Re: [Distutils] ANNOUNCE: Sunsetting of uploading to the legacy PyPI/TestPyPI

2017-07-18 Thread Jean-Christophe Fillion-Robin 
Hi Donald,

Since scikit-build allows to easily build wheels including cython, cpp, c,
fortran by both leveraging CMake and nicely integrating with setuptools, I
was thinking to add it to the Key Projects list as a non-PyPA project. To
avoid spamming the list, I will create a PR similar enscons [1] one.

Thanks
Jc

[1] https://github.com/pypa/python-packaging-user-guide/issues/337

On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Donald Stufft  wrote:

> What list of key projects?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 17, 2017, at 9:57 AM, Jean-Christophe Fillion-Robin <
> jchris.filli...@kitware.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Would it be possible to also add scikit-build to the list of key projects ?
>
> See http://scikit-build.org and https://blog.kitware.com/18772-2/
>
> Thanks
> Jc
>
>
> On Jul 3, 2017 12:50 PM, "Donald Stufft"  wrote:
>
>
> On Jun 30, 2017, at 10:48 AM, Donald Stufft  wrote:
>
>
> On Jun 29, 2017, at 12:09 PM, Donald Stufft  wrote:
>
> This is done on PyPI now, tomorrow I’ll revert it until July 3rd.
>
>
>
> Upload API is re-enabled until July 3rd.
>
>
>
> Upload API is now dead for good.
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Re: [Distutils] ANNOUNCE: Sunsetting of uploading to the legacy PyPI/TestPyPI

2017-07-17 Thread Donald Stufft 
What list of key projects?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 17, 2017, at 9:57 AM, Jean-Christophe Fillion-Robin 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> Would it be possible to also add scikit-build to the list of key projects ?
> 
> See http://scikit-build.org and https://blog.kitware.com/18772-2/
> 
> Thanks
> Jc
> 
> 
>> On Jul 3, 2017 12:50 PM, "Donald Stufft"  wrote:
>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2017, at 10:48 AM, Donald Stufft  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 12:09 PM, Donald Stufft  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is done on PyPI now, tomorrow I’ll revert it until July 3rd.
>> 
>> 
>> Upload API is re-enabled until July 3rd. 
>> 
> 
> 
> Upload API is now dead for good.
> 
> —
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Re: [Distutils] ANNOUNCE: Sunsetting of uploading to the legacy PyPI/TestPyPI

2017-07-17 Thread Jean-Christophe Fillion-Robin 
Hi,

Would it be possible to also add scikit-build to the list of key projects ?

See http://scikit-build.org and https://blog.kitware.com/18772-2/

Thanks
Jc


On Jul 3, 2017 12:50 PM, "Donald Stufft"  wrote:


On Jun 30, 2017, at 10:48 AM, Donald Stufft  wrote:


On Jun 29, 2017, at 12:09 PM, Donald Stufft  wrote:

This is done on PyPI now, tomorrow I’ll revert it until July 3rd.



Upload API is re-enabled until July 3rd.



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Re: [Distutils] ANNOUNCE: Sunsetting of uploading to the legacy PyPI/TestPyPI

2017-07-03 Thread Donald Stufft 

> On Jun 30, 2017, at 10:48 AM, Donald Stufft  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 12:09 PM, Donald Stufft > > wrote:
>> 
>> This is done on PyPI now, tomorrow I’ll revert it until July 3rd.
> 
> 
> Upload API is re-enabled until July 3rd. 
> 


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Re: [Distutils] ANNOUNCE: Sunsetting of uploading to the legacy PyPI/TestPyPI

2017-06-30 Thread Donald Stufft 

> On Jun 29, 2017, at 12:09 PM, Donald Stufft  wrote:
> 
> This is done on PyPI now, tomorrow I’ll revert it until July 3rd.


Upload API is re-enabled until July 3rd. 

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Re: [Distutils] ANNOUNCE: Sunsetting of uploading to the legacy PyPI/TestPyPI

2017-06-29 Thread Donald Stufft 

> On Jun 28, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Donald Stufft  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Jun 22, 2017, at 12:32 PM, Donald Stufft > > wrote:
>> 
>> For TestPyPI the change to disable uploads to legacy will be made in the next
>> couple of days, likely this weekend.
> 
> 
> This is done now. Tomorrow we’ll deploy it to real PyPI for the day, but it 
> will then be reverted until July 3rd.
> 


This is done on PyPI now, tomorrow I’ll revert it until July 3rd.


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Re: [Distutils] ANNOUNCE: Sunsetting of uploading to the legacy PyPI/TestPyPI

2017-06-28 Thread Donald Stufft 

> On Jun 22, 2017, at 12:32 PM, Donald Stufft  wrote:
> 
> For TestPyPI the change to disable uploads to legacy will be made in the next
> couple of days, likely this weekend.


This is done now. Tomorrow we’ll deploy it to real PyPI for the day, but it 
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Re: [Distutils] ANNOUNCE: Sunsetting of uploading to the legacy PyPI/TestPyPI

2017-06-24 Thread Nick Coghlan 
On 25 June 2017 at 01:18, Randy Syring  wrote:
> For what it's worth, for the projects that are almost ready to recommend,
> but not quite there (like Flit per the discussion on issue 336), would it
> hurt to have an "provisional" area to the key projects list that makes
> people aware of the projects without "blessing" them as Key Projects.  The
> whole point of that section of the guide is to raise awareness, yes?  Well
> if something like Flit is almost ready, but pending for a small reason or
> two, why not publish it anyway with some kind of "provision" label or
> something and an explanation of why the project is important, but not quite
> yet ready?

The key projects list is already aimed more at folks wanting to dive
into the details of how PyPA and the Python packaging ecosystem
actually work in practice (e.g. packaging and distlib are both listed,
and those are really only relevant to folks writing their own
packaging related tools).

The "definitely relevant to end users" list is the one at
https://packaging.python.org/guides/tool-recommendations/ (and after
discussing the idea with Thomas, we're not going to add flit there
until after its 1.0 release)

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Re: [Distutils] ANNOUNCE: Sunsetting of uploading to the legacy PyPI/TestPyPI

2017-06-24 Thread Ben Finney 
Randy Syring  writes:

> […] would it hurt to have an "provisional" area to the key projects
> list that makes people aware of the projects without "blessing" them
> as Key Projects.

It might hurt, yes. I am already quite confused by what is meant to be
done in the Brave New World described in this thread.

Pointing to a document that gives a set of tools is helpful – now I have
only the confusion of figuring out whether all my development and
deployment environments can use those – but that document becomes *less*
useful as you add more decisions I need to make.

> The whole point of that section of the guide is to raise awareness,
> yes?

That describes the purpose of an announcement like this. I'm now aware
of the change that's looming.

On the conitrary, the point of the section of the guide, for a user like
me, is to *simplify* the actions I need to take to survive the
transition.

Adding more options to decide between, however well-intentioned, will
work against that purpose.

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Re: [Distutils] ANNOUNCE: Sunsetting of uploading to the legacy PyPI/TestPyPI

2017-06-24 Thread Jakub Wilk 

* Donald Stufft , 2017-06-23, 10:21:
Where can we find the exact versions of each that default to ‘pypi.org’ for 
uploads?


Umm. Twine 1.8.0, Python 3.4.6, 3.5.3, 3.6.0, Not sure on 2.7,


$ git tag --contains=7127b62702bd50bf44138e6f57334887cbcb5ca8
v2.7.13rc1
v2.7.13

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Re: [Distutils] ANNOUNCE: Sunsetting of uploading to the legacy PyPI/TestPyPI

2017-06-24 Thread Randy Syring 
For what it's worth, for the projects that are almost ready to 
recommend, but not quite there (like Flit per the discussion on issue 
336), would it hurt to have an "provisional" area to the key projects 
list that makes people aware of the projects without "blessing" them as 
Key Projects.  The whole point of that section of the guide is to raise 
awareness, yes?  Well if something like Flit is almost ready, but 
pending for a small reason or two, why not publish it anyway with some 
kind of "provision" label or something and an explanation of why the 
project is important, but not quite yet ready?


"Provisional" may not be the best term, couldn't think of a better term 
at the moment.


Just my $0.02.

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On 06/24/2017 09:15 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:

On 24 June 2017 at 18:56, Thomas Kluyver  wrote:

For reference, I switched the default upload server for flit in version
0.11.

Oh, I'd also missed that 0.11 published sdists now.

Given that, I think we should start recommending flit for new pure
Python projects (the lack of sdists was the only thing previously
making me hesitant about that), and then add it to the PyPI upload
migration list as well.

It's also missing an entry in the Key Projects list:
https://packaging.python.org/key_projects/

I've filed an issue to discuss that here:
https://github.com/pypa/python-packaging-user-guide/issues/336

We should probably add enscons to the Key Projects list as well, since
that allows folks the option of using a full pip-installable C/C++
build system as an alternative to setuptools/distutils, so I also
filed an issue to discuss that:
https://github.com/pypa/python-packaging-user-guide/issues/337

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Re: [Distutils] ANNOUNCE: Sunsetting of uploading to the legacy PyPI/TestPyPI

2017-06-24 Thread Nick Coghlan 
On 24 June 2017 at 18:56, Thomas Kluyver  wrote:
> For reference, I switched the default upload server for flit in version
> 0.11.

Oh, I'd also missed that 0.11 published sdists now.

Given that, I think we should start recommending flit for new pure
Python projects (the lack of sdists was the only thing previously
making me hesitant about that), and then add it to the PyPI upload
migration list as well.

It's also missing an entry in the Key Projects list:
https://packaging.python.org/key_projects/

I've filed an issue to discuss that here:
https://github.com/pypa/python-packaging-user-guide/issues/336

We should probably add enscons to the Key Projects list as well, since
that allows folks the option of using a full pip-installable C/C++
build system as an alternative to setuptools/distutils, so I also
filed an issue to discuss that:
https://github.com/pypa/python-packaging-user-guide/issues/337

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Re: [Distutils] ANNOUNCE: Sunsetting of uploading to the legacy PyPI/TestPyPI

2017-06-24 Thread Thomas Kluyver 
For reference, I switched the default upload server for flit in version
0.11.

On Sat, Jun 24, 2017, at 08:45 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> On 24 June 2017 at 15:24, Nick Coghlan  wrote:
> > https://packaging.python.org/guides/tool-recommendations/ is missing a
> > section on "Publishing platform" that explains the migration that is
> > currently in progress and covers what pypi.org currently handles
> > better than pypi.python.org (publishing), which should still use
> > pypi.python.org (downloading due to server bandwidth availability,
> > package management UI), and those where it doesn't matter much which
> > you use (browsing).
> 
> The new "Publishing Platform Migration" section is now live:
> https://packaging.python.org/guides/tool-recommendations/#publishing-platform-migration
> 
> Cheers,
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Re: [Distutils] ANNOUNCE: Sunsetting of uploading to the legacy PyPI/TestPyPI

2017-06-24 Thread Nick Coghlan 
On 24 June 2017 at 15:24, Nick Coghlan  wrote:
> https://packaging.python.org/guides/tool-recommendations/ is missing a
> section on "Publishing platform" that explains the migration that is
> currently in progress and covers what pypi.org currently handles
> better than pypi.python.org (publishing), which should still use
> pypi.python.org (downloading due to server bandwidth availability,
> package management UI), and those where it doesn't matter much which
> you use (browsing).

The new "Publishing Platform Migration" section is now live:
https://packaging.python.org/guides/tool-recommendations/#publishing-platform-migration

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Re: [Distutils] ANNOUNCE: Sunsetting of uploading to the legacy PyPI/TestPyPI

2017-06-23 Thread Nick Coghlan 
On 24 June 2017 at 01:11, Michael Merickel  wrote:
> As far as which UI is recommended to manage your packages and for end-users
> to view things - I'm not sure about that timeline. For viewing packages I've
> been using pypi.org for a while now with minimal issues but it still has no
> management features in the UI.

Thanks for that. I better understand Ben's question now, and it made
me realise that
https://packaging.python.org/guides/tool-recommendations/ is missing a
section on "Publishing platform" that explains the migration that is
currently in progress and covers what pypi.org currently handles
better than pypi.python.org (publishing), which should still use
pypi.python.org (downloading due to server bandwidth availability,
package management UI), and those where it doesn't matter much which
you use (browsing).

I've created a PR to add that here:
https://github.com/pypa/python-packaging-user-guide/pull/334

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Re: [Distutils] ANNOUNCE: Sunsetting of uploading to the legacy PyPI/TestPyPI

2017-06-23 Thread Donald Stufft 

> On Jun 23, 2017, at 11:11 AM, Michael Merickel  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 9:43 AM, Ben Finney  > wrote:
> So, what is the period – when does it start and when does it end – that
> the Crossover state will active?
> 
> The time of officially recommending "pypi.org " was Sept 
> 2017 when setuptools v27 was released which switched the default.
> 
> https://setuptools.readthedocs.io/en/latest/history.html#v27-0-0 
> 
> 
> I think Donald is saying that period of them both working will be over on 
> July 3rd at which point only pypi.org  will work.
> 
> As far as which UI is recommended to manage your packages and for end-users 
> to view things - I'm not sure about that timeline. For viewing packages I've 
> been using pypi.org  for a while now with minimal issues 
> but it still has no management features in the UI.
> 

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Re: [Distutils] ANNOUNCE: Sunsetting of uploading to the legacy PyPI/TestPyPI

2017-06-23 Thread Michael Merickel 
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 9:43 AM, Ben Finney 
wrote:

> So, what is the period – when does it start and when does it end – that
> the Crossover state will active?
>

The time of officially recommending "pypi.org" was Sept 2017 when
setuptools v27 was released which switched the default.

https://setuptools.readthedocs.io/en/latest/history.html#v27-0-0

I think Donald is saying that period of them both working will be over on
July 3rd at which point only pypi.org will work.

As far as which UI is recommended to manage your packages and for end-users
to view things - I'm not sure about that timeline. For viewing packages
I've been using pypi.org for a while now with minimal issues but it still
has no management features in the UI.
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Re: [Distutils] ANNOUNCE: Sunsetting of uploading to the legacy PyPI/TestPyPI

2017-06-23 Thread Ben Finney 
Donald Stufft  writes:

> Umm. Twine 1.8.0, Python 3.4.6, 3.5.3, 3.6.0, Not sure on 2.7, the
> Github interface seems to be broken and not listing the tags for that
> one.

Thanks. What version of Setuptools is needed?

I'm hoping that the above list will be prominently published with the
documentation that we point people toward for announcing we should be
using those tools.

(“Use the latest version of the tool” doesn't cut it; we'll need to
check what versions our operating system provides, and know whether it's
in or out of compliance with the above list.)

> > What is the cross-over period: ‘pypi.org’ as the primary
> > recommendation, while ‘pypi.python.org’ continues to work?
>
> I’m not sure what specifically you’re asking here? Are you looking for
> how long they’re both going to remain active or the process we’re
> going to migrate things over with? Or something else?

I'm working on the assumption the sequence will include:

* Now: Uploading to ‘pypi.python.org’ is officially recommended; it goes
  to the same data store as uploading to ‘pypi.org’. Both work fine.

* Crossover: Uploading to ‘pypi.org’ is officially recommended; it goes
  to the same data store as uploading to ‘pypi.python.org’. Both work
  fine.

* Warehouse Rules Alone: Uploading to ‘pypi.org’ is recommended, because
  uploading to ‘pypi.python.org’ doesn't work.

So, what is the period – when does it start and when does it end – that
the Crossover state will active?

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Re: [Distutils] ANNOUNCE: Sunsetting of uploading to the legacy PyPI/TestPyPI

2017-06-23 Thread Donald Stufft 

> On Jun 23, 2017, at 6:44 AM, Ben Finney  wrote:
> 
> Donald Stufft  writes:
> 
>> […] rewrite PyPI in order to solve a lot of long standing problems.
>> For those who aren't aware, that is currently available at
>> https://pypi.org/
> 
> Thank you to everyone involved in bringing this to fruition!
> 
>> For a awhile now, Python, setuptools, and twine have all defaulted to
>> using this new code base for uploading artifacts to PyPI.
> 
> Where can we find the exact versions of each that default to ‘pypi.org’
> for uploads?

Umm. Twine 1.8.0, Python 3.4.6, 3.5.3, 3.6.0, Not sure on 2.7, the Github 
interface seems to be broken and not listing the tags for that one.

Essentially it was committed 11 months ago and whatever releases came after 
that.

> 
>> [‘pypi.org’] uses the same database that "Legacy" PyPI does, so the
>> two are essentially just different views over the same data.
> 
> At what point does the big red warning banner (“ This is a
> pre-production deployment of Warehouse.”) come down?


Roughly whenever we have Warehouse hosted in a place that can handle that 
30-40tb/month that Rackspace says our origin servers receive that would come 
Warehouse’s way at that point. PyPI is massively read heavy to an absurd 
degree, so the traffic from uploads is relatively small compared to the traffic 
from downloads, and currently Warehouse is not hosted in a way to handle our 
read traffic.

The other thing the banner accomplishes is to provide warning that you may see 
weirdness in the UI (for example, hardcoded demo data etc) and to indicate that 
this is normal and please don’t file bugs for it.


> 
> What is the cross-over period: ‘pypi.org’ as the primary recommendation,
> while ‘pypi.python.org’ continues to work?


I’m not sure what specifically you’re asking here? Are you looking for how long 
they’re both going to remain active or the process we’re going to migrate 
things over with? Or something else?

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Re: [Distutils] ANNOUNCE: Sunsetting of uploading to the legacy PyPI/TestPyPI

2017-06-23 Thread Ben Finney 
Nick Coghlan  writes:

> On 23 June 2017 at 20:44, Ben Finney  wrote:
> > What is the cross-over period: ‘pypi.org’ as the primary
> > recommendation, while ‘pypi.python.org’ continues to work?
>
> Full migration = pypi.python.org becomes a CNAME for pypi.org.

Thank you, that is the state at the *end* of the cross-over period. But
that's not what I asked.

What is the cross-over period, during which we have ‘pypi.org’ as the
primary recommendation, while ‘pypi.python.org’ continues to work as it
currently does?

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2017-06-23 Thread Nick Coghlan 
On 23 June 2017 at 20:44, Ben Finney  wrote:
> Donald Stufft  writes:
>> [‘pypi.org’] uses the same database that "Legacy" PyPI does, so the
>> two are essentially just different views over the same data.
>
> At what point does the big red warning banner (“ This is a
> pre-production deployment of Warehouse.”) come down?

For non-logged-in use, pretty much anytime, but a lot of the logged-in
publisher pages aren't complete enough to allow a full migration yet.

> What is the cross-over period: ‘pypi.org’ as the primary recommendation,
> while ‘pypi.python.org’ continues to work?

Full migration = pypi.python.org becomes a CNAME for pypi.org.

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2017-06-23 Thread Ben Finney 
Donald Stufft  writes:

> […] rewrite PyPI in order to solve a lot of long standing problems.
> For those who aren't aware, that is currently available at
> https://pypi.org/

Thank you to everyone involved in bringing this to fruition!

> For a awhile now, Python, setuptools, and twine have all defaulted to
> using this new code base for uploading artifacts to PyPI.

Where can we find the exact versions of each that default to ‘pypi.org’
for uploads?

> [‘pypi.org’] uses the same database that "Legacy" PyPI does, so the
> two are essentially just different views over the same data.

At what point does the big red warning banner (“ This is a
pre-production deployment of Warehouse.”) come down?

What is the cross-over period: ‘pypi.org’ as the primary recommendation,
while ‘pypi.python.org’ continues to work?

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Re: [Distutils] ANNOUNCE: Sunsetting of uploading to the legacy PyPI/TestPyPI

2017-06-22 Thread Donald Stufft 

> On Jun 22, 2017, at 2:10 PM, Lele Gaifax  wrote:
> 
> Donald Stufft  writes:
> 
>> Oh never mind, this already works: https://pypi.org/search/?q==-created
>> 
> 
> Thank you! Even if a bit more verbose than the old interface, being able
> to look back several days is a bonus, I will relax my compulsive visits :-)
> 

Yea! The only caveat is right now the search index isn’t updated on demand 
(it’s on my TODO list) so there is some lag time.


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Re: [Distutils] ANNOUNCE: Sunsetting of uploading to the legacy PyPI/TestPyPI

2017-06-22 Thread Lele Gaifax 
Donald Stufft  writes:

> Oh never mind, this already works: https://pypi.org/search/?q==-created
> 

Thank you! Even if a bit more verbose than the old interface, being able
to look back several days is a bonus, I will relax my compulsive visits :-)

ciao, lele.
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Re: [Distutils] ANNOUNCE: Sunsetting of uploading to the legacy PyPI/TestPyPI

2017-06-22 Thread Donald Stufft 

> On Jun 22, 2017, at 1:37 PM, Donald Stufft  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Jun 22, 2017, at 1:00 PM, Lele Gaifax > > wrote:
>> 
>> Donald Stufft > writes:
>> 
>>> As most people are aware, there has been an effort under way to rewrite 
>>> PyPI in
>>> order to solve a lot of long standing problems. For those who aren't aware, 
>>> that
>>> is currently available at https://pypi.org/  and it uses 
>>> the same database that
>>> "Legacy" PyPI does, so the two are essentially just different views over the
>>> same data.
>> 
>> Great, thank you all for the effort!
>> 
>> As I'm used to keep an eye from time to time on https://pypi.python.org/pypi 
>> ,
>> just to spot relevant upgrades, or see something new that catches my
>> attention, I wonder if the new interface offers a similar view, or some kind
>> of RSS feed, with more than the five "New Releases" box.
>> 
> 
> 
> Can you open an issue on https://github.com/pypa/warehouse? 
>  I think we could probably add something 
> along this lines. At a minimum an RSS feed should be easy (which I think we 
> already have, but it may not be a great one) but I’m thinking maybe the 
> search interface could allow ordering by last update too, then you can search 
> for nothing and get the most recently updated things across the entire site, 
> but it would also let you search for say “Django” and get the most recently 
> updated things that have to do with Django.
> 



Oh never mind, this already works: https://pypi.org/search/?q==-created 


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Re: [Distutils] ANNOUNCE: Sunsetting of uploading to the legacy PyPI/TestPyPI

2017-06-22 Thread Donald Stufft 

> On Jun 22, 2017, at 1:00 PM, Lele Gaifax  wrote:
> 
> Donald Stufft  writes:
> 
>> As most people are aware, there has been an effort under way to rewrite PyPI 
>> in
>> order to solve a lot of long standing problems. For those who aren't aware, 
>> that
>> is currently available at https://pypi.org/ and it uses the same database 
>> that
>> "Legacy" PyPI does, so the two are essentially just different views over the
>> same data.
> 
> Great, thank you all for the effort!
> 
> As I'm used to keep an eye from time to time on https://pypi.python.org/pypi,
> just to spot relevant upgrades, or see something new that catches my
> attention, I wonder if the new interface offers a similar view, or some kind
> of RSS feed, with more than the five "New Releases" box.
> 


Can you open an issue on https://github.com/pypa/warehouse? 
 I think we could probably add something 
along this lines. At a minimum an RSS feed should be easy (which I think we 
already have, but it may not be a great one) but I’m thinking maybe the search 
interface could allow ordering by last update too, then you can search for 
nothing and get the most recently updated things across the entire site, but it 
would also let you search for say “Django” and get the most recently updated 
things that have to do with Django.


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Re: [Distutils] ANNOUNCE: Sunsetting of uploading to the legacy PyPI/TestPyPI

2017-06-22 Thread Lele Gaifax 
Donald Stufft  writes:

> As most people are aware, there has been an effort under way to rewrite PyPI 
> in
> order to solve a lot of long standing problems. For those who aren't aware, 
> that
> is currently available at https://pypi.org/ and it uses the same database that
> "Legacy" PyPI does, so the two are essentially just different views over the
> same data.

Great, thank you all for the effort!

As I'm used to keep an eye from time to time on https://pypi.python.org/pypi,
just to spot relevant upgrades, or see something new that catches my
attention, I wonder if the new interface offers a similar view, or some kind
of RSS feed, with more than the five "New Releases" box.

Should I change my habits?

Thanks again,
ciao, lele.
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real: Emanuele Gaifas | comincerò ad aver paura di chi mi copia.
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