Re: [slim] No more free last.fm on the SB!
treefern;613598 Wrote: but suggest UK people select dollars as cheaper and works out at £1.92 through Paypal and it was accepted. Interesting, we normally get stung with the exchange rate. I might think about it for that amount especially if it's paypal too, there is always something in my account from ebay trading. I'm currently enjoying my free 3 months subscription so will see exactly how many times I use it. -- Blisteringblue 'What am I listening to?' (http://www.last.fm/user/blisteringblue) 1 x Boom, 1 x Receiver, 1 x HTC TP2 'Slimcontrol' (http://sc.sciatec.de/) Blisteringblue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22946 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85478 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SoftSquueeze
Thanks for this. I investigated some more and it was my firewall objecting to some upgraded component. So SoftSqueeze is well again. I did look at SoftPlay once before. It is some App for a controller I do not have. I got the impression at the time that there is supposed to be some s/w emulator for that controller for the PC, and that perhaps the idea would be to run that and have the App on that. I did not invest a lot of time and could not understand the components that might be required. A more relevant question is perhaps this: when I am sitting at my computer (to listen to SoftSqueeze), I am never too far away from my browser. And I often use my browser anyway to select music for my SoftSqueeze to play. Is there no way that the SBS browser interface could play the music via the browser, rather than a separate component (like SoftSqueeze or SqueezePlay)? That would also do away with the less-than-user-friendly notion of the various soft players showing up on every user's browser, when mostly, really, users are just interested in controlling their own player. -- ovonrein ovonrein's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2130 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85936 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Favourite alarm
I was programming the alarm on a SB2 player via the browser. Set up all the parameters, then asks what sound I'd like. You get a long drop down: Current Playlist, Favourites, Playlists, ... So I select BBC6 from my Favourites. The alarm fails and rolls over to the backup beeps. Looking at what happens reveals that a curious URL (~/mediaSelector/~?) is inserted instead of the BBC6 URL. Am I missing some component/configuration/etc? Thanks. PS: Selecting one of my own Playlists works. -- ovonrein ovonrein's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2130 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85994 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Support for Moodagent
MusicIP still works very well with Squeezebox Server, and you can add the Spicefly Sugarcube Plugin to enhance it even further. Moodagent still does not have a Desktop app (they have a profiler, but that's no use on it's own). They would need a proper desktop app (which they said was coming a while back) or better yet, a headless app or license their technology to SD/Logitech, and also support additional formats like flac, for this to work like MIP does now. You probably need to make a request to the Moodagent folks first. See this thread for an earlier discussion: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79819highlight=moodagent -- Nikhil Nikhil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=993 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85983 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SoftSquueeze
ovonrein;614622 Wrote: I did look at SoftPlay once before. It is some App for a controller I do not have. I got the impression at the time that there is supposed to be some s/w emulator for that controller for the PC, and that perhaps the idea would be to run that and have the App on that. I did not invest a lot of time and could not understand the components that might be required. There is a Squeezeplay (not SoftPlay_) for PC. It behaves just like Touch and can play through PC - if you have chosen to control the PC player. As it does not have native WMA decoders - if your SBS server is not WIndows mbased you will need additiona s/w to enable WMA playerback. A more relevant question is perhaps this: when I am sitting at my computer (to listen to SoftSqueeze), I am never too far away from my browser. And I often use my browser anyway to select music for my SoftSqueeze to play. Is there no way that the SBS browser interface could play the music via the browser, rather than a separate component (like SoftSqueeze or SqueezePlay)? That would also do away with the less-than-user-friendly notion of the various soft players showing up on every user's browser, when mostly, really, users are just interested in controlling their own player. You could use stream.mp3 but it would still show up as a player on SBS to all users. You cannot have a player that is not shown as a player. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85936 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...
A better Controller, along the lines of the Sonos Controller 200, might make some sense, but I'm not sure how much of an impact it would make as a product. Nobody is going to buy a $200 Controller for a $130 Radio/Alarm Clock. Logitech long ago decided to aim low with the Squeezebox product line and the Radio is the logical endpoint of where Logitech wanted to take Squeezebox - an inexpensive player for the masses that doesn't require being hooked up to the increasingly rare home audio system. The only real direction left for them is to lower the price point. They've pretty much painted themselves into a corner. The marketing of the Squeezebox product line has been abysmal from the day they bought the company. But again, that's just IMHO. -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85982 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Moderator Wiki
'User:Whittaker' (http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Special:Contributions/Whittaker) -- Soulkeeper -that is not dead which can eternal lie. and with strange aeons even death may die.- touch + duet + boom + radio / wrt160n/dd-wrt / sbs 7.5.1 or higher/win7(32b)/avira free Soulkeeper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35297 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74373 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] RJ45 (or WiFi) SoundCard does it exist ?
Both Ethernet and WiFi have significant latency, so you will not find any normal sound cards with this capability. The Squeezebox (in all its permutations) is the closest you get. Good for music and radio, but you don't want to use it for an application that requires perfect synchronization between video and audio, for instance. There are probably some proprietary wireless solutions out there, but I don't know which. If you want a wired connection to your sourd card, why don't you simply go for USB or FireWire? Both have latency (as have all sound cards), but much more predictable and controllable than any TCP/IP-based connection AFAIK. -- Soulkeeper -that is not dead which can eternal lie. and with strange aeons even death may die.- touch + duet + boom + radio / wrt160n/dd-wrt / sbs 7.5.1 or higher/win7(32b)/avira free Soulkeeper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35297 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85991 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
Bit depth is not all about quiet parts, and sampling frequency is not all about high frequencies. The point is that the resolution increases, AFAIU. -- Soulkeeper -that is not dead which can eternal lie. and with strange aeons even death may die.- touch + duet + boom + radio / wrt160n/dd-wrt / sbs 7.5.1 or higher/win7(32b)/avira free Soulkeeper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35297 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] RJ45 (or WiFi) SoundCard does it exist ?
http://www.audiopro.com/products/wf100-usb-dongles/536/ -- bernt 'LastFM' (http://www.last.fm/user/ottovonkopp/) SB3, SB BOOM - Vortexbox@HP SFF iPod Touch\iPeng bernt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1342 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85991 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] RJ45 (or WiFi) SoundCard does it exist ?
I'm running 20 metre USB cables with no problems at all... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF x-dacv3/x-10/x-psu(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85991 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Playback comes to iPeng
pippin;612402 Wrote: That doesn't help me a bit. We know how to do gapless, I believe, it's just work. Squeezeslave doesn't help me. I mean: the source code is open and I can look up everything I want as I can do on SqueezeSlave. However, we can't use anything from SqueezeSlave since it's GPL'ed. Read up on GPL and App Store. Sorry for the late response. Oh I see! I guess the squeezecast author must be in violation of the lisence agreement then. Hope you find a solution that doesn't cause too much grief. I've been using iPeng on my iPad and iPhone overseas accessing my music in Southern california just great. Thanks again! -- Line Line's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23800 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85502 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] RJ45 (or WiFi) SoundCard does it exist ?
20m USB :-) maybe I should give it a try -- finnbrodersen Some version of SBServer running on a HP EX490 home server SBReceiver -- NAD C162+C272 -- DALI IKON 6 (let's call it MidFi) finnbrodersen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17360 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85991 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...
erland;614473 Wrote: ... HARMONY CONTROLLER: - A harmony remote with two way Squeezebox communication, basically a Harmony remote with hard buttons but also with integrated Controller functionality. - I believe this could be a potential success, it would also be a way to both get the Harmony technology into Squeezebox owners home and get the Squeezebox devices into Harmony owners home. - Even if some new devices can be controlled over IP, the IR interface is still going to exist for a long time... I think this makes more sense than a new player. If Logitech could come up with an iTouch like universal remote, with both WiFi and IR, full integration with Squeezebox players, at a reasonable price point, that just seems like a winner to me. Plus, if successful, this would breath new life into both existing and future SB player sales. IMO Logitech have missed the mark for SB players in three main categories, and your Harmony idea addresses one of them (#3). 1. Marketing: try finding a SB at a retailer 2. Stability: player itself, but mostly SBS and MySB.com 3. Product Integration: Harmony? Boom sub? Separate speakers for players? Addl single speaker for Radio? Granted Logitech does not make high end audio accessories, but why not offer an accessories link to their EXISTING products for possible add-ons? -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85982 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...
erland;614473 Wrote: - A harmony remote with two way Squeezebox communication, basically a Harmony remote with hard buttons but also with integrated Controller functionality. - I believe this could be a potential success, it would also be a way to both get the Harmony technology into Squeezebox owners home and get the Squeezebox devices into Harmony owners home. - Even if some new devices can be controlled over IP, the IR interface is still going to exist for a long time. I would stand in line to buy this! -- Rick B. Rick B.'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8973 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85982 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] RJ45 (or WiFi) SoundCard does it exist ?
If ordinary USB cable doesn't work - you can try a cable that regenerates the signal such as http://www.trendnet.com/products/proddetail.asp?prod=170_TU2-EX5cat=32 -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85991 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] RJ45 (or WiFi) SoundCard does it exist ?
finnbrodersen;614641 Wrote: 20m USB :-) maybe I should give it a try I've got several 5m USB extension cables connected together... Works OK for my mouse,keyboard and usb hard drives -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF x-dacv3/x-10/x-psu(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85991 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...
On 03/01/2011 05:10 AM, JJZolx wrote: A better Controller, along the lines of the Sonos Controller 200, might make some sense, but I'm not sure how much of an impact it would make as a product. Nobody is going to buy a $200 Controller for a $130 Radio/Alarm Clock. I would love to see a touch screen Controller. But that would have to be essentially a Touch with batteries. I'm not seeing how it could cost the $100 that fancy remotes seem to get these days. With the Logitech Review, you get the video streamer and cool remote for $300, so that sets an upper bound -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] track stops after 7 seconds with wireless connection
I had problems with a Logitech Squeezebox Boom: it would work correctly with wired network cable,(from latest version of Squeezebox server), then correctly from Vortexbox) initially work correctly with wireless network, but eventually stopped playing each track after 7 seconds, and rebuffered, loosing connection with server. The same happened repeatedly with Squeezebox v3s, both Slim Devices and Logitech. Logitech support were useless-saying the Boom Box was faulty, to return for replacement The reliable way I cured this was 1-reconnect network cable, unplug the power cable and set up wired networking again. 2-Get a different wireless network bridge-I used Netgear unsecured-re set up wireless networking-worked correctly try use bridge to ethernet yes and use bridge to ethernet-no 3-re setup networking to the original perfectly working Belkin N draft router everything works again Could I have your comments, and could this be incorporated into the slimdevices/documentation -which I could not find on the web -- srsanford srsanford's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44543 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85998 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] track stops after 7 seconds with wireless connection
sounds like this was a network issue rather than a SB player issue and you resolved by resetting the network stuff. But in any case, see this link for lots of info/documentation: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Main_Page -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85998 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...
I think Logitech could greatly increase the sales of all their devices if they built a better remote for the units not including the Duet of course. Now I know you can buy the Duet remote and pair it will the other units but I think they need to build a better standard remote. The line of site just kills the remote use, and honestly there isn't really a point in having a remote if you have to be so close to the unit. They should create a new remote with a simple screen or they could even do without a screen if they just increase the range and use a better form of radio transmission. As far as a new unit would go, I would like to see a new portable touch. Basically a touchscreen Duet. -- phildeeze I consider myself a Wi-Fi radio addict! I can't even remember how I listened to the radio before I owned my 'Squeezebox Touch' (http://www.squeezeboxtouchreview.net). phildeeze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44132 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85982 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] No more free last.fm on the SB!
As mentioned above I also feel the quality has been slipping. This may be a lack of funds effecting the amount of time put into the station. I would say they will have to up their quality if they think they will be charging. I certainly wont be paying for low quality service so I hope they use our money to make improvements. -- phildeeze I consider myself a Wi-Fi radio addict! I can't even remember how I listened to the radio before I owned my 'Squeezebox Touch' (http://www.squeezeboxtouchreview.net). phildeeze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44132 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85478 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Can SB sort albums by release date?
Hello all :) My SB devices sort albums by an artist by year, but then alphabetically (that is, all 1983 albums alphabetically, then 1984 alphabetically etc.). Is there some settings adjustment I can make so that they are sorted completely by date (as long as I've tagged with day/month)? Many thanks in advance Steve -- stevied123 stevied123's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41204 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85999 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox affecting broadband usage..?
Downloading a song or Streaming a song is nearly the same. If you use a service like rhapsody which streams the mp3 to your computer you will still be using memory. Downloading a song means it is saved on your hardrive, but streaming a song is nearly the same because the information still has to be sent to your computer it just isn't written to your hard drive. Sometimes streamed songs are in a different format so they require less memory but in the end it will still count to your usage. Also Internet radio stations will use memory because they are also being streamed to your computer. -- phildeeze I consider myself a Wi-Fi radio addict! I can't even remember how I listened to the radio before I owned my 'Squeezebox Touch' (http://www.squeezeboxtouchreview.net). phildeeze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44132 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85883 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] RJ45 (or WiFi) SoundCard does it exist ?
after some thinking I will look more into a) http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tvcables/usb-extender-cat5.html b) http://www.cambridgeaudio.com/summary.php?PID=320Title=Summary when (and if) spotify is released here in Denmark -- finnbrodersen Some version of SBServer running on a HP EX490 home server SBReceiver -- NAD C162+C272 -- DALI IKON 6 (let's call it MidFi) finnbrodersen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17360 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85991 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] RJ45 (or WiFi) SoundCard does it exist ?
finnbrodersen;614680 Wrote: after some thinking I will look more into a) http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tvcables/usb-extender-cat5.html b) http://www.cambridgeaudio.com/summary.php?PID=320Title=Summary when (and if) spotify is released here in Denmark Those usb/ethernet adaptors only do usb 1.1 -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF x-dacv3/x-10/x-psu(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85991 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...
As I have typed often on this Forum, I would love to see a Duet Remote mated with a Harmony 1000. The problem would be getting it to a price point that more then 10 Squeezebox Fanatics would be willing to pay. The fact that anybody can get a used iTouch on EBAY and buy iPeng for it and have a killer remote and an iPod, makes it hard for any new Logitech product to be a Squeezebox remote control. And we are not even talking about the new iPad type tablets that are on the way. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: ModWright Platinum Signature Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Transporter, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Office: Touch with Vandersteen VSM-1s Kitchen: Touch in-wall mount w/ Thiel Powerpoint 1.2s Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Around the House: SliMP3, SB1, SB2, SB3 Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85982 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...
Maybe they're waiting for the technology to catch up. The killer feature is surely a TinySBS that can happily run a 'normal' setup, ie supporting several devices and a decent sized library. Maybe the fierce competition in mobile phones is bringing the necessary hardware to an SB-friendly price level? A Squeezebox with more reliable networking (n?), and that doesn't need an external server, is one I can recommend to everyone I know... Controller-wise, I'd suggest rewarding the 3rd party app makers and making them quasi-offical; perhaps also lining up an OEM mini tablet running Android, to sell to those people who really want a dedicated remote. -- oktup oktup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1117 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85982 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...
toby10;614642 Wrote:
1. Marketing: try finding a SB at a retailer
Actually this has improved a lot where I live. Back in 2006 I think
there were one (or maybe a few) online store in Sweden where it was
possible to get a Squeezebox, today I can get one from one of the
bigger electronic stores in the city where I live which have a
population of about 80 000 people. There was basically no way for me to
see the device in action before the purchase while Slim Devices was in
control, this has changed a lot since Logitech took over. Of course,
the situation might be completely different in other parts of the world
since I think it's each regional office within Logitech that decides
what products they want to distribute to the stores in their region.
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Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...
iPhone;614684 Wrote: The fact that anybody can get a used iTouch on EBAY and buy iPeng for it and have a killer remote and an iPod, makes it hard for any new Logitech product to be a Squeezebox remote control. You've hit the nail on the head as far as I'm concerned. This is why a new Controller from Logitech would be doomed. iPeng even supports playback now, so the differentiating factor of playback on the controller is no longer a factor. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,696 songs, 2,720 albums, 499 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85982 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
So called hi rez offerings beyond 16/44 are nothing but marketing ploys concocted by audio firms as they look to penetrate another entirely new (read profitable) market segment, extracting hard earned money from gullible consumers in the process. Why shouldn't Apple be able to profit similarly? -- Pneumonic Main: Slim Devices Transporter Metric Halo ULN8 Modwright Sony SCD 777ES Sonic Frontiers SFL-2 Preamp Audio Research Classic 120 Mono Power amps Martin Logan CLS IIz Speakers Pneumonic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10091 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
Soulkeeper;614632 Wrote: Bit depth is not all about quiet parts, and sampling frequency is not all about high frequencies. The point is that the resolution increases, AFAIU. For bit depth yes, but not for sampling frequency. You can capture higher frequencies, however the lower frequencies are captured with the same precision they ever were... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF x-dacv3/x-10/x-psu(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !
bluegaspode;614381 Wrote: so don't try to hit the small icon exactly, there is plenty of room to the left which should work as well. Indeed! If one aims to the left of the left icon it does work better. It probably would work even better if there were an actual button the size of the target surrounding the icon (like the button on the Web UI -- though obviously that one is not tappable). I think it would help aiming one's finger, which for right handed persons hides the icon as one tries to hit some undefined area to the left of it. Guido F. -- guidof *Front End*: Marantz TT 15S1 Turntable, Virtuoso Wood Cartridge; Cambridge Azur 840C CD Player; Oppo BDP--83 Universal Player; Squeezebox Touch Music File Player (digital out to Cambridge Azur 840C DAC) *Preamps*: Conrad Johnson Motif (Phono); Adcom GFP-750 (Line) *Amps*: Music Reference RM-200 Mk II (Main); Little Tube Mk III (Phones) *Subwoofer Equalizer*: DSpeaker Antimode 8033 *Speakers*: Martin Logan SL3s; REL T1 Subwoofer *Headphones*: AKG K701 guidof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40448 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Squeezebox classic problem since latest upgrade
Hi, I recenetly upgraded the squeezebox server to the latest version which I think updated the firmware on my squeezebox classic which has made the text scrolling much smoother. But I've come across a problem, I use a linux box to host the server which I send to sleep overnight using rtcwake and when the box wakes up the classic doesn't automatically connect back to the server, it has the screen which is looking for a server, pressing the power button instantlly shows the clock and all looks normal. Is there anyway around this as it would be nice to have the old behaviour where when the server wakes back up the squeezebox connects as before. I hope that makes sense! Thanks! -- mattbrowne mattbrowne's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33884 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86006 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox affecting broadband usage..?
If you kill SqueezePlayer from a desktop without hitting pause or stop first, then the stream will continue. Maybe SBS still thinks the player is out there Not sure if the same applies to a 'hardware' player if you switch off the mains without pressing power-off first. -- bonze TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3 - SqueezeCenter Version: 7.6.0 3 x wireless SB3, and 2x Touch bonze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6150 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85883 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Mediafly Play Channel not working correctly
I can't get a Mediafly channel to play more than the 1st item in the playlist on a SB3 using 7.5.3. I have tried to do this using SBS on 3 different computers with 3 different operating systems and as many browsers (IE, Chrome, and Safari). Also, the channel play function does the same thing when connected to MySB.com. It seems to me that that this function did work on previous versions of SBS. Comments? -- raglencross raglencross's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86008 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
MusicIP Support, MusicIP Support, MusicIP Support, Please, Please, Please :) Lots of people have been requesting access to this feature on SqueezeCommander, please make it available, it's killing me having to rely on a web interface to create the playlist every time. -- CrankyTom CrankyTom's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44357 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] How do I get plugin to show in menu?
I'm a plugin newb... I want to try the Wave Input plugin but can't find how to get it to show in my menu. It's checked Active and I've looked in the Advanced Settings but there's no option for it. I have a SB Classic a Duet controller. When working will it show up on both? -- Guy48065 Guy48065's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38659 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86009 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How do I get plugin to show in menu?
Waveinput doesn't show up in any menu - you just create an appropriate favorites and then play the favorite. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86009 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How do I get plugin to show in menu?
You can also go to Internet Radio Tune in URL and enter wavin:0 there (or wavin:1 or whatever may be appropriate on your system). Everything else is done using the mixer panel of your soundcard. -- usch usch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33389 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86009 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can SB sort albums by release date?
stevied123;614670 Wrote: My SB devices sort albums by an artist by year, but then alphabetically (that is, all 1983 albums alphabetically, then 1984 alphabetically etc.). Is there some settings adjustment I can make so that they are sorted completely by date (as long as I've tagged with day/month)? The server stores only the year for dates, so no. -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85999 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How do I get plugin to show in menu?
Thanks for the tips. I got it to work but it's horrible. My server is a dinky netbook and must have the worst soundcard imaginable. Roughly equivalent to a $2 AM radio inside a coffee can underwater in the next room. -- Guy48065 Guy48065's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38659 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86009 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
Mnyb;614595 Wrote: ? I was under the impression that majority of the eventual improvement is in the increased bith depth ? As this would increase the signal content that we stand a chance to hear. I know what a brick wall fillter is, but this is nowdays only a factor during recording then the frequency must be high to avoid that,. But for playback at home most modern DAC's have massive oversampling so for playback this is not really a problem anymore. For any kind of oversampling to occur without gross errors, there needs to be a very sharp low pass filter (usually done in the digital domain). There is nothing quite like this high order, low pass filter in natural acoustic spaces, which is why low sample rate PCM recordings always sound like something's wrong with them, IMO. The counter argument is that our ears have the bandwidth limitation, so that is doesn't matter if the reproduction system has a compatible bandwidth limitation. The reason I think otherwise is that we humans have a very non-linear perception of audio amplitude, and we can detect wrong timing of transient events even though we may not have the corresponding ability to detect continuous high frequency tones. For a purely linear system, this would be nonsense, since bandwidth and timing resolution are inextricably linked as reciprocal quantities in linear signal processing. Nevertheless, it is my conjecture that a higher than 20kHz bandwidth audio channel is necessary to avoid that our sensitive, non-linear ears pick up disconcerting, not-found-in-nature timing cues that cause us to identify the music source as electronic, unnatural and perhaps even fatiguing for long-term listening. I guess I am setting myself up for several flames for writing this post. However, I am just sharing an opinion. -- dsdreamer -- Dreamer, easy in the chair that really fits you... dsdreamer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12588 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
dsdreamer;614825 Wrote: I guess I am setting myself up for several flames for writing this post. However, I am just sharing an opinion. No, of cause not. We are on Slimdevices General forum. Let your feelings flow, no evidense needed! :) -- Wombat Transporter (modded) - RG142 - Avantgarde Acoustic based 500VA monoblocks - Sommer SPK240 - self-made speakers Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
May be soo ? But our old analog playback chain is/ was also bandwith limited and suffer similar problems ? Can these problems be interly described as a digital evil . The digital filtering in downsampling they are not nearly as bad as the analogue counterpart if you record at 44.1 ? Hence my pow, as sugested by people that have tried downsampling the material themself. Many claim that they hear no difference. I think Phil uploaded some samples in another tread, I shall dl and try them in the afternoon if I have time and if they are still there. My software collection is a bit shoody audacity is buggy I don't trust it completely. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
No matter what these samples bring, there are some that claim it is better even when no one can prove to hear differences or the other way around. No way to prove anything in here in any way. If you do they wonder for a fraction of a second about your deafness and go on writing in the next thread or different forum... -- Wombat Transporter (modded) - RG142 - Avantgarde Acoustic based 500VA monoblocks - Sommer SPK240 - self-made speakers Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
I stole this link from you Wombat.. If it is ok http://hlloyge.hl.funpic.de/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/audibility-of-a-cd-standard-ada-loop-inserted.pdf It is a good experiment. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
Wombat;614827 Wrote: No, of cause not. We are on Slimdevices General forum. Let your feelings flow, no evidense needed! :) It is not a feeling, but a reasoned conjecture. Difficult to measure per se without sticking electrodes in people's brains. The non-linear and time variant nature of the human ear's response to sound pressure waves is, however, well-established. The following is not a scientific paper, either, but you may find the following discussion interesting. http://www.ayre.com/pdf/Ayre_MP_White_Paper.pdf All I am saying is that from my point of view this seems plausible. -- dsdreamer -- Dreamer, easy in the chair that really fits you... dsdreamer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12588 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
Well given the choice between 256k AAC or 24/96 PCM what to do . And better soo if it is sourced from a different less compressed master . So let them market this, if it ends with us getting better sound evfen if it would be possible to cram into a CD . Specifically markett you effort at audiphiles gives some dgrees of freedoom it does not have to sound god on AM radio in a car.. So if this for business reasons (nobody believes in good old cd) , must be done on a new format so be it . If it's not to outrageously expensive I'll buy -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] RJ45 (or WiFi) SoundCard does it exist ?
Yes, I know, but is 12Mbit/s not more than enough? Normal CD audio is about 1.4Mbit/s. Or am I missing something ? -- finnbrodersen Some version of SBServer running on a HP EX490 home server SBReceiver -- NAD C162+C272 -- DALI IKON 6 (let's call it MidFi) finnbrodersen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17360 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85991 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How do I get plugin to show in menu?
The quality of the audio is nothing to do with the soundcard hardware - the PCM stream is taken after all mixing and sound effects have been added by s/w. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86009 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...
I think we have covered what devices might or might not appear. What do you think Logitech should do to keep the product alive and profitable? I think we need to realize that in order for the Squeeze-product-line to give us audio-pleasure, it needs to prosper. And mass market is where the money is for a company like Logitech. If the line prospers, there can be ressources for good sound quality and advanced features. To me there are three important things: 1. Make it work as stand alone player. The touch has a server built in. But it's hardly good enough. It should also support files that are on the network as well as directly attached. Having to have a server/(Powerfull-)NAS/PC of some sort running to listen to music keeps a lot of people away. Streaming services ofcourse help this a lot. 2. Make it easy to set up. Setting up a wired stand alone Touch should be no more difficult than setting up a SONOS. 3. UPNP. Make a great, free UPNP server. People will install it and eventually realize that native Squeeze-products will give them more than the stock UPNE-ones. 4. Marketing. Sell the damn stuff. Its actually good products. Afordable whole house audio ranging from cheap bathroom quality audio to audiophile quality-gear. That is unique. But Logitech chooses to just show a boring list of anonomous porducts on their website. 5. If the Touch cannot support the server decently, sell a server. Something like squeezeplug. Plug it in: network, usb-disk and power, ready to go. Logitech-branded!! Easy way to point to a network share is of course also mandatory, but it adds to the geekyness. Plug and play is the way to go. Ok, that was more than three ;) Someone could also suggest that this i a good time for Logitech to sell off the productline to some other company to develop it further. But to who, and what direction should they take it? -- Muele BR Mogens 2 Radios (1 battery), 2 Controllers, 2 Receivers, 1 Squeezeplay. Served by an old 800 mhz IBM T21 Thinkpad (Yes I know most phones have more cpu-power these days, but it gets the job done). Muele's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21310 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85982 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
