Re: [SH-Discuss] Testing out slack

2014-04-05 Thread Andrew Buczko
Hmm, I'm confused, I think I just set up another instance of synhak instead
of joining Synhak's group?



On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote:

 On Friday, April 04, 2014 15:37:26 a l wrote:
  Is there a way to automate the invite system? If we're going to use
  consensus to decide things everyone should use slack at least long enough
  to get an informed decision.

 Not from what I can tell. It does have an API, but Im not sure if it'll
 let
 invites and membership get handled. If it does, I'll hook it up to spiff.

 
  I don't think Alex meant for you to take that as anything more than a
 light
  hearted jab regarding your dedication to fedora.
 
  Regards,
  Andrew L
 
  On Apr 4, 2014 2:11 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net
 wrote:
   On Friday, April 04, 2014 10:56:23 alex kot wrote:
I am just surprised torrie suggested slack as an option.
  
   SYNHAK has problems.
  
   They need fixed.
  
   I don't care what technology fixes SYNHAK.
  
   Can you (and others who do this stuff) please keep this stuff off
   discuss@and stay on topic?
  
--
   
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 1:14 PM EDT Philip P. Patnode wrote:
Add my name as a member to be invited.

Thanks.

On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Torrie Fischer
  
   tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote:
 Heya, folks.

 A few other spaces have started to experiment with using Slack as
 a
 discussion
 method that is limited to their membership.

 http://slack.com/

 I've created an instance for us to try it out as a way of quietly
 figuring
 out
 to build a community working group, or governance hacking,
 planning
  
   the
  
 machine shop's features, and such.

 They don't have any kind of public signup if you wish to join the
  
   synhak
  
 slack, so please let me know if you are interested and I will get
 you
  
   an
  
 invite.
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Testing out slack

2014-04-05 Thread Torrie Fischer
On Saturday, April 05, 2014 04:15:58 Andrew Buczko wrote:
 Hmm, I'm confused, I think I just set up another instance of synhak instead
 of joining Synhak's group?

Probably. You need to e-mail me or Chris for an invite.

Would you want an invite?

 
 On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Torrie Fischer 
tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote:
  On Friday, April 04, 2014 15:37:26 a l wrote:
   Is there a way to automate the invite system? If we're going to use
   consensus to decide things everyone should use slack at least long
   enough
   to get an informed decision.
  
  Not from what I can tell. It does have an API, but Im not sure if it'll
  let
  invites and membership get handled. If it does, I'll hook it up to spiff.
  
   I don't think Alex meant for you to take that as anything more than a
  
  light
  
   hearted jab regarding your dedication to fedora.
   
   Regards,
   Andrew L
   
   On Apr 4, 2014 2:11 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net
  
  wrote:
On Friday, April 04, 2014 10:56:23 alex kot wrote:
 I am just surprised torrie suggested slack as an option.

SYNHAK has problems.

They need fixed.

I don't care what technology fixes SYNHAK.

Can you (and others who do this stuff) please keep this stuff off
discuss@and stay on topic?

 --
 
 On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 1:14 PM EDT Philip P. Patnode wrote:
 Add my name as a member to be invited.
 
 Thanks.
 
 On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Torrie Fischer

tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote:
  Heya, folks.
  
  A few other spaces have started to experiment with using Slack as
  
  a
  
  discussion
  method that is limited to their membership.
  
  http://slack.com/
  
  I've created an instance for us to try it out as a way of quietly
  figuring
  out
  to build a community working group, or governance hacking,
  
  planning
  
the

  machine shop's features, and such.
  
  They don't have any kind of public signup if you wish to join the

synhak

  slack, so please let me know if you are interested and I will get
  
  you
  
an

  invite.
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Testing out slack

2014-04-05 Thread Becca Salchak
I don't know what Slack is but go ahead and sign me up
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Testing out slack

2014-04-05 Thread alex kot

Torrie is this a paid service?



--
On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 10:43 AM EDT Torrie Fischer wrote:

On Saturday, April 05, 2014 04:15:58 Andrew Buczko wrote:
 Hmm, I'm confused, I think I just set up another instance of synhak instead
 of joining Synhak's group?

Probably. You need to e-mail me or Chris for an invite.

Would you want an invite?

 
 On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Torrie Fischer 
tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote:
  On Friday, April 04, 2014 15:37:26 a l wrote:
   Is there a way to automate the invite system? If we're going to use
   consensus to decide things everyone should use slack at least long
   enough
   to get an informed decision.
  
  Not from what I can tell. It does have an API, but Im not sure if it'll
  let
  invites and membership get handled. If it does, I'll hook it up to spiff.
  
   I don't think Alex meant for you to take that as anything more than a
  
  light
  
   hearted jab regarding your dedication to fedora.
   
   Regards,
   Andrew L
   
   On Apr 4, 2014 2:11 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net
  
  wrote:
On Friday, April 04, 2014 10:56:23 alex kot wrote:
 I am just surprised torrie suggested slack as an option.

SYNHAK has problems.

They need fixed.

I don't care what technology fixes SYNHAK.

Can you (and others who do this stuff) please keep this stuff off
discuss@and stay on topic?

 --
 
 On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 1:14 PM EDT Philip P. Patnode wrote:
 Add my name as a member to be invited.
 
 Thanks.
 
 On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Torrie Fischer

tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote:
  Heya, folks.
  
  A few other spaces have started to experiment with using Slack as
  
  a
  
  discussion
  method that is limited to their membership.
  
  http://slack.com/
  
  I've created an instance for us to try it out as a way of quietly
  figuring
  out
  to build a community working group, or governance hacking,
  
  planning
  
the

  machine shop's features, and such.
  
  They don't have any kind of public signup if you wish to join the

synhak

  slack, so please let me know if you are interested and I will get
  
  you
  
an

  invite.
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Testing out slack

2014-04-05 Thread Torrie Fischer
On Saturday, April 05, 2014 08:22:48 alex kot wrote:
 Torrie is this a paid service?

It can be, but we're on the free plan which has no limits on time or number of 
users.

This link might work for non-users, I'm not sure:

https://synhak.slack.com/pricing

 
 
 
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 On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 10:43 AM EDT Torrie Fischer wrote:
 On Saturday, April 05, 2014 04:15:58 Andrew Buczko wrote:
  Hmm, I'm confused, I think I just set up another instance of synhak
  instead
  of joining Synhak's group?
 
 Probably. You need to e-mail me or Chris for an invite.
 
 Would you want an invite?
 
  On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Torrie Fischer
 
 tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote:
   On Friday, April 04, 2014 15:37:26 a l wrote:
Is there a way to automate the invite system? If we're going to use
consensus to decide things everyone should use slack at least long
enough
to get an informed decision.
   
   Not from what I can tell. It does have an API, but Im not sure if
   it'll
   let
   invites and membership get handled. If it does, I'll hook it up to
   spiff.
   
I don't think Alex meant for you to take that as anything more than a
   
   light
   
hearted jab regarding your dedication to fedora.

Regards,
Andrew L

On Apr 4, 2014 2:11 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net
   
   wrote:
 On Friday, April 04, 2014 10:56:23 alex kot wrote:
  I am just surprised torrie suggested slack as an option.
 
 SYNHAK has problems.
 
 They need fixed.
 
 I don't care what technology fixes SYNHAK.
 
 Can you (and others who do this stuff) please keep this stuff off
 discuss@and stay on topic?
 
  --
  
  On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 1:14 PM EDT Philip P. Patnode wrote:
  Add my name as a member to be invited.
  
  Thanks.
  
  On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Torrie Fischer
 
 tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote:
   Heya, folks.
   
   A few other spaces have started to experiment with using Slack
   as
   
   a
   
   discussion
   method that is limited to their membership.
   
   http://slack.com/
   
   I've created an instance for us to try it out as a way of
   quietly
   figuring
   out
   to build a community working group, or governance hacking,
   
   planning
   
 the
 
   machine shop's features, and such.
   
   They don't have any kind of public signup if you wish to join
   the
 
 synhak
 
   slack, so please let me know if you are interested and I will
   get
   
   you
   
 an
 
   invite.
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[SH-Discuss] What a rip off a solution.

2014-04-05 Thread Martin Pinkston
Yesterday, I decided to order a second Raspberry Pi. So I do to Element14's
web site and click on the 'buy now' button. So a window pops up and asks
you if this is for personal or business use. (What business is that of
yours???) So, I answer the question, noting that all personal use RPi's
orders are handled through their sister company MCM. Then I go through the
ordering process for a pi without the SD card and my least expensive option
for shipping is $10.49. (What the..???...One third the cost for
shipping???) I call the 1-888 number and talk to a customer 'service'
person. Her best answer was I'm sorry sir. So, I cancelled my order and
went back to Element14 and answered that 'personal or business' question
with 'business'. Finished the order process and shipping was $5.and some
change plus $3 tax, for a grand total of $42 and change.
What a crock of bull...'personal or business'?...
And the reason I say that is because in December '13' when I ordered my
first pi, there was no such silliness. Again, I say 'What a crock...'

So, even though I am not a member, might I make a proposal that maybe
another member can officially propose.
I propose that Synhak take a poll to see who may be wanting a RPi.
And if you want a RPi, you must have (a proposed percentage of the cost =
X) turned in by (a date).
Synhak will then take that money and offset the balance using some grant
money to order that number of RPi's (and maybe a few extra to stock)
When the RPi's come in, those who requested and paid a deposit on one can
pay the balance plus the equally divided shipping cost and get their pi.

End of proposal.

When I was going through nursing school, I had an instructor who always
said,  If you come to me with a gripe, you better have an idea for a
solution.
And that has always stuck with me.
In other words, Don't just whine about it, fix it.

Sent from my RPi.
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Testing out slack

2014-04-05 Thread a l
might as well sign me up too

thanks,
Andrew L


On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote:

 On Saturday, April 05, 2014 08:22:48 alex kot wrote:
  Torrie is this a paid service?

 It can be, but we're on the free plan which has no limits on time or
 number of
 users.

 This link might work for non-users, I'm not sure:

 https://synhak.slack.com/pricing

 
 
 
  --
 
  On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 10:43 AM EDT Torrie Fischer wrote:
  On Saturday, April 05, 2014 04:15:58 Andrew Buczko wrote:
   Hmm, I'm confused, I think I just set up another instance of synhak
   instead
   of joining Synhak's group?
  
  Probably. You need to e-mail me or Chris for an invite.
  
  Would you want an invite?
  
   On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Torrie Fischer
  
  tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote:
On Friday, April 04, 2014 15:37:26 a l wrote:
 Is there a way to automate the invite system? If we're going to
 use
 consensus to decide things everyone should use slack at least long
 enough
 to get an informed decision.
   
Not from what I can tell. It does have an API, but Im not sure if
it'll
let
invites and membership get handled. If it does, I'll hook it up to
spiff.
   
 I don't think Alex meant for you to take that as anything more
 than a
   
light
   
 hearted jab regarding your dedication to fedora.

 Regards,
 Andrew L

 On Apr 4, 2014 2:11 PM, Torrie Fischer 
 tdfisc...@hackerbots.net
   
wrote:
  On Friday, April 04, 2014 10:56:23 alex kot wrote:
   I am just surprised torrie suggested slack as an option.
 
  SYNHAK has problems.
 
  They need fixed.
 
  I don't care what technology fixes SYNHAK.
 
  Can you (and others who do this stuff) please keep this stuff
 off
  discuss@and stay on topic?
 
   --
  
   On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 1:14 PM EDT Philip P. Patnode wrote:
   Add my name as a member to be invited.
   
   Thanks.
   
   On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Torrie Fischer
 
  tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote:
Heya, folks.
   
A few other spaces have started to experiment with using
 Slack
as
   
a
   
discussion
method that is limited to their membership.
   
http://slack.com/
   
I've created an instance for us to try it out as a way of
quietly
figuring
out
to build a community working group, or governance hacking,
   
planning
   
  the
 
machine shop's features, and such.
   
They don't have any kind of public signup if you wish to
 join
the
 
  synhak
 
slack, so please let me know if you are interested and I
 will
get
   
you
   
  an
 
invite.
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[SH-Discuss] Paperwork moved

2014-04-05 Thread Torrie Fischer
Philip and I picked up a nice little file cabinet from his storage unit today. 
I've moved all of the membership packets, liability waivers, and equipment 
checkout forms into it and placed it by the wall-mounted paper slots. I think 
this is a good improvement over the previous tiny plastic box we had been 
using. I relabeled all the folders as well, since only a handful of them had 
anything to indicate purpose. The former box is on the ground next to it for a 
few days if someone wishes to repurpose it. Otherwise I'll find somewhere to 
put it.

The file cabinet also has a lock with its key for one of the drawers, but it 
can be trivially defeated by removing another drawer and unscrewing the lock. 
Not sure what we'd want to use that for if anything.

I also found our last T-Shirt from Graffiti Print Shop and put it in another 
drawer of that cabinet. Hopefully we can restock it with a bunch more swag 
sometime in the future.

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[SH-Discuss] We're on the Akron Artwalk

2014-04-05 Thread Torrie Fischer
Apparently we're on the Akron Artwalk, according to two folks who just popped 
in the space a minute ago. They were forwarded here from the Summit Artspace.

It runs from 5:00pm to 10:00pm, if anyone else is interested in helping out a 
bit tonight.

I've also added it to our calendar. I also noticed that the LAN party was 
scheduled for today according to Meetup, so I moved it to the second saturday 
of the month to fit what we decided on frag@ a while ago.

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Re: [SH-Discuss] What a rip off a solution.

2014-04-05 Thread Omar Rassi
Great idea Martin! Perhaps the best way Synhak can facilitate this is by
providing a place where people can do this collectively among themselves
(sign up sheets, common meeting place, delivery address etc.)

The only problem I see, is if Synhak were to collect the money and be the
purchaser as it were, there may be some conflict regarding our 501c3
since Synhak's purchases are tax exempt, Synhak's purchases must be for
Synhak without benefitting any individuals (I am not a tax expert so if
someone knows the tax code better than this interpretation please correct
me). I'd say go ahead and create a wiki-page and use the bulletin board by
the front door  for carpool-purchasing or some such name.

Also, Microcenter in Mayfield Heights carries Raspberry Pi and they are
usually in stock.


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martinpinks...@gmail.comwrote:

 Yesterday, I decided to order a second Raspberry Pi. So I do to
 Element14's web site and click on the 'buy now' button. So a window pops up
 and asks you if this is for personal or business use. (What business is
 that of yours???) So, I answer the question, noting that all personal use
 RPi's orders are handled through their sister company MCM. Then I go
 through the ordering process for a pi without the SD card and my least
 expensive option for shipping is $10.49. (What the..???...One third the
 cost for shipping???) I call the 1-888 number and talk to a customer
 'service' person. Her best answer was I'm sorry sir. So, I cancelled my
 order and went back to Element14 and answered that 'personal or business'
 question with 'business'. Finished the order process and shipping was
 $5.and some change plus $3 tax, for a grand total of $42 and change.
 What a crock of bull...'personal or business'?...
 And the reason I say that is because in December '13' when I ordered my
 first pi, there was no such silliness. Again, I say 'What a crock...'

 So, even though I am not a member, might I make a proposal that maybe
 another member can officially propose.
 I propose that Synhak take a poll to see who may be wanting a RPi.
 And if you want a RPi, you must have (a proposed percentage of the cost =
 X) turned in by (a date).
 Synhak will then take that money and offset the balance using some grant
 money to order that number of RPi's (and maybe a few extra to stock)
 When the RPi's come in, those who requested and paid a deposit on one can
 pay the balance plus the equally divided shipping cost and get their pi.

 End of proposal.

 When I was going through nursing school, I had an instructor who always
 said,  If you come to me with a gripe, you better have an idea for a
 solution.
 And that has always stuck with me.
 In other words, Don't just whine about it, fix it.

 Sent from my RPi.
 --
 Take Care and Have Fun Always.

 Martin

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[SH-Discuss] 19in viewsonic crt monitor

2014-04-05 Thread Philip P. Patnode
All who are reading today -

Jim Grover recently donated a very nice 19in Viewsonic CRT monitor to me
that I planned to include with a re-furbed computer that I was donating.

As it turned out, the recipient of the computer system wanted to buy a
cheep flat screen instead, so I kept the monitor in my storage unit.

It was moved to SH this afternoon and it is now AVAILABLE to anybody who
needs/wants/can use a big CRT monitor.

If you want it, please go to SH and either pick it up or mark it as claimed
with a pickup day/time.

The building will be open tomorrow from noon to 3pm.

Good luck.

Philip
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Re: [SH-Discuss] What a rip off a solution.

2014-04-05 Thread Torrie Fischer
On Saturday, April 05, 2014 19:13:25 Omar Rassi wrote:
 Great idea Martin! Perhaps the best way Synhak can facilitate this is by
 providing a place where people can do this collectively among themselves
 (sign up sheets, common meeting place, delivery address etc.)
 
 The only problem I see, is if Synhak were to collect the money and be the
 purchaser as it were, there may be some conflict regarding our 501c3
 since Synhak's purchases are tax exempt, Synhak's purchases must be for
 Synhak without benefitting any individuals (I am not a tax expert so if
 someone knows the tax code better than this interpretation please correct
 me). I'd say go ahead and create a wiki-page and use the bulletin board by
 the front door  for carpool-purchasing or some such name.

I'd be okay with using Phong Robotics' corporate account for bulk ordering. 
Wouldn't be tax exempt, but if there is enough interest I could slip you into 
a regular order.

 
 Also, Microcenter in Mayfield Heights carries Raspberry Pi and they are
 usually in stock.
 
 
 On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Martin Pinkston
 
 martinpinks...@gmail.comwrote:
  Yesterday, I decided to order a second Raspberry Pi. So I do to
  Element14's web site and click on the 'buy now' button. So a window pops
  up
  and asks you if this is for personal or business use. (What business is
  that of yours???) So, I answer the question, noting that all personal use
  RPi's orders are handled through their sister company MCM. Then I go
  through the ordering process for a pi without the SD card and my least
  expensive option for shipping is $10.49. (What the..???...One third the
  cost for shipping???) I call the 1-888 number and talk to a customer
  'service' person. Her best answer was I'm sorry sir. So, I cancelled my
  order and went back to Element14 and answered that 'personal or business'
  question with 'business'. Finished the order process and shipping was
  $5.and some change plus $3 tax, for a grand total of $42 and change.
  What a crock of bull...'personal or business'?...
  And the reason I say that is because in December '13' when I ordered my
  first pi, there was no such silliness. Again, I say 'What a crock...'
  
  So, even though I am not a member, might I make a proposal that maybe
  another member can officially propose.
  I propose that Synhak take a poll to see who may be wanting a RPi.
  And if you want a RPi, you must have (a proposed percentage of the cost =
  X) turned in by (a date).
  Synhak will then take that money and offset the balance using some grant
  money to order that number of RPi's (and maybe a few extra to stock)
  When the RPi's come in, those who requested and paid a deposit on one can
  pay the balance plus the equally divided shipping cost and get their pi.
  
  End of proposal.
  
  When I was going through nursing school, I had an instructor who always
  said,  If you come to me with a gripe, you better have an idea for a
  solution.
  And that has always stuck with me.
  In other words, Don't just whine about it, fix it.
  
  Sent from my RPi.
  --
  Take Care and Have Fun Always.
  
  Martin
  
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[SH-Discuss] bicycle for restoration

2014-04-05 Thread Philip P. Patnode
Dear All,

I recently bought an old, 26in, girl's bicycle with a straight handlebar
from Martha G.

I donated it to SH today as a new project for me, two of us, or somebody
else.

Torrie was kind enough to get her little blue Honda out of the garage and
pick it up for me at Martha's and deliver it to SH.

It needs a lot of work and some good tires/tubes, not necessarily new ones.

The bike is now in the building, waiting on somebody/anybody/me to start on
the total tear-down and restoration process, including a new blue  orange
paint job.

My intentions are to restore the bike to usable condition and make it
available to anybody who visits SH to use as a day-loaner in the downtown
area.

If you would like to join me in the project, let me know soon.

Philip
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Paperwork moved

2014-04-05 Thread a l
I'm confused.
When you say all, did you move blank forms to this new cabinet? Or did you
move filled out confidential forms from their low security drawer to a no
security drawer?


As for securing the cabinet, placing a hasp on the top drawer should
prevent it from being accessed without dismantling the cabinet.

-Andrew L


On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote:

 MOAR SWAG! Those bracelets were amazing and I love my Synhak T-Shirt.
 Awesome job you two on helping Synhak help us help you help us all!


 On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Torrie Fischer 
 tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote:

 Philip and I picked up a nice little file cabinet from his storage unit
 today.
 I've moved all of the membership packets, liability waivers, and equipment
 checkout forms into it and placed it by the wall-mounted paper slots. I
 think
 this is a good improvement over the previous tiny plastic box we had been
 using. I relabeled all the folders as well, since only a handful of them
 had
 anything to indicate purpose. The former box is on the ground next to it
 for a
 few days if someone wishes to repurpose it. Otherwise I'll find somewhere
 to
 put it.

 The file cabinet also has a lock with its key for one of the drawers, but
 it
 can be trivially defeated by removing another drawer and unscrewing the
 lock.
 Not sure what we'd want to use that for if anything.

 I also found our last T-Shirt from Graffiti Print Shop and put it in
 another
 drawer of that cabinet. Hopefully we can restock it with a bunch more swag
 sometime in the future.
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Re: [SH-Discuss] We're on the Akron Artwalk

2014-04-05 Thread Philip P. Patnode
TF,

Wish I had known that SH was a stop on the Art Walk today.

I could have/would have stayed longer and helped out.

Sorry to leave you alone, but you can handle the incoming crowd easily.

Next month, we can plan to have the space open and ready for visitors.

PPP


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 Apparently we're on the Akron Artwalk, according to two folks who just
 popped
 in the space a minute ago. They were forwarded here from the Summit
 Artspace.

 It runs from 5:00pm to 10:00pm, if anyone else is interested in helping
 out a
 bit tonight.

 I've also added it to our calendar. I also noticed that the LAN party was
 scheduled for today according to Meetup, so I moved it to the second
 saturday
 of the month to fit what we decided on frag@ a while ago.
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Paperwork moved

2014-04-05 Thread Torrie Fischer
On Saturday, April 05, 2014 19:57:40 a l wrote:
 I'm confused.
 When you say all, did you move blank forms to this new cabinet? Or did you
 move filled out confidential forms from their low security drawer to a no
 security drawer?

The blank ones.

The security on that drawer prevents me from getting at those. Only the 
secretary should have access, right?

 
 
 As for securing the cabinet, placing a hasp on the top drawer should
 prevent it from being accessed without dismantling the cabinet.
 
 -Andrew L
 
 On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
  MOAR SWAG! Those bracelets were amazing and I love my Synhak T-Shirt.
  Awesome job you two on helping Synhak help us help you help us all!
  
  On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Torrie Fischer 
tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote:
  Philip and I picked up a nice little file cabinet from his storage unit
  today.
  I've moved all of the membership packets, liability waivers, and
  equipment
  checkout forms into it and placed it by the wall-mounted paper slots. I
  think
  this is a good improvement over the previous tiny plastic box we had been
  using. I relabeled all the folders as well, since only a handful of them
  had
  anything to indicate purpose. The former box is on the ground next to it
  for a
  few days if someone wishes to repurpose it. Otherwise I'll find somewhere
  to
  put it.
  
  The file cabinet also has a lock with its key for one of the drawers, but
  it
  can be trivially defeated by removing another drawer and unscrewing the
  lock.
  Not sure what we'd want to use that for if anything.
  
  I also found our last T-Shirt from Graffiti Print Shop and put it in
  another
  drawer of that cabinet. Hopefully we can restock it with a bunch more
  swag
  sometime in the future.
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Paperwork moved

2014-04-05 Thread Philip P. Patnode
Andrew,

Not to worry about security.

There is an attack cat living in one of the drawers and she will defend the
contents of the whole cabinet at all costs.

No, I am not telling you or anybody which drawer she is in, or may be in,
or was in.

Only the insanely curious will attempt to access the drawer with the
confidential forms, that may or may not be in there.

Maybe Torrie will move the drawer with the keyed lock to the top position
to keep it from being tampered with or opened by nosy people.

Philip


On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 7:57 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm confused.
 When you say all, did you move blank forms to this new cabinet? Or did you
 move filled out confidential forms from their low security drawer to a no
 security drawer?


 As for securing the cabinet, placing a hasp on the top drawer should
 prevent it from being accessed without dismantling the cabinet.

 -Andrew L


 On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote:

 MOAR SWAG! Those bracelets were amazing and I love my Synhak T-Shirt.
 Awesome job you two on helping Synhak help us help you help us all!


 On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Torrie Fischer 
 tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote:

 Philip and I picked up a nice little file cabinet from his storage unit
 today.
 I've moved all of the membership packets, liability waivers, and
 equipment
 checkout forms into it and placed it by the wall-mounted paper slots. I
 think
 this is a good improvement over the previous tiny plastic box we had been
 using. I relabeled all the folders as well, since only a handful of them
 had
 anything to indicate purpose. The former box is on the ground next to it
 for a
 few days if someone wishes to repurpose it. Otherwise I'll find
 somewhere to
 put it.

 The file cabinet also has a lock with its key for one of the drawers,
 but it
 can be trivially defeated by removing another drawer and unscrewing the
 lock.
 Not sure what we'd want to use that for if anything.

 I also found our last T-Shirt from Graffiti Print Shop and put it in
 another
 drawer of that cabinet. Hopefully we can restock it with a bunch more
 swag
 sometime in the future.
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Re: [SH-Discuss] What a rip off a solution.

2014-04-05 Thread a l
We had originally intended to have a small stock of electronics for sale
from Synhak but decided against it due to no one wanting to keep another
set of paperwork for sales. 501(c)(3)'s however are allowed to operate
stores. As you said we would not be able to use our tax exempt status  for
purchases but we are allowed to operate retail so long as our mission is
not fully dependent on this income, nor does our mission become retail. The
IRS had us clarify our intent during the exemption process. The most well
known example of a non-profit operating a  retail space is Good-Will.

We also have(had?) reseller status at Sparkfun so, I believe, we pay
wholesale on things. Retail is a mild complication come tax time for SynHak
but it is allowed under the law.

regards,
Andrew L


On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote:

 On Saturday, April 05, 2014 19:13:25 Omar Rassi wrote:
  Great idea Martin! Perhaps the best way Synhak can facilitate this is by
  providing a place where people can do this collectively among themselves
  (sign up sheets, common meeting place, delivery address etc.)
 
  The only problem I see, is if Synhak were to collect the money and be the
  purchaser as it were, there may be some conflict regarding our 501c3
  since Synhak's purchases are tax exempt, Synhak's purchases must be for
  Synhak without benefitting any individuals (I am not a tax expert so if
  someone knows the tax code better than this interpretation please correct
  me). I'd say go ahead and create a wiki-page and use the bulletin board
 by
  the front door  for carpool-purchasing or some such name.

 I'd be okay with using Phong Robotics' corporate account for bulk ordering.
 Wouldn't be tax exempt, but if there is enough interest I could slip you
 into
 a regular order.

 
  Also, Microcenter in Mayfield Heights carries Raspberry Pi and they are
  usually in stock.
 
 
  On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Martin Pinkston
 
  martinpinks...@gmail.comwrote:
   Yesterday, I decided to order a second Raspberry Pi. So I do to
   Element14's web site and click on the 'buy now' button. So a window
 pops
   up
   and asks you if this is for personal or business use. (What business is
   that of yours???) So, I answer the question, noting that all personal
 use
   RPi's orders are handled through their sister company MCM. Then I go
   through the ordering process for a pi without the SD card and my least
   expensive option for shipping is $10.49. (What the..???...One third the
   cost for shipping???) I call the 1-888 number and talk to a customer
   'service' person. Her best answer was I'm sorry sir. So, I cancelled
 my
   order and went back to Element14 and answered that 'personal or
 business'
   question with 'business'. Finished the order process and shipping was
   $5.and some change plus $3 tax, for a grand total of $42 and change.
   What a crock of bull...'personal or business'?...
   And the reason I say that is because in December '13' when I ordered my
   first pi, there was no such silliness. Again, I say 'What a crock...'
  
   So, even though I am not a member, might I make a proposal that maybe
   another member can officially propose.
   I propose that Synhak take a poll to see who may be wanting a RPi.
   And if you want a RPi, you must have (a proposed percentage of the
 cost =
   X) turned in by (a date).
   Synhak will then take that money and offset the balance using some
 grant
   money to order that number of RPi's (and maybe a few extra to stock)
   When the RPi's come in, those who requested and paid a deposit on one
 can
   pay the balance plus the equally divided shipping cost and get their
 pi.
  
   End of proposal.
  
   When I was going through nursing school, I had an instructor who always
   said,  If you come to me with a gripe, you better have an idea for a
   solution.
   And that has always stuck with me.
   In other words, Don't just whine about it, fix it.
  
   Sent from my RPi.
   --
   Take Care and Have Fun Always.
  
   Martin
  
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Paperwork moved

2014-04-05 Thread a l
It may be possible to replace the current lock with a high security tube.
It won't keep a dedicated attacker out but it will make their crime quite
obvious as they will have to destroy the cabinet to get in.

Thanks for the update Philip.

regards,
Andrew


On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote:

 Andrew,

 Not to worry about security.

 There is an attack cat living in one of the drawers and she will defend
 the contents of the whole cabinet at all costs.

 No, I am not telling you or anybody which drawer she is in, or may be in,
 or was in.

 Only the insanely curious will attempt to access the drawer with the
 confidential forms, that may or may not be in there.

 Maybe Torrie will move the drawer with the keyed lock to the top position
 to keep it from being tampered with or opened by nosy people.

 Philip


 On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 7:57 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm confused.
 When you say all, did you move blank forms to this new cabinet? Or did
 you move filled out confidential forms from their low security drawer to a
 no security drawer?


 As for securing the cabinet, placing a hasp on the top drawer should
 prevent it from being accessed without dismantling the cabinet.

 -Andrew L


 On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote:

 MOAR SWAG! Those bracelets were amazing and I love my Synhak T-Shirt.
 Awesome job you two on helping Synhak help us help you help us all!


 On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net
  wrote:

 Philip and I picked up a nice little file cabinet from his storage unit
 today.
 I've moved all of the membership packets, liability waivers, and
 equipment
 checkout forms into it and placed it by the wall-mounted paper slots. I
 think
 this is a good improvement over the previous tiny plastic box we had
 been
 using. I relabeled all the folders as well, since only a handful of
 them had
 anything to indicate purpose. The former box is on the ground next to
 it for a
 few days if someone wishes to repurpose it. Otherwise I'll find
 somewhere to
 put it.

 The file cabinet also has a lock with its key for one of the drawers,
 but it
 can be trivially defeated by removing another drawer and unscrewing the
 lock.
 Not sure what we'd want to use that for if anything.

 I also found our last T-Shirt from Graffiti Print Shop and put it in
 another
 drawer of that cabinet. Hopefully we can restock it with a bunch more
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Re: [SH-Discuss] We're on the Akron Artwalk

2014-04-05 Thread a l
Sounds like we should have some art for folks to look at.
Maybe once the kiln gets hooked up and we get some experience with it we
could do some demo's or short 'kits' with people.

We should also thank the artspace for the promo

regards,
Andrew L


On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote:

 TF,

 Wish I had known that SH was a stop on the Art Walk today.

 I could have/would have stayed longer and helped out.

 Sorry to leave you alone, but you can handle the incoming crowd easily.

 Next month, we can plan to have the space open and ready for visitors.

 PPP


 On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Torrie Fischer 
 tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote:

 Apparently we're on the Akron Artwalk, according to two folks who just
 popped
 in the space a minute ago. They were forwarded here from the Summit
 Artspace.

 It runs from 5:00pm to 10:00pm, if anyone else is interested in helping
 out a
 bit tonight.

 I've also added it to our calendar. I also noticed that the LAN party was
 scheduled for today according to Meetup, so I moved it to the second
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 of the month to fit what we decided on frag@ a while ago.
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[SH-Discuss] Sunday open hours

2014-04-05 Thread Craig Bergdorf
Hello, I'm car shopping in PA with devin for the weekend, so will not be
able to make it to the space tomorrow.  Is anyone else planning on being
there that early?
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Re: [SH-Discuss] We're on the Akron Artwalk

2014-04-05 Thread Torrie Fischer
On Saturday, April 05, 2014 19:58:55 Philip P. Patnode wrote:
 TF,
 
 Wish I had known that SH was a stop on the Art Walk today.
 
 I could have/would have stayed longer and helped out.
 
 Sorry to leave you alone, but you can handle the incoming crowd easily.
 
 Next month, we can plan to have the space open and ready for visitors.

Yeah. On Friday I went around and made a list of what needs worked on. I've 
uploaded a TODO list of things that I want to build for the space and what 
I've heard others are working on:

https://synhak.org/wiki/TODO

 
 PPP
 
 On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Torrie Fischer 
tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote:
  Apparently we're on the Akron Artwalk, according to two folks who just
  popped
  in the space a minute ago. They were forwarded here from the Summit
  Artspace.
  
  It runs from 5:00pm to 10:00pm, if anyone else is interested in helping
  out a
  bit tonight.
  
  I've also added it to our calendar. I also noticed that the LAN party was
  scheduled for today according to Meetup, so I moved it to the second
  saturday
  of the month to fit what we decided on frag@ a while ago.
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Re: [SH-Discuss] What a rip off a solution.

2014-04-05 Thread Dave Walton
MicroCenter has Pi's for $30.
http://www.microcenter.com/product/414588/Raspberry_Pi_Model_B


On Apr 5, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Martin Pinkston martinpinks...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yesterday, I decided to order a second Raspberry Pi. So I do to Element14's 
 web site and click on the 'buy now' button. So a window pops up and asks you 
 if this is for personal or business use. (What business is that of yours???) 
 So, I answer the question, noting that all personal use RPi's orders are 
 handled through their sister company MCM. Then I go through the ordering 
 process for a pi without the SD card and my least expensive option for 
 shipping is $10.49. (What the..???...One third the cost for shipping???) I 
 call the 1-888 number and talk to a customer 'service' person. Her best 
 answer was I'm sorry sir. So, I cancelled my order and went back to 
 Element14 and answered that 'personal or business' question with 'business'. 
 Finished the order process and shipping was $5.and some change plus $3 tax, 
 for a grand total of $42 and change.
 What a crock of bull...'personal or business'?...
 And the reason I say that is because in December '13' when I ordered my first 
 pi, there was no such silliness. Again, I say 'What a crock...'
 
 So, even though I am not a member, might I make a proposal that maybe another 
 member can officially propose.
 I propose that Synhak take a poll to see who may be wanting a RPi. 
 And if you want a RPi, you must have (a proposed percentage of the cost = X) 
 turned in by (a date).
 Synhak will then take that money and offset the balance using some grant 
 money to order that number of RPi's (and maybe a few extra to stock)
 When the RPi's come in, those who requested and paid a deposit on one can pay 
 the balance plus the equally divided shipping cost and get their pi.
 
 End of proposal.
 
 When I was going through nursing school, I had an instructor who always said, 
  If you come to me with a gripe, you better have an idea for a solution.
 And that has always stuck with me. 
 In other words, Don't just whine about it, fix it.
 
 Sent from my RPi.
 -- 
 Take Care and Have Fun Always.
  
 Martin
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