Re: [slim] Converting to Apple Lossless
thesil;175777 Wrote: > I am a mac person as well and I am supported by iTunes. In that case, > what should I be ripping new tunes as? Two good choices: Apple Lossless or .aiff. Squeezeboxes don't seem to enjoy the former much: no ff or rew function, and it has to be transcoded on the fly to something they can read natively. However, it takes up no more space than FLAC (which has no such problems, but which iTunes and iPod can't play at all.). Aiff, on the other hand, takes up about twice as much space as ALAC, but otherwise handles better because Squeezebox can read it natively. It does not need to be transcoded. FF and REW work, and there's much less burden on the server because there's no transcoding being done (so less likelihood of dropouts if you're using a slow old box like mine to run Slimserver). If you run the SB on a wireless network using Airport Extreme you may find that you get drop outs using Aiff if your house is nasty to it, in which case try setting up an Airport Express as a wireless/ethernet bridge (ie the AE receives the signal but transfers it to the Squeezebox via ethernet cable). I use this setup, with aiff, and it runs extremely well (but you need lots of disc space - ie 600Mb or so on average per CD). Loads of threads on aiff/alac/flac etc. Try this one: <http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20693&highlight=max+flac+itunes> -- geraint smith geraint smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32249 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Poll: Wired or wireless?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31930 Question: Do you use your Slim Devices equipment wired or wirelessly? - All wired - All wirelessly - I have several units, some operate wired, some wireless Is wired via ethernet bridge from Airport Express wired or wireless? Both at once? That's how my (working) SB2 is set up (and the spare one isn't!). Works well. Mostly. Geraint. -- geraint smith geraint smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31930 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Itunes and aiif
Eric Seaberg;166852 Wrote: > I do know there's an OPTION to rip at 48kHz, but you're wasting > bandwidth! Sorry! I misunderstood you. I thought you were being puzzled - ie "there shouldn't be an option" meaning "what's this about an option? Where are you seeing it? There shouldn't be one there" because that's the way I'd probably have phrased it myself (to be gentle!) but in fact you were saying "this option is silly because there's no point in it and it should not be there". Which is fair enough. A little touch of ambiguity in the night! Eric Seaberg;166852 Wrote: > Since the original was at 44.1kHz and has a 'brick-wall' filter at > 20kHz, there's NO reason to re-sample (rip) at anything other than the > original 44.1kHz... THERE'S NOTHING THERE!! You're just making the > file LARGER for no reason (please excuse the CAPS, but I'm hoping it > makes a point). There's no need to shout, you know! I know very well already that this is all perfectly correct. However, I thought when I wrote that I remembered seeing some debate about the matter somewhere recently and thought I'd better mention it even if it doesn't make sense (and even if I certainly can't tell the difference and don't quite see how, logically, anyone could.) Eric Seaberg;166852 Wrote: > ...As far as transferring from vinyl, if you're planning on putting > the final product on CD, you're still better off recording at 44.1k or > 88.2k. If your record at 48k then SRC down to 44.1k, the math involved > is not as easy to accomplish as if going from 88.2 to 44.1. Of course > this also depends on whose SRC you're using. > > I still offer the best option of keeping it at 44.1kHz if that's your > final product, yet record at 24-bit whenever possible. Yes, of course this is true if one wants to record to CD subsequently, but if the main use of the material is to put it through a sound card (or external DAC - or a Squeezebox?) then, and again correct me if I'm wrong, isn't 48kHz actually quite a good thing because many sound cards surreptitiously work on that rate? And yes, as far as I'm concerned it's iTunes' inability to rip at 24 bit that is its biggest drawback. Eric Seaberg;166852 Wrote: > I've been in the mastering/recording business since 1971 and have tried > and tested it all. TRUST ME!! Well, you know, I did absolutely until that moment, but now you've really me suspicious. Now I'm thinking: so what have you got to hide, and when's the sucker punch coming? Geraint. PS. Do I need to add this? ;^) -- geraint smith geraint smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31176 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Itunes and aiif
Eric Seaberg;166797 Wrote: > Keith, there shouldn't be a setting in iTunes to change the ripping > sample rate! ALL audio CDs are 44.1kHz!!! Only video (DVD, etc) are > 48kHz... that's the 'standard'. > > DO NOT confuse BITRATE with SAMPLE RATE!! The settings for AIF > encoding should be set to AUTOMATIC. Let it do what it THINKS it > should do. DO NOT CUSTOMIZE to a higher sample rate as it will totally > screw up your chances to re-burn to an Audio CD, if you ever want to do > that. > > Otherwise, go to APPLE LOSSLESS as it will retain the quality while > saving some HD space. Make SURE you've got "USE ERROR CORRECTION WHEN > READING AUDIO CDs" checked in ALL instances of ripping, as this will > make sure you're grabbing all of the data where > scratches/fingerprints/mustard have been smeared on the CD surface. It > may take a little longer, but you're chances of a good rip are improved > considerably. erI hate to contradict Eric, but there is in fact an option in iTunes to sample at either 48kHz or 44.1kHz (in the "Preferences - importing - custom" menu). I leave it at 44.1kHz, myself. There's some debate about whether sampling at the higher rate will do anything for ripping CDs of which, as Eric says, the standard rate is 44.1. In any case, it used to be true (pre-Transporter) that no Slim Device could handle this, I think, but I believe that that has now changed. Really, it is a matter of preference - as Ross said to you right at the start, suck it and see. I can myself hear no advantage in oversampling to 48kHz when ripping CDs. However, when transfering from vinyl, it sounds better to me if I use the higher sample rate throughout the chain of capture/digitisation (although I may be imagining this. I've not double blind tested it), and the higher the rate, the better I think it sounds all the way up to 192kHz - better than CD, in fact. In any case, it is easy to convert back down to 44.1kHz if you do want to burn a CD. Bitrate is indeed automatic, and will be 1411kbps at 44.1kHz sample rate. (It's higher if you do choose 48kHz). Incidentally, iTunes will perfectly happily handle and play files with sample rates up to at least 96kHz (I pick that one because I've just found one at that rate in my library) if you can get another programme to sample at that rate. It just won't rip at anything above 48kHz itself - probably just as well, because if you think 44.1kHz/1411kbps eats disc space, you should see the size of a file at 96kHz sample rate and the accompanying bit rate of 3072kbps! -- geraint smith geraint smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31176 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Bach to the drawing board......music missing from Slimserver (yet again)
SteveEast;166777 Wrote: > Since v7, iTunes has taken to squirrelling the artwork away in a > location unknown to SS. The easiest workaround is to embed the artwork > in each track. I believe there's a script to automate that on the Mac - > search this site. > > Steve. Thanks, Steve. I've been using Coverscout, which I thought did the unsquirrelling and embedding, but perhaps in ways mysterious to Slim. It shows me cover art for about 97 per cent of the albums - which is a lot more than SS knows about! I'll have a scout round myself for the script. Geraint. -- geraint smith geraint smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31139 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Bach to the drawing board......music missing from Slimserver (yet again)
totoro;166521 Wrote: > I had a similar problem recently. I uninstalled and reinstalled the > server, and teverything showed up again. > > You might be able to get it to work by shutting down the server, as > well as any mysql processes, and deleting everything under > $slimserver/server/cache/mysql. > > I've also experienced weirdness wrt the album art. I had a similar > experience with itunes and album art, and when I switched to flac, an > apparently randomly different set of albums showed up with no artwork > (looks like it was a much lower percentage of my collection). > > Maybe you should enter a bug about the album art, if you think yours is > reproducible. I'd vote for it. I didn't enter mine, as it seemed that > reproducing it would be very hard. Uninstall/reinstall did the trick. In the interim between starting this thread and anyone else taking it up, I had asked Slim tech support for their help. They opined that there was something wrong with the pref or database file, and suggested deleting the contents of various folders - including the one you mention, totoro - but SlimServer then refused to restart at all, so in the end they came down behind a full wipe and replace. They also gave me the idiots' guide I needed to doing it (which was jolly decent of them, as ever). The result is that the contents of iTunes and SlimServer now more or less match, and SS is also running (and scanning) much more quickly, as is the web interface. While uninstalling, I ran a Spotlight search for Slim files, and discovered a .dmg file for the nightly build of 14 December. I knew I'd installed one nightly build, but wasn't sure exactly when. Since this fits the chronology more closely than I'd recalled, I have a feeling that this may have been the culprit. Which I hope isn't too ominous! Perhaps it was the attempt to instal this without uninstalling 6.5 that did the damage. Anyway, many thanks for your help to totoro and all others kind enough to assist. I'll have another look at the artwork issue now, too, (although I don't think I have enough of an idea of how to report a bug actually to do that yet!) Thanks again. Geraint. -- geraint smith geraint smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31139 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Itunes and aiif
KeithL;10 Wrote: > Thanks for the replies. I thought aiff was one of the lossless formats. > Keith Yes, it is: lossless and uncompressed. And yes, iTunes and Aiff are an excellent solution for ripping/storing if you are using a Squeezebox, iTunes and a Mac (and, indeed, an iPod), provided that you are happy with a format that gobbles hard disc space. (I assume, since you are talking about AIFF rather than WAV, that you are running a Mac). You get undegraded sound quality with maximum flexibility and user friendliness. You would also get the sound quality from any of WAV, FLAC or Apple Lossless (ALAC) files, but these formats all have disadvantages for Squeezebox users running iTunes on Macs, especially if they also use an iPod. A summary: ALAC: 1. Squeezeboxes don't play ALAC, so SlimServer has to transcode it into FLAC or AIFF or WAV as it's playing in order to make sense of it for the Squeezebox. This puts a load on the processing/streaming chain that is not strictly necessary and which some (myself included) think results in lacunae - drop-outs - in the signal over a wireless network. 2. you can't use fast forward or reverse if you are using ALAC. You can using AIFF. 3. It is very much an Apple format, with consequent implications for universal use. Many devices/players including PCs, won't handle it at all (although the same is true to some extent of Aiff). FLAC is a good format for PC users (provided they don't iPod), but it's a non-starter if you want to use iTunes and a Mac because iTunes doesn't recognise it. Neither does an iPod. WAV files don't carry tags and will probably end up in an amorphous heap in iTunes, labelled "no album, no artist" - and no use! I've got a bag of them somewhere... The only disadvantage that I can see of Aiff is that one CD takes about 700Mb, so one would be talking terabytes for a big collection. Still, storage is cheap, and in my view, iTunes and Aiff give the best combination of ease of use, flexibility and sound quality. There are other programmes you can use to rip onto a Mac, but I'm not sure there's any advantage in them except for damaged or otherwise difficult discs. All the ones I've looked at are just ripping programmes. You then have to sort out tags as a separate operation, from what I've seen. That seems a total pain, and I've seen no convincing evidence that they give any better sound quality, or more accurate, or better corrected, copying from CD than does iTunes. (I'd like to, if anyone has some). The only disadvantage I can see to iTunes - leaving aside debatable claims for other programmes of sonic superiority all else being equal - is that it can handle only a maximum of 48kHz, 16 bit. It cannot rip to 24 bit 196kHz. That may be OK if you're only ripping CDs, but if you're digitising pristine vinyl to tracks for use via a Transporter, which I believe can handle the higher bit/sample rates, you may want something better. Corrections welcomed if any of this is wrong, of course. (I'd better apologise now for any blunders, I think!) -- geraint smith geraint smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31176 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Bach to the drawing board......music missing from Slimserver (yet again)
totoro;166521 Wrote: > I had a similar problem recently. I uninstalled and reinstalled the > server, and teverything showed up again. > > You might be able to get it to work by shutting down the server, as > well as any mysql processes, and deleting everything under > $slimserver/server/cache/mysql. > > I've also experienced weirdness wrt the album art. I had a similar > experience with itunes and album art, and when I switched to flac, an > apparently randomly different set of albums showed up with no artwork > (looks like it was a much lower percentage of my collection). > > Maybe you should enter a bug about the album art, if you think yours is > reproducible. I'd vote for it. I didn't enter mine, as it seemed that > reproducing it would be very hard. That sounds a promising approach. I'll try uninstall/reinstall when I have a moment this evening. Thank you very much, Totoro. Is there any idiot's guide to uninstalling available, (including Mysql) or is it fairly self-evident. I wonder whether all this is connected with a new nightly build. It may be the result of updating from 6.5 to a nightly build 6.5.1, although I can't now remember when I did that. Anyway, thanks again. I'll give it a whirl later today - and take another look at the album art, too. Geraint. -- geraint smith geraint smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31139 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Bach to the drawing board......music missing from Slimserver (yet again)
adamslim;166483 Wrote: > What about length of filename, including path? Is there a limit within > SS? I had trouble with some very long filenames a while back. > > You could also try getting MP3Tag to cut and paste the tags (i.e. > cutting whatever is there, be it ID2, ID3v1, ID3v2 etc etc and pasting > just ID3v2) for an album that fails. > > Adam Thank you for the suggestions, Adam. I must investigate filename length further. I have to say, though, that I'd noticed no problem until the last ten days. I also rather think, though, that some of those missing are even shorter than "New York (Christmas)" which is what Slimserver's sole surviving album of Bach cantatas is called. I'd been trying to find a tag editor for Mac. Does MP3Tag work with AIFF and Macs? Sorry. I seem to be making free with the questions today. Geraint. -- geraint smith geraint smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31139 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Bach to the drawing board......music missing from Slimserver (yet again)
Justme;166459 Wrote: > Do you have McAfee Internet Security installed? > > If so, On McAfee Security Center, set the "Specify Types of files to > scan" on real time scanning, to program files and documents only. The > try rescanning library. Nice thought, for which I'm grateful, but no. Mine is a Mac PPC system. -- geraint smith geraint smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31139 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Bach to the drawing board......music missing from Slimserver (yet again)
In the wake of (another's) solved Mystery of the Missing Janacek, I present in hope and anxiety and with a plaintive request for aid, a further Christmas conundrum: the Case of the Walkabout Bach. Last week, according to Slimserver, I had around 600 albums ripped. This week, I seem to have 335. What has happened in the interim, I have absolutely no idea. If anybody else has any clues, I'd be very grateful to hear them. I'm running an eMac 800MHz with iTunes, music stored on a separate LaCie Triple 250Gb HD. Nothing about this setup has changed recently. SlimServer is set to look at the iTunes library in the usual place (/users/username/music/iTunes), and for the music in the correct volume (/volumes/volumename/iTunes/iTunes music). Nothing about that has changed. Among the missing albums are all of the Gardiner/Monteverdi Choir Bach Cantata Pilgrimage so far released, which I'd ripped over the last six months or so (wonderful music, incidentally) - except for the one I ripped a week before Christmas which is, oddly enough, the Christmas one (vol. 15). I've checked the relevant folders. All of the Pilgrimage series is shown in iTunes. They are all - as carefully retagged - under the same artist, and the files themselves are all, as right and proper, contained in close proximity in the same artist folder on the LaCie drive. There appears to be no difference between the position, folder or file for vol. 15, and those for vols. 1,7,8,10 etc. iTunes plays them all with great alacrity. However, vol 15 exists in Slimserver, and vols 1,7,8,10 etc do not. That also leaves another 300 albums that also seem to have vanished without trace, but are less clearly near-identical. I have tried: deleting/rebuilding my iTunes library (although the contents of that are clearly correct); pointing Slimserver to the precise addresses of said library and to the music folders; pointing Slimserver to no addresses, but specifying merely "use iTunes"; leaving the "look for playlists in" field blank; filling ditto field in; rescanning (times about nine, at the last approximation); installing the latest nightly rebuild of 6.5.1; screaming a lot, which seemed to help at the time, but did not noticeably restore any music. I am also running Coverscout and CDPedia, although why these should have any effect, I have not the faintest idea, either, being completely and utterly baffled. So, if anyone does have any ideas, I'd be very grateful indeed. Oh, and while I'm on the whinge, Slimserver doesn't see all my carefully collected artwork, either, even though iTunes and CDPedia assure me that it is there, and visible. These helpful applications also assure me that the album count that Slimserver previously recorded was accurate, and should, if the world were a fairer place, be unchanged. Thanks in advance. Geraint. -- geraint smith geraint smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31139 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Why use iTunes
SteveEast;138716 Wrote:
> That's only true if you scan directly. If you scan through iTunes you
> get all the tags.
>
> Steve.
Yes, and it works in practice, too. Some months - sorry, aeons - ago,
before I knew better and with a degree of intelligence which astounded
even me, I managed to delete my entire iTunes music file, (don't ask)
having completely failed to back up the several months of work this
represented (you may congratulate me later if you wish). The newly
released DataRescue 2 did a superb job in recovering the lot, including
all the iTunes labels and headings (harmonising and correcting the CDDB
version of which had made up most of the months of work).
Unfortunately, though, not those for my digitised vinyl. This left a
piled heap of musical snatches from des Pres to Dire Straits labelled
"File 1" to "File 4759" or something like that, to re-excavate, the
musical equivalent of the aftermath of a tornado at the archeological
finds warehouse for a cemetary dig. (Ever tried sorting out a few
dozen Gibbons pieces for viol consort from a few dozen Dowland pieces
for viol consort and putting them in the right order, without the
music? Hint: don't.) I'm not quite sure what I might have done to
attach tags to these files securely and so avoid the painful bit, but
certainly there was no problem with the work that iTunes had already
done painlessly for me the first time on the CDs.
Ripping directly into iTunes gives me the full range of labels and
headings (which is what I call them, because I never see the tags
themselves) that I need. In fact, it gives a much wider and more
versatile range than SlimServer will allow me to use ("composer," and
seperate entries (in version 7) for "album artist" and "track artist"
for instance) on the SB. It is immensely flexible, and extremely easy
(allowing for the shortcomings and inconsistencies of CDDB which, as
I've said, for classical music are considerable and annoying, although
that said, it's still better to have to relabel the odd 1965 Decca
recording of the Wiener Philharmonker from Japanese than to have to do
absolutely everything all the time). And, allowing for the
post-production smoothing and editing necessary for classical and early
music, it's all done from ripping to playing in one seamless process.
The only real disadvantage of which I've heard that really does bother
me is that I'm told that the error correction in iTunes does not match
up to some Windows only programmes, like Exact Audio Copy (I still
can't get this to work for me, but that is without doubt the astounding
intelligence in evidence again). That may affect the sound quality of
iTunes ripping generally (although I've not noticed any degradation in
my collection) but does, I'm told, does make it come off second best
when restoring a damaged or flawed discs so that it sounds better than
the original.
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[slim] Re: Why use iTunes
blackbear;138676 Wrote: > Sorry, but that is just plain wrong. You seem ignorant of the difference > lossy and lossless compressed formats. With lossless formats, such as > FLAC, all information is retained, and when uncompressed, an exact > duplicate of the original bytestream is achieved. Thus, there is no > sonic difference between a .wav and a .flac of the same song. They are > both "the gold standard". > > Yes, disk space has become very cheap, but so has proccessing power, > and the cost of compressing and decompressing is no excuse not to use > (lossless) compression. > > And, as Nostromo correctly ponted out, .aiff and .wav have inferior or > nonexistent tagging capabilities, unlike FLAC and many others. Perhaps > iTunes hides that from you (I wouldn't know as I don't use iTunes) Please don't start throwing accusations of ignorance around. It's ill-mannered, boring, unnecessary and also happens to be wrong. This was a simple mis-phrasing on my part. I meant that there is continuing argument about the merits or otherwise of lossless compressed formats. Listen to any bunch of audiophiles, and they'll probably be at it at some time. There is no such argument about the sonic qualities of the uncompressed formats. Why does one need an "excuse" to use an uncompressed format? I happen to prefer uncompressed files because I find them more versatile and useful and I'm also not convinced that adding to the complexity of any process is necessarily a good thing. (Nobody mentioned the cost of processing as an argument, I believe.) That is a perfectly reasonable - and reasonably well-informed and rational - position to hold. It certainly doesn't strike me as terribly provocative. What you say about tagging merely repeats, with more aggression but without imparting any additional information, a point about which I'd already agreed I knew nothing because I use iTunes, and therefore am not aware that I need to know anything - which may, or may not, be an advantage of using iTunes, depending on your point of view. But I'm really not interested in an argument. I was rather hoping for an entertaining and possibly illuminating discussion. -- geraint smith geraint smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27729 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Why use iTunes
Nostromo;138512 Wrote: > :lol: > > ALAC supports gapless playback? Are you sure? EDIT: I quickly checked, > and it does seem to support gapless playback. But I don't think that > plain vanilla AAC supports gapless. And neither AAC or ALAC support FWD > and REV. > > As for AIFF, I really don't see the point in using it. If its anything > like WAV, there's no difference, soundwise, with ALAC or FLAC, AIFF > tracks take a lot more of space and its a poor choice for tagging > purposes. > > On ReplayGain > > http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?RGFoobar > > But its not recommended for music with high dynamic range, like > classical. No, I checked, too, and you're quite right, and I was quite wrong, about AAC and ALAC. Sorry! (That shows how much I use them!) I disagree about AIFF, though. In fact, I'd put it the other way round. I don't see the point in NOT using aiff (or .wav). They are, unarguably, the gold standard sonically, which one cannot say of any of the compressed formats, about the relative merits of which or differences between which there always seems to be some sort of barney going on somewhere. There's lots else in favour of not using compression - flexibility, rapidity of ripping, ability to upsample/edit digitised vinyl, simplicity of processing, not to mention all the things you can do with them on Squeezebox - that make make ripping to anything else seem to me like spoiling the ship for a ha'p'eth of tar. The only argument I can see in its favour is disc space, but this is now so incredibly cheap that it seems to me like false economy to stint on it and risk (perhaps) compromising the output of, for instance, a five figure (or more) audio setup. Concerning tagging - now, you definitely lose me. I've never myself found any shortcomings in or limitations to the labelling that I need of Aiff files. This may well be because - being a benighted iTunes user! - I don't know anything at all about it, and don't really know what is possible. That wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. Lead me, therefore, to tagging Nirvana, O Nostromo, for I comprehend it not. -- geraint smith geraint smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27729 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Why use iTunes
Nostromo;138456 Wrote: > Its an intuitive, convenient and easy to use all-in-one package allowing > you rip your music, tag it and organize it, create playlists and, most > importantly, smart playlists. Smart playlists are great. Its not the > absolutely perfect way to do all of these things, but it gets the job > done. Its also great for people who don't know beans about computers or > who don't want the hassle of finding the apps, then configuring them. > > Unfortunately, iTunes doesn't support FLAC. Which means that iTunes > users can't enjoy : > > - Gapless playback on they're Squeezebox (the Squeezebox doesn't have a > workaround yet for the limitations of MP3 and AAC) > > - Replaygain > > - Can't use RWD or FFW, unless using MP3's. > > I'm not using iTunes anymore. The feature I'll miss the most is > definitively smartplaylists. Fortunately, Erland wrote SQLplaylist > plugin. He did a great job, but he'll be the first to admit that its > not as intuitive and easy to use as the Apple smart playlists. All true except for the "can't enjoy" bit. What about ALAC and AIFF? They work a treat gaplessly. I've just been listening to a gapless AIFF Solti Tannhauser on SS6.5 via SB2. Bliss over wireless. And WAV, for that matter. I don't myself know whether that works, because, being an Apple pip, I don't use it much, but doesn't it? And FWD and REV work with AIFF (certainly - just been playing with it) and ALAC, (I think) too. As for this "replaygain" of which you speak, I confess I know little of it. If, however, it's the same as smart pre-set volume adjustment for individual tracks or albums then it definitely works for AIFF and ALAC because, having finally got 6.5 working - very nice congratulations to the team and all - after some wireless tribulations, it took me a while to work out why it was being so nannyish about letting me play it loud. Some pesky default setting, it seems, but it shows it works. Come back, O, Nostromo, Come back! Harken to the siren song of iTunes! (Fixes him with hypnotic gaze. Fails dismally. Loads super boy scout-type cardboard catapult instead, but hits passing policeman. Oh, well. One can but try.) -- geraint smith geraint smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27729 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Can No Longer Connect
NY2006;137957 Wrote: > "I've got round it by connecting the SB2 by ethernet to my Airport > Express, which handles the password for it, and telling it that it is > connected to an ethernet network, not a wireless one. However, this > still leaves the question of why the SB2 apparently couldn't send the > WPA2 password properly itself." > > > For the wireless connection you might want to try to change the > password for your wireless connection as I had a similar situation and > changing the password solved the problem then. Thank you again. In the end, (and before seeing your note, I have to say), I did it the other way round: rather than fiddle about with the whole network, I used the working ethernet/Airport Express connection to reinstal the firmware (in effect resetting the machine). That appeared to clear the password problem and all is now working as it should. Once again, many thanks for your help. -- geraint smith geraint smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27622 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Can No Longer Connect
NY2006;137892 Wrote: > "I am having the same problem, but I'm afraid I do not understand this > solution. What settings, where? What "pin"? The WPA password? Where > does this message about the need to link to the player appear? I'm > getting one (on the SB2) that says, simply, "cannot connect to > network". And on the web interface, I'm getting "cannot find a player". > It was all working so well before the software/firmware updates! I'd > appreciate your help, too!" > > from the Squeezeboox remote..go into settings look for Player pin then > on your pc go Squeezebox Network website delete old player name there > create the name or different player name and put the pin code you saw > at settings. Hope this helps. Thanks for the try, but although it looked as though it should have done, it didn't. The problem, I think, is earlier in the sequence than this, and appears to be to do with password recognition for the wireless network (Airport, in my case). It was asking for the WPA2 password, then failing to connect as though the password I'd entered (four times, plus re-entering the same password in Airport Utility configuration just to make sure) was incorrect (which it wasn't!) I've got round it by connecting the SB2 by ethernet to my Airport Express, which handles the password for it, and telling it that it is connected to an ethernet network, not a wireless one. However, this still leaves the question of why the SB2 apparently couldn't send the WPA2 password properly itself. -- geraint smith geraint smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27622 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Can No Longer Connect
NY2006;137832 Wrote: > "I'm running a SB3 and have been going great since last Xmas. Tonight it > started to skip and generally not play at all. I updated the firmware on > the Sqeezebox and now the player will not connect at all. I'm only > running the windows firewall and I have the exception for port 3483. > > My internet is running fine overall so it shouldn't be the router. I > have absolutely no idea. It's like the SB3's wireless functionality has > gone up in smoke. > > Any ideas of what this could be? I'd appreciate your help. > > Thanks!" > > > I had the same experience...after updating firmware would not > connect...then I checked the settings which required the new pin to be > enter at Squeezebox Network as the message said needs to be linked to > Player..try this it should work. I am having the same problem, but I'm afraid I do not understand this solution. What settings, where? What "pin"? The WPA password? Where does this message about the need to link to the player appear? I'm getting one (on the SB2) that says, simply, "cannot connect to network". And on the web interface, I'm getting "cannot find a player". It was all working so well before the software/firmware updates! I'd appreciate your help, too! -- geraint smith geraint smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27622 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] slimserver crashing
Hi. I'm having problems with Slimserver crashing/quitting every few minutes. It's running on Mac OSX 10.3.9, via Airport Extreme, to two Squeezebox 2s, both of them brand new. Playing from my iTunes playlists (on an eMac 800MHz) it runs for a few minutes, then shuts down. Have not tried with the whole library yet, but what I've been using is Apple lossless. Funny thing is, it was all perfect before I went to bed Anyone any ideas, please? Geraint Smith. -- geraint smith ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
