receiver out
 of many, so maybe 6-channel PCM is still viable.

I believe 6-channel PCM can't be transmitted over S/PDIF due to
insufficient bandwidth.  However it can be transmitted over HDMI, and
in fact until HDMI 1.3 is released, that's how the 7.1 discrete formats
will be transmitted to the receiver from an HD-DVD or Blu-ray player.

See
http://www.dolby.com/assets/pdf/tech_library/DPlus_TrueHD_whitepaper.pdf
, chart on page 9.

Unfortunately that leaves this sort of multichannel support for the
Squeezebox high and dry.


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[slim] Re: 6.5.0 is OK except for....

2006-10-02 Thread ncpl

Thanks Jeff,

Just before I picked up your response, I changed skin from default to
dark, and it seems to refresh.

Changing back to default and it doesn't.  Perhaps it's juyst an issue
with the default skin.  I know not to touch default 2 anyway now having
been caught out by that last week.

Seems also that ctrl+F5 is the only way to fully change a skin also.  

Any thoughts on no album/no artist ?

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[slim] Re: 6.5.0 is OK except for....

2006-10-02 Thread jeffluckett

ncpl;141979 Wrote: 
 Thanks Jeff,
 
 Just before I picked up your response, I changed skin from default to
 dark, and it seems to refresh.
 
 Changing back to default and it doesn't.  Perhaps it's juyst an issue
 with the default skin.  I know not to touch default 2 anyway now having
 been caught out by that last week.
 
 Seems also that ctrl+F5 is the only way to fully change a skin also.  
 
 Any thoughts on no album/no artist ?
 
 Cheers

Sorry, no input on that I'm afraid.  I'm not experiencing that issue.


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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-02 Thread Mark Lanctot

Ramage;141980 Wrote: 
 I have a Netgear DG834G (not the same but...) and it has a wireless
 isolation option.  The manual states:
 
 Wireless Isolation: If Enabled, the Wireless Stations will be hidden
 from each other, and will not be able to communicate with each other.
 For normal situations, this setting should be left at the default value
 of Disabled
 
 Double check your router manual for this option.
 
 Check for isolation by pinging each of the wireless connected terminals
 - laptop to laptop.  If you can ping across 2 wireless terminals then
 isolation is not enabled.

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[slim] Re: Sonos-like remote?

2006-10-02 Thread radish

Balthazar_B;141877 Wrote: 
 Let's put it this way: if Apple had released the iPod with a web
 interface for navigation instead of the simple but brilliant wheel
 mechanism, it would have flopped in the marketplace (I suppose one
 could say the Newton was the original flop).  SanDisk, Creative, et al.
 have pretty decent navigation mechanisms as well.  A small device (as a
 remote should be) whose essential function is navigation really needs
 something like this, and IMHO that's one of the strongest points about
 the Sonos (despite that the remote could still stand improvement). 
 Messing with a web interface compared with a device where hardware and
 firmware are well-matched will almost always be a poorer user
 experience.

I have something like 15 remote controls in a drawer in my living room.
All of them look essentially the same as the standard slim remote, a
bunch of buttons on a rectangular lump of plastic. The display, if any,
is on the device itself - not the controller. Now I'm not trying to
argue that this is an ideal situation - I replaced all 15 of those with
a Harmony after all - but it doesn't seem to be a major problem in most
people's eyes. I don't see Best Buy going out of business because
no-one's buying TVs anymore, and the vast majority of people use the
stock remotes perfectly happily. 

Like I said, I have nothing against a fancier remote control being
available, but comparing a squeezebox to a portable player is not
comparing like with like. I can't read the screen on my ipod from the
other side of the room either, but I don't see people complaining about
that. For myself (and I realise I don't represent everyone) - it's the
web interface which sold me on slim. Without that I wouldn't have
bought the 4 squeezeboxes and a transporter which currently sit in my
apartment.

(oh and if Slim ever do anything as annoying to use as that stupid ipod
wheel I'm selling up and switching to Roku!)


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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-02 Thread Ramage

The 834b uses 802.11b bandwidth 11Mb/s max, although I have seen this
kit advertised as 8Mb/s.

With that limitation it is a bad idea to connect the server by
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[slim] Re: Surround MP3 supported?

2006-10-02 Thread radish

Well, there's scope for a server-side transcoding from surround mp3 to
dts isn't there? I mean I have no idea if there's any cheap/free way of
encoding DD or DTS but it's techically possible.


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[slim] Re: Surround MP3 supported?

2006-10-02 Thread Mark Lanctot

radish;141987 Wrote: 
 Well, there's scope for a server-side transcoding from surround mp3 to
 dts isn't there? I mean I have no idea if there's any cheap/free way of
 encoding DD or DTS but it's techically possible.

Yes, you could do some sort of server-side encoding to get it into a DD
or DTS WAV.

There are a few new soundcards that can do this, although not with
surround MP3.  Google Dolby Digital Live.  DTS has a similar
technology, can't remember what they named it.  Unfortunately these
cards put the DD or DTS on their S/PDIF out, so SlimServer wouldn't be
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[slim] Re: Surround MP3 supported?

2006-10-02 Thread smst

Mark Lanctot;141978 Wrote: 
 I believe 6-channel PCM can't be transmitted over S/PDIF due to
 insufficient bandwidth.
I had a feeling that might be the case; I think I remember reading that
S/PDIF had insufficient bandwidth for DVD-Audio also.

 Unfortunately that leaves this sort of multichannel support for the
 Squeezebox high and dry.  It can't transmit anything other than
 2-channel PCM over S/PDIF and since surround MP3 isn't contained in a
 specially-encoded 2-channel PCM stream like DD and DTS, it can't be
 passed to a receiver, even if the receiver could decode such a stream.
But might it not be possible to encode streams other than AC3/DTS in
the same way?  For example, this S/PDIF information mentions MPEG audio
as one possible thing to put into the stream (although it might be
speculative):

http://www.epanorama.net/documents/audio/spdif.html

And indeed it seems that Harmon Kardon produce an amp capable of
receiving MP3s over S/PDIF:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=23822

Of course, the existing players will only be able to produce stereo
from the new MP3 Surround files, but if we could wrap up an MP3 in the
same way we can wrap an AC3 or DTS file, we might still be able to
transmit it to a suitable receiver.  (I wonder if anybody other than HK
make such a thing?)  And if we can transmit a stereo MP3 to a receiver,
I'd imagine that adding support for MP3 Surround would be fairly easy,
should a receiver come to exist which can support it.

Transformed MP3s would almost certainly be as big as their decompressed
stereo-WAV equivalents, but would compress well to FLAC due to all the
padding (going by the way AC3/DTS behaves).  Unfortunately my receiver
can't take MP3 files, but it would certainly be interesting to get this
going.  And if it could be made to work, the SB2/3 firmware could
probably do it for us.


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[slim] Re: 6.5 Unstable and Bugs

2006-10-02 Thread Cams

I just installed 6.5 (saw the notification that a new version was
available at the bottom of the version I was using (6_3_x_v2006-06-03)

First thing I noticed was that it loaded in my browser quicker, quite a
lot quicker. The second thing I noticed was that all my album art has
gone. I have a folder.jpg in all my album folders, but nothing
displays. That's what brought me to the forum, to see if this was a
documented problem and whether there was a fix. I haven't found
anything. I'm running it on ClarkConnect 3.2 Home.

The third thing I noticed was that my SB3 now displays Cyrillic! How
long I have waited for this! Now I can get to work ripping my Russian
CDs at last! 

I have had one SlimServer crash since upgrading (never had one prior to
that) and I haven't really checked the bandwith issues on my DGL-4300 --
I did have a problem playing FLACs in the farther away of my two SB3s,
but it's in the kitchen where I mainly listen to podcasts in MP3
format, so it wasn't too big a deal.

I wonder whether the 802.11n standard will see its way into the SB3 (if
it ever gets ratified that is!)

I like how 6.5 looks over 6.3 based on my 10 minutes of using it. I
hope the bugs get fixed, as I'm sure they will be. I've had the two
SB3s about a year now and I'm very glad I chose them. They quite simply
have changed how I consume my audio in the home and I would hate to 'go
back'!

So, any ideas on the album art thing? 

Cams


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[slim] Re: Surround MP3 supported?

2006-10-02 Thread Mark Lanctot

Mark Lanctot;141989 Wrote: 
 DTS has a similar technology, can't remember what they named it.

DTS Connect.  http://www.dts.com/consumer/pc/dtsconnect.php

BTW, Dolby Digital Live:
http://www.dolby.com/consumer/technology/dolby_live.html

Once card supports them both:
http://www.auzentech.com/products_xplosion.html  That card has a neat
feature: socketed op-amps.  I'd like to get it if computer sound didn't
suck so bad.  :-P

Both these technologies have licensing costs though.


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[slim] Re: iTunes WAV - AIFF adds volume adjustment field info

2006-10-02 Thread SteveEast

I just tried something similar - converted an AAC track to WAV and then
AIFF with iTunes 6. No replay gain showing in SS or dBPowerAmp. 

Got me stumped...

What was the original source of your WAV files? Ripped with...?

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[slim] Re: 6.5 Unstable and Bugs

2006-10-02 Thread Cams

Update:

A rescan brought back the album art so I'm all fixed up! I'm stoked
about the Cyrillic thing too!


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[slim] Re: Surround MP3 supported?

2006-10-02 Thread Mark Lanctot

smst;141995 Wrote: 
 For example, this S/PDIF information mentions MPEG audio as one possible
 thing to put into the stream (although it might be speculative):
 
 http://www.epanorama.net/documents/audio/spdif.html
 
 And indeed it seems that Harmon Kardon produce an amp capable of
 receiving MP3s over S/PDIF:
 
 http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=23822
 
 Of course, the existing players will only be able to produce stereo
 from the new MP3 Surround files, but if we could wrap up an MP3 in the
 same way we can wrap an AC3 or DTS file, we might still be able to
 transmit it to a suitable receiver.  (I wonder if anybody other than HK
 make such a thing?)  And if we can transmit a stereo MP3 to a receiver,
 I'd imagine that adding support for MP3 Surround would be fairly easy,
 should a receiver come to exist which can support it.
 
 Transformed MP3s would almost certainly be as big as their decompressed
 stereo-WAV equivalents, but would compress well to FLAC due to all the
 padding (going by the way AC3/DTS behaves).  Unfortunately my receiver
 can't take MP3 files, but it would certainly be interesting to get this
 going.  And if it could be made to work, the SB2/3 firmware could
 probably do it for us.

Interesting!

Well that would be the way.  You'd need a firmware change so that the
SB could pass surround MP3 without decoding it over S/PDIF, then a
receiver capable of decoding surround MP3.

This might be able to avoid the licensing cost on SD's part.  I would
assume a receiver capable of decoding surround MP3s is capable of
decoding 2-channel MP3s, so all the SB would have to do is transmit the
MP3 bits over S/PDIF.  It certainly can recognize MP3 from other
streams, all it has to do is pass the raw data over rather than convert
it to PCM like it currently does.

Not knowing how the SB firmware works, I'm not sure if this could be
done.  But it will be rebuilding the MP3 file from the SlimProto
packets, just like it's doing now.  However it will bypass the decoder
and transmit the reassembled MP3 data directly over S/PDIF.  Since this
is handled by SlimDSP software, it should be possible to change it as
it's not hardwired if you will.  It'll certainly be easier to do it
this way rather than heroics at the server decoding the surround MP3,
then re-encoding it into DD or DTS, then getting that into SlimServer -
and incurring two or maybe even three licensing costs in the process! 
(Surround MP3, DD Live and/or DTS Conncect).

At first I thought surround MP3, why do I want a lossy format?  But
that's exactly what DD and DTS are, lossy multichannel.  Lossless
multichannel is DSD, MLP and (new) Dolby TrueHD.  Those can't be
handled by S/PDIF, no way no how, plus they are content-protected.


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[slim] Re: 6.5.0 is OK except for....

2006-10-02 Thread ncpl

I've tracked the no name/no artist stuff down to .wavs that were from
aborted rips.  It seems that SS could see them but as they never picked
up any tags, I couldn't see them in mp3tag. Without any tags, they
showed up as no album,/no artist as you'd expect.
Probably explains why mp3tag and SS always had different stats.
6.5.0 must be behaving differently with the database.

I'm still not sure why default doesn't refresh and for some reason I
can't see any option for artwork now on any skin?

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[slim] Re: Bonus Track handling

2006-10-02 Thread aubuti

Ben Sandee;141544 Wrote: 
 On 9/30/06, Jon Jon.2ez9kb1159670101 (AT) no-mx (DOT)
 forums.slimdevices.com wrote:
 
 
  One interesting bug that I encountered in doing this (and not the
 first
  time I've seen this) ... I had to do a Clear library and rescan
  everything, when I tried Look for new and changed music
 SlimServer
  did not pick up the changes.
 
 
 One thing that can cause this is taggers that don't update the file
 modification timestamp.  SlimServer uses the last modified time to
 determine whether or not to rescan.

And a lot of taggers have an option on whether or not to update the
timestamp (eg, mp3tag's Tools  Options  General settings panel). Fix
that setting (if you have one) and you should be okay. Or change your
tagging program.


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Re: [slim] Duplicate Tracks

2006-10-02 Thread Neil Cameron
On closer inspection; I also have many duplicate tracks with SONG NAME, 
ALBUM and ARTIST all duplicated.  Does no-on else have this problem?

Neil

Neil Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On XP and latest nightly 6.5.1 from 1st October.

 Apart from the same missing albums problem that I've had since before 6.5 
 I now have a new problem on rescanning; many duplicate tracks. The new 
 tracks show the SONG NAME and ALBUM, but no ARTIST of the original 
 duplicated track.
 e.g.

 14 There's A Doctor - The Who - Tommy
 14 There's A Doctor - Tommy

 Is this another Tag problem?

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[slim] Re: Surround MP3 supported?

2006-10-02 Thread radish

This thread is old, but it suggests there may be some scope for
server-side AC3 or DTS encoding, which could be coupled to a mp3
surround decode to allow playback via squeezebox. Probably a thorny
legal area...

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t4208.html

It could also work for things like multi-channel vorbis or flac.


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[slim] Re: 6.5.0 is OK except for....

2006-10-02 Thread Mark Lanctot

ncpl;142006 Wrote: 
 I'm still not sure why default doesn't refresh and for some reason I
 can't see any option for artwork now on any skin?

This is now in a gallery view and is available using a small button
on the right side of the Sort By field in any view showing multiple
artists, albums, etc.

You may have to rescan to see it:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=142002#post142002


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[slim] Re: Is 6.5 perfect?

2006-10-02 Thread Mark Lanctot

Another neat feature I just discovered this morning: alarm fade-in!

Plus the alarm plays continuously.  It had stopped doing this in 6.3
for me.  Which is a good thing, it's a short sound and if it takes 20
seconds to fade in, it would stop playing before it was audible.


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Re: [slim] Re: 6.5.0 is OK except for....

2006-10-02 Thread Andy Hawkins
Hi,

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   ncpl[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 for some reason I can't see any option for artwork now on any skin?

On the 'default' skin, go into 'Albums' and then there's an icon to go
'To Gallery View'

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[slim] Re: Duplicate Albums

2006-10-02 Thread joncourage

Wow, good call.

The songs in the dupe album point to the location on a previous hard
drive where I kept music before upgrading to the 6.5 version.  That
hard drive is still online and accessible by the Slimserver, so Slim
doesn't appear to think anything is wrong or obsolete about that
location.

The songs in the real album point to the correct location.

So, it would seem by induction that the Playlists entries continue to
point to the original location of the song in the playlist (which makes
sense I guess since the playlist has no way of knowing the music has
moved and re-pointing, does it?).  And since that location is still
available, the music is getting scanned.

An interesting conundrum - if you move you music directory, is there no
way to update playlists with new locations, or do playlists have to be
manually recreated?

Thanks for the great diagnostic direction!


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Re: [slim] 6.5.0 is OK except for....

2006-10-02 Thread kdf


On 2-Oct-06, at 5:58 AM, ncpl wrote:



Hi All,

6.5.0 seems generally OK for me so far...no crashes, random stops etc.
However, I've 2 issues that I haven't seen any previous answers too on
the forum...

1)   I've tried different refresh time settings, but, only a
manual refresh/F5 in IE6 seems to work.  OS in XP Pro on SS and XP Home
on the PC I'm viewing on.  All files are .flac.


known issue, and known to be fixed in 6.5.1 nightly builds.
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[slim] SS doesn't advance to the next track after pause

2006-10-02 Thread Rangdo

Probably relates to this bug which is marked as fixed

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2169#c12

Basically if I pause a track within the last ~30 seconds SS doesn't
advance to the next track unless I press next on either the remote or
web interface.

I had this with 6.3 and I've now got it with 6.5 (which was a fresh
install).  Is anyone else still experiencing this; this is now my only
bug-bear (no pun intended and only a minor issue at that)


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[slim] Re: Zone control on Squeezebox or Transporter?

2006-10-02 Thread aubuti

Maybe sync'ing should be perfect, but after doing a lot sync'ing I still
find it to be hit-or-miss. I have a wired SB2 and a wireless SB3 running
11g only (signal strength usually around 80%). I've used 6.2.2 and 6.5
on a LinkStation HG. Sync'ing does work for me most of the time, and
6.5 seems better at this, but it's still quite common for there to be a
stutter when starting a track, and then the track is out of sync.
Sometimes it's subtle enough that it just sounds like overdone reverb,
other times it's really annoying (the rooms are close enough you can
often hear both players, otherwise syncing wouldn't matter). How
annoying depends probably as much on the particular track as it does on
the precise length of the delay. Usually they will click back into sync
on the subsequent track. And forcing it to restart a track will also
usually re-sync.

I've tried a few things, and still haven't gotten sync'ing to be rock
solid. I figured the wireless SB3 was the weakest link, but I still
lost sync when I connected it via ethernet (need to retest this with
6.5). Sometimes turning off wireless computers on the network helps,
but again, that's no guarantee. Haven't yet tried swapping the router
(Netgear WGR614v3) for something else. I'll try it again soon after I
upgrade my Dell running Ubuntu to slimserver 6.5, in case it's a
problem of the LinkStation's underpowered hardware.

From reading other posts I think it's not only radish who syncs without
problems, and not just gorman and I who have less-than-perfect sync'ing.
That's why the fine-grained network clock for synchronization is still
on the software roadmap, albeit quite vaguely, right?
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?SoftwareRoadmap


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[slim] Re: Duplicate Albums

2006-10-02 Thread slimpy

joncourage;142021 Wrote: 
 Wow, good call.
 
 The songs in the dupe album point to the location on a previous hard
 drive where I kept music before upgrading to the 6.5 version.  That
 hard drive is still online and accessible by the Slimserver, so Slim
 doesn't appear to think anything is wrong or obsolete about that
 location.
 
 The songs in the real album point to the correct location.
 
 So, it would seem by induction that the Playlists entries continue to
 point to the original location of the song in the playlist (which makes
 sense I guess since the playlist has no way of knowing the music has
 moved and re-pointing, does it?).  And since that location is still
 available, the music is getting scanned.
 
 An interesting conundrum - if you move you music directory, is there no
 way to update playlists with new locations, or do playlists have to be
 manually recreated?
 
 Thanks for the great diagnostic direction!

Glad to be of any help.
Playlists are basically just text files. Search the internet for a text
editor that can replace text in multiple files at once, open all
playlists in the text editor and replace the changed part of the file
path. This is certainly easier than recreating all playlists.

-s.


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[slim] Re: Duplicate Albums

2006-10-02 Thread joncourage

Once again slimpy - awesome.  Thanks so much!


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[slim] Re: Surround MP3 supported?

2006-10-02 Thread smst

Mark Lanctot;142004 Wrote: 
 Interesting!
 
 Well that would be the way.  You'd need a firmware change so that the
 SB could pass surround MP3 without decoding it over S/PDIF, then a
 receiver capable of decoding surround MP3.
 
 ...As a first pass, we could encode it to FLAC as we can for AC3/DTS, and
then without firmware changes it'll pass right through.  But that
supposes that I can work out how to convert it; I'll probably have a
look in the next few days.


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[slim] Remove Title under Artwork

2006-10-02 Thread fingers

How does one remove the Title and Artist from under the ArtWork view but
keep the mouseover Title and Artist in 6.5?


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Re: [slim] Re: Sonos-like remote?

2006-10-02 Thread Jack Coates
On 10/2/06, radish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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[slim] Re: Always fails to connect after shutting down server computer

2006-10-02 Thread Bruce S .

I think we have two definitions of connect. One is a connection that
is achieved when the SB reports a wireless signal strength of 80% or
so. The other is when it actually sends data. 

I don't believe I can download SB3 firmware with only the first
definition in play, since the server software reports that it can't
find my SB3. So, no data will be sent.

I won't get to this till later tonight.

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[slim] Re: Duplicate Albums

2006-10-02 Thread nicketynick

Well done, slimpy - another fine example of how great this community
is!
Now, how do we keep other unwary users from running into this problem? 
Is it a bug? Or an enhancement request?  Any of our friends from SD care
to chime in here?


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[slim] Re: Always fails to connect after shutting down server computer

2006-10-02 Thread Mark Lanctot

Bruce S.;142038 Wrote: 
 I don't believe I can download SB3 firmware with only the first
 definition in play, since the server software reports that it can't
 find my SB3. So, no data will be sent.

Yes, in order to download firmware from the server, the player needs to
be connected to the server, i.e. the server has to see it.

Should work if you wire it.


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[slim] Re: Zone control on Squeezebox or Transporter?

2006-10-02 Thread JJZolx

aubuti;142024 Wrote: 
 Maybe sync'ing should be perfect, but after doing a lot sync'ing I still
 find it to be hit-or-miss.
Same here.  IMO, the syncing of players in SlimServer was something of
an afterthought, whereas with the Sonos it appears to have been a high
priority in the design from the start.  Maybe that will change as Slim
Devices moves forward, but their direction now seems to have little
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[slim] Re: Same album with several entries in the database

2006-10-02 Thread slimpy

Playlists are basically just text files pointing to the actual files
using file name and path.
Slimserver first scans your music library and populates its database
then it goes on to scan the playlists. The path to the referenced file
in the playlist is read and compared to the database entries. If
slimserver finds a matching path and filename in the database the
already existing entry will be used. If there's no match slimserver
tries to read the tags from the file referenced in the playlist and
adds the information to the database, assuming it is a different file.
This way playlists can be used to add tracks to your library that are
outside of your music library tree.
You can end up with duplicate entries for one of the following
reasons:
-You have a copy of your music library, music library in slimserver is
set to the original but playlists reference the copy (or vice versa)
-You have symlinks somewhere pointing to your music library, music
library is set to the absolute path (without symlink) and your
playlists use any symlinked path (or vice versa)
e.g. 
music library setting: /music 
playlist: /home/slimpy/music/track.flac (/home/slimpy/music is
symlinked to /music)

If you need to move your music library you need to make sure the paths
in your playlists are still valid. 
If you move your library your playlists will go missing because the
files they reference are no longer there.
If you copy you will end up with duplicate entries for the reason
discussed above.
To update your playlists you can use any text editor that can replace
text in multiple files at once (search the internet).
Make a backup of all playlists somewhere just in case the files get
screwed up.
Open all playlists in the editor and replace the changed part of the
file path and save.

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[slim] Re: iTunes WAV - AIFF adds volume adjustment field info

2006-10-02 Thread Timbo

They were ripped with EAC, to WAV and then iTunes via iTunesEncode -
just checked and haven't got EAC nomalise switched on - strange :-/


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[slim] Remote streaming with Palm/Treo 700p: security questions

2006-10-02 Thread dperrigan

Hi there.  I've been been using my two Squeezeboxes for about 6 months
now and LOVE them.  Thank you to all the developers and all the forum
posters out there.

I just purchased a Palm/Treo 700p and have set up remote streaming and
remote access to my home computer's (Win XP Pro) SlimServer website. 
I'm doing this by forwarding port 9000 on my router (wrt54g).  I'm
using SlimServer user/password and also blocking requests except for
the IP of my smartphone (which hasn't seemed to change over the last
few days so I'm assuming it's mostly static).

My question is: how secure is this?  Has anyone tried to hack a system
configured as such?  I've read the few posts suggesting ssh, but I'm
not sure if that can be set up on a palm 700p.

Anyone have any suggestions?  Thanks in advance!

Dan


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[slim] Re: Zone control on Squeezebox or Transporter?

2006-10-02 Thread radish

Perfect was too strong a word to use, I acknowledge that :) It's just
that I haven't noticed any problems the few times I've used it, and
I've not seen many complaints about sync around here that haven't
involved softsqueeze or radio streaming. I'm perfectly happy to believe
there are sometimes issues - although I'd be fairly surprised if wired
vs wireless made a difference.

Are there bug reports for these issues? (other than the fine-grained
clock one, which is more of an enhancement request to allow non-pause
syncing).


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[slim] Re: Is 6.5 perfect?

2006-10-02 Thread snarlydwarf

Mark Lanctot;141445 Wrote: 
 
 Well...after installing and reconfiguring my players, it's running
 perfectly for me.  I know this is going to sound like fanboyism, but I
 can't say anything different - it's perfect on my system:
 

Well, um, I've been quiet on the forum lately mainly because I am,
well, stuck.

I have the same, wow, this is nice feeling at the moment.  I tracked
the nightlies on 6.5 shortly after the MySql change (and had all the
fun of that :P), but now, well, it just... works.

I really havent felt a need to hang out here as much as I used to,
because 6.5 just works so well.


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[slim] Re: Bonus Track handling

2006-10-02 Thread Jon

aubuti;142003 Wrote: 
 And a lot of taggers have an option on whether or not to update the
 timestamp (eg, mp3tag's Tools  Options  General settings panel). Fix
 that setting (if you have one) and you should be okay. Or change your
 tagging program.
I use TagRename ... it has an option on whether or not to update the
timestamp ... but in my case, that option was already set to update the
timestamp.


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Re: [slim] Re: Zone control on Squeezebox or Transporter?

2006-10-02 Thread Jack Coates
On 10/2/06, radish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perfect was too strong a word to use, I acknowledge that :) It's justthat I haven't noticed any problems the few times I've used it, and
I've not seen many complaints about sync around here that haven'tinvolved softsqueeze or radio streaming. I'm perfectly happy to believethere are sometimes issues - although I'd be fairly surprised if wired
vs wireless made a difference.Are there bug reports for these issues? (other than the fine-grainedclock one, which is more of an enhancement request to allow non-pausesyncing).
It is a common problem with radio streams and long-running tracks (read classical music and auidobooks), used to be a common problem with pop music too. There have been gradual improvements, largely by accident IMHO as improvements in resource management have decreased the likelihood of lost frames.
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[slim] Duplicate Song Titles

2006-10-02 Thread halstrom505

An album I ripped shows up in SS with duplicate song titles, IE, each
track is listed twice, and played twice, yet if you look in the
directory at the flac files there is only one copy of each track file.


Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.


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[slim] Re: iTunes WAV - AIFF adds volume adjustment field info

2006-10-02 Thread Mark Lanctot

Timbo;142051 Wrote: 
 They were ripped with EAC, to WAV and then iTunes via iTunesEncode -
 just checked and haven't got EAC nomalise switched on - strange :-/

Normalization isn't recommended, and even if you did turn it on, it
doesn't write any tags because WAV can't be tagged.  Instead it
permanently alters the audio data - which is why it's not recommended!


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[slim] Re: Remote streaming with Palm/Treo 700p: security questions

2006-10-02 Thread Mark Lanctot

A Google search shows no exploits for port 9000, but that doesn't mean
there aren't any or won't be any in the future.

Your PC will currently be listening on port 9000 for all requests.  If
an attacker can figure out that this is SlimServer, he can maybe start
your player up at 4 AM.  :-)

That's not to say there's no security risk.  New exploits are being
developed all the time and SlimServer is not designed as a secure
server for use over the Internet.  SSH is.

If you don't want to use SSH but wish to avoid someone playing around
with your SlimServer, you may want to set a user name/password in
Server Settings - Security.  You can then access the stream at
http://username:password@SlimServer IP:9000/stream.mp3


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[slim] Re: Remove Title under Artwork

2006-10-02 Thread kdf

currently, you can't.  In 7.0a1 builds, there is an experimental ui
(meaning it may go away if people don't like it or if it becomes
annoying to maintain) that allows you to click a link to make the text
appear or disappear in the fishbone skin.

for current releases, you'll have to resort to editing a file.

Look for the file, HTML/EN/cmdwrappers under the slimserver install
location.
open it with any text editor (notepad, vi, etc)
Look for the [% BLOCK galleryitem %], around line 150
Near the end of that section, around line 180 you can remove the line:

[%- content | indent(4) %]

with that gone, the text under the image will no longer be there. 

installing any newer version of slismerver will require redoing this
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RE: [slim] 6.5.0 is OK except for....

2006-10-02 Thread James Dunn
Hi,

There were two causes on my machine for the no album no artist problem under
6.5.0

1)  Cover art embedded in the album.  I went through the files with iTunes
and deleted the cover art and all the tracks but one were put back in the
database.
2)  The track title was too long on the last track (something classical that
had a title that went on for probably more than 100-200 characters).  I
shortened the title and the track was back in the database.

I found them all by browsing albums to no album and picked them off one by
one in iTunes.  It soon became obvious that cover art was the problem
because I don't normally use it and tracks without cover art were OK.

Cheers,

James


 2)  I now have a bunch of random no artist/no album tracks.  I saw
 another poster mention this but couldn't spot the solution.  I can't
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[slim] Re: Remote streaming with Palm/Treo 700p: security questions

2006-10-02 Thread dperrigan

Thanks, Mark.  I'm already using the username:password and the IP
blocking.  I'm wondering if that's safe enough.  Also, does anyone know
if ssh or something like it can run from a palm?

Thanks,
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[slim] Another 6.5 Missing Songs Problem

2006-10-02 Thread Chip Hart

...after switching from the 7.0 to 6.5/6.51 (there are some
plugins I can't live without), I can't seem to get a complete
scan of my collection.  Worse, for the life of me, I can't seem
to get *any* debug information to help me figure out which
track(s) I presume have bad mp3 tags.

I have approximately 2K artists, 30K songs (iirc).  After doing
a fresh install, I only get 728 artists.  And I can see lots of
gaps in my artist lists.  Clues and work:

  - I've tried every debugging flag combo that makes any sense
to me (d_mp3, import, scan, *sql, etc.) and not only do I
fail to get error messages...I don't seem to get the logging
of the successful scans, either.  Which I seem to remember
getting previously.  [I've seen the other threads here about
this and I, too, only get 
UPDATE contributors SET customsearch = ? WHERE ( id = ? ):
errors.]

  - If I navigate to a missing directory, the tracks get
added to the DB, as expected.

  - I've tried looking for new, clean and rescan, and even
removing the sql db.

  - More than once, I've actually had the entire db picked up
(i.e., 2K artists show up) but it immediately disappears
once a rescan runs (like, over night).

  - Of course, none of my gallery-view artwork is working.  Only
when I drill down to an entry.

I am delighted to re-scan, try different debugging options, post
results, you name it.  Any help appreciated.

Thanks.

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[slim] Re: iTunes WAV - AIFF adds volume adjustment field info

2006-10-02 Thread SteveEast

Timbo;142051 Wrote: 
 They were ripped with EAC, to WAV and then iTunes via iTunesEncode -
 just checked and haven't got EAC nomalise switched on - strange :-/

I thought iTunesEncode wrote .M4A files? Or does leaving off the -o
cause it to just do the iTunes tagging?

Steve.


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Re: [slim] Re: Remote streaming with Palm/Treo 700p: security questions

2006-10-02 Thread Jack Coates
On 10/2/06, dperrigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks, Mark.I'm already using the username:password and the IPblocking.I'm wondering if that's safe enough.Also, does anyone know
if ssh or something like it can run from a palm?Thanks,DanSafe enough depends entirely on the threat surface, which depends entirely on the likely attackers. You're probably fine, unless:
1) you run with a very clever and motivated crew with a bent towards practical jokes.2) some security researcher figures out and publishes an automated attack against slimserver's username and password function.
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[slim] 6.5.0 Problem

2006-10-02 Thread MillmoorRon

Since installing 6.5.0 (full version) I've been experience a bit of an
intermittent problem.

In a (seemingly) random fashion, the remote stops responding for a few
seconds (sometimes up to 30) which is quite annoying after a while!

Initially I thought the batteries needed replaing but that wasn't it.

Any suggestions?

ps

Plugins I've added: Trackstat, Dynamic  SQL Playlists and LazySearch
(all latest versions as of about a week ago!)


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Re: [slim] Re: Remote streaming with Palm/Treo 700p: security questions

2006-10-02 Thread Pat Farrell

dperrigan wrote:

Thanks, Mark.  I'm already using the username:password and the IP
blocking.  I'm wondering if that's safe enough.  Also, does anyone know
if ssh or something like it can run from a palm?


Google for ssh and palm yields
http://www.sealiesoftware.com/pssh/
pssh is a free, open-source SSH 2 client for Palm OS 5.

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Re: [slim] 6.5.0 Problem

2006-10-02 Thread Ben Sandee
On 10/2/06, MillmoorRon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since installing 6.5.0 (full version) I've been experience a bit of anintermittent problem.
In a (seemingly) random fashion, the remote stops responding for a fewseconds (sometimes up to 30) which is quite annoying after a while!When this happens have you noticed if the server hosting SlimServer is at a very high CPU or I/O level? It's surprising that you didn't see this before and you are now -- the general consensus is that this happens much less often with 
6.5 than previous releases. I wonder if one of your plugins is generating a lot intermittent CPU load and you just happen to be trying to use the server when this happens.Ben
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[slim] Re: 6.5.0 Problem

2006-10-02 Thread Triode

Could you run the diagnostics described in the following thread and post
the output of the log here?

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28118


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[slim] Re: 6.5.0 Problem

2006-10-02 Thread MillmoorRon

Is this the right bit?:



ERROR: Failed to detect server IP address. Invalid argument

ERROR: objectForUrl: Null track request!

Backtrace:

frame 0: Slim::Schema::objectForUrl
(E:\Data\SlimServer\server/Plugins/TrackStat/Storage.pm line 128)
frame 1: Plugins::TrackStat::Storage::objectForUrl
(E:\Data\SlimServer\server/Plugins/TrackStat/Plugin.pm line 2963)
frame 2: Plugins::TrackStat::Plugin::startTimingNewSong
(E:\Data\SlimServer\server/Plugins/TrackStat/Plugin.pm line 2677)
frame 3: Plugins::TrackStat::Plugin::playCommand
(E:\Data\SlimServer\server/Plugins/TrackStat/Plugin.pm line 2905)
frame 4: Plugins::TrackStat::Plugin::commandCallback65
(/PerlApp/Slim/Control/Request.pm line 1640)
frame 5: Slim::Control::Request::notify
(/PerlApp/Slim/Control/Request.pm line 753)
frame 6: Slim::Control::Request::checkNotifications (slimserver.pl
line 464)
frame 7: main::idle (slimserver.pl line 35)
frame 8: PerlSvc::Startup (perlsvc.pl line 1482)
frame 9: PerlSvc::_startup (slimserver.pl line 0)
frame 10: (eval) (slimserver.pl line 0)

Timer Task  0.5 :  0.56283   
Plugins::LazySearch2::onFindTimer
Response Time   0.5 :  0.56302
Request Task0.5 :  0.54156Execute:
Slim::Control::Commands::buttonCommand
Request Task0.5 :  0.54225Execute:
Slim::Control::Commands::irCommand
Response Time   0.5 :  0.54296
Request Task0.5 :  2.87201Execute:
Slim::Control::Commands::buttonCommand
Request Task0.5 :  2.87269Execute:
Slim::Control::Commands::irCommand
Response Time   0.5 :  2.87340
Timer Late  0.5 :  2.62038
Timer Late  0.5 :  2.19853
Timer Late  0.5 :  1.21976


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Re: [slim] Bonus Track handling

2006-10-02 Thread Greg Klanderman

 Marc Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 God damned Rykodisc. :) The Elvis Costello reissues are even worse -- 

The version of the Kinks' Village Green Preservation Society I have
has two complete (with small variations) copies of the album.

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[slim] Re: Remote streaming with Palm/Treo 700p: security questions

2006-10-02 Thread Mark Lanctot

dperrigan;142077 Wrote: 
 Thanks, Mark.  I'm already using the username:password and the IP
 blocking.  I'm wondering if that's safe enough.

That's as safe as you're going to get without SSH.

Whether it's safe enough, see stinkingpig's second point.


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[slim] Re: Remove Title under Artwork

2006-10-02 Thread fingers

Will this still allow the mouse over with the Album and Artist name to
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[slim] Re: Radio URL needs synchronized SoftSqueeze to play.

2006-10-02 Thread Mark Lanctot

bbpbbp;142099 Wrote: 
 With the risk of sounding like a nouvise, I am afraid I do not
 understand what you mean by disabeling buildt in WMA support. Do you
 mean trying the link you suplied? If that is the case I tried that but
 it makes no difference. I can still only access the radiostation if I
 have a softsqueeze running localy on my computer, not by starting the
 link from the Squeezebox. Starting it through my browser, softsqueeze,
 Windows Media player og Winamp is no problem, only directly from the
 Squeezebox. Do you mean something else by disabeling buildt in WMA
 support Is it a setting I have not found?

Go to SlimServer Server Settings - File Types and uncheck the Windows
Media - Windows Media (built-in) line.


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Re: [slim] Re: Remove Title under Artwork

2006-10-02 Thread kdf

Quoting fingers [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



Will this still allow the mouse over with the Album and Artist name to
still appear?


yes.  the removed line is only the text below the artwork. the  
mouseOver effect is handled elsewhere.

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[slim] Running SlimServer on Windows 98SE?

2006-10-02 Thread Mark Lanctot

In order to partially fund my purchase of a Transporter (yay!) I'm
selling my SB3.

Due to my super salesman tactics, I've gotten an acquaintance very
interested.  Perhaps it's my offer of a free demo at his home using his
equipment, free installation and free, perpetual product support that
will no doubt come back to bite me on the keister.

Anyway, this guy is running Windows 98SE.  That's a problem.  I see a
passing reference that you can run 6.1.1 on Windows 95 here:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=136279postcount=8

so I assume 6.1.1 will run on Windows 98SE as well.  Is that as far as
he can go?  That'll make new product features and bugfixes impossible,
but once we shake out the problems it should be stable.


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[slim] Re: 6.5.0 Problem

2006-10-02 Thread Triode

This is showing the server being unresponsive for 2.8 seconds:

Request Task  0.5 : 2.87201 Execute:
Slim::Control::Commands::buttonCommand
Request Task  0.5 : 2.87269 Execute:
Slim::Control::Commands::irCommand
Response Time  0.5 : 2.87340

However it doesn't give any immediate clues of why.  Could I suggest
you leave it running like this for a while and then look back at the
log for each instance of Response Time  0.5 and see what it says
just before this - it may give us more details.  If it does not then we
need to run this at the same time as some more debugging.


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[slim] Re: Cover art files

2006-10-02 Thread letalis

This is exactly the problem I wrote about in another thread
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27810

Running gentoo.


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[slim] Re: Cover art files

2006-10-02 Thread letalis

After reading this thread I deleted the entire contents of my cache
directory, double checked permissions and did a rescan and voila - all
covers are back!


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[slim] Streaming radio ok, streaming from server not ok

2006-10-02 Thread vsu

Hi there. 
I am very frustrated with my set up. Granted I have the server (and
internet modem/wifi router) on my 3rd floor and m SB on my first, I get
an quite reliable connection (although medium to poor in % of full
signal) which seems to be enough to play radio streams. 
The same doesnt apply to music from my db. 

Streams stop and drop and start again for a second and stall etc.
Before I go down to the shop and buy a $130 LAN over power line plug
and connect wired, I want to know if wifi reach is really my problem or
it is something else. 

Does it sound to you like it could be something else? Can one fiddle
with buffer sizes, server versions, framware versions or anything else
that might fix the problem. 
I am on 6.3 now, but unless somebody swears that ony a server update
will do the trick, I wont upgrade. 
Thanks 
Vic 
PS: my db size souldnt be the problem yet, I have only ripped 120 CD so
far.


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[slim] 6.5.0 - No Album Art in random mix

2006-10-02 Thread nelamvr6

Wow. What happened? 6.5.0 is without a doubt the buggiest release yet!

Should we have a mini forum just for 6.5.0 bug reports? 

The title says it all, no artwork with a random song mix. I'm using
SlimServer Version: 6.5.0 - 9916 - Windows Server 2003 - EN - cp1252

Album art displays OK when playing albums, just not in random mix. I
usually use the Fishbone skin, but I tried a bunch of others and the
result was the same.

The tracks play just fine, so it's a minor inconvenience. but it's not
right, and it was right in 6.3.


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[slim] Re: Streaming radio ok, streaming from server not ok

2006-10-02 Thread Mark Lanctot

What kind of files do you play?  Specifically, what bitrate?

You can limit the bitrate by going to Player Settings - Audio - Bitrate
Limiting.

Almost surely this is due to poor wireless reception and higher bitrate
files, but if you wish you can go to Server  Network Health and enable
performance monitoring, then post the output here.  I can't remember
where this was in 6.3 (Server Settings - Plugins?  In Help?) but in 6.5
it's in Help.

6.5 won't be able to cure wireless issues but since the scanner process
is separate, your music won't skip due to low server resources when
you're scanning.


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Re: [slim] 6.5.0 - No Album Art in random mix

2006-10-02 Thread Ben Sandee
On 10/2/06, nelamvr6 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wow. What happened? 6.5.0 is without a doubt the buggiest release yet!
That's a great way to start off with some goodwill to the volunteers who make the product what it is.Ben 
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[slim] Re: Duplicate Song Titles

2006-10-02 Thread ModelCitizen

Is it a Various Artists album? If so try a forum search for just that.
Otherwise do you have a playlist that references that album which may
have the wrong paths in it.
Or maybe you have two sets of tags in the album - look at it with a tag
editor and see if you do.

Otherwise, you need to post a lot more info for anyone to be able to
help.

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[slim] Re: 6.5.0 - No Album Art in random mix

2006-10-02 Thread Mark Lanctot

nelamvr6;142121 Wrote: 
 Wow. What happened? 6.5.0 is without a doubt the buggiest release yet!

Actually I'm not the only one to think it's the best release so far...

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28115

Sorry to say works for me, but it does, cover art and all.


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[slim] Re: 6.5.0 - No Album Art in random mix

2006-10-02 Thread nelamvr6

Ben Sandee;142123 Wrote: 
 On 10/2/06, nelamvr6 nelamvr6.2f2f7z1159817401 (AT) no-mx (DOT)
 forums.slimdevices.com
 wrote:
 
 
  Wow. What happened? 6.5.0 is without a doubt the buggiest release
 yet!
 
 
 That's a great way to start off with some goodwill to the volunteers
 who
 make the product what it is.
 
 Ben

Well, I'm sorry, but it is. I have had a LOT more problems with this
release than with ANY previous release.

And I'm not a newbie, I am a BIG squeezebox supporter, not just here
but on a bunch of forums. Check my post history, I'm not a complainer.

But I gotta call a spade a spade. And look at the forum posts recently.
A LOT of problems with 6.5.0.

Now having said all that, I reread my post, and you're right, I at
least could have phrased it better. I really do appreciate the work the
developers do.

That's why I'm hopeful I can get help with this problem.

I'm gonna go back and edit my original post. I guess it was mostly my
frustration talking.


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[slim] Re: 6.5.0 - No Album Art in random mix

2006-10-02 Thread nelamvr6

OK, let me please start again. Sorry about that.

Does anyone have any ideas?

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[slim] Re: 6.5.0 - No Album Art in random mix

2006-10-02 Thread Mark Lanctot

nelamvr6;142129 Wrote: 
 And look at the forum posts recently. A LOT of problems with 6.5.0.

Doesn't seem to be any more or less than other big releases like 6.2.0
and 6.3.0?

What's weird is that the problems are not at all related to the major
architectural changes in 6.5.0, notably split scanner and MySQL.  They
mostly seem to be about track duplicates.

I wish I could help though, I do understand your frustration and it was
good of you to back down a bit.


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Re: [slim] Re: 6.5.0 - No Album Art in random mix

2006-10-02 Thread kdf

Quoting nelamvr6 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



Does anyone have any ideas?


The 'now playing' section is updated via ajax.  As such, it is  
patheticly incapable of giving much help when something goes wrong.  
The tracing is an ongoing effort, so while I can't say that I've seen  
the issue, I can say there have been many changes to the skin to  
handle various potential hurdles.  It would be worth trying a 6.5.1  
nightly build before going through to painful process of tracking down  
exactly what might be missing.


-kdf

ps.  a great majority of the 'bugs' being reported are in fact all a  
combined problem due to upgrade issues that weren't properly handled.   
If you did an upgrade from 6.3.1, it is also worth getting rid of  
Plugins and HTML directory trees and reinstalling.  Old plugins/page  
templates are a nuisance.



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[slim] Re: 6.5.0 Problem

2006-10-02 Thread MillmoorRon

A bit more info:

ERROR: Failed to detect server IP address. Invalid argument

ERROR: objectForUrl: Null track request!

Backtrace:

frame 0: Slim::Schema::objectForUrl
(E:\Data\SlimServer\server/Plugins/TrackStat/Storage.pm line 128)
frame 1: Plugins::TrackStat::Storage::objectForUrl
(E:\Data\SlimServer\server/Plugins/TrackStat/Plugin.pm line 2963)
frame 2: Plugins::TrackStat::Plugin::startTimingNewSong
(E:\Data\SlimServer\server/Plugins/TrackStat/Plugin.pm line 2677)
frame 3: Plugins::TrackStat::Plugin::playCommand
(E:\Data\SlimServer\server/Plugins/TrackStat/Plugin.pm line 2905)
frame 4: Plugins::TrackStat::Plugin::commandCallback65
(/PerlApp/Slim/Control/Request.pm line 1640)
frame 5: Slim::Control::Request::notify
(/PerlApp/Slim/Control/Request.pm line 753)
frame 6: Slim::Control::Request::checkNotifications (slimserver.pl
line 464)
frame 7: main::idle (slimserver.pl line 35)
frame 8: PerlSvc::Startup (perlsvc.pl line 1482)
frame 9: PerlSvc::_startup (slimserver.pl line 0)
frame 10: (eval) (slimserver.pl line 0)

Timer Task  0.5 :  0.56283   
Plugins::LazySearch2::onFindTimer
Response Time   0.5 :  0.56302
Request Task0.5 :  0.54156Execute:
Slim::Control::Commands::buttonCommand
Request Task0.5 :  0.54225Execute:
Slim::Control::Commands::irCommand
Response Time   0.5 :  0.54296
Request Task0.5 :  2.87201Execute:
Slim::Control::Commands::buttonCommand
Request Task0.5 :  2.87269Execute:
Slim::Control::Commands::irCommand
Response Time   0.5 :  2.87340
Timer Late  0.5 :  2.62038
Timer Late  0.5 :  2.19853
Timer Late  0.5 :  1.21976
Request Task0.5 :  2.29887Notify:
Plugins::DynamicPlayList::Plugin::commandCallback65
Response Time   0.5 :  2.43785
Timer Late  0.5 :  1.67452
Timer Late  0.5 :  1.52748
Request Task0.5 :  2.48270Notify:
Plugins::DynamicPlayList::Plugin::commandCallback65
Response Time   0.5 :  2.59810
Timer Late  0.5 :  2.22875
Timer Late  0.5 :  1.73911
Timer Late  0.5 :  1.72874
Request Task0.5 :  2.31524Notify:
Plugins::DynamicPlayList::Plugin::commandCallback65
Response Time   0.5 :  2.44339
Timer Late  0.5 :  2.42638
Timer Late  0.5 :  2.06636
Timer Late  0.5 :  1.91238
Request Task0.5 :  2.51113Notify:
Plugins::DynamicPlayList::Plugin::commandCallback65
Response Time   0.5 :  2.63540
Timer Late  0.5 :  2.70331
Timer Late  0.5 :  1.88466
Timer Late  0.5 :  1.36758
Request Task0.5 :  0.56329Notify:
Plugins::TrackStat::Plugin::commandCallback65
Response Time   0.5 :  0.71692
Request Task0.5 :  6.99087Notify:
Plugins::DynamicPlayList::Plugin::commandCallback65
Response Time   0.5 :  7.26327
Timer Late  0.5 :  7.36683
Timer Late  0.5 :  7.00764
Timer Late  0.5 :  5.90682
Request Task0.5 :  0.82096Notify:
Slim::Player::Playlist::modifyPlaylistCallback
Request Task0.5 :  2.31407Notify:
Plugins::DynamicPlayList::Plugin::commandCallback65
Response Time   0.5 :  2.43974
Timer Late  0.5 :  2.07012
Timer Late  0.5 :  1.95494
Timer Late  0.5 :  1.43898
Request Task0.5 :  2.36760Notify:
Plugins::DynamicPlayList::Plugin::commandCallback65
Response Time   0.5 :  2.47757
Timer Late  0.5 :  2.12041
Timer Late  0.5 :  1.71317
Request Task0.5 :  2.09371Notify:
Plugins::DynamicPlayList::Plugin::commandCallback65
Response Time   0.5 :  2.09825
Timer Late  0.5 :  1.67301
Timer Late  0.5 :  1.60420
Request Task0.5 :  2.09777Notify:
Plugins::DynamicPlayList::Plugin::commandCallback65
Response Time   0.5 :  2.24321
Timer Late  0.5 :  2.04331
Timer Late  0.5 :  1.68247
Request Task0.5 :  2.10994Notify:
Plugins::DynamicPlayList::Plugin::commandCallback65
Response Time   0.5 :  2.23681
Timer Late  0.5 :  2.12441
Timer Late  0.5 :  2.02855
Timer Late  0.5 :  0.62178
Request Task0.5 :  2.06020Notify:
Plugins::DynamicPlayList::Plugin::commandCallback65
Response Time   0.5 :  2.21443
Timer Late  0.5 :  1.70048
Timer Late  0.5 :  1.49155
Request Task0.5 :  2.17592Notify:
Plugins::DynamicPlayList::Plugin::commandCallback65
Response Time   0.5 :  2.28973
Timer Late  0.5 :  2.02540
Timer Late  0.5 :  1.95717
Request Task0.5 :  2.00991Notify:
Plugins::DynamicPlayList::Plugin::commandCallback65
Response Time   0.5 :  2.16045
Timer Late  0.5 :  2.01647
Timer Late  0.5 :  1.76358
Request Task0.5 :  2.04082Notify:
Plugins::DynamicPlayList::Plugin::commandCallback65
Response Time   0.5 :  2.17983
Timer Late  0.5 :  2.14218
Timer Late  0.5 :  2.00342
Timer Late  0.5 :  1.68494
Timer Late  0.5 :  1.37821

[slim] Re: 6.5.0 - No Album Art in random mix

2006-10-02 Thread aubuti

You don't mention what you've done, so I'll start with the obvious. (1)
Do a complete clear and rescan of your music library. (2) Force your
browser to clear its cache. (3) If that doesn't work, try trashing the
database cache file to make sure it starts fresh. I haven't had to do
this yet on 6.5, so I'm not sure what the name of the relvant file is
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