[drakelist] TR-4/L4B transmit AGC problem
Ron Skipper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang -- Hello all, Ron W8ACR here, I'm new to the list. I'm running a TR-4 with an L4B amp and I'm having a problem with the transmit AGC action. Basic tuneup is no problem. However, when I try to adjust the AGC action by using a single tone as suggested by the manual, I find that I cannot attain normal levels of plate current in the amp. That is, I seem to have "too much" AGC. Rotation of the AGC control knob on the front panel of the L4B has no effect one way or the other. If I unplug the AGC cable, I am able to get normal levels of plate current. I have checked the pertinent components in the L4B and they all seem to be OK. What values of voltage should I be measuring at the AGC cable jack? What other things should I check? Is this problem likely to be in the TR-4? I'd appreciate any help. Thanks, Ron W8ACR -- On Behalf of Ron Skipper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: http://www.zerobeat.net Brought to you courtesy of TLCHost.net http://www.tlchost.net/ --
[drakelist] R-4B and T-4XB cable question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterence to the drakelist gang -- I have a R-4B and T-4XB and it came with a set of what looks like original interconnecting cables. They are all look like gray microphone connector cable with RCA jacks and with tags on them that look as if they were from the mfgr. I have read the INJ cable needs to be an RG-62. I was a bit confused by the set. I found this note: http://www.mail-archive.com/drakelist@www.zerobeat.net/msg02354.html This note appears to say you don't need the RG-62 if the sets are aligned with the other cable. Am I better off getting the RG-62 cable? Thanks Alan KB7MBI -- On Behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: http://www.zerobeat.net Brought to you courtesy of TLCHost.net http://www.tlchost.net/ --
Re: [drakelist] Drake cables
Hi Garey, Many, many thanks for the invaluable information on Drake cables. This type information is often almost impossible to find. 73, Bob KC8YY
Re: [drakelist] R-4B and T-4XB cable question
Garey Barrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang -- Alan - Look at the INJ cable and see if it has white insulation in the connectors. The originals also had a tag on ONLY the INJ cable, and did NOT use RG-62. RG-62 will work, but is heavy, stiff and larger than the correct cable. If you have a capacitance meter of some sort available, you can check the capacitance of the cables and compare them with the values in the note you referenced. If you align the pair (actually only the INJ trimmer adjustments) with the cables connecting them together you will find only slightly less drive available to the transmitter when running transceive with receiver PTO control if you use standard audio patch cable for the INJ line. 73, Garey - K4OAH Atlanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterence to the drakelist gang -- I have a R-4B and T-4XB and it came with a set of what looks like original interconnecting cables. They are all look like gray microphone connector cable with RCA jacks and with tags on them that look as if they were from the mfgr. I have read the INJ cable needs to be an RG-62. I was a bit confused by the set. I found this note: http://www.mail-archive.com/drakelist@www.zerobeat.net/msg02354.html This note appears to say you don't need the RG-62 if the sets are aligned with the other cable. Am I better off getting the RG-62 cable? Thanks Alan KB7MBI -- On Behalf of Garey Barrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: http://www.zerobeat.net Brought to you courtesy of TLCHost.net http://www.tlchost.net/ --
[drakelist] drake AC-4R replacement pcb kits
mike bryce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang -- Boys and girls... Snow's gone (for now) and it's almost spring like out. Washed and wax my jeep, can't wait to take the top off again, so feeling good... that being said.. anyone wishing to get a drake AC-4R replacement pcb kit: until Jan 7 2005 Kits are $10 off of current price of $65 more into? Sure. Point your browser to: http://www.theheathkitshop.com/drakeac4rreplace.html Remember, this is only good till Jan 7, 2005 Have a great new year!! Mike Bryce WB8VGE SunLight Energy Systems http://www.seslogic.com http://www.theheathkitshop.com "Electricity at the speed of light" -- On Behalf of mike bryce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: http://www.zerobeat.net Brought to you courtesy of TLCHost.net http://www.tlchost.net/ --
[drakelist] AM Filter Advice for TR-7
"Jim DiMauro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang -- Hi All: I have a TR-7 that I'd like to use on AM every so often. The trouble is that the radio doesn't have an AM filter. A previous owner had installed the resistor mod that's supposed to act like an AM filter, but the result is far too wide to be useful. For example, if I'm listening to a QSO on 7290, I can hear CHU on 7335. Now that's wide! I'm looking for recommendations on AM filters, specifically which ones perform well. Should I look for an original Network Sciences SL-6000 that Drake supplied, or are the better options out there like Sherwood and Kiwa? All input will be appreciated. Thanx & 73, Jim WA2MER -- On Behalf of "Jim DiMauro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: http://www.zerobeat.net Brought to you courtesy of TLCHost.net http://www.tlchost.net/ --
Re: [drakelist] AM Filter Advice for TR-7
Garey Barrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang -- Jim - Something else is going on if you are hearing a signal that is 45 kHz away! There is a 4-pole crystal "roofing" filter in the first IF (48 MHz) that is 8 kHz wide, which sets the maximum bandwidth of the receiver. This is what sets the receiver b/w when the R-C network filter is installed. While this is not a 1.8:1 shape factor, 100 dB ultimate rejection filter, it certainly is going to be a long way down at 45 kHz from it's center frequency if everything is working normally. Unless you are living next to CHU and listening to a QRP signal from Tibet, something else is wrong! You don't have the calibrator switched on do you? Or the RV-7/75 external PTO? Is the card cage shield in place with ALL screws? DO you live under the CHU tower? :-) 73, Garey - K4OAH Atlanta Jim DiMauro wrote: "Jim DiMauro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang -- Hi All: I have a TR-7 that I'd like to use on AM every so often. The trouble is that the radio doesn't have an AM filter. A previous owner had installed the resistor mod that's supposed to act like an AM filter, but the result is far too wide to be useful. For example, if I'm listening to a QSO on 7290, I can hear CHU on 7335. Now that's wide! I'm looking for recommendations on AM filters, specifically which ones perform well. Should I look for an original Network Sciences SL-6000 that Drake supplied, or are the better options out there like Sherwood and Kiwa? All input will be appreciated. Thanx & 73, Jim WA2MER -- On Behalf of Garey Barrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: http://www.zerobeat.net Brought to you courtesy of TLCHost.net http://www.tlchost.net/ --
RE: [drakelist] AM Filter Advice for TR-7
"Jim DiMauro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang -- Hi Garey: Thanx for your thoughts. I hadn't looked into the circuit, or else I would have found the 8 kHz filter. Regarding CHU, it's very, very weak, but I shouldn't be hearing it at all. You may have hit on the problem: the card cage shield. It's not very tight. All of the screws are there, but more than a few are stripped. I guess it's time to tighten things up and see what happens. BTW, for future reference, what are your thoughts on filters? 73, Jim WA2MER -Original Message- From: Garey Barrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 4:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Drakelist Subject: Re: [drakelist] AM Filter Advice for TR-7 Jim - Something else is going on if you are hearing a signal that is 45 kHz away! There is a 4-pole crystal "roofing" filter in the first IF (48 MHz) that is 8 kHz wide, which sets the maximum bandwidth of the receiver. This is what sets the receiver b/w when the R-C network filter is installed. While this is not a 1.8:1 shape factor, 100 dB ultimate rejection filter, it certainly is going to be a long way down at 45 kHz from it's center frequency if everything is working normally. Unless you are living next to CHU and listening to a QRP signal from Tibet, something else is wrong! You don't have the calibrator switched on do you? Or the RV-7/75 external PTO? Is the card cage shield in place with ALL screws? DO you live under the CHU tower? :-) 73, Garey - K4OAH Atlanta Jim DiMauro wrote: >"Jim DiMauro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang >-- >Hi All: > >I have a TR-7 that I'd like to use on AM every so often. The trouble is >that the radio doesn't have an AM filter. A previous owner had installed >the resistor mod that's supposed to act like an AM filter, but the result is >far too wide to be useful. For example, if I'm listening to a QSO on 7290, >I can hear CHU on 7335. Now that's wide! > >I'm looking for recommendations on AM filters, specifically which ones >perform well. Should I look for an original Network Sciences SL-6000 that >Drake supplied, or are the better options out there like Sherwood and Kiwa? >All input will be appreciated. > >Thanx & 73, >Jim >WA2MER > > -- On Behalf of "Jim DiMauro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: http://www.zerobeat.net Brought to you courtesy of TLCHost.net http://www.tlchost.net/ --
[drakelist] Signal 45KHz away
"Mike,W8KRR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang -- This sounds like a spurious response from the synth - are all the shields and grounds good? As far as filters, it's hard to beat International Radio (Inrad). Mike -- On Behalf of "Mike,W8KRR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: http://www.zerobeat.net Brought to you courtesy of TLCHost.net http://www.tlchost.net/ --
Re: [drakelist] AM Filter Advice for TR-7
"Jim Shorney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang -- On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 16:16:54 -0500, Garey Barrell wrote: >Something else is going on if you are hearing a signal that is 45 kHz away! > >Unless you are living next to CHU and listening to a QRP signal from >Tibet, something else is wrong! You don't have the calibrator switched >on do you? Or the RV-7/75 external PTO? Is the card cage shield in >place with ALL screws? DO you live under the CHU tower? :-) Maybe bad filter capacitors on the DC-DC converter board? I could QSO on three different frequencies at once when my TR7 had this disease. Potentially handy, but it didn't do much for RX performance in a crowded band. Check to see if you can recieve a strong signal about 23 KHz above and/or below the true frequency. -- Jim Shorney -->.<--Put complaints in this box jshorney (at) inebraska.com nu0c (at) amsat.org Ham Radio NU0C Lincoln, NE, USA EN10ps http://incolor.inetnebr.com/jshorney/ -- On Behalf of "Jim Shorney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: http://www.zerobeat.net Brought to you courtesy of TLCHost.net http://www.tlchost.net/ --
Re: [drakelist] drake AC-4R replacement pcb kits
"Michael M. Felack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang -- I got one of Mike's kits and they are superb!!! If you have an AC-4, sooner or later you'll want to have one of these to rebuild it. I'd get one at that price and put it away for that day. You won't be disappointed. Happy New Year and 73s, Mike WA3WOM - Original Message - From: "mike bryce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 3:16 PM Subject: [drakelist] drake AC-4R replacement pcb kits mike bryce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang -- Boys and girls... Snow's gone (for now) and it's almost spring like out. Washed and wax my jeep, can't wait to take the top off again, so feeling good... that being said.. anyone wishing to get a drake AC-4R replacement pcb kit: until Jan 7 2005 Kits are $10 off of current price of $65 more into? Sure. Point your browser to: http://www.theheathkitshop.com/drakeac4rreplace.html Remember, this is only good till Jan 7, 2005 Have a great new year!! Mike Bryce WB8VGE SunLight Energy Systems http://www.seslogic.com http://www.theheathkitshop.com "Electricity at the speed of light" -- On Behalf of mike bryce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: http://www.zerobeat.net Brought to you courtesy of TLCHost.net http://www.tlchost.net/ -- -- On Behalf of "Michael M. Felack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: http://www.zerobeat.net Brought to you courtesy of TLCHost.net http://www.tlchost.net/ --
Re: [drakelist] R-4B and T-4XB cable question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterence to the drakelist gang -- Hi all, First of all I wish all of you a very good New Year 2005! I started 2005 by completing my R4C receiver with a T4XC, that was standing lonely in the attic of PE9PE, one of the locals here. I was playing with the C-line twins today and all the memory's of my early years as a ham (licensed in 1976) came back alive when I adjusted plate, loading and all again. What I kept wondered about though was the difference in signal level between the PTO of the TX compared to the RX. But now I know! I have used an audio cable for the INJ! Thanks to the message below that problem was easely fixed hi!! See you on the air, with either the "new" C-line or my TR7/R7A/L75! Dick/PA2DW > > Garey Barrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist > gang > -- > Alan - > > Look at the INJ cable and see if it has white insulation in the > connectors. The originals also had a tag on ONLY the INJ cable, and did > NOT use RG-62. > > RG-62 will work, but is heavy, stiff and larger than the correct cable. > > If you have a capacitance meter of some sort available, you can check > the capacitance of the cables and compare them with the values in the > note you referenced. > > If you align the pair (actually only the INJ trimmer adjustments) with > the cables connecting them together you will find only slightly less > drive available to the transmitter when running transceive with receiver > PTO control if you use standard audio patch cable for the INJ line. > > 73, Garey - K4OAH > Atlanta > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterence to the drakelist gang >>-- >>I have a R-4B and T-4XB and it came with a set of what looks like >> original >>interconnecting cables. They are all look like gray microphone connector >> cable >>with RCA jacks and with tags on them that look as if they were from the >>mfgr. I have read the INJ cable needs to be an RG-62. I was a bit >> confused by the >>set. >> >>I found this note: >>http://www.mail-archive.com/drakelist@www.zerobeat.net/msg02354.html >> >>This note appears to say you don't need the RG-62 if the sets are >> aligned >>with the other cable. Am I better off getting the RG-62 cable? >> >>Thanks >> >>Alan KB7MBI >> >> >> > -- > On Behalf of Garey Barrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net > Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in > body > Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message > Zerobeat Web Page: http://www.zerobeat.net > Brought to you courtesy of TLCHost.net http://www.tlchost.net/ > -- > -- On Behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: http://www.zerobeat.net Brought to you courtesy of TLCHost.net http://www.tlchost.net/ --
RE: [drakelist] AM Filter Advice for TR-7
"Jim DiMauro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang -- Many thanx to all who responded. I'm going to start by checking the shields tomorrow morning. I'll let the group know what I find. Also, thanx for the input on filter sources. If I'm going to spend nearly $100 for a filter, it's going to be a new one. Since there's no clear winner out there among filter suppliers, I'll liok at Inrad and Sherwood, who both offer filters for the TR-7. But first, the shields & grounds... 73, Jim WA2MER -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Shorney Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 5:55 PM To: Drakelist; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [drakelist] AM Filter Advice for TR-7 "Jim Shorney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang -- On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 16:16:54 -0500, Garey Barrell wrote: >Something else is going on if you are hearing a signal that is 45 kHz away! > >Unless you are living next to CHU and listening to a QRP signal from >Tibet, something else is wrong! You don't have the calibrator switched >on do you? Or the RV-7/75 external PTO? Is the card cage shield in >place with ALL screws? DO you live under the CHU tower? :-) Maybe bad filter capacitors on the DC-DC converter board? I could QSO on three different frequencies at once when my TR7 had this disease. Potentially handy, but it didn't do much for RX performance in a crowded band. Check to see if you can recieve a strong signal about 23 KHz above and/or below the true frequency. -- Jim Shorney -->.<--Put complaints in this box jshorney (at) inebraska.com nu0c (at) amsat.org Ham Radio NU0C Lincoln, NE, USA EN10ps http://incolor.inetnebr.com/jshorney/ -- On Behalf of "Jim Shorney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: http://www.zerobeat.net Brought to you courtesy of TLCHost.net http://www.tlchost.net/ -- -- On Behalf of "Jim DiMauro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: http://www.zerobeat.net Brought to you courtesy of TLCHost.net http://www.tlchost.net/ --
Re: [drakelist] AM Filter Advice for TR-7
"VE3AX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang -- Jim: Garey has given you very good advice. While you are in there, I'd check the PIN diodes as well. There are two on the front HPF board that look like two lead transistors. You can check them with an ohmmeter. The three on the rear HPF board are high power PIN diodes and are a little more difficult to get at to check but you can get a good idea if there is a problem with them by checking the two DC pins near the top of the board. One gives essentially zero volts on rx and the other is +12VDC on rx; on tx they switch. You should not see any more than 0.3 volts or so on the "low" reading. If you get, say, +12 on tx and +4 on rx there is a problem. Of course the other "symptom" of bad PIN diodes is low power output on 15 and 10 meters. My 1st TR7 had weak AM broadcast spurs all across the bands right up through 28 Mhz with one bad PIN diode. I have two TR-7's with the 390 ohm resistor in the AM filter position and it works just fine. I don't see a lot of difference between those two and the two with the AM filters. 73 Peter VE3AX - Original Message - From: "Jim DiMauro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Drakelist" Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 11:17 PM Subject: RE: [drakelist] AM Filter Advice for TR-7 > > "Jim DiMauro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang > -- > Many thanx to all who responded. I'm going to start by checking the shields > tomorrow morning. I'll let the group know what I find. Also, thanx for the > input on filter sources. If I'm going to spend nearly $100 for a filter, > it's going to be a new one. Since there's no clear winner out there among > filter suppliers, I'll liok at Inrad and Sherwood, who both offer filters > for the TR-7. But first, the shields & grounds... > > 73, > Jim > WA2MER > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Shorney > Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 5:55 PM > To: Drakelist; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [drakelist] AM Filter Advice for TR-7 > > > > "Jim Shorney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist > gang > -- > On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 16:16:54 -0500, Garey Barrell wrote: > > >Something else is going on if you are hearing a signal that is 45 kHz away! > > > >Unless you are living next to CHU and listening to a QRP signal from > >Tibet, something else is wrong! You don't have the calibrator switched > >on do you? Or the RV-7/75 external PTO? Is the card cage shield in > >place with ALL screws? DO you live under the CHU tower? :-) > > Maybe bad filter capacitors on the DC-DC converter board? I could QSO > on three different frequencies at once when my TR7 had this disease. > Potentially handy, but it didn't do much for RX performance in a > crowded band. Check to see if you can recieve a strong signal about 23 > KHz above and/or below the true frequency. > > > > -- > Jim Shorney -->.<--Put complaints in this box > jshorney (at) inebraska.com > nu0c (at) amsat.org > Ham Radio NU0C > Lincoln, NE, USA > EN10ps > http://incolor.inetnebr.com/jshorney/ > > -- > On Behalf of "Jim Shorney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net > Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in > body > Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message > Zerobeat Web Page: http://www.zerobeat.net > Brought to you courtesy of TLCHost.net http://www.tlchost.net/ > -- > > -- > On Behalf of "Jim DiMauro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net > Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body > Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message > Zerobeat Web Page: http://www.zerobeat.net > Brought to you courtesy of TLCHost.net http://www.tlchost.net/ > -- -- On Behalf of "VE3AX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: http://www.zerobeat.net Brought to you courtesy of TLCHost.net http://www.tlchost.net/ --
