Re: [slim] Product Longevity
iPhone;429434 Wrote: Europe wants it all. The lowest price and if it fails after the warranty but before I think it should I want a free one. At the most if the law even made a little sense you should only receive fair market value for a 3 year old used SB3. Did I mention it's electronics. I think that's a little bit to general. For example, in Germany you have an implied warranty of 2 years and the reseller is responsible. The point is, in the first 6 month it is supposed that the fault do already exist when the unit was delivered and the reseller has to prove if not. That's easy for the customer. But for the rest of the time the customer has to prove that the fault do already exist during delivery. That's not easy for the customer. This warranty is based on an European act! But in most cases the manufacturer provide a limited guarantee which is better and the issue is handled by the manufacturer and not the reseller. -- jo-wie SB Classic, SC 7.3.3 auf GigaByte STA/C mit VIA C7 1GHz, 1GB RAM, 250 GB 2,5 HD, Ubuntu Desktop 8.04 last.fm/user/jo-wie jo-wie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17952 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64114 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Product Longevity
From what I understand about this process, it is not enough to show that many SB3s are still running after 3 years. A retailer has no responsibility to replace a product that has simply reached the end of its life, even if the life of your particular SB3 is shorter than average. You would need to show that the failure was due to a latent fault present at purchase, or that the SB3 lacked the expected durability. So a better question to ask here might be whether anyone who bought an SB3 thought it was an investment that should last many years, or whether they thought it might reach its normal end of life within a few years? -- htrd Toby Dickenson Search eBay for music matching your last.fm profile; www.exitahead.co.uk htrd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3710 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64114 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Product Longevity
seanadams;429442 Wrote: So I hardly see how it's fair that a retailer, who if they're doing well has collected perhaps 20-30% on the whole deal, should be liable for the full value of the product ages after they've sold it. I'm not defending this law, but playing devil's advocate for a moment, perhaps it's an indirect way of weeding out products that routinely fail to give reasonable service. Over time, multiple retailers will notice that they're hurting because of repeated failures of a particular item, and make a business decision to stop selling them. Eventually said item disappears from the marketplace, to everyone's benefit (apart from the manufacturer of said shoddy item). BTW: Let me make it absolutely clear that I'm NOT suggesting the Squeezebox falls into this category! Back to reality: I reckon the way some people on this thread are interpreting this law is not realistic. It seems that quite a few UK laws are open to unreasonable interpretation by the man in the street, in a way that was never intended when it was written. If this specific dispute went to court, I strongly suspect that DABS would win. Gooner is just unlucky: sometimes sh*t happens. -- cliveb Transporter - ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64114 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Product Longevity
jo-wie;429466 Wrote: The point is, in the first 6 month it is supposed that the fault do already exist when the unit was delivered and the reseller has to prove if not. That's easy for the customer. But for the rest of the time the customer has to prove that the fault do already exist during delivery. That's not easy for the customer. The (simplest) reality about this EU act is that the reseller is only responsible for delivering the consumer a good that conforms to its standard use and advertised specifications (could be colour, noise, width, power consumption, whatever ...). A hardware fault, unless it existed at the moment of the delivery, is not endorsed by this EU act. -- sebp System : Mac Mini for ripping to FLAC (XLD) SqueezeCenter 7.3 running on a ReadyNAS NV+ Living room : Transporter NuForce IA-7 v2 KEF iQ9 Bedroom : Squeezebox 3 Beresford DAC NAD C315BEE KEF iQ3 Kitchen : SB Receiver Trends Audio TA10.1 Celestion F10 Bathroom : SB Boom 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/sebp) sebp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11768 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64114 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Product Longevity
My issue here is not that I need to replace this particular SB3 as I already have. It actually failed around the 2 year mark and that means basic cost of ownership was around £100 per annum. I expected it to last longer. Now, the law (which I didn't define) states that the supplier, not manufacturer is liable if the goods fail in an unreasonable length of time. I admit I have had some benefit from the product, so I'm not expecting a full refund, but I would accept compensation for future loss of enjoyment from the product. So if we expect an SB3 to last 5 years and it died after 2, then an amount of compensation for the remaining years seems reasonable. Else they could finance the repair of it. Cliveb makes an excellent point and in the long run, this shift in power back to the consumer may result in better quality goods in the long run. They don't make things like they used to :) By the way, the state of the world economy is not my responsibility. I already pay in excess of £30k a year tax which goes to support the millions of useless pen-pushing administrators in the non-productive government offices. Don't get me started ;) -- Gooner Gooner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5056 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64114 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Who's going to fill Sean's shoes - technically?
MrSinatra;429318 Wrote: however, try an experiment... lend a SB to someone who isn't into computers, but uses them for email and www. don't help them at all, and see how far they get, how long it takes, and/or gauge their reactions. Lend a setup to someone that isn't interested and it won't get used. Lend it to someone that -wants- to learn and wants what it has to offer and it will happen. MrSinatra;429318 Wrote: here's a perfect example... my dad, who is fairly old but loves computers and music on them and the stereo, does not understand things like closing the web browser does NOT turn off SC. . winamp however, is something he does understand, and if a plugin could power the SBR, he'd be much happier, and i think find it all more appealing. true, winamp+plugin wouldn't do everything SC does, but he would never use most of that stuff anyway. So he can't get his head around closing an interface tool, but he can get his head around closing an actual software player? Sorry, but thats just weird :) -- funkstar my collection: *1*x boom *2*x controller, *1*x receiver *2*x sb3 (sliver/black, *1*x sb2 wired (silver), *1*x sb (black) *1*x slimp3 (with rear shield) interested in any others if you have them! funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63775 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Updated Squeezebox products?
funkstar;429218 Wrote: That is assuming they made him sign a NDA in the first place. You don't always have to do this for focus groups. I work for a company that occasionally does focus groups, and I have watched dozens of them over the years. Even moderated a couple myself. Never seen one involving unreleased products that did not require the participants to sign an NDA. -- TiredLegs TiredLegs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63727 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Updated Squeezebox products?
TiredLegs;429490 Wrote: I work for a company that occasionally does focus groups, and I have watched dozens of them over the years. Even moderated a couple myself. Never seen one involving unreleased products that did not require the participants to sign an NDA. I've been in various focus groups for the car industry. I got to see the Mazda CX-7, Audi A5 (all expenses paid trip to Berlin for that one) and Vauxhall Insignia (the only one where we didn't know which car manufacturer it was for) long before they were on sale and never had to sign any NDA. They were of course very strict about making sure no-one had any photographic or recording equipment with them when they saw the cars or discussed them. -- DoomWolf DoomWolf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63727 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Foobar / Squeezebox CLI integration ?
Hi all, I'm mainly using squeezecenter to play my music collection. However, i'm also using Foobar as another library management tool to maintain my libraries (very fast and highly customisable!). It would be very interesting to send simple CLI commands from Foobar to control playback on Squeezebox players, ie from Foobar: - Choose Squeezebox Player; - Play / Pause current song in Squeezebox; - Add song to current playlist. This CLI mechanism is currently used by Orange CD Catalog (www.firetongue.com) to control squeezebox. Any information if some Foobar script or module is available for this usage? Regards -- volpone SB3 - Duet - Boom - Ipeng (Iphone) | Squeezecenter 7.3.3 | ReadyNas Pro (4.2.5 XRAID2) volpone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16531 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64142 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Product Longevity
seanadams;429442 Wrote: If the UK really wants this kind of coverage built in to every product that is sold there, then people are effectively saying they want to be forcibly charged for an extended warranty with every purchase - because that's the only way that this policy could be sustained. This law has been in effect in the UK for at least 30 years. The reality is that people rarely take advantage of it, except when something breaks early on. In fact most people in the UK seem to think that everything has a 12 warranty and nothing more. I suspect that if this went to the small claims court that Dabs wouldn't even bother to contest it. It just isn't worth their while. In the UK you can take a small claims court action just by filling in forms online and paying as little as £25. People rarely do though. Most of the people I do know who have taken an action against a large company won, simply because the company didn't bother to contest the claim. -- andynormancx Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64114 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
amey01;429227 Wrote: While using SlimControl tonight, I thought of another enhancement/suggestion. It'd be great if it had the ability to Play next and move up and down in a playlist - just like SlimRemote (if you've seen that). Maybe by the same method - press and hold on a song [for instance] presents a menu to either add to playlist (obviously),or play next, etc. amey - these features are in the version I am about to release. In the playlist (player window): You will be able to move tracks up/down by one, to the top/bottom or 'play next' or remove. In the browser window: You will be able to insert your selection after the current track. -- Locuth Use your PDA as SqueezeBox remote -- http://www.sciatec.de/SlimControl Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Product Longevity
I bought my original SB2 back in 2005 and it worked flawlessly until Nov last year when it just died one evening. Fortunately it was only the power supply - so a £5 replacement original supply from Patrick at At-tunes got me up and running again. My Duet, Receivers and Boom are less than a year old so I cant really comment on those. Warranties are a difficult one. Any specific time is quite arbitrary, and I think you should expect a reasonable life time for a product, which is what the UK law details. I certainly wouldnt want to spend the best part of £300 on a Duet if I only expected it to last a year - but how long should it last - 3 years, 5, 10 I certainly wasnt a happy bunny after my original ipods battery want down to only holding charge for 10 mins within 18 months of purchase. Not what I expected after paying the £399 at the time. I know battteries are consumer items that dont last forever - but would expect more than this (especially as it wasnt replaceable at the time). Dont forget that companies (and I certainly dont include Slim/Logitech here) can cut corners by using cheaper parts that could outlast the warranty but not have an especially long life. -- bradcook bradcook's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1033 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64114 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Comparison between iPeng and Controller?
I tried the N810 way (nice product, I use it regularly to surf from the couch, chat with friends, stuff like that) but was left really unimpressed by its remote capabilities with SqueezeCenter. Now I'm wondering if a Controller would be the right way to go or if iPeng offers a better user experience, with a larger screen, etc. Anyone tried both that could offer his/her opinion? Thanks in advance. PS I have two Squeezeboxes in two different zones of the house, plan on adding another couple sooner or later. -- gorman gorman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64145 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Locuth;429504 Wrote: amey - these features are in the version I am about to release. In the playlist (player window): You will be able to move tracks up/down by one, to the top/bottom or 'play next' or remove. In the browser window: You will be able to insert your selection after the current track. Hallo Sebastian, somehow if you have more than one player to choose it can not be selected. I have 4 players on my softwarebased installation. It is Squeezeplay beta and Softsqueeze at the eeebox and the same at my laptop. If i open all four the Squeezecenter shows four players and i can choose them differently. Before you manage only with ip number. Now seems some change in direction to the Mac Adress. Seems the IP is no more used? If i open One Player at Laptop and one at EEBOX Slimcontrol shows only 2 Players from EEEBOX but they are the same somehow. Must be test with a multiroom instalation maybee? -- arztde arztde's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29528 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Visually Impaired
These days, it's rare to get surprised in a good way when you buy a product. I was hoping for minimal accessibility with the Squeezebox Boom, and I found a product that surpassed all my expectations. I was afraid the setup would be difficult for my sighted assistant, after I'd read the quickstart guide. He was done in thirty minutes, and I was on Squeezenetwork, independently setting up all my accounts with the Slimdevices partners. Within the hour, I was adding favorites, and listening to music! :-) I wish all web developers would take their cues from the Squeezenetwork site! It is one of the most accessible sites I've ever found, and of special note is the on-site player. I was able to do things with my Slacker and Pandora stations from the Squeezenetwork site, that I've been unable to do from the original sites! Every button is clearly labeled on the player, so that i can control the Boom from my computer, which is something i could not do with the other wifi radio I own. This weekend, I hope to explore the actual player more, and see if it's going to be accessible without the computer. But even if it isn't, I've learned that I can buy a universal remote, and access all my favorite music that way. So either way, this is the best $300 I've spent in a long time. I think it would be very simple and inexpensive to give the Boom even more accessibility features. If I could make suggestions, I would add; 1. the option for click sounds to the scroll wheel 2. speaking menus where the options are consistent (for example, home now playing etc.) 3. speaking channel numbers I'll let you know how things are going as they develop. But again, thank you to the developers of the Boom for a wonderful product! -- Jena Jena's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30672 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63422 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Comparison between iPeng and Controller?
I've got both and find myself using iPeng on my iPod Touch more than the Controller. It's nicer to use because of the larger screen and touch abilities. However, the Controller does also give the option of using it as a portable player which is nice if you want to lie in bed listening to a wider range of music than the iPod can hold (although I have to limit the bitrate for the Controller as it won't stream FLAC files reliably - a separate issue discussed elsewhere on the forum). iPeng does have the portable player functionality on its roadmap for a future update, so at that point the Controller may become redundant, especially as my iPod seems to have better wireless ability and it's cheaper to buy an 8Gb Touch + iPeng than a Controller. The other thing to remember is that the iPod is more than just an alternative Controller. It can browse the web, check email, play games, play video, offer other streaming music services and the Appstore allows for many more possibilities for use. If I had neither and was going to buy only one, it would be the iPod + iPeng (sorry, Logitech). -- DoomWolf DoomWolf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64145 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
arztde;429397 Wrote: I just keep a smile now. I can say only WOW for the future. Yeah arztde - you are the single lucky user who can try version 0.94 already. And your Squeezebox arrived here today. I set it up and it works like a charm with SlimControl 0.94. Somebody said there would be lag compared to the duet controller. I don't see that. SlimControl is as fast as the controller (in my opinion). Some screen shots to all of you awaiting SC 0.94: +---+ |Filename: V1.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7536| +---+ -- Locuth Use your PDA as SqueezeBox remote -- http://www.sciatec.de/SlimControl Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Comparison between iPeng and Controller?
gorman;429516 Wrote: Now I'm wondering if a Controller would be the right way to go or if iPeng offers a better user experience, with a larger screen, etc. Anyone tried both that could offer his/her opinion? If you mean using iPeng on an iPhone or iPod Touch, then I think you'll find a lot of opinion already expressed in these forums. A search on iPeng (with or without 'SBC') should turn up plenty. I haven't been following the threads closely because I don't own an iAnything and don't plan to, but from my casual reading of the opinions I gather that most users think iPeng on an iPhone or Touch is *way* better than the SBC. Not just for screen size, but especially for interface and reliability. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64145 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Shortcut to syncronize
gorman;429402 Wrote: Unfortunately Synchronize doesn't appear among the choices of what you can put in the top menu. Something to add I guess.That surprises me, because I know it's possible to put Synchronize in the top menu on the Controller. I did so almost as soon as I got my first Duet, because I sync different players quite often. But then again, when I do so I tend to have the Controller handy. I don't really recall ever using the sync from the Boom menu, so I'm not disputing whether it can be moved to the top menu; it just seems odd to me that the option would be available for the Controller but not for other devices. It certainly seems like something that could be done in the firmware easily enough, so maybe all it will take is an enhancement request (and a little time to get it implemented). -- Dogberry2 Dogberry2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64125 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
arztde;429520 Wrote: Hallo Sebastian, somehow if you have more than one player to choose it can not be selected. I have 4 players on my softwarebased installation. It is Squeezeplay beta and Softsqueeze at the eeebox and the same at my laptop. I fixed the bug just a couple of minutes ago. I'll send you the fixed version pretty soon. -- Locuth Use your PDA as SqueezeBox remote -- http://www.sciatec.de/SlimControl Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Product Longevity
andynormancx;429498 Wrote: In the UK you can take a small claims court action just by filling in forms online and paying as little as £25. People rarely do though. Most of the people I do know who have taken an action against a large company won, simply because the company didn't bother to contest the claim. You should bear in mind that if the other party does bother to turn and wins the case then you may be liable to some or all of their costs at the discretion of the court. -- nwplace nwplace's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16529 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64114 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Quick way to add a CD to library without rescanning
Hello. I know its been discussed here but I can't find the thread. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! BTW, I'm using iTunes on XP. -- newy newy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18530 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64148 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Radio plugins gone
Hi folks The list of radio plugins has disappeared from the SCenter menu. The server version is 7.3.1. I am using Softsqueeze and until yesterday I had 8 plugins showing up in SC. Today I connected an SB Duet, registered it with SqueezeNetwork. And now the plugins (for both players) disappeared - a coincidence ? Does Squeezenetwork conflict with the local SC streaming? Does the SB Duet conflict with the local SC streaming? -- Locuth Use your PDA as SqueezeBox remote -- http://www.sciatec.de/SlimControl Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64149 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox3 slow response
I also believe this has nothing to do with the speedstep technology. I think radish is right about the drivers/bios/chipset has some issues. But to other Eee Box owners, help yourself, create a technical inquiry to Asus on this issue. Regards, Mads -- madsandrup madsandrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20482 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53686 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Radio plugins gone
Locuth;429543 Wrote: Hi folks The list of radio plugins has disappeared from the SCenter menu. The server version is 7.3.1. I am using Softsqueeze and until yesterday I had 8 plugins showing up in SC. Today I connected an SB Duet, registered it with SqueezeNetwork. And now the plugins (for both players) disappeared - a coincidence ? Does Squeezenetwork conflict with the local SC streaming? Does the SB Duet conflict with the local SC streaming? If I'm understanding you, you are connecting your SB player to SN (not SC7 running on your computer) and you are attempting to utilize your plugins? If this is correct, there are no plugins for SN. Plugins are for use with your SC7 server running on your computer. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64149 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Product Longevity
nwplace;429538 Wrote: You should bear in mind that if the other party does bother to turn and wins the case then you may be liable to some or all of their costs at the discretion of the court. Which is why having such vague terms and ambiguity is just plain silly! :) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64114 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Radio plugins gone
No - I understand, that I can only use the plugins when I am not connected to SN. Actually the player complete disappears from SqueeceCenter when connected to SN. I unregistered all players from SN completely. They show up in SC but in the main-menu I have no radio plugins for either player. In the attached image I marked the section I am talking about. It used to contain 8 entries. (sorry , only the german skin) +---+ |Filename: Unbenannt.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7538| +---+ -- Locuth Use your PDA as SqueezeBox remote -- http://www.sciatec.de/SlimControl Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64149 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox on twitter
Hi Mark, Well, let's see... how about: Tips from the wiki. Interesting threads from the forum. Info about the various music services. Useful plug-ins. Reviews or comments about Squeezebox products from around the web. Deals. New software/feature announcements. New hardware announcements. Music news and deals. -- MeSue Sue http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64131 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Product Longevity
seanadams;429442 Wrote: So I hardly see how it's fair that a retailer, who if they're doing well has collected perhaps 20-30% on the whole deal, should be liable for the full value of the product ages after they've sold it. They're not liable for the full value. The law is vague but it basically says that the retailer is liable, for up to six years, for what a reasonable person would expect. In practice, if we could assume that a reasonable person would expect a squeezebox to last four years given that it is a premium product and that it's mode of use means it sits somewhere and does it's job. If the squeezebox failed after three years the retailer would only be liable for 25% of the value. The retailer is only liable for the usage you have been deprived of not the usage you have had. This is a reason why many products cost more in the UK. I'm sure it's a cost that many small businesses competing online underestimate. Richard -- Richie Richie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=88 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64114 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Locuth;429537 Wrote: I fixed the bug just a couple of minutes ago. I'll send you the fixed version pretty soon. I did found a next bug. If you have large playlist. I choose a collection of an artist with 138 albums. As result comes Error loading playlist. In the old version was a playlist of 200 songs than. Anyways it starts to play. Maybe it is an idea for large playlists to build them dynamic. Thanks for posting. My written english is so that knowone understand the sense... Sorry about this. -- arztde arztde's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29528 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
arztde;429557 Wrote: I did found a next bug. If you have large playlist. I choose a collection of an artist with 138 albums. As result comes Error loading playlist. In the old version was a playlist of 200 songs than. Anyways it starts to play. Maybe it is an idea for large playlists to build them dynamic. Thanks for posting. My written english is so that knowone understand the sense... Sorry about this. Does this happen very often ? Are you using an internet server or a server at home? Try a longer timeout (Settings) Good luck :) -- Locuth Use your PDA as SqueezeBox remote -- http://www.sciatec.de/SlimControl Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Quick way to add a CD to library without rescanning
toby10;429549 Wrote: Create a folder within your music folder, usually people call this folder New Music. Add the files or rip your CD to this folder. These will be immediately available to you via SC7 Music Library Music Folder No rescan needed using Music Folders but I think this method ignores TAGS and can only utilize simple file name structure (like accessing music files via My Computer *folders*). I just put the music in whatever folder I'd normally put it, then use the Music Folder method you describe to browse to it. It doesn't exactly ignore tags, but it won't report the tag data in the pane where you're browsing. If you actually add the files to the playlist/queue, you'll see that it's reading tag data. It also adds those files to the database, at least when running under Ubuntu. -- atrocity atrocity's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16009 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64148 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Locuth;429558 Wrote: Does this happen very often ? Are you using an internet server or a server at home? Try a longer timeout (Settings) Good luck :) I will try again. At usual i do not load such a big Playlist. A message appears: Out of memory. And application hangs. Ok 138 Albums in 1 playlist. But anyways songs apear (play) in correct order. I need to reboot the HTC -- arztde arztde's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29528 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
arztde;429563 Wrote: I will try again. At usual i do not load such a big Playlist. A message appears: Out of memory. And application hangs. Ok 138 Albums in 1 playlist. But anyways songs apear (play) in correct order. I need to reboot the HTC arztzde - please try again to open the playlist. After a fresh restart of SlimControl. Out of memory is very strange... is that a system message or from SlimControl? -- Locuth Use your PDA as SqueezeBox remote -- http://www.sciatec.de/SlimControl Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Locuth;429565 Wrote: arztzde - please try again to open the playlist. After a fresh restart of SlimControl. Out of memory is very strange... is that a system message or from SlimControl? After a reboot 200 Songs are in Playlist. It was a SlimControl Message. I did try it twice and now it goes Timeout 6000. It takes also some time until the songs appear in Squeezecenter. This are more than 500 Songs in one playlist. Another but it was in the version before the same: In search is no German umlaut. If you search Söhne Mannheims. It goes to the next artis but not Söhne or Soehne -- arztde arztde's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29528 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
arztde;429566 Wrote: After a reboot 200 Songs are in Playlist. It was a SlimControl Message. I did try it twice and now it goes Timeout 6000. It takes also some time until the songs appear in Squeezecenter. This are more than 500 Songs in one playlist. Another but it was in the version before the same: In search is no German umlaut. If you search Söhne Mannheims. It goes to the next artis but not Söhne or Soehne Yeah the Umlaute - I am not using the keyboard search so much. So I haven't noticed. Probably in the next release ;-) -- Locuth Use your PDA as SqueezeBox remote -- http://www.sciatec.de/SlimControl Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Shortcut to syncronize
I might have missed it, but I specifically looked for it. I'm using the Fishbone skin. -- gorman gorman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64125 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Shortcut to syncronize
gorman;429573 Wrote: I might have missed it, but I specifically looked for it. I'm using the Fishbone skin. I don't think you're missing anything -- I'm pretty sure you're correct that it's not there. It's certainly not there in the default skin. Like Dogberry2, I'm surprised that Sync is not among the top-level options in the player UI, because it is definitely an option on the SB Controller. It would be good to see if there is already an enhancement request for this filed in bugs.slimdevices.com. If there is, vote for it, and if not, go ahead and file it. In the interim, I like Siduhe's suggestion about using The Synchronizer, which definitely *is* available for placing in the top-level menu in the player UI. That is, of course, after you install the Synchronizer plugin. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64125 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Product Longevity
andynormancx wrote: toby10;429283 Wrote: Maybe some details on your situation would result in some more insightful responses. I think the SB3's have a 2 yr mfr warranty. I'm guessing DABS is a reseller of SB players? Not sure why they would be involved past a possible 30 day return policy. Looks like you are thinking about it from a US point of view. Dabs are a UK company and UK consumer law is _very_ different to the US. In the UK it is the retailers responsibility if a product fails before a within a reasonable period. What the reasonable period is deemed to be can extend to years, not just the typical US 30 days return policy. Isn't that an EU directive? Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Radio plugins gone
Locuth;429551 Wrote: No - I understand, that I can only use the plugins when I am not connected to SN. Actually the player complete disappears from SqueeceCenter when connected to SN. I unregistered all players from SN completely. They show up in SC but in the main-menu I have no radio plugins for either player. In the attached image I marked the section I am talking about. It used to contain 8 entries. (sorry , only the german skin) Is your SN login info entered into SC7 SN? But even without a SN login on SC you still should get the basic Internet Radio Menu items. Seems odd. Unregistering your players from SN, though unnecessary, might possibly be a culprit but I dunno. :( Maybe try re-registering a player, then bring that player up in SC and see if you at least get the basic Internet Radio menu? -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64149 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Podcast Info Please
Welcome to the Squeezebox family! Sounds like you're enjoying your experience so far. As far as Podcasts go, I have found that using Mediafly is the best way to manage my Podcasts. Since Squeezebox has Mediafly capability, you can set up all of your podcasts on Mediafly and access then through your Squeezebox. The added benefit to using Mediafly is that you can also use it to access your Podcasts through a regular web browser when that suits you. I currently access Mediafly through: Web browser Squeezebox Chumby iPod Touch Here's an RSS feed of my Podcasts: http://www.mediafly.com/RSS/Users/ChrisNY/MyQueue -- ChrisNY ChrisNY's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5004 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63854 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Product Longevity
peter;429580 Wrote: andynormancx wrote: toby10;429283 Wrote: Maybe some details on your situation would result in some more insightful responses. I think the SB3's have a 2 yr mfr warranty. I'm guessing DABS is a reseller of SB players? Not sure why they would be involved past a possible 30 day return policy. Looks like you are thinking about it from a US point of view. Dabs are a UK company and UK consumer law is _very_ different to the US. In the UK it is the retailers responsibility if a product fails before a within a reasonable period. What the reasonable period is deemed to be can extend to years, not just the typical US 30 days return policy. Isn't that an EU directive? It was in place back in 1976, before we implemented the later EU directive. -- andynormancx Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64114 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Locuth;429568 Wrote: Yeah the Umlaute - I am not using the keyboard search so much. So I haven't noticed. Probably in the next release ;-) Hehehe its only finwork what i see here. A Space key? :) -- arztde arztde's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29528 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Who's going to fill Sean's shoes - technically?
call it whatever you want... the point isn't these antedotes, its that SC is not suitable for mass market, like say tivo is. if something could provide more mainstream apps to power the hardware, that would help move product imo. -- MrSinatra www.lion-radio.org using: sb2 sbc (my home) / sbr (parent's home) - w/sc 7.3.3b - win xp pro sp3 ie8 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid1 - d-link dir-655 MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63775 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Podcast Info Please
Hi ChrisNY, Thank you for the reply, did not know about Mediafly so have now joined up thanks to your link... Regards Jay -- JayLaFunk JayLaFunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63854 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Who's going to fill Sean's shoes - technically?
MrSinatra;429608 Wrote: call it whatever you want... the point isn't these antedotes, Maybe anecdote? Unless you're suggesting the conversation is getting toxic. -- Goodsounds Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63775 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Who's going to fill Sean's shoes - technically?
two shay ;) -- MrSinatra www.lion-radio.org using: sb2 sbc (my home) / sbr (parent's home) - w/sc 7.3.3b - win xp pro sp3 ie8 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid1 - d-link dir-655 MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63775 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
arztde;429593 Wrote: Hehehe its only finwork what i see here. A Space key? :) yeah - space key too. How do like the keyboard. I really never use it much. Only 2-3 letters, and I find the album/artist I am looking for. -- Locuth Use your PDA as SqueezeBox remote -- http://www.sciatec.de/SlimControl Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Radio plugins gone
Locuth;429666 Wrote: I'll check if it is... as soon as I am back home. The radio items where there before I even knew what SN was, let alone register there. Correct, as I said, you should get basic Internet Radio menu's and playback even without a SN account. If your player is on SC and you have your SN account login on SC then you don't even have to have SN registered players as SC will do so automatically (you don't even need a PIN). Maybe try re-booting your server? -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64149 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA controller solution
Locuth;429664 Wrote: yeah - space key too. How do like the keyboard. I really never use it much. Only 2-3 letters, and I find the album/artist I am looking for. Keys are near the same i think than in the versions before. On the HTC big enough for my fingers that i do not need the stick. I do not know it is the material of the big playlist i am testing. But it seems by network it is less stable than before. Squeezeplay hangs more often. Maybe i will try it. With Softsqueeze. Today i did bought by German Amazon ( http://www.amazon.de )my first Squeeze Hardware. They have a spechial offer for the Classic. 164,97 Euro this is 230,37 $ and include free transport. Amazon.com offersthe same for $265.15 as special offer. Ok anyways tomorrow i will test stability with Squeeze hardware too. Maybee its realy only my network or Squeezeplay. -- arztde arztde's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29528 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62486 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Rhapsody Error for the last 2 days
I have been getting the following error since Thursday: Audio stream failed, skipping to next track Nothing else happens and no music plays. It happens irrespective of how I choose tracks from within Rhapsody (Channels, my libray, search, etc). I tested out the PC-app and it is able to connect to and stream from Rhapsody just fine. Also, this error is present irrespective of whether I use SqueezeCenter or SqueezeNetwork. I have had occasional hiccups in Rhapsody service over the last year, but usually I had to just upgrade firmware on my SB3 or just wait a few hours for the fix from Rhapsody. This time, its been down for the last 2 days now. Since I don't see similar messages being posted, I assume this is not a widespread issue. Hopefully there is some quick fix I can apply? BTW, Classical.com and Napster both are streaming fine to this SB3. Its just Rhapsody that is having the problem. Thanks. -- Krishna FLAC (DIY mini-ITX server + ClarkConnect + SC7) - SB3 - Primare I-30 - Sonus Faber Concertinos Krishna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16041 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64174 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
