Re: [slim] Do people still buy digital music? New business idea; would love feedback
This reminds me, in some aspects anyway, of Noise Trade (www.noisetrade.com). You sign up for a weekly email and you get access to full albums or in some cases, compilations of artists. I believe when I signed up I told them what genres I was interested in. It is a pay-what-you-want model. I find it good for discovery since the emails do a thorough job of categorizing the music by stating - "For fans of:" follwed by a list of band names or record label names. It's only mp3 at this point but I've discovered a few bands through them. Location 1: ReadyNAS Ultra 2 4TB > LMS 7.8.0 > 1 Touch, 1 Duet Controller: Nexus 7 >Orange Squeeze Music: Ripping (FLAC) dbpoweramp, Tagging: mp3tag bomboloni's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57289 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102931 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Do people still buy digital music? New business idea; would love feedback
Love the idea of liner notes! I plan on providing some information with the downloads, just haven't worked that part out yet. I hear you on "owning" the actual media. I am still old school like that as well to a certain degree, although I am starting to convert. Thanks for the feedback. I really appreciate it. Stay tuned for more updates! matt w3wilkes wrote: > This does sound a little like the old "Columbia Record Club" my brothers > joined back in the 70's. I did 3 different Time Life series. Great Men > of Music series on vinyl back in the 70's. Each month I'd get a > different composer on 4 LP's in a box with a booklet on the artist and > the music, this was a great intro to classical for me. Then later in the > 80's I did a couple of series on CD that ended up giving me a span from > the mid 50's through the end of the 60's. This gave me all the great > 60's singles, but was missing some of the big names like the Rolling > Stones and The Beatles (no big deal since I have all their stuff > anyway), but I think it covered about 85% of all the Rock radio hits > (the recordings are great) and replaced all my 45's! > > This does sound interesting since I've done things like this in the > past, but I do prefer to get the actual media rather than downloads. > There's a lot to be said for liner notes and such! emmbeegee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34339 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102931 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Do people still buy digital music? New business idea; would love feedback
This does sound a little like the old "Columbia Record Club" my brothers joined back in the 70's. I did 3 different Time Life series. Great Men of Music series on vinyl back in the 70's. Each month I'd get a different composer on 4 LP's in a box with a booklet on the artist and the music, this was a great intro to classical for me. Then later in the 80's I did a couple of series on CD that ended up giving me a span from the mid 50's through the end of the 60's. This gave me all the great 60's singles, but was missing some of the big names like the Rolling Stones and The Beatles (no big deal since I have all their stuff anyway), but I think it covered about 85% of all the Rock radio hits (the recordings are great) and replaced all my 45's! This does sound interesting since I've done things like this in the past, but I do prefer to get the actual media rather than downloads. There's a lot to be said for liner notes and such! 2 Duets - 1 for upstairs and 1 for downstairs Rock Solid with LMS 7.8.0 and WHS 2011 w3wilkes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22973 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102931 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Do people still buy digital music? New business idea; would love feedback
My initial plan is to have a BoxSett ever 4-5 weeks. I figure people will buy when it looks interesting to them and when they have had the chance to digest what they already received. Thanks again! Matt Mnyb wrote: > Yes to many subscriptions then you get flooded with music options again > . > > Looking forward to see what irregular offerings this initiative will > provide . > > Any idea on how often a boxsett will apear , but on the other hand a > user don't have to buy all the sets . > Preview samples would be an idea (30 s of each song or like boomkat does > it an anyiyng beep every 30 seconds , but the full song as preview ) > > Why I quit b&w music club , never had the time to digest all the music > they provided me with , even if never downloaded most of thier classical > offerings , but still to many albums I rarely listen to . emmbeegee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34339 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102931 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Do people still buy digital music? New business idea; would love feedback
Yes to many subscriptions then you get flooded with music options again . Looking forward to see what irregular offerings this initiative will provide . Any idea on how often a boxsett will apear , but on the other hand a user don't have to buy all the sets . Preview samples would be an idea (30 s of each song or like boomkat does it an anyiyng beep every 30 seconds , but the full song as preview ) Why I quit b&w music club , never had the time to digest all the music they provided me with , even if never downloaded most of thier classical offerings , but still to many albums I rarely listen to . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102931 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Do people still buy digital music? New business idea; would love feedback
Thanks again Mnyb! Love your feedback. I hope that the differentiating factors of BoxSett will be: 1. Any format of music (FLAC being an option for those who want it) 2. Great albums curated by awesome labels 3. New audience (for artists and labels) 4. New artists without feeling overwhelmed by selection (for listeners) 5. Great price 6. Non-profit element Its not for everyone, but I hope that it is for enough people. Eventually, I would like to have a subscription option, but I think people are a bit tired of those for the moment. Thanks again! Matt Mnyb wrote: > I was a member of B&W music club for a couple of years . A vaguely > similar idea ( with some obvius differences maybe a case study for you ) > . > > I also gets a newsletter called 14 tracks , thier blunder is not to > offer Flac files . Some 14 track offerings are really interesting but > only aviable as MP3 . > > I would not pay for lossy compressed files ( broken product IMO ). emmbeegee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34339 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102931 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Do people still buy digital music? New business idea; would love feedback
I was a member of B&W music club for a couple of years . A vaguely similar idea ( with some obvius differences maybe a case study for you ) . I also gets a newsletter called 14 tracks , thier blunder is not to offer Flac files . Some 14 track offerings are really interesting but only aviable as MP3 . I would not pay for lossy compressed files ( broken product IMO ). Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102931 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Do people still buy digital music? New business idea; would love feedback
You are right! You do have to start somewhere. And where better than these forums full of good innovative thinkers and people willing to try out something new! toby10 wrote: > That is how I took the initial post, yes. Just gauging interest in the > idea and asking for help (volunteers) to help manage/run it. > Their Facebook page was created just 45 days ago and has two "likes". > Have to start somewhere. :) emmbeegee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34339 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102931 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Do people still buy digital music? New business idea; would love feedback
Yep, that is exactly right. I talked to one label already and they seemed to really understand this, so I am encouraged by that. Mnyb wrote: > That would be great if you manage to do that . > > Your angle at the record company would be enticing new customers that > normally would not be buying these records . creating future customers > for these bands ? emmbeegee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34339 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102931 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Do people still buy digital music? New business idea; would love feedback
emmbeegee wrote: > I really want full albums rather than samplers. Samplers are know to be > free. I want full albums at an almost "free" price. That would be great if you manage to do that . Your angle at the record company would be enticing new customers that normally would not be buying these records . creating future customers for these bands ? Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102931 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Do people still buy digital music? New business idea; would love feedback
I really want full albums rather than samplers. Samplers are know to be free. I want full albums at an almost "free" price. Mnyb wrote: > Yes you supply your email and when the first boxsett is prepared you > Will probably be given some download options. > I did sign up . > > Now let's see if anything comes out of it :) > > It could work , some labels still do stuff like sampler discs , bundle a > bunch of those and you have a boxsett . emmbeegee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34339 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102931 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Do people still buy digital music? New business idea; would love feedback
Yes you supply your email and when the first boxsett is prepared you Will probably be given some download options. I did sign up . Now let's see if anything comes out of it :) It could work , some labels still do stuff like sampler discs , bundle a bunch of those and you have a boxsett . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102931 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Do people still buy digital music? New business idea; would love feedback
Dogberry2 wrote: > Is it just a plan, at this point, but not yet up-and-running? That is how I took the initial post, yes. Just gauging interest in the idea and asking for help (volunteers) to help manage/run it. Their Facebook page was created just 45 days ago and has two "likes". Have to start somewhere. :) toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102931 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Do people still buy digital music? New business idea; would love feedback
I looked through (I think) the whole site, and didn't see any lists of bands/albums/tracks or any way to purchase/pay for anything. Is it just a plan, at this point, but not yet up-and-running? Dogberry2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102931 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Do people still buy digital music? New business idea; would love feedback
I think your sub-set of potential customers will be so small it will not be sustainable. One (specialized) music genre, attract those that want to "buy" (not subscribe), purchases would be infrequent. I also think you have no idea how much time and money it will take to market the service, attract and maintain relationships with numerous record labels, maintain licensing agreements, server issues and maintenance, etc I just use existing services, pick a genre, then select the "mix" menu item (which then randomly plays artists/bands within that genre). IMO, it's not that your idea is bad, rather that not all good ideas are a business. :) toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102931 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Do people still buy digital music? New business idea; would love feedback
Yes I still buy stuff , I've found Bandcamp to be a great resource . and on this forum there is a "what are you listening to rigth now" tread that is great . In general the music sub forum here is filled with great ideas . And I use spotify and play some distant but very musical friends playlists , also great . I also use the smartmix plugin to LMS kick of something I like and watch it pick similar stuff from spotify . Then I have the " what was that tune " plugin enabled so I can always go back and see what i listened to from any source . You know the feeling I heard a great song 15 minutes ago what was that . You can always subscribe to newsletters from chosen record labels . Boxsett , is this specialised in "indie" seems like anything that's not pop or rock is indie or alternative ? I will give it a try, is it up and running is there any set to be had yet ? I can't see any example boxsett yet ? Having preview directly on the site like bandcamp or boomkat would be a nice touch . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102931 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Do people still buy digital music? New business idea; would love feedback
Hello Squeezebox community! I have been a huge supporter and user of Squeezebox for 6 or 7 years now. Although I never post anything, I have been to the forums many times to get help. It is truly a great community and I thought it would be a great place to get some feedback on a business idea I am working on. As a middle-aged person with kids, I have found it difficult to keep up to date with what is going on in the music world. Especially with things like Spotify that give you every single song you would ever want on demand, I feel lost in a world of way too much choice. In order to combat this feeling, I generally look to experts to help me find music that will keep me up to date, but even that doesn't always work so well. Enter BoxSett (www.boxsett.com) Get 8-10 albums curated by a record label (after all, aren't they the natural curators out there) and offer them to listeners at a Pay What You Want price (similar to Humble Bundle) These albums would then be available for download in any format you would like for as long as you want them My hope is that this will provide listeners with a few benefits: -An in at the record label who has hand-picked an amazing set of music -Unbeatable price -No more "overwhelmed" feeling -New relationships with artists -Knowing where their money is going -DRM free, any format music (FLAC, MP3, AAIS, WAV, etc) -Simplicity What do you think? Is this something you would try? If yes, great! Want to help? If no, bummer, but why? Thanks! --Matt emmbeegee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34339 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102931 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss