Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
I have my entire library showing up twice, for some reason slimserver says i have two of every album. Why is that?? -- jdulltasha jdulltasha's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14109 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
@slimpy: because i expect slimdevices to be BETTER than apple! ;-) -- dcote dcote's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
jdulltasha;244706 Wrote: I have my entire library showing up twice, for some reason slimserver says i have two of every album. Why is that?? No idea. You might want to give a bit more information Slimserver version, operating system, file types... Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
jdulltasha;244706 Wrote: I vote for fixing this I have my entire library showing up twice, for some reason slimserver says i have two of every album. Why is that?? Does every track show up twice or are tracks split into two albums? What makes you think that this is related to dcote's issue? -s. -- slimpy slimpy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1524 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
hi! since i copied my GFs iTunes repository from her iBook - about 30. some of those show up 15x. her iTunes is organized by artist, that is just the way it is. slimpy, i am not trying to discuss who is smart or not, i am just making a point that there are a significant amount of people (heck, i didnt even start this thread, i just jumped on it!) who feel this behavior is strange. i found ~10 bugs reported in bugzilla that relate to this problem, (none of them from me, btw) so at least some people are bugged by it (no pun intended ;-). that is why i did not file a bug, but an enhancement request. and it contains a suggestion to add a control which will let you choose squeezecenter's behavior. that way you can be happy and me too! :-) -- dcote dcote's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
dcote;244553 Wrote: that way you can be happy and me too! :-) No, you can be happy but not me. The problem with such a setting is that it makes it even more complicated to do proper support in case of problems. I've been answering questions regarding compilations and the like for quite some time now. I can assure you that the switch to the current behaviour with less settings has made it a lot easier to explain to people how they can get their intended behaviour. dcote;244553 Wrote: since i copied my GFs iTunes repository from her iBook - about 30. some of those show up 15x. her iTunes is organized by artist, that is just the way it is. That's not that many. If you had taken the time to move all of them into their own directory this thread would have found an end a long time ago. It's a matter of maybe 30 minutes with any decent tagging software! iTunes doesn't force you into a strict organization by artist. It's not just the way it is. Why do you accept iTunes behaviour as a given but stubbornly refuse to accept slimserver's behaviour? -s. -- slimpy slimpy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1524 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
yes, i understand how, but still not why. but please bear with me! :-) ever since i imported my GF's iTunes music repository from her iBook, i have albums showing up 10 times or more!? iTune's directory schema: .\artist\album\track example: .\artist A\black soul\track.mp3 .\artist B\black soul\track.mp3 .\artist C\black soul\track.mp3 (10x) .\artist J\black soul\track.mp3 result when i browse albums: black soul black soul black soul (10x) black soul and it is THE SAME album. this makes it impossible to add the album black soul in its entirety to the playlist. surely that is not intentional? btw. snarlydwarf: we went through great pains to ensure our album tagging is 100% unique. there are NO duplicate album names in our repository. since it seems most of you seem to feel this is a feature, i will file a new feature /change request, instead of a bug report. ;-) -- dcote dcote's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
discovered that slimserver is working as designed: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4150 :-( filed an enhancement request at: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/votes.cgi?action=show_bugbug_id=6208 hope my request will make everyone happy - the ones who LIKE the directory idea and those who dont. ;-) anyone interested in getting this fixed/changed, please vote for it! :-) -- dcote dcote's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
dcote;244385 Wrote: yes, i understand how, but still not why. I'm not sure you do. dcote;244385 Wrote: but please bear with me! :-) ever since i imported my GF's iTunes music repository from her iBook, i have albums showing up 10 times or more!? iTune's directory schema: .\artist\album\track example: .\artist A\black soul\track.mp3 .\artist B\black soul\track.mp3 .\artist C\black soul\track.mp3 (10x) .\artist J\black soul\track.mp3 result when i browse albums: black soul black soul black soul (10x) black soul and it is THE SAME album. this makes it impossible to add the album black soul in its entirety to the playlist. surely that is not intentional? AFAIK even iTunes has abolished the strict artist/album/title structure when dealing with compilations and now uses for those something like compilations/album/title dcote;244385 Wrote: btw. snarlydwarf: we went through great pains to ensure our album tagging is 100% unique. there are NO duplicate album names in our repository. Most people's albums are not 100% unique. Why? Because there are different albums by different artists with the same name out there in the real world. For all those ambiguous cases slimserver cannot just rely on tags alone. Otherwise the three albums in snarlydwarf's example would appear as one. dcote;244385 Wrote: since it seems most of you seem to feel this is a feature, i will file a new feature /change request, instead of a bug report. ;-) Yeah, really smart. Handling of compilations has been discussed at least a million times in the last couple of years. A lot of people have thought about it for a very long time. The behaviour has been changed more than once. What we have today is a solution that -works for most users -doesn't need many user settings -is easy to support There are always trade-offs and you can't keep everyone happy. BTW, how many albums of yours are actually affected (appear multiple times)? -s. -- slimpy slimpy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1524 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
hi guys! why does everybody seem to think my directory structure is at fault? ;-) honestly, i think a file's location should be totally irrelevant to how often it shows up in slimserver's DB. or maybe someone could help me understand the reason why slimserver behaves that way? design? bad thinking? bug? i am considering reporting this as a bug. oddly enough, the directory structure has an impact on another topic: albumart. see: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40257 -- dcote dcote's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
Do these tracks belong to the same album? title: Girassol artist: Cidade Negra album: Acústico MTV track: 1 title: Hoje eu quero sair sóartist: Lenine album: Acústico MTV track: 2 How do you know? How would SlimServer know? Are they on the same album as this? title: No seu lugar artist: Kid Abelha album: Acústico MTV track: 3 How do you know? How would SlimServer know? And on a different note, what about these two tracks: are they on the same album or not? How do you know? How would SlimServer know? title: Maria Moita artist: Carlos Lyra album: Bossa Cuca Nova: Revisited Classics track: 1 title: Meditacaoartist: Wanda Sá album: Bossa Cuca Nova: Revisited Classics track: 2 The most obvious method of distinguishing the grouping of the above is to compare the directory. The first three, for the record, are in three different directories: they are 3 different albums. The last two are in the same directory, they are on the same album. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
hi slimpy! are you serious? hope not... ;-) what you are saying implies that any directory structure which separates tracks from one album will cause that album to show up multiple times? please confirm for me these two examples: 1. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40070 ben and i both are seeing multiple albums after integrating an itunes library organized by artist: \artist\album\track.mp3 if i understand you correctly, we have to re-organize our directory structures? if so: not nice. for me at least, it is tough work, because the filenames are incomplete and i would have to rebuild those too. 2. before i integrated itunes, my directory structure was: \music\FLAC\album.tracknumber.artist.trackname.flac \music\ogg-vorbis\album.tracknumber.artist.trackname.ogg some tracks i ripped in flac for quality, some in vorbis for space. albums with mixed formats indeed show up twice. seems to be a variation of the same problem above. -- dcote dcote's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
dcote;242858 Wrote: hi slimpy! what you are saying implies that any directory structure which separates tracks from one album will cause that album to show up multiple times? First of all I wonder why you would want to put tracks from 1 album into multiple directories. Sounds like a very weird way of structuring your tracks. But I would be surprised to that SS takes the directories into account. Have you tried/checked that all tracks have the same ALBUM and ALBUMARTIST/BAND tags ? -- Squid Squid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9073 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
dcote;242858 Wrote: are you serious? hope not... ;-) Dead serious. dcote;242858 Wrote: what you are saying implies that any directory structure which separates tracks from one album will cause that album to show up multiple times? Certainly if the tracks are by different artists (compilations). I'm not sure what the behaviour is if you have tracks from single-artist albums in different directories. Probably nobody does this deliberately anyway. You can have multi-disk albums in different directories if they have a common artist and the DISC tag is set. Renaming the files from the tags isn't that hard (if your tags are correct, that is). Any decent tagging program should be able to do this in one go. But backup first, just in case. I don't know iTunes so I can't comment on any iTunes related problems. I think I've read about albums being split when using different formats within the same album but as I only have single format albums I can't give you a definitive answer. -s. -- slimpy slimpy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1524 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
Squid wrote: First of all I wonder why you would want to put tracks from 1 album into multiple directories. Sounds like a very weird way of structuring your tracks. When I rip CDs with bonus tracks, I put the bonus tracks in a subdir named Bonus. That way they're available, but they don't get in the way when I just want to listed to the original album. - Marc ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] duplicate albums when id3 tags are correct; directory issue?
Yuo need to move all compilation tracks into the same directory. Slimserver can't just group songs with the same album name together, otherwise it would treat albums with the same name but by different artists as compilations. Easytag should be able to list your files by album. Then use the scanner function to change the file paths. -s. -- slimpy slimpy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1524 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
