[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DPRS issue
Thank you! Tom KC9ONY --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, john_ke5c k...@... wrote: http://wa8lmf.net/miscinfo/APRS_Symbol_Chart.pdf Note - two characters, '/' for primary symbol table followed by one character, or '\' for alternate symbol table followed by one character. E.g., '/-' for home (vhf) or '\-' for home (hf). 73--John --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, kc9ony kc9ony@ wrote: Is there a list somewhere that tells what the OTHER symbols are?
[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DPRS issue
Is there a list somewhere that tells what the OTHER symbols are? Thanks, Tom KC9ONY --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Brian Mury ve7...@... wrote: On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 14:49 -0400, Steve Lewis wrote: This was the most helpful reply received. Starting digging into GPS-A...figured out that if I have my symbol in the radio set to Other -- Other becomes nothing and you miss a character. So, set your symbol to anything OTHER than Other and it will be fine. I can hear me now. :-) Other works, but you need to change the -- to the two character representation for whatever symbol you wish to use. After scrolling down to Other, push the dial, and you can edit the text. I have mine set to /-, which is a house symbol.
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DPRS issue
On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 14:49 -0400, Steve Lewis wrote: This was the most helpful reply received. Starting digging into GPS-A...figured out that if I have my symbol in the radio set to Other -- Other becomes nothing and you miss a character. So, set your symbol to anything OTHER than Other and it will be fine. I can hear me now. :-) Other works, but you need to change the -- to the two character representation for whatever symbol you wish to use. After scrolling down to Other, push the dial, and you can edit the text. I have mine set to /-, which is a house symbol.
[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DPRS issue
The issue is the symbol (or actually the lack of a symbol). The APRS packet format !3912.21N08421.72W/ should actually be !3912.21N/08421.72Ws where 's' is a character denoting the symbol used for your station. The symbol is a setable value in the 2820, consists of 2 characters, usually '/' (between the latitude and longitude) and another character denoting what symbol to use. If you manually set this up (I am not fully familiar with the 2820 programming) to something other than one of the 2820's predefined symbols, I am guessing that you tried to use a space or something else that is not allowed and the 2820 choked on it. Try using one of the predefined symbols in the 2820 and that should take care of it. 73, Pete AE5PL --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Steve Lewis n8...@... wrote: Although I won't do it on a permanent basis, I want to be able to broadcast my location via DPRS. I set the radio for GPS-A, set the unproto for API282,DSTAR* . My packets are sorta getting out there, but aprs.fi says this: 2010-05-23 04:02:09 UTC: N8TFDAPI282,DSTAR*,qAR,K8BIG-B:!3912.21N08421.73W/ [Unsupported packet format] Any thoughts? -73-
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DPRS issue
First don't use GPS-A. Other DSTAR radios won't be able to see you location. Then turn on RMC and GCA ONLY in the dv settings Make sure GPS TX mode is set to GPS, the GPS Auto TX Timer is set to off and the DV DATA TX is set to PTT Go to http://www.aprs-is.net/DPRSCalc.aspx, fill in the blanks and copy the Input into TX Message C1: into your gps message in your radio. It should work! You can go to http://aprs.fi/ to see if you are being seen. Fran Signature -- Fran, W1FJM http://www.miele-family.com/weather http://www.miele-family.com/weather On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 10:08 AM, ae5pl p...@ae5pl.net wrote: The issue is the symbol (or actually the lack of a symbol). The APRS packet format !3912.21N08421.72W/ should actually be !3912.21N/08421.72Ws where 's' is a character denoting the symbol used for your station. The symbol is a setable value in the 2820, consists of 2 characters, usually '/' (between the latitude and longitude) and another character denoting what symbol to use. If you manually set this up (I am not fully familiar with the 2820 programming) to something other than one of the 2820's predefined symbols, I am guessing that you tried to use a space or something else that is not allowed and the 2820 choked on it. Try using one of the predefined symbols in the 2820 and that should take care of it. 73, Pete AE5PL --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com dstar_digital%40yahoogroups.com, Steve Lewis n8...@... wrote: Although I won't do it on a permanent basis, I want to be able to broadcast my location via DPRS. I set the radio for GPS-A, set the unproto for API282,DSTAR* . My packets are sorta getting out there, but aprs.fi says this: 2010-05-23 04:02:09 UTC: N8TFDAPI282,DSTAR*,qAR,K8BIG-B:!3912.21N08421.73W/ [Unsupported packet format] Any thoughts? -73-
RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DPRS issue
What do RMC and GCA mean? Do I need to register somewhere for my DSTAR position reports to show up on findu.fi? I have already registered as a user on the NJ2DG system and can access W2DGL. Thanks 73, Gordon Beattie, W2TTT 201.314.6964 _ From: Francis Miele [mailto:f...@miele-family.com] Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 2:23 PM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DPRS issue First don't use GPS-A. Other DSTAR radios won't be able to see you location. Then turn on RMC and GCA ONLY in the dv settings Make sure GPS TX mode is set to GPS, the GPS Auto TX Timer is set to off and the DV DATA TX is set to PTT Go to http://www.aprs- http://www.aprs-is.net/DPRSCalc.aspx is.net/DPRSCalc.aspx, fill in the blanks and copy the Input into TX Message C1: into your gps message in your radio. It should work! You can go to http://aprs. http://aprs.fi/ fi/ to see if you are being seen. -- Fran, W1FJM http://www.miele-family.com/weather http://www.miele-family.com/weather On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 10:08 AM, ae5pl p...@ae5pl.net wrote: The issue is the symbol (or actually the lack of a symbol). The APRS packet format !3912.21N08421.72W/ should actually be !3912.21N/08421.72Ws where 's' is a character denoting the symbol used for your station. The symbol is a setable value in the 2820, consists of 2 characters, usually '/' (between the latitude and longitude) and another character denoting what symbol to use. If you manually set this up (I am not fully familiar with the 2820 programming) to something other than one of the 2820's predefined symbols, I am guessing that you tried to use a space or something else that is not allowed and the 2820 choked on it. Try using one of the predefined symbols in the 2820 and that should take care of it. 73, Pete AE5PL --- In dstar_digital@ mailto:dstar_digital%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, Steve Lewis n8...@... wrote: Although I won't do it on a permanent basis, I want to be able to broadcast my location via DPRS. I set the radio for GPS-A, set the unproto for API282,DSTAR* . My packets are sorta getting out there, but aprs.fi says this: 2010-05-23 04:02:09 UTC: N8TFDAPI282,DSTAR*,qAR,K8BIG-B:!3912.21N08421.73W/ [Unsupported packet format] Any thoughts? -73- __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5138 (20100522) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5138 (20100522) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DPRS issue
they are parameters in the GPS sentence that need to be on. You do not need to register anything extra for DPRS on aprs.fi Fran, W1FJM On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 11:28 AM, J.Gordon Beattie, Jr., W2TTT w2...@arrl.net wrote: What do RMC and GCA mean? Do I need to register somewhere for my DSTAR position reports to show up on findu.fi? I have already registered as a user on the NJ2DG system and can access W2DGL. *Thanks 73,* *Gordon Beattie, W2TTT* *201.314.6964*** -- *From:* Francis Miele [mailto:f...@miele-family.com] *Sent:* Sunday, May 23, 2010 2:23 PM *To:* dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DPRS issue First don't use GPS-A. Other DSTAR radios won't be able to see you location. Then turn on RMC and GCA ONLY in the dv settings Make sure GPS TX mode is set to GPS, the GPS Auto TX Timer is set to off and the DV DATA TX is set to PTT Go to http://www.aprs-is.net/DPRSCalc.aspx, fill in the blanks and copy the Input into TX Message C1: into your gps message in your radio. It should work! You can go to http://aprs.fi/ to see if you are being seen. -- Fran, W1FJM http://www.miele-family.com/weatherhttp://www.miele-family.com/weather On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 10:08 AM, ae5pl p...@ae5pl.net wrote: The issue is the symbol (or actually the lack of a symbol). The APRS packet format !3912.21N08421.72W/ should actually be !3912.21N/08421.72Ws where 's' is a character denoting the symbol used for your station. The symbol is a setable value in the 2820, consists of 2 characters, usually '/' (between the latitude and longitude) and another character denoting what symbol to use. If you manually set this up (I am not fully familiar with the 2820 programming) to something other than one of the 2820's predefined symbols, I am guessing that you tried to use a space or something else that is not allowed and the 2820 choked on it. Try using one of the predefined symbols in the 2820 and that should take care of it. 73, Pete AE5PL --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com dstar_digital%40yahoogroups.com, Steve Lewis n8...@... wrote: Although I won't do it on a permanent basis, I want to be able to broadcast my location via DPRS. I set the radio for GPS-A, set the unproto for API282,DSTAR* . My packets are sorta getting out there, but aprs.fi says this: 2010-05-23 04:02:09 UTC: N8TFDAPI282,DSTAR*,qAR,K8BIG-B:!3912.21N08421.73W/ [Unsupported packet format] Any thoughts? -73- __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5138 (20100522) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5138 (20100522) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DPRS issue
Go to http://www.aprs-is.net/dprs.aspx for information on the D-PRS translation and how to configure your radio. As far as GPS-A vs. GPS modes, the D-STAR radios are not designed as interactive tracking radios. Some radios will show a transmitting station's position information if the transmitting station is in GPS mode. However, there is no memory and little error control. GPS-A mode is not displayed on remote D-STAR radio displays but is much more reliable due to the use of a CRC to error check the received data and due to the transmission of a single line instead of a group of lines. This is very important considering that the portion of the DV bit stream that is used for the GPS information has no error protection and is very susceptible to bit errors (the bit stream is a 4800 bps transmission). If your intent is to be seen in the APRS world via D-PRS, then GPS-A mode is the more reliable. If your intent is to have some other D-STAR users see your position on their display while you transmit, the GPS mode is the way to go. GPS mode if properly configured (see link above) will get you into APRS as well; just not as reliably. Use what fits your intended goals. Hope this helps. 73, Pete AE5PL --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, J.Gordon Beattie, Jr., W2TTT w2...@... wrote: What do RMC and GCA mean? These are GPS strings that the radios use to send over the air. The selection is done via menu (or software) in the radio. Do I need to register somewhere for my DSTAR position reports to show up on findu.fi? No, just follow the instructions at http://www.aprs-is.net/dprs.aspx I have already registered as a user on the NJ2DG system and can access W2DGL. Thanks 73, Gordon Beattie, W2TTT
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DPRS issue
This was the most helpful reply received. Starting digging into GPS-A...figured out that if I have my symbol in the radio set to Other -- Other becomes nothing and you miss a character. So, set your symbol to anything OTHER than Other and it will be fine. I can hear me now. :-) -73- On 5/23/2010 10:08 AM, ae5pl wrote: The issue is the symbol (or actually the lack of a symbol). The APRS packet format !3912.21N08421.72W/ should actually be !3912.21N/08421.72Ws where 's' is a character denoting the symbol used for your station. The symbol is a setable value in the 2820, consists of 2 characters, usually '/' (between the latitude and longitude) and another character denoting what symbol to use. If you manually set this up (I am not fully familiar with the 2820 programming) to something other than one of the 2820's predefined symbols, I am guessing that you tried to use a space or something else that is not allowed and the 2820 choked on it. Try using one of the predefined symbols in the 2820 and that should take care of it. 73, Pete AE5PL --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com mailto:dstar_digital%40yahoogroups.com, Steve Lewis n8...@... wrote: Although I won't do it on a permanent basis, I want to be able to broadcast my location via DPRS. I set the radio for GPS-A, set the unproto for API282,DSTAR* . My packets are sorta getting out there, but aprs.fi says this: 2010-05-23 04:02:09 UTC: N8TFDAPI282,DSTAR*,qAR,K8BIG-B:!3912.21N08421.73W/ [Unsupported packet format] Any thoughts? -73- Please TRIM your replies or set your email program not to include the original message in reply unless needed for clarity. ThanksYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dstar_digital/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: dstar_digital-dig...@yahoogroups.com dstar_digital-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dstar_digital-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DPRS issue
On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 15:28 +, J.Gordon Beattie, Jr., W2TTT wrote: What do RMC and GCA mean? Do I need to register somewhere for my DSTAR position reports to show up on findu.fi? I have already registered as a user on the NJ2DG system and can access W2DGL. Have a look here; http://vk4tux.no-ip.org/ scroll down to; 2820 GPS Setup For step by step detailed procedure. vk4tux
[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DPRS
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Radioman \Tony\ n...@... wrote: i was wondering now that i have the GPS mic on the 92AD where can i see this data on a map... does it show up on UI-View? via APRS? Check out http://www.aprs-is.net/dprs.aspx for information on how to configure your radio to show up on APRS. D-STAR DV (D-PRS) and AX.25 (APRS on RF) are two completely different protocols so transmitting D-STAR on 144.39 will not get you seen on APRS. You must either use a D-STAR repeater or a frequency that has a D-STAR D-PRS IGate listening. 73, Pete AE5PL
[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Dprs question
I sure encourage you to set GPS AUTO TX to OFF so the radio only sends GPS data when you talk. This is especially true with your transmissions going to a reflector. Not many folks want to be shot gunned with a non voice PTT every so many minutes. (Once the new wears off). Thanks and vy 73, steve nu5d --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Adam Karsin akar...@... wrote: Ok, so here is where I am at..
RE: [dstar_digital] Re: DPRS
Yes, I copied and pasted the output from DPRS Calculator. I have dChat running on another computer/radio. This is the output: 10:56:59 PM: $GXRMC,035659.89,A,31878,N,0970=.2717,W,00.0, 00.0L300608,06.E*71 10:56:59 PM: KD5DZU M,LK *5A 11:01:59 PM: $KPGGA,040159.88,3?37.9868,N,09709.2728,W,9,08,0.9,5,M*3E _ From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Bosshard Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 10:13 PM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: [dstar_digital] Re: DPRS http://www.aprs- http://www.aprs-is.net/DPRS.aspx is.net/DPRS.aspx Be sure you have the correct sentence in TX MSG C1...Steve --- In dstar_digital@ mailto:dstar_digital%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, Gus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all. I am having an interesting problem that I have not been able to figure out and would like to see if someone could point me in the direction for troubleshooting. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[dstar_digital] Re: DPRS
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Gus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I copied and pasted the output from DPRS Calculator. I have dChat running on another computer/radio. This is the output: 10:56:59 PM: $GXRMC,035659.89,A,31878,N,0970=.2717,W,00.0, 00.0L300608,06.E*71 10:56:59 PM: KD5DZU M,LK *5A 11:01:59 PM: $KPGGA,040159.88,3?37.9868,N,09709.2728,W,9,08,0.9,5,M*3E 2 things: The GPS strings were not received well by the other radio. The GPS strings will start with $GPRMC or $GPGGA. As you can see, your strings were garbled. The proper C1 message for KD5DZU M and the truck symbol is LK *37 Note that you must put the full callsign/ID of the radio into dprscalc.aspx to generate the proper checksum (unless, of course, you are not using M as your ID which would make that line garbled, as well). Hope this helps. 73, Pete Loveall AE5PL
RE: [dstar_digital] Re: DPRS
Yes, I think Peter showed where I have something wrong. I had put my call in the DPRS calculator. I did not realize that I needed to put in the my call from the radio. I have KD5DZU M in the radio. This is most likely the issue. I will make the change shortly and see if that fixes it. I was sure that I had something misconfigured. Still learning here. _ From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D) Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 6:49 AM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [dstar_digital] Re: DPRS I just turned on my GPS emulator here at Gatesville, and after plugging in the Com cable, my position reported both thru the K5CTX B and W5ZDN C gateways - at this point I would double check settings on the ID800. Steve Peter Loveall wrote: --- In dstar_digital@ mailto:dstar_digital%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, Gus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I copied and pasted the output from DPRS Calculator. I have dChat running on another computer/radio. This is the output: [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[dstar_digital] Re: DPRS
http://www.aprs-is.net/DPRS.aspx Be sure you have the correct sentence in TX MSG C1...Steve --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Gus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all. I am having an interesting problem that I have not been able to figure out and would like to see if someone could point me in the direction for troubleshooting.
RE: [dstar_digital] Re: DPRS
Yes, I have this in the C1: LK *5A. Cut and past from dprs calc into the 800 program software. _ From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Bosshard Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 10:13 PM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: [dstar_digital] Re: DPRS http://www.aprs- http://www.aprs-is.net/DPRS.aspx is.net/DPRS.aspx Be sure you have the correct sentence in TX MSG C1...Steve --- In dstar_digital@ mailto:dstar_digital%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, Gus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all. I am having an interesting problem that I have not been able to figure out and would like to see if someone could point me in the direction for troubleshooting. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
