Re: [discuss] Professional Office...
Remember You can also hire a designer to do this job for you and so forth giving a professional look to the suite. -- Alexandro Colorado Co-Leader of OpenOffice.org Spanish http://es.openoffice.org/ Mensaje citado por Volker Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello! > > Why does noone give OpenOffice a professional look and feel? Why not doing > such a fine job like Firefox' designers have done? Many people wouldn't even > think about using Firefox or Thunderbird if they looked so unprofessional > like OpenOffice does... > > I would do this job if I could - but designing is not the thing a can... But > I can distinguish good and bad designs... Perhaps there's a designer out > there who want's to kick Microsoft's ass - up till now they have the MUCH > better looking office package and that's an important reason for using it - > it is the GUI that goes straight into one's eyes... And hating it is not a > good starting point for falling in love with the power of a program, isn´t > it? > > Perhaps someone has some good ideas... I'm sure OpenOffice can beat Microsoft > Office - but NOT without professional look... > Best regards > Volker Jung > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Professional Office...
On Friday 15 April 2005 17:10, Volker Jung wrote: > Hello! > > Why does noone give OpenOffice a professional look and feel? Do you think that Microsoft Office has a professional look and feel? I know lots of people who can't tell the difference between MSO and OOo. With all due respect, I don't see what is unprofessional about OOo's design. OOo is an open source project, and so I would suggest that if you like a design, you campaign for it. The developers do take public opinion into account. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [discuss] Professional Office...
You might want to make suggestions as to how the look of suite could be improved. Unprofessional is too vague to really help, a list of what make a program look professional and how OO.o falls short would be be a better basis for discussion. -Original Message- From: Volker Jung [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 16 April 2005 10:10 AM To: discuss@openoffice.org Subject: [discuss] Professional Office... Hello! Why does noone give OpenOffice a professional look and feel? Why not doing such a fine job like Firefox' designers have done? Many people wouldn't even think about using Firefox or Thunderbird if they looked so unprofessional like OpenOffice does...
Re: [discuss] Professional Office...
Perhaps you didnÂt understand the intention behind my posting: I want OO to beat MS... But I canÂt deny that - just for example - ALL the symbols look like beeing drawn by programmers. IÂm a programmer myself and know that programmers most often donÂt have the inspiration to draw symbols that are able to be liked. By the way: I follow the development of OO since the days of StarOffice beeing under the control of Star... NOTHING has changed since years (despite functionality, but thatÂs NOT all a program needs to reach the masses). For example it starts with standard option to draw a grey rectangle around a new "word"-document. I hate this rectangle because of expecting a WYSIWYG-program. I just donÂt get that silly grey rectangle on any normal piece of paper. This option has to be a additional - not a standard feature. Otherwise you turn a WYSIWYG-program into bullshit that has to be turned into WYSIWYG first... Nothing people really like. And: Please donÂt behave like most people getting confronted with truth: They deny. Maybe many people donÂt see a difference because of beeing blind. There are many people existing that canÂt see a difference between car designs and anyway most really well selling cars have a good design. Also designs can be viewed in some sort of objective manner. And: Objectively OO lookes like designed by children doing their first steps - not like designed by people who gave their lifes for really nice design... Best regards Compare to firefox: Clear, straight, nice. And: They ARE succesful. More succesful than OO. Now ask WHY? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Professional Office...
Volker Jung wrote: Perhaps you didnÂt understand the intention behind my posting: I want OO to beat MS... But I canÂt deny that - just for example - ALL the symbols look like beeing drawn by programmers. IÂm a programmer myself and know that programmers most often donÂt have the inspiration to draw symbols that are able to be liked. 1) Look at 2.0, new ui, is this better? 2) The do something about it. OOo is a community of volunteers. If you don't like it, step up and fix it. OOo can't afford (remember volunteers) to hire graphic artists. 3) Can you be A LOT more specific. Which icons do you find uninspirational? By the way: I follow the development of OO since the days of StarOffice beeing under the control of Star... Then, I can only assume, that you have downloaded one of the snapshots. NOTHING has changed since years (despite functionality, but thatÂs NOT all a program needs to reach the masses). For example it starts with standard option to draw a grey rectangle around a new "word"-document. I hate this rectangle because of expecting a WYSIWYG-program. I just donÂt get that silly grey rectangle on any normal piece of paper. This option has to be a additional - not a standard feature. Otherwise you turn a WYSIWYG-program into bullshit that has to be turned into WYSIWYG first... Nothing people really like. What are you talking about? The grey rectangle shows where the page ends. Isn't that helpful? And: Please donÂt behave like most people getting confronted with truth: They deny. Then, please don't behave like most complainers and just complain and insult without specific advice or offering to help. Maybe many people donÂt see a difference because of beeing blind. There are many people existing that canÂt see a difference between car designs and anyway most really well selling cars have a good design. Also designs can be viewed in some sort of objective manner. And: Objectively OO lookes like designed by children doing their first steps - not like designed by people who gave their lifes for really nice design... I would like you to post that statement to the development and art lists please. OOo is made up of volunteers who give there time for you to have FREE software and this is your response to that? OOo doesn't look like MS Word, but that is fine, it reminds me that I have abandoned MS Word and it makes me smile. :) Compare to firefox: Clear, straight, nice. And: They ARE succesful. More succesful than OO. Now ask WHY? Small download (10 megs vs. 100 megs), more marketing money, less learning curve between IE & FF then between MS Office & OOo, less icons. There are many reasons why FF has more downloads than OOo, and I don't think icons are among them. -- Peter Kupfer -- Using OOo since 'OO4 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to help? http://www.oooauthors.org For OOo tips: http://openoffice.peschtra.com/tips/ooo_tips_tricks.html To order OOo: http://openoffice.peschtra.com/distro/ooo_distro.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
