Re: [slim] Logitech SqueezeBox replacement for under $30
Running a Pi with truehl's Squeezeplug for LMS and Triode's Squeezelite via Mini Boombox - sounds great to me - no audio issues. Controllable via Squeezeplay on PC, and Logitech controller app on android. castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97721 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech SqueezeBox replacement for under $30
MarcelG wrote: > BTW ; if the Squeezelite package is picked up by the masses using the > pogoplugs, raspberry pi's etc > To reach the masses, you need to put it on the shelves in the local warehouses worldwide, doing that is going to be a completely different challenge and I believe it's also going to require a bit less geeky physical design than what we have seen on the alternatives so far, after all it's a device which non geeks must be willing to place in the center of their living room. Reaching the masses isn't impossible but I think a more realistic goal is to reach a lot of geeks and DIY wannabes on this forum. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97721 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech SqueezeBox replacement for under $30
agillis wrote: > The only two things I don't have is > > - Display > - Infrared receiver and remote control > > It would be easy to add both of these to the project but it would add > anther $130 to the cost!! Since an iPod touch v4 is only $199 why would > we want a display or remote? > > I guess when I say SqueezeBox replacement I'm replacing the SqueezeBox > Receiver not the Touch. > Both IR and display is important to be able to replace my Classic or Touch, the issue is that I currently control them with a Harmony IR remote. The display is easy to solve, I can just place a iPod Touch or Android device in a docking station beside it with one of the available apps always running, it's the IR support which is going to cause me a head ache. In similar fashion the on device controls and displays is really important to be able to replace any of my Squeezebox Radio's. So as you suggest we are probably talking about a Squeezebox Receiver replacement/alternative rather than a generic Squeezebox replacement, but it's definitely good to have an alternative even if it isn't the perfect replacement of all Squeezebox models, so keep up the good work. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97721 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech SqueezeBox replacement for under $30
I just wanted to shout out that I think this is a fantastic initiative to keep the Squeezebox ecosystem alive. The Raspberry Pi already drew my attention but I read that is has some nasty audio quality flukes (in the current Model B version at least), but the pogoplug in combination with a decent USB DAC sounds like a VERY viable plan! Too bad the Pogoplug is so expensive in the Netherlands. Triode and Agillis : keep up the great work!!! BTW ; if the Squeezelite package is picked up by the masses using the pogoplugs, raspberry pi's etc, it might just become the audio equivalent of XBMC. And that means a GREAT future for the Squeezebox ecosystem! MarcelG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58657 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97721 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Problems with Sirius/XM,
Siruis just stopped working. Is anyone else having this issue? When I try and play any channel, I get: "Unable to filetype" The message flashes really fast so I cannot see exactly what it says. Sirius was working, but I do not use it everyday so I do not know when it stopped working. I tried rebooting my LMS (Logitech media server) and I removed and added back the sirius app on the web mysqueezebox.com Is Sirius working for anyone else? bengaldave's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4605 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97760 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech SqueezeBox replacement for under $30
maggior wrote: > > > The the big issue to solve is configuration - how do you make that not a > completely geeky endeavour without the problems that the duet had. Well thatÂ’s not to hard use an on-board web-UI or an helper app running on your computer or why not both like my ethernet to ir adapter and ethernet to serial com adapter (itach) . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97721 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech SqueezeBox replacement for under $30
With the prevelance of iPods, iPhones, and Andriod devices, I think it's reasonable to put forth a squeezebox replacement without a display and rely on another device for the display/control. It seems to be working well for Sonos. The the big issue to solve is configuration - how do you make that not a completely geeky endeavour without the problems that the duet had. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97721 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
I currently use a customized version of Softsqueeze; which integrates perfectly in my SageTV Media Center software. So, I basically have universal radio, digital cable TV DVR, bluray which are all integrated into one Server->client system. So, instead of having 4-5 different set-top-boxes sitting in each room, I just have a tiny extender box to take their place in each room. I'm curious if there are any new server->extender based "Media Center" technologies which can integrate (universal radio and music playback -squeezebox-replacement-), cableTV (including premium TV channels), bluray movies (ripped or from BD disc itself on the server), etc. I'm just trying to avoid having a big mess of unlike devices sitting in each room. Going back to doing that would be a big step backwards for me. mkanet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech SqueezeBox replacement for under $30
JJZolx wrote: > No, there's a hell of a lot more than that needed to make this an actual > replacement for the Squeezebox. > > - wifi > - display > - infrared receiver and remote control > - internal DAC > - analog out > - optical S/PDIF out > - coax S/PDIF out > > This is a DIY project at best. I already have a unit here with - WiFi - DAC - analog out - optical S/PDIF out - coax S/PDIF out The total cost is still way under $100. I also have one with a built in amp and speakers. (boom replacement) I'll be discussing these in future articles. The only two things I don't have is - Display - Infrared receiver and remote control It would be easy to add both of these to the project but it would add anther $130 to the cost!! Since an iPod touch v4 is only $199 why would we want a display or remote? I guess when I say SqueezeBox replacement I'm replacing the SqueezeBox Receiver not the Touch. agillis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21140 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97721 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Applet AutoSwitch
Hello, yes the first version of the applet is ready to use. I try to never use mySB.com and I made the choice to always go back to local LMS when mysb.com is selected. It can be an option for the next version. The applet covered my needs today by switching automaticaly to a local up LMS (never on mysb.com). My last need is to put a priority with several local (or not) LMS. I put the archive file on my answer, I have not yet the time to create a repository for the project.. If you have some suggestions about (your) needs for this applet you are welcome. I am very new in SqueezeBox environment and I want to know if I go to the right way by sharing my job on this forum. Regards +---+ |Filename: AutoSwitch.tar.gz| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14190| +---+ adm1024's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58602 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97756 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Applet AutoSwitch
The plugin does that, too. It can automatically send players to MySB when the server is sent to sleep and pull them back to the server when it's waking up again. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97756 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Applet AutoSwitch
Hello, thanks for you answer. If I understand the purpose 'Server Power Control' is a server side pluging used to manage server (hibernation, shutdown, autowakeup). The purpose of the applet is to act on client side by looking for a local server and switch on it to always use local servers when they are up. For me, when a squeezebox is liked to a server, the only way to connect it to an other one is to make some actions on squeezebox interface and to select an other collection manualy, or to send a command to the server via CLI to tell to the squeezebox to connect to an other server. Perhaps I'm wrong, but it is what I understood. It is why and I created this applet. Regards adm1024's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58602 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97756 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech SqueezeBox replacement for under $30
Triode wrote: > Unfortunately that method doesn't work with my dac - setting > "dwc_otg.speed=1" means it can't connect. For those dacs using less of > the usb bus its probably a good step, but I'm hoping they can fully > resolve the packet loss issue as without doing so its not really > appropriate for hifi dacs (my target) Yes - the Pi -should- be a really good solution. Currently, I'm using HDMI output using the onboard sound card, and it doesn't have any of the poor sound quality issues of the onboard dac, but does seem to be limited to 48K max output. As Triode says, USB Dacs do seem to have some basic packet loss issues at the moment - hopefully they'll fix them. psketch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56555 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97721 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech SqueezeBox replacement for under $30
agillis wrote: > As for wifi this would be required to make this a true replacement for > the SqueezeBox. No, there's a hell of a lot more than that needed to make this an actual replacement for the Squeezebox. - wifi - display - infrared receiver and remote control - internal DAC - analog out - optical S/PDIF out - coax S/PDIF out This is a DIY project at best. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97721 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Applet AutoSwitch
The "Server Power Control" plugin does this. Have a look at the "3rd party software" forum. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97756 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech SqueezeBox replacement for under $30
re: non-USB DAC. I plan to try the VAMP solution with a Turtle Beach USB output card. Total cost less than $60. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036VO4X4/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00 dyohn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5211 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97721 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Applet AutoSwitch
Hello and Happy New Year to all. I was looking for a solution to switch automatically to my local LMS (or one of my local LMSs) without having actions on my squeezebox radio interface (and to increase the WAF of the beast). Did not find anything about this kind of tools and I took advantage of my holidays to create an applet for squeezebox radio (non-EU). The purpose of this applet is to switch automatically when a local LMS is available on my private network (PC, NAS, ...). If multiple servers are up on the network, the applet refers an alternate server to be able to switch quickly when the active one go down. For now, there is no LMS primary / secondary or priority level. This option will be for the next version. If the active server is "mysqueezebox.com", it will automatically switch on the local server when it is available. I do not know if other people also have this need, it is for this purpose that I wrote this post. So if people need this functionality, if they want to test the applet, tell me it so I will distribute the archive of the applet. Regards adm1024's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58602 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97756 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Olive One - any downsides?
erland wrote: > DLNA/UPnP doesn't necessary mean that it displays a > directory/subdirectory structure, just look at the DLNA/UPnP server > exposed from LMS which exposes similar structure as in the normal LMS > browse menus, but I get what you mean, you basically want tag based > browsing with good performance. If you are in a DLNA/UPnP environment, the control point structure seen for browsing music is set by the tree structures defined in the server software. For example, MinimServer, presents on every selection a full set of tag based further selection options until you get to the music item you want. A very clever concept. Especially in free multi platform software. DaveWr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97599 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Olive One - any downsides?
garym wrote: > I agree with your points. I mostly just mean that there is a functioning > database that can use tags, etc. and is not simply a > directory/subdirectory of files used by a DLNA/UpnP approach. > DLNA/UPnP doesn't necessary mean that it displays a directory/subdirectory structure, just look at the DLNA/UPnP server exposed from LMS which exposes similar structure as in the normal LMS browse menus, but I get what you mean, you basically want tag based browsing with good performance. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97599 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Olive One - any downsides?
erland wrote: > What do you mean with "library management" ? > > In my view, LMS has very little library management while apps like > iTunes and WMP have a lot more. Library management for me means that I > can restructure my library and add/remove/change artist/albums/track > data from a user interface, none of this exists in LMS today. We have > the third party Multi Library/Custom Scan/Custom Browse plugins which is > kind of library management related since they make it possible to > restructure the browse menus to get a different structure of your > library but they still relies on tags or directory paths which can't be > modified through LMS currently. I agree with your points. I mostly just mean that there is a functioning database that can use tags, etc. and is not simply a directory/subdirectory of files used by a DLNA/UpnP approach. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97599 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Olive One - any downsides?
erland wrote: > If you want smart playlists you also need to add handling of statistic > data such as play counts, last played time and ratings to the list, > smart playlists without this is more or less useless IMHO. Often you > want to filter or limit the smart playlist to things like: > - Only include music you don't listen to very often > - Only include music you haven't listen to for a long time > - Only include music which you love (top rated tracks) > - Exclude music you hate (low rated tracks) > - Only include music you listen to often. > > Neither Sonos nor Logitech seems to understand this need, which is why I > decided to provide support for all of it through third party plugins > instead. > > It could be that smart playlists is something that would only used by a > small subset of the users and that this is the main thing that makes it > less interesting for them to include support for it, but then it's > strange that both Apple (iTunes/iPod) and Microsoft (WMP) has decided to > include it in their products because especially Apple is usually pretty > restrictive regarding including features which is only used by a few > users. Possibly it might be that both Apple and Microsoft is focused at > local music while Logitech is more focused at streaming from online > services. That feature and your plugins are a 'Must' for me of any system, I have 'smart' playlists set on rating, genre, decades, years which are heavily used - I then use the 'top rated' tracks to convert to mp3 for usage on apple/android devices Basically Erland you are a legend :-) In terms of moving away from SB I would need that functionality there or the ability for clever people to develop plugins socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97599 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech SqueezeBox replacement for under $30
Triode wrote: > Can't match $30, but another alternative is the CuBox: > http://www.solid-run.com/products/cubox One other interesting feature of this device is that it has optical SPDIF out, so may be a good match for non-USB DACs. cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97721 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Interest for community maintained music streaming wiki ?
IMHO the best way to keep wiki.slimdevices.com alive is to actively use and update it. The more activity there is, the smaller the risk that it gets axed. mherger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97718 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
