Re: [slim] A Spotify virgin seeking guidance
I am using Spotty and LMS 7.9.1. I actually eventually bit the bullet and upgraded to 7.9.1 *because* I use Spotify (and hence Spotty) a lot. Indeed it is awesome to discover new music, ot to check out new music by a fav artist before plonking down on the CD ti rip it and get that infinitesimal AQ extra. :-D 7.9.1 is absolutely rock solid. Works actually better than the old versions, IMHO. And integration with Spotify via Spotty in 7.9.1 is awesome. So my recommendation is to bite the bullet and upgrade to 7.9.1 and leave things like that, it's far less work than setting up a separate Pi-based system, I'd imagine. Only caveat with using Spotify through Spotty is that, while you can of course create great playlists, when you save them within LMS they shall stay in LMS, and not propagate to Spotify (say, when you're in the gym and want to listen to a playlist you created through LMS). I tent to use the two systems for different music listening styles, so it suits me, but YMMV. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 14 Pro) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A Spotify virgin seeking guidance
d6jg wrote: > I disagree with this. > > I use Spotify (Spotty) in conjunction with DSTM (Don't Stop The Music) & > the Lastmix plugin. DSTM is built into LMS since 7.9 > > Basically I play an album or playlist from my own FLACs. At the end of > the playlist DSTM automatically adds 5 new tracks (Based on what I have > been playing and using data from Last FM). These new tracks are selected > either from my own collection or from Spotify or a mixture of both. > After these 5 tracks another 5 get added etc. Spotify frequently throws > me stuff I have never heard before which I may then investigate > further. > > Another plugin that comes in useful here is What Was That Tune - which > stores a log of what player played what so I can reference back. > > I don't use the Spotify Connect ability of Spotty at all. I've had flaky results with DSTM, but, to each their own. As a user of both environments, this works best for me, your approach works best for you. Up to the OP to distil his best scenario out of the opinions and options we present him with ;) Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004 + TMA Premium 905 + TMA Premium 901 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 + BK Monolith+ FF + Lenovo T460 + Kodi + Pioneer PDP-LX5090H Workshop: iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Wherever needed: Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Kitchen: iPhone 5s + iPeng (local playback activated) + NAD 312 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 Headphone (cozy corner): Lenovo T550 + Squeezelite-X + Cyrus Soundkey + Topping A30 + Focal Elear Car: TBC ... bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A Spotify virgin seeking guidance
bakker_be wrote: > Regarding Spotify: it can be a useful resource, but to have it really > become that you'll also have to use it outside of LMS I'm afraid. I disagree with this. I use Spotify (Spotty) in conjunction with DSTM (Don't Stop The Music) & the Lastmix plugin. DSTM is built into LMS since 7.9 Basically I play an album or playlist from my own FLACs. At the end of the playlist DSTM automatically adds 5 new tracks (Based on what I have been playing and using data from Last FM). These new tracks are selected either from my own collection or from Spotify or a mixture of both. After these 5 tracks another 5 get added etc. Spotify frequently throws me stuff I have never heard before which I may then investigate further. Another plugin that comes in useful here is What Was That Tune - which stores a log of what player played what so I can reference back. I don't use the Spotify Connect ability of Spotty at all. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A Spotify virgin seeking guidance
I think the OP would need to update to a more recent version of LMS. Plus Spotty doesn't work with all servers. Yes, I'm pretty sure the current Spotty plugin won't work on SS 7.6.1 (which dates from 2011). TBH I'm not 100% sure it wouldn't work. But I've never tested it. And some of the nice-to-have features even require 7.9.1 (eg. seeking within a track). I presume the Logitech-supplied "Spotify" plugin listed on 7.6.1 isn't the current one - didn't I see some threads a while back about how Spotify had changed their APIs? That plugin is defunct. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A Spotify virgin seeking guidance
cliveb wrote: > Thanks for the responses. > > > Yes, I'm pretty sure the current Spotty plugin won't work on SS 7.6.1 > (which dates from 2011). > I presume the Logitech-supplied "Spotify" plugin listed on 7.6.1 isn't > the current one - didn't I see some threads a while back about how > Spotify had changed their APIs? > > > OK, understood. But that doesn't alter the desire to have it available > via my various Squeezebox players. Correct, you need Spotty. With Spotty you can have just that, and it works just flawlessly. Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004 + TMA Premium 905 + TMA Premium 901 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 + BK Monolith+ FF + Lenovo T460 + Kodi + Pioneer PDP-LX5090H Workshop: iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Wherever needed: Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Kitchen: iPhone 5s + iPeng (local playback activated) + NAD 312 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 Headphone (cozy corner): Lenovo T550 + Squeezelite-X + Cyrus Soundkey + Topping A30 + Focal Elear Car: TBC ... bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A Spotify virgin seeking guidance
Thanks for the responses. Grumpy Bob wrote: > I think the OP would need to update to a more recent version of LMS. > Plus Spotty doesn't work with all servers. Yes, I'm pretty sure the current Spotty plugin won't work on SS 7.6.1 (which dates from 2011). I presume the Logitech-supplied "Spotify" plugin listed on 7.6.1 isn't the current one - didn't I see some threads a while back about how Spotify had changed their APIs? bakker_be wrote: > Regarding Spotify: it can be a useful resource, but to have it really > become that you'll also have to use it outside of LMS I'm afraid. OK, understood. But that doesn't alter the desire to have it available via my various Squeezebox players. Transporter -> ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A Spotify virgin seeking guidance
cliveb wrote: > Up to now I've only ever played music from a local server, and since my > very old setup (Squeezebox Server 7.6.1) does everything I need and has > been utterly rock-solid, have never felt the urge to upgrade. > > But friends tell me that Spotify is such a useful resource for finding > new music that I feel I really should investigate it. > > A bit of cursory reading implies that perhaps the simplest approach > would be to build a new server on a Raspberry Pi with piCorePlayer, and > the necessary Spotify plugin comes built-in, ready to install/activate. > Is it really as easy as that? > > Additionally, I currently use a couple of third party plugins that MUST > continue to work - specifically Power Switch II and Power Save. Would > they still work on the later LMS that piCorePlayer installs? > > I also use Squeezer on Android devices as a controller, but am prepared > to change to a different Android app if necessary to access Spotify. Any > recommendations? (As an aside, it would be nice to find an Android app > that provides selection of the Transporter's digital inputs, which > Squeezer does not do). Regarding Spotify: it can be a useful resource, but to have it really become that you'll also have to use it outside of LMS I'm afraid. It seems to me that if you only use it from inside LMS, using the Spotty plugin, it doesn't actually learn what you're preferences are. Spotify has several tailored playlists, as well as personal recommendations, and to me it seems as if these don't take into account the music I've played outside of the native Spotify app. The Spotty plugin actually allows for 2 ways of interacting with your Spotify Premium account: - Through Spotify Connect: this allows you to use the "Devices available" function of the native apps. - Directly browsing your Spotify library. This has no impact at all on what's playing through the native apps It's only music played the first way that actually seems to be taken into account. This method also allows for transferring playback from one device to another. An example: I use Spotify on my Android phone in my car. When I get home, I can just switch over what I'm playing to my Living room stereo, picking up where playback paused upon exiting my car. Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004 + TMA Premium 905 + TMA Premium 901 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 + BK Monolith+ FF + Lenovo T460 + Kodi + Pioneer PDP-LX5090H Workshop: iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Wherever needed: Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Kitchen: iPhone 5s + iPeng (local playback activated) + NAD 312 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 Headphone (cozy corner): Lenovo T550 + Squeezelite-X + Cyrus Soundkey + Topping A30 + Focal Elear Car: TBC ... bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A Spotify virgin seeking guidance
Mark Miksis wrote: > Maybe I'm missing something, but the simplest approach is probably to > just install the Spotty plugin on your existing server. Why does using > Spotify warrant a new server? I think the OP would need to update to a more recent version of LMS. Plus Spotty doesn't work with all servers. There are some threads on Spotty in the Third Party Software forum. Robert *Home: *Raspberry Pi 3/piCoreplayer/LMS7.9.2 with files on QNAP TS-251A Touch > DacMagic 100 > Naim Audio Nait 3 > Mission 752 (plus Rega Planar 3 > Rega Fono Mini; Naim CD3) PiCorePlayer(Pi2) with IQAudIO DAC+>Sennheisers 2 x Squeezebox Radios, 1 X Squeezebox 3 (retired), spare Pi2/piCorePlayer *Office:* LMS7.9.2 running on WiFi MyPassport drive > piCorePlayer(PiB)/HiFiBerryDAC > Amptastic Amplifier SqueezePad, iPeng as controllers last.fm/user/GrumpyBob Grumpy Bob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A Spotify virgin seeking guidance
Maybe I'm missing something, but the simplest approach is probably to just install the Spotty plugin on your existing server. Why does using Spotify warrant a new server? Mark Miksis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=529 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] A Spotify virgin seeking guidance
Up to now I've only ever played music from a local server, and since my very old setup (Squeezebox Server 7.6.1) does everything I need and has been utterly rock-solid, have never felt the urge to upgrade. But friends tell me that Spotify is such a useful resource for finding new music that I feel I really should investigate it. A bit of cursory reading implies that perhaps the simplest approach would be to build a new server on a Raspberry Pi with piCorePlayer, and the necessary Spotify plugin comes built-in, ready to install/activate. Is it really as easy as that? Additionally, I currently use a couple of third party plugins that MUST continue to work - specifically Power Switch II and Power Save. Would they still work on the later LMS that piCorePlayer installs? I also use Squeezer on Android devices as a controller, but am prepared to change to a different Android app if necessary to access Spotify. Any recommendations? (As an aside, it would be nice to find an Android app that provides selection of the Transporter's digital inputs, which Squeezer does not do). Transporter -> ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
