Re: [SH-Discuss] garage door design contest
Philip - Your contest is a great idea. - You should of asked for volunteers not a vote. Just write out how you want the contest to go and then submit it to synhak. On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Craig Bergdorf mm1...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome, If you have given up i'de restart it as a less formal competition: if you want to be considered YOU buy a ledger sheet and show what it is you want. we'll all vote (not on a Tuesday) If you win, pay for it. For obvious reason our troll to member ratio is that of (deleted). It's a good idea, but the presentation was incorrect for the crowd you were addressing. (don't give a Tuesday meeting an opportunity to build something, the builders come other days and avoid Tuesdays like a wasp on meth. Too many people think that Tuesday meetings is what we are, they were supposta be where should we steer, and open to the public ONLY for transparency. Next Wednesday I will be sitting on the stage doing approximately nothing (*tbd) If non-members and interested parties want to check out the space tell them to come check out me making paper airplanes live for one night only. The Tuesday meeting should be something you want to be at, not an idea that this will get me closer to the synhak's in-crowd if i show up for it as I have seen since the garage. Philip: I truly hope this continues, just don't bring it up on Tuesdays. This is something for the otherside of synhak (the side torrie, omar gave up on squinting to see the dim candlelight of, and what imo is synhak) is ready and willing to contribute to. The side that doesn't make it to the minutes because nothing official will ever happen. On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:33 PM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.comwrote: Philip, I don't think there was a lack of enthusiasm for the contest. A lot of members, myself included, were reluctant to commit SynHak to the contest without the details of it finalized for a review. -Steve --- Original Message --- From: Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.com Sent: May 21, 2014 8:39 PM To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Subject: [SH-Discuss] garage door design contest TWIMC at SH Short version = The contest has been cancelled. Long version = Because I was feeling like I did not have sufficient support and enthusiasm from the members of SYN/HAK for the garage door design contest I created, I brought up the subject at last night's weekly meeting. Since the contest requires considerable time to create the individual entries and marketing materials, plus requires an initial outlay of personal funds, I wanted to get a quick Yes or No vote from the 14 SH members present at the meeting. If a majority of members voted to continue working on the contest or abandon the contest immediately, I would have been able to end the discussion during the meeting within two minutes. A positive outcome would have prompted further discussion after the meeting or, online, through email. Unfortunately, the simple request for a quick vote turned to the usual chaos we have all seen at the weekly meetings over the past few months when new subjects and issues are presented. What should have been a two minute exercise in group democracy rapidly descended into the all-too-common middle-school playground fight, with petty bickering, silly suggestions, frivolous warnings against undesirable images, and outright stupid comments. There were a few good ideas about improving the contest, but it was hard to concentrate with all the noise. Just because the contest winner would get 1/3 of the entry fees collected is not a valid reason the make the entry fee evenly divisible by 3. As the contest originator, why should I have to appeal to the math-challenged contestant? Anybody who progressed past 6th grade should not have a problem with a decimal or fractional reminder after performing a numerical division. Several members brought up the apparently real possibility of lurking artistic trolls who are just waiting for an opportunity to mess with a contest and produce results in line with their anti-social agenda. I am still waiting for the video or still photos of the anonymous trolls. I even had to defend the use of paint and/or decals as a safe medium that would not interfere with the functionality of the garage door. I wonder about such an imagination that ponders a winning design that might require 35 coats of paint, weighing over 100 lbs. Or, maybe they thought the use of a decal would somehow prevent the door from bending at the hinges? After careful consideration and a willingness to accept a minor financial loss, I have decided to end the contest before it ever got started. The $55 collected from five people, from a total of eleven entries purchased even before the final details were worked out, will be returned to them in full. The $30 gift certificate for the contest winner that
[SH-Discuss] Giant yarn?
Hey guys, look at this: https://www.etsy.com/listing/186064781/loopy-mango-big-loop-merino-wool-yarn?ref=sr_gallery_2ga_ex=etsy_findsga_ref=etsy_findsga_utm_source=adhocga_utm_medium=emailga_utm_campaign=new_at_etsy_051714_11968355882_0_0ga_redirect=1ga_filters=shawl+accessories+wrapga_search_type=allga_view_type=gallery It's GIANT YARN! I never new that existed ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] How was oddmall?
It was a blast. I got to talk to so many people! On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 12:40 PM, alex kot ak47...@gmail.com wrote: Also Ancient Aliens meme https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1.0-9/10294446_726202590736298_8843592292783311974_n.jpg On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.comwrote: Haha I remember that guy taking the picture --- Original Message --- From: gs volt gsvo...@gmail.com Sent: May 15, 2014 12:35 PM To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org Subject: [SH-Discuss] How was oddmall? I couldn't go, how was oddmall this year? Btw.. this picture literally made me jump off my seat and I was like it is so appropriate!!! /cc Steve R. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=726202270736330set=a.726781774011713type=1theater For those who can't see the photo, there's a label on a door that says 'games out the wazoo' and Steve's passing by and fixing his shirt... rofl (but in a good way) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes 5/13/14
Andrew, the questions where out of line and uncalled for.
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Alex kot ak47...@gmail.com wrote:
Fiona,
Shoot an email to discuss-unsubscr...@synhak.org this will send an email
back letting you know you where unsubscribe.
Thanks,
Alex Kot
--
From: Fiona Casida fcas...@gmail.com
Sent: 5/15/2014 9:29 PM
To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org
Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes 5/13/14
Good evening,
Would you please remove me from the list? Thank you.
I wish you all the best.
Fiona Casida
Sent from my iPhone
On May 15, 2014, at 9:05 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote:
Becca,
I figured the minutes didn't accurately capture the moment. I agree that
interviews have been lax and even rushed in the past. It's obvious that
there are differing views on how we run and how we should run. Members new
and old should have some, at least casual, knowledge of how we govern and
what our mission and community goals are.
Everyone,
Sure we hack and do-ocracy things but what does that mean? How do you
balance do-ocracy with not crushing people's toes. In the past we were
operating fairly smoothly. Part of that is due to the small size but a
bigger part of that was a clearer sense of who we were as a community. It
would be simple if we could pile all of our faults onto the actions of a
few, or single person, over the past few months. The current state is a
symptom of a general failure of us as a community.
As Becca touched on these events are the culmination of a long history of
banal interviews and little clear direction. We say our mission at the
beginning of every meeting but do we really do what we tell everyone we do.
We've got the infrastructure but our community doesn't follow a coherent
set of values. Some people want voting, some want consensus, others just
want to throw money at a cool idea so they can use the tools once a month
and help out with expenses. Others still are confused as to why we
collectively need to provide educational outlets to the public. We as a
community have lost our way, maybe we never really had it.
We've had a couple classes this year and a few talks that no one went to.
Apart from GARC the community isn't using us. They haven't been since well
before the interpersonal disputes boiled over. If we want to fulfill our
mission we need to step up our game.
So while the questions asked were directed at AJ9, like you suggest, we
should all reflect on them.
regards,
Andrew L
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 7:51 PM, Steve Radonich IV
nesfr...@outlook.comwrote:
If that is the case Andrew then my reworded proposal meets the
qualifications to be consented on Tuesday. Because that is what I remember
as well
--- Original Message ---
From: a l leit...@gmail.com
Sent: May 15, 2014 7:49 PM
To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org
Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting Minutes 5/13/14
My understanding, and how we've been operating, is that proposals
need to be discussed either on discuss@ or brought up at a meeting and
recorded in the minutes. Once those present have a wording they feel
represents the solution they are looking for it is sent to proposals@ or
brought up at a meeting and recorded in the precise wording to be
consented.
At least week after it has been proposed it is consented on at the
meeting and forever enshrined in the 'approved proposals' list.
The important step here are that the exact wording of the proposal is
sent to a mailing list accessible by the community so that any dissenting
views may be addressed. I believe proposals@ was spun off of discuss@ so
people were aware that mail from that list was the 'finalized' wording.
I wasn't aware I was having trouble seeing proposals?
regards,
Andrew L
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Andrew Buczko
a4s...@dsprototyping.comwrote:
Hey Andrew,
On https://synhak.org/wiki/Unified_SYNHAK_Code
it says that:
6. Proposals must be sent in full to discuss@synhak.org
But, on:
https://synhak.org/wiki/Proposals
it says:
2. A summary of the discussion is sent to propos...@synhak.org along
with the actual proposal.
Witch is it? One of these statements is wrong and needs to be changed.
Also,
Maybe this is why you are having trouble seeing the proposals ?
Andy
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 12:34 AM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry for the double post. I didn't want my comments to get
mistaken as meeting minutes. I tried to put headings on things in case
people didn't want to read a lengthy email
1) Apparently I wasn't clear with my wording regarding Wills membership.
I ('the secretary') did not say that 'Everything is ok, and last weeks vote
is upheld.. What I said was Last week was a fairly involved interview,
you don't need to do that again. Be sure his(and AJ9's) memberships get
brought up. Meaning his membership needs voted/consented on properly
Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: SYNHAK Drinking Game
Also will block Alex is right Torrie you are the only one that is causing arguments. On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 4:54 PM, alex kot ak47...@gmail.com wrote: First off, I don't condone nor do other people to drink at the space. This is because we have equipment that can easily harm people. This is why we wanted to enforce a drug policy rule. Second, the meeting prior to last week went very smooth. We had no arguing also a lot of laughs and good times. Ironically you weren't in that meeting. On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.comwrote: Yea I'd block that. From: tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: discuss@synhak.org Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 16:34:35 -0400 Subject: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: SYNHAK Drinking Game The Problem: Meetings are boring and just end up being yelling and making everyone feel bad The Solution: Every time someone says proposal, you drink. By the end, we'll still be making as much progress as before, but we'll be drunk. with hugs, Torrie ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal to manage proposal approval.
I like it. I will support this. On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.comwrote: the copy online is out of date -- Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 21:57:46 -0400 From: gsvo...@gmail.com To: discuss@synhak.org Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal to manage proposal approval. Static.synhak.org should have bylaws On May 14, 2014 11:50 AM, Becca Salchak blsalc...@yahoo.com wrote: Where is there the most up to date version of or bylaws? So those of us who need to do some research can ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal to Remove Torrie from SYNHAK
I disagree Philip, Torrie has shown signs of enjoyment during our heated discussions, this all seems like a game to her. Torries unwillingness to compromise with other members of Synhak just goes to show that she is doing this for the attention. Synhak was built for the community, let it go. On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: Steve, I will BLOCK this proposal to evict Torrie Fishcher from SH as strongly as I opposed her attempt to block Anna-Jeannine Herman from membership at the recent meeting. You may think that this may be a solution to some of the current problems at SH, but it is not the best approach to solving them. It would be a very good day for me if I opened my email inbox in the morning to find that Torrie had voluntarily withdrawn her block to membership for AJ9 and you had withdrawn your planned proposal to dispose of Torrie by any bureaucratic means available. Torrie is a valuable member of SH and brings lots of experience, knowledge, and excellent ideas for operating and building the organization. Sure, she has her faults, but who at SH is perfect? She might have some serious personal issues with one or more members/non-members, but I sincerely believe that all the issues can be worked out - if the parties involved are willing to discuss the issues and agree in advance to accept a final solution so all can move on. Torrie has not sought out my advice, but if she did, I would suggest that she go to CA as planned and enjoy the time away from Akron and SH. When she returns, she should consider taking at least a month off from all things at SH. Thirty days is not a long time and the break would benefit everybody at SH, members and non-members. With the recent change in her employment situation, I am sure she has some priority items to deal with. Her focus should be on her new business and not the ongoing squabbles at SH. After the break of 30 or more days, I would like to see Torrie return to SH as a member, involved in her own projects and sharing her technical expertise and knowledge with others. It is way past time to stop the bickering and in-fighting that has almost brought SH to the brink of dissolution and failure. We need to work together and get back to the projects and activities that brought each of us to SH in the first place. Sincerely, Philip On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.comwrote: Craig, No doubt, I didn't hear him say that and was just asking. If he said that he was then I would have believed him right there, but hadn't heard a thing. -Steve -- Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 20:04:14 -0400 From: mm1...@gmail.com To: discuss@synhak.org Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal to Remove Torrie from SYNHAK I also have doubts about a CWG's ability to resolve this particular situation, but that's too long of an email to write today. Xander mentioned he had prepaid for a year, and said he would block the proposal. This, having never had any reason to doubt what he says, means to me he is still a member. This is an example of exactly what some are worried about. You just met him two weeks ago, Why the doubt? On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.comwrote: Xander, I really am not meaning to be rude in asking, but are you even still a member? You showed up a couple weeks ago for the first time since I've been at SYNHAK and everyone I talked to said that you were no long a part of SYNHAK. I'm glad you're back, I'm just confused and wondering if you have any right to block the proposal. I've said many times, and I think Torrie has demonstrated, that until she takes a break from the community and uses the time to reflect and realize that she has been causing some serious issues dividing the community there is no working it out. After last night she has shown me that she isn't truly sorry or even understands what it is that she has done or said, and I am not the only one that feels this way. A Community Working Group will only work if both parties are willing to be truthful and work it out, and I know Torrie says that she is, but she has continually shown that she isn't and always feels like she is being attacked. This is not meant as a way to attack or punish her, but address the issues she has caused. -Steve -- Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 18:22:24 -0400 From: coinspel...@gmail.com To: discuss@synhak.org Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal to Remove Torrie from SYNHAK I will block this proposal if it is put up to a vote this Tuesday. It also saddens me that this is coming up once again and the discussion on the CWG has been silent. Torrie is leaving for two weeks. I agree with Chris that it is not fair for us to try to push something like this through while she is away. Let's get the CWG moving if we want to resolve
Re: [SH-Discuss] friday night at synhak
+1 wish I could be there! On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: FYI There was no movie last Friday due to the overwhelming crowd of carbon units in the building. There will be a movie this Friday at 7.30pm at SH. I will be showing the sci-fi comedy classic Galaxy Quest on the big screen, with a cartoon to precede the main event. Yes, there will be fresh popcorn available during the movie - and it's free! If you can't get a date or are just bored, come to SH and join me for a relaxing, fun evening. Philip -- Details = Galaxy Quest (1999) IMDb link = http://www.imdb.com/media/rm183601920/tt0177789?ref_=tt_ov_i IMDb Rating = 7.3/10 from 102,280 votes Wikipedia link = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_Quest Release Year = 1999 Run Time = 102 min Genre = Adventure | Comedy | Sci-Fi Director = Dean Parisot Stars = Tim Allen, Sigourney Weaver, Alan Rickman ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] SYNHAK Circuit Boards
What? can you please explain what you are talking about? On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Friday, May 02, 2014 04:54:32 Andrew Buczko wrote: Don't forget, you never fixed the 3D Printers X axis, it's still inverted. Nice! Seven mails in and I'm blamed for ruining SYNHAK. But don't forget, I started it! I'm the provoker according to Andy :) I don't think I need to explain again why I feel unsafe, or who is causing a toxic environment. Andy, just fix it on your own. Grow up. I'm not your freaking boss, and I'm not going to be your punching bag. You can either quit being a raging asshole to me, leave the community, be removed by the community, or I'll leave this toxic environment. PROTIP: A video on how open source projects survive poisonous people: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSFDm3UYkeE On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:11 AM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Thursday, May 01, 2014 23:26:24 Craig Bergdorf wrote: Just wanted to make sure everyone in the back knew you were still mad huh? No. I've stopped caring if people get my message. I wrote my thesis. If I'm ejected, oh well, there are still hackers in Akron. I've got plans B through F to fall back on. I keep hacking regardless. Folks have an interest in what I do. :) Anyway, looking forward to the kickstarter. Would love to see this give spiff more recognition too. There is a decent inventory scanner downstairs, I don't remember if it's a psion or winCE based one but eitherway it can be made to dump to mysql. Spiff would make actual inventory, loan, skill, and donation tracking a ridiculous amount easier after a large amount of setup. What's involved in feeding an amp or so to a solenoid from this? (spiff based B.F.Tool authentication) Something that would provide me income to continue work on this would be the best answer: http://development.graviton.divshot.io/ It is is 80% ready for a 0.1 release. Last 20% is cleanup and generating python bindings. The kickstarter would fund it. (Remember when people did cool things at synhak?) On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Thursday, May 01, 2014 22:43:09 Philip P. Patnode wrote: TF Is this the device that I will be assembling for ten bucks an hour later this summer? You do know that I work very, very slowly. JK! When can I see the finished product or at least the final prototype? Well, it was going to be for SYNHAK's front door. I'm not sure about that anymore, but keep an eye out for a kickstarter this month from Phong Robotics about a hackerspace entry system. More later. PPP On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Thursday, May 01, 2014 19:31:48 gs volt wrote: what is phrobo asking for em? in USD The boards? $5 each. The entire RFID entry system? $100 each. what can you do with em? Part of an RFID entry system. Described elsewhere in the thread. On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: After a long few months of work, these showed up today with the made at synhak branding for Phong Robotics: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmlHXXHCMAA28N2.jpg Collector's items, surely. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] C-BOG - the awakening
This sounds great, I might not be available on the 12th. I'll just send you guys some notes if I have any :) and catch the next meeting On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 7:54 AM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: CB Just added the meeting to my weekly schedule. I will be there at 7pm on the 12th. Maybe we can work together and get something constructive done at SH. Will submit my list of things to do, things to care about, things to consider for the future. Bringing cattle prod, with new batteries. PPP On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 12:15 AM, Craig Bergdorf mm1...@gmail.com wrote: It seems there is no opposition to this so: 1st meeting of C-BOG, How about Monday the 12th @ 7pm? Goals: - Meet everyone who will be a part of the planning phase. - Consense what is the minimum acceptable amount of buildout to tackle. If significant conflict arises a cumulative voting system can be used. (an example with made up numbers: there are 20 items to vote for and only 10 can win, everyone gets 20 votes, you can use all 20 on 1, or 3 on one, 5 on another one, etc.) - Establish a team leader for each category (walls, plumbing, electrical, hvac) and document intended tasks. - Schedule the next meeting for each team leader to present a budget, timeline, and hours of skilled/unskilled volunteer time requested. - Post minutes to discuss. In addition to moderating, I volunteer to head electrical, (including: stove, shop 3Ø, kiln, entry lighting repair, and upstairs cat5). The basement raised floor is, for me, in the can-wait category, downstairs storage and the air compressor I believe is not, but I look forward to debate. -- Armed with a list of do-able tasks, each with dollar, time, hour estimates a final presentation at a Tuesday meeting can happen. The membership, treasurer, and c-bog can consense on what must be done, what can be done, and what could wait. Money is dispersed, and work begins. A few open come help us, we have pizza days with clear lists of tasks for volunteers to pick and choose from can be advertised. - What should be on the list of infrastructure shortcomings currently impeding hacking? (shout them out!) Machine shop has no power, ventilation, air, or lighting Stove has no power or ventilation We have insufficient storage, especially for large items The basement is a giant do-not-hack pile simply because it’s not sorted. There is no hack pile Walls What else? I hope to present a list of *everything* anyone says in this thread, email, slack, or written on the back of a camshaft position sensor for a b5 volkswagon and mailed to me (anyone listen to the cartalk radioshow?) at the first meeting for discussion. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] SYNHAK Circuit Boards
Don't forget, you never fixed the 3D Printers X axis, it's still inverted. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:11 AM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Thursday, May 01, 2014 23:26:24 Craig Bergdorf wrote: Just wanted to make sure everyone in the back knew you were still mad huh? No. I've stopped caring if people get my message. I wrote my thesis. If I'm ejected, oh well, there are still hackers in Akron. I've got plans B through F to fall back on. I keep hacking regardless. Folks have an interest in what I do. :) Anyway, looking forward to the kickstarter. Would love to see this give spiff more recognition too. There is a decent inventory scanner downstairs, I don't remember if it's a psion or winCE based one but eitherway it can be made to dump to mysql. Spiff would make actual inventory, loan, skill, and donation tracking a ridiculous amount easier after a large amount of setup. What's involved in feeding an amp or so to a solenoid from this? (spiff based B.F.Tool authentication) Something that would provide me income to continue work on this would be the best answer: http://development.graviton.divshot.io/ It is is 80% ready for a 0.1 release. Last 20% is cleanup and generating python bindings. The kickstarter would fund it. (Remember when people did cool things at synhak?) On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Thursday, May 01, 2014 22:43:09 Philip P. Patnode wrote: TF Is this the device that I will be assembling for ten bucks an hour later this summer? You do know that I work very, very slowly. JK! When can I see the finished product or at least the final prototype? Well, it was going to be for SYNHAK's front door. I'm not sure about that anymore, but keep an eye out for a kickstarter this month from Phong Robotics about a hackerspace entry system. More later. PPP On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Thursday, May 01, 2014 19:31:48 gs volt wrote: what is phrobo asking for em? in USD The boards? $5 each. The entire RFID entry system? $100 each. what can you do with em? Part of an RFID entry system. Described elsewhere in the thread. On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: After a long few months of work, these showed up today with the made at synhak branding for Phong Robotics: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmlHXXHCMAA28N2.jpg Collector's items, surely. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] [SYNHAK-Announce] Board meeting 5/5/2014 7pm
Everyone needs to get off the mailing list and come to the meetings and see for yourself what SynHak is, instead of reading long winded email stories that do not show what is really going on. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Becca Salchak blsalc...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm sorry I was trying to stay out of this conversation because I feel like my points are always misconstrued over the mailing lists but I have to say something now. SYNHAK does not live and die by Torrie Fischer. We are not trying to get rid of her through removing her from her office. I can't speak for all of us but I know that most respect Torrie for her major contributions to SYNHAK. This board meeting was called because some of the membership are very VERY upset in how she is treating her office she hasn't been removed yet and we can not guarantee that she will be removed. But there are quite a few unhappy members. SYNHAK is having some internal problems right now. I was saying that we are going through some growing pains and like a child growing into an adult there are some painful moments where the body must stretch and change to accommodate as such. But the pains we are suffering now are not growing pains they are pains from a cancerous growth. (I never thought I would say something like this because I like Torrie I think for the most part Torrie has great ideas , is a very creative person, and a fun person to hang out with.) There obviously is a problem. She is perceiving hatred and judgment about personal issues when the majority of the time there isn't any judgment. The only judgment now is people judging her on her over reactions. The only fires at SYNHAK are a result of Torrie hold a magnifying glass over problems until the combust. If Torrie does get voted out of office there are people who are willing to step up and fill the void . if Torrie does decide to leave and burn SYNHAK down as she goes We will survive we will rebuild. On Apr 30, 2014 6:16 PM, Ryan Rix r...@n.rix.si wrote: RIP SYNHAK, 2011-2014 Devin Wolfe de...@midnight30products.com writes: -- Forwarded message -- From: Devin Wolfe de...@midnight30products.com Date: Apr 30, 2014 12:31 AM Subject: Board meeting 5/5/2014 7pm To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org, bo...@synhak.org Cc: As per the request of the membership I call a board meeting to be held on May 5th at 7pm. The meeting will take place at 48 S. Summit st. Akron OH. The agenda of the board meeting will be: The removal of the current officer of treasurer from their position. Devin Wolfe Champion ___ announce mailing list annou...@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/announce ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Hiatus Hiatus
? And *that* is the response to me explaining why SYNHAK has a toxic environment that pushes people away? Not calling out people for being offensive? No suggestion that maybe the reasons I'm upset have validity and should be discussed? No desire to figure out who is telling Andy B that my behavior is due to biochemical processes found in every female on the planet? Your concern is about whether or not I think I'm a source of drama? Right, ok. RIP SYNHAK. Killed by bystander apathy. Regards, Andrew L On Apr 30, 2014 12:49 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: Hey, SYNHAK. Its only been 8 days but I see that even when I'm not around I somehow cause drama. I think Einstein called that Spooky Action at a Distance. SYNHAK and I are forever entangled at the quantum level. My inbox is full of people asking for details about why I went on hiatus. I'm also aware of a board vote to remove me from my office of Treasurer, so I figure that I might as well join the fun and burn some bridges while I go down in beautiful crimson flames. An ex-synhakker (we've got those now!) told me that SYNHAK seems to have a pattern of taking Treasurers and stomping the ever-living crap out of them, so I'm obligated to take this personally. I'd like to start with this wonderful snippet that was sent to memb...@synhak.org, which caused me to ragequit: 8 Andrew Buczko a4s...@dsprototyping.com Mar 11 to me I'd like to resolve this issue by having Torie (Trevor Fisher) put on suspension from SynHak (this will include SynHak's mailing lists and any other service) for a giving amount of time. I feel that she needs time to cool off for 3 months, 6 months a year? I'll leave the time period up to the champions. Or at least until her sex change is done (since it has been brought up to me that this behavior of her's is due to her taking hormones. ) -- not mentioned before since it's none of my business. Hormones or not, the other members and the community should not have to suffer because of her antics. Andy 8 Remember, folks: you voted this mental midget of a person onto the board :) Lets not forget this other gem from a previous discussion with Steve Radonich concerning my efforts to make SYNHAK a Safe Space: 8 Even if someone was a raging transphobe how would we know? I don't think it really has any bearing on whether they're going to be a member or not as long as they can keep civil and not let their personal feelings or beliefs keep them from getting a long with, at the very least putting up with someone who might be transexual. I highly doubt anyone at SYNHAK would think that is funny and find it offensive that you would even think that. 8 Remember, folks: I'm someone who should be put up with! You all decided to go along with his plan to introduce more rules and bureaucracy to stop someone from forcing the community to address a situation where they feel completely unsafe! I could also copy in some discussions I've had with folks around the 'net about the rack situation, but frankly I'm just tired of it and would prefer to notify the Akron Community Foundation, our insurance, the city's economic development team, Akron Public Library, and really any of the other organizations in the area that come to me asking about getting involved with details about the corruption in our board brought in by Justin and Devin. I'm sure they would also all love to hear about how the board feels that we've got enough of a drug problem to enact a drug policy. When we started SYNHAK, we wanted to be better than noisebridge. Judging by the reactions of others when I explain the situation, I think we've succeeded in being a better drama mill than noisebridge: jontyw London is measured in millinoisebridges evanmcc that's totally rotten jontyw Sounds like you're at at least several noisebridges evanmcc look, you've gotten dangerously close to me having to enage any empathy and for that I am going to punish you forever Congrats! I'm so proud of everyone. We are now (in)famous within the hacker communities. Community, you've got the power to change this and fix things. SYNHAK doesn't have to have this shit. It can really be a nice place where everyone feels safe
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-04-22
ok
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Michael Griesacker
mgriesac...@gmail.comwrote:
Andy, first time note taker was being silly. Chris didn't ask about
windows or pet doors either, just doors.
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 3:03 AM, Andrew Buczko
a4s...@dsprototyping.comwrote:
* Andy -yes, no pet doors as of yet, maybe a robot door.
^ I did not say that. I said Yes, the plans are in my car, I can get
them if you want. I don't remember anything about a pet door.
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.comwrote:
On 4/23/2014 2:43 PM, a l wrote:
* no one wishes to propose to split the member dues/key restrictions
proposal
It is unclear if this was consented and if so what the wording of the
proposal is/was. Could someone who remembers the conversation update the
minutes?
At last night's meeting, this was discussed, not consented to. At last
week's meeting (04-15-2014), this was brought up as a discussion item, not
a proposal. As such, last night's discussion (04-22-2014) was, technically
speaking, the first meeting it was discussed as a proposal.
The proposal in question is available to view here:
https://synhak.org/pipermail/discuss/2014-April/008175.html
No changes to the wording of this proposal was discussed or agreed to
last night. As such, this proposal will undergo the consensus process at
next week's meeting.
Regarding Hacker grants: Since Torrie proposed this and will not be at
meetings in the near future could someone who understands her vision please
answer a few questions I have? The following is the current wording:
*I'm proposing that we allocate $5400 of our recent $15k knight
foundation grant to, each month, give $150 to a hacker with great ideas who
applies for it *
* $5,400 is a lot of money to ear mark for one project with uncertain
terms. It is in fact 3 years worth(at the proposed 150/mo) of hacker grants
as well as over 1/3 of our total grant monies. Could we lower this dollar
amount? perhaps to $1,800 offering 1 years worth of mini-grants instead. We
can always revisit the idea after one year.
* What exactly is the application process and constitutes 'great
ideas'. If two people apply in the same month how do we decide between
them? Two in the same hour? If only one person applies does that guarantee
them the money? What's the application deadline?
* Do we hand people a check for $150 or refund reciepts?
* It sounds like this is open to the public, how do we best promote
this?
regards,
Andrew L
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.comwrote:
Regarding the hacker grants proposal, I have a question for Steve.
Steve said, before we spend any money, we should have a discussion of what
we want to do with this, before we start spending it.
Isn't that what we're doing with the proposed expenditure on funding
mini-hacker grants? By discussing spending money on hacker grants, we are
in fact discussing how we're going to spend money. What sort of discussion
were you looking to have on this?
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Chris Egeland
ch...@chrisegeland.comwrote:
The link has been properly updated.
Here are the minutes:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=$date
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=$next
|previous=$previous
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' MikeG
* '''Moderator:''' Becca
== Introduction and Names ==
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
* Ed, Robert R's Grampa, Retired Study of Law.
* Jen, Stay at home mom
* Robert, likes to invent
* Becca, frosts cakes,defrosts bread
* Mike, pressed the button
* STeve, brings horribly outdated computers to syhak
* Matt, updates software
* Matt, Deathray enthusiast
* Linda, Librarian, wants her own Makerspace, found out from Clev Pub
Library
* Joe, retired mechanic
* Craig, flips cars
* G, restores bycicles, for kiks
* Andy, computer tomography machines
* Chris, untapps
* Will, gots a new phone
* Philip, takes pictures, wants to start bike refurb service, with
MAtt, G, and Theresa, not for profit, but for fun
== Announcements ==
* Mini Maker fair, KSU Library, 12-4pm Thurs
* Informal announcement Akron Mini Maker Faire October 18th 11-4pm
Akron Bublic Library, main branch
* NAMES Convention: MEchanical engineering society, makes working mini
trains, in Michigan
* Shop Safety tomorrow 8pm
** Closed toed shoes
** Long sleeve shirt/short sleeve/overshirt
** long pants
** stick with cottons
* Matt: may have line on garage toolshop, but in Michigan
== Membership ==
* Jen, never considered to be a member, was told Rob couldn't skype
into a meeting, or join via proxy
** G, can we have special off-tuesday meeting for a non-tuesday
enabled person?
** Becca, why can't he be interviewed over the phone.
** Chris E, don't see bylaw restriction, to a non-tues meeting
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-04-22
* Andy -yes, no pet doors as of yet, maybe a robot door.
^ I did not say that. I said Yes, the plans are in my car, I can get them
if you want. I don't remember anything about a pet door.
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.comwrote:
On 4/23/2014 2:43 PM, a l wrote:
* no one wishes to propose to split the member dues/key restrictions
proposal
It is unclear if this was consented and if so what the wording of the
proposal is/was. Could someone who remembers the conversation update the
minutes?
At last night's meeting, this was discussed, not consented to. At last
week's meeting (04-15-2014), this was brought up as a discussion item, not
a proposal. As such, last night's discussion (04-22-2014) was, technically
speaking, the first meeting it was discussed as a proposal.
The proposal in question is available to view here:
https://synhak.org/pipermail/discuss/2014-April/008175.html
No changes to the wording of this proposal was discussed or agreed to last
night. As such, this proposal will undergo the consensus process at next
week's meeting.
Regarding Hacker grants: Since Torrie proposed this and will not be at
meetings in the near future could someone who understands her vision please
answer a few questions I have? The following is the current wording:
*I'm proposing that we allocate $5400 of our recent $15k knight
foundation grant to, each month, give $150 to a hacker with great ideas who
applies for it *
* $5,400 is a lot of money to ear mark for one project with uncertain
terms. It is in fact 3 years worth(at the proposed 150/mo) of hacker grants
as well as over 1/3 of our total grant monies. Could we lower this dollar
amount? perhaps to $1,800 offering 1 years worth of mini-grants instead. We
can always revisit the idea after one year.
* What exactly is the application process and constitutes 'great ideas'.
If two people apply in the same month how do we decide between them? Two in
the same hour? If only one person applies does that guarantee them the
money? What's the application deadline?
* Do we hand people a check for $150 or refund reciepts?
* It sounds like this is open to the public, how do we best promote this?
regards,
Andrew L
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
Regarding the hacker grants proposal, I have a question for Steve.
Steve said, before we spend any money, we should have a discussion of what
we want to do with this, before we start spending it.
Isn't that what we're doing with the proposed expenditure on funding
mini-hacker grants? By discussing spending money on hacker grants, we are
in fact discussing how we're going to spend money. What sort of discussion
were you looking to have on this?
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.comwrote:
The link has been properly updated.
Here are the minutes:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=$date
|venue=48 South Summit
|next=$next
|previous=$previous
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' MikeG
* '''Moderator:''' Becca
== Introduction and Names ==
* Round of introductions
** What is your name?
** What do you do?
** If this is your first time, how did you hear about SYNHAK?
* Ed, Robert R's Grampa, Retired Study of Law.
* Jen, Stay at home mom
* Robert, likes to invent
* Becca, frosts cakes,defrosts bread
* Mike, pressed the button
* STeve, brings horribly outdated computers to syhak
* Matt, updates software
* Matt, Deathray enthusiast
* Linda, Librarian, wants her own Makerspace, found out from Clev Pub
Library
* Joe, retired mechanic
* Craig, flips cars
* G, restores bycicles, for kiks
* Andy, computer tomography machines
* Chris, untapps
* Will, gots a new phone
* Philip, takes pictures, wants to start bike refurb service, with MAtt,
G, and Theresa, not for profit, but for fun
== Announcements ==
* Mini Maker fair, KSU Library, 12-4pm Thurs
* Informal announcement Akron Mini Maker Faire October 18th 11-4pm
Akron Bublic Library, main branch
* NAMES Convention: MEchanical engineering society, makes working mini
trains, in Michigan
* Shop Safety tomorrow 8pm
** Closed toed shoes
** Long sleeve shirt/short sleeve/overshirt
** long pants
** stick with cottons
* Matt: may have line on garage toolshop, but in Michigan
== Membership ==
* Jen, never considered to be a member, was told Rob couldn't skype into
a meeting, or join via proxy
** G, can we have special off-tuesday meeting for a non-tuesday enabled
person?
** Becca, why can't he be interviewed over the phone.
** Chris E, don't see bylaw restriction, to a non-tues meeting to
address a new member app.
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank:
none reported
== Proposals ==
* no one wishes to propose to split the member dues/key restrictions
proposal
open: proposals -see proposal page https://synhak.org/wiki/Proposals
* Hacker Grants
**
Re: [SH-Discuss] Membership Family Plans
Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: * Many of us feel uncomfortable with letting a 7 year old roam around without someone responsible watching them. I did not feel this way and I don't feel that Torrie can speak for Many of us, In fact, I had offered to show Robert how to run the 3D printer. I have shown other seven year old's how to run the 3D printer and they have done just fine. On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Michael Griesacker mgriesac...@gmail.comwrote: Rob, I will try to be brief. The discussion brought up some concerns, and the topic of discussion was member/family pricing. As an aside, we discussed our current rules concerning keys: Non-members are barred from having keys, keys are non-transferrable between members. -also: There is responsibility/risk of a keyholder, and when asked what's the youngest age a member should be to be entrusted to be at the space alone by themselves in case of accident, emergency, other the consensus of the small group was 18yrs. I agree Robert is far more mature and responsible for his age, but we felt it time to discuss some general rules, not exceptions. Seeing Robert is intending to be chaperoned to the space by a parent, this is not a conflict, except for the key part, and we felt that fit nicely into the family membership pricing discussion. Technically, his membership, -if going under the student clause would be $15. If an adult family member joined, his membership would drop to 5$ and the first adult would be $35, the second adult $15. I wouldn't have worded nice stuff so much as sharp and pokey if the wrong end is used for the wrong thing. This is a makeshift electronics lab/workshop, not a padded romper room (envisioning Mcdonalds play area). We are all delighted to have Robert join, but did not fully think through all the aspects. We all know Robert wouldn't be riding his bycicle here, or being dropped off while mom goes to the grocery store. So I apologize for the wording coming off as an attack on you and your wife's parenting skills or to your son. We all feel that he should be encouraged and nurtured as much as possible, but want to make sure we are setting some healthy/reasonable boundaries. If you are willing to willing to work with us on this minor growing pain, I think we can settle on a reasonable solution that doesn't include 100x more fire extinguishers. Again, all of this proposed has not been voted on by the membership group, just discussed by our subcommittee, and released for general discussion. best regards, On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 12:37 AM, Robert Rybicki rob...@robertrybicki.com wrote: Sorry for the double post. Craig I thank you for sharing your story and your warm confirmation about membership. That is the kind of kinship we should all strive for. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 11, 2014, at 10:56 PM, Craig Bergdorf mm1...@gmail.com wrote: (Happy to hear the argument about age having little to do with anything. I think I can get away with saying 29 when anyone asks for the foreseeable future, and before that it was 23, 16, 13, etc. I won't pretend I don't still have a bit of a complex on judgement based on age, being the awkward but tall kid dragged to mensa meetings their whole childhood that some drunkens would occasionally mistake for a peer, then came the question that still cuts to the bone how old are you? ) A member is a member. Since the seven year old member is my son, I will add my opinions to the discussion. First and foremost I want to express my sad displeasure in reading this. Perhaps this being paraphrased ideas of a discussion many things are getting lost in translation. However the things I have issue with are listed as problems My seven year old lives 46 minutes driving distance from the space and does not currently drive himself places. If he was of driving age and as a parent I decided he was mature enough to go places by himself, or use shop tools, or as you put it nice things then I would let him go do those things. Perhaps sometimes I would go with him at times to check on how safe he is still being. Perhaps also I would put two gps tracking devices on his car so when he finds the first one I have redundancy. Also guaranteed I, or a close and not easily recognizable friend would tail him at times. The point I am trying to make here, is my son that is a member of syn/hak, is not autonomous yet, and when the time comes that he is, we will still parent him. The way nice things is worded I am taken back to my own childhood when my evil aunt had us over and I was confined to the kitchen, because she had a house full of collectable garbage (much like syn/hak,) and I was too much of an animal to go into the rest of the rooms in the house. If there are concerns about your members not being able to handle tool, machines, supplies, or members projects (again, I'm fuzzy on what is nice,) perhaps those concerns could be brought
Re: [SH-Discuss] Calling a Special Board Meeting
Torrie 1There is a conflict of interest, since Chris is more of your friend than mine 2Chris is trying to force a time limit on me to respond withing 24 hours of his email's. This is NOT a rule that I have to follow. 3I have to WORK, I have TWO jobs for a reason. I can not be taking time out for meetings when I have to buy new tires for my car, fix my house gutters, pay my CPA etc. etc. On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Friday, April 11, 2014 16:00:01 Chris Egeland wrote: To the Board, Membership and Community of SYN/HAK: I am hereby calling a special board meeting, the authority for which is granted to me as a Champion under Section 6.4.3.1 of the bylaws. The purpose of this special meeting is as follows: * The adoption of a bylaw amendment to formally change our official address to 48 S Summit St. * The adoption of a bylaw amendment to require the board to publicly post an agenda of a meeting prior to the meeting occurring, and restricting the board from voting on topics not on said agenda. * The discussion of removing Andrew Buczko from the board for refusing to enter into a mediated discussion to resolve interpersonal conflicts with a member. I've been thinking about this for a few days, actually. I had been discussing this on and off with Chris and Omar, but I think they failed to sell me on the idea of removing Andy from the board. First: Yes, Andy and I haven't been getting along. I'm not sure whose fault it is and would really rather go to mediation so the two of us can figure things out. If any of it is my fault, I'd want to know what I did wrong, as I obviously am unable to grasp what I did so I can apologize and accept responsibility. Its a bit of a shame, since he's been with SYNHAK since the beginning. I miss friendly Andy :( Second: What is this supposed to solve? Chris had contacted Andy and myself to ask for mediation at the request of another member. I happily agreed, but didn't hear from Andy except through Chris who said that Andy said he was too busy due to Notacon. Sure, fine. I can understand that. He's pretty involved and I totally support that. I later heard that he now outright refuses and thinks that there isn't a problem. Andy doesn't want to go to mediation with me; He doesn't want to fix whatever problems are ailing the relationship between us as friends. I'm not sure how removing him from the board solves this except to send some kind of message of If you have conflicts with another member, you get kicked off the board. Thats a scary precedent in my opinion. It flies in the face of my previous arguments that the board is supposed to rubber-stamp actions taken by the membership and that it should be limited to acting as an interface between the community and any legal obligations. I'm not advocating this for the current situation with Andy and myself, but I think the appropriate response to someone who isn't willing to participate in conflict resolution is that they shouldn't be permitted to participate in the community. It shouldn't matter if they're on the board, if they're an officer, a full member, or even a non-member. I don't think the situation is at that point yet, since Andy is obviously very busy with Notacon. I'm cool with waiting another week and trying again after Notacon is done with. I really don't have a problem with Andy, and this conflict isn't causing me any significant grief. I've learned to just tune it out in the hopes that we'll cool down and get over it, or he will find time for mediation. Previously, I had called for the removal of a board member because they had broken my trust. Andy has not broken my trust, so I don't feel that he should be removed. The above points were discussed with Chris in private message, but don't appear to have had much sway. To summarize: * Removing Andy from the board because him and I have a conflict is silly * Removing anyone from the board due to an inability to resolve interpersonal conflicts is silly * I'm still open to trying mediation * Andy hasn't broken my trust, and I still think he's a cool friend, but we're just not seeing eye-to-eye where it matters * If someone doesn't want to resolve their differences with another member of the community, they aren't really participating in the community and should leave for a period of time by willful suspension, or be forced to leave by stripping them of their membership. * I do not support removing Andy from the board as a response to the conflict between him and myself. We really need a community working group to sort through this stuff instead of jumping to the board when (not if!) it happens again. I'd like to figure out a meeting time this week where we can work on it, but its Friday night and I have...consumables. I'll get back to you all on that... The venue of the board meeting shall be 48 S
Re: [SH-Discuss] Calling a Special Board Meeting
Andrew I have a busy month this month. Everything happens in April! I will not be able to respond to requests within 5 days. Here is what's going on for April: -My Mother's B-Day The North American Model Engineering Society Web: http://www.namesexposition.com/ Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6BtmpYoxPQ Notacon Web: http://www.notacon.org/ Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4msp8SFl_klist=PLuYlHJrLmrZfPu0HFdMVfyMYF2C4UwjlO Cleveland Mini Maker Fair Web: http://makerfairecleveland.com/ Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhrB32n5hNw Akron Brony Meetup Web: http://www.meetup.com/Akron-Brony-Meetup/events/169761202/ Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6In3lrMFkYk Slot Car Racing Web: http://ohioho.com/OhioHOPRA.html Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRxhCTcm1Y8 Cuyahoga Falls Amateur Radio Club 60th Annual HAMFEST Web: http://www.cfarc.org/hamfest2014.php Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6rfQq3onbA Add this to the fact that I work two jobs and you can tell that I am going to be busy. Andrew On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 8:10 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote: If the parties involved agree to meet in person that's great. Not everyone will want/be able to. Getting people communicating to each other, even through an intermediary, should be to goal. How it is accomplished should be left to them. Sure, we've had misunderstandings due to words not conveying mannerisms. We've also had polite conversation devolve into a shouting match. Neither form is perfect. In the end communication is key. Not talking, communicating. If both sides are talking but neither is -listening- it won't matter if they're using carrier pigeons or lawyers. If what is said is not what is meant then what ought to be done remains undone -Confucious regards, Andrew L On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Sunday, April 13, 2014 15:25:27 Becca Salchak wrote: My issue with dealing with it over email is: -yes people tend to feel more free and open but we have had issues in the past with emails being misinterpreted. They happened in the past, and they'll happen again :) - these are personal conflicts and i feel the best way to solve these problems is face to face with a peace keeper in the middle +1 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Easier money spending
ooh, I like your log sheet dea On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: That sounds a lot like a log sheet. The card could be kept in a locked cabinet keyed to the front door. This is so that any keyholder can open it for a member instead having to rely on the availability of one single person. The log sheet can be made on a simple spreadsheet and could look like this: *Name Phone# What to purchase How much $ Date Out/In Signature* A monthly limit of $XXX.XX could be imposed on the card. A copy of the tax exempt form should be taken with the card, and when turning the card back in, receipts should be turned in as well. Maybe the keyholder should place their name on each sign out as well so that all hands on this card are accounted for? Anyone can review the logsheet and receipts and present issues during the meeting if someone identifies a problem purchase that we can talk about. A quick blurb about how we can keep nice things like this could be written across the top of the log sheet. On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 2:43 AM, Andrew Buczko a4s...@dsprototyping.comwrote: Sounds good. ? Where is the check book and card? (don't need to tell me, I just assumed that it was locked up at synhak and not at your personal house. I'm thinking we can make it like the Tool check out form. Where any member in good standing can take out the card for buying stuff. We can have them fill out the form for: 1who they are, Driver's licence number (like how stores do for checks) 2When they plan to spend the money. 3Where the money will be spent 4Amount to be spent 5When the card is to be returned This would be filled out and then giving to the treasurer (Or someone) and then the member can have the card to use. For no more than 5 business days. On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:20 AM, alex kot alexk...@yahoo.com wrote: I think it is a good idea. Though two things to add. Who has the ability to audit the spending? I think the champions should have the ability to watch over the transactions of each card. Also we should make a rule in place for spending money so it doesn't feel like a free for all. Maybe any transaction has to be emailed to members@ 24 hours before the purchase. Even if it is a little amount for something like toilet paper. -- On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 9:29 AM EDT Torrie Fischer wrote: Hi, all. This morning, Chris and I were discussing a possible solution to a money problem. The problem: I'm currently the only one who has the ability to spend *any* money. If I get hit by a bus, we'd likely be screwed. It also really slows things down. At last night's meeting it was requested that we spend some money on picking up some doors for the wall project, but getting to the point of me actually handing out money can take too long because I don't keep the checkbook on me, nor do I keep the money card on me. The solution: A special spending card that is tied to a second checking account at BFG without the ability to overdraft, cause fees, or anything else undesirable. This had been kinda discussed before as a way to handle the maintenance/buildout budgets. Basically, I setup another account with our BFG membership and keep the balance at some maximum of what we agree it should be. Our maintenence budget is still $50/mo, but if we needed to spend more I could instantly transfer money into it (like $200 for doors for the walls or somesuch) and hand over the card. I'd also like to see about getting a total of four cards made: One for treasurer, and one for each of the champions. Thoughts and feedback please! :) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Easier money spending
Sounds good. ? Where is the check book and card? (don't need to tell me, I just assumed that it was locked up at synhak and not at your personal house. I'm thinking we can make it like the Tool check out form. Where any member in good standing can take out the card for buying stuff. We can have them fill out the form for: 1who they are, Driver's licence number (like how stores do for checks) 2When they plan to spend the money. 3Where the money will be spent 4Amount to be spent 5When the card is to be returned This would be filled out and then giving to the treasurer (Or someone) and then the member can have the card to use. For no more than 5 business days. On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:20 AM, alex kot alexk...@yahoo.com wrote: I think it is a good idea. Though two things to add. Who has the ability to audit the spending? I think the champions should have the ability to watch over the transactions of each card. Also we should make a rule in place for spending money so it doesn't feel like a free for all. Maybe any transaction has to be emailed to members@ 24 hours before the purchase. Even if it is a little amount for something like toilet paper. -- On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 9:29 AM EDT Torrie Fischer wrote: Hi, all. This morning, Chris and I were discussing a possible solution to a money problem. The problem: I'm currently the only one who has the ability to spend *any* money. If I get hit by a bus, we'd likely be screwed. It also really slows things down. At last night's meeting it was requested that we spend some money on picking up some doors for the wall project, but getting to the point of me actually handing out money can take too long because I don't keep the checkbook on me, nor do I keep the money card on me. The solution: A special spending card that is tied to a second checking account at BFG without the ability to overdraft, cause fees, or anything else undesirable. This had been kinda discussed before as a way to handle the maintenance/buildout budgets. Basically, I setup another account with our BFG membership and keep the balance at some maximum of what we agree it should be. Our maintenence budget is still $50/mo, but if we needed to spend more I could instantly transfer money into it (like $200 for doors for the walls or somesuch) and hand over the card. I'd also like to see about getting a total of four cards made: One for treasurer, and one for each of the champions. Thoughts and feedback please! :) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Testing out slack
Send me an invite. I'll take a look at it next week, if I have time On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 2:23 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote: might as well sign me up too thanks, Andrew L On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Saturday, April 05, 2014 08:22:48 alex kot wrote: Torrie is this a paid service? It can be, but we're on the free plan which has no limits on time or number of users. This link might work for non-users, I'm not sure: https://synhak.slack.com/pricing -- On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 10:43 AM EDT Torrie Fischer wrote: On Saturday, April 05, 2014 04:15:58 Andrew Buczko wrote: Hmm, I'm confused, I think I just set up another instance of synhak instead of joining Synhak's group? Probably. You need to e-mail me or Chris for an invite. Would you want an invite? On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Friday, April 04, 2014 15:37:26 a l wrote: Is there a way to automate the invite system? If we're going to use consensus to decide things everyone should use slack at least long enough to get an informed decision. Not from what I can tell. It does have an API, but Im not sure if it'll let invites and membership get handled. If it does, I'll hook it up to spiff. I don't think Alex meant for you to take that as anything more than a light hearted jab regarding your dedication to fedora. Regards, Andrew L On Apr 4, 2014 2:11 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Friday, April 04, 2014 10:56:23 alex kot wrote: I am just surprised torrie suggested slack as an option. SYNHAK has problems. They need fixed. I don't care what technology fixes SYNHAK. Can you (and others who do this stuff) please keep this stuff off discuss@and stay on topic? -- On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 1:14 PM EDT Philip P. Patnode wrote: Add my name as a member to be invited. Thanks. On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: Heya, folks. A few other spaces have started to experiment with using Slack as a discussion method that is limited to their membership. http://slack.com/ I've created an instance for us to try it out as a way of quietly figuring out to build a community working group, or governance hacking, planning the machine shop's features, and such. They don't have any kind of public signup if you wish to join the synhak slack, so please let me know if you are interested and I will get you an invite. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Testing out slack
Hmm, I'm confused, I think I just set up another instance of synhak instead of joining Synhak's group? On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Friday, April 04, 2014 15:37:26 a l wrote: Is there a way to automate the invite system? If we're going to use consensus to decide things everyone should use slack at least long enough to get an informed decision. Not from what I can tell. It does have an API, but Im not sure if it'll let invites and membership get handled. If it does, I'll hook it up to spiff. I don't think Alex meant for you to take that as anything more than a light hearted jab regarding your dedication to fedora. Regards, Andrew L On Apr 4, 2014 2:11 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Friday, April 04, 2014 10:56:23 alex kot wrote: I am just surprised torrie suggested slack as an option. SYNHAK has problems. They need fixed. I don't care what technology fixes SYNHAK. Can you (and others who do this stuff) please keep this stuff off discuss@and stay on topic? -- On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 1:14 PM EDT Philip P. Patnode wrote: Add my name as a member to be invited. Thanks. On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: Heya, folks. A few other spaces have started to experiment with using Slack as a discussion method that is limited to their membership. http://slack.com/ I've created an instance for us to try it out as a way of quietly figuring out to build a community working group, or governance hacking, planning the machine shop's features, and such. They don't have any kind of public signup if you wish to join the synhak slack, so please let me know if you are interested and I will get you an invite. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] New tool: Panel Saw
Torrie, That is not a massive lathe and for you to suggest getting rid of the pantograph and the lathe is an insult. Also may I remind you that we are working on donating our Extra tools to Canhax. I agree that we need to do something with the extra table saw, band saws and the 30 or so circular saws. If Canhax is not ready for them then we could sell them off. Andy On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: I'm alright with releasing some grant money to buy a panel saw kit. I can see this being very useful. Can we possibly consense on buying this this Tuesday: http://panelsawsrus.com/products/ All it is is the kit for the frame. Once that is assembled, we can design the actual panel saw to not take up as much space, perhaps a collapsible one. If we still have open concerns about the floor space it uses, I'd also like to mention that we have *four* bandsaws. Four. And a pantograph. And a massive lathe. Certainly we can get rid of some of those things and clean up the machine shop by a lot. For reference, here is the footprint of the kit's suggested design: http://panelsawsrus.com/gallery/psru-youtube-image/ Looks pretty skinny, probably as much as our current plywood rack. On Tuesday, April 01, 2014 21:25:42 a l wrote: Before I had to leave the meeting early there was discussion about how to retrofit the machine shop to limit dust c. In that discussion the topic of plywood/large format wood handling came up and a panel saw like what lumber yards have was suggested. New/Used ones apparently cost thousands of dollars so I sought out a DIY solution. I've found a few kits that come in varying degrees of fully assembled with prices between ~$300-$1000. There are also a few designs for sale from backissues of woodworking magazines($10/issue). Given enough time staring at the ones at the home improvement store and pictures online we could probably make our own without buying plans. Or should we save our time and just buy a kit? At any rate I think it's a viable solution. http://panelsawsrus.com/ http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIY-Sliding-Panel-Saw-Hardware-Kit-/281191079778 http://www.widgetworksunlimited.com/Panel_Saw_DIY_Frame_Kit_p/ww-panel_saw-d iy.htm http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/2082569/33113/Safety-Speed-Cut-Panel-Pro-2 -Saw-Model-PRO2K.aspx http://plansnow.com/dn3099.html http://www.finewoodworking.com/workshop/tip/build-your-own-panel-saw.aspx http://www.rockler.com/woodworking/Panel-Saw-Kit If someone is vehemently against spending the cash and spare circular saw on one we could also situate the table saw near the garage door-side of the shop and just open the planned( they are planned aren't they?) double doors and put an outfeed table in the hallway when we need to make big cuts. happy hacking! Andrew L ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] One Last Time
Probably because I'm transgender and can easily pick out transphobic behaviors. Lets not talk about that though. Why are you against people who are afraid to travel across seas? What do you have against them? On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:50 AM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Tuesday, April 01, 2014 23:10:39 Steve Radonich IV wrote: I am aware that there is already separate thread about this, but seeing as it has been up for so long without a single word of input from anyone I had to bring it up again. I pretty much addressed Torrie's concerns but I will do it again, even though most of them are not really valid. Which concerns did you address? And which ones are invalid and why? Bylaws don't say anything about proposals. Sure they say we've got the right to vote on membership applications, but I'm no longer comfortable with that route. The questions asked interview process have the possibility of having no real impact. First, it doesn't really matter if you are no longer comfortable with voting on a membership application since the proper way of gaining or getting rejected for membership is by a vote as outlined in section 5.2 of the bylaws, and Section 5.1 Membership Qualifications states having been proposed by a current member in good standing, and having been approved by a vote of the membership. If you really don't want to vote than you need to have an amendment to the bylaws, since as far as I'm concerned voting is the only way we can confirm a member of SYNHAK, even if you don't like it. Right. Thats what the rules say. We can change the rules. Thats the point of our governance process. The mechanism in this case is to get a bylaw amendment. If we feel that this is warranted, it'll go there. Are we not currently discussing making more rules and bureaucracy because the current rules are perceived as not compatible with our desired end state? Second, the questions in the interview process have a huge impact on whether someone would be voted in or out of SYNHAK membership, I don't see how having a vote really changes that at all, kind of confused on this point. I imagine asking someone questions and finding out that they're a raging transphobe, but the majority of the people present at the meeting who fail to understand the gravity of my concerns think haha, they're funny. Even if someone was a raging transphobe how would we know? I don't think it really has any bearing on whether they're going to be a member or not as long as they can keep civil and not let their personal feelings or beliefs keep them from getting a long with, at the very least putting up with someone who might be transexual. I highly doubt anyone at SYNHAK would think that is funny and find it offensive that you would even think that. How would they know? Probably because I'm transgender and can easily pick out transphobic behaviors. Lets not talk about that though. not let their personal feelings or beliefs You really don't think this matters? People can forget all about their prejudices and irrational hate and not let it out in some way? You think that I wouldn't feel incredibly uncomfortable at the space if I knew that there was someone there who thinks of me as less than human? at the very least putting up with someone who might be transexual. Ah, thanks for that. I can see how I am something to be put up with. In no way could being every day in the presence of someone who feels this ever get to me and cut deep emotional gouges and cause me to think that SYNHAK is no longer a safe place. Please understand that you have said some things pointed at a core facet of my human identity in what I am perceiving as an incredibly insensitive and discourteous manner. Yes I am nonplussed. I certainly would not be comfortable with their membership without being able to block and then further getting to know them. I'm still not convinced that voting is an effective method of getting the support of everyone. You would have the opportunity to make your reservations known to the community as a whole, and even block that membership by yourself for 2 whole weeks, of which if you couldn't convince a small 15% of those at the meeting to your side then you didn't make your point good enough. One person should not have the power to indefinitely hold up a proposal or membership application just because they don't like it. Might I ask what is so effective about using a system that requires us to go back and forth over the same issues and talking points to reach 100% consensus and never get anything done, than just having a super majority vote of the membership in attendance and getting the issues resolved? I'm not saying everything has to be made fast, but if consensus can not be made in 6 weeks I highly doubt it will ever be made and there is no reason to drag
Re: [SH-Discuss] More meeting improvements
My suggestion for improvement: You (the Moderator) is to only direct the meeting as far as topics / questions / consensus / voting goes. IF the moderator has a topic / question / consensu / vote then the moderator shall do so as a member and wait his or her turn. Not to pick on you Torie but: What I saw at the last meeting was more like Torie Time then a meeting. as Moderator Torie got to give input after every turn. The moderator should have to wait in the Que, just like everyone else. PS, What is the short form of consensus? Conseed, conside, consensu, give in? On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Wednesday, April 02, 2014 17:39:03 Omar Rassi wrote: but what about over 50? Is it the same? is it different? what does any of this have to do with my original post I wasn't asking to talk about member dues or bureaucratic fantasies.. I was looking for feedback on last night's meeting and suggestions to improve it. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 5:21 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote: The procedure, as written, for removal of board members if the membership is under 50 looks pretty well spelled out ... A majority of the membership... Which as Chris pointed out a while back is defaulted to 51%. Regards, Andrew L On Apr 2, 2014 4:41 PM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: From what I gathered since the very beginning of Synhak, the spirit of how Synhak is structured is such that the Membership decides how things should be. The board exists to help support what the members want to do and achieve. Its important to remember that the bylaws also allow for the membership to remove any or all board members without cause, (Chapter 6.3.3): *6.3.3. Removal of Directors * Any or all directors may be removed without cause if: * In a corporation with fewer than 50 members, the removal is approved by a majority of all members. * In a corporation with 50 or more members, the removal is approved by the members. So both Torrie and Justin are correct. A board meeting must be called to make adjustments to the schedule of membership dues but the membership must first reach consensus on what that new schedule should be. The board creates resolutions without the membership deciding if that's what they want might cause the membership to second-guess their board. Also, as a side note, the bylaws do need to be updated with the current address as it still lists 21 West North as the principal office and there isn't a clear difference between the less than/more than 50 members procedure for Removal of Directors. Time for me to write an email to Champions@ On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Wednesday, April 02, 2014 15:42:45 Justin Herman wrote: Just a point of order... Per the Bylaws, Section 5.3, the membership does not decide the dues, the board does. Right, but it would be a Very Bad Idea to not get consensus on what is reasonable. Each member must pay, within the time and on the conditions set by the board, the dues, fees, and assessments in amounts to be fixed from time to time by the board. So a champion needs to call a board meeting. (PS: I am in support of having a senior discount as suggested by Philip and interested in talking about family discounts) On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: Last night's meeting seemed to go alright, though less good than last week's: * It devolved into a series of back and forth QA sessions between two people wy too often * Nobody had anything they wanted to bring up after we talked about the wall I'd like to discuss two improvements to the meeting. First, a stack-watcher. The role of the stack watcher would be to catch who raises their hand first and ensure that everyone gets a chance to speak in the order that they want during discussion. When listening to discussion, I'm trying to keep an eye on the notes on the screen, watching for raised hands, making sure that nobody talks for too long, and trying to remember the stack of topics that we're discussing (i.e., start on the wall, move down into ventilation, move down into moving the furnace, move back up to ventilation, back up to the wall, down to ceiling height, etc). It'd be super cool if someone could play stack watcher next week. Just keep a list of who is speaking when on a whiteboard. Second, a programmed agenda. Philip and I were talking about this, regarding the fact that membership dues and
Re: [SH-Discuss] IRC
Wow, do we have a BBS too? On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Craig Bergdorf mm1...@gmail.com wrote: done. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: Do you folks know about #synhak on chat.freenode.net? I think this wiki page needs some love: https://synhak.org/wiki/IRC :) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Laser Measuring Tape
I'll try to make it down there sunday to help measure things out . Hmm, We could make a SynHak.wad :) On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Thursday, March 27, 2014 22:36:01 Craig Bergdorf wrote: I can be found any(!) Sunday from Noon to 3 (i missed a family members bday party the week before last to be there, alone). For the rest of my life, Sundays are indelibly linked to being at SynHak, Alone until 2:59pm. Although I am often late, if I won't arrive by the end of cartalk (1pm) i've always sent an email to the discuss list in shame (since the Bethany-callout) I'm away from the space at the moment, but will be back in time to sit alone Sunday noon to 3. How is Sunday?, I can bring in a laser that does nothing, and a tape measure to continue gathering data to make a real 3d model of the space. Torrie: can you be here Sunday as well? Yup, sure! I'll be there at noon. On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: TF CB What time will you be at SH on Sunday? PPP On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Thursday, March 27, 2014 21:43:30 Philip P. Patnode wrote: Craig, If you need/want/can use some assistance, I'd like to help you when you do the floor measurements with the fancy new gizmos/instruments. Fully qualified to be a worker drone on your team - I can count to 100 and I have memorized the whole alphabet. Plus, I only ask for a hot cup of coffee once per hour and need to pee every two hours. No doubt, I will learn something new and interesting in the process. Neat. Lets get together on Sunday and make an accurate floor plan! Philip On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:33 PM, Byron Moran byrondmo...@gmail.com wrote: I might know a guy with access to a really cool 360 degree distance measuring tool. I'll ping him. On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:30 PM, Craig Bergdorf mm1...@gmail.com wrote: *stands up* how can I help!? And when can it be a TF2 map? Handheld ultrasonic is as far as my technology goes (anyone have a lidar rig?), but after making a quake map of the Cub Foods at the corner of hwy 7 and hwy 101 in MN (the center of the universe), i'de love to do this again with today's technology ( instead of, blueprints, and cameras with rulers in the frame). i'de like to jump in on this one, my original drawing of the space cut corners because of the pressure at the time to finish, but I know what measurements were assumed, what were quickly measured, and what were measured precisely, the Micrografx format I desperately cling to grants no ability to mark measurements with notes (yes I know - when is beta coming back;because it is a terrible format I've been locked into for a decade, but haven't crawled out of my cave yet, but you can't fight love)) but I still have all the pen drawings from measuring. On Mar 27, 2014 8:50 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: Would someone have a long distance laser measuring device? I'd like to start playing around with CAD and build a more accurate version of our floorplan, with a third dimension included so we can get an accurate estimation of the resources needed to build a wall. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Thanks, Byron D Moran Software Development Consultant (330)992-9766 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] request for 3D printer info
I've always liked 911-6502 -- that number's never busy On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: Because 867-5309 is always busy! Might be a good choice for an alternate number. I feel for the party that has that number in any exchange. No doubt, they get lots of calls and a few un-ordered pizzas too. On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 10:33 PM, J. F. Corner j...@5n4k3.com wrote: Why not 867-5309? http://youtu.be/6WTdTwcmxyo On 3/23/2014 20:36, Philip P. Patnode wrote: I'm changing my cell phone number to 330.555.1234 on all future emails to SH lists, as of today. On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 8:24 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure it's mentioned somewhere in the confirmation e-mail but word to the wise: Discuss@, Members@ and a few other SynHak mailing lists are publicly viewable and indexed via google. Sending contact info through them isn't the best practice. regards, Andrew L On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 12:13 AM, Andrew Buczko a4s...@dsprototyping.com wrote: I will be at the Robot building thingy tomorrow. If not then, it's ok. we can get together some other time for some 3D printing On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.com wrote: Tim, Does Paul use a drone and camera to do the aerial photos or a real, full-size helicopter? Do you know why he does IR photos? Looking for drug dealers/growers with heat lamps? Paul can email Torrie, Andy, or Chris Neer about the 3D printer. Better yet, invite him to SH for a tour and a chat. Philip On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Seeley, Tim (PSA-Akron) tim.see...@psangelus.com wrote: Paul Gray saw the robotics flyer and called me with questions about SYN/HAK's 3D printer. Can someone knowledgeable about the 3D printer call him on his cell 330-554-2829? Thanks P.S. Paul makes his living doing aerial infrared photos of roof tops. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing listDiscuss@synhak.orghttps://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Saturday Cleanup and Cleveland Mini Maker Faire
Yes, Phil I can pick you up at McD's in Wallhevan at 8:30. Andy On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Craig Bergdorf mm1...@gmail.com wrote: My schedule for that day is still up in the air but I'll be up there at some point to give breaks help out, just most likely not before 11am On Mar 24, 2014 8:36 AM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.com wrote: Andy, Thanks for the offer to give me a ride on Saturday morning. I can be ready to go anytime after 8.30am or even earlier. I am awake and moving by 6.30am, fully functional by 7.30am. The forecast for Saturday is good = [image: Inline image 1] Can you pick me up at McDs at Wallhaven or should I take the bus to downtown Akron? Either is OK with me. I can send you driving directions and a map if you need them. G -- And thank you for the offer too. Will go with Andy and help him set up his display and take a quick run around the venue before the show starts at 10am. If you need any help with the SH table, I will be available. Looking forward to a fun day in Cleveland. Philip On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 2:13 AM, gs volt gsvo...@gmail.com wrote: Everyone, Synhak does indeed have a table at Cleveland Mini Maker Faire this year. I plan to manage the table, in the worst case where only I end up going. Our table is 8ft long. If any maker cannot attend the event, but would be willing to loan their project for a day, please please consider doing so. Cleveland mini maker faire does have a lot of young attendees that will appreciate any basic demos or hands on activities. I plan to: - take along my SnapCircuits kit that will hopefully be able to teach kids about electronics. - take black and white synhak flyers - hopefully take a keyboard, mouse, flat screen monitor, with a laptop that will run synhak pictures in a slideshow - perhaps (if I complete a simple demo) a tinyduino demonstration - 3V batteries and LEDs (thanks to Chris Neer for 3V batteries) Last year, I took my cubelets kit and the table allotted to us was literally stampeded by kids :) Another point of note is that CPL's parking was across the street. We did miss their loading schedule last year (which is usually between 8-9:30a or so behind the library for bigger items). The event starts at 10a, ends at 5p. Me, Torrie and Xander went last year. I remember losing my voice - as the environment got loud with lots of people. This year there's 100+ makers in attendance in two buildings. I might have to pickup my ASL book at home (hope not!). Philip, I don't know my schedule for Friday over Saturday yet. If I leave from Akron, will let you know - as I will be riding alone in my car which is rather quite big and can carry hackers and their gear safely. My primary motivation for going to CMMF is to interact with kids and share something of value with them. You all know my secondary motivation - meet and speak with other makers! Of which there are many more this year. If anyone would like to come along and schedule workshops every top of the hour, that would be great. Many exhibitors follow this format and its quite rewarding to see micro-events like make and take activities during the event. More thoughts and ideas, please reply back. -G On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: Anybody - Would like to go to Cleville on Saturday, but I need a ride. Is anybody driving to the Mini Maker Faire that has room for a hitchhiker/passenger? Will be happy to chip in a fiver for gas or buy them a Happy Meal on the way back. I can be ready to go, anytime after 9am on Saturday morning. Can meet you at SH or pick me up at McDs at Wallhaven. Philip On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Michael Griesacker mgriesac...@gmail.com wrote: I have a tournament on the 29th, so I will be unavailable, but I believe I can finish up the craft room ceiling and rehang the lights by then so we can restock it with it's furnishings, -that will be one less thing to clean around/shuffle On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: So, I think we all agreed to have the cleanup day on March 29th. Turns out that the Cleveland Mini Maker Faire is that day. http://makerfairecleveland.com/ I think we have a table there, but I'm not sure. Bad scheduling on my part, I had forgotten to add it to my and SYNHAK's calendar. Who might be going to the Maker Faire, and who might be handling our table up there? Should we move cleanup day to Sunday or another day? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Paint related items for everyone to pick and choose from
My Friend and I used some of the spray paint to paint my pinball machine and it came out great! Thanks G Andy On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:36 AM, gs volt gsvo...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm.. would you have time today at noon? Your presence at the robot meet would be splendid. On meetup someone was asking to bring their kids to this. You can share your experiences with them if they show up - no demo pressure! Yes. Take as many rollers as you'd like. Can the person who takes the last roller reply via email to let everyone know they are gone? Thanks much! On Mar 22, 2014 12:21 AM, Byron Moran byrondmo...@gmail.com wrote: G, I am actually in the process of painting part of my apartment as we speak. I hope no one minds if I swoop in and grab a couple of these tomorrow. When will the space be open for me to do so? Super helpful! On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 12:16 AM, gs volt gsvo...@gmail.com wrote: Tonight I brought in two boxes of paint rollers (photo of 1box): http://imgur.com/kqBWqPb At the moment, these two boxes are on top of the power wheels racing car's red cover in front of the back bathroom. Also, brought in some Duplicolor Scratch Fix All-in-1 pens (approx. 100): http://imgur.com/DlxbDyy These pens are of various colors of automobiles by make and have been stored at room temperature on the lower shelf next to our 3d printer. Typically I learned that folks that have scratches on their cars, can use them to fix them quickly. If anyone has use for them, feel free to take them home. On opening day, I brought some paint in a Dole banana box that is in the machine room area somewhere that can be used for projects as well. All this stuff is coming direct from Sherwin-Williams' give-aways they sometimes have for anyone to take at no charge! Per item, in their store these things retail for a quite a lot. I'm glad to share all this with everyone at Synhak. Those members who would like to learn how to paint, can consider learning it from those that do I'd say, now that we have a huge number of these rollers. Perhaps we can have a let's paint synhak's walls that need paint day! Regards, G ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Thanks, Byron D Moran Software Development Consultant (330)992-9766 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] After a week of searching, I need some help...
I did some organizing in the NOC part of the basement in hopes of finding them but had no luck. I did see the ramset charges in a box on the floor by the air compressor. The charges are on the center shelf now but maybe the ramset is burred in all those computers? We will have to get our infrastructure back in order so that there is a place for everything and then we can put everything in it's place. Maybe then we will find the things we are looking for. On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 7:19 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: O While I was looking for a monitor cable in the basement, my eager team of triplet Corgi's were busy sniffing around the boxes and tubs for the missing Ramset. They were unable to locate it but did find a bag of delicious beef jerky buried in a plastic tub. The last time I saw it was several weeks ago when Craig was mounting electrical boxes in the front room. Also, Craig mentioned that he was missing a piece of computer hardware, last seen at SH. Never saw an Engenius WAP at SH. How many are you looking for? Were they in a retail box or loose in the Microcenter bag? Was looking for a cold chisel and a #3 Phillips screwdriver today, but couldn't find either one. Bring up the issue of missing stuff at the next meeting and create a list of stuff that all of us should look for at SH. The list of missing and misplaced items can be posted by the front desk and on the Discuss List. After the implosion created by the removal of the steel storage racks, it will be difficult to find anything smaller than a breadbox for the next few weeks. P On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: So there are two things last seen at Synhak that I need some help looking for. 1. The Engenius Wireless Access Point modules, They look like thishttp://imgur.com/DU0hAhn and were last seen in a plastic Microcenter bag during the move. I spent the past week looking through the space and have not yet been able to find them. 2. The ramset fastner, It looks like this http://imgur.com/bTOjw0B and was last seen about a week ago. It does not belong to Synhak, it was loaned it to us while we were renovating our new space. The owner needs it back and we could not locate it last night. If anyone knows where these items are please let myself or the other Champions (Devin Wolfe and Chris Egeland) know so we can get them back into the light and safe from darkness. Thank you, Omar Rassi ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] request for 3D printer info
I will be at the Robot building thingy tomorrow. If not then, it's ok. we can get together some other time for some 3D printing On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: Tim, Does Paul use a drone and camera to do the aerial photos or a real, full-size helicopter? Do you know why he does IR photos? Looking for drug dealers/growers with heat lamps? Paul can email Torrie, Andy, or Chris Neer about the 3D printer. Better yet, invite him to SH for a tour and a chat. Philip On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Seeley, Tim (PSA-Akron) tim.see...@psangelus.com wrote: Paul Gray saw the robotics flyer and called me with questions about SYN/HAK's 3D printer. Can someone knowledgeable about the 3D printer call him on his cell 330-554-2829? Thanks P.S. Paul makes his living doing aerial infrared photos of roof tops. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Consensus with Limited Blocking
I do not see consensus working as the group grows larger, we need to vote and be done with the mater at hand. We can always write new proposals to deal with changes that come in the future. On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote: In the risk of sounding confrontational, you have asked for feedback... I have real reservations with this proposal. IMO this will create a blockade where the strong willed get their way and those with less time to commit to arguing will give up or quit synhak all together. Even with the limited blocking option added in I question WHY. Why should 1 person be able to hold the entire org hostage to make action? Voting does create a winning side and losing side. But it is fair. Every member in good standing is allowed 1 vote and only 1 vote. If the majority decides to accept a member why should one person get to decide that it should be blocked? One person does not decide the path of SynHak, the group does. Not everyone is going to be happy with all decisions. The path to playing nicely and being excellent is accepting that the group feels differently than you and moving forward. Not all decisions can be forced into consensus, esp when the group grows beyond a handful of people (as we have). Our views, disciplines, and experiences are diverse, let us accept that, hear the pov, and allow the voice of the group decide how we move forward. Our discussion process and proposal process provides for a clear and transparent method for showing different points of views even if all views are of the same opinion (OMG new person is super cool). Then the membership can make a decision with all views (members and non-members) expressed. Respectfully, Justin On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 11:31 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: The last few membership applications and proposals we've had, we've sometimes used a vote, sometimes went with does anyone raise issues? This is going to be a bigger year for SYNHAK. I think we should consider revisiting our consensus process to allow it to scale in a manner that helps to maintain our shared spirit of experimentation, openness, and the triumvirate of Consensus, Do-ocracy, and Excellence. I feel that one such vector is by stepping away from the trend of having simple majority voting, or rather, any kind of vagueness on the definition of consensus, as clearly evidenced in tonight's meeting. The original intent of our membership process was to weed out the crazy people. I think this should also be extended to include measures to weed out people that might not fully understand what it means to be a member of SYNHAK and have an active part in our governance process. I still maintain my opinion that you can be as member as you want to be, however I wouldn't want new members joining the space that we don't all /not/ dislike. It causes tension and an increase in drama if there exists someone who creates pressure points. The same goes for our proposal process. Traditionally its been used to bring about new rules, changes in protocol, etc. It often leads to a lot of arguing and assumption of personal attacks, acting in bad faith, and shouting about unexcellence. Voting always pits one side against another. It is an all or nothing system. The purpose of weeding out people and ideas not universally accepted as contributing to our common vision, whatever that may be, is to ensure that our community works together as one. I'm not arguing that we shouldn't accept new members or ideas simply because not everyone agrees with them 100%. However, if someone in the membership has serious concerns about an applicant or proposal, I feel that there should be a mechanism that addresses those concerns and ensures that everyone involved ends up happy with the outcome, even if it is just one person. To use an extreme example: If we've got 100 members, and one knows that a new applicant is a sociopath who has been kicked out of a bunch of other area organizations before, I think they've got a right to step up and stop them from becoming a member. One person harboring bitter thoughts and resentment towards another does not make a healthy and vibrant community. To quote Omar, We don't all have to like everyone, but we do need to get along. I would like to suggest that we adopt a modified consensus process in the form of blocking with explanation. Here's a suggested protocol: ---8--- * Proposals or membership applications may be accepted by the Membership of SYNHAK as long as nobody blocks any such application. * If a SYNHAK member wishes to block a membership application or proposal, they need to clearly state their reason for blocking. ** Not everyone has to agree with the reason for a block to be valid, it just has to be clearly stated. * Proposals and membership applications may be permitted to be blocked at any point up
Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal to grant AWS and infastructure access.
1 do we have a processes for issuing Admin rights to new admin's?
2 If no, then How do other companies bring on new admins?
3 Who are our current admins?
4 What rights do they have for what services/virtual spaces.
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 11:00 PM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
As a sysadmin myself, I'd have to agree with the extra scrutiny for
digital assets. I don't see it as a personal attack on anyone that
regarding this scrutiny, we've spent the past three years fine tuning this
virtual space to what it is now. Our virtual space is not like our physical
space at all, you can't walk in to 48 South Summit and accidentally burn
the whole building down with a typo or wrong command with ease, but that is
MUCH easier to do on our virtual space.
I've been involved with Synhak since Torrie's garage and in all this time,
I have decided not to get involved with the AWS instances for this reason
since I typo alot, instead I applied my talents elsewhere. Although, it
would be nice if anyone who wanted to try their hand at improving our AWS
instance or Virtual Space had sudo access to a sandbox duplicate, then we
can only commit changes to the live instance that are proven to work while
only providing read only access to the live instance. Keep in mind that the
Virtual Space you are talking about does not just contain the website, as
I understand it, Spiff is also on AWS, which handles, among other things,
our membership database. Let's please try to keep admin rights to this on a
need to know basis. I feel the term positive control (I know I use it
alot) applies well in this scenario.
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Torrie Fischer
tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote:
On Monday, March 17, 2014 18:22:38 Justin Herman wrote:
NOTE: Chris and Torrie were able to decrypt it with their private key's.
In order to avoid extra noise and virtual conflict I have opted to
answer
any questions during our meeting. I will be available to answer any
questions during that time. This is equivalent in conditions met to
acquire
a Physical Space key.
Noise implies useless information. I'm certain that SYNHAK would find
someone's reason for wanting access to AWS and all of our servers to be
useful
and even important information.
I'm concerned about this virtual conflict you perceive. Why would you
think
that an open discussion about security would create conflict?
You're also aware that meeting in person during a meeting aren't the
conditions for getting a key, right? It involves a proposal for Consensus.
There's also the fact that a physical door key is completely different
from
having administrative access to synhak.org.
I will block any proposal to grant you AWS access on the grounds that you
haven't demonstrated why I should trust you, and that you're currently
demonstrating some interesting interpretations of protocols.
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Torrie Fischer
tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote:
On Monday, March 17, 2014 17:05:56 Justin Herman wrote:
SOME KIND OF BLOB
Ok. Right.
You sent a SSH key signed with a PGP key that I have not verified. The
signed
key was encrypted with my public key, meaning that only I could
decrypt
it.
Justin, are you aware that we are also asking you questions and not
just
asking for an SSH key? I'll copy them again:
QUESTIONS
1.) What is your primary purpose for requesting access to AWS?
2.) What problems with the current website and online infrastructure
do
you
currently see that require AWS root and sudo access to solve?
3.) What improvements can you offer to the overall infrastructure?
4.) Are you familiar with Ansible, the configuration-management
software
used
to configure, deploy and maintain servers? If not, do you intend to
learn
about it?
QUESTIONS
In case they kept getting lost in the noise of this thread, I've also
trimmed
out the rest of the inline quotes.
There seems to be a pattern of not answering any questions when
directly
asked. Would you prefer that I ask them in private instead of on
discuss@?
I'm
often at the space, so I can handle either e-mail or in person. I
would
still
need to relay the answers to a public forum such as noc@ to preserve
transparency about our site security and keep everyone else up to date
with
who has unlimited and absolute power over synhak.org.
If you're not able to make this work, then I can't really give you
access.
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Re: [SH-Discuss] SYNHAK Cleanup
Yeah, great idea. Devin and Craig had some ideas for making a raised floor in the basement's noc area that sounded great. On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: On the subject of broken computer crap and the grant, I'm currently writing a proposal to purchase the parts to refurbish the nicest of the donated equipment in order to re-donate them to other hackerspaces and replace old equipment at space. I'll soon be asking NOC for what hardware our current infrastructure is using so I can compare it to what we have in donated equipment. I'm still about a month away from proposing it though. just wanted to throw this out there in case anyone was thinking of something similar. On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: I cleaned up all those servers and computers and stuff that were just sorta left in the loading dock area. I also hung up a bunch of signs stating that the dock area is not general storage. Whomever is dropping off all these broken computers, please ask noc@before you do so. We literally have too much broken computer crap in the basement. More on topic with this mail's subject, I'd like to try and organize a general cleanup day this month, perhaps on the 22nd at noon. Some storage furniture will need constructed or otherwise acquired, which I think is a wonderful application of a portion of our $15k grant. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] photos by ppp from the open house 3/1/14
The photos look great! On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: All at SH - Just uploaded another 29 photos to my Flickr account. All photos were taken at the Open House on Saturday, March 1, 2014. Same link as last time = http://www.flickr.com/photos/119094119@N03/ There are forty-eight photos in the stream, so far. More to come. All the image files have been reduced in size from the original. You may print any of them - there are no restrictions or copyright on the images as long as they are used for personal purposes. The files should make a decent 4x6 print Twenty of the images have been printed to 4x6 and will be posted at SH on the display wall in the Palm Room, next to the kitchen. Enjoy! Philip ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Investing in synhak.org Infrastructure 2: Electric Boogaloo
Torrie, I don't have time to read your novels. Please keep your post simple and to the point. On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:37 AM, Andrew Buczko a4s...@dsprototyping.comwrote: Ok Thanks Chris, that makes more sense when you say it that way. On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.comwrote: I'm sorry, but I'm siding with Torrie on this one. On 3/3/2014 11:35 AM, Justin Herman wrote: I agree with Andrew, I hold several concerns about this proposal and think we need to evaluate the needs of the infrastructure. The purpose of bringing up proposals on the discuss list is so that anyone subscribed can participate in the proposal process, member or not. If you wish to discuss your proposals, please bring them up on the list so that people subscribed can participate in the discussion. On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Andrew Buczko a4s...@dsprototyping.com wrote: WAT? first you said it was $1.60 This was the monthly increase in billing to more than quadruple our infrastructure's power, by implementing the original proposal. Then $16.40 This is the monthly savings we will see if we implement this proposal and spend the $200 mentioned to reserve the t1.micro instances mentioned. Now it's $123.10 This was a hypothetical number. It's the monthly cost of the originally proposed infrastructure (2x t1.micro, 2x m1.small, and 1x m1.small RDS) purchased without reservations, minus the monthly cost of the same infrastructure purchased with monthly reservations. It was given simply to illustrate how much of a monthly savings is available when utilizing the AWS Reserved Instances program. This number has absolutely nothing to do whatsoever with this current proposal. ? On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: Previous thread: https://synhak.org/pipermail/discuss/2014-February/003393.html I'd like to propose that we spend $200 to reserve the two t1.micro instances in that proposal for the purpose of web servers. Our current AWS expenditure is still ~$80/mo. Spending $200 up front will reduce that bill by $16.40/mo and keep our infrastructure expenses low for the next three years. Thats an extra $16.40 we can invest elsewhere with a break even point of 12 months. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing listDiscuss@synhak.orghttps://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal discussion: Associate Members
Meh, seems kind of pointless to me, if you want to join just join. SynHak is not an inclusive club. On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Mar 3, 2014 9:29 PM, Tomm Smith root.pac...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Torrie. I am not a member (yet) but am new to the community and in a situation where this would be a nice step to becoming a member. It would give the psych a certain feeling of acceptance to allow for new members to speak up a bit more and get to know the community better, quicker. The new member (given the resources) could then also have opportunity to prove there skills to the community making their acceptance much more likely and swift. Further from this it gives a very established, professional feeling to the new comer and welcomes them in, enriching within them to help build the community and be constructive and creative. One is more likely to buy an item, if they are given a sample at the front door. Not to mention the availability this leaves for the website and digital infrastructure down the road. If the service hosting were to increase, associated members could then get a small webspace with limited priviledges and quite possibly a shell with limited priviledges. This small introductory corner would allow them the sandbox to prove their skills and begin to get a taste of what the SYNHAK community is, in and outside of the facilities. As Torrie was saying, these account types could also be tagged to an academic tracking system that allows members to know and check who has been safety trained to use what machines/tools and any concerns over such. This tagging system could also be used as a means to keep notes on the users and raise issues/concerns or honors/promotions of said associated member, to the members. With maturity and incorporation, I would agree quite strongly with Torrie about this being a rather foundational element of the beginning steps of becoming a member. The structure would then lead towards established professionalism, in turn then leading towards becoming a 501c down the road and contribution to advancing said facilities could benefit the (associated) members by tax exemption. Em, you mean turn SH into a 501c3? Cuz we already are. http://static.synhak.org/documents/bizops/501c3-letter.pdf Just a few agreeances and thoughts. On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Monday, March 03, 2014 17:57:16 a l wrote: I didn't reply due to no concerns as the proposal is laid out here. I guess my question is: Why? Why does someone want to become an associate member? Are they allowed some small storage? They can't be a keyholder since that is a privilege of membership, so it wouldn't grant them additonal access to the space. Perhaps I underestimate the draw of a completely arbitrary title. Since it doesn't really change much I have no reason to block it though. It establishes a web of trust model within the space and provides a sense of belonging. If some unknown guest is milling about, one can easily request what their username is and figure out if they are someone that the community trusts to be at SYNHAK. By having a username, it also encourages them to use the infrastructure on synhak.org more, namely the wiki. Additionally, I'm sure there are quite a few people who would love to say I'm a member of SYNHAK, especially visiting hackers. It gives a sense of belonging. For example, I'm not a full Council Member of Noisebridge. I am, however, an Associate Member. In a way, I am a part of the Noisebridge community more than someone who isn't an Associate Member. It gives me warm fuzzies. 3 regards, Andrew L On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: No discussion on a mechanism that has the potential to prevent future tension? This makes me sad :( On Friday, February 28, 2014 10:29:34 Torrie Fischer wrote: I'd like to discuss the possibility of an additional class of members based on the success I've seen of using it at Noisebridge. Right now, we've got just one class of members called Members. Some time ago, they introduced a second group called Associate Members. The procedure for becoming an associate member is pretty simple: https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Membership#Associate_Members Essentially, you create a User wiki page, find four sponsors (who are other associate members or regular members), then add a category tag to your page. Associate members can't participate in governance or need to pay dues, but it does give a sense of belonging and establishes a network of trust between active community participants who have not become full
Re: [SH-Discuss] What We Offer Page
I added the 3D printer. On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote: Alex, I added the agreed drafting in link format to the page. On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 12:22 PM, alex kot alexk...@yahoo.com wrote: After work today I can help out with this. Do we have an Blueprint of the new space, that we can put on there to show the area and what they are used for? On Friday, February 28, 2014 12:10 PM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote: Added some. On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: According to Google Analytics, the What We Offer page is getting the heaviest activity today. Would anyone else mind helping out by going through and updating it with what you know we've got? https://synhak.org/wiki/What_we_offer ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] The Bucket System
That looks cool! -Derpy Approves- On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Tomm Smith root.pac...@gmail.com wrote: TD, We could possibly make some calls to local industrial plants and inquire as to if they have buckets about what we need or similar that their raw materials come in and possibly try to claim there disposal? Tomm Smith God bless On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: From Diyode, an incredibly cheap solution to sorting parts: http://www.diyode.com/2014/02/the-bucket-system/ Anyone know of a similar way to acquire such buckets or storage units for free? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Investing in synhak.org Infrastructure 2: Electric Boogaloo
WAT? first you said it was $1.60 Then $16.40 Now it's $123.10 ? On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: Previous thread: https://synhak.org/pipermail/discuss/2014-February/003393.html I'd like to propose that we spend $200 to reserve the two t1.micro instances in that proposal for the purpose of web servers. Our current AWS expenditure is still ~$80/mo. Spending $200 up front will reduce that bill by $16.40/mo and keep our infrastructure expenses low for the next three years. Thats an extra $16.40 we can invest elsewhere with a break even point of 12 months. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Wanted: PHP Developer
Is it an option to hire someone from rent-a-coder err, virtual worker to do it for us? I'm not sure how much it will cost but I think it might be a viable option since all of us are pressed for time. On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: SYNHAK's wiki doesn't have file uploads. It used to, before things were split into a disposable clustered server model. It hasn't had file uploads for the past year and I'm getting incredibly frustrated that I don't have the time to fix it. Would someone want to look into figuring it out? Please mail me or poke me on #synhak. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] vacuum former question-OPENING DAY related
Mike, what exactly do you mean when you say Drinking the Coolaid I hope you are not referencing what I think you are referencing. Hmm, we should try some coffee mugs to see just how good and how many we can form, using the plastic that we have. as for getting food safe plastic, better order it over night if you want it in time for opening day. I think that making our own SynHak We Make Akron cups would be fun! On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 6:13 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote: The plastic we have is -not- food safe. We works need to buy some PETG plastic. Most cups are injection molded. While we could make some cups, the bigger they are the more likely the form will pull unevenly. Regards Andrew L On Feb 23, 2014 1:31 PM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote: Devin would be the person to ask about the plastic. On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Becca Salchak blsalc...@yahoo.comwrote: I don't know anything about it but if we could make it work that would be really cool On Feb 23, 2014 11:59 AM, Michael Griesacker mgriesac...@gmail.com wrote: -hello, 1) is our vacuum former using food-grade plastic? 2) has anyone made forms for cups yet? 3) is anyone interested in showcasing our infrastructure capability by making SynHak logo cups for Drinking the Coolaid on opening day/ or other sponsored event? I'm thinking about 4oz size to facilitate punch, adequately carry our logo or web address, and small enough to serve as a novelty/keepsake/trinket -so bigger than shotglass, but not by a lot. thoughts? -and a cost analysis would be appropriate, I don't remember how much sheets cost Best Regards Mike G ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[SH-Discuss] Space IS OPEN!
Hello, It's Friday the 21st I am at the space working on electrical, if you wish to come down to the space to hack or help out feel free to do so! Please call me at 330-814-6103 if you have any questions since I may be to busy to check the email. Andy ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] hours - friday/21
I am here now (4:30pm) and will be here for the night. On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote: Devin and I will be there later ~10pm. On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: Who is coming to SH this afternoon or evening? What time period will the the building be open and occupied? I would like to come to SH and work for at least four hours. Philip ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[SH-Discuss] Small bathroom has been painted
Phile wanted to let Mike know that the small bathroom has been painted and is ready for sink - instalment :) Andy ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Softer LED lighting
I've got a bunch of filters that are used for changing the color of lamps, If I remeber I can bring them to the space for you to try out. Andy They look like these: http://www.stagelightingstore.com/Stage-Lighting-Store/Gel-Color-Filters On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Robert Rybicki rob...@robertrybicki.comwrote: Hello Does anyone know of some kind of filter I can put over white LEDs to make a softer light source. I know there are amber LEDs but I would like something in between. I am trying to make mood lighting by converting lanterns to lamps. Rob Sent from my iPhone ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[SH-Discuss] working at the space tonight
I will be at the space tonight till 10 pm come on down and help clean / paint / what ever. Lets make this a hacker space! Andy ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] working at the space tonight
cool, I'll be here On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: I will arrive around 5pm to paint the final coat on both bathroom walls and re-install the door to the front bathroom. PPP On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Craig Bergdorf mm1...@gmail.com wrote: i will be down in a few hours to finish electrical in the palm room, left in a hurry last night so sorry for the mess. On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Andrew Buczko a4s...@dsprototyping.comwrote: I will be at the space tonight till 10 pm come on down and help clean / paint / what ever. Lets make this a hacker space! Andy ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Polar bear jump in portage lakes
Still warmer that the old SynHak building. On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote: Im doing it. On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 9:20 PM, gs volt gsvo...@gmail.com wrote: Polar bear jump in portage lakes http://www.akron.com/akron-ohio-entertainment-news.asp?aID=22075 Last year I missed Devin's jump, but do know he does like to participate in this. For those who have never seen this event, it is mighty big and for jumpers real fun. Devin, and other folks who jump.. reply back if you're participating, k? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] 3/1 Opening Day Newsletter
Very well said G! On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:57 PM, gs volt gsvo...@gmail.com wrote: Downtown Akron Partnership had a deadline of tonight for a newsletter on synhak, so this is what I sent them: SYN/HAK OPENS ITS DOORS TO THE PUBLIC SYN/HAK The Akron Hackerspace 48 S. Summit St., Akron, OH 44308 February 5, 2014 The press and public are invited to the 2014 Spring Open House of SYN/HAK, The Akron Hackerspace on March 1, 2013. Previously located on the far edge of Akron downtown, join us around noon at our new downtown location: 48 S. Summit St., Akron, Ohio to learn more about our space. SYN/HAK provides an environment for people to educate, create and share amongst themselves and others within the domains of technology, art and science. Through talks, classes, workshops, collaborative projects and other activities, SYN/HAK encourages research, knowledge exchange, learning, and mentoring in a safe, clean environment. Hackerspaces are community-operated places where people can meet and work on their projects. SYN/HAK is a registered 501(c)3 not-for-profit corporation in the State of Ohio. Donations are always appreciated, and will be tax-exempt. For more information on SYN/HAK, please visit our website at http://www.synhak.org, or e-mail us at he...@synhak.org If you are moderator of other newsletters, please feel free to share this with your group(s) as well. Feel free to make edits to it, as you see fit. Regards, -- G ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Something for summer.
I'd be up for that On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:49 AM, J. F. Corner j...@5n4k3.com wrote: Train track? locomotives? A FELLOW FOAMER???! *HOLY DIESEL ELECTRIC, TELL ME MORE!* On 2/5/2014 18:59, Martin Pinkston wrote: After I got home from the meeting last night, I got to thinking about a couple of things. The one being that once winter ends and decent weather start, I will be spending more time out at the train track. Because we hold public runs every other Sunday. A public run is where we give the public free rides on the trains. Some days we have 700 to 800 people come ride with us. It is open to any one who shows up and you all are welcome to come and see us. So, along those lines, I keep thinking about some of the cool things that could be done with a RPi or Arduino or BB in conjunction with this hobby. For instance, just a simple set up to graphically represent a locomotives location on the track on a laptop and then post that info on a webpage. From there, the imagination could run wild, like controlling signal blocks and switches, and the nice thing is that once the bugs were worked out, an actual product could be packaged and easily marketed on the web or our hobby publications. Again, this is just a thought. I don't believe there is a huge demand for any such products, but when has that ever stopped pharmaceutical companies. They are always coming out with a pill and then generating the demand for it by marketing. Latest example, testostrone replacement theropies. Besides, I think it would be a great learning experience in programming and might make a decent project for teaching programming. Again, just a thought. Take Care and Have Fun Always. Martin ___ Discuss mailing listDiscuss@synhak.orghttps://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] another zoning proposal
looks good On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:41 AM, Craig Bergdorf mm1...@gmail.com wrote: What if the EE lab and general meeting area were connected again in an L? Having the meeting area being the entire width we could fit the 21 people we had at this weeks meeting. Also with a shrunken machine shop from the first post to the floor drain, a clear shot to load/unload from the garage door including the basement 4x8 sheets to the machine room. The right side of the back 40 is left out, a good classroom and something else could spaciously fit in there. I'm just trying to get 21 unpacked. 2 weeks, 2 days till the soft launch. http://calculais.com/syn/2/5.1.pdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] 2/13 at 6pm: Special meeting at Synhak to fill Knight Foundation Grant Proposal Form!
We can ask for funds to pay contractors to do this stuff for us. (not to be rude, but I already work 4 jobs) Plus, it might get done quicker. On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Also, what I wrote are ideas, not actual items, unless they are actual things we're trying to accomplish then yes I concur. On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: I tried to answer some these questions real quick while holding a squirming baby on my lap at my laptop in the kitchen. What I wrote is in *ITALICS.* - Does Synhak plan to use a fiscal agent? (if not, Knight recommends Miami Foundation) - Proposal for a project (*renovation of the building we occupy 48 South Summit Street*) - Total cost? $100,000 (*AKA Omar's purely arbitrary guesstimation based on previous conversations with other members*) - Requested from Knight? *$100,000* - Over how many years? 2 (*spread out the work! we're all doing this in our spare time after all*) - Synhak's operating revenues $ *???* and expenses $ *???* for the current year and the end date of our fiscal year - Attachments that would help Knight and they expect: - *Project Budget .. very important for completeness of form *(*Does the treasurer have this?)* - Existing funders (*Synhak Membership*) - Any major expenses/capital equipment we plan to purchase (*LASERS! ZAP! uhhh... shoring up the south wall, more roof/ceiling repair, re-finishing the Perkins room, ELECTRICAL ELECTRICAL ELECTRICAL, plumbing* ) - Proposal Narrative (few paragraphs per each of the following): 1. Purpose of grant in one short sentence, *In order to create a more perfect hackerspace, we wish to renovate and improve the building occupied by said hackerspace.* 2. What is the project, *Project Edify* 3. List key activities and the timetable, including the grant start and end dates *???* 4. Why is this a fit for Knight Foundation? *???* 1. Explain how you will intentionally engage the community, improve or provide access to information flow, and address the Akron strategy of engaging and retaining the next generation of talent. *See www.synhak.org http://www.synhak.org* 5. What are our outcomes? 1. *Laser cutter!* 2. *Safer more energy efficient building* 3. *attract more members with a more attractive infrastructure* 6. Measuring success? 1. List the metrics that we will use to track the success of our outcomes *BUZZWORDS* On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 5:52 PM, gs volt gsvo...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, Knight Foundation has emailed me a Grant Proposal Form. About Knight Foundation: Knight Foundation focuses on projects that promote informed and engaged communities. In Akron, we are supporting talent attraction and retention necessary to build a 21st century economy. This Grant Proposal Form form is used to evaluate whether Knight supports an organization's work. In this form, I plan to declare to Knight what we need help with. Ofcourse, I need help with coming up with what we need help with :) I'm planning to meet in person with anyone interested in helping with filling this form on Thu Feb 13th at 6pm at our new location at 48 S Summit St for a discussion. Until then, here are the important things in the form that we can all individually think about responses to (mostly a plaintext copy paste of things in the form that I thought were important): - Does Synhak plan to use a fiscal agent? (if not, Knight recommends Miami Foundation) - Proposal for a project - Total cost? $ - Requested from Knight? $ - Over how many years? - Synhak's operating revenues $ ... and expenses $... for the current year and the end date of our fiscal year - Attachments that would help Knight and they expect: - *Project Budget .. very important for completeness of form* - Existing funders - Any major expenses/capital equipment we plan to purchase - Proposal Narrative (few paragraphs per each of the following): 1. Purpose of grant in one short sentence 2. What is the project 3. List key activities and the timetable, including the grant start and end dates 4. Why is this a fit for Knight Foundation? 1. Explain how you will intentionally engage the community, improve or provide access to information flow, and address the Akron strategy of engaging and retaining the next generation of talent. 5. What are our outcomes? 1. Indicate 2 or 3 concrete changes you would like to see in place at the end of your grant period 6. Measuring success? 1.
Re: [SH-Discuss] another zoning proposal
I will like to be on the committee. I can be there Monday. And my membership is in good standing. Andy On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 8:48 PM, degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: I will be available monday afternoon as well. -- *From:* Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net *To:* SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org *Sent:* Thursday, February 6, 2014 5:09 PM *Subject:* Re: [SH-Discuss] another zoning proposal On Thursday, February 06, 2014 16:12:00 Craig Bergdorf wrote: I'll happily draw it up as it's being discussed. I am also busy with SparkAK this weekend, what about tonight at 8? If not, then how about Monday? Monday works. Lets do Monday. I'll be there after 6 PM for more painting, so can we get a committee working by 8PM? We don't need to decide today of course. I'm busy with SparkAK all weekend but I'll have e-mail of course. On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Craig Bergdorf mm1...@gmail.com wrote: Right here for #5 On Feb 6, 2014 2:58 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.com wrote: So, who is going to be #5? Torrie @ 1324 Becca @ 1407 Justin @ 1408 Devin @ 1440 #5 @ ? Good to see that some of the members are interested and motivated to get the new floorplan finalized. On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:40 PM, degerov...@yahoo.com degerov...@yahoo.com wrote: I volunteer myself for the committee. Can we meet tomorrow at 7pm at the space? Devin. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Androidhttp://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android -- * From: * Becca Salchak blsalc...@yahoo.com; * To: * SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org; * Subject: * Re: [SH-Discuss] another zoning proposal * Sent: * Thu, Feb 6, 2014 7:07:38 PM Id like to volunteer myself for the committee On Feb 6, 2014 1:24 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Thursday, February 06, 2014 12:31:45 Philip P. Patnode wrote: Torrie is doing what she needs to do in the face of the continuing bickering, deal making, personal agendas, ego-driven land grabs, and the subtle obstructionism shown by some members over the floorplan. In the face of complete chaos and a looming deadline, form a committee. Yes, I am serious. Following the philosophy of action as a do'ocracy, some motivated members should assemble to discuss the floorplan and make a final decision. Five people, with sharp pencils and blank paper, can sketch out a compromise floorplan in under an hour. Add another half hour for coffee and revisions. This is an excellent idea. I think this could also be a wonderful experiment in an improved governance process for the space. Consensus is starting to fall apart. There was recently a large thread on noisebridge-discuss along the very same lines. I will look at their discussion and see what happened. I'm wholly in favor of such a committee producing a floorplan with this limited set of rules: * The floorplan is binding on The Community until March 2nd at 00:00 * No significant modifications may be done to the floorplan after the floorplan is approved without majority approval from the committee members * Any committee member may declare a modification to be significant such that it is required to be approved by the committee * The floorplan shall not include anything that cannot be uninstalled, moved, disassembled, or otherwise modified over a two day weekend after March 3rd without unaminous approval from the committee members * The committee is dissolved on March 2nd at 00:00 * Additions to the committee shall not change without majority approval from the committee members or a Membership proposal * Committee discussion and voting is held on the build@ list * The SYNHAK Secretary is responsible for maintaining the committee membership roster * The roster and any other commitee records are made public to The Membership * Only Active Members in Good Standing are permitted to be a committee member * Committee members may resign at any time, only in writing to the committee After a decision has been made, print out a few copies to work from and start moving stuff into the designated areas. The members will take it from there, knowing that a final floorplan exists. If this doesn't sound like a workable solution, then just keep on bickering and squabbling about where to put things or who gets his way about this or that. Of course, the opening day celebration might have to be moved to August 1st if you keep up the noise level and refuse to cooperate with each other. Reminds me of 4th grade recess out on the
Re: [SH-Discuss] The Webcam
I would suggest that we have it film the front door, then we'll know if someone robs us. On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 11:25 PM, Michael Griesacker mgriesac...@gmail.comwrote: I don't care where its mounted, (besides the restrooms), but I do like the semi private areas idea. On Feb 4, 2014 11:20 PM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote: Seems fair. On Feb 4, 2014 11:01 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: Hi, all. I think this is something we should talk about briefly. We've now got internet at the space. The kiosk should be up tomorrow afternoon so we can start to figure out when anyone is around. The Webcam is also a big help with this so I'd like to have that ready again soon, but it needs a little more infrastructure in place (ipv4 port forwarding/nat) first. I've never really appreciated the spooky anonymous all-seeingness of the webcam. Thats why I worked to make sure the Perkins Room could be a rather private place. I'd like to have a similar environment at 48 S Summit. Any thoughts on where to put the webcam? I would think that putting it halfway down the hallway pointing towards the west wall could provide enough indication of activity without a significant reduction in privacy. It could easily show if any lights are on, with occasional glimpses of some activities. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[SH-Discuss] working at the space
Hey everyone I'm heading to the space today to work on the lights. Give me a call if you want to stop out (330)814-6103 Andy ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Notacon 11
I volunteered so I will be there this year :) On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:13 PM, alex kot alexk...@yahoo.com wrote: Friday and Saturdays (11th 12th) are the days that everything happens. The other two days are more of fillers. On Friday, January 31, 2014 3:00 PM, gs volt gsvo...@gmail.com wrote: I used to go frequently and it was awesome. This year I will try to at least catch one day out of the three, I'll see which day though. On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 1:21 PM, alex kot alexk...@yahoo.com wrote: Notacon is a art, technology, and hacker conference. Notacon 11 is April 10th - 13th in Cleveland. I am wonder if anyone is interesting in going with me? They have discounted rates for group passes and I also might look into getting a room at the Marriott it is located in. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- G | Gaurav Narain Saxena | (330) 283 - 4972 I am a Board Member at SYN/HAK http://www.synhak.org/: The Akron Hackerspace located at 48 S Summit St Akron Ohio 44308https://maps.google.com/maps?q=48+S+Summit+St+Akron+Ohio+44308 I am providing technical consulting services to Sherwin-Williamshttp://www.sherwin-williams.com/on behalf of Bennett Adelson http://www.bennettadelson.com/ (Microsoft Solution Center) located at 6050 Oak Tree Blvd, Cleveland, Ohio 44131https://maps.google.com/maps?q=6050+Oak+Tree+Blvd,+Cleveland,+Ohio+44131 I have also been providing solutions to non-trivial problems other businesses may have through my company Whiskey Bits LLC located in Portage Lakes, Ohio Learn more about things I have created by reading my About pagehttp://gsvolt.wordpress.com/about-2/on my blog http://gsvolt.wordpress.com/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[SH-Discuss] New SynHak flyers
Hey everyone. I was looking for some new flyers. I manage to make this one: http://files.meetup.com/6128572/Tear-off%20Flyer%20-%20calvinthedestroyer.pdf I was looking for that small square one, was this 404 it? : http://static.synhak.org/documents/docs/flyer.pdf I bet it's on the server that's unplugged. If there are any other flyers that me and [u]everyone else[/u] can print out and hand out, please post a link to them. Also, feel free to try your hands at making your own design for SynHak. Andy ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] omgitsmaptime.com launches
Event 38 in Akron does stuff like that. http://www.event38.com/ Michael What mapping app software do you recommend? On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Michael Griesacker mgriesac...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks G, interesting On Jan 23, 2014 4:44 PM, gs volt gsvo...@gmail.com wrote: omgitsmaptime.com has launched online to teach interested readers how to get familiar with online mapping. I hear its a crucial civic hacking skillset to have. Here's an intro about them: Maptime is, rather literally, time for mapmaking. Our mission is to open the doors of cartographic possibility to anyone interested by creating a time and space for collaborative learning, exploration, and map creation using mapping tools and technologies. This open learning environment for all levels and degrees of knowledge offers intentional support for the beginner. Maptime is simultaneously flexible and structured, creating space for workshops, ongoing projects with a shared goal, and independent/collaborative work time. One of these projects is the the ABC’s of Cartographyhttps://github.com/maptime/abcs-of-cartography/wiki . Maptime was started as an idea at the 2013 State of the Map UShttp://stateofthemap.us/ conference, where some of the organizers – Beth and Camille – realized that they wanted to become better mapmakers, but were frustrated with the lack resources for learning how to make them. At the same time, discussions were emerginghttps://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/diversity-talk/ about creating diversity in the Open Street Map community. Maptime is an answer to both calls— how to learn, and how to engage a diverse group of people. Inspiration for Maptime comes from both hack nights and knitting circles. Both are models of spaces for people to create and learn together. Our goal is to provide this space with an open heart and without pretension. You can bring your own projects to work on, or just hang out and socialize or ask questions. Some people are experts, and some people are just getting started, but all of us are learning, so why not do it together? That’s our story. Come be a part of it. Maps for all forever! If its something you've always been curious about, get involved electronically and make cool stuff. Regards, -- G | Gaurav Narain Saxena | (330) 283 - 4972 I am a Board Member at SYN/HAK http://www.synhak.org: The Akron Hackerspace located at 48 S Summit St Akron Ohio 44308https://maps.google.com/maps?q=48+S+Summit+St+Akron+Ohio+44308 I am providing technical consulting services to Sherwin-Williamshttp://www.sherwin-williams.com/on behalf of Bennett Adelson http://www.bennettadelson.com/ (Microsoft Solution Center) located at 6050 Oak Tree Blvd, Cleveland, Ohio 44131https://maps.google.com/maps?q=6050+Oak+Tree+Blvd,+Cleveland,+Ohio+44131 I have also been providing solutions to non-trivial problems other businesses may have through my company Whiskey Bits LLC located in Portage Lakes, Ohio Learn more about things I have created by reading my About pagehttp://gsvolt.wordpress.com/about-2/on my blog http://gsvolt.wordpress.com/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] The last weekend of moving
I am going to try to bring my truck to the space's tomorrow (Friday, 24 5/6pm) to help with moving more stuff. It's a 1979 GMC 1/2 ton, 8' bed with a cap. If you don't see me there, I ether over slept or the truck broke down ( I haven't driven it in over a year) Andy (330)814-6103 On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 1:14 AM, Craig Bergdorf mm1...@gmail.com wrote: I just want to remind everyone, ate today: tons of problems in the world, have not ate today: one problem (get food). We have one week to finish moving, I feel compelled to mention that at the end of next week anything we leave in the fridge will most likely be lost when we relinquish the space forever to it's owner next Friday. Most (including myself) are only available on the weekends, this weekend is the last we get. There isn't a huge amout left, but it is far too much for a few to handle. One more assembly and we can move the space for good to our new location. This is the last push, and there is a lot left. As with last week, I will be there on point Sunday at noon, Who has Saturday? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Foot traffic
Akron is a bad part of Akron. Hopefully SynHak can make it better. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Jan 22, 2014 5:17 PM, Martin Pinkston martinpinks...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if anyone has really taken serious notice of the local foot traffic at Summit yet or not. However, it generally appears to be homeless individuals walking a daily circuit until the shelters open in the evening. Not all homeless are violent; however, I have yet to see any unscrupulous person carrying a sign, warning of the potential for danger. That being said, be aware of your surroundings at all times inside and outside the building. A safe assumption would be everyone of them carries at least a box cutter for self defense. Just my $.02 ...and 21 W. North felt safer or something? Take Care Have fun Always. Martin Pinkston RN ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] January Dues
I'm paid till Thursday. :) On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote: Should we be getting invoiced if dues are due? On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: Hey, folks. Where are everyone's January dues? Pretty sure I'm not crazy, but I haven't seen too many people showing up except those who paid with cash or Dwolla. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[SH-Discuss] SynHak Renovations Fundraiser
Would it be possible to do a fundraiser to help with SynHak's renovation expenses? I asked like two members about the idea and they seemed to like it. One suggested a Silent Auction. If you have a suggestion for a fundraiser please post it in a reply to this email (for now) and then we can go over the suggestions at the next meeting. Plus this would be another opportunity to bring new faces to the space. Andy ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] SynHak Renovations Fundraiser
Hmm, we have Devin's GREAT STUFF art sculpture. Omar's link gave me an idea, instead of a Walk-a-Thon we can have a Build-A-Thon Participants get to keep their creations, winner gets some sort of prize, And we get rid of the junk pile :) On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 3:40 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: I know that techsoup.org has grantstation software that assists with applying for and writing grants. But its currently one hundred bucks :( http://www.techsoup.org/grantstation?cg=sp On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 3:36 AM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 03:02:32 Andrew Buczko wrote: Would it be possible to do a fundraiser to help with SynHak's renovation expenses? I asked like two members about the idea and they seemed to like it. One suggested a Silent Auction. If you have a suggestion for a fundraiser please post it in a reply to this email (for now) and then we can go over the suggestions at the next meeting. Plus this would be another opportunity to bring new faces to the space. Andy * Our building is rather old * We're a non-profit * Many of us are focused on rebuilding a city recovering from poor economic times * We're an educational center Some organizations who are some of the above are often elliglble for grant money. We've proven that such an idea can actually thrive in the city, and I can't imagine we would need to work too hard to prove that we've done good things. I don't have the time to figure out the grant process though :( ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Issues at new space Large and Small
Yeah, like Omar said, I stopped in at the new space once and it felt warm and that was with the thermostat all the down at 50 :) Devin might have some cement/motar stuff that you can use to seal those cracks. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Lets remember that this is by far a vast improvement to 21 W. North St. where you'd arrive during the winter and its 35 degrees inside the space and it would take the Perkins room hours to get to 60 degrees. The thermostat could keep the new space at a low enough temp to save money when no one is there but not low enough to be unbearable when you arrive, opening the space sets the temp to where our patrons will be warm and comfortable and then back down again when its closed. This is of course after we've patched all the places where we're losing tremendous amounts of heat. We also need to switch our gas utility bill to a budgeted plan where we pay the amount all year round to avoid HUGE winter usage bills. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote: IMO heat being 50 is perfectly fine for working. If I am working on something less physical I might opt to turn on a space heater and heat my small area more. I know other would prefer warmer temps and that is fine. A programmable thermostat set to run from 4 till 8 is SO much better than running it all the time. The thing is as we build membership we WILL be running the heater more. Unfortunately we are heating empty spaces 16 hours a day. insert sad panda On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Byron Moran byrondmo...@gmail.comwrote: The idea of a programmable thermostat is that it warms it up for you before you arrive. Tying it into the open / closed sign is the equivalent of buying a remote start for your car and turning it on as soon as you get in the car. It's 15 degrees out, and it would be really frustrating to have to wait an hour every time you come in the space for it to be a reasonable temperature. I understand saving money, and something like a Nest will do that, but you have to expect some costs as far as heating, and be a ble to budget enough to keep your patrons warm and comfortable. Just an outside opinion. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.comwrote: Good catch Justin! I can see why those would be hard to spot. I know there was some talk about having a programmable thermostat but realistically, keyholders come in and out at all random times and sometimes the open hours don't happen exactly on time or the person has a sudden thing come up so that would leak money at times too. Once we're settled in, a solution may be to tie the temperature setting to opening and closing the space so when you click on open space thermostat is set to X degrees. Click close space, it goes back down to X degrees On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.comwrote: Hey folks, I stopped in the new space to drop a few things off and I decided I would check a few repairs out. First, The work that has been completed looks awesome. It is really coming together. The team that preformed the move really got a lot done. Not enough thanks can be given to the people who have taken a blight on Summit St. and made it into a functional space. Unfortunately I see a few issues (that may or may not be know to all) 1. The space is heated but it seemed warm. This is cool when hacking is happening BUT expensive when it is not. We MUST work a plan together to deal with lowering the heat when the space is not occupied. (I did not know where the thermostat was to turn it down so I did not make any actions for this.) 2. Above the back 40's heater is a GIANT HOLE. It appears to be a vent hole and may already have a plan to be resolved BUT at the current moment $ is flowing out the space. As the heater runs heat flows out and to the ceiling and right next to the heater vent is this 8-12 inch hole. This must be fixed ASAP. 3. The front garage door has large leaks of air. Replacement of the door would be a more expensive project but buying weather trim and putting up a plastic door (similar to the common space-back 40) would help considerably.) 4. There are numerous holes in the mortar that need filled. When I was in the space previously I didn't see many of these issues as it was dark outside but in the light of day they become VERY clear. I have an album of pictures in an album I hope these help to clear things up. SynHak - https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bxw1KFspeHRrUHQzSFlfZ1Z1bzQusp=sharing Once again GREAT JOB! Much Love Justin ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Thanks, Byron D
Re: [SH-Discuss] 48 Summit St front room discussion thread
I shouldn't have to explain this... Every time you start a project you run into expenses. Yes we can recycle what materials we have but there's always something else needed to get the project done. Personally, I'm done with this, so so already started tearing out the wall, so fuck it! lets just gut the whole fucking place! On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Andy, I also emailed the start of this thread to bu...@synhak.org, discuss is what responded first. A few questions for you Andy: It's a nice little room, we can use for what ever we want, if you take it away then all we'll have is big empty space. It won't be empty, it would be built into the welcome bar. The whole reason we moved to 48 Summit is because we need more space, are you saying we now have too much? How does keeping the walls make it less empty? we don't have the money to build new walls. Why would we need to build new walls there? Why would a Synhak office absolutely require walls? If a separate office is needed, a walled off area right by the front door is not a good place to have one, so a room to our specifications would need to be constructed anyway but in a different place at the space as a long term project heck we still have to fix the ceiling first. Plus if you take out the wall you then have to fix the ceiling, who wants to look at a bunch of gaps? That's a good point. Was this part of the ceiling not included in our estimates regarding roof repair? What is required to fix it, how much wood? how much in ceiling tile? Can we get a hardware store to donate the materials for a donation tax receipt? Andrew, you're right remodeling is expensive, we still have plenty of wood at our disposal and we've reclaimed even more from both 21 W North and 48 Summit. what do we think are the expenses associated with turning the room into a welcome area/paperwork repository? And what materials and expertise do we already have on hand to make it happen? I can think of floor tileand ceiling repair though I have very little experience with carpentry and building repair so I couldn't begin to guess how much work and material would be needed. Thank you for sharing. On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 10:24 AM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote: I thunk it would be nice if that area were a reception type desk welcome bar type structure that housed paper work. As far as walks are concerned i think half height walls would be nice as this allows people to see the whole space but still restricts access to documents. locked drawers they are only open during filing keeps privacy concerns satisfied but still allows for any member to get blank forms for visitors. That said remodeling is expensive, we have other more pressing expenses like getting up to code properly installed outlets in the main shop so people can hack. I think we need to prioritize our spending and realize we can't do it all at the same time. For me removing existing infrastructure only to modify it slightly is a frivolous expense we can't shots right now. We should save for and do it this year, in the next six months money permitting. Also every project we start now is one more we have to finish by opening day. And we already have quite a list. regards, Andrew L On Jan 19, 2014 1:12 AM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Sunday, January 19, 2014 00:33:16 Omar Rassi wrote: 1) Are we keeping the room or are we taking down the wall with the closet/shelves? Torrie's argument is compelling, though I leaned towards keeping the room as is, I am now indifferent to walls up or down. 2) If we are keeping the room, for what purpose will it fulfill? Crafts? Admin office/recordkeeping? servers? Member storage? Computer lab? Lounge? Etc etc. I had envisioned a place where Synhak Inc. office could go. A place where the office of secretary, treasurer, and the champions, could work on the not so exciting parts of running a non-profit with minimal distraction from hackers hacking. It would be a room to keep important paper records that we are required to have on file in a controlled place to prevent tampering (we've never had an issue with this in the past, its just a perspective of assurance from a 3rd party perspective i.e. How can we guarantee the records are true if anyone can walk in and change the paper documents when a member's back is turned?) 3) Do we even need walls for those purposes? In other words, if it does come down, will that detract from anyone's desires for how to use the space? A bolted and locked file cabinet and appropriate file permissions (read-write access for officers and champions, read-only access for everyone else) placed on a workstation designated for office use can accomplish the same records assurance mentioned above while keeping the digital copies open and transparent. So perhaps a walled off area may
Re: [SH-Discuss] 48 Summit St front room discussion thread
To do it right we will need more time and money, two things that we don't have, heck we still have to fix the ceiling first. Plus if you take out the wall you then have to fix the ceiling, who wants to look at a bunch of gaps? Plus fixing the ceiling will take more money that we don't have. Removing all the walls will make it harder to hear the space. It's a nice little room, we can use for what ever we want, if you take it away then all we'll have is big empty space. We need some rooms to divide things off. Yes that office is small but we don't have the money to build new walls. I'm in favor of building accordion walls for the back 40 that can be used to divide that large section into 3 separate areas. But that will have to wait for more finances or free wood. My thoughts on the kitchen is right in the back in front of the basement stairs, or in the middle of the back 40. But I'm not sure. I would like to set the kitchen up in both spots to see what feels right. Also, this discussion should be moved to the Build mailing list. On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Sunday, January 19, 2014 00:33:16 Omar Rassi wrote: 1) Are we keeping the room or are we taking down the wall with the closet/shelves? Torrie's argument is compelling, though I leaned towards keeping the room as is, I am now indifferent to walls up or down. 2) If we are keeping the room, for what purpose will it fulfill? Crafts? Admin office/recordkeeping? servers? Member storage? Computer lab? Lounge? Etc etc. I had envisioned a place where Synhak Inc. office could go. A place where the office of secretary, treasurer, and the champions, could work on the not so exciting parts of running a non-profit with minimal distraction from hackers hacking. It would be a room to keep important paper records that we are required to have on file in a controlled place to prevent tampering (we've never had an issue with this in the past, its just a perspective of assurance from a 3rd party perspective i.e. How can we guarantee the records are true if anyone can walk in and change the paper documents when a member's back is turned?) 3) Do we even need walls for those purposes? In other words, if it does come down, will that detract from anyone's desires for how to use the space? A bolted and locked file cabinet and appropriate file permissions (read-write access for officers and champions, read-only access for everyone else) placed on a workstation designated for office use can accomplish the same records assurance mentioned above while keeping the digital copies open and transparent. So perhaps a walled off area may not be necessary as I previously thought. Objectively thinking about it, creating a welcome area out of that room would not lessen my desire to use the space and could provide a wow factor for visitors and guests, I can think of alternatives to achieve my desired goals for a Synhak Inc. Office. Thank you. It is important that we all try to be as pragmatic as possible when considering how to best allocate the finite volume we have available to us. I feel the quantity of shared space should be maximized as it gives others the broadest canvas that this building can provide, until it becomes more beneficial to the community to do otherwise. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:24 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Saturday, January 18, 2014 22:26:49 Omar Rassi wrote: There may be some miscommunication/misunderstanding about the front room at 48 Summit St. So lets talk about what to do with that room. The original plan was to remove all the walls, shelving and cabinetry to give us a large open area to do what we wish with and turn one of its walls into a welcome bar like at the old space. However, it appears that some members want to keep the small office-ish type room for various reasons (each person in favor of keeping the room has a different idea). So lets discuss! Key points of discussion: 1) Are we keeping the room or are we taking down the wall with the closet/shelves? I would prefer to remove the closet side wall of that room and create a new welcome bar from the other wall of the room by cutting it to only a few feet tall. This would create a very open and inviting physical space. 2) If we are keeping the room, for what purpose will it fulfill? Crafts? Admin office/recordkeeping? servers? Member storage? Computer lab? Lounge? Etc etc. If someone is intending on turning it into some form of member storage, SYNHAK, Inc office, or server closet, I think it would be wise to remember that we have a massive basement that has not yet been spoken for in any significant capacity and will likely see the smallest fraction of actual foot traffic in
Re: [SH-Discuss] Mural on our exterior wall
hmm, would like to see some samples of their work first, ok. I was thinking of white walls with two pin strips, one orange and one blue. Does that sound good? affordable? On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 1:49 AM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: Thoughts on trying to get a local artist to paint an Akron-inspired mural on our exterior wall? Might be fun to be a recurring thing that changes every so often, provided that the membership approves any proposed design. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] SynHak Speaker Bureau
You can add my name to the soldering one. Other idea's: * MineCraft servers, how to setup and run * Battle Bots * Talk on how to cosplay * Data recovery Technics * Going green, moving off the grid On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote: I think it might be wise to start talking about our speaker bureau in the new space as It would be REALLY smart to be able to tell people about some upcoming events when we have our Open House on March 1st. Maybe we could get some topics together and getting volunteers to start building talks around these topics. Create a flyer and start announcing it. I have started a list of ideas herehttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ahw1KFspeHRrdEVNVG5FZVB5VlRYSFZXaV9TVTRqT3cusp=sharing, I know some have been said before BUT I know we have had a LOT of new faces and maybe some of them would also be interested in hearing these talks. In addition I think that most of these topics could be expanded into advanced topics if the interest was there. So... Please look though the list, add to it, add notes, and start thinking how you can share your passion and experience with others in the space. Justin ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Hackerspace Passport Stamp
Cool, We can have the Syn/Hak, We Make Akron moto in it too On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 2:56 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote: I will try to have a design for consideration by the meeting on Tuesday. I encourage anyone else(Torrie? ) with design ideas to do the same so we can have people vote on their favorite. I don't see a date for when he wants them made but we should probably have a deadline just to keep us on our toes. Things to consider in designing: stamps are small so tons of text won't turn out well. Don't put things on it that are likely to change(ie; addresses) over the the life span of SynHak. in short, Thanks for the heads up Chris. in excellence, Andrew On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote: I think its a GREAT Idea! I purchased 9 HackerSpace Passports and MiFareClassic RFID Stickers with the idea that I could get the door setup with RFID. I figured I would sell them to members who might be interested and donate everything to the space. Purchase cost was ~6 bucks each and I thought I would suggest a donation of 10 bucks. Justin On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.comwrote: Hi all, Some of you may follow the hackerspaces.org discuss list, and if you do, you may have caught this thread which was started last night: http://lists.hackerspaces.org/pipermail/discuss/2014-January/008747.html In short, Daniel is offering to make stamps for hackerspaces that wish to have a hackerspace passport stamp. We just need to provide a vector graphic of what we want on ours. I'm thinking we take the logo, put I VISITED above it and Akron, Ohio USA below it. What do you guys think? Anyone got the time and skill to throw something like this together? Chris ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] The damaged car parked at the space...
I agree with Chris, Don't touch it, let the cops deal with it. On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.comwrote: Just called Tony. Got his voicemail, left a message, and received a text back saying he would be home Sunday night. Im deferring this until Monday at the earliest. Chris Sent from my iPhone On Dec 26, 2013, at 14:20, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.com wrote: Agreed. It doesn't belong to SYN/HAK, so we shouldn't touch it. Its rear passenger-side wheel is missing, and is sitting on a cinderblock, so it was likely towed there. It also has collision-wrap over where the driver-side window was. Also, it may actually be in the way during the move, given its proximity to the overhead door we will be moving most of our stuff out of. If Tony doesn't know anything about it, I'll be calling APD and asking them to take a report on the vehicle today. G, mind giving Tony a call this afternoon? Chris On 12/26/2013 1:36 PM, J. F. Corner wrote: It's better to just file a report at that point. Let APD figure out the owner. You should never go into a vehicle that isn't yours, whether it's abandoned or not. On 12/26/2013 13:29, Justin Herman wrote: It makes sense to check with membership about this. But unless it stops us from moving I wouldn't worry about it any further. Is it unlocked? Maybe it has registration. Also the license plate tags should have he birthday Of the registrant on it. On Thursday, December 26, 2013, Omar Rassi wrote: Why do we care who's car it is? It's none of ours and when we leave Tony/APD can take care of it. I thought maybe someone brought it so they can hack/repair it at Synhak. With us moving I was concerned about someone needing to arrange relocation for their vehicle. If it doesn't belong to anyone who comes to Synhak, then at this point it's truly Tony's problem... although, its in the way of the loading dock... On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote: Quick question. Why do we care who's car it is? It's none of ours and when we leave Tony/APD can take care of it. On Thursday, December 26, 2013, Chris Egeland wrote: Agreed. Since we aren't the building owners, we should verify with the Tony et al to make sure that he isn't just using the parking lot to keep a car he owns there. If he doesn't know anything about it (G, would you mind calling Tony?), I'll call APD and inform them next time I'm at the space (tonight or whenever). Do we know what day the vehicle appeared on the lot? That would be useful for APD to know. Chris On 12/26/2013 10:47 AM, gs volt wrote: Before reporting, check with Tony and his son is what I'd say On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Thursday, December 26, 2013 03:22:28 Craig Bergdorf wrote: Or, put a sign declaring that area an extension of the hack pile :) it is hurting anything by being there? No, but I think reporting it is the right thing to do. On Dec 26, 2013 1:51 AM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Sunday, December 22, 2013 02:39:06 Omar Rassi wrote: Does anyone know what the white, damaged car on a cinder block is about? We're getting very close to a decision on a new home for Syn/Hak and if it belongs to anyone that uses Syn/Hak they should consider doing something with it very very soon. No idea. I suggest someone calls the cops and reports it as an abandoned vehicle this week. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- G | Gaurav Narain Saxena | (330) 283 - 4972 I am a Board Member at SYN/HAK http://www.synhak.org: The Akron Hackerspace located at 21 W North St, Akron, Ohio 44304
Re: [SH-Discuss] APOC kit
You can also use some Orange Pottery or Mantels from Lanterns On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote: This sounds sweet On Tuesday, December 24, 2013, J. F. Corner wrote: Ah! Good thinking! On 12/24/2013 15:33, Jimmy Carter wrote: You could use the radioactive source in many smoke detectors. -Jimmy Carter On 12/24/2013 03:31 PM, J. F. Corner wrote: Only problem is, you'd need a source of radiation to trigger the detector. Although, if you had a source disc, it could work. Just let me know where to send it. Jake On 12/24/2013 14:57, Chris Egeland wrote: Oh wow, David, I really REALLY like that idea. This could be a really badass source of entropy for cryptographic purposes. What's that, you use Dual_EC_DRBG for your PRNG? Didn't you hear about the RSA scandal? Well, I did, so I use a gamma particle detector instead. /cryptonerd Let's talk about this after the new year. Jake, I'll accept the APOC and promise to use it for good things. Chris On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 2:27 PM, David Morley davemor...@gmail.com mailto:davemor...@gmail.com wrote: Hook it up to the internet and use it to generate genuine random numbers - given that the uncertainty principle is truly valid. On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 12:10 PM, J. F. Corner j...@5n4k3.com mailto:j...@5n4k3.com wrote: I have an APOC basic kit up for grabs for whomever wants to build it. As long as you make it and donate it for use by the space(s). The APOC is a gamma particle detector that will help you learn about radiation and find radioactive things! http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/excelphysics/apoc-mini-radiation-detector?ref=live Thanks, Jake @ CanHax ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org mailto:Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org mailto:Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Short term and mid term plans
tmazazanec1, We have a 3D printer at the space. If you come down I will gladly help you print something out. Also, you are welcome to give your speech at SynHak too On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:43 PM, David Morley davemor...@gmail.com wrote: One tidbit: In the opinion of The Economist, 3D printing will break out much bigger next year when some important patents on sintering technology expire. On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 4:45 PM, tmazan...@juno.com tmazan...@juno.comwrote: I figure 3D printing is about 40 years behind computing in transforming society. I enjoyed the Computer Revolution, and I look forward to having that fun again. In the near term, I am a member of Toastmasters. I would like my next speech to be a speech to inform about 3D printing. Is there any advice or tips on speaking to groups unfamiliar with 3D printing about the topic? For example, is there an easy way for me to get ahold of an item that was 3D printed? In the mid term, I learned about computers in the Seventies by first reading about them (I have several books on 3D printing on my Kindle, with 3D Printing for Dummies pre-ordered) and then joining the Computer Club at CWRU to get experience before I bought my Apple ][+. So that might be a good way for me experience 3D printing. I posted a thread on a 3D printing forum and they directed me to you. Thank you for any help. Tom Mazanec Twinsburg, Ohio Do THIS before eating carbs #40;every time#41; 1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar decrease fat storage http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/52b8af1b266082f1b2df7st02duc ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Open Hours
(330)814-6103 I don't hold open hours but if you need access to the space call me and I'll let you in, since I live like 5min away. *You may have to wake me up :) On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Bethany Munyan beth.mun...@gmail.comwrote: TWIMC, Hello! So I am asking anyone who holds hours or who fills in for hours that if they can not make it on time, that they inform everyone via the discussion list until we come up with a better schedule. Today I got to the space at four thirty thinking it would be open (since we open at four) and no one was here. As a member who doesn't have a key yet (Andrew, if you are reading this, I filled out the application I believe early last week, please get on that), and as a member who has a long drive to get here, this is very frustrating. If someone can't make hours, that's fine whatever. But please, notify the discuss list BEFORE open hours are meant to start. Hopefully we can soon figure something out so one person doesn't volunteer for the majority of the hours anymore, since that isn't very fair. Happy Hacking! -Beth ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] recent and future donations to synhak
Speaking for myself, I don't think non-members should be left with junk. I want everyone to be able enjoy the space. It is for this reason that with the recent growth of Synhak, and a steady stream of donations have been coming in. It would not be excellent for one person to claim something that could be $300 in value especially when we're clamoring for funds for a bigger space. A simple procedure that places the needs of the space as a community over an individual, to quote Ambassador Spock, The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few. My thoughts: Well this all depends on Time and Money. Yes you might find a laptop worth $300 in the donated stuff, but do you really want to spend the next month digging through junk to find it? or do you want to work on your next project? Even the ones that are not worth $$$ You still need to buy a charger and hard drive, that's $40 to $60 just to get one up and running plus $$ for your time spent working on it. My concern is that I don't want SYNHAK to become a recycling center and or computer repair shop. I am in good favor of dating all of the donated stuff so that it does not sit around forever and choke up our working space. We should defiantly give everyone a fare chance to claim stuff from the donations. I'll try to be at the meeting to join in the discussion there. Bethany, when I worked at the Salvation Army thrift store, we had a different color for each week of the month, everything that was sorted and placed in week one got a pink tag, week two was blue, three was green, and four was white. If white tags were coming out on the floor, that meant blue tags were the oldest (and therefore 50% off). The end of the week saw the sale tag down to 1 dollar whatever it was... BUT... high value items like designer ?handbags (Gucci, Louis Vuitton, etc.) or a solid oak bedroom set were exempt from these sales. I feel a similar tagging system can work for everyone. I'm sorry, but I hate that method. The thrift store is for people that cannot afford nice things so they buy second hand. What ticks me off is that if I buy some nice things and then give them to the thrift store, I expect to see them on the shelf for $1 to $5 just like everything else. Not on the online store going for list price. (I donated them so that some poor kid could enjoy them, not for a retailer to profit) On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Saturday, December 07, 2013 22:48:19 Philip P. Patnode wrote: Omar, Thanks for the directive to just take it and move on with my project. Unfortunately, that is not possible for me to do at this time. It is obvious from the contributors to this thread that there are different points of view and positions on the issue of this specific HP laptop and about other high value donated items in general. Before I would agree to accept the donated laptop, I would insist on a consensus of opinion by a majority of SH members. This is the best course of action. Its obviously not something that we can just forget about without coming to a solid conclusion we're all happy with. Perhaps the situation can be resolved in my favor at the next SH meeting on Tuesday evening. If the laptop does wind up in my possession, I definitely will seek out your guidance and opinion as I proceed with my project. Your knowledge and experience in computer repair and maintenance was previously highlighted by several SH members, all of whom recommended that I ask for your help in dealing with my non-functioning machine as a project. Until another day, Philip On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 9:27 PM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding the particular notebook in question: Philip, just take it. This drama is just too much for me, I see an opportunity for synhak to be able to shorten a funding gap with the recent massive donation of high value computers and instead I get a rain of guilt and have to justify trying to prioritize the needs of the community as a whole. Philip, I am still willing to help you with your personal HP laptop in the troubleshooting process, I'm just tired of this thread. I'm not going through all that equipment anymore, hack away! On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: Justin, No need to identify the first SH member who first assured me that I could claim and make use of the HP laptop since it was in the clearly marked Junk Pile. No need to identify the second SH member who suddenly took possession of the laptop from me in the name of SYNHAK, since it will not serve a useful purpose. The issue is about procedures or policies at SH, not individuals. The whole process of donations and the junk pile should be discussed by the SH membership. Solutions to the obvious problems are needed. Just to be clear about my intentions, the
Re: [SH-Discuss] Preliminary inspection of recent donations!
I have put stickers on the items that I have brought in and I have had DO NOT HACK labels disappear, That's why the borg cube now has a double stacked stick of ram in it that had belonged to a workstation that I was trying to get up and running, and it had a do not hack sticker on the case. You shouldn't quit, you're smart enough to make it better. I just gave a shout out about it since It has been a while since I've worked on it and with things getting moved around there's a chance that the label might have fallen off. On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:34 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Chris's computer has a very clearly readable DO NOT HACK sticker on it. That means, it is being used by someone. Put a sticker on your Dell and put in in member storage. On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: I'm no longer doing anything with any computers at synhak Andy. Besides, if it belongs to you and not synhak then *you should clearly have it labeled as such* since there are now many new people coming to the space looking to do and make things and there could be confusion as to its purpose there. On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Andrew Buczko a4s...@dsprototyping.comwrote: Do not touch my Dell 670 Workstation, it is waiting on a new hard drive. On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.comwrote: I dont know when more will come down the line but when it does I will bring it in. On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.comwrote: Oh no no no no Thank YOU Justin! The 5 IBMs that pass POST but need work, we have the spare parts in what you donated to get them up and running, I'm hoping to sell them for synhak at $100 each with no HDD on craigslist and put some cash in the bank. Now that we are an actual 501c(3) I'd like to get you or the organization that owned these laptops a donation receipt. If I could place a number value on everything you brought in, I'd say it's between $1250 and $1750 depending on what's working or not. And you say there is more? :D On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.comwrote: Thank you Omar for taking on this project. I will have some later that might be available too. I might be able to get power adapters that dont look very good but that work But I will NOT be able to get HD as they are disposed of securely as we have to conform to HIPPA regulations. Be sure to tell the group what parts would be nice so if anyone comes across them we can bring them in. On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.comwrote: Howdy Hackers! So after Spacegiving today... ... nom... I took a look at all the computers donated by Justin Herman. Here is a preliminary report on the laptops: * 5 IBM Thinkpads of Core Duo or newer pass POST. ** They all need 2.5 SATA hard drives and power adapters before I can begin a full hardware test but otherwise are in GREAT condition. * 1 HP G7 has a Windows 7 COA and passes POST, this also needs a hard drive and power adapter before I can begin a full test. * 5 More IBM thinkpads pass POST but need some kind of work (missing palm rest, keyboard, broken LCD panel, etc.) **Once corrected, they just need a hard drive and power adapter to back to working order. * 2 OLDER (Pentium 4, Pentium M) IBM Thinkpads are working but are just really old to be of real use as a modern platform. They are immediately available for hacking. * One has water damage and is going to be scrapped * There are still some thinkpads that are in pieces that I need to go through. * The IBM desktops are not yet tested. I hope to keep the HP, and 3 of the best working laptops for use as public linux computers in the computer lab so that we can free up some desk space and allow the desktops to be re-purposed/hacked. One of the machines I hope to replace is the Electronics Lab Workstation and 2 IBM Thinkpads will replace linux based desktops in the computer lab. The HP is going to replace the main Office machine with the licensed copy of MS Office 2007 Professional (if anyone used it :/) I will soon be looking at all of the computing hardware at the space, cataloging them and selling unnecessary components/computers/parts to bring money into Synhak Inc. So here is the first warning: IF YOU HAVE ANY COMPUTER PARTS OR COMPUTERS HERE AT THE SPACE THAT YOU ARE CURRENTLY USING FOR A PROJECT OR *DOES NOT BELONG TO SYNHAK INC.* please ensure that it is clearly labeled as such so that I know not to *put it up for sale.* Thank you, and as always, if you have questions please ask me publicly or privately I care not how, just ask and I will do my best to give you an answer. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list
Re: [SH-Discuss] SYNHAK is now 501(c)3
Congradulation!! On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Sunday, December 01, 2013 19:32:07 alex kot wrote: Champagne for Tuesday meeting? Funnily enough, I still have the half-empty bottle of champagne that showed up for Opening Day in January. Its in my fridge. My fridge is disgusting. http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/blogs/6a00d8341bf67c53ef01675f980093970b-800wi . jpg On Sunday, December 1, 2013 10:23 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: Just got home and checked the mail. This big letter from the IRS says we're legit 501(c)3. Finally. I'll bring it with me to the space tomorrow for the secretary to file away in a safe spot. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Unified SYNHAK Code
https://synhak.org/wiki/Main_Page Now that looks great! Better than anything I can do (trust me I've tried) wiki hate me On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: Howdy, all. I'm continuing my rampage of wiki editing and space documentation. I trolled through all of our proposals and various unwritten rules about the space and documented what I came up with as part of a Unified SYNHAK Code: https://synhak.org/wiki/Unified_SYNHAK_Code Most of it is based on previously passed proposals. Some of the items there are based on generally accepted consensus that I think would take a whole proposal to modify, such as having meetings at 7:00 PM on a tuesday. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] synhak on facebook
Omar, I saw this ERROR also, you HAVE to search for SYN/HAK with capitals AND the slash otherwise you get the WRONG facebook page. On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: Omar, It is NOT fine. I searched for synhak from my FB page and found the two non-genuine pages for SH and no mention or referral to the real SH group page. I suspect that anybody who does the same - a search from a FB page - will wind up at the wrong page, as I did. It does a little bit of harm because new people who search will be sent to the incorrect page and not the official group page for SH. The two pages need to be removed promptly. Philip On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: I assure you it is fine. All the links on our website and reference material points to our facebook page. There is no need for us to hunt down another page that so far has only served to promote us at best, does us no harm at worst. On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: Bethany, Will send you screen prints of the two synhak pages I found when I searched for the Facebook page for the organization. Note that one has the address for SH as 21 W North St and the other shows it as 27 W North St They are being sent to your Gmail address, not discuss@synhak.org due to the message size restriction at SH. If the two pages shown in the screen prings are not authentic FB pages or were created due to check-ins/posts, I suggest that you or another member contact FB and have them deleted. There is enough confusion in the world as it is and three FB pages are not necessary, especially when two are not maintained or edited or monitored by SH. Philip On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Bethany Munyan beth.mun...@gmail.comwrote: This is the CURRENT facebook page, other than this one, I know of no others :) https://www.facebook.com/groups/260919133957886/ -Beth On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Chris Faircloth cnf2...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Look like locations created for check-ins/posts with that tagged as the location. Anyone can do that so sometimes you'll wind up with 2 or 3 extras with miscellaneous spellings from people trying to tag the location on their phones. -- *From:* Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.com *To:* SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org *Sent:* Thursday, November 28, 2013 9:13 PM *Subject:* [SH-Discuss] synhak on facebook TWIMC Who is responsible for creating and maintaining the Facebook page(s) for SH? Why are there two almost identical pages? FYI - one of the pages has the SH address as 27 N West St. See attached image. I suggest that the page in error be deleted and the remaining page be updated with pertinent and current information. Lack of basic information about SH, including SH links, is almost as bad as no information at all. Also, a nice photo or the SH logo should be added to the page. If a new photos of the work spaces at SH or the exterior of the building is wanted, I will be happy to wander down to the facility during a day when SH is open and take some photos for the FB page. If you need/want me involved in the FB page, feel free to contact me by email. PPP ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Basic prototyping kit opinions?
Philip, no, What I am suggesting is to go into the invention process as a business prospect. I.E. Did you do do a Patent Search to make sure that no one else has invented a Hawking clone ? Plus a clone such as a living being may not be patent-able. And you wouldn't be signing up for anything. You would be hiring a patent attorney, a doctor, and many other personnel to get your Hawking clone from idea to reality. Patients are not cheep, so you have to plan out how your are going to pay for one (I spent over $9,000.00 on mine and it took me 3 years to get it) If you have an idea I can help you with getting started. If I'm not around, then I recommend the Hudson Inventors group. Andy On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: @Andrew Are you saying I get a *patient* if I start the funding part of a new product/invention process? Sign me up for a Hawking clone, please. This will be so cool! On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 12:35 AM, alex kot alexk...@yahoo.com wrote: I bought a Starter Kit made by OSEPP from microcenter, not as cool as the one Torrie showed from SparkFun. I know Microcenter sells SparkFun products, but I am not sure if they have the one she listed yet. Might stop by next time when I am at work (Microcenter is up in Cleveland). On Thursday, November 28, 2013 12:28 AM, Andrew Buczko a4s...@dsprototyping.com wrote: prototyping kit for a brand new inventor The kit Torrie suggested looks great, and would be nice to have available at SynHak. When people ask about how to invent something, I like to talk to them about Starting their own business with the thing that they want to invent. Since you need to find some way to pay for everything that goes with getting a patient. There are a lot of things that people don't think about :) Hmm, I really need some free time so that I can write a talk about it. Andy PS, you can also contact the Hudson inventors group for suggestions too. On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 13:59:55 Pierce wrote: Hi all, Could I ask for an opinion from anyone who has a few minutes feels like weighing in? If I was trying to put together a prototyping kit for a brand new inventor, what would go into it? Goals: A really wide range of possible inventions. Functional, as well as representative, stuff, not *just* 'model of' stuff. A bunny slope learning curve. An exciting, real, substantive feel. Access to many different disciplines (mechanical, electrical, robotic, programming, crafty, modern material marvels, etc.?) of making and an encouragement to fuzz those lines! Ideal for a systems approach or big picture thinking approach to invention. Two cost types: 1.) the skies the limit 2.) $100 or $200 for two dozen inventors to take turns, in teams, for many dismantle-n-rebuild real inventions. I've given this bunches of thought but I would like to hear from other people with different ideas. If this is the wrong forum for this big a question, feel free to delete and respond with the appropriate e-chastisement. You might be looking for the Sparkfun Inventor's Kit as a source of inspiration for electronics: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11576 Its only $90 and would easily cover everything about electronics, programming, and a touch of robotics. I'm not sure for the other bits though. Thanks for everything and hello to all from Steph, (One of the new persons, with brown hair, who's been visiting lately.) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] PSA: SPACE IS NOT CURRENTLY OPEN
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/5615/open1x.jpg On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Craig Bergdorf mm1...@gmail.com wrote: with an update to the dns record at amazon the cam will be back up and running On Nov 26, 2013 11:50 PM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, so it appears that the kiosk didn't close the space. We are currently closed despite what live.synhak.org says at this time. Thank you ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] The Fridge
Hehe, I would use the fridge for the rare (press a gear onto a crank) trick where you freeze the crank and boil the gear. You can store Glue in the fridge to make it last longer. (-- might be a myth) Batteries. (-- also might be a myth) Fish Rubber for making slot car tires. On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 2:19 AM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.comwrote: What kind of non-food use? Bio projects? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 24, 2013, at 0:26, Andrew Buczko a4s...@dsprototyping.com wrote: I like free option, and bigger will be nice. Can we keep the smaller one for non-food use? If we have the space. On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Saturday, November 23, 2013 00:45:49 Bethany Munyan wrote: As someone who often fill up the fridge when I am there, I think a bigger fridge would be a good idea. If we have to wait until we move, then I don't think that would be a big deal. We can always look on craigslist if we have to. -Beth Yeah, I agree. We do need a bigger fridge. We can't fit a bigger one in the space easily, but I'm open to the idea of using my garage as storage for new things we want to acquire but don't have the space for 'till we get a bigger location. Its only 8 minutes away up in North Hill. On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:59 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote: A second fridge would be a great addition. Then we could have a soft drink fridge and an adult beverage fridge. This will assuage some concerns if we ever have school groups at the space or members not of age. We had discussed an adult fridge this spring and just never got around to it due to other pressing matters. regards, Andrew On Nov 22, 2013 2:56 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.com wrote: Chris Alex Omar and anybody else that has an interest in a bigger refrigerator - If SH is willing to wait, I can probably obtain a full size refrigerator for FREE, sometime in the near future. Could be anytime from next week to a day in the next few months. I have access to a location where many working household appliances are discarded on a regular basis. In the last few months, several refrigerators, a freezer, a washer/dryer combo, two stoves, and lots of small appliances were placed by the dumpster and abandoned. Any one or all of them could have become SH property on request. If a frig becomes available, SH will have to pickup the item on short notice (24 hrs or less) and remove it from the property. Also, there is no choice of color or size or model or brand or age. If a 10-yr old Amana side-by-side, model #333, in bright periwinkle shows up, that is what the org will get. Somebody let me know if I should add a frig to the list of wanted for free that I maintain for family and friends. PPP On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed, its overkill. We need to be more diligent about replacing the drink we take out of the fridge. Take one, place one... On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:37 PM, alex kot alexk...@yahoo.com wrote: I think it is overkill. A full size fridge isn't cheap, plus we are planning to move sometime soon. Maybe in march we can rebring this up when it starts to get warm. -- On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 2:23 PM EST Chris Egeland wrote: So, I mentioned this to Torrie the other day at the space, and I figured I'd bring it up here because, well, why not. We probably need a bigger fridge soon. Right now, it's not mission critical because we're TECHNICALLY not out of space, but the fridge we have does get emptied VERY quickly. We keep a bit of a stockpile under the counter in the kitchen area of beverages, but that sits there unrefrigerated which sucks in the summer and the Mountain Dew is 95 degrees Fahrenheit (35C for you people in every other country than the USA, Liberia and Burma). So, I'm gonna ask you guys: Do you think a full-size fridge is overkill for our needs? It would provide us with an actual freezer instead of a small box that grows ice around it every three months, which would be nice. It would also give us the ability to keep much more foodstuff at a comfortably refrigerated temperature. I'm asking for your input before I start hunting for a fridge. What does everyone think? Chris ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman
Re: [SH-Discuss] An improved Google Profile
Phong Phoo LMAO! great work Torri! On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Friday, November 22, 2013 13:09:05 Omar Rassi wrote: Insert Phoo pun here. Is there an access list for who can log into servi...@synhak.org? Kinda. Due to Google Pages' managers feature, the following people are managers of it: * Torrie * Chris * Omar * G That gives those people the ability to make Google+ posts, upload youtube videos, and modify our google maps data. They don't need to actually login with the servi...@synhak.org account. Chris, Craig, G, and I are the only ones who have access to the password for that account, which is stored in a keepass database on my laptop and on the sysadmin security repository. I've added that information to the Maintainers page: https://synhak.org/wiki/Maintainers I still need to document how the private security repository works though and who has access to it (Chris, Craig, G and I). I'll add it to the [[Sysadmin]] page later this evening while I hack on the prusa's new RAMBo board. On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.comwrote: I pity da Phoo who manages our Google+ profile! Good work, Torrie! On 11/22/2013 10:08 AM, Torrie Fischer wrote: On Friday, November 22, 2013 01:53:39 Andrew Buczko wrote: That sounds like it will work great for SynHak! Did they mention any communication solutions for large groups while you where there? PS, while this works great for SynHak, it totally sucks for fellow youtubers :( WE DON'T WANT TO USE OUR REAL NAME! PSS, you might have to make up a real name for SynHak at one point. Yeah, I had to. I created Phong Phoo for servi...@synhak.org. On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: Heya, folks. I'm at this event down at Office Space Coworking: http://www.meetup.com/Startup-Akron-Office-Space-Coworking/ events/14845239 2/ Ellen K. Martin is giving a very informative talk on how to effectively use Google+ for businesses. Yeah, we're not much of a business, but it is still incredibly useful for our visibility. Things I've learned: * I can finally transfer ownership of the Google+ Page to the servi...@synhak.org account, though it'll take two weeks since I just added servi...@synhak.org as the manager. Security concerns, I'm sure, which makes sense. * The Google+ Page can be linked to a youtube channel, where all our youtube videos show up on the Google+ page * When a page is linked to a channel, the managers can upload videos. This is incredibly useful, since we don't need the separate youtube@synhak.orgaccount anymore. I'm working on transferring the channel to the servi...@synhak.org account, though I'm not sure if I can do that properly. I might need to delete and re-upload, but our videos don't have a whole lot of activity. Yet. * The page can also be linked to the local listing that shows up in Google Maps. Also, working on doing that once the ownership is transferred. Apparently, the page dashboard shows all kinds of really useful metrics such as youtube data and the zipcodes of people who looked up directions. Right now, Chris, Omar, G and I are the managers for the page, along with the special servi...@synhak.org account. In two weeks, I'll transfer the page ownership to servi...@synhak.org. As soon as I figure out the password for yout...@synhak.org, I'll start migrating our videos and upload last night's Speaker's Bureau video. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2013-11-19
http://www.resourcemetalrecycling.com/
I believe that these guys will buy scrap electronics. You should call them
for details on what they will take.
Other than them I know some guys that will buy scrap electronics. I'll have
to remember to get there contact info for us.
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote:
fwd to Andrew
ref recycling computer/electronic stuff
check out this link =
http://epawebapps.epa.state.oh.us/Recyclers/jsp/results.jsp?category=7
some vendors pay money, some just take it and run away
in any event, the stuff stays out of the landfill
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Phong ph...@synhak.org wrote:
Ni hao, hakkers!
I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2013-11-19 and that the minutes
are posted. They are visible on the web at
https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2013-11-19. I've also included them in
this mail for reading at your leisure:
{{Infobox_meeting
|time=7PM
|date=2013-11-19
|venue=21 West North
|next=Meetings/2013-11-26
|previous=Meetings/2013-11-12
}}
= Agenda =
* '''Note Taker:''' Torrie Fischer
* '''Moderator:''' Chris Egeland
== Introduction and Names ==
* Chris - Admins Systems
* Matt - Makes software'
* Andrew - Checks new membership apps
* Tom - Medical Field
** Python Cleveland meeting, by Glenn
* Craig - Systems Integrator
* Devin - Gets robbed and revenge
* Tim - Robot Coach
* Kirby - Builds things
* Andy - Renders Videos
* Alex - IT Support
* Torrie - Implements RTP RFCs
* Stephanie - Works at InventNow in North Canton. Curriculum and content
person. Also a writer and creative person.
** Heard about it through InventNow's creative director
* Ander - Helps with some of the curriculum. Also making a card game
** Heard about it through Stephanie
* Adam - Student of Environmental Science
** Followed Stephanie and Adam
* Brinn - Student
** Followed Stephanie, Adam, and Ander
* Becca - Brings Cupcakes
== Announcements ==
* Devin sez: New scroll saw. Old scroll saw got sold to buy the new one
that was already bought. This is how credit works.
** There is also a torpedo heater that has no kerosene
* Alex adds: G sent something to some list last wednesday about the new
space
* Devin also sez: I bought a bunch of electrical connectors, more are on
their way. New wire strippers too. They're awesome.
* Torrie talks about tomorrow's OpenSCAD class
** Also, RAMBo board arrives tomorrow to fix the prusa's bed, maybe
another pair of blue/orange PLA, and new LED light ring was installed today
* New webcam stream that isn't technicolour
** Don't weld in the main space without covering the camera!
* Devin suggests that Stephanie, etc might want the junk pile
== Membership ==
* Read off any names open for application
* Anyone eligible should:
** Introduce yourself
** Answer any questions
** Leave the area
* Members present should reach consensus on whether or not they join
* Applicants may return
* Mike Griesacker
** Want to learn, make stuff, and collaborate. Interested in Arduino,
Raspberry Pi, 3d printing
** Sponsors: Devin and Omar
* David Morley
** I'm a hacker from way back
** Sponsors: Omar and Andy
** He came in today and scheduled his interview for next week (November
26)
== Financial Report ==
* Funds in bank: $GOOD QUESTION
** Someone gave Torrie for dues. She forgot who gave it to her. WHO WAS
IT?!?
== Proposals ==
* None
== Discussion Items ==
* Andrew talks about the Junk Pile
** Somewhere, you can recycle electronics. Apparently you can mail them
in too, and they'll mail you a cheque.
** (Discussion about whether or not pins have gold sometimes)
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Last Night's markerboard clip
Here is the Heart that I made: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:188513 Someone at the talk asked if t could be done, well here it is! On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Thursday, November 21, 2013 14:51:14 Omar Rassi wrote: Nothing seems to be there. The .scad file is there, thingiverse just seems to not be recognizing it. Theres a bunch of others with the same behavior. On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: Howdy, all! If you came to my OpenSCAD talk last night, here's the markerboard clip I created: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:188208 Enjoy! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] An improved Google Profile
That sounds like it will work great for SynHak! Did they mention any communication solutions for large groups while you where there? PS, while this works great for SynHak, it totally sucks for fellow youtubers :( WE DON'T WANT TO USE OUR REAL NAME! PSS, you might have to make up a real name for SynHak at one point. On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: Heya, folks. I'm at this event down at Office Space Coworking: http://www.meetup.com/Startup-Akron-Office-Space-Coworking/events/148452392/ Ellen K. Martin is giving a very informative talk on how to effectively use Google+ for businesses. Yeah, we're not much of a business, but it is still incredibly useful for our visibility. Things I've learned: * I can finally transfer ownership of the Google+ Page to the servi...@synhak.org account, though it'll take two weeks since I just added servi...@synhak.org as the manager. Security concerns, I'm sure, which makes sense. * The Google+ Page can be linked to a youtube channel, where all our youtube videos show up on the Google+ page * When a page is linked to a channel, the managers can upload videos. This is incredibly useful, since we don't need the separate youtube@synhak.orgaccount anymore. I'm working on transferring the channel to the servi...@synhak.org account, though I'm not sure if I can do that properly. I might need to delete and re-upload, but our videos don't have a whole lot of activity. Yet. * The page can also be linked to the local listing that shows up in Google Maps. Also, working on doing that once the ownership is transferred. Apparently, the page dashboard shows all kinds of really useful metrics such as youtube data and the zipcodes of people who looked up directions. Right now, Chris, Omar, G and I are the managers for the page, along with the special servi...@synhak.org account. In two weeks, I'll transfer the page ownership to servi...@synhak.org. As soon as I figure out the password for yout...@synhak.org, I'll start migrating our videos and upload last night's Speaker's Bureau video. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] New Mailing List!
What are you talking about Torrie? On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:05:24 Chris Egeland wrote: Hi-diddly-ho hackerinos! If you weren't at the space last night, you missed the meeting about the Power Racing Series project that we are undertaking this winter. or reading the mailing list at around 8:18 pm last night One idea that was brought up was a separate mailing list for this project. Well, that's been set up, and a handful of people are already subscribed. If you're interested in keeping track of the project, please feel free to subscribe to the list using the link below. Additionally, you can send me an email with your request to be subscribed, and I will manually subscribe you to the list. https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/power-racing-series Simply enter your email address, your name (which is optional), pick a password and confirm it, and select whether you would prefer daily digests, and click subscribe. Thanks, Chris ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Offtopic List?
What's going to happen when we have 600+ members? I still say that we should use a forum On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 15:52:35 Chris Egeland wrote: Hey hackers! I've been watching the mailing lists very closely for some time now, and have noticed a general uptrend in the volume of email sent to the discuss list. Sometimes we get offtopic and go off on tangents about toast, or other topics which are fun to talk about, but are ultimately irrelevant to the space itself. Usually, this isn't a problem, but for someone who is interested in the space, but not the minutiae of every little bit of day-to-day operations, it can quickly turn into an overwhelming amount of email. Today, I'm asking for input on how we should proceed with the mailing lists. As you may know, we currently have 5 lists, two of which are public, one semipublic, and two private. discuss@synhak.org and annou...@synhak.org are the two that everyone knows about. Members may know that they are automatically subscribed to memb...@synhak.org. Board members are subscribed to bo...@synhak.org and us sysadmin folk are members of sysad...@synhak.org. My recommendation is to create an offtopic list, which would have very very lax rules on what can be posted. Anything you want to chat about. Want to debate why the RubberDucks is a terrible team name and the Aeros was WAY better? Sure, no problem. Got a pothole on Market street that irks you every day? Have at it. Joke threads? Toast? No problem. The other side to this idea is that the discuss list would have some basic rules imposed that mean that any topics to the discuss list would be required to be relevant to the space itself. Projects occurring at the space would be relevant topics, open hours discussion, meeting minutes, etc. Looking through the archives, I can see three sources of off-topicness: * A newbie comes to SYNHAK and has no idea what the unwritten rules for discuss@synhak.org are and starts an irrelevant thread * A newbie comes to SYNHAK and has no idea what the unwritten rules for discuss@synhak.org are and makes an irrelevant reply to an on-topic thread * Someone who is familiar with the unwritten rules for discuss@synhak.orgis purposely going off-topic. For the first two, how will they know that offto...@synhak.org is for off- topic stuff if they signed a mailing list signup sheet at a booth? Should we tell them If you want to hear and make mustache jokes or other off-topic drivel that isn't about hacking, you can subscribe to offto...@synhak.org . For the third, its usually overlooked as only established members of the community do that and they have a feel for when it is acceptable. Here's a solution that'll actually work: Just tell the people going off-topic that you don't want it on the discuss list. Usually you only need to tell a newbie just once and they'll learn the ropes. The reason I know that this will work is because this is what happens in the real world. Have a look at archives of Usenet groups around September of every year before 1993. They'd get a batch of fresh-faced newbies who don't understand the culture. The regulars would quickly jump in and inform them that, while they are welcome to participate, there are a few social norms that should be followed regarding staying on topic, being polite, and other netiquette. Then again, we are a do-ocracy. If someone wants to throw the discuss list into moderation and enforce a rule that every post is on-topic, you're more than welcome to take over my job as mailman administrator. I'd feel as though I'm being treated like a child with no manners for something I didn't contribute to. Thats a quick way to make everyone feel unwelcome. If someone wants to put together a web-based forum for us to use, go ahead. I'd wager that none of the technically minded people who live on email will use it for any significant period of time. As evidence of both of these statements being true, I encourage folks to find me a successful hackerspace near our end of the peer-to-peer driven spectrum of community involvement that satisfies both conditions which appear to be the ones that this thread is trying to solve: * Doesn't use an email list as their primary asynchronous discussion channel * Has infallible enforcement of topicalness on their primary discussion list So, let me know what you guys think. I'm not officially proposing this, but we may chat about it at the next meeting as a discussion topic, because it would fundamentally mean we change how the mailing lists are organized and structured. Thanks, Chris ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Musical Compositon
I must of missed you, I got there a little after 7pm On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Michael Render mich...@michaelrender.comwrote: I am not going to be there. But we could meetup down there soon. When are you available? Michael Render On 11/12/2013 12:02 PM, Ben Lippincott wrote: Are any of you coming to the meeting tonight? I hope to see you there. I'll come a little early so we can talk. On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Ben Lippincott benji.lippinc...@gmail.com wrote: I really want to learn from you guys. :P On Saturday, November 9, 2013, Joseph Terrett wrote: Yea, I'm a jazz guitarist and have written and arranged a bit. I teach guitar, music theory and some electronic music as well. We can set up a time if your interested. Joe Terrett Sent from my iPad On Nov 9, 2013, at 7:28 PM, Andrew Buczko a4s...@dsprototyping.com wrote: Yes, I took some classes. We can get together at synhak sometime to go over what you need help with On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Michael Render mich...@michaelrender.com wrote: That's what I do. I have been composing, writing and recording for 30 years. Currently I have a Cubase ceneterd studio. Anything in particular you need or want to know? Michael Render On 11/9/2013 1:15 PM, Ben Lippincott wrote: Does anyone know about composing or writing songs? -- Thanks! Ben Lippincott ___ Discuss mailing listDiscuss@synhak.orghttps://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Thanks! Ben Lippincott -- Thanks! Ben Lippincott ___ Discuss mailing listDiscuss@synhak.orghttps://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] CanHax: Canton Hackerspace
I mentioned that we should give then a gift basket, one with Circular saws and Xbox CDROM drives in it. :) But seriously we could send them some of the (more than extra) tools as a gift. Could be good PR? On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:46 AM, Bethany Munyan beth.mun...@gmail.comwrote: We should visit! On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 3:04 PM, alex kot alexk...@yahoo.com wrote: Looks like it is really new. The domain was bought on August 22nd 2013, the Facebook and Twitter account doesn't have anything on it yet. On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 2:55 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: Look what I found today: http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/CanHax Apparently, someone is starting a space in Canton. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Mini Maker Faire Pictures
Has anyone posted any pictures from the Akron Mini Maker Fair yet? On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Tiki Mclemore spiralsparrowcr...@gmail.comwrote: Chris took a bunch of pictures. Pretty good ones that show just how busy all of us were lol. On Nov 6, 2013 2:30 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: Hey, so, did anyone get a chance to take pictures of us at the Maker Faire? I have one picture of when I showed up, but other than that I was working the soldering lessons pretty hard and missed the whole faire. Not that I'm complaining, though :) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Financial Report
Wait, we can pay or dues in computer parts (I'm set for the next five years) Yeah we can build a ramp for the space but that I think should be Tony's responsibility. I would contact Tony and offer to build the ramp for the space if he pays for the materials. How much of a discount does the Buckeye Gold card give? Then we should give the same. I think that having older members will be a great value to the space, they can bring knowledge and experience. On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 3:35 PM, degerov...@yahoo.com degerov...@yahoo.comwrote: If a wheelchair ramp is needed, accommodations could be made for a retractable ramp to be built on one for the side entrances to the building. The doorways into the main space are 4 ft in width. Doors to the class, craft, and server rooms (the Perkins room) are 32 (I believe, I can check tonight). The door to the machine room is smaller but we are not able to modify this doorway as per land lord instruction (its a steel framed safe type door). Also the bathroom doorways are standard size but that is a shared part of the building and doesn't fall under our authority to modify. If you have special needs I can address them. All stairways have proper railings, landing sizes, and sure knole posts. As far as a senior discount, I am not aware of any, but the treasurer would be the person to ask. Any other accessibility concerns please contact me directly. Thanks, Devin Wolfe Sent from Yahoo Mail on Androidhttp://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android -- * From: * Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.com; * To: * SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org; * Subject: * Re: [SH-Discuss] Financial Report * Sent: * Mon, Nov 11, 2013 7:36:19 PM What is the monthly membership fee for retired geezers? [image: Inline image 1] Assume that one achieves geezer status at age 65. Also, is the current facility handicapped accessible? Thanks! On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Alexander Golightley coinspel...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy hakkers! Here is the financial report for this week: We have $3,460.72 and we have 9 members that have not paid their November dues yet. If anyone has any questions about our finances, let me know. Thanks, Alexander Golightley treasu...@synhak.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss old man cartoon (sm).jpg___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Musical Compositon
mole day2 and quickness sound like the same song. It looks like the recorded volume is to high, you can see where the tops of the wave form is cut off causing Clipping. Should I create a melody before I make the chord progression? I like that you can do ether one, or whatever you come up with first. You can use your music theory to build upon the melodies and cord progressions that you come up with. I have an Ensonic ZR76 that has a nice feature that records everything that gets played, so If there was something that sounded good I can go back and grab it, send it to the on board midi recorded and then save it to floppy disk. On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Ben Lippincott benji.lippinc...@gmail.comwrote: Have you used FL Studio or Logic Pro? What MIDI workstations do you use? On Sunday, November 10, 2013, Ben Lippincott wrote: I was in a music theory class, so I know a few things. (I'm also a percussionist/drummer) Are you saying I should vary dynamics more? I'm not really sure how I can do that without wrecking my mixes. I just need experience. Should I create a melody before I make the chord progression? On Sunday, November 10, 2013, Michael Render wrote: Listen at about 35 secs in on Happy WubDub. The lower harmony and the arpeggios are pulsing on 16th notes, making them very hard to differentiate. And it makes a solid wall that competes with the melody for your attention. You could change things so that not every part is going full bore all the time. Thin out some rhythms and use dynamics to emphasize parts in others. I am guessing that if we looked at the source of those arpeggios, they are all the same volume. Just by varying that, you could create far more interesting runs. Michael Render On 11/10/2013 10:40 AM, Ben Lippincott wrote: What do you mean by competing rhythms? On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Michael Render mich...@michaelrender.com wrote: I don't think your melodies suck. I think you just straightjacket yourself with your chord structures. Take for example Mole Day 2 and Quirkiness. They both use a simple C minor pattern of root, minor third and fourth. Almost an arpeggio instead of chords. That leaves you almost no wiggle room to move about. You are stuck in a very claustrophobic box. Everything has to fit within a C minor chord with a D major passing, resolving back to C minor. In Happy WubDub you do use a more complex chord scheme. But you arpeggiate the chords very tightly. No inversions. This competes with any melodic phrase and again straightjackets where you can go with the melody. Your rhythms also compete. We also need surprise and tension/release. Even the most repetitive techno/dubstep stuff adds change, whether just bringing tracks in and out, dramatic filter sweeps or stopping to drone on a beat or phrase. My challenge to you would be: Build richer chord structures with thought to tension/release and use inversions to give yourself breathing room. Let parts of you melody/harmony/chords have dramatically different rhythms. Don't constantly repeat small patterns. Mix it up and surprise us. I think you will find that if you give yourself enough room, better melodies will flow. Oh, and don't stop. Experience is the absolute best teacher. Michael Render Michael Render On 11/9/2013 10:48 PM, Ben Lippincott wrote: Well, first off, I would like some tips. Here's my soundcloud: http://www.soundcloud.com/ben-lippincott/ I use FL Studio and Logic Pro X. I really suck at writing melodies. :P ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Thanks! Ben Lippincott ___ Discuss mailing listDiscuss@synhak.orghttps://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Thanks! Ben Lippincott -- Thanks! Ben Lippincott ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] 3D printer and Milling machine all in one
Ohhh, Fancy! :) On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Seeley, Tim (PSA-Akron) tim.see...@psangelus.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PuYqM9uFcc *Timothy W. Seeley* (330) 923-0491, ext 612 *tim.see...@psangelus.com tim.see...@psangelus.com* [image: cid:image001.jpg@01CC575D.0D775080] ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss image001.jpg___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Mini Maker Faire
Ohh, a portable hacker space would be awesome, But how would we fit 30 circular saws in one box? :) Ben Heck's portable work bench: http://youtu.be/TEZPQ--aF8c Also, he designed a portable 3D printer. Ben Heck's portable 3D printer: http://youtu.be/xJndXebTG9I On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 3:23 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote: yep,i brought up the concept of a space-in-a-case consisting of a laptop, soldering iron, cutting mat, parts drawers, bench supply, and dremel. Others brought up Ben heck's version of the concept. I figured a fold apart plywood trunk would be best. i can scan my sketches when i find them if you want. -Andrew On Nov 2, 2013 11:45 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: Weren't we talking up the idea a few months back of producing a portable mini Hackerspace to take to places? That was hella fun yesterday ^^ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Privacy policy missing? or is it private?
Good point Chris, I just took the do-oqrocy approach and quickly slap one together. Can we put this as a proposal for next weeks meeting (05/Nov/2013)? That way it can follow the proper course. Do you have a URL for a non-SYNHAK-namespace ? On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.comwrote: Perhaps I'm missing something, but shouldn't the Privacy Policy be a Proposal? Yes, it's overdue to have, but because it changes rules of the space (what the space is and isn't allowed to do with information that it collects), it needs to be approved by the membership. I think that the current page should be moved off of the SYNHAK:Privacy Policy page and moved to a non-SYNHAK-namespace until it becomes official. Generally, I like to keep the SYNHAK:Whatever namespace on the wiki for official policies and such, which is typical with most other MediaWiki sites. For what it's worth, I personally think that a Privacy Policy should be something approved by the Board, simply due to the bureaucratic nature of adopting something that is effectively a legally binding document. Not to say that the membership shouldn't have input on it (the Board works for the membership, remember), but most other organizations either have their Privacy Policies adopted by their Board or Legal Department. For example, the Wikimedia Foundation's Privacy Policy is adopted by their Board of Trustees. I think we should have the following chain of events: 1.) Membership and officers collaborate together to build a draft of a policy to adopt 2.) Possibly run it by legal counsel if we determine that it's something that we want to have legally checked over 3.) Submit the policy to the Board for approval 4.) Board approves or denies the policy. If they deny, go back to 1, else go to 5 5.) Formally begin following the policy as approved by the Board Chris On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.comwrote: Perhaps I'm missing something, but shouldn't the Privacy Policy be a Proposal? Yes, it's overdue to have, but because it changes rules of the space (what the space is and isn't allowed to do with information that it collects), it needs to be approved by the membership. I think that the current page should me move off of the SYNHAK:Privacy Policy page and moved to a non-SYNHAK-namespace until the revision in question passes the Proposal stage. For what it's worth, I personally think that a Privacy Policy should be something approved by the Board, simply due to the bureaucratic nature of adopting something that is effectively a legally binding document. Not to say that the membership shouldn't have input on it (the Board works for the membership, remember), but most other organizations either have their Privacy Policies adopted by their Board or Legal Department. We don't have a Legal Department, so the closest thing we have is the Board. To give you an idea of who approves and implements privacy policies for various organizations: University of Akron: Office of General Counsel (Legal Department) Wikimedia Foundation: Board of Trustees Chris On 10/31/2013 04:17 PM, Andrew Buczko wrote: Nice job on the formatting. I think what it means is that we can't change our rules to effect something that has already happened. Lets say we change our policy to We're going to sell our customers information on 31/Oct/2013 Now we can sell any info that NEW customers give us, but any customers that gave us info prior to 31/Oct/2013 can not be sold. On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed good catch. I did some editing, grammar fixes, and formatting so it reads a little easier and there aren't so many redundant statements. I also added a date so that people can see the effective date of the policy. My only question is this: How are we going to separate which information falls under which policy revision as per the following statement: *changes will only apply to activities and information on* *a going forward, not retroactive basis.* * * On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Thursday, October 31, 2013 01:40:41 PM Andrew Buczko wrote: I just saw the the privacy policy link for our page is missing and or broke: https://synhak.org/wiki/SYNHAK:Privacy_policy This was discussed on 2013-01-24: https://synhak.org/wiki/Proposals/Open Did this just never happen? I did some searching but was unable to find any drafts or copies of it on our site. I went ahead and edited in a Privacy Policy just so that we have one. I encourage everyone to review it and make suggestions. Since this is just one that I copied off of the internet and may not fit perfectly for SynHak. Andy huh, good catch. As far as I know, the only privacy policy we have is the one incorporated into our bylaws: Any member records
Re: [SH-Discuss] Mailing List Statistics
Love the ascii graph! can we get the same graph for number of members per month? Hmm, what can we graph, that would be useful? On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 3:10 PM, mich...@yanovich.net wrote: So that explains all the activity recently. :P On 10/30/2013 03:06 PM, Torrie Fischer wrote: In between writing more unit tests at work, I took a break to write a quick python script to generate a pretty chart about our mailing list activity: 2011 July: ### 2011 August: ### 2011 September: # 2011 October:## 2011 November: ### 2011 December: # 2012 January:## 2012 February: # 2012 March: ### 2012 April: ### 2012 May:# 2012 June: # 2012 July: 2012 August: # 2012 September: # 2012 October: 2012 November: 2012 December: ### 2013 January:### -- Opening Day 2013 February: # 2013 March: ### -- Class on 3d printing 2013 April: ### 2013 May: 2013 June: ## 2013 July: ## 2013 August: ## 2013 September: ### 2013 October:## - ABJ Front Page Source: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/50562/59747138 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Michael Yanovich ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Maintainers
I wouldn't say it as one who knows the most but rather one who is an expert, just a suggestion. Also, as we get more members can we have more than one expert? This will levitate the problem a rigid hierarchy since there will be more than one person to go to. On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Omar Rassi omar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Just added my entry :) On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: Howdy, hakkers! Over the last month or two, I've been trying to figure out a nice clean way for others to figure out who is responsible for what in the space. Originally I considered toying with the idea of having each Champion claim a title of something they're responsible for, such as Champion of System Administration, Champion of the Machine Shop, etc. The problem with that is it creates a rigid hiearchy of who is in charge of something that could take a significant effort to change along with obvious feelings of resentment towards those who are percieved as having more power. After thinking back to how open source development works, I've created this wiki page: https://synhak.org/wiki/Maintainers It is an informal way for people to openly state that they are indeed the person who knows the most about how to work something. For example, if the internet at the space is down, I often get a few text messages about it long before someone mentions it on the discuss list. I'm not the one who configures our network, I just happen to keep the machines that use it happy :) If you feel confident that you can take responsibility for something at the space, add yourself to that table! It doesn't mean you're required to do anything or that you've made some kind of commitment to be on call 24/7. All it means is that we now have some documentation of who to go to for the fastest resolution of issues or who to ask for questions. If you're not the only one who is the de facto handler for a project, please add others who help out as well. If you don't know who is the maintainer of something, you can ask Chris or I and we'll figure it out. tl;dr: If you're a core volunteer who contributes a lot of effort towards our infrastructure, you should add yourself to the new Maintainers page on the wiki. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[SH-Discuss] Privacy policy missing? or is it private?
I just saw the the privacy policy link for our page is missing and or broke: https://synhak.org/wiki/SYNHAK:Privacy_policy This was discussed on 2013-01-24: https://synhak.org/wiki/Proposals/Open Did this just never happen? I did some searching but was unable to find any drafts or copies of it on our site. I went ahead and edited in a Privacy Policy just so that we have one. I encourage everyone to review it and make suggestions. Since this is just one that I copied off of the internet and may not fit perfectly for SynHak. Andy ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
