Re: [discuss] security

2009-12-16 Thread Uwe Fischer

On 12/15/09 17:16, elisa bucci wrote:

To Whom It May Concern-
 I have had OpenOffice for four months. I would like to know if Open Office is 
compatible with Microsoft concerning security. If not how do I make it secure.
Sincerely,
Elisa Bucci



Hi Elisa,

you can find some blogs on OpenOffice.org and security here: 
http://search.sun.com/blogs/index.jsp?weblog=oootnt&qt=security


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Re: [discuss] Re: security

2009-12-16 Thread Barbara Duprey

John Thompson wrote:

On 2009-12-15, elisa bucci  wrote:

  
I have had OpenOffice for four months. I would like to know if Open 
Office is compatible with Microsoft concerning security. If not how do 
I make it secure.



What manner of security are are referring to? If password-protected 
documents, OOo is superior to Microsoft in that area, but due to the 
proprietary nature of Microsoft's products OOo cannot legally implement 
a means of opening protected MS-Office files (there are numerous 
stand-alone utilities for this, however). If something else, 
what exactly?


Elisa (ebuc...@yahoo.com) does not seem to be subscribed to the list and 
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Re: [discuss] security

2009-12-16 Thread Barbara Duprey

Uwe Fischer wrote:

On 12/15/09 17:16, elisa bucci wrote:

To Whom It May Concern-
 I have had OpenOffice for four months. I would like to know if Open 
Office is compatible with Microsoft concerning security. If not how 
do I make it secure.

Sincerely,
Elisa Bucci



Hi Elisa,

you can find some blogs on OpenOffice.org and security here: 
http://search.sun.com/blogs/index.jsp?weblog=oootnt&qt=security


Uwe


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Re: [discuss] Moderator-Forced Unsubscribes

2009-12-16 Thread Frank Schoenheit, Sun Microsystems Germany
Hi Barbara,

> So far, I've seen no evidence that anybody actually monitors the 
> users-owner account.  Hmm .. maybe we can petition to have Paul be the 
> list owner? :-)

If he volunteers, this can be done. Just verified with Martin
Hollmichel: The currently-set owner is not active anymore, so he asked
who else we should set up as owner.

Opinions?

Ciao
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Re: [discuss] Re: OpenOffice and Windows 7

2009-12-16 Thread gibi (gilles bignebat)

Gordon a écrit :

On 14/12/2009 20:04, ad...@web.de wrote:

Hallo,

I want to start working with the OpenOffice-Software.
Could someone tell me, if the current version
already runs on Windows 7??

Thank you in advance



Yes, runs just fine.

No issues regarding network share access, system File picker, meta-data 
overview in the explorer and all that sort of things?


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[discuss] Re: OpenOffice and Windows 7

2009-12-16 Thread Gordon
gibi (gilles bignebat) wrote:
> Gordon a écrit :
>> On 14/12/2009 20:04, ad...@web.de wrote:
>>> Hallo,
>>>
>>> I want to start working with the OpenOffice-Software.
>>> Could someone tell me, if the current version
>>> already runs on Windows 7??
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance
>>>
>>
>> Yes, runs just fine.
>>
> No issues regarding network share access, system File picker, meta-data
> overview in the explorer and all that sort of things?

Dunno - I don't use any of those...

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Re: [discuss] Moderator-Forced Unsubscribes

2009-12-16 Thread Barbara Duprey

Frank Schoenheit, Sun Microsystems Germany wrote:

Hi Barbara,

  
So far, I've seen no evidence that anybody actually monitors the 
users-owner account.  Hmm .. maybe we can petition to have Paul be the 
list owner? :-)



If he volunteers, this can be done. Just verified with Martin
Hollmichel: The currently-set owner is not active anymore, so he asked
who else we should set up as owner.

Opinions?

Ciao
Frank


The duties of the owner can't be too overwhelming, if we've gotten away 
without one for so long! If Paul's willing, he sounds like a good choice 
to me. Is the discuss list in the same state?


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Re: [discuss] Moderator-Forced Unsubscribes

2009-12-16 Thread Cor Nouws

Barbara Duprey wrote (16-12-09 16:51)

Frank Schoenheit, Sun Microsystems Germany wrote:
So far, I've seen no evidence that anybody actually monitors the 
users-owner account.  Hmm .. maybe we can petition to have Paul be 
the list owner? :-)


If he volunteers, this can be done. Just verified with Martin
Hollmichel: The currently-set owner is not active anymore, so he asked
who else we should set up as owner.

Opinions?


The duties of the owner can't be too overwhelming, if we've gotten away 
without one for so long! If Paul's willing, he sounds like a good choice 
to me.


+ 1


Is the discuss list in the same state?


Probably yes..

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Re: [discuss] Moderator-Forced Unsubscribes

2009-12-16 Thread Martin Hollmichel

Cor Nouws wrote:

Barbara Duprey wrote (16-12-09 16:51)

Frank Schoenheit, Sun Microsystems Germany wrote:
So far, I've seen no evidence that anybody actually monitors the 
users-owner account.  Hmm .. maybe we can petition to have Paul be 
the list owner? :-)


If he volunteers, this can be done. Just verified with Martin
Hollmichel: The currently-set owner is not active anymore, so he asked
who else we should set up as owner.

Opinions?


The duties of the owner can't be too overwhelming, if we've gotten 
away without one for so long! If Paul's willing, he sounds like a 
good choice to me.


+ 1


Is the discuss list in the same state?


Probably yes..

yes, it is,

Martin



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Re: [discuss] Moderator-Forced Unsubscribes

2009-12-16 Thread Andrew Jensen
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Martin Hollmichel <
martin.hollmic...@sun.com> wrote:

> Cor Nouws wrote:
>
>> Barbara Duprey wrote (16-12-09 16:51)
>>
>>> Frank Schoenheit, Sun Microsystems Germany wrote:
>>>
 So far, I've seen no evidence that anybody actually monitors the
> users-owner account.  Hmm .. maybe we can petition to have Paul be the 
> list
> owner? :-)
>

 If he volunteers, this can be done. Just verified with Martin
 Hollmichel: The currently-set owner is not active anymore, so he asked
 who else we should set up as owner.

 Opinions?

>>>
>>> The duties of the owner can't be too overwhelming, if we've gotten away
>>> without one for so long! If Paul's willing, he sounds like a good choice to
>>> me.
>>>
>>
>> + 1
>>
>
+1

So, Paul...looks as if  you may need to volunteer, if for no other reason
then to avoid being drafted.



>
>>  Is the discuss list in the same state?
>>>
>>
>> Probably yes..
>>
> yes, it is,
>
> Martin
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[discuss] Spelling checker not working

2009-12-16 Thread nthnhrvy
I don't know why, but the spelling checker does not work at all in the latest 
version of OpenOffice (3.1.1).   I sure hope someone can fix it before the next 
release.
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Re: [discuss] Moderator-Forced Unsubscribes

2009-12-16 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Hi all,

Frank Schoenheit, Sun Microsystems Germany schrieb:

Hi Barbara,

   

So far, I've seen no evidence that anybody actually monitors the
users-owner account.  Hmm .. maybe we can petition to have Paul be the
list owner? :-)
 

If he volunteers, this can be done. Just verified with Martin
Hollmichel: The currently-set owner is not active anymore, so he asked
who else we should set up as owner.

Opinions?
   
Even if I support nominating Paul as list-owner, I think that this will 
not solve the problem of unsubscribing people.


If I've been told correctly, the only people having the possibility to 
do that are the project owner: lead and co-lead of the project.


Best regards

Bernhard

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[discuss] Re: Spelling checker not working

2009-12-16 Thread Larry Gusaas

On 2009/12/15 3:50 PM  nthnhrvy wrote:
I don't know why, but the spelling checker does not work at all in the 
latest version of OpenOffice (3.1.1).   I sure hope someone can fix it 
before the next release.


Spell check works in OO.o 3.1.1. Yours might not be set up properly. 
Have a look at this:


   [Tutorial] Spell check and Language configuration
   http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=67

If you can't solve the problem, send further explicit details about what 
the problem is and what you have tried to resolve it.


The users mailing list is a better place to ask for help.



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Re: [discuss] Moderator-Forced Unsubscribes

2009-12-16 Thread Paul
> Hi all,
>
> Frank Schoenheit, Sun Microsystems Germany schrieb:
>
>  Hi Barbara,
>>
>>
>>
>>> So far, I've seen no evidence that anybody actually monitors the
>>> users-owner account.  Hmm .. maybe we can petition to have Paul be the
>>> list owner? :-)
>>>
>>>
>> If he volunteers, this can be done. Just verified with Martin
>> Hollmichel: The currently-set owner is not active anymore, so he asked
>> who else we should set up as owner.
>>
>> Opinions?
>>
>>
> Even if I support nominating Paul as list-owner, I think that this will not
> solve the problem of unsubscribing people.
>
> If I've been told correctly, the only people having the possibility to do
> that are the project owner: lead and co-lead of the project.
>
>
Thanks for the support..

I have in fact, just very recently, been given the status of project owner
(there can be many 'owners') for the applicable project in order to
add/remove subscribers from both the discuss and users list.

Obviously this (moderator forced unsub) will only be done under extreme
circumstances since I'm sure everyone will agree that getting users to
understand what they have done and to unsub themselves is still the
preference.

I will continue to monitor both lists, but no action will be taken until
plenty of discussion has been had.

Let me know if there are any queries.

/paul


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Re: [discuss] Moderator-Forced Unsubscribes

2009-12-16 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Hi Paul,

Paul schrieb:

[...]
I have in fact, just very recently, been given the status of project owner
(there can be many 'owners') for the applicable project in order to
add/remove subscribers from both the discuss and users list.
   

So you have the necessary rights :-)

I'm sure that you will use them with responsibility and foresight.

It's very good that these important lists are monitored regularly.

Thanks for your dedication!

Best regards

Bernhard

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Re: [discuss] Moderator-Forced Unsubscribes

2009-12-16 Thread Paul
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Bernhard Dippold <
bernh...@familie-dippold.at> wrote:

> Hi Paul,
>
> Paul schrieb:
>
>> [...]
>>
>> I have in fact, just very recently, been given the status of project owner
>> (there can be many 'owners') for the applicable project in order to
>> add/remove subscribers from both the discuss and users list.
>>
>>
> So you have the necessary rights :-)
>
>
Yep.


> I'm sure that you will use them with responsibility and foresight.
>

Naturally



> It's very good that these important lists are monitored regularly.
>
>
I've been subscribed to the lists for over 5 years and monitoring for 4
years. These days I monitor and lurk (pretty much each day) but will jump in
when required.

/paul

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Re: [discuss] Moderator-Forced Unsubscribes

2009-12-16 Thread Barbara Duprey

Paul wrote:

Hi all,

Frank Schoenheit, Sun Microsystems Germany schrieb:

 Hi Barbara,



  

So far, I've seen no evidence that anybody actually monitors the
users-owner account.  Hmm .. maybe we can petition to have Paul be the
list owner? :-)




If he volunteers, this can be done. Just verified with Martin
Hollmichel: The currently-set owner is not active anymore, so he asked
who else we should set up as owner.

Opinions?


  

Even if I support nominating Paul as list-owner, I think that this will not
solve the problem of unsubscribing people.

If I've been told correctly, the only people having the possibility to do
that are the project owner: lead and co-lead of the project.




Thanks for the support..

I have in fact, just very recently, been given the status of project owner
(there can be many 'owners') for the applicable project in order to
add/remove subscribers from both the discuss and users list.

Obviously this (moderator forced unsub) will only be done under extreme
circumstances since I'm sure everyone will agree that getting users to
understand what they have done and to unsub themselves is still the
preference.

I will continue to monitor both lists, but no action will be taken until
plenty of discussion has been had.

Let me know if there are any queries.

/paul


Fantastic! Yes, this kind of action needs to be "court of last resort" 
-- it's just that sometimes people just can't or won't do what's needed. 
Does this mean you'll be seeing the users-owner and discuss-owner messages?


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Re: [discuss] Moderator-Forced Unsubscribes

2009-12-16 Thread Paul
[snip]

>
> Fantastic! Yes, this kind of action needs to be "court of last resort" --
> it's just that sometimes people just can't or won't do what's needed. Does
> this mean you'll be seeing the users-owner and discuss-owner messages?
>
>
No I don't see those messages. There is still a 'listed' owner that is not
me that may get these messages.

/paul


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Re: [discuss] Moderator-Forced Unsubscribes

2009-12-16 Thread Barbara Duprey

Paul wrote:

[snip]

  

Fantastic! Yes, this kind of action needs to be "court of last resort" --
it's just that sometimes people just can't or won't do what's needed. Does
this mean you'll be seeing the users-owner and discuss-owner messages?




No I don't see those messages. There is still a 'listed' owner that is not
me that may get these messages.

/paul


I think you need to be made the listed owner; nobody answers those 
messages, and Frank verified with Martin that the one who is currently 
the listed owner is no longer active. Martin, can you set this up? Among 
other things, every single admin message from ezmlm says that 
[listname]-ow...@openoffice.org should be used when people have trouble 
with the autoprocessing.


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Re: [discuss] Moderator-Forced Unsubscribes

2009-12-16 Thread Martin Hollmichel

Paul wrote:

[snip]

  

Fantastic! Yes, this kind of action needs to be "court of last resort" --
it's just that sometimes people just can't or won't do what's needed. Does
this mean you'll be seeing the users-owner and discuss-owner messages?




No I don't see those messages. There is still a 'listed' owner that is not
me that may get these messages.
  

now changed for both lists, please verify,

Martin


/paul


  



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Re: [discuss] Moderator-Forced Unsubscribes

2009-12-16 Thread Mike Scott

Paul wrote:


Obviously this (moderator forced unsub) will only be done under extreme
circumstances since I'm sure everyone will agree that getting users to
understand what they have done and to unsub themselves is still the
preference.


One issue (at least on 'users') is that some subscribed users claim 
never to have subscribed. A seeming impossibility, and presumably 
they're either /very/ forgetful, or they've shared their email address 
with someone.


There is another possibility to deal with the situation. I suggested on 
'users' a while ago (meeting with an unexpected lack of enthusiasm) that 
an auto-responder might be constructed (maybe even independently of the 
actual lists) that (a) would pick out messages from unsubscribed users 
and respond with a likely simple help message plus further info on using 
the list, and (b) could pick out any obvious 'please unsubscribe me' 
messages and send the necessary list unsub email (obviously the user 
would still need to confirm this though).


Quite a bit of up-front effort to get going in a responsible way, but 
might be beneficial in the longer term. Or am I missing something?





I will continue to monitor both lists, but no action will be taken until
plenty of discussion has been had.

Let me know if there are any queries.

/paul





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