Re: [slim] How would you like to select which music to play ?
I'd like to be able, when I hear a certain track, to be able to either tag it or add it to an arbitrary other playlist, so if I think ooh, that would be good to play at our party or I must play this to Bob I can find it again ten days later when I suddenly think what was that track I wanted to play to Bob? -- mecouc mecouc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=227 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How would you like to select which music to play ?
Sort of what I was driving at too. -Chris On 3/2/07, mecouc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to be able, when I hear a certain track, to be able to either tag it or add it to an arbitrary other playlist, so if I think ooh, that would be good to play at our party or I must play this to Bob I can find it again ten days later when I suddenly think what was that track I wanted to play to Bob? -- mecouc mecouc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=227 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How would you like to select which music to play ?
mecouc;184989 Wrote: I'd like to be able, when I hear a certain track, to be able to either tag it or add it to an arbitrary other playlist, so if I think ooh, that would be good to play at our party or I must play this to Bob I can find it again ten days later when I suddenly think what was that track I wanted to play to Bob? You could use the zapped playlist for this functionality. It's really just a good way to kind of informally bookmark tracks--it needn't be used for zapping. -- azinck3 azinck3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3967 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How would you like to select which music to play ?
1. How do you select which music to play today ? (Browse, Search, Random, Smart playlists, other?) I browse by a series of tags. Most commonly (for classical music), Genre, Composer, Album (Work name) and then Artist (performer.) Sometimes I have to finally select a particular version (mono, stereo, rematering version). Sometimes by Genre, Composer, Artist, Work Name. Sometimes by Genre, Sub-genre, Composer, Work Name, Artist. For other kinds of music, I use simpler orders of tgs. However, for old broadway standards, I start with Composer then Artist and then Song name. Or Song then artist. That's what I do in J. River Media Center 12. The browse panes (lists) for all these tags are on the PC screen so I select tag values in the order I want. I'd like to do the same thing in a PC interface to Slimserver. On the SB display, I want to select one tag value and then a value for another tag. 2. How would you like to select which music to play in the future ? In addition to the above, I'd sometimes like for SS to pick at random, playing all tracks of a single performance of a single work. No single tag is sufficient to specify all tracks of a single performance. I'd like to tag my music files with whatever tags I want and then use those tags to select music files to be played. - Do you like to be in control your self where you manually select exactly which song to play and in which order to play them ? Most of the time. - If you like to be in control yourself do you do this by creating a number of static playlists that you use later or do you like to browse/search for the exact artist/song every time ? I browse every time. - Do only like to use browsing functions or only search functions or both ? On MC 12, 95% browse, 5% search. - Do you base the selection on what to play next on the currently playing song/artist ? Mostly not. - Do you want the system to automatically select music for you ? Sometimes. If it does it right. - If you want the system to select music for you, which type of logic should it base the selection on ? Do you want it to be totally random or should it do some more clever things ? It should not be stupid like playing fragments of multi-track works unless I say that is OK. I should be able to specify Genre, sub-genre, Composer and such. I should able to specify a smart playlist without writing code. - Do you want to system to automatically suggest music but still have the control to select exactly which of the suggestions to play ? What logic or information shall the suggestions be based on ? Not iterested. - Do you want the selection to be based on other peoples listening habits or just your own ? For example by using information from LastFM/Amazon.com and similar sites for the automatic selection ? Heavens, NO! I'm impressed with your work so far. I'm very disappointed that the developers of SlimServer have done nothing to make SS/SB itself usable for classical music in a year plus and according to the roadmap don't intend to in the next major release. Bill -- Listener Listener's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2508 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How would you like to select which music to play ?
My vote is for more clever/random. That is my fave way of playing music. I also have the spouse-approved filter, so any way to improve on this would be great. I would like my Random Songs, DynamicPlaylist (using CustomSkip filters) to exclude songs played in the last x hours/days/months regardless of how many times I stop, clear and restart the random mix. I do listen to music other ways, i.e. Browse, mostly for new music, and then switch back to DynamicPlaylists. The result is that sometimes, I hear the same track over and over, when I should be able to have no repeats for at least a week. How about more pre-built SQLPlaylists. I have been told that this is the plugin to use to have more control, however, I've not figured it out yet completely and I know nothing about SQL. I get good results from CustomSkip/DynamicPlayist, though I still want to take it further. I like the idea of MusicIP, but I could never get it to work. I think if it worked, I'd use it a lot. So: 1. Clever/Random 2. Browse/Add Album or Song/Play (mostly for new music) Todd -- caldvd caldvd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7302 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How would you like to select which music to play ?
The Playlist Manager is close, but it only works with the SlimServer Web interface (as far as I can tell), so it cannot be used with just the remote control and a Squeezebox. That's why I wanted to use numbered playlists. I'm gonna play with it, though . . . -- orrinc orrinc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1615 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How would you like to select which music to play ?
orrinc;184802 Wrote: The Playlist Manager is close, but it only works with the SlimServer Web interface (as far as I can tell), so it cannot be used with just the remote control and a Squeezebox. That's why I wanted to use numbered playlists. I'm gonna play with it, though . . . Nope, it works from the remote. In fact, I don't think it has a web interface component at all. -- azinck3 azinck3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3967 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How would you like to select which music to play ?
We would like to see flickr / del.icio.us style tags for music. One can pretty much accomplish this with the custom browse plugin, but the ability to easily input the data in the first place is missing. I would like an extension so I could say tag a song/ablum with an arbitrary tag (fun, happy, sad, funky, purple) and immediately have that be something I could key on in custom browse and build playlists with. We would want to be able to make up new tags on a whim upon entering them. This should be able to be done from a drill down type manor, as well as an on the fly addition to the currently playing song/album. I am somewhat mixed if I think this data should be a DB only function, or if it should mod the tags. I would be happy if it were DB only, aside from the fact that having to do a wipe/rebuild is a pretty common occurrence when you upgrade. Thanks! I have found your tools useful. -Chris ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How would you like to select which music to play ?
CardinalFang;175657 Wrote: You could do something similar using a web tablet and an interface a bit like the iTunes 3D cover art browsing modes. You can spot albums by art far faster when scanning and it also really does prompt listening to old albums far more than reading a list. I much prefer to pick music this way and I wish you could do it in Slim. I also find it easier to browse music by cover art -- it more closely matches what I do with my real collection. I don't always know exactly what artist or album I want to listen to, just a general idea of genre/type. (Also, I have a terrible time remembering names -- so searching, or even browsing line-by-line doesn't work well for me.) So almost from the start I knew that the solution for me was going to require a handheld device with a screen for controling the slimbox, and I just got a Nokia770. Fortunately we can already browse, by album or genre, showing cover art, so it's sort of like scanning your racks of cds. Erlands custom browse and custom scan plug-ins make this browsing much, much better, by being able to narrow the range of albums to look at. For me, that's like choosing which shelf of my cd collection to look at. When paging thru long lists of album art on the Nokia, it's critical to be able to narrow the items you have to look at. Unfortunately, custom browse isn't designed for the Nokia skin, so for now I have to squint at Fishbone. Presumably someday slim will encorporate more flexible browsing such as custom browse into slimserver directly. -- wnshall wnshall's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5886 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How would you like to select which music to play ?
eindgebruiker;183925 Wrote: What I don't like is going through a lot of effort before listening to the music I feel like listening to. What I'm thinking of is this: Start with a random song mix. Then, whenever I hear a song I really like, a push of a button would insert the album containing that song in the playlist, just after that song. When Slimserver is done playing the whole album it would continue with the random song mix. I'd love to be able to go one step further- I'm still looking for a way to do this: I want to create up to 10 playlists, named 0 to 9, each for a different purpose (dance, relax, morning, etc.). Then I'd like to listen to a Random Mix, and when I hear a song I'd like in a playlist, hit ADD followed by 0 through 9 to add the track to that specific playlist (keeping the Random Mix playing). That way I can create different Playlists any time without having to remember tracks at the PC! I know there's already a plug-in to play Playlists by number, but so far no way to create this on the fly! (BTW- I'd love to be able to do this on my iPod as well; does anyone know a software hack to enable it?) Thanks! -- orrinc orrinc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1615 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How would you like to select which music to play ?
orrinc;184420 Wrote: eindgebruiker;183925 Wrote: I want to create up to 10 playlists, named 0 to 9, each for a different purpose (dance, relax, morning, etc.). Then I'd like to listen to a Random Mix, and when I hear a song I'd like in a playlist, hit ADD followed by 0 through 9 to add the track to that specific playlist (keeping the Random Mix playing). That way I can create different Playlists any time without having to remember tracks at the PC! You should look into the Playlist Manager plugin: http://www.hergest.demon.co.uk/Music/slim/PlaylistManPlugin.htm I haven't used it myself but it sounds like it will do pretty much exactly what you want. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and RandomPlayList plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How would you like to select which music to play ?
What I don't like is going through a lot of effort before listening to the music I feel like listening to. What I do like is Slimserver figuring this out for me. Random mix would be good, but perhaps with a bit more control. What I'm thinking of is this: Start with a random song mix. Then, whenever I hear a song I really like, a push of a button would insert the album containing that song in the playlist, just after that song. When Slimserver is done playing the whole album it would continue with the random song mix. Of course you could quickly scan the random song list until you find a song you like. The trick is to easily switch (one button) to album play from that point. This would be a simulation of cliveb's scanning a wall rack full of CDs in post #15. -- eindgebruiker eindgebruiker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10427 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How would you like to select which music to play ?
eindgebruiker;183925 Wrote: What I'm thinking of is this: Start with a random song mix. Then, whenever I hear a song I really like, a push of a button would insert the album containing that song in the playlist, just after that song. When Slimserver is done playing the whole album it would continue with the random song mix. Of course you could quickly scan the random song list until you find a song you like. The trick is to easily switch (one button) to album play from that point.This is possible today, but it requires a few more clicks: 1. In Now Playing on currently played song hit right 2. Click down until you reach Album: xxx 3. Hold Add button down for a while, this will insert Album: xxx after the currently played track. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and RandomPlayList plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How would you like to select which music to play ?
At home I select by artist but at work I have a music player that can shuffle by album and that works really well. -- AndrueC AndrueC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6612 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How would you like to select which music to play ?
I have been building over the past few evenings a Java application to control my SB via CLI with the server to try out my assumption that a Java interface to SLimServer is practical and nicer to use. So far I can control my player and change track, look through the playlist and artists and jump around based on clicking on the playlist. I'm currently adding the ability to look up albums and artists to select music to add to the playlist, adding the ability to change player and set server (it's currently hardcoded) and then I'll smarten it up a bit. Even in its hacky, early state, it is far more responsive and nicer to use that the SlimServer interface, so I can definitely recommend this as a way to go. I'm not sure what I'll do with the code in the end - it is a hack, so I am slightly embarassed about the code, but but equally I'd be happy to pass it on when I get bored of hacking :-) Anyone know how to get album art through CLI? +---+ |Filename: screenshot.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2343| +---+ -- CardinalFang CardinalFang's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=962 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How would you like to select which music to play ?
I think everyone agrees that music is all about emotion. Music creates emotions and sometimes you want to strengthen your current emotion through music. In all kinds of theories about emotion, including the ancient chinese ones, there are 7 emotions: Sadness, Anger, Surprise, Contempt, Enjoyment, Disgust, Fear Why not think of a way to be able to select music on the (combination of the) rating of one or more base emotions? I could imagine a circle with all emotions on them and per emotion a rating from 0(no emotion)-3(high). Like in Excel, you could then create something like a radar-graph (spiderweb) which represents the emotion area. Also notice that a rating system always should have an even number of choices, so it makes it harder to go for the easy middle way.. When you want to select music, you just select the ratings for emotion the emotions you want to have your selection stay within. If you set the anger emotion to 0, no song will be played which will make you angry. If you set Enjoyment to 3, all songs with 3,2,1 ratings are in the filter, but songs with 3 will be played first, or last, depending you want to strengthen of diminish you mood. The lower the rate, the more relaxed you are, with the ultimate relaxedness: all zeros:no emotion, no heartbeat..;-) You could point out your current emotion(s) and desired emotion(s). The music mix will slowly bring yo there! Wouldn't that be magnificent?? I know it'll be a lot of work to mark all songs, and all marks are personal. Perhaps storing the emotion-ratings in different fields. On the squeezebox, rate the song by using the cursors to set the spot or area of all rated emotions. -- Eelcovb Eelcovb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid= View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How would you like to select which music to play ?
1. *How do you select which music to play today ?* (Browse, Search, Random, Smart playlists, other?) 1. by album (browse) 2. favorite (radio station) 3. Random Mix 4. MIP based on some song I like (browse to song - MIP) ... . using a pre-defined playlist - Do only like to use browsing functions or only search functions or both ? Almost browse only. Search only for questions like didn't we have that song (of which I don't know where it's published). I guess I know my collection too well. Will have to buy more music :-) -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] How would you like to select which music to play ?
Since most of my plugins are related to different ways of selecting which music to play I'm a bit interested to know a bit more about this to get some new ideas. 1. *How do you select which music to play today ?* (Browse, Search, Random, Smart playlists, other?) 2. *How would you like to select which music to play in the future ?* Some additional questions just to give you an idea about what type of things I am looking for comments on: - Do you like to be in control your self where you manually select exactly which song to play and in which order to play them ? - If you like to be in control yourself do you do this by creating a number of static playlists that you use later or do you like to browse/search for the exact artist/song every time ? - Do only like to use browsing functions or only search functions or both ? - Do you base the selection on what to play next on the currently playing song/artist ? - Do you want the system to automatically select music for you ? - If you want the system to select music for you, which type of logic should it base the selection on ? Do you want it to be totally random or should it do some more clever things ? - Do you want to system to automatically suggest music but still have the control to select exactly which of the suggestions to play ? What logic or information shall the suggestions be based on ? - Do you want the selection to be based on other peoples listening habits or just your own ? For example by using information from LastFM/Amazon.com and similar sites for the automatic selection ? As I said in the beginning I'm both interesting in how you select which music to play today and how you would like the selection to be done in the future. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and RandomPlayList plugins) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
