[slim] Re: Choppy play on Synched SB3 + 2x SB2s causes Synch delays/Unsynched

2006-02-19 Thread Mockbeggar

Mockbeggar Wrote: 
 I'm getting the same choppy play on my Sq3.  Lot's of bandwidth.  Lots
 of computer power.  A bit distressing.


I tried turning off the non-essential computers that were on the
network, and that seems to have cleared up the problem.  Thanks for the
advice about bandwidth.  That seems to be the problem.


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[slim] Re: Choppy play on Synched SB3 + 2x SB2s causes Synch delays/Unsynched

2006-02-18 Thread ajmitchell

Thanks Abdomen but I can add more Sb2s and Sb1s without problem, but not
my new Sb3. Only the Sb3 has a problem in testing so far.


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[slim] Re: Choppy play on Synched SB3 + 2x SB2s causes Synch delays/Unsynched

2006-02-18 Thread Michaelwagner

It is indeed odd that the SB1s (with their considerably smaller music
buffer) had no problems and the SB3s have problems.

The only difference between an SB3 and an SB2 is the internal antenna
on the SB3 (and some very early SB2s had a different wireless card).

Are you close to other neighbours? Any chance they might have wireless
networks too? Wireless interference is one way this can happen ... some
people report that the SB3 can be more susceptable to some types of
interference because of the antenna configuration. 

You might try downloading netstumbler and see if there are other people
in your area using the same (or adjacent) channels and intefering with
your wireless signal.


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[slim] Re: Choppy play on Synched SB3 + 2x SB2s causes Synch delays/Unsynched

2006-02-13 Thread Mockbeggar

I'm getting the same choppy play on my Sq3.  Lot's of bandwidth.  Lots
of computer power.  A bit distressing.


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[slim] Re: Choppy play on Synched SB3 + 2x SB2s causes Synch delays/Unsynched

2006-02-13 Thread abdomen

Mockbeggar Wrote: 
 I'm getting the same choppy play on my Sq3.  Lot's of bandwidth.  Lots
 of computer power.  A bit distressing.
I am not trying to be flip, but unless your slimserver machine itself
is unable to keep up, the choppy play is almost certainly caused by
insufficient network bandwidth. Keep in mind that wireless signal
strength will not reveal interference, other devices consuming
bandwidth, or other issues preventing successful data transfer.

Post some details of your setup (is it wireless?) in a new thread and
you are likely to get good help. You can always contact Slim support,
if need be-- they are wonderful. If your setup is in fact wireless, you
might start by disabling any turbo mode on your access point and
experimenting with several different channels to see if the problem is
caused by interference that can be dodged. You can also take look at
this page:

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?RouterStatus

Oh, the NetTest plugin may help diagnose the situation.

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?PluginDiagnostics

Best of luck!


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[slim] Re: Choppy play on Synched SB3 + 2x SB2s causes Synch delays/Unsynched

2006-02-02 Thread ajmitchell

JazzHarper Wrote: 
 The SB3 was the one that went choppy and lost sync.  Skipping  to the
 next track did not help.   
 I've just avoided syncing them since.

Thanks for that observation. I am hoping to do a definitive test this
weekend and thereupon decide whether to keep my Sb3s (and add more) or
collect SB2's. I actually want a server running about 7 SBs eventually.


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[slim] Re: Choppy play on Synched SB3 + 2x SB2s causes Synch delays/Unsynched

2006-02-01 Thread ajmitchell

I have bought another SB2 in order to test my system. If the new
wireless SB2 works ok, I am going to conclude that there is a problem
with my SB3 (all possibly all SB3s if no one can confirm that this
combination works). However if the new SB2 does not work your
hypotheses about wireless  or file decoding may apply (somehow).

Alex


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[slim] Re: Choppy play on Synched SB3 + 2x SB2s causes Synch delays/Unsynched

2006-02-01 Thread abdomen

ajmitchell Wrote: 
 I have bought another SB2 in order to test my system. If the new
 wireless SB2 works ok, I am going to conclude that there is a problem
 with my SB3 (all possibly all SB3s if no one can confirm that this
 combination works). However if the new SB2 does not work your
 hypotheses about wireless  or file decoding may apply (somehow).
 
 Alex
I look forward to learning how things work out. I must say I agree with
those who have implied that network saturation is the likely culprit
based on your description (i.e. all three players on wireless). 

If it is cheaper/easier than running CAT5 to one of the SBs, a solution
might be to place a second wireless access point right by the one you
already have, and configure things like this:


Wireless AP (set to channel x)
^   ^*
__|   |
SBa--| |
SBb--|   Wireless AP (set to channel y)|
^
SBc--|


This connection marked with ^* uses one of the switched ethernet ports
on each of the wireless APs. The two plain ^ connections are
wireless.

Disclaimer I haven't (yet) needed to try this myself, but I think it
would be likely to do the trick.

Edit: So much for my ASCII art-- the consecitive spaces don't get
rendered. The idea in English: connect a second Wireless AP, set to a
different channel, into the first with an ethernet wire. Set two of
your SBs to connect to the SSID of the old AP, and one to the SSID of
the new AP.


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[slim] Re: Choppy play on Synched SB3 + 2x SB2s causes Synch delays/Unsynched

2006-02-01 Thread JazzHarper

I've experienced the same problem, once.  I have one SB2,
one SB3 and a Linux host for slimserver, all wireless (Netgear
802.11b router).  They had been in sync over many Ogg Vorbis
tracks but the SB3 lost it completely when the server started
streaming a FLAC track.  I don't know why that would make a
difference--I am under the impression that Ogg tracks are
transmitted as FLAC.

The SB3 was the one that went choppy and lost sync.  Skipping
to the next track did not help.  It was very annoying--couldn't
have happened at a worse time.  I attributed the sudden occurrance
to interference from a neighbor's network/microwave/phone. 
I've just avoided syncing them since.


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[slim] Re: Choppy play on Synched SB3 + 2x SB2s causes Synch delays/Unsynched

2006-01-31 Thread ajmitchell

 You shouldn't see choppy play on either the sb2 or sb3 unless you're
doing transcoding on the server or streaming something uncompressed

I agree I shouldn't see it, but there it is nevertheless. The computer
has plenty of capacity Athlon 2800 1GB RAM CPU useage very low
throughout. No other PC activity.

All files Mp3 = on testing the size of the file makes no difference
128kps or 320 kps.

Has anyone else got SB2 (ideally more than one) and SB3 networked
wirelessly together?

Thanks

Alex


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Re: [slim] Re: Choppy play on Synched SB3 + 2x SB2s causes Synch delays/Unsynched

2006-01-31 Thread Ben Sandee
On 1/31/06, ajmitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You shouldn't see choppy play on either the sb2 or sb3 unless you'redoing transcoding on the server or streaming something uncompressed
I agree I shouldn't see it, but there it is nevertheless. The computerhas plenty of capacity Athlon 2800 1GB RAM CPU useage very lowthroughout. No other PC activity.It sounds like you are running out of wireless bandwidth -- I know it may not make sense though. The stops and starts sound like what I hear unsynchronized if I've got really low wireless connection strength.
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[slim] Re: Choppy play on Synched SB3 + 2x SB2s causes Synch delays/Unsynched

2006-01-30 Thread tim

I've had a similar experience with 3 sb2's (two wireless and 1 wired). 
It seems to happen frequently when my wireless strength drops below 50%
or so.  I remedied the situation, for the most part, by changing
channels and using an external antenna. I think wireless networking is
a big pain to deal with.  Especially with WPA.  You might try using
channel 12 or 13 on your router.  Experiment with your router set up. I
know that the EU has more channels available than we do here in the US.


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[slim] Re: Choppy play on Synched SB3 + 2x SB2s causes Synch delays/Unsynched

2006-01-30 Thread snarlydwarf

You shouldn't see choppy play on either the sb2 or sb3 unless you're
doing transcoding on the server or streaming something uncompressed. 
The buffer size is pretty healthy on the sb2/sb3 and should cover up
any small network burping.

What sort of files are you playing?

Are you transcoding (perhaps accidentally -- if you've somehow retained
the sb1 configuration, you may have left some transcoding setting lying
around).


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