Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-01-31 Thread eLR!C

pssc wrote: 
> Id like to make the case for 512MB ...
+1
We'll have enough trouble with initial kernel & scripts tests / tuning
without loosing time on low memory limits at start :)



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Re: [slim] Olive One - any downsides?

2013-01-31 Thread Mnyb

gruntwolla wrote: 
> Yeah I remember the post - something along the lines of 1 watt is 1
> watt!  I find your opinion much more worrying than a few extra dollars
> for a connector box. They ( Olive ) have frequently alluded to the fact
> that the  Olive One paired with a pair of B&W CM9's sounds amazing, and
> still  use the audiophile word to describe various components.

Umbecilical connector box brrr :) 

The logical thing to do is two versions one with amp and one without amp
but with a shed load of connectors to everything else.

If thy insist on one box the amp should also have inputs so that it
could be used a s a zone amp from someones ht reciever .



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox: Product Name

2013-01-31 Thread Gingernut63

Ah yes, it can create a few problems if you choose the wrong name.

I remember a software music player/database with the name Teen Spirit.
The developer decided to change the name to Conium, which can mean "an
extract from hemlock that can be used to treat spasmodic disorders". I
suppose music calms the savage beast. It now has the name Jaangle (good
name, good player). 

Mind you, I could do with a sip of conium now.



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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2013-01-31 Thread cdmackay

thanks!



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-01-31 Thread rgro

Wha..?  No Latin?   No counseling and/or confessional for lapsed
audiophiles???  You're slipping, Father Sarducci.  ;>)

guidof wrote: 
> I'm available to do localization in Italian and Spanish.
> 
> Guido F.



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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2013-01-31 Thread ralphpnj

cdmackay wrote: 
> Out of interest, do you save the rear insert from the jewel case, as
> well as the booklet?

While the question was not directed to me, I have removed all CDs from
their jewel cases and placed the CDs and the booklets into plastic
sleeves. I only saved the rear insert when the information on the insert
was different from that in the booklet, which I would guess was about
50% of the time.



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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2013-01-31 Thread cdmackay

bomboloni wrote: 
> The jewel cases get thrown out and I put the CDs in plastic sleeves
> along with the booklet.
> 

Out of interest, do you save the rear insert from the jewel case, as
well as the booklet?



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-01-31 Thread guidof

dustinsterk wrote: 
> Agreed and added.
> 
> GEN1:
> 1) Hardware design and implementation - JohnSwenson
> 2) Compiling OS/Building a bootable image/Writing automated scripts/Etc
> (this will break out much further in the future) - Dustinsterk (Me),
> eLR!C
> 3) Squeezelite Player - Triode
> 4) Case design - norman12
> 5) Distribution - ? (Depending if we need to ship to just one location
> and then send out to buyers from there)
> 6) WIKI setup and updating for instuctional use of new device (from NON
> tech person(s)) - ?
> 7) Creation and setup of internal webserver configuration page hosted on
> OS of the device. - ? 
> 
> GEN2:
> 8) Marketing/Name of the new product- (This is really for in the future
> but never to early to start thinking about it)
> 9) Website Creation/Technical Hosting of files, scripts, news, shipping
> updates, product updates, etc. - Cparker
> 10) Licensing (looking into feasibility of signing up subscriptions
> services, radio services, etc.) - ?
> 11) Localisation - eLR!C (French), mherger (German), epoch1970 (French)
> 12) Testing (Hardware, Software, etc) - ?

I'm available to do localization in Italian and Spanish.

Guido F.



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Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?

2013-01-31 Thread bomboloni

If I had a basement or attic, I'd store my CDs in their jewel cases on
open shelving, however I live in Manhattan. With real estate at a
premium, I need my 2000 CDs to take up as little space as possible in
the same cabinet as the stereo. I buy the majority of my music on CDs
and I do this for two main reasons; I want to rip them to FLAC, and I
want to keep the disc as a backup along with the digital backup. I also
like having easy access to the liner notes. The jewel cases get thrown
out and I put the CDs in plastic sleeves along with the booklet.

When I took on the project about three years ago, MUJI sold these great
14" storage boxes that would hold up to 400 CDs in sleeves.
Unfortunately they have stopped making them, and I have not found
anything that works as well. I tried the Snap-n-store boxes but I found
that they are a tad too narrow. 

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Re: [slim] Olive One - any downsides?

2013-01-31 Thread gruntwolla

Mnyb wrote: 
> Hmm , I think i did post something acerbic re their claim to drive b&w
> speakers with a cheap switch mode amp , but that is gone ? Was it a
> glitch on my iPad or did they told this forums admins to remove that ?
> 
> However at modest volume in a smal room anything works on a hard to
> drive speaker too , they seems to unaware of logarithmic property of
> sound :) it would the be uncontrolled and muddy when turning up the wick
> a little bit .
> 
> A weak amp does not sound that much less loud it just sound bad when
> something is demanded of it , you get 3dB every time you doubles the
> power in best case ( all speakers power compress ) 10 times the power
> gives at best 10dB more .
> You can play but the sound would collapse in complex passages and if
> going a bit loud .
> 
> I would not power an 800 b&w or a large Dynaudio with less than 200wpc
> of quality power .

Yeah I remember the post - something along the lines of 1 watt is 1
watt!  I find your opinion much more worrying than a few extra dollars
for a connector box. They ( Olive ) have frequently alluded to the fact
that the  Olive One paired with a pair of B&W CM9's sounds amazing, and
still  use the audiophile word to describe various components.



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-01-31 Thread norman12

simbo wrote: 
> I assume this doesn't cover the -fabrication- of the case too... anyone
> got a 3D printer? :)

I wasn't going to bother designing anything for GEN1, I thought the dev
guys could nail it to a plank of wood while working on it, although I'm
happy to do so if needs be.

As for GEN2, my thoughts are along the lines of a standard aluminium
extruded case with custom end panels - Nice thick CNC machined and
engraved front panel and a laser cut and laser engraved rear.
I'm also thinking of producing a 3d model of a clam type case that
people can take to their preferred rapid prototype supplier and get a
set extruded - I'm not sure this would be any cheaper than the aluminium
version though and cheap 3D printing looks a bit sh1t.

At this point I'm not sure what the board size will be and whether or
not GEN1 and 2 will be identical in layout and connector placement. I
did see 75mm square mentioned earlier in the thread (3" square to some
of you guys). If it stays around this size we can make a lovely little
case for it.

If we go for a standard extruded ali case we should make the board fit
the slots often extruded internally - we would need 3mm clear of
components and track running along the sides of the PCB to accommodate
this.
Most of these extruded cases come standard widths and various lengths.
If the PCB could be made to fit the internal length as well as the width
the mounted indicators, connectors etc would just pop through the end
panel cutouts - no soldering, just slide in the PCB, 2 panels, 8 screws
and 4 rubber feet later and you have a completed unit.

Both options could be obtained via a group buy and I'm willing to help
with this if needed, but early days at the moment.

Once John has reasonably firm idea of the PCB area required I'll look
see what is available off the shelf for the main case body.
Those who are interested pop over to the Hammond Manufacturing web site
- they have a lot of info and 3D models of their standard range. These
cases should be available worldwide from RS, Farnell and DigiKey amongst
others. 

norm



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox: Product Name

2013-01-31 Thread BenH73

Squirt (SQUeezebox Is Reborn Today)



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Re: [slim] Olive One - any downsides?

2013-01-31 Thread ninthsrw

Mnyb wrote: 
> Hmm , I think i did post something acerbic re their claim to drive b&w
> speakers with a cheap switch mode amp , but that is gone ? r .

Sorry for the confusion, all references to "comments" in my immediately
preceding post are referring to the comments made in the "Comments"
section of Olive's indigogo campaign site, not this form.

But your point is apt and I appreciate that you made it - my primary
setup is entirely B&W 800 series based (except sub).



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Re: [slim] Ipeng question (don't know where this belongs)

2013-01-31 Thread tbenschop

It is right now, but maybe that's because everything is running properly
now (I have turned the remote of the Squeezebox Duet on).
I will look again when Ipeng doesn't have a connection anymore.



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Re: [slim] Internet Radio Streaming Down?

2013-01-31 Thread honeymonster

toby10 wrote: 
> Working fine for me.  Try switching player directly to MySB.com, see if
> it plays.
> Also try looking at the LMS diagnostics.  LMS icon in System Tray >
> Diagnostics, what is reported for ALL pings, ports, IP's?
> Verified LMS has your correct MySB.com credentials?

My radio is streaming fine today, good luck.



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Re: [slim] Squeezeplay: Bad Audio Quality?

2013-01-31 Thread d6jg

If not a USB DAC then even some relatively cheap USB Speakers will give
you better sound quality. Or as you want to use headphones you might
like to consider one of the Topping amps - there is one that is a DAC
and headphone amp. Not sure but think its the TP22



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Re: [slim] Ipeng question (don't know where this belongs)

2013-01-31 Thread pippin

What do you see when you open your server's web interface? Is your
Squeezebox shown then?



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Re: [slim] Olive One - any downsides?

2013-01-31 Thread Mnyb

Hmm , I think i did post something acerbic re their claim to drive b&w
speakers with a cheap switch mode amp , but that is gone ? Was it a
glitch on my iPad or did they told this forums admins to remove that ?

However at modest volume in a smal room anything works on a hard to
drive speaker too , they seems to unaware of logarithmic property of
sound :) it would the be uncontrolled and muddy when turning up the wick
a little bit .

A weak amp does not sound that much less loud it just sound bad when
something is demanded of it , you get 3dB every time you doubles the
power in best case ( all speakers power compress ) 10 times the power
gives at best 10dB more .
You can play but the sound would collapse in complex passages and if
going a bit loud .

I would not power an 800 b&w or a large Dynaudio with less than 200wpc
of quality power .



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Re: [slim] Ipeng question (don't know where this belongs)

2013-01-31 Thread tbenschop

Didn't get it to work yet.

Under music player management I see this:

---
[on/off switch] Music.   >
^   Music Source
MySqueezebox.com
---

When I press th upper right > arrow, I go to the WOL settings, in which
I've turned both "use wake on lan" and "manual wol" on.
I restarted IPeng, no success.
When I press the upper left on/off switch, nothing happens.
When I press "mysqueezbox.com", I get a message: "the music source will
be changed to Mysqueezebox.com. Select all music players that should be
moving."

I don't know what mysqueezebox.com is, don't want it actually, just want
to use my own server. 
What more coule I try?



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Re: [slim] Olive One - any downsides?

2013-01-31 Thread ninthsrw

EliteAV wrote: 
> If I recall correctly, the early discussions about a connector box / hub
> may have been referring to what Olive are now calling a PAC which is the
> box that provides a power connector & speaker connections (with a single
> cable running back from the PAC to the ONE containing the separate wires
> for power/analogue audio), however I may be wrong about this.
> 
> The initial product envisaged by the Olive engineers wasnt going to
> provide any audio connections other than the speaker connections in the
> PAC, however, almost immediately people starting asking if a digital out
> could be added ...
> 
> Since then, people (I was one of them) started asking for additional
> connections: analogue out, wired Ethernet & USB. Hence the reason that
> Olive sent a survey to every backer asking for them to select which
> additional connectors (& other features) were of most importance & to
> confirm that they still wanted these to be included even if it meant
> pushing out the launch date (from July to Sep).
> 
> I believe that Olive didnt include a question in the survey about a new
> connection box as this came after the survey results had been
> collated...
> 
> I think this is a great solution: for people like me who want to be able
> to integrate the ONE into 4 different SB based systems that I have in my
> house (one that uses the SB coax digital out to an external DAC, 2 that
> use the analogue outs to active speakers and another that uses optical
> out to an AV amp), I will buy the connector box; for people who have
> more modest demands & just want to hook up the ONE to a pair of
> speakers, they dont need to buy the connector box.
> 
> Re the communications from Olive (and some comments being deleted),
> whilst some people may see this as subterfuge, I just see this as a
> company trying to provide a coherent message.
> 
> Personally, I find the idea of being able to shape the design of a new
> product very exciting a
> 
> Until the ONE is launched, I will continue to make great use of my
> current squeezeboxes.

1) The "connector box" discussion originated in the the comments a scant
few days after the indigogo campaign went live - now deleted - and was
not directed to the PAC. It was directed to the possibility of
implementing analog outputs. I know because most of the original posts
inquiring about whether or not a "proprietary connector" might be used
to provide "analog out" were mine - I am also a backer - and o how I
wish I had screen shots to share now.

2) The indigogo campaign homepage from the very first day provided that
there would be a digital output from the One as originally designed -
though of course they have since edited that. It appears that whomever
was running their comments was not initially aware that this feature was
included on the campaign homepage. The comments in the first week even
clarified that this would be a coaxial output.

3) Analog outputs via a "dock" with "proprietary connector" were part of
the discussion in the comments more than 20 days before the vote - but
those comments are now deleted.

4) In the earliest comments concerning the implementation of any dock
for analog out, the Olive representative provided that such a dock would
be provided for free to backers - so its not subterfuge per se, just
seems to me that they are chasing a profit motive with manipulative
inducement. For the record, I do not mind the additional cost
personally, and point this out so as to indicate a definitive motive
beyond inexplicable "subterfuge" or an interest in providing a "coherent
message"

5) As noted previously, the notion that we (backers) are somehow
"shaping the deign" seems disingenuous, given that it appears that they
began the campaign with a "coherent message" in mind- and then tried to
lead a horse to water - i.e. the dock and analog output were part of
their road map ab initio, and it seems their "reveal" was intended to
maximize potential-market-awareness during the course of the campaign.
I'm not sure that's a bad thing per se - these devices are not simple to
engineer, such that it was arguably prudent of them to have a sense of
where they could take the design. 

6) I was one of the first SB3 users way back when it launched, and I'll
be one of the last to go. But that doesn't mean I'm going to wait to
find a replacement, given other needs and interest.



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Re: [slim] Olive One - any downsides?

2013-01-31 Thread cparker

garym wrote: 
> But they reiterated the ability to do 3rd party plugins.

Any ideas on what language(s) they are supporting with their SDK?  I
can't imagine its Perl unless they are planning on borrowing lots of LMS
code ;)  
I'm presuming this will basically be some *nix box, will it support a
SQLite backend??

Cheers



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Re: [slim] Olive One - any downsides?

2013-01-31 Thread EliteAV

ninthsrw wrote: 
> 1) What exactly did the majority vote for?: The vote was limited to only
> selecting what connectivity methods might be desirable, not selecting
> how those connectivity methods would be implemented (other than with
> respect to overall delay and overall increased cost with respect to the
> product as a whole) - there was insufficient resolution in the voting to
> conclude that the majority voted for a connector box. Moreover,
> disclosure by Olive regarding the the ways they might have chosen to
> implement a connector box was so inadequate - because of deleted posts -
> that it cannot even be said the majority were impliedly voting for a
> connector box.
> 
> 2) Per the comments on indigogo they deleted, the connector box has been
> on the table since a day or two after the indigogo campaign, before any
> pressure from the Sqeezebox crowd manifest.
> 

I have been reading all of the comments on the indigogo site since the
Olive ONE campaign started (& have posted a few myself). If I recall
correctly, the early discussions about a connector box / hub may have
been referring to what Olive are now calling a PAC which is the box that
provides a power connector & speaker connections (with a single cable
running back from the PAC to the ONE containing the separate wires for
power/analogue audio), however I may be wrong about this.

The initial product envisaged by the Olive engineers wasnt going to
provide any audio connections other than the speaker connections in the
PAC, however, almost immediately people starting asking if a digital out
could be added to allow owners to use their own DAC (or feed an AV amp).
Olive advised that this could be achieved without a great deal of work
(as am guessing that the PCB already had a connection for a digital
out).

Since then, people (I was one of them) started asking for additional
connections: analogue out, wired Ethernet & USB. Hence the reason that
Olive sent a survey to every backer asking for them to select which
additional connectors (& other features) were of most importance & to
confirm that they still wanted these to be included even if it meant
pushing out the launch date (from July to Sep).

I believe that Olive didnt include a question in the survey about a new
connection box as this came after the survey results had been collated
showing that a large majority wanted additional connections so Olive
then had to find the most elegant solution for this.

Were Olive engineers able to come up with a fully thought through
solution within a couple of days of the survey closing? No, I am sure
that they would have started looking at this a number of weeks ago as a
result of the feedback in the comments section.

There is more background info here:
http://www.indiegogo.com/OliveONE?c=activity

..and you can see the connector box here:
http://myoliveone.com/Ones/tech_specs

I think this is a great solution: for people like me who want to be able
to integrate the ONE into 4 different SB based systems that I have in my
house (one that uses the SB coax digital out to an external DAC, 2 that
use the analogue outs to active speakers and another that uses optical
out to an AV amp), I will buy the connector box; for people who have
more modest demands & just want to hook up the ONE to a pair of
speakers, they dont need to buy the connector box.

Re the communications from Olive (and some comments being deleted),
whilst some people may see this as subterfuge, I just see this as a
company trying to provide a coherent message.

Personally, I find the idea of being able to shape the design of a new
product very exciting and think that the dialogue that Olive has opened
up with potential customers is a great idea. Some of the ideas that
people are suggesting are a bit niche (i.e. DAB+ radio, being able to
stream audio from TVs, audio inputs etc), but this is bound to happen. 

Until the ONE is launched, I will continue to make great use of my
current squeezeboxes.



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-01-31 Thread pssc

Id like to make the case for 512MB having done a fair amount of hacking
squeezeplay and Linux in general on the Pi 512MB has removed alot of
pressure , I think we would thank ourselves for this later,

We could run s slightly less custom Linux and make use of dbus and
associated daemons for network control, Bluetooth and avahi for service
discovery moving froward,
Id think it would be advantageous to reuse other code bases for our non
core functions ie music...

Phill.


dustinsterk wrote: 
> Agreed and added.
> 
> GEN1:
> 1) Hardware design and implementation - JohnSwenson
> 2) Compiling OS/Building a bootable image/Writing automated scripts/Etc
> (this will break out much further in the future) - Dustinsterk (Me),
> eLR!C
> 3) Squeezelite Player - Triode
> 4) Case design - norman12
> 5) Distribution - ? (Depending if we need to ship to just one location
> and then send out to buyers from there)
> 6) WIKI setup and updating for instuctional use of new device (from NON
> tech person(s)) - ?
> 7) Creation and setup of internal webserver configuration page hosted on
> OS of the device. - ? 
> 
> GEN2:
> 8) Marketing/Name of the new product- (This is really for in the future
> but never to early to start thinking about it)
> 9) Website Creation/Technical Hosting of files, scripts, news, shipping
> updates, product updates, etc. - Cparker
> 10) Licensing (looking into feasibility of signing up subscriptions
> services, radio services, etc.) - ?
> 11) Localisation - eLR!C (French), mherger (German), epoch1970 (French)
> 12) Testing (Hardware, Software, etc) - ?



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-01-31 Thread Mnyb

JackOfAll wrote: 
> Already exists. Before anyone else starts working on this, I already am.
> To the point where the files are imported to the library and then can be
> transcoded to native PCM using 'dsd2pcm'
> (https://code.google.com/p/dsd2pcm/).
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > dff flc * *
  > # I
  > [dsd2pcm] 2 m 24 | [sox] -t raw -r 352.8k -s -3 -c 2 - -t flac -C0 - sinc 
-20k
  > 

> > 
> 
> The code to import into LMS library is very basic, although I should
> have the necessary code finished soon to import the tags from dsf
> files using perl Audio-Scan. More interesting is 'DoP'
> (http://dsd-guide.com/sites/default/files/white-papers/DoP_openStandard_1v1.pdf),
> where via a transcoding plug the data can be "tunnelled" to a DAC
> capable of decoding it, allowing native DSD playback.

Exactly except for DoP it would work on any current squeezebox :) cool
project .

So no one has to do anything rigth now in the first gen of this player.

dsd2pcm is it cpu/memory hungry ? of some interest are any proper
filtering applied to abide to scarlet book spec or more (like saracon )
you want to get rid of most of the ultrasonic chaff



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-01-31 Thread Secret Squirrel

I've been an avid user/lurker of the Squeezebox forums, and am very
excited about this venture. I wish there was some way that I could
contribute but I doubt there is. I'm definitely a "Jack of all trades"
but importantly a "master of NONE".

I'd be a willing participant of GEN2. I can't image life without my
squeezeboxen.

Best of all to you with the appropriate skills. I'll be following
closely here on the forum.

SS

PS I was VERY sad when Slim Devices sold to Logitech and am VERY happy
to see things heading in the direction you folks are headed!

PPS If some case pops up where I think I can help, I'll jump in. I do
have computer skills but not on your level.



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-01-31 Thread Pascal Hibon

Gandhi wrote: 
> (First time poster, loong time lurker.)
> 
> My thanks to all involved for a great and very promising initiative! 
> 
> I think the following premature detail would be useful for many of us
> Squeeople: an output for a power on/off signal to control an amplifier,
> perhaps just a +5V or +12V output when "on", for use with for instance a
> solid state relay. 
> 
> A headphones out jack could be used instead together with an applet or
> plugin like PowerSwitchII (which I use), but I believe it's better not
> to hinder normal use of headphones. 
> 
> Best Regards,
> Gandhi
> 

Another +1 on that. 
I would go for the industry standard with 12 volt trigger output.



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Re: [slim] Logitech SqueezeBox replacement for under $30

2013-01-31 Thread dustinsterk

agillis wrote: 
> VAMP 0.3 image is now up! If you are running the old image you will need
> to run these commands.
> 
> fw_setenv arcNumber
> fw_setenv machid dd6
> 
> New features include
> - Custom kernel
> - Support for the LED on the front on the PogoPlug (now goes green when
> unit is running and Internet is up)
> - Latest SqueezeLite
> - Improvements in the web GUI

Nice work Andrew!  I updated mine last night from .2working great!



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox: Product Name

2013-01-31 Thread dustinsterk

simbo wrote: 
> I have a sneaky suspicion half the people on here are developers. All
> the marketing guys have Sonos.

LOL...I think you are right on this one.  :)



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-01-31 Thread dustinsterk

Gandhi wrote: 
> (First time poster, loong time lurker.)
> 
> My thanks to all involved for a great and very promising initiative! 
> 
> I think the following premature detail would be useful for many of us
> Squeeople: an output for a power on/off signal to control an amplifier,
> perhaps just a +5V or +12V output when "on", for use with for instance a
> solid state relay. 
> 
> A headphones out jack could be used instead together with an applet or
> plugin like PowerSwitchII (which I use), but I believe it's better not
> to hinder normal use of headphones. 
> 
> Best Regards,
> Gandhi
> 
> not often enough well recorded and mastered cds *|* dbpoweramp with
> accuraterip *|* flac *|* fanless asrock z77e-itx intel i5-3570t *|*
> ubuntu 12.04.1 lts 32-bit *|* lms 7.7.3 *|* brutefirdrc 3.0 *|*
> transporter (balanced out) *|* thule ia252b *|* audio physic scorpio *|*
> no fancy cables. *+* also some booms. *+* harmony 525s for them all,
> including waking the server from s3.

+1 to this..I would look for a response from John but it seems like
that should not be too hard.



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-01-31 Thread dustinsterk

JackOfAll wrote: 
> Already exists. Before anyone else starts working on this, I already am.
> To the point where the files are imported to the library and then can be
> transcoded to native PCM using 'dsd2pcm'
> (https://code.google.com/p/dsd2pcm/).
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > dff flc * *
  > # I
  > [dsd2pcm] 2 m 24 | [sox] -t raw -r 352.8k -s -3 -c 2 - -t flac -C0 - sinc 
-20k
  > 

> > 
> 
> The code to import into LMS library is very basic, although I should
> have the necessary code finished soon to import the tags from dsf
> files using perl Audio-Scan. More interesting is 'DoP'
> (http://dsd-guide.com/sites/default/files/white-papers/DoP_openStandard_1v1.pdf),
> where via a transcoding plug the data can be "tunnelled" to a DAC
> capable of decoding it, allowing native DSD playback.

Very Cool!  Nice work JackOfAll!!!



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Re: [slim] Logitech SqueezeBox replacement for under $30

2013-01-31 Thread castalla

dwc wrote: 
> So excited to have found this thread!  I ordered the E02 and will see if
> I can get it to play into my JVC amp that has a USB input.


Crazy ... costs 14 GBP plus 42 GBP for delivery to Europe



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Re: [slim] Ipeng question (don't know where this belongs)

2013-01-31 Thread pippin

Yes, then try WOL first



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[slim] The Ultimate Data Storage Device

2013-01-31 Thread garym

So in the near future I can store a few billion lossless song files in
some of my DNA.  Tell Bruce Willis that it will soon be easier to pass
his itunes purchases on to his children.   ;-)

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/29/science/using-dna-to-store-digital-information.html?hpw&_r=0



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Re: [slim] Ipeng question (don't know where this belongs)

2013-01-31 Thread tbenschop

Hi Pippin,

Thanks for your help.

I run a server on my PC, so I don't think I use mysqueezebox.com.
Indeed, the PC goed into standby after one hour, maybe the problem lies
there. When I come home tonight I will try to play a little bit with the
settings. I'll keep you posted, thanks again!



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-01-31 Thread Gandhi

(First time poster, loong time lurker.)

My thanks to all involved for a great and very promising initiative! 

I think the following premature detail would be useful for many of us
Squeeople: an output for a power on/off signal to control an amplifier,
perhaps just a +5V or +12V output when "on", for use with for instance a
solid state relay. 

A headphones out jack could be used instead together with an applet or
plugin like PowerSwitchII (which I use), but I believe it's better not
to hinder normal use of headphones. 

Best Regards,
Gandhi

not often enough well recorded and mastered cds *|* dbpoweramp with
accuraterip *|* flac *|* fanless asrock z77e-itx intel i5-3570t *|*
ubuntu 12.04.1 lts 32-bit *|* lms 7.7.3 *|* brutefirdrc 3.0 *|*
transporter (balanced out) *|* thule ia252b *|* audio physic scorpio *|*
no fancy cables. *+* also some booms. *+* harmony 525s for them all,
including waking the server from s3.



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-01-31 Thread JackOfAll

Mnyb wrote: 
> DSD I suggest someone writes a server transcoder for that to pcm, unless
> the magic chip John have found have this too ? (it seems very versatile)

Already exists. Before anyone else starts working on this, I already am.
To the point where the files are imported to the library and then can be
transcoded to native PCM using 'dsd2pcm'
(http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=37717).


Code:


  dff flc * *
  # I
  [dsd2pcm] 2 m 24 | [sox] -t raw -r 352.8k -s -3 -c 2 - -t flac -C0 - sinc -20k
  



The code to import into LMS library is very basic, although I should
have the necessary code finished soon to import the tags from dsf files
using perl Audio-Scan. More interesting is DoP, where via a transcdoing
plug the data can be tunnelled to a DAC capable of decoding it, allowing
native DSD playback.



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-01-31 Thread simbo

Mnyb wrote: 
> DSD I suggest someone writes a server transcoder for that to pcm
I know GEN1 is going to be using the slimproto architecture, but if/when
there is a desire to design a new architecture going forward, there's a
danger that any work done now could be lost. I'd suggest sticking to the
basics for the moment, unless they're confident it wouldn't be wasted
effort.



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-01-31 Thread simbo

dustinsterk wrote: 
> 
> 4) Case design - norman12
> 
I assume this doesn't cover the -fabrication- of the case too... anyone
got a 3D printer? :)



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox: Product Name

2013-01-31 Thread simbo

cooppw02 wrote: 
> 
> 1. It shouldn't encroach on someone else's name/trademark/IP. 
> 
> 
 - "BelCanto" is out: as has been mentioned, there is a hifi
> company by that name. 
> 
 - You'll probably get a nastygram from Logitech if you were to
> use the phrases "Squeeze" or "Slim" or the like anywhere in the title.
> 
> 
If people let me know of those that mean "condom" in Buryat, then I'll
cross them out.



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox: Product Name

2013-01-31 Thread simbo

Mnyb wrote: 
> why not let the developers decide , then it's probably gets as bad as
> squeezebox .
I have a sneaky suspicion half the people on here are developers. All
the marketing guys have Sonos.



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox: Product Name

2013-01-31 Thread Julf

Mnyb wrote: 
> In that vein why not *Brikk* ,with Linnesque spelling and a hint of bugs
> to come... :)

+1 :)



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