Re: [slim] Need help reading LMS server Log
shacky73 wrote: > Where do enable Touch logging? > > And I dont understand this: > (you may need to ssh into Touch to read log) This is going to get a little technical, also I don't have my Radio/Touch on hand so it's from memory. Touch and Radio are small Linux systems and the Squeezeplay is the player running on the Touch. The logging is generated by Squeezeplay and logged into a file within the Touch/radio system To access the log file you need to remotely login (i.e. over network) into Touch/Radio - this is known as "ssh'ing. The command line process on a Linux system is called a shell (i.e. sh) - so ssh is "*s*ecure *sh*ell access" The following assume Community build firmware in Touch/Radio. 1. Enable SSH login on the Radio, using the interface on the Radio: SETTINGS -> ADVANCED -> REMOTE LOGIN -> ENABLE SSH 2. Find the Radio's IP address. Either in SQUEEZEBOX SERVER -> SETTINGS -> INFORMATION or in the Radio user interface SETTINGS -> ADVANCED -> DIAGNOSTICS 3. To remote login you need to run an application such as "ssh" on Linux system. Alternative is PuTTY which is availabwel for other system such as Windows. Login with username root and password 1234. With ssh it will be something like "ssh root@" and then reply 1234 with PuTTY - you need to select "ssh" and the in the configuration dialogue. To enable logging in the Touch I think the menu is SETTINGS -> ADVANCED -> LOGGING Like LMS, there are many modules - I think an "audio" one woudl be place to start. Change setting to DEBUG. Now logging will go to a log file on the Touch called */var/log/messages*. To examine the file - from the command prompt in putty/ssh session use the command CAT /VAR/LOG/MESSAGES Look at result to see if an error message has been logged amongts all the "normal" messages. Usually when tracking a bug, after running a test , the messages file is copied to a host system to save and later analyse. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help reading LMS server Log
Where do enable Touch logging? And I dont understand this: (you may need to ssh into Touch to read log) shacky73's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help reading LMS server Log
Thanks! shacky73's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help reading LMS server Log
shacky73 wrote: > However, these songs in Apple Lossless have been in my library for > years. I didnt have the skipping issue till about a year ago after > moving. Perhaps an update to Touch firmware started it Lots of possibilities depending on time window * There have been changes in LMS handling of MPEG-4 * Transcoding functionality was altered & improved (e.g. the setting "prefer native format (decoding on player) whenever possible. was added ") * From early days, ALC native on Touch was known to have problems so "native" may not have been the default except when using Touch internal mini-LMS * Not sure if the same ALC decoder is used in Community build vs Logitech build. As the bug seems to be in Touch and not LMS. Enabling Touch logging for audio decode might show up a more specific error (you may need to ssh into Touch to read log) . If it does, I'd open a new thread as title on this thread is no longer rlevant. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help reading LMS server Log
However, these songs in Apple Lossless have been in my library for years. I didnt have the skipping issue till about a year ago after moving. Perhaps an update to Touch firmware started it shacky73's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help reading LMS server Log
Yes I remember that. What I was thinking is the Touch is only passing the data on to my DAC , but I guess it is simultaneously decoding and playing - Im just accessing the audio out. shacky73's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help reading LMS server Log
shacky73 wrote: > Thanks again to all that tried to help me with this issue. Seems > finally resolved. > > I do have hard tim getting my arms around why the native file handling > was a problem. I thought the LMS just streamed basic file data to my > Touch and Touch forwarded data to my DAC. > > Not an urgent need to know but Id be curious to better understand. I think bpa addressed that: bpa wrote: > Touch can play Apple Lossless (ALC) natively but some Apple Lossless > files (e.g. high compression rates) cause problems. > > To check if this is the problem, try disabling "native" playback for > Apple Lossless so that file is transcoded by LMS (WebUI > Settings/Advanced/FileTypes ) I think he's saying that the Touch firmware may be too old to play some recent Apple Lossless files that use higher compression than was common when the Touch was in production. Having LMS transcode is a workaround. I am no expert, so let's see if someone more knowledgeable corrects me. Usually running latest beta LMS nightly on Raspberry Pi OS with virtual players (Squeezelite and Airplay bridge). Occasionally using SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help reading LMS server Log
Thanks again to all that tried to help me with this issue. Seems finally resolved. I do have hard tim getting my arms around why the native file handling was a problem. I thought the LMS just streamed basic file data to my Touch and Touch forwarded data to my DAC. Not an urgent need to know but Id be curious to better understand. shacky73's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help reading LMS server Log
Still playing all 3 and other files that had been skipping without issues. shacky73's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help reading LMS server Log
Got it! Thanks so much!!! Ive been chasing this problem for months. If you found fix you get special kudos and a reward in heaven shacky73's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help reading LMS server Log
shacky73 wrote: > In Advanced/Server Settings I unchecked prefer native format (decoding > on player) whenever possible. > > Replayed file that stops and it still stops > > Were you suggesting something different? Not sure if unchecking that setting always stops "native" being used. Further down, under item Apple Lossless - there is a setting "Apple Lossless (I,F)" change the drop down box from "native" to "Disabled" and then don't forget to click "Apply". bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help reading LMS server Log
I rebooted everything. Song now plays. Fingers crossed as Ive been here before. Only time will tell. I ordered a co-ax hat for second RPi I have to use as player. When I can find it Ill try that next. Thanks for all your help!!! shacky73's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help reading LMS server Log
In Advanced/Server Settings I unchecked prefer native format (decoding on player) whenever possible. Replayed file that stops and it still stops Were you suggesting something different? shacky73's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help reading LMS server Log
shacky73 wrote: > SB Touch Touch can play Apple Lossless (ALC) natively but some Apple Lossless files (e.g. high compression rates) cause problems. To check if this is the problem, try disabling "native" playback for Apple Lossless so that file is transcoded by LMS (WebUI Settings/Advanced/FileTypes ) bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help reading LMS server Log
Does it happen with all of the .m4a files that you try? Does it happen with a non-m4a file? Do you have more than one player? Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help reading LMS server Log
Paul Webster wrote: > Does it happen with local files that are not of type .m4a ? > > Most all my files are m4a > > Is the player configured to sync? > > I dont know > > What type of player is it? SB Touch shacky73's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help reading LMS server Log
Does it happen with local files that are not of type .m4a ? Is the player configured to sync? What type of player is it? Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help reading LMS server Log
The 3 songs in order are: Pat Benatar Evening Fleetwood Mac Something Inside of Me Fleetwood Mac Isn't it Midnight shacky73's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help reading LMS server Log
Switched several to info. Replayed 3 songs that stop at 30 seconds: [22-10-26 18:43:34.9867] Slim::Player::Song::open (416) Transcoder: streamMode=I, streamformat=alc [22-10-26 18:43:34.9871] Slim::Player::Song::open (472) Opening stream (no direct streaming) using Slim::Player::Protocols::File [file:///mnt/LMSfiles/Music/Fleetwood%20Mac/Tango%20In%20The%20Night/10%20Isn%27t%20It%20Midnight.m4a] [22-10-26 18:43:34.9881] Slim::Player::Protocols::File::open (80) duration: [253.96] size: [31119151] endian [] offset: [0] for file:///mnt/LMSfiles/Music/Fleetwood%20Mac/Tango%20In%20The%20Night/10%20Isn%27t%20It%20Midnight.m4a [22-10-26 18:43:34.9884] Slim::Player::Protocols::File::open (97) Opening file /mnt/LMSfiles/Music/Fleetwood Mac/Tango In The Night/10 Isn't It Midnight.m4a [22-10-26 18:43:34.9896] Slim::Player::Protocols::File::open (189) Seeking in 0 into /mnt/LMSfiles/Music/Fleetwood Mac/Tango In The Night/10 Isn't It Midnight.m4a [22-10-26 18:43:34.9901] Slim::Player::Song::open (502) URL is a song (audio): file:///mnt/LMSfiles/Music/Fleetwood%20Mac/Tango%20In%20The%20Night/10%20Isn%27t%20It%20Midnight.m4a, type=alc [22-10-26 18:43:34.9914] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1282) 00:04:20:22:97:db: stream [22-10-26 18:43:34.9930] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1319) Song queue is now 2 [22-10-26 18:43:34.9934] Slim::Buttons::Playlist::jump (374) Jumping to song index: 2 [22-10-26 18:43:34.9938] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setPlayingState (2377) new playing state BUFFERING [22-10-26 18:43:34.9941] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingState (2386) new streaming state STREAMING [22-10-26 18:43:34.9944] Slim::Buttons::Playlist::jump (374) Jumping to song index: 2 [22-10-26 18:43:34.9986] Slim::Player::Playlist::modifyPlaylistCallback (1081) Checking if persistPlaylists is set.. [22-10-26 18:43:34.9989] Slim::Player::Playlist::modifyPlaylistCallback (1109) saveCurrentSong is: [1] [22-10-26 18:43:35.0012] Slim::Player::Playlist::modifyPlaylistCallback (1081) Checking if persistPlaylists is set.. [22-10-26 18:43:35.0016] Slim::Player::Playlist::modifyPlaylistCallback (1105) saveCurrentSong not set. returing. [22-10-26 18:43:35.0028] Slim::Player::Playlist::modifyPlaylistCallback (1081) Checking if persistPlaylists is set.. [22-10-26 18:43:35.0032] Slim::Player::Playlist::modifyPlaylistCallback (1109) saveCurrentSong is: [1] [22-10-26 18:43:35.0044] Slim::Player::Playlist::modifyPlaylistCallback (1081) Checking if persistPlaylists is set.. [22-10-26 18:43:35.0048] Slim::Player::Playlist::modifyPlaylistCallback (1109) saveCurrentSong is: [1] [22-10-26 18:43:35.0419] Slim::Player::Squeezebox2::directHeaders (478) Processing headers for direct streaming: HTTP/1.1 200 OK Server: Logitech Media Server (8.2.0 - 1627922070) Connection: close Content-Type: audio/x-m4a-lossless Set-Cookie: Squeezebox-albumView=; path=/ Set-Cookie: Squeezebox-expandPlayerControl=true; path=/ Set-Cookie: Squeezebox-expanded-MY_MUSIC=1; path=/ Set-Cookie: Squeezebox-expanded-FAVORITES=1; path=/ Set-Cookie: Squeezebox-expanded-PLUGINS=1; path=/ Set-Cookie: Squeezebox-expanded-PLUGIN_MY_APPS_MODULE_NAME=1; path=/ Set-Cookie: Squeezebox-expanded-RADIO=0; path=/ [22-10-26 18:43:36.4748] Slim::Player::StreamingController::playerTrackStarted (2200) 00:04:20:22:97:db [22-10-26 18:43:36.4755] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setPlayingState (2377) new playing state PLAYING [22-10-26 18:43:36.4764] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Playing (368) Song 2 has now started playing [22-10-26 18:43:36.4773] Slim::Buttons::Playlist::jump (374) Jumping to song index: 2 [22-10-26 18:43:36.4788] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Playing (397) Song queue is now 2 [22-10-26 18:43:36.4801] Slim::Player::Playlist::modifyPlaylistCallback (1081) Checking if persistPlaylists is set.. [22-10-26 18:43:36.4810] Slim::Player::Playlist::modifyPlaylistCallback (1105) saveCurrentSong not set. returing. [22-10-26 18:43:36.7854] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 (493) Matched: alc->alc via: - [22-10-26 18:44:08.2725] Slim::Player::StreamingController::playerOutputUnderrun (2239) 00:04:20:22:97:db: decoder: 3145727 / output: 0 [22-10-26 18:44:08.2732] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setPlayingState (2377) new playing state BUFFERING [22-10-26 18:44:08.2786] Slim::Player::Player::rebuffer (1045) Rebuffering: 3145727 / 612030 [22-10-26 18:44:08.4049] Slim::Player::Player::_buffering (1144) Buffering... 3145727 / 612030 [22-10-26 18:44:08.4055] Slim::Player::StreamingController::playerBufferReady (2278) 00:04:20:22:97:db [22-10-26 18:44:08.4061] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setPlayingState (2377) new playing state WAITING_TO_SYNC [22-10-26 18:44:08.4068] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setPlayingState (2377) new playing state PLAYING [22-10-26 18:44:08.4094] Slim::Player::Playlist::modifyPlaylistCallback (1081) Checking if persistPlaylists is set.. [22-10-26 18:44:08.4102]
Re: [slim] Need help reading LMS server Log
Paul Webster wrote: > Try increasing the log level > Settings/Advanced/Logging > then pick a few that start with "player" and increase the level and > repeat the problem. > No need to stop/restart LMS when changing the log level. As in DEBUG, Info, Warn? shacky73's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help reading LMS server Log
Try increasing the log level Settings/Advanced/Logging then pick a few that start with "player" and increase the level and repeat the problem. No need to stop/restart LMS when changing the log level. Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help reading LMS server Log
mherger wrote: > > I can't open the zip server file without purchasing WinZip. I tried > > extracting which had worked previously but only get one line of text. > > You can access the server.log from the web UI without downloading the > ..zip file. There's a link next to the download link. I get that same one line of text shacky73's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help reading LMS server Log
I can't open the zip server file without purchasing WinZip. I tried extracting which had worked previously but only get one line of text. You can access the server.log from the web UI without downloading the .zip file. There's a link next to the download link. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help reading LMS server Log
this is all I get [22-10-24 17:24:57.1123] main::init (390) Starting Logitech Media Server (v8.2.0, 1627922070, Tue Aug 3 11:43:18 CEST 2021) perl 5.032001 - arm-linux-gnueabihf-thread-multi-64int shacky73's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Need help reading LMS server Log
I can't open the zip server file without purchasing WinZip. I tried extracting which had worked previously but only get one line of text. I'm looking for why the last song played won't play for more than 32 seconds. I played it twice to hopefully generate an error log to help identify problem. This happens with multiple songs and once the song starts this crap it will do it every time I play it. Here is zip file: https://www.dropbox.com/t/5ABsXw4InRzUoXaj shacky73's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116979 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
bpa wrote: > I'm not backing the cable - I'm curious about possible Pi4 h/w issues. > I have aPi4 where the Wifi will drop after a few hours if screen > resolution is set too high - a bug which apparently has been fixed yet > still happens on my Pi4. We know you are not bacxking the cable bpa! There are undoubtedly some bugs in the Pi kernel but you can hardly expect the foundation to go investing $$$ in this sort of edge case to test a USB cable. Given the price point of a Pi and its stated raison d'etre its just not going to be on the list of expected use cases. WiFi - different matter altogether. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
d6jg wrote: > That is true but us Earthlings would just pull another £5 cable from our > box of cables and move on. Spending $350+ on a cable is IMO obscene. > Send it back, buy one for $5 and give the money saved to the local food > bank. I'm not backing the cable - I'm curious about possible Pi4 h/w issues. I have aPi4 where the Wifi will drop after a few hours if screen resolution is set too high - a bug which apparently has been fixed yet still happens on my Pi4. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
bpa wrote: > The "Maybe the cable is bad" seems to have appeared for other Pi4 users > with ordinary cables - so it might be an ordinary issue as well as a > Audiophile one. That is true but us Earthlings would just pull another £5 cable from our box of cables and move on. Spending $350+ on a cable is IMO obscene. Send it back, buy one for $5 and give the money saved to the local food bank. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
jeroen2 wrote: > I love the fact that you guys are even discussing this. :cool: But I > would think it's up to the person selling $500 USB cables to explain why > sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't Surely they must have a > much deeper understanding of the inner workings of USB than any of us > earthlings. The "Maybe the cable is bad" seems to have appeared for other Pi4 users with ordinary cables - so it might be an ordinary issue as well as a Audiophile one. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
chill wrote: > But it works on the Macbook. I wonder if different chipsets handle the > link negotiation differently. Maybe the Pi uses only a fixed data rate, > whereas the Macbook might do some sort of adaptive rate? Is that > possible? I love the fact that you guys are even discussing this. :cool: But I would think it's up to the person selling $500 USB cables to explain why sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't Surely they must have a much deeper understanding of the inner workings of USB than any of us earthlings. jeroen2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
There are a number of "Maybe the USB cable is bad?" posts on various Pi forums. A few of them seem to be fixed by either upgrading s/w (especially firmware) or downgrading from Buster. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
chill wrote: > But it works on the Macbook. I wonder if different chipsets handle the > link negotiation differently. Maybe the Pi uses only a fixed data rate, > whereas the Macbook might do some sort of adaptive rate? Is that > possible? Yes - the loose +5v wired seemed to be the obvious candidate for a source of problems. The dmesg log seems shows the problem to be initial connection of device. The vendor and device id of the device were not even obtained so the Pi could not even identify what sort of USB device has been attached. So problem is in early stages of connection. There are 4 wires. Two signal wire D+ and D- provide differential signalling. As I understand it, the signals at idle are pulled down by host but when a device connects to host, the device pulls one of them up with a 1.5kOhm resistance. Could there be some problem with this resistance value between Pi and cable ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
bpa wrote: > They route the +5v on the outside the signal cable - perhaps it is > broken ? But it works on the Macbook. I wonder if different chipsets handle the link negotiation differently. Maybe the Pi uses only a fixed data rate, whereas the Macbook might do some sort of adaptive rate? Is that possible? chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
Greg Erskine wrote: > How can a couple of connectors with a few wires between them not work? They route the +5v on the outside the signal cable - perhaps it is broken ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
Greg Erskine wrote: > How can a couple of connectors with a few wires between them not work?Maybe > the cable deemed the Raspberry Pi not worthy. [emoji3] Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
Greg Erskine wrote: > How can a couple of connectors with a few wires between them not work? Maybe the ultra-clean, perfectly-timed data bits are just too much for the Raspberry pi to cope with :) chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
How can a couple of connectors with a few wires between them not work? Greg Erskine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7403 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
scslite wrote: > ... Curious got back to me and their assessment is that their cable is > just incompatible with the RPi platform. Out of curiousity (no pun intended) I had a look at their website. These guys are, like lots of boutique audiophile companies, a bunch of charlatans. If Curious publicise that their cable doesn't work on a RPi, it might save some PCP users falling for their snake oil claims. Transporter -> ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
I just wanted to update this post and put a closure to it. Not the outcome that I was hoping for but alas Curious got back to me and their assessment is that their cable is just incompatible with the RPi platform. I would hope that they will investigate this and add as a disclosure on their FAQ page for future customers that may run into the same issue or perhaps they will improve upon next versions of their products if it makes business sense for them to do so. I want to thank the folks that provided their input into helping me try to resolve it. This is a great forum with equally great members! Cheers! scslite's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71427 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
Good luck with the Return/Exchange. I think Curious has a 30-day full satisfaction period so should be straightforward to send back... This is not the proper place to discuss, but since a window of opportunity opened for a full refund... If you are determined to utilise RPi/PcP, there are great optical HAT solutions. Are you open to using Glass Optical instead of pricey Curious USB cables? http://lifatec.com/toslink2.html If you like pricey cables, there is also the Audioquest Diamond optilink Glass Optical. If your determined for RPi/PcP USB, there may also be another solution. Just not sure of your preferences. I just know optical is reference for Chord DACs. Just ignore if you already have a set preference. Not sure how new you are to the Qutest. LiFePO4's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
and I think it could be one of the first things Curious suggests is done before agreeing to replace since it is in their FAQ and they might not have experience of pCP/TinyCore. Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
slartibartfast wrote: > If other cables work with your Pi then changing the OS isn't going to > help. I agree it doesn't seem logical but trying an different OS at least eliminates the possibility of some sort of weird chip initialisation or timing issue which is only apparent with the problem cable. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
scslite wrote: > Yes squeezlite works with the generic cable and another USB cable I have > which is a BBQ Full Rack similar design to the Curious with an isolated > power line. > > The logs do show something with the Curious is bad but what? I have not > tried another OS on the RPi but may try it as it's also one of the > suggested tips on the Curious FAQ. > > As for pins I carefully pulled them up on the RPi to ensure a snug fit > of the cable but made no difference. > > BTW, good suggestion. Will send the log files to Curious as well. > Also, how do I do this? "enable monitor udev actions/triggers with > udevadm"If other cables work with your Pi then changing the OS isn't going to help. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
scslite wrote: > "enable monitor udev actions/triggers with udevadm" command at shell prompt UDEVADM MONITOR Do a test by plugging and unplugging a "good" device to see messages appear, then try the problem device. If no messages then problem is at a lower level of USB interfacing which would what dmesg log indicates. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
chill wrote: > I don't think this has anything to do with Squeezelite. The Pi isn't > enabling the Qutest with this cable. Did Squeezelite work with the > generic cable? I would send Curious the two log file snippets that I > posted above. I would hope that they'll stand by their product and send > you a replacement. Yes squeezlite works with the generic cable and another USB cable I have which is a BBQ Full Rack similar design to the Curious with an isolated power line. The logs do show something with the Curious is bad but what? I have not tried another OS on the RPi but may try it as it's also one of the suggested tips on the Curious FAQ. As for pins I carefully pulled them up on the RPi to ensure a snug fit of the cable but made no difference. scslite's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71427 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
scslite wrote: > I'll try to test as suggested by LifePO4 and report back later. The > fact that the cable works perfectly when plugged into my MBA means > there's some signal that's not on the RPi USB that Squeezlite is not > recognizing the Qutest.. It is is not squeezelite but from log at level of pcp USB support. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
scslite wrote: > I'll try to test as suggested by LifePO4 and report back later. The > fact that the cable works perfectly when plugged into my MBA means > there's some signal that's not on the RPi USB that Squeezlite is not > recognizing the Qutest. > > Another thought is does the Qobuz plugin require Squeezlite or is it a > more native integration? I'm wondering if Qobuz will work if > Squeezelite is bypassed? > > Also have sent my issue to Curious just waiting to hear back. > > Thanks for all the suggestions. Not giving up yet. I don't think this has anything to do with Squeezelite. The Pi isn't enabling the Qutest with this cable. Did Squeezelite work with the generic cable? I would send Curious the two log file snippets that I posted above. I would hope that they'll stand by their product and send you a replacement. chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
I'll try to test as suggested by LifePO4 and report back later. The fact that the cable works perfectly when plugged into my MBA means there's some signal that's not on the RPi USB that Squeezlite is not recognizing the Qutest. Another thought is does the Qobuz plugin require Squeezlite or is it a more native integration? I'm wondering if Qobuz will work if Squeezelite is bypassed? Also have sent my issue to Curious just waiting to hear back. Thanks for all the suggestions. Not giving up yet. scslite's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71427 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
Man in a van wrote: > I know hot plugging can sometimes stir things up but at the OP's own > risk I wouldn't go as far as messing with hot pluggin but OP could try enable monitor udev actions/triggers with udevadm and see if anything show up. However from the log I think the issue is before udev gets into action. I don't know how OP checked the contacts especially if it is just a single pin not making contact. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
LiFePO4 wrote: > I have zero experience with pcp on the USB side. I only use optical > solutions, so just making a suggestion. I wasn't even aware there is a > Qutest USB setting. I thought USB Audio is the only option on the > dropdown box for USB DACs, so total noob here. > > My suggestion is try powering on the Qutest with your MBA. Turn on your > RPi. Unplug USB A from MBA and plug into RPi. > > I believe Chord DACs need the 5V VBUS (Thin orange cable on your > Curious) to initiate a handshake to activate the Qutest. Maybe after > activating, if it stays PWR ON, pcp will recognize? > > Maybe some setting not initiating the handshake? Just hope the Qutest > doesn't PWR OFF or de-activate when you pull out the USB cable. > > If it's recognized, you can troubleshoot the setting from there... > > GL > > EDIT: USB Audio setting the same issue? Have you tried another OS on > the RPI to narrow down? >From the online info > > *Device power supply:* 5v 2amp Micro USB so I don't think the Mac will meet that requirement, otherwise I agree, try it on a raspberry pi OS, simple Desktop, browser playback. I know hot plugging can sometimes stir things up but at the OP's own risk :) chill wrote: > From the generic cable: > > Code: > > > [1.131641] usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 2 using xhci_hcd\ > [1.314285] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=2109, idProduct=3431, bcdDevice= 4.21\ > [1.314293] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=1, SerialNumber=0\ > [1.314300] usb 1-1: Product: USB2.0 Hub\ > [1.315758] hub 1-1:1.0: USB hub found\ > [1.316011] hub 1-1:1.0: 4 ports detected\ > [1.641619] usb 1-1.4: new high-speed USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd\ > [1.772399] usb 1-1.4: New USB device found, idVendor=245f, idProduct=0815, bcdDevice= 1.97\ > [1.772406] usb 1-1.4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3\ > [1.772413] usb 1-1.4: Product: Qutest\ > [1.772420] usb 1-1.4: Manufacturer: Chord Electronics Ltd\ > [1.772426] usb 1-1.4: SerialNumber: 413-001\ > > > > From the Curious cable: > > Code: > > [1.141638] usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 2 using xhci_hcd\ > [1.324076] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=2109, idProduct=3431, bcdDevice= 4.21\ > [1.324084] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=1, SerialNumber=0\ > [1.324091] usb 1-1: Product: USB2.0 Hub\ > [1.330887] hub 1-1:1.0: USB hub found\ > [1.331135] hub 1-1:1.0: 4 ports detected\ > [2.462149] usb 1-1-port4: Cannot enable. *Maybe the USB cable is bad?*\ > > Says it all really, at least in this user context of pCP OS ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
scslite wrote: > Logs attached. Also tried to make sure pins have good contact. >From the generic cable: Code: [1.131641] usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 2 using xhci_hcd\ [1.314285] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=2109, idProduct=3431, bcdDevice= 4.21\ [1.314293] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=1, SerialNumber=0\ [1.314300] usb 1-1: Product: USB2.0 Hub\ [1.315758] hub 1-1:1.0: USB hub found\ [1.316011] hub 1-1:1.0: 4 ports detected\ [1.641619] usb 1-1.4: new high-speed USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd\ [1.772399] usb 1-1.4: New USB device found, idVendor=245f, idProduct=0815, bcdDevice= 1.97\ [1.772406] usb 1-1.4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3\ [1.772413] usb 1-1.4: Product: Qutest\ [1.772420] usb 1-1.4: Manufacturer: Chord Electronics Ltd\ [1.772426] usb 1-1.4: SerialNumber: 413-001\ >From the Curious cable: Code: [1.141638] usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 2 using xhci_hcd\ [1.324076] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=2109, idProduct=3431, bcdDevice= 4.21\ [1.324084] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=1, SerialNumber=0\ [1.324091] usb 1-1: Product: USB2.0 Hub\ [1.330887] hub 1-1:1.0: USB hub found\ [1.331135] hub 1-1:1.0: 4 ports detected\ [2.462149] usb 1-1-port4: Cannot enable. *Maybe the USB cable is bad?*\ chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
I have zero experience with pcp on the USB side. I only use optical solutions, so just making a suggestion. I wasn't even aware there is a Qutest USB setting. I thought USB Audio is the only option on the dropdown box for USB DACs, so total noob here. My suggestion is try powering on the Qutest with your Macbook. Turn on your RPi. Unplug USB A from Macbook and plug into RPi. I believe Chord DACs need the 5V VBUS (Thin orange cable on your Curious) to initiate a handshake to activate the Qutest. Maybe after activating, if it stays PWR ON, pcp will recognize? Maybe some setting not initiating the handshake? Just hope the Qutest doesn't PWR OFF when you pull out the USB cable. If it's recognized, you can troubleshoot the setting from there... GL EDIT: USB Audio setting the same issue? LiFePO4's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
Logs attached. Also tried to make sure pins have good contact. +---+ |Filename: CuriusUSBCableLogs.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=33506| +---+ scslite's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71427 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
I have a USB type A socket on a PC where some cables work and some don't - I think it is just a mechanical issue where tolerance are just out or have become worn or perhaps the "springiness" of the contacts has gone. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
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Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
scslite wrote: > Will see if I can figure out to log as well as suggested in my rather > rudimentary expertise on this at the moment. > > pCP Main Page > Diagnostics > Logs Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
Paul Webster wrote: > Also - other content of their FAQ makes me think that this should be in > the Audiophiles area. > Yes, looks like it. Maybe the Curious cable became conditioned to your Macbook already. jeroen2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
I'm using the USB 2.0 on the Pi and tried both of them but no dice. Ok i read the Curious site FAQ closely this time and will try to go over some of the tips there tomorrow even though some are rather vague in what to do. Will see if I can figure out to log as well as suggested in my rather rudimentary expertise on this at the moment. Appreciate any other suggestions. Both my other USB cables a Vovox Textura and a BBQ Full Rack work perfectly fine with the Pi. Just the Curious looks to be rather finicky but works with the MacBook. scslite's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71427 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
In my opinion all usb cables are the same, if they are complient with the respective standard Are you using the usb2 or usb 3 sockets on the pi I would suggest a couple of logs to start with, boot and dmesg One set with a certified usb cable (and hopefully working dac) One set with the Curious cable and non working dac Ask Mr Woodland about your problem good luck ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
I see their FAQ has something in it that suggests this is a known issue. Also - other content of their FAQ makes me think that this should be in the Audiophiles area. https://curiouscables.com/faq Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Need Help with a Curious USB A to B Cable with Squeezeite Settings
Hi all, New to the forum and wanted to see if anyone here has by chance encountered the same issue I'm having with a Curious USB cable. Set up is an RPi4B with latest Picoreplayer via the onboard USB output hooked up to a Chord Qutest DAC. I'm having problems when I plug in a Curious USB cable where under the Squeezlite settings the Qutest is not presenting itself as any of the control options. I only see options for "headphones". If I plug in the Curious cable from my MacBook Air to the DAC it works just fine so it appears the cable is working but not when plugged into the RPi4B. Using another USB or a generic USB cable from the RPi4B to the Qutest I'm able to see the Qutest as hardware options under the Squeezlite settings and can hear audio just fine only when I plug in the Curious is when the DAC is not being detected. Are there specific USB cables that may require different settings than others? I thought all USBs are pretty much the same when it comes to pinouts and wiring? Any help with this is greatly appreciated! scslite's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71427 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113997 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] need help for linux transition
Hmmm, the others answered with suggestions for tagging programs, but it sounds to me that you are looking for a player that works on Linux. Is that right? If so, since you're on this forum and you play your own library, is it fair to assume you run LMS? If that's the case, then one simple solution is to use SqueezePlay on your Linux box. With SqueezePlay you can browse the music folder just like on a SB. I am sure there are other Linux-based players allow you to browse via file system, but I'd have to double-check before recommending one with certainty. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99407 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] need help for linux transition
VLC for playing music on Ubuntu is straightforward and simple to use. I agree with Aubuti that Squeezeplay would be the best option though Logitech Media Server Version: 7.8.0 - 1372836728 @ Mon Jul 8 01:00:43 PDT 2013 Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: x86_64-linux Perl Version: 5.14.2 - x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1) One SB Touch connected by ethernet - Denon AVR -1912 Receiver, Paradigm 4.1 speakers One SB Boom wireless One SB Radio wireless Logitech SB Classic (in Storage) Slimdevices Squeezebox 2 (in Storage) SlimChances's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=165 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99407 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] need help for linux transition
You could try getting foobar2000 running on linux: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=54933 Or you might like DeaDBeeF: http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/ Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99407 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] need help for linix transition
Hi, I looking to make a transition to a little linux base hardware, but I can't find a good software to play my music. I have a big classical music library and I can not keep up a good way of tagging all my file. That is why I organize all my CD in a way that could find anything fast and easy. Almost all music player program work with a library system base on tag. I use foobar2000 in windows and I browse in my music by file system. I use the same way in squeezebox. I can't believe that there is not a program in linux that could meet my need??? Thank you zoula's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99407 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I use easytag. Mark Miksis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=529 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99407 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] need help for linux transition
Puddletag is also very good Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99407 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help getting my (original) Squeezebox working on Mac
Should work fine. Log into your MySqueezeBox.com account see if players show up. Sure your login info is correct on your players and LMS server? You had this working before but is now not working on a Mac? Or you purchased the player used and may already be connected to a different MySB account? toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97518 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Need help getting my (original) Squeezebox working on Mac
I was an early adopter of the Squeezebox, buying one that plugs directly into my receiver back in 2003. LOVED IT. Then a couple of things happened. One, Logitech bought the company and seemed to just start messing things up. Two, we got a Mac. For the last year I have not been able to get my actual Squeezebox (the one plugged into the receiver and connected to my wifi network) to connect with my Mac (which has the server software running, apparently). Can someone help me troubleshoot. I have no idea why it won't connect, except if I had to guess it has something to do with the squeezebox server. E.g. it is difficult to open/run on the Mac. It seems like I need to install it every time, or restart the utilities file. Its just not intuitive. Once we get them connected and speaking, my second question relates to how I run Pandora over the Squeezebox server. Thanks for any and all help!! mckinnonw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58412 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97518 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help getting my (original) Squeezebox working on Mac
Update: I figured out that the wireless security password was blocking my Squeezebox from connecting to the network, and I fixed that. My Squeezebox (e.g. the device plodded into my receiver) is now connected to my computer. BUT, now when I am on mysqueezebox.com and I search for players, it does not identify any. Does my squeezebox.com not recognize the old Squeezebox device? And if so, is there any way to stream music to it? Thanks mckinnonw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58412 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97518 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Need help getting Logitech Media Server 7.7.2 to work on GoFlex Home.
I have a couple questions concerning LMS on the GoFlex Home server running ArchLinux ARM. I had to reload the alarm OS because I couldn't login after I tried to upgrade the software with pacman. I installed the latest version of alarm (kernel 3.1.10-11-ARCH) but the older version of LMS 7.7.1 version (logitechmediaserver-7.7.1-1-arm.pkg.tar.xz which worked perfectly on the older version) wouldn't install because perl dependencies need to 5.15. I played around with the .PKGINFO inside the .xz file and after changing the perl dependencies to 5.17 I was able to get it to install LMS 7.7.1. But when I try to start the daemon it fails. When I try to start 7.7.1 as my user I get the follwoing error message: $ /etc/rc.d/logitechmediaserver start :: Starting logitechmediaserver daemon [BUSY] Can't locate Slim/bootstrap.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /opt/logitechmediaserver /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/share/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib/perl5/core_perl /usr/share/perl5/core_perl .) at ./slimserver.pl line 137. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ./slimserver.pl line 137. [FAIL] $ But if I try to start it as root I get this error message instead: $ sudo /etc/rc.d/logitechmediaserver start Password: :: Starting logitechmediaserver daemon [BUSY] The following modules failed to load: EV XML::Parser::Expat HTML::Parser JSON::XS Digest::SHA1 YAML::XS Sub::Name *** NOTE: If you're running some unsupported Linux/Unix platform, please use the buildme.sh script located here: If 7.6 is outdated by the time you read this, Replace 7.6 with the major version You should never need to do this if you're on Windows or Mac OSX. If the installers don't work for you, ask for help and/or report a bug. of Logitech Media Server you are running. *** Exiting.. [DONE] $ * END OF ERROR OUTPUT ** I don't understand why the modules are not being loaded. So I'm stuck. Anyone got any suggestions on how I can get this to work? I tried to build the package for 7.7.2 but it failed to successively compile. I tried to downgrade perl to 5.14 but was unable to find the .xz package. I also tried to build perl-5.14 from source but couldn't do that either. I can't find a LMS 7.7.2 pre-compiled package for arm on the internet either. Does anyone know if someone has succeeded in building a package for LogitechMediaSever 7.7.2 that will run on the GoFlex Home? I can live with LMS 7.7.1 if only I could get it to run. thanks John maihoaomv's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56534 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95623 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help with Net UDAP to configure a squeezebox duet
I always use the Windows executable for net-UDAP available here: http://slim2lirc.myown.mailcan.com/udap_shell_1_0_0.exe This is much more straightforward for those of us with Windows machines as it does not require the pre-installation of Perl. Launch the exe and you are straight into a command line window. I always run it from my laptop which has a hardware wireless switch. I just boot it up with the wireless off, connect it with Ethernet cable to the Receiver, power up and reset the receiver and run the exe. Works a treat. TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95154 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help with Net UDAP to configure a squeezebox duet
A common problem for many people using net-UDAP is that the PC (or laptop) you are using to configure the Receiver has to be in the same subnet as the Receiver itself. If the PC/laptop is already connected to a network and the internet then it will not work. There is some kind of procedure that goes on when you reset the Receiver that uses an unusual IP for the Receiver and PC. Not sure how it works, but I always do the following: 1. Disconnect the PC from any network, wired or wireless 2. On the PC, in the properties of the network adapter, remove any fixed IP address from the TCP/IP (V4) making sure it is obtaining its IP by DHCP (automatic) 3. Reboot the laptop or PC just to make sure the changes have stuck 4. With the Receiver switched off connect one end of a short Ethernet cable to the Receiver and the other to the network socket of the PC 5. Power on the Receiver and press and hold the front button until it flashes rapidly red 6. Wait until it turns to a slow flashing red light then launch the net-UDAP application. 7. Run the discover routine Provided the Discover routine works you can proceed with making your commands. Because it won't be possible to consult any web site while you are doing this (unless you are running a second PC for the purpose) it is a good idea to print all instructions out beforehand and have a good idea of the commands you will be uploading before you go through this procedure. Good luck! TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95154 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help with Net UDAP to configure a squeezebox duet
It should fine just being on the same network and subnet, I just stuck mine into the router and it worked no fuzzing with the pc i using the bash Shell on My ubuntu desktop . And disable the firewall !! Completely ! otherwise it would not work at all . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95154 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help with Net UDAP to configure a squeezebox duet
I solved my problem by doing the following. use the NET UDAP version 1.0 and not 1.1 launch the command line with an extra argument --local-address=my laptop IP. from this point on, everything went fine using the examples of configurations provided. thanks for your support. lillu's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95154 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help with Net UDAP to configure a squeezebox duet
Thanks for your answers. I am sure it will help me down the road. To be more precise on the isues I am facing: 1. On the Squeezebox. I plug in power + ethernet cable into the SB. I press for 6 secs the front button until it flashes quickly. I pressed it again so it flashes slowly. However, the ethernet light remains orange. 2. on Net UDAP side: When I type discover in the command prompt of net UDAP, it just does nothing, like it is not even searching. It returns me the UDAP prompt right away. However, I made sure that only my ethernet connection was active, wireless adapter disabled. See below: C:\Users\lillu\Desktop\NETUDAP\branches\1.1.x\scriptsudap_shell.pl UDAP discover UDAP help Type 'help command' for more detailed help on a command. Commands: configure - configure a device discover - Discover UDAP devices and get their current configuration exit - Exit configure mode (if configuring a device), otherwise exit ap plication fields- Display a list of valid device fields help - prints this screen, or help on 'command' list - List discovered devices, or a specific information about a devic e quit - Exit configure mode (if configuring a device), otherwise exit ap plication reset - Reset a device save_data - Save data parameters to device(s) save_ip - Save ip parameters to device(s) set - Set device parameter(s) UDAP discover UDAP discover lillu's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95154 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help with Net UDAP to configure a squeezebox duet
is this real ethernet cables ? not homeplugs or similar, otherwise you can try with a short cable conected directly to router Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95154 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help with Net UDAP to configure a squeezebox duet
Once you have the front light flashing quickly and then release the button you should not have to press it again. It should fall back to the slow blink by itself without pressing the button again. w3wilkes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22973 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95154 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Need help with Net UDAP to configure a squeezebox duet
Hi, I bought 2 duets without controller as I want to control them with my iphone. I downloaded and run net UDAP to configure the devices from my laptop. I connected my laptop and the duet with wire to my router and disactivated windows firewall on my laptop. When I run the discover command, nothing happens. I noticed also that the network light of the duet is orange. I have the same behaviour with both of them. lillu's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95154 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help with Net UDAP to configure a squeezebox duet
When you press and hold the button on the receiver do you wait until it fast blinks red before you release the button? You should hold the button until it fast blinks, then release it, then it will drop back to a slower blink. You should be ethernet connected to the receiver from the router and also ethernet connected from the laptop. Then on the laptop start up UDAP. To avoid confusion I'd only try to do one receiver at a time. Don't know whether you want the receivers to be wireless or ethernet, so here's the instructions I have; i. You will know you have the UDAP software started correctly when the prompt is UDAP Now it is time to program the Squeezebox. 2) First step for me is to reset the SB to factory defaults. Hold the front button until the red light flashes fast. (it will flash slow first) 3) Now you need to find the Squeezebox. In this case the SB should either be connected to your router via a Cat cable or directly to your PC via a Cat cable. To have your PC find the SB, type DISCOVER at the prompt. a. It may not find it right away if you are quick so try again. You will know when it finds it since there will be a lot more text that pops up instead of the two lines that occur when it doesnt find it. 4) Once found you need to select which SB to configure. If you only have one on your network this will be easy, just type CONF 1 5) Type SET_INTERFACE=1 enter 6) SAVE_DATA enter 7) RESET enter At this point the LED will turn blue. After it turns blue you will need to get the SB back into init mode which you do by holding the button until it slowly flashes red Now we can configure your network: 8) type DISCOVER enter 9) type CONF 1 enter 10) type SET_SQUEEZECENTER_ADDRESS=111.222.333.444 enter a. Dont use 111.222.333.444 but instead use the address from above you wrote down 11) Type SAVE_DATA enter 12) Type RESET enter Now you can download Squeezecenter and it should then run it, it should find your SB automatically. Here is a summary of the steps once in the UDAP: 1. Factory reset SBR 2. Start udap_shell.pl and run these commands: discover conf 1 set interface=1 save_data reset 3. Wait until LED turns blue, then put the SBR back in init mode (LED flashing red slowly): discover conf 1 set squeezecenter_address=ip address save_data * The LED should go white and the SBR should now be ready to use. * If the LED flashes white rapidly, this is a firmware update. WIRELESS INSTALL Personally Id first do it wired to make sure that everything works okay and then onto wireless. You will now have to go to a computer that is running your wireless network and goto the CMD prompt and type IPCONFIG again. Write down the settings from above, but now also include the wireless ones. They will look something like this: Wireless Network Connection 2: IP: 111.222.333.444 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway: 444.555.666.1 Also go to your router software and write down your SSID name and wireless channel. My wireless channel was 8 which my router labels as US, perhaps yours is the same. If not substitute yours below for where I have written 8. For my SSID name I have chosen mySSID, replace with yours. Lastly you will need your WEP key as well. Replace all of the 6s with your WEP key. Once you have these settings the steps are similar to above. *note the set command can have as many set commands after it as you want. I set everything on one line from set all the way through the address* 0) ** See end of this doc for WJHome Settings ** 1) Run the UDAP shell 2) Type these commands discover conf 1 set interface=0 lan_ip_mode=0 lan_gateway=192.168.106.1 lan_network_address=111.222.333.444 lan_subnet_mask=255.255.255.0 primary_dns=444.555.666.1 wireless_SSID=mySSID wireless_wep_on=1 wireless_keylen=1 wireless_mode=0 wireless_region_id=14 wireless_wep_key_0=66 wireless_channel=11 squeezecenter_address=111.222.333.444 save_data reset If you are using the more secure WPA this method has been outlined. (I havent tested it yet, but will later and update the thread) WPA 1: set wireless_SSID=MySSID wireless_mode=0 wireless_region_id=14 wireless_wpa_on=1 wireless_wpa_mode=1 wireless_wpa_psk=Top Secret! WPA 2, TKIP+AES: set wireless_SSID=MySSID wireless_mode=0 wireless_region_id=14 wireless_wpa_on=1 wireless_wpa_mode=2 wireless_wpa_cipher=3 wireless_wpa_psk=Top Secret! Here's my latest encounter with UDAP to get my receiver set up wireless with UDAP (I have a controller so this was just enough to let me finish with the controller): http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?92457-Duet-won-t-connect-to-Library-under-7-7-1p=702992viewfull=1#post702992 And the Robin Bowes instructions here: http://projects.robinbowes.com/Net-UDAP/trac/wiki/ReceiverSetupProcedure Between Logitech jkish sic0048 I was able to get this working rather easily. Thanks guys!! w3wilkes's Profile:
Re: [slim] Need help to setup Trackstat with itunes
OK, so I have copied the iTunesUpdate.pl file from the LMS cache folder onto my laptop into the iTunes folder, and copied the iTunes_Hist.txt file from the playlists folder there as well. I have created a .bat file with the following; C:\Perl\bin\perl.exe C:\Users\Matthew\My Music\iTunes\iTunesUpdate.pl iTunes_Hist.txt (C:\Music\iTunes\ being the path of the Windows data files and C:\Perl\bin\perl.exe being the path of the perl installation, but it's not updating. I get the CMD window pop up but quickly close. What am I doing wrong? Have I got the right idea and just using the wrong script? Presumably the iTunesUpdate.pl won't change, so what I'd like to do is be able to set up a script on the laptop to point to the iTunes_Hist.txt on the LMS but update on the laptop, and set it to schedule so it runs periodically. Should the iTunes_Hist.txt be purged when it does update? -- Finchy Finchy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53230 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93530 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help to setup Trackstat with itunes
Finchy;692431 Wrote:
OK, so I have copied the iTunesUpdate.pl file from the LMS cache folder
onto my laptop into the iTunes folder, and copied the iTunes_Hist.txt
file from the playlists folder there as well.
I have created a .bat file with the following;
C:\Perl\bin\perl.exe C:\Users\Matthew\My Music\iTunes\iTunesUpdate.pl
iTunes_Hist.txt
(C:\Music\iTunes\ being the path of the Windows data files and
C:\Perl\bin\perl.exe being the path of the perl installation, but it's
not updating. I get the CMD window pop up but quickly close. What am I
doing wrong? Have I got the right idea and just using the wrong script?
What you have done sounds correctly, but maybe you could try to open a
command prompt and run the bat file from the command prompt so you can
see what it says ?
At the moment it sounds like just closes the window so you have no idea
what the error is.
Finchy;692431 Wrote:
Presumably the iTunesUpdate.pl won't change, so what I'd like to do is
be able to set up a script on the laptop to point to the
iTunes_Hist.txt on the LMS but update on the laptop, and set it to
schedule so it runs periodically.
Should the iTunes_Hist.txt be purged when it does update?
If I remember correctly, the iTunes_Hist.txt file is renamed at the end
of the execution so the next time you run the script it will be a new
file which only contains the changes since last time the script was
run.
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Re: [slim] Need help to setup Trackstat with itunes
The TrackStatiTunesUpdate.pl in mine is really old, last modified 10/7/2009, so I presume it's not writing to it. If I want to just use iTunesUpdate where do I find the equivalent file for that and what is it called? Also, how do I use perl? Do I just create a text file to run PERL with the relevant paths and just run the script (or set it to be scheduled?) -- Finchy Finchy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53230 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93530 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help to setup Trackstat with itunes
Finchy;692043 Wrote:
The TrackStatiTunesUpdate.pl in mine is really old, last modified
10/7/2009, so I presume it's not writing to it. Also, the
iTunesUpdate.pl file in the folder
C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins\Plugins\iTunesUpdate
has not been modified since 2010.
Those are the correct ones, if you use TrackStat you use:
C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins\Plugins\TrackStat\TrackStatiTunesUpdate.plp
And if you use iTunes Update, you use:
C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins\Plugins\iTunesUpdate\iTunesUpdate.pl
Finchy;692043 Wrote:
The only thing that I can find that's recording the songs played is the
playlist generated in the designated 'Playlists' folder.
With TrackStat, you have to also have Custom Scan plugin installed, and
you will then find a Output directory setting in Custom Scan Settings
page under the TrackStat Statistics Export module.
I don't remember exactly how it looks like in iTunes Update, but I know
there is a Direct Update option in its settings page which needs to be
turned off if you don't have iTunes on the same machine. Turning this
option off will make iTunes Update producing a text file instead of
calling iTunes directly. Based on the source code which I just took a
look at, I think it produce a iTunes_Hist.txt file in the Playlist
Folder. Maybe that's the one you are seeing ?
Finchy;692043 Wrote:
If I want to just use iTunesUpdate where do I find the equivalent file
for that and what is it called?
For iTunes Update you would use:
C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins\Plugins\iTunesUpdate\iTunesUpdate.pl
and specify the iTunes_Hist.txt file it generates as input
Finchy;692043 Wrote:
Also, how do I use perl? Do I just create a text file to run PERL with
the relevant paths and just run the script (or set it to be
scheduled?)
You run perl from a command prompt something like this:
perl.exe
C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins\Plugins\iTunesUpdate\iTunesUpdate.pl
iTunes_Hist.txt
(Assuming you stand in the directory where the iTunes_Hist.txt file
is)
If you use TrackStat, you would use the same principle, just use the
TrackStat provided TrackStatiTunesUpdate.pl file and the txt file
generated by TrackStat.
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Re: [slim] Need help to setup Trackstat with itunes
Finchy;691534 Wrote:
Yes the paths are the same, so I guess I can just run the script every
few days to update the playcounts into iTunes?
Yes
Finchy;691534 Wrote:
I know nothing about writing or running a perl script - is it a
standard script, where can I get it, and do I need to install anything
for perl?!
The TrackStatiTunesUpdate.pl script can be found in
Cache/InstalledPlugins/TrackStat.
You can find the location of the Cache directory in SBS
Settings/Information.
To run it you need perl to be installed, on Windows this means that you
need to install Community Edition of ActiveState perl:
http://www.activestate.com/activeperl/downloads
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Re: [slim] Need help to setup Trackstat with itunes
Ah, ok. How I'd like to set it up is like this; iTunes is on my laptop, with all the audio files on (in a folder on teh F partition) but the iTunes database files directed by symbolic link to a network folder on my WHS 2011. I want to keep this as I have an ipod and iphone, plus my Android phone syncs ratings and playcounts (via iSyncr). I have a copy of all the iTunes music on the WHS, in the same file structure as the laptop and also on the F partition. Logitech Media Server is on the WHS, with the iTunes folder pointing to the one on the network drive that the laptop uses. The Touch then accesses the music on the WHS. With my iTunes, I have been rating songs for years and add the ratings to the comments (ie Rated 1, Rated 2, etc, as iTunes doesn't store the ratings in the ID Tags), and have a couple of smart playlists in there that show me songs I have rated but not updated the comment on. I regularly backup all the iTunes music and database, and also run the same backup from the iTunes music on the laptop to on the WHS (so they have the same songs, etc when I've added new ones). Am I correct in assuming that iTunes doesn't actually need to be installed on the WHS and that the iTunes Update plugin will add playcounts into the iTunes database files on the network folder LMS is pointing to? So far I haven't seen it updating, but then I've probably not set iTunes Update properly. I'm not bothered about having dynamic ratings in LMS/the Touch as I have loads of smart playlists in iTunes already (I am very organised! :D ) so if the playcounts are updating the smart playlists should also update whenever I run iTunes? Am I on the right track here, or misunderstanding stuff? Thanks for the help, btw! -- Finchy Finchy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53230 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93530 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help to setup Trackstat with itunes
If you don't have iTunes installed on the same computer as LMS is
running, iTunes Update and TrackStat will work the same way. Both will
generate a text file with changed ratings and play counts and you need
to manually run a perl script on the computer using iTunes to actually
write the ratings and play counts to iTunes.
If the paths to the music files in LMS differs from the paths to the
music files in iTunes, I think you need to use TrackStat because I
think iTunes Update requires the paths to be the same, while TrackStat
have a configuration parameter where you can remap them before they are
written to the text file the perl script uses as input.
The principle is that with TrackStat, you configure in Custom
Scan/TrackStat Statistics Export module, where the iTunes music
directory is from iTunes perspective and that will make sure that the
paths written to the text file will be the one iTunes is familiar with.
So later when you run the perl script (TrackStatiTunesUpdate.pl) and
feed the text file as input, iTunes will be able to adjust the ratings
and play counts appropriately.
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Re: [slim] Need help to setup Trackstat with itunes
Yes the paths are the same, so I guess I can just run the script every few days to update the playcounts into iTunes? I know nothing about writing or running a perl script - is it a standard script, where can I get it, and do I need to install anything for perl?! -- Finchy Finchy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53230 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93530 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help to setup Trackstat with itunes
Now then, I'm having a go at getting this set up, but I'm stuck. I've done the Web interface part and the Browse menus on SqueezeBox/Transporter part of http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Setup_support_for_ratings - they look to be the same thing. Are they two different options? Now Playing is the next step, which says; The next step is to configure the contents of the Now Playing screen. 1Goto Player Settings in the web interface for a specific SqueezeBox/Transporter 2Step down to the screen saver parameters and change Choose a screensaver to use when playing to Music Information Screen 3Click Apply to store the changes 4Goto the Music Information Screen section at the top of the page 5Step down to the Screensaver section Where is the screen saver option? I can't see it at all. I'm in the web browser looking under Interface but can't see it anywhere, or under any other tabs. I'm sure it's installed as I can see Music Information Screen v4.4.7 in the installed plugins. Any ideas? -- Finchy Finchy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53230 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93530 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help to setup Trackstat with itunes
Are you using a Touch/Radio/Controller or a Boom/Classic/Transporter ?
I'm afraid the browse menu setup doesn't work anymore due to the
following bug in the Logitech code:
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17732
(You can vote on it if you want it to be corrected)
The setup in the wiki for the Now Playing screen, describes how to do
it on a Boom/Classic/Transporter. On a Touch/Radio/Controller I think
you need to install the third party Custom Clock applet to be able to
display ratings directly on the Now Playing screen and then you can to
change the configuration in the Custom Clock screen so it replaces the
standard Now Playing screen. Please note that this works on a
Controller and Radio, on a Touch it works as long as you don't control
it using the touch screen. If you have a Touch and control it via a
Touch screen, I would advice you to skip this step and accept that the
ratings aren't shown directly on the Now Playing screen. However, you
can still configure Custom Clock as a playing screen saver on a Touch,
that way it will be displayed while something is playing but will
disappear when you touch the touch screen.
Unfortunately, even with Custom Clock, I don't think there is a
pre-defined style that shows rating information, so you probably need
to configure one yourself with Custom Clock Helper plugin in Squeezebox
Server.
To sum it up, if you have a Touch/Radio/Controller, I think I would
skip the chapter regarding Now Playing screen for now and focus on
the rest of the tutorial that makes sure you can transfer the rating
information from iTunes.
You can always access the rating information by holding the touch
screen on a track for a while or hitting the +(more) button on a
Radio/Controller, which opens a context menu which have a Rating sub
menu.
As a side note, if you want rating support in Squeezebox Server, don't
forget to vote on the following enhancement request:
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=142
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Re: [slim] Need help to setup Trackstat with itunes
Ah, ok I'm not going mad then! lol The main thing for me is playcounts going back to iTunes, as that's what updates the iTunes smartplaylists. Is that still working? Oh yes, and it's a Touch I have. Very nice indeed just won't be able to convince my girlfriend of how good it is until I get it set up so it's working smoothly with everything else! -- Finchy Finchy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53230 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93530 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help to setup Trackstat with itunes
Finchy;691344 Wrote:
The main thing for me is playcounts going back to iTunes, as that's
what updates the iTunes smartplaylists. Is that still working? Edit:
Ah, read the rest of your post had too much wine tonight, will
continue tomorrow! ;)
Yes, both play counts and also ratings should be transferred, the
limitation is only what's possible to see in the Squeezebox interfaces,
they still exist and is transferred correctly in the background.
Also note that if you are only interested in transferring them from
Squeezebox Server to iTunes and don't plan to use them for smart
playlists in Squeezebox Server (through Dynamic Playlist/SQL Playlist
plugins), it might be easier to just setup iTunes Update plugin instead
of using TrackStat. It's described on the same wiki page in a separate
section.
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[slim] Need help to setup Trackstat with itunes
Hi all I have Logitech Media Server installed on my Windows Home Server 2011. I had initially installed iTunes on there with a copy of my iTunes files and DB from my laptop, but decided it was easier to just keep a copy of the files on there and use a syncing application to update the new music and changed DB files between the two. My Squeezebox Touch connects to LMS and is picking up all my music and playlists from the iTunes files (despite iTunes not being installed on it). However, I can't get Trackstat to sync back with playcounts. I have a trial license activated on it (which expires tomorrow!) but I don't want to pay for it until I know it works. Is there anything I am doing wrong? I also want to be able to update ratings in the Touch if possible and have it sync those back to iTunes - does Trackstat allow you to do that? Thanks -- Finchy Finchy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53230 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93530 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help to setup Trackstat with itunes
Finchy;689714 Wrote:
Hi all
I have Logitech Media Server installed on my Windows Home Server 2011.
I had initially installed iTunes on there with a copy of my iTunes
files and DB from my laptop, but decided it was easier to just keep a
copy of the files on there and use a syncing application to update the
new music and changed DB files between the two.
My Squeezebox Touch connects to LMS and is picking up all my music and
playlists from the iTunes files (despite iTunes not being installed on
it). However, I can't get Trackstat to sync back with playcounts.
I also want to be able to update ratings in the Touch if possible and
have it sync those back to iTunes - does Trackstat allow you to do
that?
See here:
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Setup_support_for_ratings
Finchy;689714 Wrote:
I have a trial license activated on it (which expires tomorrow!) but I
don't want to pay for it until I know it works. Is there anything I am
doing wrong?
If you don't get it to work before the evaluation license expires, just
let me know your License Manager account identity via mail/PM and we can
arrange something.
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Re: [slim] Need help to setup Trackstat with itunes
That's great, thanks Erland! I've got a busy couple of days so if I don't get to have a go before tomorrow I'll PM you if that's ok! :) -- Finchy Finchy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53230 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93530 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help troubleshooting alarm
I've found alarms to work more consistently if NOT set to occur precisely on the hour/half hour. Such as 6:28 instead of 6:30, for example. YMMV -- MrMike6by9 MrMike6by9's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34753 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86632 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I've got a Squeezebox Radio that won't consistently play the playlists I ask it play as an alarm, and it instead reverts to the backup alarm. Network signal strength is 90% or greater. I also have a Classic that is mostly rock-solid regarding alarms. Any ideas how I can track down the cause? I've never messed with logging etc., but am open to ideas. Thanks- -- Bixby Bixby's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9411 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86632 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help with local radio station stream
I email both stations asking for an alternate stream link but I'm not holding my breath. Googling the issue it seems like the Streamtheworld format is spreading and causing a number of issues with many different services/devices. -- alexus alexus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44930 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86453 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help with local radio station stream
jackaninny;619520 Wrote: Sorry - using the SBS web interface to change the stream on my hardware devices such as the Boom (under SBS - Internet Radio - Local - then I see the list of local stations provided by SBS for my local area) - then I can Favorite,Play or Add to Current Playlist for any of them via the web interface. And you are 100% sure that the BOOM is not instead connected to mysqueezebox.com? If you login to your SB account at mysqueezebox.com, the boom should show up under players as disconnected. If it shows up as connected, your Boom is not actually connected to your local SbS. If your boom is connected to mysb.com, you should use the boom menu to navigate to my music and it should offer to change you to your local SbS. -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86453 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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garym;619578 Wrote: And you are 100% sure that the BOOM is not instead connected to mysqueezebox.com? If you login to your SB account at mysqueezebox.com, the boom should show up under players as disconnected. If it shows up as connected, your Boom is not actually connected to your local SbS. If your boom is connected to mysb.com, you should use the boom menu to navigate to my music and it should offer to change you to your local SbS. 100% - I'll post a screenshot when I get home today -- jackaninny jackaninny's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=273 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86453 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
