Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
I've renamed slimserver-convert.conf to custom-convert.conf but the problem is persisting. I've attached my convert.conf and custom-convert.conf files. Thanks Ian +---+ |Filename: convert.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3741| +---+ -- easystar easystar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14125 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
mplayer needs a special command line in a conf file. I think the one in this post should work. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=193656&postcount=16 Post the convert.conf, custom-convert.conf and slimserver-conver.conf that you currently have in your server directory. The file slimserver-convert.conf was renamed custom-convert.conf in 6.5.x and so technically you should not have both. If you have both conf files, there is the issue which files takes precedence and so it is best have just one or the other. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
They're both trusted apps in my firewall. I've tried simply changing the orginal convert.conf file by replacing mov123 with mplayer. This enables the m4a files to play without jittering but the audio is through the pc speakers and not the squeezebox. I'm sure I'm close but not quite there I've now reverted the convert.conf to the factory settings and put the slimserver-convert.conf file back in place. The M4As now refuse to play again as per my earlier debug file. The mplayer app was downloaded from your link on page 2 of this thread. Appreciate your help Ian -- easystar easystar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14125 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
Make sure socketwrapper.exe is also "trusted"/"unblocked" by your firewall s/w. Some firewall s/w blocks apps even thiugh the firewall is disabled. What version of mplayer is installed and where did you get it ? -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
Hi BPA, I've followed the instructions for using mplayer rather than mov123 for m4a files on slimserver 6.5.4. If I attempt to start playing an M4a file, no sound is output and the time remaining counter on the player does not reduce. I have vista 32 bit installed but have disabled my firewall and UAC. I've set mplayer to 'unblocked'. I've attached my debug log in the hope you can help! Thanks! +---+ |Filename: slimm4alog.txt | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3737| +---+ -- easystar easystar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14125 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
Regardless of SS version, socketwrapper is used with mplayer because of some mplayer shortcomings. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
bpa;224820 Wrote: > It's possible that a security app is not allowing mplayer to run. Also > mplayer will need to use socketwrapper so make sure mplayer.exe and > socketwrapper.exe are trusted app/exception in your security s/w. > > There was a change about using socketwrapper in 6.5.3 which might > affect its use with mplayer/m4a but try the security app change first > and then if it still does not work, do a debug log with d_source > enabled. I'm not running any security apps on Vista, no anti-virus nor any firewall either. I am using Slimserver 6.5.5, so I didn't think the socketwrapper thing was an issue? Anyway, I'll try the debug log and get back to this thread. Thanks again for trying to help! -- EnochLight EnochLight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3392 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
It's possible that a security app is not allowing mplayer to run. Also mplayer will need to use socketwrapper so make sure mplayer.exe and socketwrapper.exe are trusted app/exception in your security s/w. There was a change about using socketwrapper in 6.5.3 which might affect its use with mplayer/m4a but try the security app change first and then if it still does not work, do a debug log with d_source enabled. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
bpa;224788 Wrote: > The log says you have not installed mplayer.exe in the right place. > > You need to have in the same directory (something like Bin/MSWin32 ...) > as mov123.exe a file called mplayer.exe. Thanks - I just realized that and did it. However, when Slimserver attempts to play my m4a's now it just skips over them until it comes to an mp3 in the playlist. :-( Any other ideas? -- EnochLight EnochLight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3392 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
The log says you have not installed mplayer.exe in the right place. You need to have in the same directory (something like Bin/MSWin32 ...) as mov123.exe a file called mplayer.exe. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
bpa;193656 Wrote: > Some more thoughts and things to try out. > > 1. Testing WAV and FLAC may not be a good test as they may have been > sent directly to SB. Try playing a WMA file with Windows Media > builtin disabled. > > 2. I think the problem could be associated with loading QuickTime > libraries as mov123 uses QuickTime libraries. Making sure SoftSqueeze > and QuickTime (in the systray) are not running. Try to play one of > your m4a file using Quicktime player - is there a delay ? If there is > no delay then test is inconclusive as QuickTime could preload > libraries. > > 3. If Quicktime is the common problem and not file access then you > could try to use a different decoder such as mplayer. Here are the > steps > > A. Download, unzip and install mplayer.exe in the same directory as > mov123.exe. The link beow is for more recent build 1.0rc1 than in > AlienBBC. Don't forget to make mplayer a trusted app. > http://homepage.eircom.net/~altondsl/slim/mplayerrc1exe.ZIP > After installing, from a cmd box try running mplayer and make sure you > get a banner. > B. Download, unzip and install custom-convert.conf in the same > directory (i.e. server) as convert.conf. > http://homepage.eircom.net/~altondsl/slim/custom-convert.zip > > C. Restart Slimserver and check that there are 4 Apple entries in > Filetypes - mov123 handles AIFF - mplayer will handler and be checked > for Apple WAV, FLAC and possibly MP3 > D. Try an m4a file and if there is a delay post the log. > > 4. New version of debug socketwrapper - has a few more messages and the > counters are fixed (they were stuck at zeo in previous version) > http://homepage.eircom.net/~altondsl/slim/socketwrapper013.zip bpa, thanks for your assistance. I tried your suggestion and got the following: 1. The mplayer/flac, mplayer/lame, and mplayer show up for FLAC, MP3, and WAV under Apple Lossless, AAC, or Movie File, however - whenever I try to check them off I get the following statement: "Required binary was not found: [mplayer] -really-quiet -vc null -vo null -af volume=0,resample=44100:0:1,channels=2 -ao pcm:nowaveheader:file=#PIPE# $FILE$ | [flac] -cs --totally-silent --endian=little --channels=2 --sign=signed --bps=16 --sample-rate=44100 --compression-level-0 - Required binary was not found: [mplayer] -really-quiet -vc null -vo null -af volume=0,resample=44100:0:1,channels=2 -ao pcm:nowaveheader:file=#PIPE# $FILE$ | [lame] --silent -r -x -q $QUALITY$ -b $BITRATE$ - - Required binary was not found: [mplayer] -really-quiet -vc null -vo null -af volume=0,resample=44100:0:1,channels=2 -ao pcm:nowaveheader:file=#PIPE# $FILE$" Not sure what I am doing wrong. Can you offer any advice? Cheers! -- EnochLight EnochLight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3392 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
Success! I installed yesterday's 6.5.2 daily, renamed mplayerrc1.exe to mplayer.exe, installed custom-convert.conf into the same folder as convert.conf, and the issue is solved! M4a's are now playing flawlessly (and the web interface with yesterday's 6.5.2 is performing much better than last weekend's 6.5.2). BPA, I can't thank you enough; I would not be enjoying my music as I am at this moment without your help! -- Matt Shelton Matt Shelton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
I wrote the instructions for a 6.5.x installation and wasn't clear about renaming mplayerrc1.exe but by the time Matt got around to it he had downgraded to 6.3.1 and then tried to make the 6.5.x solution work with 6.3.x and ended up with a hybrid. Your success should give him encouragement that there is a solution and he is close. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
BPA Your suggestions for using MPlayer to play MP4 worked for me, not sure why they haven't worked for Matt. Running SlimServer Version 6.5.2 - 11700 on Windows Vista Ultimate 32bit. Couldn't play any MP4 files until I followed your instructions exactly. Now plays fine from both remote and Web Page. -- MrStan MrStan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1771 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
Interesting. It's not only SlimServer that is having troubles with MP4 files. Winamp will play them if you open the file and play manually but if you associate the file with Winamp and click on the file in explorer, winamp loads but the file will not play and Winamp cannot read the file tags. Nero Showtime works fine however so it certainly looks like a bit of Vista security is getting in the way somewhere. -- MrStan MrStan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1771 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
Are you by any chance using ReadyBoost? There have been some reports that Quicktime and ReadyBoost do not work well with each other. As a test can you the USB FLASH or disable it. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
> my wife is ready to forbid me from ever upgrading to a new op system > again > Listen to her - it is good advice - if everything is OK avoid upgrading OSs wherever possible failing that - make it a dual boot system so you can tackle new OS problem at leisure knowing you can reboot old system and have a normal life again. Test results are good - all potins down to Quicktime related and possibly a security interaction. > > As many users have been reporting in the Vista threads, they are > having problems opening the web interface with 6.5.0 or 6.5.1 or 6.5.2. > I started having those same problems, and no matter what I did, I could > no longer get the web interface to work properly. So, I reinstalled > 6.3.1, which was always the version that has worked best for me in XP. Up to now I think not many of the non-Slimdevices developers had Vista so no first hand experience - this is now changing. Latest 6.5.2 has changes to address Vista issues regarding services. I think other bug fixes including the web interface will follow. That said 6.3.1 was built using a version of ActiveState Perl which was not tested on Vista so I think it may not be the best solution for Vista. However as it seems to work OK stay with it until more Vista bugs are fixed. > Using 6.3.1, I followed your instructions re mplayer and > custom-convert.conf. > IIRC custom-convert.conf was called slimserver-convert.conf in 6.3.1. - that was the cause of the problem. I forgot I had save mplayer.exe as mplayerrc1.exe in the zip file - that was to stop people accidentally overwriting their mplayer.exe. I forgot to tell you to rename mplayerrc1.exe to mplayer.exe. I think mplayer.exe has problems if it is not called "mplayer.exe" > > interesting: When I tried to play a m4a song by selecting the m4a song > from the Squeezebox's remote in my living room, the song began playing > instantaneously on my p.c. in my den by mplayer. However, the song did > not play on the Squeezebox; after about 20 seconds the Squeezebox > simply emitted a very high pitched whine (I was able to duplicate this > scenario multiple times). Although the Squeezebox didn't work, I found > this encouraging, as selecting a song from my remote did in fact cause > an m4a file to play instantaneously, albeit not in the right place! > The default action of mplayer is to play through PC speakers - the command line options "-ao pcm:nowaveheader:file" redirect the sound to a file which would be processed by Flac. So that "test" was good. Whine came because no sound proper from mplayer - just text from mplayer converted by flac into audio stream sent to Squeezebox. Next steps - undo some of the previous steps and make changes to suit 6.3.1 1. Stop slimserver 2. Restore convert.conf as shipped. 3. Rename a clean copy of custom-convert.conf to slimserver-convert.conf - should be in same directory as convert.conf 4. Rename mplayerrc1.exe to mplayer.exe - it is in the Bin/MSWin32... directory. 5. Make sure you have replaced socketwrapper as installing 6.3.1. would have it back. Although I am not sure if socketwrapper is significant in 6.3.1 6. Start slimserver - check if mplayer is now chosen type 7. test an m4a file. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
Enoch Light: I converted all of my CDs to m4a and have bought very little from iTunes, so I haven't had a DRM issue. How are you playing your m4a's? Through Lame? BPA: Thanks again. I had to take a mental break from this exasperating problem for a week or two (my wife is ready to forbid me from ever upgrading to a new op system again), although I miss my music terribly! Here are the results of the latest tests. WMA files: With wmadec/flac and wmadec both enabled and wmadec/lame and Windows Media (built-in) both disabled, WMA files played instantaneously (with only the built-in enabled, WMA files played instantaneously). All files m4a, WMA, mp3 - play fine using SoftSqueeze. I verified that neither SoftSqueeze nor QuickTime were running in the system tray. I opened QuickTime, tried to play a .m4a file, and got either very long delays or complete program crashes. It really appears to me that my issue is directly related to issues with QuickTime running on Vista. As many users have been reporting in the Vista threads, they are having problems opening the web interface with 6.5.0 or 6.5.1 or 6.5.2. I started having those same problems, and no matter what I did, I could no longer get the web interface to work properly. So, I reinstalled 6.3.1, which was always the version that has worked best for me in XP. Using 6.3.1, I followed your instructions re mplayer and custom-convert.conf. First, I got a banner when I started mplayer from a cmd prompt. However, after closing and restarting slimserver and then checking File Types, mov123 was still listed for FLAC, wav, etc. I next opened the custom-convert.conf file and noted that you had listed the executable file as mplayer. However, the executable file is actually mplayerrc1. So, I next went into WordPad and changed mplayer to mplayerrc1 in custom-convert.conf. I closed and restarted SlimServer, and mov123 was still the default for FLAC, wav, etc., and I didnt have an option to select mplayerrc1. So next, deleted the custom-convert.conf file and opened convert.conf via WordPad. I simply changed the mov123 reference in FLAC to mplayerrc1. I restarted my p.c., reopened slimserver, check File Types, and mplayerrc1 was now in fact listed as the appropriate decoder. I found what happened next to be very interesting: When I tried to play a m4a song by selecting the m4a song from the Squeezeboxs remote in my living room, the song began playing instantaneously on my p.c. in my den by mplayer. However, the song did not play on the Squeezebox; after about 20 seconds the Squeezebox simply emited a very high pitched whine (I was able to duplicate this scenario multiple times). Although the Squeezebox didnt work, I found this encouraging, as selecting a song from my remote did in fact cause an m4a file to play instantaneously, albeit not in the right place! Next, I noticed, though, that the text for mov flc in the custom-convert.conf file is quite a bit different than the applicable text in convert.conf. Therefore, thinking that it wasnt as simple as changing [mov123] to [mplayerrc1] in convert.conf, I replaced the mov flc text in convert.conf in its entirety with the mov flc text in custom-convert.conf. End result: Nothing played at all on the Squeezebox or the p.c.. Mplayer didnt start, nothing happened. Nevertheless, Im still encouraged. Do you have any thoughts or advice? Do you think it could be a simple matter of ensuring the mov flc code from mplayerrc1 is correct? -- Matt Shelton Matt Shelton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
Just wanted to chime in since I went Vista... After I did so I discovered that my regular .m4a files played fine, but any .m4a file that I scrubbed of DRM after purchase from the iTMS wouldn't play unless I had the "mov123/flac" checked off for file type streaming. Prior to that, I only used the "Built-in" file types, thinking that all .m4a files would playback via AIFF. Didn't realize that it wasn't the correct one. Anyway, not sure if any of your .m4a's used to be infected with iTMS's "Fairplay" crap or not. Either way, I see you are attempting to use the "mov123/flac" streaming so I guess my situation was unrelated to yours. I am curious though, why are you using the socketwrapper if the Squeezebox supports .m4a playback already? -- EnochLight EnochLight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3392 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
Testing mov123 & Lame still has the common factor of the source file, socketwrapper and mov123. The problem needs to be isolated and see if it is associated with just one of the source file, socketwrapper and mov123. Here are some of the possibilities and associated conclusions. If problem occurs when playing with QuickTime on Vista PC then problem could be M4A file and/or QuickTime Libraries. If problem occurs when playing a WMA file through SoftSqueeze then the problem is socketwrapper / pipes related as there is no QuickTime or m4a files in this scenario. If problem does not occur when playing m4a files through mplayer - then problem is with QuickTime. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
Thanks for the suggestion; I'll try that tonight. I just tried the simple test of installing LAME 3.98 and selecting the mov123/lame decoder in File Types, and that didn't work, either. -- Matt Shelton Matt Shelton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
Some more thoughts and things to try out. 1. Testing WAV and FLAC may not be a good test as they may have been sent directly to SB. Try playing a WMA file with Windows Media builtin disabled. 2. I think the problem could be associated with loading QuickTime libraries as mov123 uses QuickTime libraries. Making sure SoftSqueeze and QuickTime (in the systray) are not running. Try to play one of your m4a file using Quicktime player - is there a delay ? If there is no delay then test is inconclusive as QuickTime could preload libraries. 3. If Quicktime is the common problem and not file access then you could try to use a different decoder such as mplayer. Here are the steps A. Download, unzip and install mplayer.exe in the same directory as mov123.exe. The link beow is for more recent build 1.0rc1 than in AlienBBC. Don't forget to make mplayer a trusted app. http://homepage.eircom.net/~altondsl/slim/mplayerrc1exe.ZIP After installing, from a cmd box try running mplayer and make sure you get a banner. B. Download, unzip and install custom-convert.conf in the same directory (i.e. server) as convert.conf. http://homepage.eircom.net/~altondsl/slim/custom-convert.zip C. Restart Slimserver and check that there are 4 Apple entries in Filetypes - mov123 handles AIFF - mplayer will handler and be checked for Apple WAV, FLAC and possibly MP3 D. Try an m4a file and if there is a delay post the log. 4. New version of debug socketwrapper - has a few more messages and the counters are fixed (they were stuck at zeo in previous version) http://homepage.eircom.net/~altondsl/slim/socketwrapper013.zip -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
I forgot one thing. In my internet research, I've noticed quite a bit of chatter stating that with Microsoft's and/or Apple's efforts to control "Digital Rights Management", people will run into problems playing their files. I don't believe that is the issue that is affecting me, as I did not purchase my .m4a files from iTunes. Rather, I converted my entire CD selection a year and a half ago to .m4a. As soon as I finished that in October 2005, I bought my Squeezebox, and it worked flawlessly and integrated perfectly with iTunes using XP. Oh why o why did I upgrade to Vista so soon???! -- Matt Shelton Matt Shelton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
Interesting. In my debugging efforts, here is what I did today and yesterday after reviewing your analysis of the debug report and after reading the website that you provided a link to, in order: a) Moved a few m4a files from my music file hard drive (f:) to my regular hard drive (c:) that has all other program files (including slimserver) and all data files. As I suspected, that didnt solve any m4a playback issues at all. b) Downloaded a few WAV and FLAC files and discovered that they play perfectly through slimserver. c) Went into the Control Panel to check out file associations. To my surprise, there wasnt an entry for a .m4a extension. However, there was an entry for an .aac extension. I changed the default program to open an .aac file (what is the difference between .aac and .m4a?) from Quicktime to slim.exe. This did not help with the .m4a playback issues at all. d) However, within minutes after making that modification, I received an interesting error message, given that I had not seen it in my three week effort since upgrading to Vista to get m4a files to play correctly. Vista Ultimate has certain color schemes that are not compatible with older programs. I soon received a message that appeared only briefly, stating that A running program is incompatible with certain elements of [it disappeared before I could read the entire message]. However, then the following message appeared: The color scheme has changed The following program has performed an action that requires Windows to temporarily change the color scheme to Windows Vista Basic. Program:mov123.exe Publisher: Process identifier (PID): 1260 Windows will automatically change the color scheme back to Windows Vista Aero when this program or other programs performing similar actions are no longer running. What I find interesting is that given that I had never seen that error message before, was Vista not recognizing mov123 before? That doesnt seem likely. e) In Vista, I can right-click on any executable file, click Properties, then click the Compatibility tab, and then choose to run the program in XP XP2 mode. At various times, Ive been running slim, slimtray, mov123, socketwrapper, etc. in compatibility mode. Mov123 was in compatibility mode when I received the above error message. I went in and turned compatibility mode off for all slimserver-related files, and I have no longer been receiving the above error message. However, I had been running mov123 in compatibility mode before, but had never been receiving that message. f) I then right-clicked on a .m4a file, as I remembered that I could also change what program opens the file in the General tab there. All of the .m4a files were set to open with a windows system program (unfortunately, I did not write down which, and as soon as I changed the setting for one file, it changed the setting for all .m4a files). I changed the default for .m4a to slim.exe. Once I did that, I re-opened file associations in the control panel to see that a file association for .m4a was not listed.However, that didnt solve the problem: it still took 10 to 20 seconds for an .m4a file to start playing (and that was after rescanning my library. g) Next, I uninstalled both iTunes and QuickTime. Much to my surprise, this had the effect of causing .m4a files not to play at all in slimserver anymore. Id click on Play, nothing, nada. So, I reinstalled both iTunes and Quicktime, and presto, I was back to my same 10 to 20 seconds for an .m4a file to play. h) Last, I changed the .m4a association from slim to mov123. That didnt solve the problem, either. So, Im back where I started, with no end in sight. Do I need to convert my 150 gib library from .m4a to something else? Ugh. Do I need to go back to XP? Other than this issue, everything has worked flawlessly with Vista for me. Ugh. Any suggestions? -- Matt Shelton Matt Shelton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
If this thread is true, then the delay problem is not in slimserver or socketwrapper. http://www.proxure.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=418&sid=bf720f27c4b91c6da6177ea7838535c3 What app has Vista associated with m4a extensions ? -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
My files are all local - albeit not on the same hard drive as slimserver. Maybe I'll move a m4A file over to the same hard drive as slimserver to see if that works. -- Matt Shelton Matt Shelton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
I'm glad to see the timestamps have returned. Below are two excepts: one from your log and one from from my XP system. I had d_source_v set on my system which is why there are additional messages. Socketwrapper is a very simple program which just has a thread per app. which reads from the source and copies to the destination - no real processing so delays are caused either waiting for a read or a write to finish. The interesting thing when comparing the logs is the time taken between starting a read and starting the corresponding write on my system was 1.2 secs but on your system it was 23.9 secs. Red for my log, blue for your log. Comparing key logs message SW: 2007-04-05 20:34:11.328 MoveDataThreadProc for step 2 about to call ReadFile. SW: 2007-04-05 20:34:12.500 MoveDataThreadProc for step 2 about to write data. SW: 2007-04-07 12:00:19.057 MoveDataThreadProc for step 2 about to call ReadFile. SW: 2007-04-07 12:00:42.923 MoveDataThreadProc for step 2 about to write data. This indicates that socketwrapper is OK but something is delaying the reading the file in socketwrapper or the implementation of socketwrapper in Vista is provoking the delay. My initial guess would be either network delays if the files are on a server or security/file locking. Are your files local or on a server ? I am unfamiliar with Vista but it looks like something is delaying access to the file to the socketwrapper program. Playing MP3 files do not use socketwrapper but still files are read. I'm not sure what to do - I can build a new version of socketwrapper which produces more messsages so all the steps are logged with associated timing. You could check out if anybody else experience delays with Vista apps using pipes and/or Named pipes. Larger excerpt of logs. Code: SW: 2007-04-07 12:00:19.057 MoveDataThreadProc for step 2 started. SW: 2007-04-07 12:00:19.057 MoveDataThreadProc for step 2 about to call ReadFile. SW: 2007-04-07 12:00:19.088 Running as follows SW: 2007-04-07 12:00:19.088 # =input== =output= ==type== etc SW: 2007-04-07 12:00:19.103 0 0003 0114 PROCESS [012c] "C:\Program Files\slimserver652v20070407\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\mov123.exe" "F:\iTunes\iTunes Music\Grateful Dead\1978-07-08 Red Rocks\1-01 Bertha.m4a" SW: 2007-04-07 12:00:19.103 1 0110 011c PROCESS [0134] "C:\Program Files\slimserver652v20070407\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\flac.exe" -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 --endian big --sign signed --channels 2 --bps 16 --sa mple-rate 44100 - SW: 2007-04-07 12:00:19.103 2 0118 0124 THREAD [0128] 00373f98 SW: 2007-04-07 12:00:19.103 2007-04-07 12:00:19.1335 Pipeline reader connected SW: 2007-04-07 12:00:42.923 MoveDataThreadProc for step 2 about to write data. 2007-04-07 12:00:43.1139 Got a track starting event Code: SW: 2007-04-05 20:34:11.328 MoveDataThreadProc for step 2 started. SW: 2007-04-05 20:34:11.328 MoveDataThreadProc for step 2 about to call ReadFile. 2007-04-05 20:34:11.3319 songTime: rate:1 -songtime:0 -startStream:0 2007-04-05 20:34:11.3332 songTime: rate:1 -songtime:0 -startStream:0 SW: 2007-04-05 20:34:11.328 Running as follows SW: 2007-04-05 20:34:11.328 # =input== =output= ==type== etc SW: 2007-04-05 20:34:11.343 0 0003 003c PROCESS [0094] "C:\Program Files\SlimServer65v20070405\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\mov123.exe" "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My Music\Sample Music\emerge.m4a" SW: 2007-04-05 20:34:11.343 1 0038 0044 PROCESS [0080] "C:\Program Files\SlimServer65v20070405\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\flac.exe" -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 --endian big --sign signed --channels 2 --bps 16 --sample-rate 44100 - 2007-04-05 20:34:11.3513 songTime: rate:1 -songtime:0 -startStream:0 SW: 2007-04-05 20:34:11.343 2 0040 0070 THREAD [007c] 00395730 2007-04-05 20:34:11.3539 songTime: rate:1 -songtime:0 -startStream:0 SW: 2007-04-05 20:34:11.343 2007-04-05 20:34:11.6376 Pipeline reader connected 2007-04-05 20:34:11.7338 would have blocked, will try again later 2007-04-05 20:34:11.7926 would have blocked, will try again later 2007-04-05 20:34:11.8454 would have blocked, will try again later 2007-04-05 20:34:11.8982 would have blocked, will try again later 2007-04-05 20:34:11.9510 would have blocked, will try again later 2007-04-05 20:34:12.0037 would have blocked, will try again later 2007-04-05 20:34:12.0564 would have blocked, will try again later 2007-04-05 20:34:12.1092 would have blocked, will try again later 2007-04-05 20:34:12.2470 would have blocked, will try again later 2007-04-05 20:34:12.2997 would have blocked, will try again later 2007-04-05 20:34:12.3296 songTime: rate:1 -songtime:0 -startStream:0 2007-04-05 20:34:12.3308 songTime: ra
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
BPA, to answer your questions, no I did not delete the time stamps from the log. For this go around, I did a clean install of 6.5.2 v 2007-04-07, after verifying that there weren't any slimserver.db or slimserversql.db or slimserver.pref files that hadn't been deleted. I followed your instructions exactly, and I'm still having the same basic problem: an m4a file plays completely, but it doesn't start playing for 10 or more seconds after pressing play, while an mp3 plays immediately. I'm attaching the log file. Thanks again so much for your assistance. I see you're in Ireland? If I'm ever there, I'll buy you a beer! +---+ |Filename: SlimSever m4a Vista Debug.zip| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2666| +---+ -- Matt Shelton Matt Shelton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
BPA, to answer your questions, no I did not delete the time stamps from the log. For this go around, I did a clean install of 6.5.2 v 2007-04-07, after verifying that there weren't any slimserver.db or slimserversql.db or slimserver.pref files that hadn't been deleted. I followed your instructions exactly, and I'm still having the same basic problem: an m4a file plays completely, but it doesn't start playing for 10 or more seconds after pressing play, while an mp3 plays immediately. I'm attaching the log file. Thanks again so much for your assistance. I see you're in Ireland? If I'm ever there, I'll buy you a beer! +---+ |Filename: SlimServer m4a Vista debug.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2665| +---+ -- Matt Shelton Matt Shelton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
Thanks BPA. I'll take a look at this this weekend and let you know how it works out! -- Matt Shelton Matt Shelton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
Below are debug verison but before using them I have comments about the log. There are no timestamps in the log you attached - did you remove them ? If not the last time I saw this happen the installation was corrupt. When you installed different version, did you delete all traces of previous installation including prefs file and database ? To use debug versions. You can download special builds of a 6.5.2 slim.exe and socketwrapper. http://homepage.eircom.net/~altondsl/slim/socketwrapper013.zip http://homepage.eircom.net/~altondsl/slim/slim652debug.zip 1. Do a clean install of latest slimser 6.5.2 - ideally into a new directory name (e.g. slimserver652v20070405) 2. Startup and build database 3. Test that m4a playing still has the problem 4. Stop slimserver and stop slimtray 5. Replace slim.exe and socketwrapper.exe by the debug version. 6. open a cmd window - change layout to 250 wide by 1000 long. 7. cd to slimserver server directory 8. run slim.exe 9. from web interface - open debug window, enable d_source 10. make sure repeat is Off. 11. play one m4a track. 12. After it plays or 2 mins if it doesn't - stop slim.exe, copy cmd window log to a file and post. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
I'm working on getting a build of 6.5.2 slim.exe which will open a debug window on socketwrapper. I also have an update to socketwrapper, no functionality change but has more messages. They won't be ready for a few hours. I'll look at the log file first in case I don't have to make the special version of slim.exe -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
Thanks BPA. Re testing via 6.5.2 vs. 6.5.1 or 6.5.0: at least my m4a's will play using 6.5.0 or 6.5.1 - they won't play at all with 6.5.2. I have 6.5.0 installed right now. Im attaching a zip file of the debug report using d_source, tested on 6.5.0. +---+ |Filename: 6.5.0 m4a.zip| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2651| +---+ -- Matt Shelton Matt Shelton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
That's a brave thing putting an e-mail address on a forum - you could have PM'ed me. I'll mail you my address. Alternatively you can attached log files zipped - log files compress very well. A couple of points - the 15 secs delay before playing and now nothing - that is definitely a different problem and I wonder whether a timeout has started to interfere. Regarding 6.3.1 - There is a faint possibility that it was built using an ActiveState build which was not fully Vista ready. So the moment I think all future test should be with 6.5.2 as that is using very latest ActiveState build. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
Thanks BPA. The log that I posted was from 6.5.2. I experienced the identical issue - m4a's take 15 seconds to start playing after pressing play while mp3's start playing instantaneoulsy - under 6.3.1, 6.5.0 and 6.5.1 (historically, prior to upgrading to Vista, I had been using 6.3.1, as I had issues the first time I installed 6.5.0 with XP, so I simply reverted back to what had been working). When I changed just yesterday from 6.5.1 to 6.5.2 to see if that would solve the issue, instead of taking 15 seconds to start playing, the m4a's simply didn't play at all. I've also just tested 6.5.0 without McAfee installed - same problem. Could I perhaps e-mail you text files of the debug reports when I try to play the same file under 6.3.1, 6.5.0, 6.5.1 and 6.5.2? Maybe that could shed some light on the issue. If you're okay with that, send me an e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks. -- Matt Shelton Matt Shelton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
That socketwrapper is effectively the latest that overcame problem in XP with security s/w. A number of Vista users have found that it seems to fix a similar problem with Vista. If it is a problem related to McAfee - disabling is not enough to undo its effects - you have to uninstall it. There is a catch-22 situation - SS 6.5.1 is the first version that uses socketwrapper for transcoding and socketwrapper generates debug messages for it's console window. However when socketwrapper is launched by 6.5.1 the console window is disabled so the debug info can't be seen. What I find strange is that 6.3.1 didn't work - it doesn't use socketwrapper so there may be a different problem. Was the debug log from 6.3.1 or 6.5.1/6.5.2 ? if the 6.5.1/6.5.2 can you repeat with d_source enabled and show more earlier messages as some seem to be missing. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
Thanks BPA. I'm using the socketwrapper that I found here: http://homepage.eircom.net/~altondsl/slim/socketwrapper_0.12_20060220.zip I use McAfee's firewall/antivirus, and I've given socketwrapper.exe "full access" in McAfee's Program Permissions (is there perhaps a related port I need to open up?). I also ran SS with McAfee turned off, and I had the same problem. Is there another version of socketwrapper I should try? -- Matt Shelton Matt Shelton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
The error message below is typical of the socketwrapper problem. 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0254 readlen undef: (Unknown error)10054 What socketwrapper are you using - I know you have tried a number but for this debug log the version is important ? Did you tell you security s/w (e.g. anti Virus, anti spyware, anti IM , firewall) that socketwrapper is a trusted app and allowed to network as it pleases and eachtime you changed socketwrapper you re-entered the info into the security s/w ? -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Debugging help re Vista m4a issue, please
Hi there. Ever since doing a clean install from XP SP2 to 32-bit Vista a few weeks ago, I'm having major problems playing m4a files (95% of my library), but no problems playing mp3 files. The m4a files either never play or take 10 to 15 seconds to start playing after starting. On XP, I never had even the slightest problem ever with Slimserver. I'm having the identical problems now, be it SS 6.3.1, 6.5.1 or 6.5.2. I've also installed the lastest socketwrapper per some threads I've seen here. I've even tried to run all SS-related exe files in "XP Compatability mode", but no luck. I've also completely uninstalled and reinstalled iTunes and Quicktime, and I've completely rescanned my library - all to no avail. I'm pasting in info re my debugging efforts: one for a mp3 file that played successfully and one for a m4a file that did not play. Unfortunately, I'm not sure which debug codes will show the best information, but I've given it a good shot. I would greatly appreciate it if someone could look at the debugging info to see if you can figure out the issue! Thanks. Unsuccesful Playback of m4a song ned --channels 2 --bps 16 --sample-rate 44100 - |" 2007-04-04 07:37:15.6605 openSong: Streaming with format: flc 2007-04-04 07:37:15.7006 00:04:20:06:25:0e New play mode: play 2007-04-04 07:37:15.7079 _checkValidity: Checking to see if file:///F:/iTunes/iTunes%20Music/Moby/18/01%20We%20Are%20All%20Made%20Of%20Stars.m4a has changed. 2007-04-04 07:37:15.7081 _hasChanged: Checking for [F:\iTunes\iTunes Music\Moby\18\01 We Are All Made Of Stars.m4a] - size & timestamp. 2007-04-04 07:37:15.7103 00:04:20:06:25:0e: Current playmode: play 2007-04-04 07:37:15.8604 Pipeline reader connected 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0254 readlen undef: (Unknown error)10054 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0255 end of file or error on socket, opening next song, (song pos: 0(tell says: . 0), totalbytes: 0) 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0256 Didn't stream any bytes for this song, so just mark it as played 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0257 opening next song... 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0273 the next song is number 0, was 0 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0280 undermax = 1, type = mov, squeezebox2 = 00:04:20:06:25:0e 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0282 checking formats for: mov-wma-squeezebox2-00:04:20:06:25:0e 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0283 checking formats for: mov-wma-*-00:04:20:06:25:0e 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0284 checking formats for: mov-wma-squeezebox2-* 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0285 checking formats for: mov-wma-*-* 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0286 checking formats for: mov-ogg-squeezebox2-00:04:20:06:25:0e 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0287 checking formats for: mov-ogg-*-00:04:20:06:25:0e 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0287 checking formats for: mov-ogg-squeezebox2-* 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0288 checking formats for: mov-ogg-*-* 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0289 checking formats for: mov-flc-squeezebox2-00:04:20:06:25:0e 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0290 checking formats for: mov-flc-*-00:04:20:06:25:0e 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0291 checking formats for: mov-flc-squeezebox2-* 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0292 checking formats for: mov-flc-*-* 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0293 Checking to see if mov-flc-*-* is enabled 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0293enabled 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0294 Found command: [mov123] $FILE$ | [flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 --endian big --sign signed --channels 2 --bps 16 --sample-rate 44100 - 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0296 Matched Format: flc Type: mov Command: [mov123] $FILE$ | [flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 --endian big --sign signed --channels 2 --bps 16 --sample-rate 44100 - 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0297 playing out before starting next song. (old format: flc, new: flc) 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0298 00:04:20:06:25:0e: Switching to mode playout-play from play 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0301 00:04:20:06:25:0e New play mode: playout-play 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0310 00:04:20:06:25:0e: Current playmode: playout-play 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0311 No pending chunks - we're dropping the streaming connection 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0317 00:04:20:06:25:0e: Can't opennext, returning no chunk. 2007-04-04 07:37:16.0352 00:04:20:06:25:0e: Decoder underrun while this mode: playout-play Successful Playback of mp3 song file:///F:/iTunes/iTunes%20Music/dZihan%20&%20Kamien/Freaks%20and%20Icons/10%20Ocean%20Air.mp3 has changed. 2007-04-04 07:28:42.7598 Got /F:/iTunes/iTunes%20Music/dZihan%20&%20Kamien/Freaks%20and%20Icons/10%20Ocean%20Air.mp3 from file url file:///F:/iTunes/iTunes%20Music/dZihan%20&%20Kamien/Freaks%20and%20Icons/10%20Ocean%20Air.mp3 2007-04-04 07:28:42.7611 extracted: F:\iTunes\iTunes Music\dZihan & Kamien\Freaks and Icons\10 Ocean Air.mp3 from file:///F:/iTunes/iTunes%20Music/dZihan%20&%20Kamien/Freaks%20and%20Icons/10%20Ocean%20Air.mp3 2007-04-04 07:28:42.7613 _hasChanged: Checking for [F:\iTunes\iTunes Music\dZihan & Kamien\Freaks and Icons\10 Ocean Air.mp3] - size & timestamp. 2007-04-04 07:28:42.7639 _checkValidity: Re-reading tags from file:///F:/iTunes/iTunes%20Music/dZihan%20&%20Kamien/Freaks%20and%20Icons/10%20Ocean%20Air.mp3 as it has changed. 200
