Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
Well, I've resorted to having everything transcoded to mp3 so I'm not streaming anything bulkier than 320. My PC can probably handle the workload better than my network has been able to, and so far this weekend I haven't had a problem. -- GeeJay GeeJay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
The buffering behavior that you've identified would explain rebuffering issues around track transitions. Whenever I've noticed it, it's been in the middle of a track. Perhaps this indicates a network issue for me rather than an issue with the buffering scheme used for the SB. But on the other hand, I don't know why these issues only cropped up for me with 7.3.3. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 3 Booms, 1 duet, 1 receiver. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeCenter 7.3.3, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 27,462 songs, 2,276 albums, 434 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Portable FLAC Players
jimzak;443331 Wrote: > Cowon is a nice piece of kit but the battery change issues on all their > devices holds me back. FYI--if you still have your X5, the Rockbox bootloader supports solid-state drives (the Cowon firmware does not). Replacing the mechanical drive with a solid state drive should help with battery consumption enormously, even if the battery is old and won't take much of a charge. That's certainly my long-term maintenance plan. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65861 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter - Fussy Ethernet? Help!
On 7/25/2009 5:55 PM, Jetlag wrote: > > Well I bought a new cable tester (way nicer than my old one) and sure > enough two of the Leviton blocks were bad. It showed a short at the > cable length that would indicate about the distance to the receptacle. > The puchdowns looked perfect when I pulled the wall plates off though. > I then swapped out the two blocks with two new ones and viola', > everything is fine. Thanks for the update; glad to hear you got it fixed! > Here's something strange though. On my LG BluRay player it shows a > shorted cable until the player's power is switched on. Once it is on it > shows a perfect cable. It's the only Ethernet device on my network that > displays this behavior. Odd. The Transporter works perfectly when > plugged into that Ethernet port. You'd need a schematic of the LG's network port components to figure that one out. -- Bill Burns Long Island NY USA http://ftldesign.com ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Lounge music station changed it's url.
Hello friends! We're back! You can point your devices to: http://208.53.138.125:8322/ or http://www.loungingsound.com/listen.pls or http://www.loungingsound.com/listen.m3u Sometimes the .pls doesn't work for everyone. Also, we have a lofi option http://www.loungingsound.com/lofi.m3u -- LoungingSound Lounging Sound Ambient | Lounge | Psytrance http://www.loungingsound.com 'LISTEN NOW' (http://www.loungingsound.com/listen.m3u) LoungingSound's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10866 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33730 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Controlling Squeeze Box using a Windows Mobile 6 Mobile Phone
Locuth;443361 Wrote: > > OK - I did not mention "smartphones", not knowing they are by now a > majority. > What did that salesperson in a big store tell me a few days ago: "PDA? There's no such thing anymore!" -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62623 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Controlling Squeezecentre with a Nokia phone
I'd be interested, but it's not a pressing need for me. The Handheld skin works for me, as does my SBC, and usually I'm near my laptop anyway. But if there was a Symbian app, I would use it. On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Locuth wrote: > > namxnam;442336 Wrote: >> Any devs out there that would like to build an app for by far the most >> prevalent (but not the prettiest) smartphone platform? > > Yes - here !! > Beeing a windows mobile guy I have yet to look into Symbian. > > It all depends on the demand. As of now I've had three request towards > a controller for Nokia phones. Not a lot, really. > > > -- > Locuth > > Use your PDA as SqueezeBox remote -- http://www.sciatec.de/SlimControl > > Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 > View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59033 > > ___ > discuss mailing list > discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Controlling Squeezecentre with a Nokia phone
Locuth;443366 Wrote: > Yes - here !! > Beeing a windows mobile guy I have yet to look into Symbian. > > It all depends on the demand. As of now I've had three request towards > a controller for Nokia phones. Not a lot, really. Cast my vote and you get an overwhelming 33% increase of the demand. ;) -- sebp System : Mac Mini for ripping to FLAC (XLD) > SqueezeCenter 7.3 running on a ReadyNAS NV+ Living room : Transporter > NuForce IA-7 v2 > KEF iQ9 Bedroom : Squeezebox 3 > Beresford DAC > NAD C315BEE > KEF iQ3 Kitchen : SB Receiver > Trends Audio TA10.1 > Celestion F10 Bathroom : SB Boom 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/sebp) sebp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11768 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59033 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Controlling Squeezecentre with a Nokia phone
namxnam;442336 Wrote: > Any devs out there that would like to build an app for by far the most > prevalent (but not the prettiest) smartphone platform? Yes - here !! Beeing a windows mobile guy I have yet to look into Symbian. It all depends on the demand. As of now I've had three request towards a controller for Nokia phones. Not a lot, really. -- Locuth Use your PDA as SqueezeBox remote -- http://www.sciatec.de/SlimControl Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59033 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Controlling Squeeze Box using a Windows Mobile 6 Mobile Phone
autopilot;417372 Wrote: > There is a great controller app too, im sure i saw a post recently and > even posted in it. By now its gone? Arrrghh, i cant of dreamt of it! > > (Author could do with putting a few search keywords (i.e. Windows > Mobile) in the tread if they want more people to find it) But hey, when I search for [windows mobile controller] the thread "PDA controller solution" comes up 3rd. OK - I did not mention "smartphones", not knowing they are by now a majority. Developement is definitely in progress. The current support thread is here: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64537 -- Locuth Use your PDA as SqueezeBox remote -- http://www.sciatec.de/SlimControl Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62623 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Anyone use the "Recent Searches" feature on the Duet controller?
Is anyone else having difficulty with the "Recent Searches" function on the controller? For me, sometimes it shows up, and other times it does not. It even disappears as an option under the "Home Menu" configuration list. This "here today, gone tomorrow behavior" also shows up when I use iPeng, so it's not the controller per se. Definitely seems to be a "squeezeplay" menu item that appears sometimes, and not others. Also, when it is there, it seems to get populated with searches I did not even do (as if other users' searches are showing up). I think it's a "server side" cache of some kind, so it's possible, as I use nothing but SqueezeNetwork, and do not connect to any local servers. It's rather odd to see what OTHER people are searching for. The server I connect to seems to always be the one (or maybe one of many?) in Ashburn, VA. -- ackrmann ackrmann's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31826 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65948 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Classic turns PC on !
Done! Just had to put the scpowertools.exe which was in the download into system32 folder and that was it. Thanks again for a great help , you're a star. G -- Grantiboy Grantiboy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30171 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter - Fussy Ethernet? Help!
Well I bought a new cable tester (way nicer than my old one) and sure enough two of the Leviton blocks were bad. It showed a short at the cable length that would indicate about the distance to the receptacle. The puchdowns looked perfect when I pulled the wall plates off though. I then swapped out the two blocks with two new ones and viola', everything is fine. Thanks for the suggestion. Here's something strange though. On my LG BluRay player it shows a shorted cable until the player's power is switched on. Once it is on it shows a perfect cable. It's the only Ethernet device on my network that displays this behavior. Odd. The Transporter works perfectly when plugged into that Ethernet port. -- Jetlag Two SB3's and a Transporter, SC running on my ReadyNAS Pro What can I say, I'm a NAS Man! ;) Jetlag's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1012 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65843 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Portable FLAC Players
jimzak;443331 Wrote: > > > So I got a Sansa Fuze which is solid state. It's only 8 GB but it > takes a 16 GB microSD card to expand it to 24 GB which is nice for .flac > and very nice for .mp3. The battery life is much better and the cost of > the player is less than the service I've had to pay for the Cowon. The > sound is not quite as good but it's smaller and the user interface is > better. I have actually transcoded a lot of .flac to .mp3 for the > player and have about 1000 songs on it. > > Amazingly, the Sansa Clip actually sounds better (IMHO) than the more upmarket Sansa Fuse. I think it uses a better DAC chip. Nothing to it--very small--but sound quality is excellent with decent headphones. The earbuds that come with it are crap. It will play FLAC, but again the battery life is shorter with FLAC. But for a transatlantic trip mine works great! -- HalleysComet HalleysComet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14590 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65861 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can the Duet Receiver be a wireless bridge?
Any updates on this? Does the newer firmware support this? I need to connect my SB receiver to my Dish DVR (using SB receiver as bridge) and that utility looks nice, but it doesn't work for me since the receiver is not connected to my desktop. My SB3 has the options within the menus to change settings for bridging. -- ik632 ik632's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13780 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53538 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Squeezebox plays all songs twice...
I use iTunes on Mac OS X to manage my music library, which contains 1,501 albums and 14,686 songs - or 29,372 songs, depends on how you look at it. And therein lies the problem All my albums are ripped first in Apple Lossless. I do this so that I don't have to rip them again. It was a mammoth task. Of course such an amount of lossless audio won't fit on my iPod, so I created an AAC version of all my songs. So I have both an archival version of each in Apple Lossless, and a portable version in AAC. (That's what I meant by "depends on how you look at it": 14,686 unique songs, in two formats makes 29,372 song files) Then in iTunes, I have two so called "smart playlists", one that filters out all Lossless, and one that filters all AAC. The clever bit in iTunes is that with the lossless playlist selected, I can still navigate albums and artists. I don't really use playlists for anything else. Only to separate my lossless and compressed fles. Now enter the Squeezebox. If I select the lossless playlist, it gives me all 14,686 songs in an enormous single playlist, no longer by album or artist. That's not practical. If I don't use the playlist, but just use the album or artist browser, it plays all my songs twice: once it plays the Lossless version, then the AAC version, before going to the next song. That is no good either. How should I deal with this? 1) Can I get Squeezebox to play only the lossless audio, ignoring any AAC files that it finds? 2) Can I get Squeezebox to browse albums and artists within my giant "Smart Playlist" of all my lossless music? 3) Is there another way to organize my iTunes library, keeping both lossless and compressed versions of all music, in such as way that Squeezebox plays lossless only and my iPod syncs to compressed only? -Ron. -- rpieket rpieket's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31862 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65945 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Player stops playing
This has begun happening to me as well after upgrading to Squeezecenter 7.3.3. I have a squeezebox (2nd Gen) running firmware 40. I have it connected to a WAP via ethernet (since I am using WPA and the squeezebox 2nd gen only supports WEP). It has worked flawlessly for over a year. After upgrading to Squeezecenter 7.3.3 I will choose a playlist and it will play a song and then get stuck. It plays to the end of the song and then the player stops. If I manually hit the FWD button it will play the next song, then stops. I also have a Squeezebox Classic (squeezebox3) running firmware 127 and connected to my network wirelessly via WPA and it does not have this issue. Any ideas? WT -- wtbates "Young fool. Only now, at the end, do you understand." wtbates's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2722 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65737 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Portable FLAC Players
I have had a Cowon X5 30 GB hard drive-based playerfor sometime. It sound good and I found a nice third party case and arm band for the gym. However, the battery runs down quickly playing .flac. Unfortunately I had to have it serviced for a headphone jack that became unstable and that cost $45 plus shipping one way. Now the battery charge life is down to about one use and I'll need to send it in for the $45 battery change. So I got a Sansa Fuze which is solid state. It's only 8 GB but it takes a 16 GB microSD card to expand it to 24 GB which is nice for .flac and very nice for .mp3. The battery life is much better and the cost of the player is less than the service I've had to pay for the Cowon. The sound is not quite as good but it's smaller and the user interface is better. I have actually transcoded a lot of .flac to .mp3 for the player and have about 1000 songs on it. Cowon is a nice piece of kit but the battery change issues on all their devices holds me back. If I was going to get another Cowon, I might get the 32 GB O2 flash-based player which accepts expansion SD cards, but I'd have to prepare myself for the inevitable expensive battery change. http://www.amazon.com/Cowon-Video-MP3-Player-White/dp/B001IWN9LQ/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1248550205&sr=8-7 -- jimzak http://zzzone.net http://have-a-nice-day.org http://www.last.fm/user/zzzoneDOTnet jimzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65861 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Lounge music station changed it's url.
Just an update for our squeezebox friends here... We planned to go live yesterday but ran into a major hardware problem. Our next goal is tonight (fingers crossed). Once we go live the ip and port we were originally at will be the same; though we will update our Web page with the proper linkage as soon as we're back online for any of you who may have lost the connection on your squeezebox. -- LoungingSound Lounging Sound Ambient | Lounge | Psytrance http://www.loungingsound.com 'LISTEN NOW' (http://www.loungingsound.com/listen.m3u) LoungingSound's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10866 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33730 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
DaveWr;443227 Wrote: > Like you I have had re-buffering issues, since 7.2.1 to varying degrees. > I also fail to understand the buffering strategy for track start. It is > a probable reason many people have bandwidth problems. This peak demand > is significant, especially if it coincides with other activity. I have > measured peak rates of 6 times normal running level. I also think this > peak issue will have subsequent effects for those of us who are > transcoding for non-native formats, peak demand in processor performance > required. > > Dave To further clarify, the "peak demand" as you put it doesn't have to be fully met for safe streaming to occur, but the faster the new track can get fully buffered the safer it will be. By doing a bit of visual integration, you will notice that the area under the "missing" data throughput at the end of the old track is the same as the area under the "fast buffering peak" at the beginning of the new track. So, if the max throughput obtainable by the SB is 2x the average running rate, it will take as long for the buffer to fully refill as it takes to empty (i.e., the length of the buffer, which is about 40 seconds). If that level of throughput is fully guaranteed and not fluctuating with time, streaming should still be reliable. However the "window of vulnerability" will last a bit longer than one would like. Likewise if I could only get 1.1x the average FLAC bit rate, it would take 10x the length of the buffer in seconds to refill it. This would probably break the system, and not allow gapless playback, even if the 1.1x throughput was as steady as a rock. It is not quite as simple as that because there is an audio buffer as well as a network buffer. There are still samples to be played out of the audio buffer once the network buffer is empty. Nevertheless, it remains my contention that splitting the network buffer in two and using double buffering to start pre-buffering the next track earlier would make for a more robust system. -- dsdreamer -- "Dreamer, easy in the chair that really fits you..." dsdreamer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12588 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Classic turns PC on !
I'm at work just now but that second link I got last night and wasn't sure what to do with it . Any pointers? Cheers G -- Grantiboy Grantiboy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30171 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65905 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
Like you I have had re-buffering issues, since 7.2.1 to varying degrees. I also fail to understand the buffering strategy for track start. It is a probable reason many people have bandwidth problems. This peak demand is significant, especially if it coincides with other activity. I have measured peak rates of 6 times normal running level. I also think this peak issue will have subsequent effects for those of us who are transcoding for non-native formats, peak demand in processor performance required. Dave -- DaveWr DaveWr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
