Re: [slim] Lossless Downloads
Thanks, everyone. -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64725 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Lossless Downloads
Does anyone know if any of the big music services are offering DRM-free lossless downloads yet? - Jeff -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64725 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Storing CDs after Ripping
I use 'these' (http://www.uline.com/Product/ProductDetail.aspx?model=S-4640ref=403) from Uline. They hold about 106 CD's each and are easily stackable. - Jeff -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50527 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Search Kills Slimserver
Mike - Thanks for the reply. I had no idea I was running a beta version. (or had forgotten -- I'm sure I knew when I downloaded it). I installed it a while back and it's run fine ever since. I rebooted the server after upgrading my NIC and now search works fine again. I'll get around to upgrading to the latest stable 6.x when I get a chance. What's the status with version 7? - Jeff -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41090 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Search Kills Slimserver
This is a weird one. Lately, when I search using either basic or advanced search on the web interface, SlimServer stops running. I have to restart the server, which runs fine until the next search. Anyone else see this? I'm using SlimServer 6.5b2. - Jeff -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41090 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Transporter - Native support for WMA Lossless?
Peter;169570 Wrote: Cool, do they run on Linux or OS/X as well? Regards, Peter Are you being facetious? - Jeff -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28267 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Transporter - Native support for WMA Lossless?
MP3 is actually not open in the sense of free. The MP3 format is patented and subject to license restrictions. When I decided to rip my collection, I debated between FLAC and WMAL. I settled on the latter because I was using Sonic Foundry Vegas to make mixes at the time, and it read WMAL files directly. Now that reason isn't so important, but I see no need to transcode. - Jeff -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28267 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Transporter - Native support for WMA Lossless?
Peter;169197 Wrote: slimditty wrote:Anybody with any sense should choose open protocols. Luckily, any lossless protocol can be converted losslesly to any other, so as long as you can find the proper tools (I'm sure Microsoft won't have provided you with any) you can convert to FLAC. This should do it: http://www.litexmedia.com/wma_workshop/ (for a price). MS Apple are trying very hard to pull you into their corner and not let go. Just say no ;) Regards, Peter Huh? Microsoft provides free tools for WMAL-PCM (WAV) conversion. 'Windows Media Audio 9 Lossless to PCM Converter' (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/forpros/encoder/utilities.aspx) - Jeff -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28267 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Open Source Dream Falls Apart?
even linking to GPL libraries has a viral quality to it (e.g. you can't just make it a kernel module) To my knowledge, this has never been tested in court. In my understanding, the whole you link to it you're infected position is based on a twisted definition of derivative work under copyright law. I'd gladly take a case from an accused linker pro bono on this point. - Jeff -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28873 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Open Source Dream Falls Apart?
Open Source/GPL may be a good idea, but not when some people profiteer on the back of other people's efforts. I think the biggest point has yet to be made. What's to stop -you- from doing the same? It's open source. Someone wants to buy it off you, then sell it to them. They could just as easily get it for free themselves, so if they're willing to pay you, they're either stupid or perceive some added value you provide. Oh, and you could design your own hardware that uses SlimServer and sell that, too. Who'd be riding whose back then? - Jeff -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28873 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Rescan Music Library . . . Isn't
Ok, I posted this in the third party plugin forum with no luck. Maybe it's not a third party plugin. I'll post it here, hopefully wihout incurring any anti-cross posting wrath. The Rescan Music Library plugin isn't rescanning. It's turned on and set to rescan at midnight. I have the d_scan debug turned on, but the log isn't showing any activity since my last manual rescan. I'm running: SlimServer Version: 6.2.2 - 7135 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252 Anyone else seeing this? TIA - Jeff -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25560 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: server database is case sensitive and that's bad. read why.
Perhaps a better solution would be to stop SlimServer from messing with DB entries once they've been populated. That way, anyone could write an external app to populate the db without worrying about tags, sorting algorithms, etc. As it stands now, SlimServer updates DB entries whenever it plays a track. There was a thread on this earlier. - Jeff -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24093 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: server database is case sensitive and that's bad. read why.
@geoffb: I disagree that the tags are the actual data. I keep my actual data in an Access DB (I use CATraxx). A real DB is more efficient than file-to-file tags, whose real purpose is to allow players to extract data about tracks they're playing. @JJZolx: How does one set the relevant date field in the DB? I'd like to go back to populating my DB programmatically, rather than scanning. As it stands now, every time I play a track (many of which are untagged), SlimServer alters the DB record as it sees fit. - Jeff -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24093 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: server database is case sensitive and that's bad. read why.
Pale Blue Ego Wrote: Garbage in, garbage out. If you don't like the garbage, clean it up. Wow, that clears things right up. Thanks for the insight. The point, which you've apparently missed, is I -have- cleaned everything up. My Access database is pristine. I should be able to simply port the Access database to MySQL and be done with it, no? No. I need to tag my files and have SlimServer read the tags. That's an extra step and provides a lot less control (e.g., I can't customize the sort field). I haven't dealt with tags to date because my main audio system doesn't use SlimServer (it relies on the Access database and provides much more sophisticated functionality) and I don't have a portable player. - Jeff -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24093 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: server database is case sensitive and that's bad. read why.
I agree. I, too keep my music info in a database. That database is conveniently and automatically built and maintained for me by Slimserver based on my tags. That characterization is as self-serving as it is inaccurate. Slim collects limited information from file tags and allows -zero- central management of your data. And it allows for a bare minimum of information at that (quick, tell me how many tracks you have released between 1984 and 1986 on Grammy Award winning albums? How many covers of Bob Dylan songs do you have? Live tracks from 1972? Jazz Christmas albums?). It's not much of a -database-, it's really just a data store for an audio streaming program. Seriously, though, if you absolutely must have your access DB how about trying to go the other direction--grab the data from the SQLite (or MySQL) db that slimserver builds and build an access db from it. Because my Access DB is built and maintained by CD/music cataloging software that's light years ahead of Slim's db in terms of real data management. That's not a knock on Slim, it's simply a statement of fact -- SlimServer is not a music database program, it's an audio streaming program. Seriously, though, instead of telling me why I'm wrong to not want to use Slim as my data management program, why not admit that users should be allowed to populate the Slim DB without fear of SlimServer mucking with the data? Didn't see your edit - Jeff -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24093 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: server database is case sensitive and that's bad. read why.
Ben, azinck3 - Maybe I just don't understand. Could you explain to me -why- SlimServer needs to alter database records? In particular, why when a db record has an artist name, album name and track name does SlimServer need to alter that based on it's understanding of what those fields should be (paricularly for tracks that have no tags)? On a related note, why is it acceptable to have a don't rescan my tracks option but not a don't update the db on play option? Maybe you could shed some light on this other than by saying, SlimServer should be able to muck with data as it sees fit TIA for your insights. - Jeff -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24093 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: server database is case sensitive and that's bad. read why.
It isn't meant to be a replacement for a music database, and it shouldn't be misconstrued as such. Great, you've finally made a valid point. Now go back and re-read the thread and see if you're arguing with me or against me. I think you'll see that you've simply restated my original position. What we don't seem to agree on is: (a) whether tags or a real db is the best place to store metadata and (b) whether users should be able to populate Slim's DB directly. As for others' arguments that storing metadata in tags leads to greater portability, that's simply a restatement of the argument the others are broken too, and so we have to do it this way. If all player software allowed import/export of db's, then all this would be irrelevant, and tags could go back to their original purpose -- to support portable players. - Jeff -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24093 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: server database is case sensitive and that's bad. read why.
Michaelwagner Wrote: For squeezeboxes to be a complete solution, something, other than slimserver, should be maintaining the information you want, in the way you want it, and stuffing them into the tags. I agree for the most part, except that it's necessary to stuff[] them into tags whereas I think it's more robust if that information is carried in the file tags and thence into Slimserver. . . . My reason is that, when information about a single item is stored in multiple files, utilities like copy or backup can copy one without the other, yielding data which is out of sync. Well, if you boil it down, all you're saying is you'd rather synch the two via tags. That doesn't solve the problem of data races or other failures -- it simply adds another layer. You think tags are only for portable players. I disagree. I think they're for O/S=application independence. Well, you and Snarlydwarf make a good point about -portable- players. So strike portable and you're left with the proper statement, namely, that tags were created so that -players-, portable or otherwise, could display information about the file. Obviously, that approach is lacking for standard database type stuff, such as searching, sorting, etc., and so SlimServer, iTunes and others maintain real db's for the info (as do, btw, image cataloging apps like Adobe's Photoshop Organizer). Presently, tags are only a real necessity for portables, hence my earlier, slightly erroneous statement. The OS/App independence argument is a total red herring. Slim stores its info in MySQL and/or SQLite. Those are real db's, and they're cross platform. As for tags being cross platform, that's true only so long as there are apps on your target platform that can read the tags. Your argument is more akin to a closed format vs. open format argument, and that's not the issue here. - Jeff -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24093 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Use Slimserver Browser vs IE?
)p( Wrote: I just embed the ie active-x control in my custom app I use as a htpc frontend and point it to the server url. This way if have full control over its appearence. peter Care to share it? -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22609 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: The Worst DB Implementation?
I reached the same conclusion as Malor and Brownie after thinking about my alternatives. I don't have Access, so I'll have to write a routine in Delphi or C# using DAO/ADO/OLEDB/ABCDE (or whatever MS is calling the COM interface these days). We can tell SlimServer not to scan, it's too bad we can't tell it not to update the DB other times. Oh well. Thanks to everyone for the input. Sorry about the thread title, I was feeling a bit frustrated when I posted, I guess. - Jeff -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23061 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] The Worst DB Implementation?
Ok, this is weird, and I can't think of a single reasonable explanation for this. I populate my slimdb database (SQLite) from an external Access DB. Everything works great, until I start browsing my db through the SlimServer web interface. I browse by artist (or search, for that matter) for the artist Clap Your Hands Say Yeah. I find one album with 12 tracks. Everything is fine. The next time I browse (or search) over to that album, -there are only 11 tracks-. The first track no longer appears with the album. Surf over again, -now there are only 10 tracks-. Tracks 1 and 2 have disappeared. What's up with this? Anyone else see this? - Jeff -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23061 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: The Worst DB Implementation?
I'm copying over rather than letting it scan my tracks because my tracks aren't tagged, but I do have a complete, centrally managed, clean db with all my track information. As for the notion that it's somehow difficult to populate a relational database, that's just not true. This isn't a particularly complicated schema, and there's should be no reason why one can't manually build the db. In any event, it seems that the tracks are disappearing, SlimServer is renaming the tracks. So track 1, which was some song title From Clap Your Hands Say Yeah by Clap Your Hands Say Yeah becomes Clap Your Hands Say Yeah - some song title on Clap Your Hands Say Yeah. Why is SlimServer renaming the tracks in the db? [image: http://sonnabendlaw.com/cap1.jpg] [image: http://sonnabendlaw.com/cap2.jpg] [image: http://sonnabendlaw.com/cap3.jpg] -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23061 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: The Worst DB Implementation?
azinck3 Wrote: I believe that when you play the track slimserver attempts to actually read the tags at that point to try to maintain accurate DB info. Your tags don't exist so it uses it's guess tags feature to attempt to discern the appropriate tag info from your directory structure and filenames. It then updates its database to reflect the results of its guess, thus resulting in the info you're seeing. Thanks for the info. I was starting to think this might be the case. How do I turn off the guess the tags feature (or, for that matter, the update the DB with the best info feature)? I'll twiddle with the Perl code, if need be. TIA - Jeff -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23061 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: The Worst DB Implementation?
Thanks for the idea. I've done that already, but to no avail (the first guess tags entry reads 0 after I delete all the entries and hit Change). - Jeff -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23061 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Best software for organising your music?
Hands down its CATraxx. http://www.fnprg.com/catraxx/ - Jeff -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22887 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Remove Silence at Beginning/End of Track
Currently I'm using Winamp in my home media system, but I'm thinking about switching over to a Slim setup. Winamp, when using the DirectSound output, will remove silence at the beginning/end of tracks. A user can select the db cutoff point for this to kick-in. Is there any way to do this in Slimserver/SoftSqueeze/SB? If it matters, my collection is ripped to WMAL. TIA. - Jeff -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22786 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Password protecting the server ...
Well, at least we can turn on password protection (and change the default port). -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22424 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Password protecting the server ...
mherger Wrote: You can't. Only the http stream and CLI interface can be protected. Don't have those players on _your_ network :-) Does that mean that once I've opened my server to the outside world, anyone with a Squeeze Box can connect to my server? If so, that's pretty sad. - Jeff -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22424 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Can't Open File For...
Well, I found the problem. I should have mentioned that I populate the SQLite DB myself from an Access DB. I had filled in all the fields I thought were important. Two fields in the Tracks table I had not included were FS and Sec (or is it Secs?). Apparently, these fields need to be non-zero to get Slim to fire the tracks. I now use 1000 as a value for these fields, and all seems to work. I'm not sure why Slim crapped out on me after working as it was, but I did do a lot of futzing in recent days, and so that may have killed something. Thanks for the reply. - Jeff -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21603 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Can't Open File For...
I've suddenly run into problems, and I'm not sure what's brought them on. Using SlimServer 6.2.1 or 6.2.2 with SoftSqueeze 2.0 or later, I suddenly can't listen to any music. I get a Can't Open File For [songname] error. After turning on the debug source in SlimServer, I see a message saying something to the effect of not bothering to open a file of zero length. The source files are WMA Lossless. Any ideas? - Jeff -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21603 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] 0 Songs
I've written some code to populate slimserversql.db from an external Access database. Everything works fine -- I'm able to browse artists, albums, etc. and play music without problems. The only small hitch is that Slimserver indicates: Your music library contains 1238 albums with 0 songs by 1966 artists. I can't browse or search for songs, but the songs are all there when I browse, etc., by album or artist. Any thoughts? What field might I not be populating that I need to populate? TIA - Jeff -- JSonnabend ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 0 Songs
Yes, with 'wma'. Is that right (they are WMA lossless files)? -- JSonnabend ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
