Re: [discuss] Re: Publisher equivalent?
I wish draw was able to flow text from one frame to another too. I think that's one of the only things it's lacking as a desktop publishing program. Since that functionality is already in Writer, it shouldn't be too hard for it to be implemented in Draw as well. Is there an issue for that somewhere? Yep, goes back to 1.1 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=25732 Thanks a lot Graham. I just gave the issue two votes. Adrian -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Julia Chantrell wrote: Are there any plans to include a publisher in Open Office? It does everything else / opens everything that MS Office does, but not publisher. J Chantrell Thought about Scribus? http://www.scribus.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Re: Publisher equivalent?
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:57:23 -0600, John Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julia Chantrell wrote: Are there any plans to include a publisher in Open Office? It does everything else / opens everything that MS Office does, but not publisher. J Chantrell Thought about Scribus? http://www.scribus.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually I've used scribus, however I found 1000 times easier to do the same in Draw. I have used scribus for posters and things like that but magazine-like layouts I preffered Draw. I do miss a feature that write has and thats' the link between frames. I wish Draw had that too. -- Alexandro Colorado Grupo de Usuarios Linux Tabasco http://www.gultab.org OpenOffice.org Community Contact // Mexico http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Re: Publisher equivalent?
Actually I've used scribus, however I found 1000 times easier to do the same in Draw. I have used scribus for posters and things like that but magazine-like layouts I preffered Draw. I do miss a feature that write has and thats' the link between frames. I wish Draw had that too. I wish draw was able to flow text from one frame to another too. I think that's one of the only things it's lacking as a desktop publishing program. Since that functionality is already in Writer, it shouldn't be too hard for it to be implemented in Draw as well. Is there an issue for that somewhere? Adrian -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tuesday 23 January 2007 03:12, Adrian Try wrote: Actually I've used scribus, however I found 1000 times easier to do the same in Draw. I have used scribus for posters and things like that but magazine-like layouts I preffered Draw. I do miss a feature that write has and thats' the link between frames. I wish Draw had that too. I wish draw was able to flow text from one frame to another too. I think that's one of the only things it's lacking as a desktop publishing program. Since that functionality is already in Writer, it shouldn't be too hard for it to be implemented in Draw as well. Is there an issue for that somewhere? Adrian Yep, goes back to 1.1 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=25732 Obviously needs some votes Cheers Yo -- GET LEGAL - GET OPENOFFICE.ORG http://why.openoffice.org ISO 26300 compliant Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html INGOTs Assessor Trainer Moderator New Zealand (International Grades in Office Technologies) www.theingots.org.nz GET DRESSED GET OOOGEAR http://ooogear.co.nz - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Zebri Shaari wrote: Hi, Congrats on your overall success. Is there plans to include a software similar to that of *microsoft publisher* or is there already a feature or software with open office that you could easily create vouchers/brochures etc. Thanks. I have found Scribus to be a good replacement for publisher. It does not have all the features but is a great DTP program. Except for tax software I am now completely free of MS. -- russbucket - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Zebri Shaari wrote: Hi, Congrats on your overall success. Is there plans to include a software similar to that of *microsoft publisher* or is there already a feature or software with open office that you could easily create vouchers/brochures etc. Thanks. While Publisher is interesting from an ease-of-use view, it has been horrendous as a none universal format. Even from version to version. Beware! What is lacking that you don't see in OOo Presentation before going that route. Paul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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A Dodd wrote: Dear Sir/Madam Please could you answer the following question. Will OpenOffice ever have a publisher (like Ms Publisher) added to it? Thank you for your time. OOo Writer allows one to format small (half-size) pages, edit them, and then print as booklets with the appropriate lay out for printing: an eight page book prints a sheet with page 1 on the right and 8 on the left page 7 on the right and 2 on the left etc. If one prints half the pages once, re stacks and prints the others, it can come out as a finished booklet. This could never have been done i MS Publisher, although WordPerfect has also done it for years. I have had some issues getting OOo Writer and my printer to layout this out as landscape pages, but once I figured that out, I can do any size booklet. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Since you are not subscribed, you may have missed this post. blabla wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My name is Joel Madero and I mainly use Openoffice for school work and personal use but also use it for business puroposes. I was wondering if anyone has brought up possibly adding a publisher like program to openoffice. This type of program seems like it would be more useful than a database program (although that seems helpful as well). Are there any other publisher like programs in open source community? Please let me know Joel Madero [EMAIL PROTECTED] google scribus - works a treat ingo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Peter Kupfer -- Using OOo since 'OO4 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to help? http://www.oooauthors.org For OOo tips: http://openoffice.peschtra.com/tips/ooo_tips_tricks.html To order OOo: http://openoffice.peschtra.com/distro/ooo_distro.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My name is Joel Madero and I mainly use Openoffice for school work and personal use but also use it for business puroposes. I was wondering if anyone has brought up possibly adding a publisher like program to openoffice. This type of program seems like it would be more useful than a database program (although that seems helpful as well). Are there any other publisher like programs in open source community? Please let me know Joel Madero [EMAIL PROTECTED] google scribus - works a treat ingo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sat, 2005-04-09 at 04:45, Rod Engelsman wrote: Sorry about the double-post, I hit Send prematurely. Ian Lynch wrote: Both are significantly worse in that respect than Impression Publisher on the Acorn RISC OS platform in the early 90s. Impression Publisher could be used quite happily for both word processing and DTP on a 25 MHz machine with 4 meg of RAM but then it was written largely written in Assembler optimised for one processor. Bingo. That's ultimately the key to all your praise for the efficiency of your beloved Acorn. Actually I don't particularly love it now, I do recognise that it demonstrates what is possible and that because most people haven't experienced it they set their sights too low. In fact a Psion netBook is in hardware terms considerably more powerful than those machines. This seems to indicate that coding efficiency is more important than hardware performance but there are very low expectations in this respect because people believe products like MS Word and MS Publisher represent state of the art hi-tec and that code efficiency doesn't matter too much because hardware keeps getting more powerful. If you code in Assembler you will certainly (well if you know what you're doing anyway, I guess) get faster, more efficient, optimized code. But at what price? Platform portability for one thing. And development will take a lot longer and be more expensive. Yes I think it was a company of about 10 people that developed Impression Publisher. Not very expensive at all. If you want to see what 1 programmer can do using C try downloading OvationPro for Windows. http://pilling.users.netlink.co.uk/ovationpro/opw.html This was originally developed for RISC OS by Dr David Pilling and ported to Windows. Its not Open Source but you can download it free to try out (not sure if its absolutely finished yet) I doubt paying him to make it Open Source would be very expensive in the whole scheme of things. If the fundamental routines are efficient, well documented, modular and open source (Neither Ovation Pro nor Impression are which is why I have lost interest in them - they will never be more than a niche but they do show some of what is possible) it provides a much better fundamental basis for everything else. Its why I'm very sceptical of claims about the cost of software development. Sure there is a cost but its a relatively small cost in the whole scheme of things if people go about it in the right way. If we had an efficient Open Platform, there would be no real need to for cross platform development. Unfortunately history hasn't followed that path so we get quick fix on quick fix and complex combinations of fixes and grafted on functions. Personally, before we graft DTP functions onto Writer I'd say it would be better to actually make the code work more efficiently by getting rid of any redundant or inefficient code first. Then look at ways of modifying the structures in Writer to provide DTP functions without adding bloat or compromising the strong aspects that already exist. This is a big job so, for example, SVG import/export for Draw should be a higher priority because it will take less resource to achieve and be more generally useful to more people. -- Ian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] ZMS Ltd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ian Lynch wrote: On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 22:44, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Well publisher is a dtp joke actually. I wasn't writing let's do publisher but let's add a serious dtp mode to oo.o It'll have to get in the queue behind a lot of other rfes unless you know a source to fund the development. (For those who've never touched anything but a word processor : in dtp you write text by the kilometer then pour it in pretty presentation molds. Sometimes the writing and the presenting are not even done by the same team. In wisiwig word processors the damn thing does not let you forget about the presentation a single second, so you do half-hearted attempts at presentation while your text isn't finished yet, at by the time you get to prettifying things most of those attempts either stand in the way like the cruft they really hard or are just plain obsolete since you've reworked you text dozens of time since then) There really isn't any need to separate the two if you have the stuctures in which to pour your text or type it in directly. It really shouldn't make much difference Writer is actually a bit worse even than word in this regard btw, at least word got a serious plan mode. Both are significantly worse in that respect than Impression Publisher on the Acorn RISC OS platform in the early 90s. Impression Publisher could be used quite happily for both word processing and DTP on a 25 MHz machine with 4 meg of RAM but then it was written largely written in Assembler optimised for one processor. In fact a Psion netBook is in hardware terms considerably more powerful than those machines. This seems to indicate that coding efficiency is more important than hardware performance but there are very low expectations in this respect because people believe products like MS Word and MS Publisher represent state of the art hi-tec and that code efficiency doesn't matter too much because hardware keeps getting more powerful. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sorry about the double-post, I hit Send prematurely. Ian Lynch wrote: Both are significantly worse in that respect than Impression Publisher on the Acorn RISC OS platform in the early 90s. Impression Publisher could be used quite happily for both word processing and DTP on a 25 MHz machine with 4 meg of RAM but then it was written largely written in Assembler optimised for one processor. Bingo. That's ultimately the key to all your praise for the efficiency of your beloved Acorn. In fact a Psion netBook is in hardware terms considerably more powerful than those machines. This seems to indicate that coding efficiency is more important than hardware performance but there are very low expectations in this respect because people believe products like MS Word and MS Publisher represent state of the art hi-tec and that code efficiency doesn't matter too much because hardware keeps getting more powerful. If you code in Assembler you will certainly (well if you know what you're doing anyway, I guess) get faster, more efficient, optimized code. But at what price? Platform portability for one thing. And development will take a lot longer and be more expensive. Rod - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
