Re: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room
I'm all for that --- Original Message --- From: "Omar Rassi" Sent: December 11, 2013 5:07 PM To: "SYN/HAK discussion list" Subject: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room Lets get this consensus out of the way. People want to take or use these laptops that have come in. It wouldn't be fair if one person gets to take a laptop but not anyone else has to wait until the rest are sorted/assigned. I say let it rain laptops up in here, you want it, take it, first come first serve. Any nays? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room
If that happens make sure Philip gets his. I would still consider him first come. I however liked and appreciated Omar's enterprising idea of selling stuff to support the space. Omar, it actually pains me that your motivation is gone to do such a thing. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 11, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Steve Radonich IV wrote: > > I'm all for that > > --- Original Message --- > > From: "Omar Rassi" > Sent: December 11, 2013 5:07 PM > To: "SYN/HAK discussion list" > Subject: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room > > Lets get this consensus out of the way. People want to take or use these > laptops that have come in. It wouldn't be fair if one person gets to take a > laptop but not anyone else has to wait until the rest are sorted/assigned. I > say let it rain laptops up in here, you want it, take it, first come first > serve. Any nays? > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room
I have no problem with that On Dec 11, 2013 5:55 PM, "Robert Rybicki" wrote: > If that happens make sure Philip gets his. I would still consider him > first come. I however liked and appreciated Omar's enterprising idea of > selling stuff to support the space. Omar, it actually pains me that your > motivation is gone to do such a thing. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 11, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Steve Radonich IV > wrote: > > I'm all for that > > --- Original Message --- > > From: "Omar Rassi" > Sent: December 11, 2013 5:07 PM > To: "SYN/HAK discussion list" > Subject: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room > > Lets get this consensus out of the way. People want to take or use these > laptops that have come in. It wouldn't be fair if one person gets to take a > laptop but not anyone else has to wait until the rest are sorted/assigned. > I say let it rain laptops up in here, you want it, take it, first come > first serve. Any nays? > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room
Don't blame Philip, he's impacted as much as everyone else in this. I shot my guns without having all the info, its not fair to him if people blame him for my over-zealousness. On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Becca Salchak wrote: > I have no problem with that > On Dec 11, 2013 5:55 PM, "Robert Rybicki" > wrote: > >> If that happens make sure Philip gets his. I would still consider him >> first come. I however liked and appreciated Omar's enterprising idea of >> selling stuff to support the space. Omar, it actually pains me that your >> motivation is gone to do such a thing. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 11, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Steve Radonich IV >> wrote: >> >> I'm all for that >> >> --- Original Message --- >> >> From: "Omar Rassi" >> Sent: December 11, 2013 5:07 PM >> To: "SYN/HAK discussion list" >> Subject: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room >> >> Lets get this consensus out of the way. People want to take or use >> these laptops that have come in. It wouldn't be fair if one person gets to >> take a laptop but not anyone else has to wait until the rest are >> sorted/assigned. I say let it rain laptops up in here, you want it, take >> it, first come first serve. Any nays? >> >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@synhak.org >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> >> >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@synhak.org >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room
lets keep this thread on-topic, we're looking for nays on placing the laptops back in an open bin. On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Omar Rassi wrote: > Don't blame Philip, he's impacted as much as everyone else in this. I shot > my guns without having all the info, its not fair to him if people blame > him for my over-zealousness. > > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Becca Salchak wrote: > >> I have no problem with that >> On Dec 11, 2013 5:55 PM, "Robert Rybicki" >> wrote: >> >>> If that happens make sure Philip gets his. I would still consider him >>> first come. I however liked and appreciated Omar's enterprising idea of >>> selling stuff to support the space. Omar, it actually pains me that your >>> motivation is gone to do such a thing. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Dec 11, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Steve Radonich IV >>> wrote: >>> >>> I'm all for that >>> >>> --- Original Message --- >>> >>> From: "Omar Rassi" >>> Sent: December 11, 2013 5:07 PM >>> To: "SYN/HAK discussion list" >>> Subject: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room >>> >>> Lets get this consensus out of the way. People want to take or use >>> these laptops that have come in. It wouldn't be fair if one person gets to >>> take a laptop but not anyone else has to wait until the rest are >>> sorted/assigned. I say let it rain laptops up in here, you want it, take >>> it, first come first serve. Any nays? >>> >>> ___ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss@synhak.org >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss@synhak.org >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >> >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@synhak.org >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room
If Omar or anybody else at SH wants to start selling stuff on Craigslist and eBay Classifieds (both free, both local) on a regular basis for the benefit of SH, I will be happy to get involved and help them. I can donate at least 4 hours a week, maybe more to the ongoing project. Properly managed and maintained, the online selling project could be a significant source of revenue for SH.. With six years experience doing online selling (Craigslist, eBay Classifieds, eBay, Etsy, Bid4All, and others) , I have the knowledge and methods to help SH be successful at raising money by selling stuff that has been declared excess or unneeded or overstock. Computers, computer components, hand tools, power tools, and small appliances sell well on both sites. I am sure that SH has lots of stuff they can and should sell. Reply by email and we can discuss this further. If the coffee is hot, I can come to SH to meet interested parties and start planning the project. Philip On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Omar Rassi wrote: > lets keep this thread on-topic, we're looking for nays on placing the > laptops back in an open bin. > > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Omar Rassi wrote: > >> Don't blame Philip, he's impacted as much as everyone else in this. I >> shot my guns without having all the info, its not fair to him if people >> blame him for my over-zealousness. >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Becca Salchak wrote: >> >>> I have no problem with that >>> On Dec 11, 2013 5:55 PM, "Robert Rybicki" >>> wrote: >>> If that happens make sure Philip gets his. I would still consider him first come. I however liked and appreciated Omar's enterprising idea of selling stuff to support the space. Omar, it actually pains me that your motivation is gone to do such a thing. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 11, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Steve Radonich IV wrote: I'm all for that --- Original Message --- From: "Omar Rassi" Sent: December 11, 2013 5:07 PM To: "SYN/HAK discussion list" Subject: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room Lets get this consensus out of the way. People want to take or use these laptops that have come in. It wouldn't be fair if one person gets to take a laptop but not anyone else has to wait until the rest are sorted/assigned. I say let it rain laptops up in here, you want it, take it, first come first serve. Any nays? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >>> ___ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss@synhak.org >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >> >> > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room
Just to let everyone know... I have more laptops and desktops available to donate. (currently about 4) Lets get a plan created and ratified on how to deal with donated assets. I really like Omar's plans and It saddens me to hear that his drive to help the space with Computer equiptment triage has been killed by hurt feeling and missing procedures. On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Philip P. Patnode wrote: > If Omar or anybody else at SH wants to start selling stuff on Craigslist > and eBay Classifieds (both free, both local) on a regular basis for the > benefit of SH, I will be happy to get involved and help them. I can donate > at least 4 hours a week, maybe more to the ongoing project. Properly > managed and maintained, the online selling project could be a significant > source of revenue for SH.. > > With six years experience doing online selling (Craigslist, eBay > Classifieds, eBay, Etsy, Bid4All, and others) , I have the knowledge and > methods to help SH be successful at raising money by selling stuff that has > been declared excess or unneeded or overstock. Computers, computer > components, hand tools, power tools, and small appliances sell well on both > sites. I am sure that SH has lots of stuff they can and should sell. > > Reply by email and we can discuss this further. If the coffee is hot, I > can come to SH to meet interested parties and start planning the project. > > Philip > > > > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Omar Rassi wrote: > >> lets keep this thread on-topic, we're looking for nays on placing the >> laptops back in an open bin. >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Omar Rassi wrote: >> >>> Don't blame Philip, he's impacted as much as everyone else in this. I >>> shot my guns without having all the info, its not fair to him if people >>> blame him for my over-zealousness. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Becca Salchak wrote: >>> I have no problem with that On Dec 11, 2013 5:55 PM, "Robert Rybicki" wrote: > If that happens make sure Philip gets his. I would still consider him > first come. I however liked and appreciated Omar's enterprising idea of > selling stuff to support the space. Omar, it actually pains me that your > motivation is gone to do such a thing. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 11, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Steve Radonich IV > wrote: > > I'm all for that > > --- Original Message --- > > From: "Omar Rassi" > Sent: December 11, 2013 5:07 PM > To: "SYN/HAK discussion list" > Subject: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room > > Lets get this consensus out of the way. People want to take or use > these laptops that have come in. It wouldn't be fair if one person gets to > take a laptop but not anyone else has to wait until the rest are > sorted/assigned. I say let it rain laptops up in here, you want it, take > it, first come first serve. Any nays? > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@synhak.org >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room
You can have my warm body to use in evaluating the next batch of computer equipment to be donated by Justin. I will be happy to assist Omar in checking the stuff out. No problem with gofer/asst status. Would be a pleasure to work with him, considering his knowledge and experience. Justin - please give a couple of days notice so that the equipment can be isolated on delivery and evaluated by Omar and his minions when he has the time and inclination. PPP On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Justin Herman wrote: > Just to let everyone know... I have more laptops and desktops available to > donate. (currently about 4) > > Lets get a plan created and ratified on how to deal with donated assets. > > I really like Omar's plans and It saddens me to hear that his drive to > help the space with Computer equiptment triage has been killed by hurt > feeling and missing procedures. > > > > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Philip P. Patnode wrote: > >> If Omar or anybody else at SH wants to start selling stuff on Craigslist >> and eBay Classifieds (both free, both local) on a regular basis for the >> benefit of SH, I will be happy to get involved and help them. I can donate >> at least 4 hours a week, maybe more to the ongoing project. Properly >> managed and maintained, the online selling project could be a significant >> source of revenue for SH.. >> >> With six years experience doing online selling (Craigslist, eBay >> Classifieds, eBay, Etsy, Bid4All, and others) , I have the knowledge and >> methods to help SH be successful at raising money by selling stuff that has >> been declared excess or unneeded or overstock. Computers, computer >> components, hand tools, power tools, and small appliances sell well on both >> sites. I am sure that SH has lots of stuff they can and should sell. >> >> Reply by email and we can discuss this further. If the coffee is hot, I >> can come to SH to meet interested parties and start planning the project. >> >> Philip >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Omar Rassi wrote: >> >>> lets keep this thread on-topic, we're looking for nays on placing the >>> laptops back in an open bin. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Omar Rassi wrote: >>> Don't blame Philip, he's impacted as much as everyone else in this. I shot my guns without having all the info, its not fair to him if people blame him for my over-zealousness. On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Becca Salchak wrote: > I have no problem with that > On Dec 11, 2013 5:55 PM, "Robert Rybicki" > wrote: > >> If that happens make sure Philip gets his. I would still consider him >> first come. I however liked and appreciated Omar's enterprising idea of >> selling stuff to support the space. Omar, it actually pains me that your >> motivation is gone to do such a thing. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 11, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Steve Radonich IV >> wrote: >> >> I'm all for that >> >> --- Original Message --- >> >> From: "Omar Rassi" >> Sent: December 11, 2013 5:07 PM >> To: "SYN/HAK discussion list" >> Subject: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room >> >> Lets get this consensus out of the way. People want to take or use >> these laptops that have come in. It wouldn't be fair if one person gets >> to >> take a laptop but not anyone else has to wait until the rest are >> sorted/assigned. I say let it rain laptops up in here, you want it, take >> it, first come first serve. Any nays? >> >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@synhak.org >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> >> >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@synhak.org >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > >>> >>> ___ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss@synhak.org >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >> >> >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@synhak.org >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room
There's a few personal reasons I'm taking some steps back from the space, this situation is not among them. I feel strongly about Synhak and want to continue doing what I'm doing but soon I won't be in a position to have a say in what goes on there as demands outside of Synhak consume more of my prioritization scale. If you guys like what I said, then pick it up and run with it, don't wait for me. On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Justin Herman wrote: > Just to let everyone know... I have more laptops and desktops available to > donate. (currently about 4) > > Lets get a plan created and ratified on how to deal with donated assets. > > I really like Omar's plans and It saddens me to hear that his drive to > help the space with Computer equiptment triage has been killed by hurt > feeling and missing procedures. > > > > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Philip P. Patnode wrote: > >> If Omar or anybody else at SH wants to start selling stuff on Craigslist >> and eBay Classifieds (both free, both local) on a regular basis for the >> benefit of SH, I will be happy to get involved and help them. I can donate >> at least 4 hours a week, maybe more to the ongoing project. Properly >> managed and maintained, the online selling project could be a significant >> source of revenue for SH.. >> >> With six years experience doing online selling (Craigslist, eBay >> Classifieds, eBay, Etsy, Bid4All, and others) , I have the knowledge and >> methods to help SH be successful at raising money by selling stuff that has >> been declared excess or unneeded or overstock. Computers, computer >> components, hand tools, power tools, and small appliances sell well on both >> sites. I am sure that SH has lots of stuff they can and should sell. >> >> Reply by email and we can discuss this further. If the coffee is hot, I >> can come to SH to meet interested parties and start planning the project. >> >> Philip >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Omar Rassi wrote: >> >>> lets keep this thread on-topic, we're looking for nays on placing the >>> laptops back in an open bin. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Omar Rassi wrote: >>> Don't blame Philip, he's impacted as much as everyone else in this. I shot my guns without having all the info, its not fair to him if people blame him for my over-zealousness. On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Becca Salchak wrote: > I have no problem with that > On Dec 11, 2013 5:55 PM, "Robert Rybicki" > wrote: > >> If that happens make sure Philip gets his. I would still consider him >> first come. I however liked and appreciated Omar's enterprising idea of >> selling stuff to support the space. Omar, it actually pains me that your >> motivation is gone to do such a thing. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 11, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Steve Radonich IV >> wrote: >> >> I'm all for that >> >> --- Original Message --- >> >> From: "Omar Rassi" >> Sent: December 11, 2013 5:07 PM >> To: "SYN/HAK discussion list" >> Subject: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room >> >> Lets get this consensus out of the way. People want to take or use >> these laptops that have come in. It wouldn't be fair if one person gets >> to >> take a laptop but not anyone else has to wait until the rest are >> sorted/assigned. I say let it rain laptops up in here, you want it, take >> it, first come first serve. Any nays? >> >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@synhak.org >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> >> >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@synhak.org >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > >>> >>> ___ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss@synhak.org >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >> >> >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@synhak.org >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room
No one at synhak has minions. The practice of minion-ing is strongly discouraged. On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Philip P. Patnode wrote: > You can have my warm body to use in evaluating the next batch of computer > equipment to be donated by Justin. > > I will be happy to assist Omar in checking the stuff out. No problem with > gofer/asst status. Would be a pleasure to work with him, considering his > knowledge and experience. > > Justin - please give a couple of days notice so that the equipment can be > isolated on delivery and evaluated by Omar and his minions when he has the > time and inclination. > > PPP > > > > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Justin Herman wrote: > >> Just to let everyone know... I have more laptops and desktops available >> to donate. (currently about 4) >> >> Lets get a plan created and ratified on how to deal with donated assets. >> >> I really like Omar's plans and It saddens me to hear that his drive to >> help the space with Computer equiptment triage has been killed by hurt >> feeling and missing procedures. >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Philip P. Patnode wrote: >> >>> If Omar or anybody else at SH wants to start selling stuff on Craigslist >>> and eBay Classifieds (both free, both local) on a regular basis for the >>> benefit of SH, I will be happy to get involved and help them. I can donate >>> at least 4 hours a week, maybe more to the ongoing project. Properly >>> managed and maintained, the online selling project could be a significant >>> source of revenue for SH.. >>> >>> With six years experience doing online selling (Craigslist, eBay >>> Classifieds, eBay, Etsy, Bid4All, and others) , I have the knowledge and >>> methods to help SH be successful at raising money by selling stuff that has >>> been declared excess or unneeded or overstock. Computers, computer >>> components, hand tools, power tools, and small appliances sell well on both >>> sites. I am sure that SH has lots of stuff they can and should sell. >>> >>> Reply by email and we can discuss this further. If the coffee is hot, I >>> can come to SH to meet interested parties and start planning the project. >>> >>> Philip >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Omar Rassi wrote: >>> lets keep this thread on-topic, we're looking for nays on placing the laptops back in an open bin. On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Omar Rassi wrote: > Don't blame Philip, he's impacted as much as everyone else in this. I > shot my guns without having all the info, its not fair to him if people > blame him for my over-zealousness. > > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Becca Salchak wrote: > >> I have no problem with that >> On Dec 11, 2013 5:55 PM, "Robert Rybicki" >> wrote: >> >>> If that happens make sure Philip gets his. I would still consider >>> him first come. I however liked and appreciated Omar's enterprising >>> idea of >>> selling stuff to support the space. Omar, it actually pains me that your >>> motivation is gone to do such a thing. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Dec 11, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Steve Radonich IV >>> wrote: >>> >>> I'm all for that >>> >>> --- Original Message --- >>> >>> From: "Omar Rassi" >>> Sent: December 11, 2013 5:07 PM >>> To: "SYN/HAK discussion list" >>> Subject: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room >>> >>> Lets get this consensus out of the way. People want to take or use >>> these laptops that have come in. It wouldn't be fair if one person gets >>> to >>> take a laptop but not anyone else has to wait until the rest are >>> sorted/assigned. I say let it rain laptops up in here, you want it, take >>> it, first come first serve. Any nays? >>> >>> ___ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss@synhak.org >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss@synhak.org >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >> >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@synhak.org >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss@synhak.org >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >> >> >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@synhak.org >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.o
Re: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room
The "minion" was meant as humor, not a serious statement. I know that there are no minions at SH. Now, zombies - that is still under discussion. Omar, I will be happy to assist you or anybody else in evaluating future donations of computers and computer related hardware. I too feel strongly about SH and its potential as a non-profit org that is open to all and I will continue to donate good stuff and my time to support the operation. Philip On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:27 PM, Omar Rassi wrote: > No one at synhak has minions. The practice of minion-ing is strongly > discouraged. > > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Philip P. Patnode wrote: > >> You can have my warm body to use in evaluating the next batch of computer >> equipment to be donated by Justin. >> >> I will be happy to assist Omar in checking the stuff out. No problem >> with gofer/asst status. Would be a pleasure to work with him, considering >> his knowledge and experience. >> >> Justin - please give a couple of days notice so that the equipment can be >> isolated on delivery and evaluated by Omar and his minions when he has the >> time and inclination. >> >> PPP >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Justin Herman wrote: >> >>> Just to let everyone know... I have more laptops and desktops available >>> to donate. (currently about 4) >>> >>> Lets get a plan created and ratified on how to deal with donated assets. >>> >>> I really like Omar's plans and It saddens me to hear that his drive to >>> help the space with Computer equiptment triage has been killed by hurt >>> feeling and missing procedures. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Philip P. Patnode >>> wrote: >>> If Omar or anybody else at SH wants to start selling stuff on Craigslist and eBay Classifieds (both free, both local) on a regular basis for the benefit of SH, I will be happy to get involved and help them. I can donate at least 4 hours a week, maybe more to the ongoing project. Properly managed and maintained, the online selling project could be a significant source of revenue for SH.. With six years experience doing online selling (Craigslist, eBay Classifieds, eBay, Etsy, Bid4All, and others) , I have the knowledge and methods to help SH be successful at raising money by selling stuff that has been declared excess or unneeded or overstock. Computers, computer components, hand tools, power tools, and small appliances sell well on both sites. I am sure that SH has lots of stuff they can and should sell. Reply by email and we can discuss this further. If the coffee is hot, I can come to SH to meet interested parties and start planning the project. Philip On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Omar Rassi wrote: > lets keep this thread on-topic, we're looking for nays on placing the > laptops back in an open bin. > > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Omar Rassi wrote: > >> Don't blame Philip, he's impacted as much as everyone else in this. I >> shot my guns without having all the info, its not fair to him if people >> blame him for my over-zealousness. >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Becca Salchak >> wrote: >> >>> I have no problem with that >>> On Dec 11, 2013 5:55 PM, "Robert Rybicki" >>> wrote: >>> If that happens make sure Philip gets his. I would still consider him first come. I however liked and appreciated Omar's enterprising idea of selling stuff to support the space. Omar, it actually pains me that your motivation is gone to do such a thing. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 11, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Steve Radonich IV < nesfr...@outlook.com> wrote: I'm all for that --- Original Message --- From: "Omar Rassi" Sent: December 11, 2013 5:07 PM To: "SYN/HAK discussion list" Subject: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room Lets get this consensus out of the way. People want to take or use these laptops that have come in. It wouldn't be fair if one person gets to take a laptop but not anyone else has to wait until the rest are sorted/assigned. I say let it rain laptops up in here, you want it, take it, first come first serve. Any nays? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >>> ___ >>> Discuss mailing l
Re: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room
I was not placing blame. I am truly sorry if that is how it sounded. I was just saying three different things. One, if it is going to be a free for all, Philip gets dibs on his project computer. Two, I don't like the idea of making it rain because I thought selling stuff was a great idea to make money. Three, it is a shame, regardless of the reasons why, Omar is not up for working on it when he was previously so motivated. That last point makes me sad. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 11, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Omar Rassi wrote: > > Don't blame Philip, he's impacted as much as everyone else in this. I shot my > guns without having all the info, its not fair to him if people blame him for > my over-zealousness. > > >> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Becca Salchak wrote: >> I have no problem with that >> >>> On Dec 11, 2013 5:55 PM, "Robert Rybicki" wrote: >>> If that happens make sure Philip gets his. I would still consider him first >>> come. I however liked and appreciated Omar's enterprising idea of selling >>> stuff to support the space. Omar, it actually pains me that your motivation >>> is gone to do such a thing. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Dec 11, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Steve Radonich IV wrote: I'm all for that --- Original Message --- From: "Omar Rassi" Sent: December 11, 2013 5:07 PM To: "SYN/HAK discussion list" Subject: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room Lets get this consensus out of the way. People want to take or use these laptops that have come in. It wouldn't be fair if one person gets to take a laptop but not anyone else has to wait until the rest are sorted/assigned. I say let it rain laptops up in here, you want it, take it, first come first serve. Any nays? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >>> ___ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss@synhak.org >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@synhak.org >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room
Well, we all go through things in our personal lives that keep us away from the space. Yes it is sad, and yes we hope the person will return soon, but we also need to remember to give that person some respect and privacy. Mostly I think we just need to let it be. Philip was already given the laptop yesterday after the meeting. Please, stop repeatedly saying what you think should happen. If you really want to make a difference, then show up to the meetings where we talk about these issues and make decisions on them. Otherwise, I think this entire issue is getting a little bit out of hand. We should all take a step back. It was discussed at this weeks meeting in detail, things were said to work towards an end goal of having a better system. If you have anything else to say on the subject, you should show up next Tuesday. Happy Hacking, Beth On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Robert Rybicki wrote: > I was not placing blame. I am truly sorry if that is how it sounded. I was > just saying three different things. One, if it is going to be a free for > all, Philip gets dibs on his project computer. > Two, I don't like the idea of making it rain because I thought selling > stuff was a great idea to make money. Three, it is a shame, regardless of > the reasons why, Omar is not up for working on it when he was previously so > motivated. That last point makes me sad. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 11, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Omar Rassi wrote: > > Don't blame Philip, he's impacted as much as everyone else in this. I shot > my guns without having all the info, its not fair to him if people blame > him for my over-zealousness. > > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Becca Salchak wrote: > >> I have no problem with that >> On Dec 11, 2013 5:55 PM, "Robert Rybicki" >> wrote: >> >>> If that happens make sure Philip gets his. I would still consider him >>> first come. I however liked and appreciated Omar's enterprising idea of >>> selling stuff to support the space. Omar, it actually pains me that your >>> motivation is gone to do such a thing. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Dec 11, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Steve Radonich IV >>> wrote: >>> >>> I'm all for that >>> >>> --- Original Message --- >>> >>> From: "Omar Rassi" >>> Sent: December 11, 2013 5:07 PM >>> To: "SYN/HAK discussion list" >>> Subject: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room >>> >>> Lets get this consensus out of the way. People want to take or use >>> these laptops that have come in. It wouldn't be fair if one person gets to >>> take a laptop but not anyone else has to wait until the rest are >>> sorted/assigned. I say let it rain laptops up in here, you want it, take >>> it, first come first serve. Any nays? >>> >>> ___ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss@synhak.org >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss@synhak.org >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >> >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@synhak.org >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room
Understood, I will butt out. I thought this was a discussion for people that could not make the meeting. I am again sorry if my comments came across anything less then constructive. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 11, 2013, at 11:13 PM, Bethany Munyan wrote: > > Well, we all go through things in our personal lives that keep us away from > the space. Yes it is sad, and yes we hope the person will return soon, but > we also need to remember to give that person some respect and privacy. > Mostly I think we just need to let it be. Philip was already given the > laptop yesterday after the meeting. Please, stop repeatedly saying what you > think should happen. If you really want to make a difference, then show up > to the meetings where we talk about these issues and make decisions on them. > Otherwise, I think this entire issue is getting a little bit out of hand. We > should all take a step back. It was discussed at this weeks meeting in > detail, things were said to work towards an end goal of having a better > system. If you have anything else to say on the subject, you should show up > next Tuesday. Happy Hacking, Beth > > >> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Robert Rybicki >> wrote: >> I was not placing blame. I am truly sorry if that is how it sounded. I was >> just saying three different things. One, if it is going to be a free for >> all, Philip gets dibs on his project computer. >> Two, I don't like the idea of making it rain because I thought selling stuff >> was a great idea to make money. Three, it is a shame, regardless of the >> reasons why, Omar is not up for working on it when he was previously so >> motivated. That last point makes me sad. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Dec 11, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Omar Rassi wrote: >>> >>> Don't blame Philip, he's impacted as much as everyone else in this. I shot >>> my guns without having all the info, its not fair to him if people blame >>> him for my over-zealousness. >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Becca Salchak wrote: I have no problem with that > On Dec 11, 2013 5:55 PM, "Robert Rybicki" > wrote: > If that happens make sure Philip gets his. I would still consider him > first come. I however liked and appreciated Omar's enterprising idea of > selling stuff to support the space. Omar, it actually pains me that your > motivation is gone to do such a thing. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 11, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Steve Radonich IV >> wrote: >> >> I'm all for that >> >> --- Original Message --- >> >> From: "Omar Rassi" >> Sent: December 11, 2013 5:07 PM >> To: "SYN/HAK discussion list" >> Subject: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room >> >> Lets get this consensus out of the way. People want to take or use these >> laptops that have come in. It wouldn't be fair if one person gets to >> take a laptop but not anyone else has to wait until the rest are >> sorted/assigned. I say let it rain laptops up in here, you want it, take >> it, first come first serve. Any nays? >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@synhak.org >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >>> ___ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss@synhak.org >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@synhak.org >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room
Robert, please butt in. The whole point of discuss is to get the opinions of the SynHak community. If people don't give their opinions we as a community do not grow and we do not cater to the needs of those we seek to serve. So long as people are constructive towards that end no one should be told to butt out. to all: As with some other instances on the list people just sometimes forget that there are many visual cues that words on a computer screen cannot convey so be sure the words we are using are as specific as possible to avoid confusion and unintentional offense. in excellence, Andrew L On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 12:41 AM, Robert Rybicki wrote: > Understood, I will butt out. I thought this was a discussion for people > that could not make the meeting. I am again sorry if my comments came > across anything less then constructive. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 11, 2013, at 11:13 PM, Bethany Munyan > wrote: > > Well, we all go through things in our personal lives that keep us away > from the space. Yes it is sad, and yes we hope the person will return > soon, but we also need to remember to give that person some respect and > privacy. Mostly I think we just need to let it be. Philip was already > given the laptop yesterday after the meeting. Please, stop repeatedly > saying what you think should happen. If you really want to make a > difference, then show up to the meetings where we talk about these issues > and make decisions on them. Otherwise, I think this entire issue is getting > a little bit out of hand. We should all take a step back. It was > discussed at this weeks meeting in detail, things were said to work towards > an end goal of having a better system. If you have anything else to say on > the subject, you should show up next Tuesday. Happy Hacking, Beth > > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Robert Rybicki > wrote: > >> I was not placing blame. I am truly sorry if that is how it sounded. I >> was just saying three different things. One, if it is going to be a free >> for all, Philip gets dibs on his project computer. >> Two, I don't like the idea of making it rain because I thought selling >> stuff was a great idea to make money. Three, it is a shame, regardless of >> the reasons why, Omar is not up for working on it when he was previously so >> motivated. That last point makes me sad. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 11, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Omar Rassi wrote: >> >> Don't blame Philip, he's impacted as much as everyone else in this. I >> shot my guns without having all the info, its not fair to him if people >> blame him for my over-zealousness. >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Becca Salchak wrote: >> >>> I have no problem with that >>> On Dec 11, 2013 5:55 PM, "Robert Rybicki" >>> wrote: >>> If that happens make sure Philip gets his. I would still consider him first come. I however liked and appreciated Omar's enterprising idea of selling stuff to support the space. Omar, it actually pains me that your motivation is gone to do such a thing. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 11, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Steve Radonich IV wrote: I'm all for that --- Original Message --- From: "Omar Rassi" Sent: December 11, 2013 5:07 PM To: "SYN/HAK discussion list" Subject: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room Lets get this consensus out of the way. People want to take or use these laptops that have come in. It wouldn't be fair if one person gets to take a laptop but not anyone else has to wait until the rest are sorted/assigned. I say let it rain laptops up in here, you want it, take it, first come first serve. Any nays? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >>> ___ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss@synhak.org >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >> >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@synhak.org >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> >> >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@synhak.org >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@synhak.org > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room
On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 21:25:44 Omar Rassi wrote: > There's a few personal reasons I'm taking some steps back from the space, > this situation is not among them. I feel strongly about Synhak and want to > continue doing what I'm doing but soon I won't be in a position to have a > say in what goes on there as demands outside of Synhak consume more of my > prioritization scale. If you guys like what I said, then pick it up and run > with it, don't wait for me. As an outside party and close friend of Omar, I can verify that he's got some Real Life issues outside of SYNHAK and they are currently having some big impact on his contributions. None of it is really related to laptopgate. > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Justin Herman wrote: > > Just to let everyone know... I have more laptops and desktops available to > > donate. (currently about 4) > > > > Lets get a plan created and ratified on how to deal with donated assets. > > > > I really like Omar's plans and It saddens me to hear that his drive to > > help the space with Computer equiptment triage has been killed by hurt > > feeling and missing procedures. > > > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Philip P. Patnode wrote: > >> If Omar or anybody else at SH wants to start selling stuff on Craigslist > >> and eBay Classifieds (both free, both local) on a regular basis for the > >> benefit of SH, I will be happy to get involved and help them. I can > >> donate > >> at least 4 hours a week, maybe more to the ongoing project. Properly > >> managed and maintained, the online selling project could be a significant > >> source of revenue for SH.. > >> > >> With six years experience doing online selling (Craigslist, eBay > >> Classifieds, eBay, Etsy, Bid4All, and others) , I have the knowledge and > >> methods to help SH be successful at raising money by selling stuff that > >> has > >> been declared excess or unneeded or overstock. Computers, computer > >> components, hand tools, power tools, and small appliances sell well on > >> both > >> sites. I am sure that SH has lots of stuff they can and should sell. > >> > >> Reply by email and we can discuss this further. If the coffee is hot, I > >> can come to SH to meet interested parties and start planning the > >> project. > >> > >> Philip > >> > >> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Omar Rassi wrote: > >>> lets keep this thread on-topic, we're looking for nays on placing the > >>> laptops back in an open bin. > >>> > >>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Omar Rassi wrote: > Don't blame Philip, he's impacted as much as everyone else in this. I > shot my guns without having all the info, its not fair to him if people > blame him for my over-zealousness. > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Becca Salchak wrote: > > I have no problem with that > > On Dec 11, 2013 5:55 PM, "Robert Rybicki" > > > > wrote: > >> If that happens make sure Philip gets his. I would still consider him > >> first come. I however liked and appreciated Omar's enterprising idea > >> of > >> selling stuff to support the space. Omar, it actually pains me that > >> your > >> motivation is gone to do such a thing. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On Dec 11, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Steve Radonich IV > >> > >> wrote: > >> I'm all for that > >> > >> --- Original Message --- > >> > >> From: "Omar Rassi" > >> Sent: December 11, 2013 5:07 PM > >> To: "SYN/HAK discussion list" > >> Subject: [SH-Discuss] The elephant laptop in the room > >> > >> Lets get this consensus out of the way. People want to take or use > >> > >> these laptops that have come in. It wouldn't be fair if one person > >> gets to > >> take a laptop but not anyone else has to wait until the rest are > >> sorted/assigned. I say let it rain laptops up in here, you want it, > >> take > >> it, first come first serve. Any nays? > >> > >> ___ > >> Discuss mailing list > >> Discuss@synhak.org > >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Discuss mailing list > >> Discuss@synhak.org > >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > ___ > > Discuss mailing list > > Discuss@synhak.org > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> Discuss mailing list > >>> Discuss@synhak.org > >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > >> > >> ___ > >> Discuss mailing list > >> Discuss@synhak.org > >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > ___ > > Discuss mailing list > > Discuss@synhak.org > > https://synhak.o