[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
The benchmarks on the synology page refer to the network performance. You wouldn´t need much performance but for the first time filling your Diskstation. The 101j uses a 266MHz Intel CPU and is the only one without any fan if i am right. I use a WD2500JB HD and doesn´t get this thing hot even cold when the HD goes to energy save mode. It just works flawless and really fast for browsing albums. There may be differences in the Slimserver webgui. I only use it from my sofa browsing the Album folder and i am totally satisfied with the speed. Rescanning and recreating my library with ~6000 taged files takes around 1 hour. So setting it up, doing changes may be faster on other solutions but just listening albums in the album library doesn´t need more horsepower. -- Wombat Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
I've bought a DS-101G+ since 4 months, configure it for slimserver and i'm plenty satisfied with this product. So satisfied that i'm deeply interested in buying their new great product : the CS-406 Cubestation... -- Chander Chander's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3691 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
Hi all, thanks for the replies. I'll try to get my hands on the DS-101G+, I havn't found it in any shops in sweden, but I'll have another look. A fan is not a problem for me, but I'd rather have a SATA than IDE (reuse of HD). Because of that I'd rather go with the 106 or 106e than the 101j. Is there any other reason that the 101j would be better than the 106/106e to run SSODS? I know that the upload/download performance is not important for the operation of the slimserver, but I'm still interested in the 106 since it has better performance than the 106e. This can only mean better hardware (in my world) and if it's the same CPU at the same speed (266Mhz) and the same gigabit chip as the 101j and 106e I'm hoping that it has more memory. This can of course be totally wrong, and I'd appreciate it someone had some info on the 106 hardware. I've sent a request to synology about this, let's hope they reply. Btw, The README.txt of SSODS does not cover the 106, only the 101j, 101g+, 106e and the CS-406. Thanks, Lance -- Lance Lance's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
> > I'd appreciate it someone had some info on the 106 hardware. > I've sent a request to synology about this, let's hope they reply. > ... > Btw, > The README.txt of SSODS does not cover the 106, only the 101j, 101g+, > 106e and the CS-406. > I have been told that the two are pretty much the same -- whatever that means. A German internet shop has both versions in stock: 'DS-106' (http://www.informationsarchiv.net/shop/shop-artikel_101531.shtml) (260 €)and 'DS-106e' (http://www.informationsarchiv.net/shop/shop-artikel_101527.shtml) (230 €) According to these pages, the 106 is black (like 101g+), and the 106e is white (like the 101j). Both have an MPC8241 CPU and 32 MB of RAM. The difference I found is that the 106 has "Windows ADS/ NT4 Domain" and "Secure FTP by SSL/TLS". Maybe the 106 has an improved software configuration (Linux kernel) or a faster disk interface. And maybe the DS-106 is 'something completely different' (http://webdb.scope.ne.jp/real_fleet/amadana/ds_106/).. ;-) I updated the README.ssods. Please let me know what Synology said. flipflip -- flipflip flipflip's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
Here's the "Hardware" section from the latest README.ssods (my local copy, will be in the next release): Code: Hardware ARM based DiskStations: Model: DS-101DS-101j - Architecture Intel XScale (armv5b) CPU Model FW IXP420 BB (?) FW IXP420 BB CPU Speed 266 MHz 266 MHz RAM 64 MB 32 MB internal HDD 1 x IDE 1 x IDE PowerPC based Disk- and CubeStations: Model: DS-101g+ DS-106e DS-106 CS-406 - Architecture Motorola FreeScale (ppc) CPU Model MPC8241 MPC8241 MPC8241 MPC8245 CPU Speed 266 MHz 266 MHz 266 MHz 266 MHz RAM 64 MB 32 MB64 MB 128 MB internal HDD 1 x SATA 1 x SATA 1 x SATA4 x SATA Sources: - mostly own research, confirmed by the following - http://www.brack.ch - http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/DS101/DS101JHardware - http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/DS101/SerialConsole - http://www.nslu2-linux.org/gallery/DS101-PCBs I'd certainly go for one of the 64 MB models. Or the CS. -- flipflip flipflip's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
Hi, The 64 MB of the DS-106 seems promising if that's correct. May I ask where this info comes from? http://www.brack.ch says 32 MB, hopes this is wrong. I got a reply from the synology support. They confirm that there are differences in hardware between the DS-106 and the DS-106e, but they didn't want to tell me what the differences are. :-( /Lance -- Lance Lance's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
The information on the webpage you indicated is wrong. It's 64 MB. I have it confirmed by someone who has access to a DS-106. I'd buy one if I hadn't already bought the 101j a few weeks ago :-( -- flipflip Check out flipflip's 'SlimServer On DiskStation (SSODS)' (http://oinkzwurgl.org/software/ssods/)! See also threads: 23066, 24626, 24564 and 19335 (English); 23062 und 24382 (Deutsch). flipflip's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
A litlle OT but i just found that http://linkstationwiki.org/Information/HGOverview When don´t bothering about a fan the Buffalo HD-HG300 may be a real winner. 128MB! Of cause there is no so simple installation like SSDS from master flipflip. -- Wombat Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
Hello, today i have received my new DS106 (without e, Firmware: 2.0.1 - 3.0357). The station has 64MB and the installation of SSODS was succesfull. I have tried to install the 6.3 version. After renaming the tar.gz the installation started, but without starting slimserver. Actually the 6.2.2 version is running. In the next couple of days i will try to install the 6.3 again. -- mr_hyde mr_hyde's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6032 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
I have never tried anything else but 6.2.1 and 6.2.2. Perhaps there are some Perl modules missing. Check the logfile and possibly enable telnet and start SlimServer manually. That might output an error or so. The command to start Slimserver is: /volume1/SlimServer/bin/rc.slimserver start (or "stop" to stop and "status" to show the status). Can you please give us your opinion on the speed of the SlimServer web interface. Is it running smoothly? How long does it take to browse into albums? -- flipflip Check out flipflip's 'SlimServer On DiskStation (SSODS)' (http://oinkzwurgl.org/software/ssods/)! See also threads: 23066, 24626, 24564 and 19335 (English); 23062 und 24382 (Deutsch). flipflip's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
hello mr_hyde, how loud is the ds-106 and what is performance about? regards, alter_sack -- alter_sack Squeezebox 3 - SlimServer 6.3 with MYSQL - Moose v.0.33 - CEC DA 53 - Denon PMA 2000AE - Tannoy D500 alter_sack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5491 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
Hello, @alter_sack I have no comparison to another type of diskstation, but from my point of view, the performance is ok. Surely, it is a bit slower than an 2400+ Athlon with 512MB, but i think its better than th 32MB solution. The webinterface runs smooth (but up to now, i have only about 1100 songs ripped). Nevertheless, if you want to place the DS in your living room, you should choose a place, where you can't hear it. It is comparable to a PC. @flip_flip In your DS webinterface i saw a message regarding a problem with a perl module. When i have got the time, i will try it again and will post the logging. Actually, i am happy that the 6.2.2 is running without any problems and that the installation was so easy. Thanks to you, flip_flip. Mr_Hyde -- mr_hyde mr_hyde's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6032 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
Hello, the problem with the 6.3 nightly are missing perl modules. The first was Digest::SHA1 I think this is not the only one. How can i compile these modules for Slimserver on the DS? Thanks, Mr_Hyde -- mr_hyde mr_hyde's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6032 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
You have to install that module and then see if there is another one missing. Some modules depend on others. As far as I know there are two types of Perl modules. The first consist only of Perl source files and will therefore work on any platform and do not need to be compiled. Just installed (that should be possible on the DS). Others come with binary libraries written in c for example. The libraries (usually just one) have to be compiled in order to work on a certain platform. In your case the perl binaries come from Debian GNU/Linux so the needed perl modules might be available on Debian mirrors. Check http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages and look in packages of the "stable" distribution/release. The platform would be "PowerPC" (ppc). The .deb packages is an "ar" archive. In Linux you can do "ar x x.deb" and get a data.tar.gz which will contain the module and all necessary files. These have to be copied to the right directory on the DS. A good resource for Linux on the DS is www.nslu2-linux.org. There is also a page on SlimServer there. Also see the README.ssods. Good luck and happy hacking! :-) -- flipflip Check out flipflip's 'SlimServer On DiskStation (SSODS)' (http://oinkzwurgl.org/software/ssods/)! See also threads: 23066, 24626, 24564 and 19335 (English); 23062 und 24382 (Deutsch). flipflip's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
Hello, today i tried it again to install SS 6.3 on the DS106. Now it seems to be, that everything is working fine. First of all i had to copy the Digest::SHA1 Perl module into the Perl directory. Then i copied the complete Slim directory and the Plugin directory into the CPAN directory. For some reasons the Perl modules in these directories are not included in the slimservers Search Path. Now the Server is running on the diskstation. But actually the mem usage is about 55Mb after scanning the Music libary. So i am happy that i have received the DS106 and not the DS106e, because the web interface seems to run still smooth. After a restart, the mem usage is about 40Mb Mr_Hyde --- SlimServer auto start is disabled. Database file size is 1.3 MB. SlimServer is running, PID is 2567. Process state is S (sleeping). Memory usage is 55536 kb total with 32956 kb resident set size. Running since: 18:33, CPU time: 8:55, CPU load: 24.0% (average). -- mr_hyde mr_hyde's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6032 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
I went to the Synology web site, and there seems to be nowhere to buy them in North America. Is that right? -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
flipflip Wrote: > Here's the "Hardware" section from the latest README.ssods (my local > copy, will be in the next release): > > > Code: > > > Hardware > > > ARM based DiskStations: > > Model: DS-101DS-101j > - > Architecture Intel XScale (armv5b) > CPU Model FW IXP420 BB (?) FW IXP420 BB > CPU Speed 266 MHz 266 MHz > RAM 64 MB 32 MB > internal HDD 1 x IDE 1 x IDE > > PowerPC based Disk- and CubeStations: > > Model: DS-101g+ DS-106e DS-106 CS-406 > - > Architecture Motorola FreeScale (ppc) > CPU Model MPC8241 MPC8241 MPC8241 MPC8245 > CPU Speed 266 MHz 266 MHz 266 MHz 266 MHz > RAM 64 MB 32 MB64 MB 128 MB > internal HDD 1 x SATA 1 x SATA 1 x SATA4 x SATA > > > Sources: > - mostly own research, confirmed by the following > - http://www.brack.ch > - http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/DS101/DS101JHardware > - http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/DS101/SerialConsole > - http://www.nslu2-linux.org/gallery/DS101-PCBs > > > > > I'd certainly go for one of the 64 MB models. Or the CS. > > Edit: The CS-406 has an 400 MHz CPU! Hi, I was happy when I saw that the DS-106 model also includes 64Mb RAM as the previous 101g+, does anyone know how the different flash memory sizes between the different models (16Mb for 101g+ and 2Mb for 106) influence the performance? I can find both models here in Sweden with similar price. Regards Stefan -- Stefan71a Stefan71a's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6253 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
I reckon that the flash size has no influence on the performance. As far as I know, it is used to store the boot loader, the kernel and an initrd image. These will be loaded on boot and are not used for operation. But I may be wrong about that. Btw, there is a beta release firmware for the DS-101 (version 366) which does not use up memory for a ram disk anymore. So the full 64 MB are available for programs. SS therefore runs rather well compared to a DS-101j. The PPC models may still be faster, though. At least the 64MB variants. flipflip -- flipflip Check out flipflip's 'SlimServer On DiskStation (SSODS)' (http://oinkzwurgl.org/software/ssods/)! flipflip's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
flipflip Wrote: > I reckon that the flash size has no influence on the performance. As far > as I know, it is used to store the boot loader, the kernel and an initrd > image. These will be loaded on boot and are not used for operation. But > I may be wrong about that. > > Btw, there is a beta release firmware for the DS-101 (version 366) > which does not use up memory for a ram disk anymore. So the full 64 MB > are available for programs. SS therefore runs rather well compared to a > DS-101j. The PPC models may still be faster, though. At least the 64MB > variants. > > flipflip Hi flipflip, I contacted Synology and asked them how big impact the memory had in terms of running a webserver for photosharing, additional to slimserver. They said that the 64Mb compare to 32Mb would only be usable if there are many different server connections (many people or processes that acces the server simultanisly). That question then was only related to the two PPC models 106e and 101g+. Regards Stefan -- Stefan71a Stefan71a's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6253 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
Okay, I agree. I think that a single httpd process can handle one connection and does not use a lot of ram. To serve static pages one probably needs very little ram. The main part of the process' ram is probably used by PHP et al. So, maybe 32 mb is enough for 10 (or so) connections, then 64 mb would be sufficient for 20 connections. Although if your PHP scripts use a lot of ram (i.e. to store lots of data in ram) the numbers will be different. Also, "too much" ram is not unused. It is used as cache and buffers (input/output, program execution, etc.). To conclude, I would go for a DS-106 or a DS-101g+. And if noise is an issue, then a DS-101. And if money does not matter, I would get a CS-406. :-) I still do not know if an arm or a ppc processor at the same MHz speed is more performant. The disk interface (SATA vs. IDE/ATA) probably has an influence on the performance as well. Especially if you use a database or read large junks of data from the disk in some way (swapping, searching data). flipflip -- flipflip Check out flipflip's 'SlimServer On DiskStation (SSODS)' (http://oinkzwurgl.org/software/ssods/)! flipflip's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
I think I made my conclustion also after comparing the download /upload speed between the 101g+ and the 106 model also attached the other models 101j and 106e. So it will be to order a DS-106 :) //Stefan Samba upload 101j~6.6 101g+ ~12.1 106e ~12 106~15.1 Samba download 101j ~7.2 101g+ ~14 106e ~24 106~24.4 FTP upload 101j~5.4 101g+ ~10.4 106e ~10.6 106~12.6 FTP download 101j ~11 101g+ ~27.5 106e ~35.5 106~38.2 -- Stefan71a Stefan71a's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6253 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
Certainly a good choice. Happy hacking! flip ;-) -- flipflip Check out flipflip's 'SlimServer On DiskStation (SSODS)' (http://oinkzwurgl.org/software/ssods/)! flipflip's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
Michaelwagner Wrote: > I went to the Synology web site, and there seems to be nowhere to buy > them in North America. > > Is that right? Hi Michael, Unless things have changed in the last month, there is a distributor in Canada, by the name of supercom. I had a hard time finding the retailers who use supercom, though, try bytewize computers. (or there were a couple other on-line only retailers - I can find the links if you like) Let me know how you make out - I'm still thinking about a DS in the back of my mind. Nick -- nicketynick Wireless SB3, Denon DRA-F101, Mission M31 loudspeakers WinXP SP2 Slimserver, SMC WBR14g router nicketynick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1511 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
Bytewise seems to have 101s only. -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
Hi All, I just purchased a Diskstation 106e (with a 250G Maxtor SATA HD) and a Squeezebox v3. After spending sometime I finally managed to get SSODS running (ssods-r1b3-ppc & Slimserver 6.3) on it smoothly. About the performance, other than the initial scanning media files process, the overall performance is quite good to me. I got 5000+ MP3/WMA music library and it took an hour to build up the database. I do feel it's a bit of slow when accsing the Slimserver using the browser but good enough to me. Playing music using Squeezebox is perfect, no jitting or any other problems related to server performance. The only problem is that the Squeezebox doesn't display Chinese characters, I am trying very hard to figure it out. -- hkpilot hkpilot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6287 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
Michaelwagner Wrote: > Bytewise seems to have 101s only. That's true. But from what I've read here the older product is actually a bit better (than the 101j)- 64MB vs 32MB, I figured it was generally as good a choice as any (on the low $$ end). I have a sinking feeling that there is nobody here currently dealing with Synology, so newer product is going to be harder to get. -- nicketynick Wireless SB3, Denon DRA-F101, Mission M31 loudspeakers WinXP SP2 Slimserver, SMC WBR14g router nicketynick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1511 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Somewhere on the web I read that they're easier to get in Canada than in the US. Sheesh! -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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I've got a 101j and a 101g both running SSODS. The both play music and browse folders just fine. I really can't tell any difference betwen them for general usage. OK, the scan of my 920 albums was a bit faster on the 101g but generally, you can't tell any difference. I also use the 101g to store SD MPEG2 video and connect via SMB to Zensonic Z500 NMP. I don't know of the 101j would be equal to that task. I'd love to use the 101j for this aspect also because it is much quieter than the 101g. Well, the unit is, the HDD is a different matter. -- rhubarbe rhubarbe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4973 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
Is it possible to get DS-106 direct from TW or HK (to Canada)? Otherwise, what's the best way to get it... from anywhere? -- 325xi 325xi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5661 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
In USA, Tigerdirect has 106e and 406: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?MfrId=2586&Nav=|c:16||c:207|&Sort=3&Recs=10 The more expensive Compuvest has 101j, 106e, 106 and 406: http://www.compuvest.com/Items.jsp?cid=446&sid=361&st=sell_price&dt=ASC&p0=Synology -- tommypeters tommypeters's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6528 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
tommypeters Wrote: > In USA, Tigerdirect has 106e and 406: > http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?MfrId=2586&Nav=|c:16||c:207|&Sort=3&Recs=10 > > The more expensive Compuvest has 101j, 106e, 106 and 406: > http://www.compuvest.com/Items.jsp?cid=446&sid=361&st=sell_price&dt=ASC&p0=Synology The 406 looks appetizing... But my understanding is that there is no way to get SlimServer running on it if I get it direct from TigerDirect? Anyone knows its performance numbers? -- 325xi 325xi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5661 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
Check http://oinkzwurgl.org/software/ssods/README.txt, section "Hardware". The CS is perfect for running SlimServer on it.. fast SATA disk interface, lots of memory (128 MB) and a rather fast CPU (400 MHz). Depending on the harddisks you use, it will be rather noisy, though. I suggest to use so called "streaming harddisks" (low RPM, optimized noise management). flip -- flipflip Check out flipflip's 'SlimServer On DiskStation (SSODS)' (http://oinkzwurgl.org/software/ssods/)! flipflip's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
Tigerdirect is a Canadian (and American I think) mail order computer dealer. I can't think of a way that Tigerdirect could make it unsuitable for SlimServer. There is another NAS, the Qnap, which needs special modifications from the supplier, FlipFlip: I think I'd say noise insulating *padding* rather than matting, but what you wrote is completely understandable. What would you call it in German? -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
In Canada I can find the DS106E http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2329540&CatId=207 at about 300 clams and the DS406 at 800 clams http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2329541&Tab=0&NoMapp=0 and a rack mounted 406 the RS406 at a grand http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2329543&CatId=207 -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
"GötterdämmerungLarmDämpfenBitumenAnstrichenTeppich"...? -- tommypeters tommypeters's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6528 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
tommypeters Wrote: > "GötterdämmerungLarmDämpfenBitumenAnstrichenTeppich"...? Nur als Wagnerian Opfer, uh, uh, Oper. -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
mherger Wrote: > Lärmdämmmatten *Lärm*? And not *Geräusch*? -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
mherger Wrote: > But that's quite off topic :-) True. I'll drop it now. -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
I've read some of theese threads (in English), and tried to conclude what I should buy... I've come to Squeezebox & Synology DS-101j (and reuse my Samsung SpinPoint T133, 300GB, IDE/ATA 133). As far as I've understood, it should be fairly easy to install SSODS which will feed the Squeezebox with mp3's (in total approx 15000-2 songs), and I can control the Squeezebox from the remote control or through a web interface. Everything running silently. Is this correct, or have I misunderstood something. Thanks in advance. Regards, Tomsi -- tomsi tomsi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7081 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
Yes, that is correct. Please consider that the 101j and the 106e have 32 MB of RAM where other models (101, 106) have 64 MB. More memory greatly increases the "speed" of the Squeezebox and the Slimserver. It does not affect playing or any functionality, but searching, browsing and especially the web interface will work much smoother (faster, quicker) on a 64 MB model. The 101 has also an IDE interface but is not sold anymore. It's even rather rarely sold on ebay et al. I would not recommend a 101j or a 101e from that point of view. The other models have SATA disk interfaces. You could put your harddisk into an usb enclosure and use that as a backup media (attached directly to the DS). Silence depends on the harddisk and where the box is. The 101 and the 101j do not have a ventilator and should therefore probably not be put into a cupboard (heat, convection). Then again, different harddisks produce more or less heat (as far as I know, the more GB, the hotter). The other DS models have a small ventilator. All DS models are rather silent, but you probably want to put it somewhere where noise does not matter (hallway, office, ..). "Ethernet over powerline" (devolo, netgear and other products) are a good way to connect the DS and the SB without additional cabling. A CS-406 (also Synology) is worth a look as well. It has a faster CPU (400 MHz, others: 266 MHz) and even more RAM (128 MB). The new CS-406e is 266 MHz and 64 MB. See also the README.txt of SSODS. flip -- flipflip Check out flipflip's 'SlimServer On DiskStation (SSODS)' (http://oinkzwurgl.org/software/ssods/)! flipflip's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
Hi, Performance is important, but I think the CS-406 is a little expensive for me. But how about the DS-106j? I couldn't find the memory on it (anyone knows?), but it supports IDE... Could that one be a way to go? Will ssods run smoothly on it? Regards, Tomsi -- tomsi tomsi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7081 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
Bloody Synology. How many different versions are they selling?! I didn't know about the 406e until this morning and about the 106j until right now! The Swiss importer (www.brack.ch) is usually rather precise about the specs (they test it, they do not just copy&paste). They say it's a 32 MB with a 200 MHz CPU. As I understand, "j" is "junior", i.e. IDE (and no eSATA) and 32 MB. "e" is "light", i.e. 32MB (and a few software features disabled). If performance is an issue and you have that many mp3s (bigger database to scan), I would recommend a 64 MB Diskstation, that is a DS-106. You could get a cheap small SATA disk and use your disk in an external USB enclosure. SS(ODS) could play the "external" files as well and the database would be on the internal disk. -- flipflip Check out flipflip's 'SlimServer On DiskStation (SSODS)' (http://oinkzwurgl.org/software/ssods/)! flipflip's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
flipflip Wrote: > Bloody Synology. How many different versions are they selling?! One per customer :-) -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
I'm looking for DS-106 in italy, i can't findone, so I've made some searchin europe. I've found a DS-106X here: http://www.brack.ch/aspx/Shop/lager.aspx?ArtID=36309 They say it's the best for SlimServer on Disk Station, with a link to this page: http://info.pcwebshop.ch/Erfahrungsberichte/ssods/index.htm Anyone know something about this model? I can't find anything on Synology web site. Regards Marco -- infundibolo infundibolo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7356 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
It is a limited special edition only available through brack.ch. AFAIK it's the same hardware as the 106 but with added RAM. Brack.ch tells me that they only deliver to Switzerland. There are some other online stores with brack.ch "behind" them, you can identify these as the have the very same product descriptions as on the brack.ch site. Maybe one of them sells this article as well and would deliver it abroad. But maybe they are not allowed to do so. I don't know. Try preissuchmaschine.ch et al. Or google.ch and the "Seiten aus der Schweiz" (sites from Switzerland) option. flip -- flipflip Check out flipflip's 'SlimServer On DiskStation (SSODS)' (http://oinkzwurgl.org/software/ssods/)! flipflip's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
How do they add RAM? I don't recall seeing any options for adding. Or did the manufacturer make a special run with different chips soldered in? -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
I do not know. Maybe different chips, maybe a new board layout. -- flipflip Check out flipflip's 'SlimServer On DiskStation (SSODS)' (http://oinkzwurgl.org/software/ssods/)! flipflip's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
Hi - I'm looking for a reassuring "yes" about the combination of Slimserver/CS-406, which is a lot cheaper and easier for me than ordering an Infrant from the US with everything ready-installed :) I'm not a unix guru or programmer but not an idiot either ;) (I have access to a unix guru if necessary.) Is this combination now well understood and will I be able to get Slimserver going easily enough if I buy the CS locally? (I live in Norway.) I currently have Slimserver runnning on an old PC that I want to throw out. It has a 250GB Maxtor Onetouch external drive attached, where about 16000 music tracks are located, IIRC about 160 GB. I want to install Slimserver 6.3 on the CS-406, then attach the Maxtor directly to it with USB, move all the files onto the CS. (If all goes well, I will also move about 2000 photos onto it.) I was just looking for a little reassurance, really :) I really want to do something like this, firstly to let me get rid of the old PC, secondly to give me some peace of mind about security of the music. Thanks! -- SteveC SteveC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=665 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
No problem at all with slimserver/CS 406. I own a CS406 and it's a perfect association; more, the SSODS (by flipflip) makes the installation of slimserver so easy... -- Chander Chander's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3691 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
Michael Herger Wrote: > It was really a question of uploading a "patch" using the diskstation's > web interface. Really? Is it that simple, to get it up and running for non-Linux/programming people? -- KBP KBP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5817 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
OK I will put in an order for the CS-406 locally (Norway). There are none in stock in anyNorwegian netshops until estimated 26. Sept so everybody seems to be waiting for the same shipment. Thanks for the reassurances :) -- SteveC SteveC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=665 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
KBP;137893 Wrote: > Really? Is it that simple, to get it up and running for > non-Linux/programming people? It indeed is :-) Check the README.txt on my homepage (see link in the signature below) to get the idea. Please not that I have not yet updated SSODS for SS 6.5. That's work in progress and should be finished rather soon (days). For now, use SS 6.3.1 with release 1 of SSODS. Regards, flip Thanks Michael for the nice words. Really, so far all complaints have proven as false alarms (at least those which got to me directly) :-) -- flipflip Check out flipflip's 'SlimServer On DiskStation (SSODS)' (http://oinkzwurgl.org/software/ssods/)! flipflip's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
SteveC;137919 Wrote: > OK I will put in an order for the CS-406 locally (Norway). There are > none in stock in anyNorwegian netshops until estimated 26. Sept so > everybody seems to be waiting for the same shipment. Thanks for the > reassurances :) What prices do they go for in Norway? Here in Denmark it is like this: http://edbpriser.dk/Products/Listprices.asp?ID=217743 -- KBP KBP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5817 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
Hi, For those interested, the DS-101j can be found in France, sometimes under a different name, for example "SohoNAS" at the following URL : http://www.macway.com/fr/path/1/stockage/5/disque-dur-reseau-nas.html -- vro75 vro75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7639 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
Canadians looking for a DS101 should note that one is available on eBay.ca at the moment. http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=005&item=150038957748&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
FlipFlip: I think I'd say noise insulating *padding* rather than matting, but what you wrote is completely understandable. Lärmdämmmatten (boah! German's just great for catenating words), or simply "Dämmungsmatte" or "Dämmmatte" (yes, 3xm). -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the StringEditor Plugin (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
Lärmdämmmatten *Lärm*? And not *Geräusch*? Yes, that's the first expression I've found. "Lärm" and "Geräusch" both stand for "noise". While "Geräusch" is rather neutral, I'd consider "Lärm" negative. Dealers selling those pads might think we don't like our machine's noise. But that's quite off topic :-) -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
Is this combination now well understood and will I be able to get Slimserver going easily enough if I buy the CS locally? (I live in Norway.) I would say: yes. I don't own a diskstation, but got hands on a friend's machine. It was really a question of uploading a "patch" using the diskstation's web interface. I have read quite a few positive feedbacks about SSODS, but very little complaints or problem reports. -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Which Disk Station is best for running slimserver (SSODS)?
Really? Is it that simple, to get it up and running for non-Linux/programming people? Yes. No need to fiddle with the shell. -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
