Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Dec 2009 QST p 50 - SSB vs. AM

2009-12-20 Thread Nate Duehr

On Dec 19, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Gary Pearce KN4AQ wrote:

 In doing a little research, I learned that SSB was originally created for 
 long distance telephone use, for things like the Atlantic cable as Adam 
 notes, in the early 1930's. It first appeared in Amateur Radio experimentally 
 in 1947. QST began running regular articles about it in '49.

Hams were about 17 years behind the times back then, and continue that 
tradition, eh Gary? ;-)

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Nate Duehr, WY0X
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[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Homebrew DV Node Adapter to ID-RP2C interface

2009-12-20 Thread michaelcarey69
Not at the moment. I'm working on getting a schematic together, I'm sure you 
don't want me to send out my scribbles at the moment!
It's not at all hard to build, there is two IC's, a 3.3V regulator, a couple of 
capacitors, a resistor pack, couple of IC sockets and the 28 pin header and 
socket assembly which is probably the hardest thing to put together and also 
has what might be the hardest component to obtain.
Of course, there is nothing stopping this from being hard wired directly to a 
DV Node Adapter board without the header/socket assembly. The PTT and Transmit 
Data pins from the PIC need to be isolated, either by bending the pins out of 
the way (shudder) or cutting the tracks on the PCB. Everything else can remain 
intact.

The guys behind the DV Node Adapter clone PCB's have expressed interest in both 
making a plug in daughter board plus adding the extra components to a new 
version of the various Hot Spot boards they produce.

Michael.
VK5ZEA


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 Great deal!  How much do you have in this?  Any plans to manufacture?
 
 
 
 
 
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 To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sat, December 19, 2009 6:25:13 AM
 Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Homebrew DV Node Adapter to ID-RP2C interface
 
 Hi Everybody,
 I've just uploaded a short video to YouTube showing my quick and easy 
 hardware interface that allows a DV Node Adapter GMSK chip to be directly 
 connected an Icom ID-RP2C.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MALY_mEDp_8
 I'm quite surprised how well it actually works!
 Michael.
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Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Dec 2009 QST p 50 - SSB vs. AM

2009-12-20 Thread Gary Pearce KN4AQ

At 05:45 AM 12/20/2009, Nate Duehr wrote:


On Dec 19, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Gary Pearce KN4AQ wrote:

 In doing a little research, I learned that SSB was originally created 
for long distance telephone use, for things like the Atlantic cable as 
Adam notes, in the early 1930's. It first appeared in Amateur Radio 
experimentally in 1947. QST began running regular articles about it in '49.


Hams were about 17 years behind the times back then, and continue that 
tradition, eh Gary? ;-)


Nate Duehr, WY0X
mailto:nate%40natetech.comn...@natetech.com


Hmmm, a complex question. While P25 is more than a decade old, my little 
town is still using an analog trunked system for public safety. (On the 
other hand, they built one of the first trunked systems in the 
area,  before P25 was available.) There's still plenty of analog 
commercial/public-safety two-way out there. So hams may be late to the 
digital party, but we're not the last to arrive.


As for Sideband, maybe someone else has a better handle on the history, but 
as I understand it, hams were among the first to apply what was a wire-line 
telephone technology to radio. And it wasn't until 1957 that General Curtis 
LeMay K0GRL/W6EZV applied his ham radio experience to the Air Force radio 
systems, converting them from AM to SSB.


Kind of hard to compete with the mega-millions research labs, but now and 
then we score a hit. We'll probably discover something about digital voice 
that nobody else thought of first.


73,
Gary KN4AQ



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[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Dec 2009 QST p 50 - SSB vs. AM

2009-12-20 Thread kb9mwr
Well my county isn't even trunked.  My city is analog trunked.  My county still 
uses 2 GHz analog links between VHF receive sites.

Yes the dynamic of American business has a large impact on how we as hams are 
lagging or leading the way.

Garry is right, now it's mega-million research labs behind consumer/ commercial 
technology instead of smaller business research of 20 or more years ago.  The 
technology has also become much more complex and integrated, making it harder 
for the average ham to work with.  (I'll refrain from the drivel about how a 
shift on quantity of hams instead of building quality is also part of this.)

However on a good note, we are headed inch-by-inch to more of a software 
defined radio platform.  So I was very pleased to see the recent ham radio 
articles in the recent issue of Linux Journal.  

While America might not have many electronic repair techs as compared to from 
the 1960-1980's, as most electronics is produced overseas and we are much of a 
throw-away society.. I think we still have some American programmers... it's 
time to welcome or entice them to the hobby.

I have to admit I was drawn to D-Star because of the homebrew projects 
developing. I'm not a big talker, more of a tinkerer.

I still feel some sort of marriage between D-Star and Asterisk/SIP could be a 
potential big discovery.  Even the MotoTRBO stuff doesn't yet have hooks for 
business to interconnect their VOIP phone systems to their radio systems.  

Or how about twitter style short text message feeds to groups radios to remind 
club members of meetings etc.

Really there is still a lot of even small ideas that can be implemented.


--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Gary Pearce KN4AQ kn...@... wrote:

 At 05:45 AM 12/20/2009, Nate Duehr wrote:
 
 On Dec 19, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Gary Pearce KN4AQ wrote:
 
   In doing a little research, I learned that SSB was originally created 
  for long distance telephone use, for things like the Atlantic cable as 
  Adam notes, in the early 1930's. It first appeared in Amateur Radio 
  experimentally in 1947. QST began running regular articles about it in '49.
 
 Hams were about 17 years behind the times back then, and continue that 
 tradition, eh Gary? ;-)
 
 Nate Duehr, WY0X
 mailto:nate%40natetech.comn...@...
 
 Hmmm, a complex question. While P25 is more than a decade old, my little 
 town is still using an analog trunked system for public safety. (On the 
 other hand, they built one of the first trunked systems in the 
 area,  before P25 was available.) There's still plenty of analog 
 commercial/public-safety two-way out there. So hams may be late to the 
 digital party, but we're not the last to arrive.
 
 As for Sideband, maybe someone else has a better handle on the history, but 
 as I understand it, hams were among the first to apply what was a wire-line 
 telephone technology to radio. And it wasn't until 1957 that General Curtis 
 LeMay K0GRL/W6EZV applied his ham radio experience to the Air Force radio 
 systems, converting them from AM to SSB.
 
 Kind of hard to compete with the mega-millions research labs, but now and 
 then we score a hit. We'll probably discover something about digital voice 
 that nobody else thought of first.
 
 73,
 Gary KN4AQ
 
 
 
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 Gary Pearce KN4AQ
 508 Spencer Crest Ct.
 Cary, NC 27513
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 919-380-9944
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