Re: [slim] Duet Controller or Nokia N770?
bklaas;280805 Wrote: I believe what signor_rossi is asking for is a bit beyond connecting to the stream.mp3. Squeezeplay is the software interface that powers the SBC, so think SBC on the Nokia. Once Squeezeplay can stream audio in the somewhat near future, it could also makes a Nokia tablet a real player. stream.mp3 has horrible buffer lag, so that would be a massive improvement from what's possible today. All of this sounds quite cool, but it's not possible right now. It is theoretically possible, but no one has done the work. It'd be a lot of work too. cheers, #!/ben Exactly what I was asking for. Besides the buffer lag the N770 has an headphone out that produces to much static to be enjoyable. I thought to try out a Vmware image for N770 development to get an idea about the tasks that would be necessary, but didn't come far since I couldn't get to work it properly on my Ubuntu box (some vmware module problem). Maybe I will try the image again under Xp some time. Bye, signor_rossi. -- signor_rossi signor_rossi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11941 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44902 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet Controller or Nokia N770?
)p(;280991 Wrote: I am still very happy with using a n800 with moose through remote desktop. The library selection experience is just as fast as with moose on a desktop computer. The n800 is connected 24h through remote desktop to the server so its always instant on ready to use. I am going to try the duet controller soon but I suspect I won't be willing to give up the large touchscreen of the n800. We'll see ;) peter I did something similar prior to my SB3 purchase, I used VNC and Amarok and a long audio cable ;) , but since Moose is Windows only unfortunately I can't use it with my Ubuntu server box. I did try Squeezeplay over VNC and also used xmodmap to map the N770 hardware keys accordingly, but at this time Squeezeplay still lacks mouse support, so browsing is quite tedious and text input is even more. Depending how the SP developer chooses to do text input in newer versions this may improve dramatically, though. The screen shots on the wiki for the new SP UI look quite good already. Bye, signor_rossi. -- signor_rossi signor_rossi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11941 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44902 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet Controller or Nokia N770?
)p(;281083 Wrote: Yeah squeezeplay could grow into a great alternative for moose through remote desktop or vnc. (Running a nxxx native port might also work but I suspect it will be slower then using remote desktop.) Just note that the only one allowed to distribute a nxxx native port of SqueezePlay is Logitech, the license forbids any third party to distribute it without permission from Logitech: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41672 -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44902 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet Controller or Nokia N770?
I would say that I am uniquely qualified to answer your question, as the developer of the Nokia770 skin as well as being now on the SBC development team. In short: it is my belief that you will be much, much more satisfied with the SBC than a 770 running my skin. This is especially true with the latency issues you experience on the 770. But you know...it's not necessary to take what I say as gospel. There is a 30-day satisfaction guarantee on the Duet, so buy it and give it a shot. I feel confident that you will not want to return it. cheers, #!/ben -- bklaas the Nokia770 skin guy http://www.last.fm/user/bklaas/ bklaas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44902 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet Controller or Nokia N770?
kkitts;280755 Wrote: BTW, I had a Nokia 770 - but it expereinced something that people on the internet of called the WSOD (White screen of Death). After waiting 3 weeks for a repair, Nokia finally agreed to send me a refurbished N800. Are the latency issues a bit less with the N800 than the N770? Also, does the N770 skin work in both SlimServer 6.54 and Squeezecenter 7? Finally, where can you download the Nokia 770 skin from? I looked in the Plugins page of the slimdevices.com website - but I don't see it there. Kevin The N800 has some enhancements to the wifi that allow it to connect more reliably and quicker, as well as coming out of sleep in a much smoother fashion. So, if that's what you're referring to by latency issues, yes the N800 is better. It's also quicker in general, and the new OS2008, which the N800 will run but the 770 will not, is superior IMO. N770 skin is available in SS 6.54 and SC 7.0. The skin in 7.0 has some nice enhancements though, cataloged here: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?TouchNokia770ss7Enhancements There is nothing to download, in both products the skin is part of the core distribution. Append the URL for the webUI with /nokia770/ and you're in business. #!/ben -- bklaas the Nokia770 skin guy http://www.last.fm/user/bklaas/ bklaas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44902 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet Controller or Nokia N770?
Just out of interest (and also because my budget for audio products is still depleted after I bought a new amplifier, new speakers for me and my mom, the SB3, an external DAC and also quite some music last year): Does someone have the knowledge to estimate how much effort it would be to port Squeezeplay to the N770 or N8x0s, if this is possible at all? Thanks, signor_rossi. -- signor_rossi signor_rossi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11941 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44902 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet Controller or Nokia N770?
BTW, I had a Nokia 770 - but it expereinced something that people on the internet of called the WSOD (White screen of Death). After waiting 3 weeks for a repair, Nokia finally agreed to send me a refurbished N800. Are the latency issues a bit less with the N800 than the N770? Also, does the N770 skin work in both SlimServer 6.54 and Squeezecenter 7? Finally, where can you download the Nokia 770 skin from? I looked in the Plugins page of the slimdevices.com website - but I don't see it there. Kevin -- kkitts kkitts's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1993 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44902 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet Controller or Nokia N770?
I don't have the 770 in front of me at the moment - and can't quite recall how I did it. But I was able to start the media player on the 770 and connect to the stream of the SlimServer. And then use the web browser built into the 770 to connect to SlimServer, select the 770 from the web drop down list - and then select music to play. It all worked very well - of course - not quite as seemless has just having 1 app do it all. Also, I did this inside my firewall - never tried to set up a ssh tunnel to do this from outside my house... Kevin -- kkitts kkitts's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1993 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44902 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet Controller or Nokia N770?
kkitts;280779 Wrote: I don't have the 770 in front of me at the moment - and can't quite recall how I did it. There's a good explanation here about halfway down the page: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?SlimserverAndNokia770 -- Siduhe Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44902 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet Controller or Nokia N770?
I believe what signor_rossi is asking for is a bit beyond connecting to the stream.mp3. Squeezeplay is the software interface that powers the SBC, so think SBC on the Nokia. Once Squeezeplay can stream audio in the somewhat near future, it could also makes a Nokia tablet a real player. stream.mp3 has horrible buffer lag, so that would be a massive improvement from what's possible today. All of this sounds quite cool, but it's not possible right now. It is theoretically possible, but no one has done the work. It'd be a lot of work too. cheers, #!/ben -- bklaas the Nokia770 skin guy http://www.last.fm/user/bklaas/ bklaas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44902 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet Controller or Nokia N770?
bklaas;280722 Wrote: I would say that I am uniquely qualified to answer your question, as the developer of the Nokia770 skin as well as being now on the SBC development team. In short: it is my belief that you will be much, much more satisfied with the SBC than a 770 running my skin. This is especially true with the latency issues you experience on the 770. You are indeed uniquely qualified to answer the question, but you are also hopelessly conflicted. I am neither, but agree with your answer completely :) I started a poll ages ago on Nokia 770 vs iPhone vs SBC; I used to think that the iPhone was better than the SBC, but recent (3-4 weeks ago) advances on the SBC have totally reversed that. The Nokia 770 is not close to either. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44902 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
