Re: [slim] 6.5.2 with old slimdevices logo
I have my slimserver installed under a separate 'slimserver' user for security. Just replace the first 'slimserver' with whatever username you installed under... /slimserver/Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/HTML/EN/html/images/slimdevices_logo.gif -- kefa Mac OS X 10.4.8, Slimserver 6.5.0, Netgear DG834GT fw V1.02.04 Squeezebox 3 fw 64, Primare SPA20, Monitor Audio GR20 Squeezebox 2 fw 64, Denon UD-M30 SoftSqueeze, Cyrus 3, Monitor Audio R90 kefa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=421 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.5.2 with old slimdevices logo
Does anyone no where I can find slimdevices_logo.gif on max os x? Mike -- MikeSB MikeSB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.5.2 with old slimdevices logo
I've been considering purchasing a Transporter but contrary to some points of view brand is very imporant but why pay for a brand or more accurately why pay a premium price for a brand? There must be something that provides the purchaser with something more than just the product? Although I want what I believe is the best it has to have to be at the right price. $2000 for a Slim Device Transporter is a lot of money but $2000 for a Logitech Transporter is excessive. This has nothing to do with Logitech as a company it's consumer preference. That's my view and like all consumers I can always vote with my wallet. I can see the rational for the standard SB but the Transporter is something else, it's a niche market product so why not exploit this. -- Keith Keith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=460 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.5.2 with old slimdevices logo
It's all a matter of perception (mktg says of positioning). Yes, individual perception but you have some rules. First, what do you want to sell? Do you want to sell some sort of feelings/imaginations/vibrations? Do you want to sell a product? Do you want to sell both? (Yes, there are more.) Have a look at some oil companies. They try to connect both of them. At first glance absurd. But they do this to avoid bad reputation. And in that they succeed. Have a look at the structure of Logitech. They sell cheap and good stuff. They are known for being reliable at an affordable price. The Transporter will be their premium product. And to sell that product they have to change the customer's perception regarding Logitech. There are few people that will buy that product because it's manufactured by Logitech. They will think what's that?. If they can get something similar they may buy it from a company with more reputation in manufacturing expensive stuff. If they can sell more Transporters ... we will see. But it is good for the Squeezebox. This is a segment where they are nearly in. But that will be hard because of the Squeezebox' price. Have a look at the price of the Pinnacle box. And Pinnacle has a pretty good reputation in that segment. I think it was no good idea to remove the SlimDevices references. They should have been using that up to the point where they can savely transition from SlimDevices to Logitech. Because they now have the power to push the SlimDevices products to new hights (but that needs invests). I see that -here in Germany- nobody knows about SlimDevices. If you pushed SlimDevices they appear new to the market and people get curious and are willing to try the new star (powered by Logitech's marketing/money in the background). But if they see Logitech they will think puhh, what a price from such a company. Logitech must tell them that they have bought a great company with lots of know-how and that they can do these things now. But if they tell them (in Germany) that the name of that company was SlimDevices ... We will see. I won't say that the decision to be part of Logitech was a bad decision. Maybe they have more money and power to do even better development now. But if it's true that the lead developer has left the company... We had similar occurrences. When we grew larger some people have left the company because it was not the same as before. Those guys are simply not willing to do the change and see the change as a chance for the company and themselves. But there are others that see the chances. Yes, some sort of spirit may get lost and we may notice that (even if we should not). There is one thing I'm afraid of. Logitech might push SlimDevice's products into the mass market (like Media Markt / Saturn here in Germany). If they do not get the fast ROI they may get disappointed and can react like other large companies do: they push away SlimDevices or finish selling their products. Something we all have seen several times. And if you have the shareholders breathing down your neck... -slutz -- slutz slutz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11171 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.5.2 with old slimdevices logo
that -here in Germany- nobody knows about SlimDevices. If you pushed German's leading computer magazine c't has been writing about SliMP3 four years ago (and ever since when there was a new product): SlimDevices hat seinen SliMP3 konsequent auf das Display reduziert. Seine Stärke ist das durchdachte Zusammenspiel von Fernbedienung, flexiblem Webinterface und großzügiger Anzeige. (c't 8/03, p.106ff) Maybe they have more money and power to do even better development now. They now have the means to hire developers world-wide. Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.5.2 with old slimdevices logo
After the 6.5.2 upgrade, I'm sure the SB3 is blinking subliminal messages when playing...You love Logitech over and over :( -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.5.2 with old slimdevices logo
Yes, four years ago. And try to get one here. Some say on stock but they aren't. And even worse, they tell you to try Noxon et al. And if you ask other renowned dealers they don't even know SlimDevices. They only know Noxon and Soundbridge. You have to know about the existance of the Squeezebox. Otherwise you will be stuck with the other stuff. Have you seen a review in German magazines as a follow-up to the merger? I did not but in the past I have focussed on Spiegel ;-) -- slutz slutz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11171 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.5.2 with old slimdevices logo
autopilot;204788 Wrote: ...And make sure you don't let the kids who designed the Harmony remote pages anywhere near slimserver... Couldn't agree more. They're embarrassingly bad. -- LewisT LewisT's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.5.2 with old slimdevices logo
You guys sure have limited imaginations. It's a freakin' .gif file ferchrissakes! Put your own picture in there. Put a picture of your dog/cat/hamster/milk snake/rabbit/etc. in there. Use an animated .gif. Pod people cad put an apple logo in there and confuse the heck out of their pod-people friends. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.5.2 with old slimdevices logo
Chris Laplante;204652 Wrote: He is no doubt merciless in business and I am sure has ruined his share of lives in doing so, but he has done a hell of allot of good with their foundation. I believe it is one of the largest foundations out there when combined with Warren Buffet. What evil thing's are they doing with that foundation? -Chris On 5/25/07, James_B James_B.2r5tan1180131001 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com wrote: Big hi-tec companies do bad things with their profits. Just look at Microsoft´s Bill Gates. Plus Logitech spy on you through their webcams and touch you up with their mice. -- James_B James_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11309 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35578 I was being a tad ironic and so would freely acknowldege Bill Gates is - as yet - trailing Messieurs Mao, Stalin, Hitler and Pol Pot. As for Logitech´s webcams I stick by my guns and lets just say unplugging them at night is not enough.. Logitech QuickCam Communicate STX Plus Clove of garlic Stake at the ready -- James_B James_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11309 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.5.2 with old slimdevices logo
I can see a merger with microsoft in the offing, the dark side must stick together! -- Steven Moore Steven Moore's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=104 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.5.2 with old slimdevices logo
I love to hate big oil, big tobacco, big music streaming :) -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.5.2 with old slimdevices logo
I have found out (the hard way) that right-clicking the logo top left on this forum and saving to the C drive (overwriting the nasty logitech one) results in a rubbish-looking small logo. If anyone wants to post a link to the proper logo, please feel free... :) Adam -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others http://www.last.fm/user/AdamSlim/ 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+don%27t+listen+to+any+of+last.fm%27s+top+artists) SB+, EAR 859, Living Voice Auditorium II plus some other stuff SB3, Shek d2, Ming-Da MC84-C, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.5.2 with old slimdevices logo
adamslim;204718 Wrote: I have found out (the hard way) that right-clicking the logo top left on this forum and saving to the C drive (overwriting the nasty logitech one) results in a rubbish-looking small logo. If anyone wants to post a link to the proper logo, please feel free... :) Remember, Slimserver is open source with a publicly readable version control repository, so... http://svn.slimdevices.com/trunk/server/HTML/EN/html/images/slimdevices_logo.gif?view=log (and, no, I'm not going to bother replacing mine even though I do still think Slim Devices is a better brand than Logitech; e.g., Lexus, Craftsman) -Peter -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim BlankSaver BottleRocket FuzzyTime SaverSwitcher SleepFade StatusFirst VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.5.2 with old slimdevices logo
Keeping it real :) +---+ |Filename: slimdevices_logo.gif | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2869| +---+ -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.5.2 with old slimdevices logo
JimC;204629 Wrote: Drats! You've seen through our evil plan, but it is too late! We've already made everyone dress in suits and ties, inserted RFID devices in the backs of their skulls, and forced them wear silly party hats while working. Resistance is futile! Jim Cog in the Machine Carlton Borg of Product Marketing LOL, nice sarcasm. But i'm not saying you are evil, or good, just that you have a very different ethos. Just like Apple and Microsoft. You can't act surprised if people who have spent a lot of their hard earned money on products that are suddenly owned and supported by a firm that work and think in a different way have some worries. But i personally remain optimistic as it goes. There are different ways to make money, you have always aimed at a different market. I just hope you realise why the SB3 is the most popular streamer, and don't just want to rape the name. :) The fact that you are on these forum listening to people bodes well though. Just don't get rid of the wiki and forums, the Logitech support/FAQ board system is pants :~) No, your not evil. Not Darth Vader evil, although you did unleash SetPoint onto the world, so not too far off. And make sure you don't let the kids who designed the Harmony remote pages anywhere near slimserver. Keep up the good/evil [delete as appropriate] work. Cheers :) /ducks... -- autopilot *SlimServer:* 6.5.1 (Windows XP) + AlienBBC, SlimScrobbler Last.FM. *Amp:* Cambridge Audio 640a (living room) / Denon MD30 (bedroom). *Speakers:* Mission 701's (living room) / Kef Cresta 1's (bedroom). *Remote:* T-Mobile MDA Vario / Sony PSP / Nokia N95 / Harmony 525 (IR). *Clients:* 1 Squeezebox 3 + Softsqueeze. 'LAST.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/domrevans/) autopilot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.5.2 with old slimdevices logo
amcluesent;204749 Wrote: Keeping it real :) Cheers mate, pollution removed. After all, I'm hardly going to deed poll myself just to keep up with my devices :) Adam -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others http://www.last.fm/user/AdamSlim/ 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+don%27t+listen+to+any+of+last.fm%27s+top+artists) SB+, EAR 859, Living Voice Auditorium II plus some other stuff SB3, Shek d2, Ming-Da MC84-C, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.5.2 with old slimdevices logo
peterw;204726 Wrote: Remember, Slimserver is open source with a publicly readable version control repository, so... http://svn.slimdevices.com/trunk/server/HTML/EN/html/images/slimdevices_logo.gif?view=log (and, no, I'm not going to bother replacing mine even though I do still think Slim Devices is a better brand than Logitech; e.g., Lexus, Craftsman) -Peter Wow. When I saw this thread I assumed it would be the Slim Devices | A Logitech Company logo as on http://www.slimdevices.com/, in which case I'd probably not have bothered to switch. But the full-on Logitech is too much change for me, so I'll probably be among those to switch the logo back when I upgrade. I seem to remember Slim Devices being labeled a wholly owned subsidiary back when this was announced, which one would think would include retaining some measure of branding. But maybe I'm just mixing that up with the recent Microsoft acquisition of TellMe (which is definitely a subsidiary). -- eq72521 eq72521's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1512 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.5.2 with old slimdevices logo
On 5/25/07, stoffel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flame me for still thinking that converting to the logitech brand was a bad move... I think it's obvious that you have no choice but to sell your hardware, most likely at a huge loss because the circuitry has 'gone logitech', and never return. It's the only sane choice. Ben ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.5.2 with old slimdevices logo
Ben Sandee;204474 Wrote: I think it's obvious that you have no choice but to sell your hardware, most likely at a huge loss because the circuitry has 'gone logitech', and never return. It's the only sane choice. But don't advertise it using your real name - think of the shame you'll bring on your family. -- bonze QNAP TS-101 (version 2.0.1 build 0302T) SlimServer Version: 6.5.1 - 11206 - Debian - EN - utf8 2 x wireless SB3 Player Firmware Version: 81 bonze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6150 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.5.2 with old slimdevices logo
Hey! It's a SLIMDEVICES logo!! Yeah, me to - I don't like the logitech logo, I'll copy that sucker in. Going to 6.5.2 did sort out all sort of 'artist' wrong count issues tho - but some still remain. ~AlZ -- alZmtbr alZmtbr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.5.2 with old slimdevices logo
I have been pondering, is it possible for a large computer/electronics/anything company to be large and people _NOT_ think they are evil? What has logitech done that makes them _so_ bad? I have not bought their products in years (just b/c I did not need any) but I seem to remember their mice and trackballs being well constructed. -Chris On 5/25/07, alZmtbr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey! It's a SLIMDEVICES logo!! Yeah, me to - I don't like the logitech logo, I'll copy that sucker in. Going to 6.5.2 did sort out all sort of 'artist' wrong count issues tho - but some still remain. ~AlZ -- alZmtbr alZmtbr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.5.2 with old slimdevices logo
Because people who buy Squeezeboxes like to think they're clever in having found such a great gadget, and it being made by a small company adds to this; having say an amplifier with an obscure name on it has much more kudos than one that says 'Panasonic'; it says here goes someone who really knows their stuff, and has hunted out technical quality rather than buying the first box they saw. If that amp says 'logitech' then it says this box is nothing special - it's made by the same people who made your 5 dollar mouse. Whether that is right or wrong is a different question entirely, and we'll hvae to wait a year or two to find out. -- mecouc mecouc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=227 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.5.2 with old slimdevices logo
mecouc;204599 Wrote: Because people who buy Squeezeboxes like to think they're clever in having found such a great gadget, and it being made by a small company adds to this; having say an amplifier with an obscure name on it has much more kudos than one that says 'Panasonic'; it says here goes someone who really knows their stuff, and has hunted out technical quality rather than buying the first box they saw. If that amp says 'logitech' then it says this box is nothing special - it's made by the same people who made your 5 dollar mouse. Whether that is right or wrong is a different question entirely, and we'll hvae to wait a year or two to find out. Nail.on.head. -- autopilot *SlimServer:* 6.5.1 (Windows XP) + AlienBBC, SlimScrobbler Last.FM. *Amp:* Cambridge Audio 640a (living room) / Denon MD30 (bedroom). *Speakers:* Mission 701's (living room) / Kef Cresta 1's (bedroom). *Remote:* T-Mobile MDA Vario / Sony PSP / Nokia N95 / Harmony 525 (IR). *Clients:* 1 Squeezebox 3 + Softsqueeze. 'LAST.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/domrevans/) autopilot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.5.2 with old slimdevices logo
Big hi-tec companies do bad things with their profits. Just look at Microsoft´s Bill Gates. Plus Logitech spy on you through their webcams and touch you up with their mice. -- James_B James_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11309 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.5.2 with old slimdevices logo
autopilot;204620 Wrote: No matter what we think, the development of the SB range will be going somewhere else that it would have been with Slim Devices. Drats! You've seen through our evil plan, but it is too late! We've already made everyone dress in suits and ties, inserted RFID devices in the backs of their skulls, and forced them wear silly party hats while working. Resistance is futile! Jim Cog in the Machine Carlton Borg of Product Marketing -- JimC JimC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.5.2 with old slimdevices logo
He is no doubt merciless in business and I am sure has ruined his share of lives in doing so, but he has done a hell of allot of good with their foundation. I believe it is one of the largest foundations out there when combined with Warren Buffet. What evil thing's are they doing with that foundation? -Chris On 5/25/07, James_B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Big hi-tec companies do bad things with their profits. Just look at Microsoft´s Bill Gates. Plus Logitech spy on you through their webcams and touch you up with their mice. -- James_B James_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11309 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.5.2 with old slimdevices logo
On 25-May-07, at 6:58 PM, Chris Laplante wrote: He is no doubt merciless in business and I am sure has ruined his share of lives in doing so, but he has done a hell of allot of good with their foundation. I believe it is one of the largest foundations out there when combined with Warren Buffet. What evil thing's are they doing with that foundation? There is always something revealed by google... http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/09/1455200 you did ask. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.5.2 with old slimdevices logo
Don't kid yourself. All big companies are evil. That's how they get big. Small ones are evil, too. No matter how they present themselves in their carefully crafted marketing materials, their relationship with their customers is about one thing only- money. Companies are not your friends. They don't care about you. They aren't capable of caring about you. This applies whether you are a customer or an employee. Decisions at companies are made based on money and only money. As a customer you have to decide if the evil company's product is worth the sacrifice of your hard-inherited cash. If the product does what you want at a price you are willing to pay, buy it. If it doesn't, don't. Nevermind that the company that makes it is evil. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
