Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista
Dean, which VMWare product are you speaking of here for ~$70? DK On Dec 28, 2007 11:30 AM, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why buy 2 when you can have 1 and do both? Spend the extra cash on a MacBook Pro with large HD and RAM. You already have a Windows license... VMWare is ~$70. -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -- George Orwell, 1945 On Dec 28, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Dusty Hale wrote: Yea I might just take the entire fork and get two notebooks. A pc and a mac. I would like to start offering site testing for Mac in the future so it would be a plus. More tax savings!!! Right on!!! D -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]] *On Behalf Of *Dan Kaufman *Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2007 10:46 AM *To:* discussion@acfug.org *Subject:* RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista That's a good question—of course. And in the interest of full disclosure…I have decided to Go MAC but have not as of yet consummated the marriage. A stronger desire to upgrade my photography equipment to Canon EOS (pro digital) prevailed so I'll be putting off the iMAC purchase off until late January. But never-the-less, minor delay or not, I do absolutely intend to move to MAC. I will keep my Windows equipment so I can cross-check, browser-check, etc. The big dilemma that I don't have a clear answer on though is similar to your question of SQL, is all the other software I'm going to have to re-purchase. I did get a great recommendation for NeoOffice ( http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/features.php). This will at least cover the Microsoft Office Suite stuff. And CF Eclipse is also available for MAC. Whatever you do best wishes. I try to always follow Yogi Bera's sage advise: When I come to a fork in the road… …I take it. Dan K. -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]] *On Behalf Of *Dusty Hale *Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2007 7:23 AM *To:* discussion@acfug.org *Subject:* RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista Just curious if you are able to run SQL and/or Oracle on a Mac? -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]] *On Behalf Of *Dan Kaufman *Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2007 10:15 AM *To:* discussion@acfug.org *Subject:* RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista I had the very same before the year end dilemma but had after 22 years with Microsoft have decided to GO MAC—cause it just works. Period. Best of luck, and I do agree with Dean's comment don't downgrade to Vista—unless you're into horror stories. Dan K. -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]] *On Behalf Of *Dusty Hale *Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2007 6:46 AM *To:* discussion@acfug.org *Subject:* [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista Hope everyone had a very merry xmas and wishes for a happy new year. I am going to buy a new notebook before Dec. 31 or at least try to get the order in before year end in order to spend the money before the 2007 tax year ends (for a write off). I was debating with myself as to what OS to get (XP or Vista). I currently use XP Pro. These are my questions if anyone has any feedback or wants to discuss: 1. Should I stay with XP Pro instead of moving to Vista? 2. Are there issues with using Adobe products like CF, DW, or other tools with Vista. 3. If I move to Vista is there a particular version I need to do CF work (home, pro, etc.) 4. If I stay with XP, do I really need the Pro version to do CF work? Any thoughts are appreciated. Dusty - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista
VMWare Fusion for MacOS. If you're on Windows there are many, many versions available. I use player for my students who just need to access a VM, its free. All of my VM are built on VMWare's server product(s). -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? --Gandhi On Dec 31, 2007, at 11:31 AM, Douglas Knudsen wrote: Dean, which VMWare product are you speaking of here for ~$70? DK On Dec 28, 2007 11:30 AM, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why buy 2 when you can have 1 and do both? Spend the extra cash on a MacBook Pro with large HD and RAM. You already have a Windows license... VMWare is ~$70. -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -- George Orwell, 1945 On Dec 28, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Dusty Hale wrote: Yea I might just take the entire fork and get two notebooks. A pc and a mac. I would like to start offering site testing for Mac in the future so it would be a plus. More tax savings!!! Right on!!! D From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Kaufman Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:46 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista That's a good question—of course. And in the interest of full disclosure…I have decided to Go MAC but have not as of yet consummated the marriage. A stronger desire to upgrade my photography equipment to Canon EOS (pro digital) prevailed so I'll be putting off the iMAC purchase off until late January. But never- the-less, minor delay or not, I do absolutely intend to move to MAC. I will keep my Windows equipment so I can cross-check, browser-check, etc. The big dilemma that I don't have a clear answer on though is similar to your question of SQL, is all the other software I'm going to have to re-purchase. I did get a great recommendation for NeoOffice ( http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/features.php). This will at least cover the Microsoft Office Suite stuff. And CF Eclipse is also available for MAC. Whatever you do best wishes. I try to always follow Yogi Bera's sage advise: When I come to a fork in the road… …I take it. Dan K. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:23 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista Just curious if you are able to run SQL and/or Oracle on a Mac? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Kaufman Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:15 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista I had the very same before the year end dilemma but had after 22 years with Microsoft have decided to GO MAC—cause it just works. Period. Best of luck, and I do agree with Dean's comment don't downgrade to Vista—unless you're into horror stories. Dan K. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 6:46 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista Hope everyone had a very merry xmas and wishes for a happy new year. I am going to buy a new notebook before Dec. 31 or at least try to get the order in before year end in order to spend the money before the 2007 tax year ends (for a write off). I was debating with myself as to what OS to get (XP or Vista). I currently use XP Pro. These are my questions if anyone has any feedback or wants to discuss: 1. Should I stay with XP Pro instead of moving to Vista? 2. Are there issues with using Adobe products like CF, DW, or other tools with Vista. 3. If I move to Vista is there a particular version I need to do CF work (home, pro, etc.) 4. If I stay with XP, do I really need the Pro version to do CF work? Any thoughts are appreciated. Dusty - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - - Annual Sponsor
Re: re[6]: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista
I'm happily enjoying my mac with an xp vmware instance (when absolutely necessary) My only need for windoze lately has been for using sourcesafe and testing IE. On Dec 29, 2007 12:06 AM, Douglas Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: coming in way late on this..on holeeday. I've been using Vista Business for ~6 months now on a company lappy. For the most part, its all dandy with prolly two major issues that bug me 1) copying files sucks...well known this and should be addressed in SP1 2) bluetooth support sucks, at least with the Dell bluetooth card and Vista drivers. Other than that , things seem ok. Only recently has this really started to bug me. Anyone know if this down/upgrade to XP is available after purchase of a Dell? I do have CF8 on it running, seems fine, though I do most my work in UI land these days. Eclipse is fine too. Got VMWare doing its thing too, which is nice. Oh, IIS 7 is available for Vista Business. DK On Dec 28, 2007 5:34 PM, Mischa Uppelschoten ext 10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your lease with Dell is anything like my lease with CDW, they don't really care what you lease; they just see a purchase amount and calculate your payment, that's it. I was even able to roll a one year software maintenance renewal fee into a three year lease :-) Good luck and happy new year! Mischa. : I'm pretty sure the version I have is the full retail version because I : leased the software from Dell. However, I'm not sure if Dell actually : cancels licenses after a lease ends or how that works. I'm sure I'll find : out soon so I'll share ... : : Dusty : - Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com- -- Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com - -- Steven Ross web application interface developer http://blog.stevensross.com [mobile] 404-488-4364 [fax] 267-482-4364 [ AIM / Yahoo! : zeriumsteven ] [googleTalk : nowhiding ] - Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista
That is my thought so far too. I'd be curious to hear from some ACFUGers that use Vista. D _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean H. Saxe Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:56 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista Don't downgrade to Vista... I'd stick with XP. -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -- George Orwell, 1945 On Dec 28, 2007, at 9:46 AM, Dusty Hale wrote: Hope everyone had a very merry xmas and wishes for a happy new year. I am going to buy a new notebook before Dec. 31 or at least try to get the order in before year end in order to spend the money before the 2007 tax year ends (for a write off). I was debating with myself as to what OS to get (XP or Vista). I currently use XP Pro. These are my questions if anyone has any feedback or wants to discuss: 1. Should I stay with XP Pro instead of moving to Vista? 2. Are there issues with using Adobe products like CF, DW, or other tools with Vista. 3. If I move to Vista is there a particular version I need to do CF work (home, pro, etc.) 4. If I stay with XP, do I really need the Pro version to do CF work? Any thoughts are appreciated. Dusty - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista
Just to confirm. Can a CF server run on XP home? And what are IIS limitations on XP home. When you say you can't test out IIS settings? I recently figured out a clever way to set up multiple sites in IIS on the XP Pro version I have (which is on a leased PC that is about to to end). However, you can only run one site at a time so you have to do a lot of IIS stops and starts everytime you need to test out multipe sites. That would be a concern for me if I used XP home. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:06 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista No you don't need xp pro to do cf work. Only problem would be that you couldn't test out IIS settings with CF. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:46 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista Hope everyone had a very merry xmas and wishes for a happy new year. I am going to buy a new notebook before Dec. 31 or at least try to get the order in before year end in order to spend the money before the 2007 tax year ends (for a write off). I was debating with myself as to what OS to get (XP or Vista). I currently use XP Pro. These are my questions if anyone has any feedback or wants to discuss: 1. Should I stay with XP Pro instead of moving to Vista? 2. Are there issues with using Adobe products like CF, DW, or other tools with Vista. 3. If I move to Vista is there a particular version I need to do CF work (home, pro, etc.) 4. If I stay with XP, do I really need the Pro version to do CF work? Any thoughts are appreciated. Dusty - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista
Just curious if you are able to run SQL and/or Oracle on a Mac? _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Kaufman Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:15 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista I had the very same before the year end dilemma but had after 22 years with Microsoft have decided to GO MAC-cause it just works. Period. Best of luck, and I do agree with Dean's comment don't downgrade to Vista-unless you're into horror stories. Dan K. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 6:46 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista Hope everyone had a very merry xmas and wishes for a happy new year. I am going to buy a new notebook before Dec. 31 or at least try to get the order in before year end in order to spend the money before the 2007 tax year ends (for a write off). I was debating with myself as to what OS to get (XP or Vista). I currently use XP Pro. These are my questions if anyone has any feedback or wants to discuss: 1. Should I stay with XP Pro instead of moving to Vista? 2. Are there issues with using Adobe products like CF, DW, or other tools with Vista. 3. If I move to Vista is there a particular version I need to do CF work (home, pro, etc.) 4. If I stay with XP, do I really need the Pro version to do CF work? Any thoughts are appreciated. Dusty - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista
I think I will just stay with XP Pro. Thanks for letting me know about IIS not coming on Home. That sold me on staying with Pro. Cheers, Dusty _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:31 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista Here's a link if you would want to go through the trouble of trying to install iis on xp home... http://adamv.com/dev/articles/iis-on-xp-home _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:21 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista Just to confirm. Can a CF server run on XP home? And what are IIS limitations on XP home. When you say you can't test out IIS settings? I recently figured out a clever way to set up multiple sites in IIS on the XP Pro version I have (which is on a leased PC that is about to to end). However, you can only run one site at a time so you have to do a lot of IIS stops and starts everytime you need to test out multipe sites. That would be a concern for me if I used XP home. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:06 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista No you don't need xp pro to do cf work. Only problem would be that you couldn't test out IIS settings with CF. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:46 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista Hope everyone had a very merry xmas and wishes for a happy new year. I am going to buy a new notebook before Dec. 31 or at least try to get the order in before year end in order to spend the money before the 2007 tax year ends (for a write off). I was debating with myself as to what OS to get (XP or Vista). I currently use XP Pro. These are my questions if anyone has any feedback or wants to discuss: 1. Should I stay with XP Pro instead of moving to Vista? 2. Are there issues with using Adobe products like CF, DW, or other tools with Vista. 3. If I move to Vista is there a particular version I need to do CF work (home, pro, etc.) 4. If I stay with XP, do I really need the Pro version to do CF work? Any thoughts are appreciated. Dusty - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista
SQL Server won't run native in OS X but you can run it in VMware or Parallels (or boot the machine into XP/Vista). Oracle is supported natively. I've tried NeoOffice but as you can get Microsoft Office for OS X I'm not sure why you would go that route. On 12/28/07, Dan Kaufman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a good question—of course. And in the interest of full disclosure…I have decided to Go MAC but have not as of yet consummated the marriage. A stronger desire to upgrade my photography equipment to Canon EOS (pro digital) prevailed so I'll be putting off the iMAC purchase off until late January. But never-the-less, minor delay or not, I do absolutely intend to move to MAC. I will keep my Windows equipment so I can cross-check, browser-check, etc. The big dilemma that I don't have a clear answer on though is similar to your question of SQL, is all the other software I'm going to have to re-purchase. I did get a great recommendation for NeoOffice ( http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/features.php). This will at least cover the Microsoft Office Suite stuff. And CF Eclipse is also available for MAC. -- Howard Fore, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right. -- Henry Ford - Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista
Yea I might just take the entire fork and get two notebooks. A pc and a mac. I would like to start offering site testing for Mac in the future so it would be a plus. More tax savings!!! Right on!!! D _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Kaufman Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:46 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista That's a good question-of course. And in the interest of full disclosure.I have decided to Go MAC but have not as of yet consummated the marriage. A stronger desire to upgrade my photography equipment to Canon EOS (pro digital) prevailed so I'll be putting off the iMAC purchase off until late January. But never-the-less, minor delay or not, I do absolutely intend to move to MAC. I will keep my Windows equipment so I can cross-check, browser-check, etc. The big dilemma that I don't have a clear answer on though is similar to your question of SQL, is all the other software I'm going to have to re-purchase. I did get a great recommendation for NeoOffice (http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/features.php). This will at least cover the Microsoft Office Suite stuff. And CF Eclipse is also available for MAC. Whatever you do best wishes. I try to always follow Yogi Bera's sage advise: When I come to a fork in the road. .I take it. Dan K. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:23 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista Just curious if you are able to run SQL and/or Oracle on a Mac? _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Kaufman Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:15 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista I had the very same before the year end dilemma but had after 22 years with Microsoft have decided to GO MAC-cause it just works. Period. Best of luck, and I do agree with Dean's comment don't downgrade to Vista-unless you're into horror stories. Dan K. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 6:46 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista Hope everyone had a very merry xmas and wishes for a happy new year. I am going to buy a new notebook before Dec. 31 or at least try to get the order in before year end in order to spend the money before the 2007 tax year ends (for a write off). I was debating with myself as to what OS to get (XP or Vista). I currently use XP Pro. These are my questions if anyone has any feedback or wants to discuss: 1. Should I stay with XP Pro instead of moving to Vista? 2. Are there issues with using Adobe products like CF, DW, or other tools with Vista. 3. If I move to Vista is there a particular version I need to do CF work (home, pro, etc.) 4. If I stay with XP, do I really need the Pro version to do CF work? Any thoughts are appreciated. Dusty - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista
That a good thought too. I am also upgrading my photo equipment. I'm a Nikon guy though and still using consumer grade D70 but about to move to the D200 and purchase some new lenses. I have to sometimes wear a lot of hats on projects and sometimes, I am the photographer, graphic designer, flash designer, and CF developer. Wish I could just do photo work and video editing all the time LOL ... Working on that in 2008. I have a lot more fun with it than doing CF work LOL. Dusty _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Kaufman Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:46 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista That's a good question-of course. And in the interest of full disclosure.I have decided to Go MAC but have not as of yet consummated the marriage. A stronger desire to upgrade my photography equipment to Canon EOS (pro digital) prevailed so I'll be putting off the iMAC purchase off until late January. But never-the-less, minor delay or not, I do absolutely intend to move to MAC. I will keep my Windows equipment so I can cross-check, browser-check, etc. The big dilemma that I don't have a clear answer on though is similar to your question of SQL, is all the other software I'm going to have to re-purchase. I did get a great recommendation for NeoOffice (http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/features.php). This will at least cover the Microsoft Office Suite stuff. And CF Eclipse is also available for MAC. Whatever you do best wishes. I try to always follow Yogi Bera's sage advise: When I come to a fork in the road. .I take it. Dan K. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:23 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista Just curious if you are able to run SQL and/or Oracle on a Mac? _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Kaufman Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:15 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista I had the very same before the year end dilemma but had after 22 years with Microsoft have decided to GO MAC-cause it just works. Period. Best of luck, and I do agree with Dean's comment don't downgrade to Vista-unless you're into horror stories. Dan K. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 6:46 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista Hope everyone had a very merry xmas and wishes for a happy new year. I am going to buy a new notebook before Dec. 31 or at least try to get the order in before year end in order to spend the money before the 2007 tax year ends (for a write off). I was debating with myself as to what OS to get (XP or Vista). I currently use XP Pro. These are my questions if anyone has any feedback or wants to discuss: 1. Should I stay with XP Pro instead of moving to Vista? 2. Are there issues with using Adobe products like CF, DW, or other tools with Vista. 3. If I move to Vista is there a particular version I need to do CF work (home, pro, etc.) 4. If I stay with XP, do I really need the Pro version to do CF work? Any thoughts are appreciated. Dusty - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista
Why buy 2 when you can have 1 and do both? Spend the extra cash on a MacBook Pro with large HD and RAM. You already have a Windows license... VMWare is ~$70. -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -- George Orwell, 1945 On Dec 28, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Dusty Hale wrote: Yea I might just take the entire fork and get two notebooks. A pc and a mac. I would like to start offering site testing for Mac in the future so it would be a plus. More tax savings!!! Right on!!! D From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Kaufman Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:46 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista That’s a good question—of course. And in the interest of “full disclosure”…I have “decided” to Go MAC but have not as of yet consummated the marriage. A stronger desire to upgrade my photography equipment to Canon EOS (pro digital) prevailed so I’ll be putting off the iMAC purchase off until late January. But never- the-less, minor delay or not, I do absolutely intend to move to MAC. I will keep my Windows equipment so I can cross-check, browser- check, etc. The big dilemma that I don’t have a clear answer on though is similar to your question of SQL, is all the “other software” I’m going to have to re-purchase. I did get a great recommendation for NeoOffice (http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/features.php). This will at least cover the Microsoft Office Suite stuff. And CF Eclipse is also available for MAC. Whatever you do best wishes. I try to always follow Yogi Bera’s sage advise: When I come to a fork in the road… …I take it. Dan K. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:23 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista Just curious if you are able to run SQL and/or Oracle on a Mac? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Kaufman Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:15 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista I had the very same “before the year end” dilemma but had after 22 years with Microsoft have decided to GO MAC—cause it just works. Period. Best of luck, and I do agree with Dean’s comment “don’t downgrade to Vista”—unless you’re into horror stories. Dan K. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 6:46 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista Hope everyone had a very merry xmas and wishes for a happy new year. I am going to buy a new notebook before Dec. 31 or at least try to get the order in before year end in order to spend the money before the 2007 tax year ends (for a write off). I was debating with myself as to what OS to get (XP or Vista). I currently use XP Pro. These are my questions if anyone has any feedback or wants to discuss: 1. Should I stay with XP Pro instead of moving to Vista? 2. Are there issues with using Adobe products like CF, DW, or other tools with Vista. 3. If I move to Vista is there a particular version I need to do CF work (home, pro, etc.) 4. If I stay with XP, do I really need the Pro version to do CF work? Any thoughts are appreciated. Dusty - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista
Any of you have experience running Ubuntu on a laptop with the necessary development tools. I'm currently on XP Pro, but I'm thinking of going the Linux route on my next laptop. Since Vista is not an option. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 11:52 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista I guess since I have never been a Mac owner, I just a little scared to make the commitment to entirely move to a Mac. So the answer to that question would be FEAR LOL ... _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean H. Saxe Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 11:31 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista Why buy 2 when you can have 1 and do both? Spend the extra cash on a MacBook Pro with large HD and RAM. You already have a Windows license... VMWare is ~$70. -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -- George Orwell, 1945 On Dec 28, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Dusty Hale wrote: Yea I might just take the entire fork and get two notebooks. A pc and a mac. I would like to start offering site testing for Mac in the future so it would be a plus. More tax savings!!! Right on!!! D _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Kaufman Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:46 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista That's a good question-of course. And in the interest of full disclosure.I have decided to Go MAC but have not as of yet consummated the marriage. A stronger desire to upgrade my photography equipment to Canon EOS (pro digital) prevailed so I'll be putting off the iMAC purchase off until late January. But never-the-less, minor delay or not, I do absolutely intend to move to MAC. I will keep my Windows equipment so I can cross-check, browser-check, etc. The big dilemma that I don't have a clear answer on though is similar to your question of SQL, is all the other software I'm going to have to re-purchase. I did get a great recommendation for NeoOffice (http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/features.php). This will at least cover the Microsoft Office Suite stuff. And CF Eclipse is also available for MAC. Whatever you do best wishes. I try to always follow Yogi Bera's sage advise: When I come to a fork in the road. .I take it. Dan K. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:23 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista Just curious if you are able to run SQL and/or Oracle on a Mac? _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Kaufman Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:15 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista I had the very same before the year end dilemma but had after 22 years with Microsoft have decided to GO MAC-cause it just works. Period. Best of luck, and I do agree with Dean's comment don't downgrade to Vista-unless you're into horror stories. Dan K. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 6:46 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista Hope everyone had a very merry xmas and wishes for a happy new year. I am going to buy a new notebook before Dec. 31 or at least try to get the order in before year end in order to spend the money before the 2007 tax year ends (for a write off). I was debating with myself as to what OS to get (XP or Vista). I currently use XP Pro. These are my questions if anyone has any feedback or wants to discuss: 1. Should I stay with XP Pro instead of moving to Vista? 2. Are there issues with using Adobe products like CF, DW, or other tools with Vista. 3. If I move to Vista is there a particular version I need to do CF work (home, pro, etc.) 4. If I stay with XP, do I really need the Pro version to do CF work? Any thoughts are appreciated. Dusty - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista
/s/Ubuntu/openSUSE/ and then the answer would be yes J. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Mason Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:06 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista Any of you have experience running Ubuntu on a laptop with the necessary development tools. I'm currently on XP Pro, but I'm thinking of going the Linux route on my next laptop. Since Vista is not an option. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 11:52 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista I guess since I have never been a Mac owner, I just a little scared to make the commitment to entirely move to a Mac. So the answer to that question would be FEAR LOL ... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean H. Saxe Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 11:31 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista Why buy 2 when you can have 1 and do both? Spend the extra cash on a MacBook Pro with large HD and RAM. You already have a Windows license... VMWare is ~$70. -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -- George Orwell, 1945 On Dec 28, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Dusty Hale wrote: Yea I might just take the entire fork and get two notebooks. A pc and a mac. I would like to start offering site testing for Mac in the future so it would be a plus. More tax savings!!! Right on!!! D From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Kaufman Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:46 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista That's a good question-of course. And in the interest of full disclosure...I have decided to Go MAC but have not as of yet consummated the marriage. A stronger desire to upgrade my photography equipment to Canon EOS (pro digital) prevailed so I'll be putting off the iMAC purchase off until late January. But never-the-less, minor delay or not, I do absolutely intend to move to MAC. I will keep my Windows equipment so I can cross-check, browser-check, etc. The big dilemma that I don't have a clear answer on though is similar to your question of SQL, is all the other software I'm going to have to re-purchase. I did get a great recommendation for NeoOffice (http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/features.php). This will at least cover the Microsoft Office Suite stuff. And CF Eclipse is also available for MAC. Whatever you do best wishes. I try to always follow Yogi Bera's sage advise: When I come to a fork in the road... ...I take it. Dan K. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:23 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista Just curious if you are able to run SQL and/or Oracle on a Mac? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Kaufman Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:15 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista I had the very same before the year end dilemma but had after 22 years with Microsoft have decided to GO MAC-cause it just works. Period. Best of luck, and I do agree with Dean's comment don't downgrade to Vista-unless you're into horror stories. Dan K. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 6:46 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista Hope everyone had a very merry xmas and wishes for a happy new year. I am going to buy a new notebook before Dec. 31 or at least try to get the order in before year end in order to spend the money before the 2007 tax year ends (for a write off). I was debating with myself as to what OS to get (XP or Vista). I currently use XP Pro. These are my questions if anyone has any feedback or wants to discuss: 1. Should I stay with XP Pro instead of moving to Vista? 2. Are there issues with using Adobe products like CF, DW, or other tools with Vista. 3. If I move to Vista is there a particular version I need to do CF work (home, pro, etc.) 4. If I stay with XP, do I really need the Pro version to do CF work? Any thoughts are appreciated. Dusty - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see
re[2]: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista
: Pro with large HD and RAM. You already have a Windows license... VMWare is Unless you bought a full XP retail version, you may not be allowed to move it to a different machine. /m - Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
Re: re[2]: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista
Uhm, 2 words. f*ck Microsoft. I'm not saying you should violate your license agreement... but that's BS. -dhs On December 28, 2007, Mischa Uppelschoten ext 10 wrote: Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED] What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? -Gandhi - Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista
I always hesitate before moving to a new OS like that, hence my extensive use of VMWare at both work and home. I'm in love with virtualization because it makes it difficult to really screw something up when you can always revert back to a known stable state. -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -- George Orwell, 1945 On Dec 28, 2007, at 12:05 PM, John Mason wrote: Any of you have experience running Ubuntu on a laptop with the necessary development tools. I'm currently on XP Pro, but I'm thinking of going the Linux route on my next laptop. Since Vista is not an option. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 11:52 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista I guess since I have never been a Mac owner, I just a little scared to make the commitment to entirely move to a Mac. So the answer to that question would be FEAR LOL ... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean H. Saxe Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 11:31 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista Why buy 2 when you can have 1 and do both? Spend the extra cash on a MacBook Pro with large HD and RAM. You already have a Windows license... VMWare is ~$70. -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -- George Orwell, 1945 On Dec 28, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Dusty Hale wrote: Yea I might just take the entire fork and get two notebooks. A pc and a mac. I would like to start offering site testing for Mac in the future so it would be a plus. More tax savings!!! Right on!!! D From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Kaufman Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:46 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista That’s a good question—of course. And in the interest of “full disclosure”…I have “decided” to Go MAC but have not as of yet consummated the marriage. A stronger desire to upgrade my photography equipment to Canon EOS (pro digital) prevailed so I’ll be putting off the iMAC purchase off until late January. But never- the-less, minor delay or not, I do absolutely intend to move to MAC. I will keep my Windows equipment so I can cross-check, browser-check, etc. The big dilemma that I don’t have a clear answer on though is similar to your question of SQL, is all the “other software” I’m going to have to re-purchase. I did get a great recommendation for NeoOffice (http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/features.php). This will at least cover the Microsoft Office Suite stuff. And CF Eclipse is also available for MAC. Whatever you do best wishes. I try to always follow Yogi Bera’s sage advise: When I come to a fork in the road… …I take it. Dan K. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:23 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista Just curious if you are able to run SQL and/or Oracle on a Mac? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Kaufman Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:15 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista I had the very same “before the year end” dilemma but had after 22 years with Microsoft have decided to GO MAC—cause it just works. Period. Best of luck, and I do agree with Dean’s comment “don’t downgrade to Vista”—unless you’re into horror stories. Dan K. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 6:46 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista Hope everyone had a very merry xmas and wishes for a happy new year. I am going to buy a new notebook before Dec. 31 or at least try to get the order in before year end in order to spend the money before the 2007 tax year ends (for a write off). I was debating with myself as to what OS to get (XP or Vista). I currently use XP Pro. These are my questions if anyone has any feedback or wants to discuss: 1. Should I stay with XP Pro instead of moving to Vista? 2. Are there issues with using Adobe products like CF, DW, or other tools with Vista. 3. If I move to Vista is there a particular version I need to do CF work (home, pro, etc.) 4. If I stay with XP, do I really need the Pro version to do CF work? Any thoughts are appreciated. Dusty - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software To unsubscribe from
Re: re[4]: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista
Hahah. No, that's just the thought that crossed my mind when you mentioned the licensing issue. -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds. --Einstein On Dec 28, 2007, at 1:12 PM, Mischa Uppelschoten ext 10 wrote: : f*ck Microsoft. If that's the advice you have for the OP, then you're surely not going to help him connect to MS SQL Server...? - Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista
VMware is great specially for development and I've been using Linux on servers for years just not on a workstation. So it shouldn't be too bad. I'll just convert my current laptop to a vm instance for legacy. I haven't run into a licensing issue with converting to vmware yet. Sometimes you have to re-register but it goes through just fine from my experience. Bare in mind, when your convert an existing machine to vmware. The MAC addresses will change. This will trip the Windows licensing to re-register since it looks for hardware changes. Just re-register and you're good to go. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean H. Saxe Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:25 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista I always hesitate before moving to a new OS like that, hence my extensive use of VMWare at both work and home. I'm in love with virtualization because it makes it difficult to really screw something up when you can always revert back to a known stable state. -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -- George Orwell, 1945 On Dec 28, 2007, at 12:05 PM, John Mason wrote: Any of you have experience running Ubuntu on a laptop with the necessary development tools. I'm currently on XP Pro, but I'm thinking of going the Linux route on my next laptop. Since Vista is not an option. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 11:52 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista I guess since I have never been a Mac owner, I just a little scared to make the commitment to entirely move to a Mac. So the answer to that question would be FEAR LOL ... _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean H. Saxe Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 11:31 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista Why buy 2 when you can have 1 and do both? Spend the extra cash on a MacBook Pro with large HD and RAM. You already have a Windows license... VMWare is ~$70. -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -- George Orwell, 1945 On Dec 28, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Dusty Hale wrote: Yea I might just take the entire fork and get two notebooks. A pc and a mac. I would like to start offering site testing for Mac in the future so it would be a plus. More tax savings!!! Right on!!! D _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Kaufman Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:46 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista That's a good question-of course. And in the interest of full disclosure.I have decided to Go MAC but have not as of yet consummated the marriage. A stronger desire to upgrade my photography equipment to Canon EOS (pro digital) prevailed so I'll be putting off the iMAC purchase off until late January. But never-the-less, minor delay or not, I do absolutely intend to move to MAC. I will keep my Windows equipment so I can cross-check, browser-check, etc. The big dilemma that I don't have a clear answer on though is similar to your question of SQL, is all the other software I'm going to have to re-purchase. I did get a great recommendation for NeoOffice (http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/features.php). This will at least cover the Microsoft Office Suite stuff. And CF Eclipse is also available for MAC. Whatever you do best wishes. I try to always follow Yogi Bera's sage advise: When I come to a fork in the road. .I take it. Dan K. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:23 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista Just curious if you are able to run SQL and/or Oracle on a Mac? _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Kaufman Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:15 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista I had the very same before the year end dilemma but had after 22 years with Microsoft have decided to GO MAC-cause it just works. Period. Best of luck, and I do agree with Dean's comment don't downgrade to Vista-unless you're into horror stories. Dan K. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dusty Hale Sent: Friday, December 28
re[4]: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista
Purely license... I'm guessing it's the same thing as wirth carrier sponsored and locked cellphones. : For a technical reason or some clause in the license?: On 12/28/07, Mischa Uppelschoten ext 10 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: wrote: : : : Pro with large HD and RAM. You already have a Windows license... VMWare is: : Unless you bought a full XP retail version, you may not be allowed to move it: to a different machine. : /m - Annual: Sponsor FigLeaf Software -http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this: list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For: more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @: http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by: http://www.fusionlink.com: - : -- : Howard Fore, [EMAIL PROTECTED]: "Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right." -- Henry Ford : - : Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software : : To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ : http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform : : For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists : Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ : List hosted by FusionLink : -Mischa UppelschotenThe Banker's Exchange, LLC.4200 Highlands Parkway SESuite ASmyrna, GA 30082-5198Phone:(404) 605-0100 ext. 10Fax:(404) 355-7930Web:www.BankersX.comFollow this link for Instant Web Chat:http://www.bankersx.com/Contact/chat.cfm?Queue=MUPPELSCHOTEN --- Original Message --- From:"Howard Fore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:discussion@acfug.org Date:Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:56:18 -0500 Subject:Re: re[2]: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista For a technical reason or some clause in the license? On 12/28/07, Mischa Uppelschoten ext 10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : Pro with large HD and RAM. You already have a Windows license... VMWare is Unless you bought a full XP retail version, you may not be allowed to move it to a different machine. /m- Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - -- Howard Fore, [EMAIL PROTECTED]"Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right." -- Henry Ford - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - - Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
re[4]: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista
If XP came with the laptop, then likely not. I'm not trying to be holier than the pope, but if you want to be legal, it will add $200 to the cost of your Mac. : I have a licensed Windows XP Pro version running but the laptop is a business: lease through Dell and all the software is leased as well (including Abobe: products and CF tools). I'm hoping I can purchase upgrades for all the Adobe: products and still use the software. Not sure if I will be able to use the: XP Pro license or not after the lease expires in April.: : From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mischa: Uppelschoten ext 10: Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:26 PM: To: Web Site: Subject: re[2]: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista: : : : Pro with large HD and RAM. You already have a Windows license... VMWare: is: : Unless you bought a full XP retail version, you may not be allowed to move it: to a different machine. : /m- Annual: Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this: list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For : more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ : http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by : http://www.fusionlink.com : -Mischa UppelschotenThe Banker's Exchange, LLC.4200 Highlands Parkway SESuite ASmyrna, GA 30082-5198Phone:(404) 605-0100 ext. 10Fax:(404) 355-7930Web:www.BankersX.comFollow this link for Instant Web Chat:http://www.bankersx.com/Contact/chat.cfm?Queue=MUPPELSCHOTEN --- Original Message --- From:"Dusty Hale" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:discussion@acfug.org Date:Fri, 28 Dec 2007 13:04:32 -0500 Subject:RE: re[2]: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista I have a licensed Windows XP Pro version running but the laptop is a business lease through Dell and all the software is leased as well (including Abobe products and CF tools). I'm hoping I can purchase upgrades for all the Adobe products and still use the software. Not sure if I will be able to use the XP Pro license or not after the lease expires in April. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mischa Uppelschoten ext 10Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:26 PMTo: Web SiteSubject: re[2]: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista : Pro with large HD and RAM. You already have a Windows license... VMWare is Unless you bought a full XP retail version, you may not be allowed to move it to a different machine. /m- Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - - Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: re[4]: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista
I'm pretty sure the version I have is the full retail version because I leased the software from Dell. However, I'm not sure if Dell actually cancels licenses after a lease ends or how that works. I'm sure I'll find out soon so I'll share ... Dusty _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mischa Uppelschoten ext 10 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 1:17 PM To: Web Site Subject: re[4]: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista Purely license... I'm guessing it's the same thing as wirth carrier sponsored and locked cellphones. : For a technical reason or some clause in the license? : On 12/28/07, Mischa Uppelschoten ext 10 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] : wrote: : : : Pro with large HD and RAM. You already have a Windows license... VMWare is : : Unless you bought a full XP retail version, you may not be allowed to move it : to a different machine. : /m - Annual : Sponsor FigLeaf Software -http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this : list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For : more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ : http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by : http://www.fusionlink.com http://www.fusionlink.com : - : -- : Howard Fore, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right. -- Henry Ford : - : Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software : : To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ : http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform : : For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists : Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ : List hosted by FusionLink : - Mischa Uppelschoten The Banker's Exchange, LLC. 4200 Highlands Parkway SE Suite A Smyrna, GA 30082-5198 Phone:(404) 605-0100 ext. 10 Fax:(404) 355-7930 Web: http://www.BankersX.com www.BankersX.com Follow this link for Instant Web Chat: http://www.bankersx.com/Contact/chat.cfm?Queue=MUPPELSCHOTEN http://www.bankersx.com/Contact/chat.cfm?Queue=MUPPELSCHOTEN --- Original Message --- From: Howard Fore mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailto:discussion@acfug.org discussion@acfug.org Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:56:18 -0500 Subject: Re: re[2]: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista For a technical reason or some clause in the license? On 12/28/07, Mischa Uppelschoten ext 10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : Pro with large HD and RAM. You already have a Windows license... VMWare is Unless you bought a full XP retail version, you may not be allowed to move it to a different machine. /m - Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - -- Howard Fore, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right. -- Henry Ford - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List
RE: re[4]: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista
Just waiting for AIR to be supported on Linux. Building a MSSQL management tool with AIR wouldn't be too bad. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mischa Uppelschoten ext 10 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 1:12 PM To: Web Site Subject: re[4]: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista : f*ck Microsoft. If that's the advice you have for the OP, then you're surely not going to help him connect to MS SQL Server...? - Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=gin.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista
If you have peripherals you should check to see if there are drivers out there for them before changing to Vista. My graphics tablet that I bought about a month before I moved to Vista no longer works and the vendor has stated they will not create drivers for them. My laserjet printer, which is old, worked with XP but not with Vista at all. You can used CF with Vista, I haven't had any problems, but I prefer XP Pro. Get a lot of memory (2 or more gigs RAM) and a huge harddrive. I am using Vista Business Edition. I have read that Vista Ultimate is not worth the money and that some promised features are not available because the team that was supposed to provide the added features was dismantled. Personally, if I had not needed a PC as soon as I did, I would have never chosen Vista at all. XP Pro is much better. Vista, to me, is a step down. It still has loads of trouble. If you do get Vista, you can't change your XML files to open with another application because if you do, the Vista help files will no longer work (found this out after I set Dreamweaver as my default XML editor). I wouldn't use Vista Home is you are planning on using the CF Local Server. I can't remember all the details - maybe someone else can clarify reasons not to use Home of any version to use if you will be running CF's local web server. Basically, XP Pro is what I would stick with. On Dec 28, 2007 9:46 AM, Dusty Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hope everyone had a very merry xmas and wishes for a happy new year. I am going to buy a new notebook before Dec. 31 or at least try to get the order in before year end in order to spend the money before the 2007 tax year ends (for a write off). I was debating with myself as to what OS to get (XP or Vista). I currently use XP Pro. These are my questions if anyone has any feedback or wants to discuss: 1. Should I stay with XP Pro instead of moving to Vista? 2. Are there issues with using Adobe products like CF, DW, or other tools with Vista. 3. If I move to Vista is there a particular version I need to do CF work (home, pro, etc.) 4. If I stay with XP, do I really need the Pro version to do CF work? Any thoughts are appreciated. Dusty - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserformhttp://www.acfug.org/?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com/ - -- Regina Stevens _ Intranet and Internet ColdFusion Applications Developer - Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
re[6]: [ACFUG Discuss] CF and Vista
If your lease with Dell is anything like my lease with CDW, they don't really care what you lease; they just see a purchase amount and calculate your payment, that's it. I was even able to roll a one year software maintenance renewal fee into a three year lease :-) Good luck and happy new year! Mischa. : I'm pretty sure the version I have is the full retail version because I: leased the software from Dell. However, I'm not sure if Dell actually: cancels licenses after a lease ends or how that works. I'm sure I'll find: out soon so I'll share ... : : Dusty: - Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
