Re: [DX-CHAT] sealing coax fittings
Remember.condensation from the extreme changes in temperature also creates water. 73 Norm K1AA] - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Charles Harpole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] sealing coax fittings I don't know why, but single, double, and triple wraps don't matter--mosture still gets in. Last week I took a 4 element 2m yagi off a 40' tower and when I tilted the boom (maybe 40" long) water came pouring out of the end. This in the Arizona desert in a location that has not seen rain in 6 months. de Paul, W8AEF in Phoenix, AZ. Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] one more no buro manager
Hello , > I have no access to a buro so you will need to send direct.. as > postage costs are getting worse you will require 2 ircs or $4usd or > $4euro for postage for the package. Address is below. That's what I have lately got in reply to my e-mail request for buro QSL. Since there is 2 USD step, as I see, who will be the first one requesting 6 dollars or 6 Euros for a confirmation? Is the postage in Australia THAT expensive? And does VK-buro work THAT bad? Conclusion: LoTW rules. -- 73...Art RX9TX 18-Jul-05 13:22 UTC Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] one more no buro manager
Art, > > I have no access to a buro so you will need to send direct.. as > > postage costs are getting worse you will require 2 ircs or $4usd or > > $4euro for postage for the package. Address is below. > > That's what I have lately got in reply to my e-mail request for buro > QSL. Since there is 2 USD step, as I see, who will be the first one > requesting 6 dollars or 6 Euros for a confirmation? Is the postage in > Australia THAT expensive? And does VK-buro work THAT bad? Whoever sent you this should be reported to ARRL as being "unsportsman- like." Looking at the Australian Post Office web site reveals that the tariff for international air mail (letter to 50 g) to most of the world is 1.80$ (AUD). Looking at www.oanda.com, the current conversion rate between the USD and AUD is 1.336 ... thus the cost is about $1.35 US to mail three or four cards from Australia to anyplace in the world (one IRC or two GS should be sufficient). As to the bureau ... in much of the world, those who are not members of the national society do not have access to the bureau. Quite frankly, as slow as it may be, every QSL manager should still be required to be a member of his/her national society and respond to bureau cards (even if it takes a couple years) ... particularly with demands like this! > Conclusion: LoTW rules. Absolutely! Of course, there are the managers/expeditions that are not putting QSOs on LotW until they receive the card (even though their logs have been available for the on-line searches since day one! That also runs counter to the spirit of LotW. 73, ... Joe, W4TV (ex K4IK) Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] QSL costs
Charlie, > I think any US ham should send any DX ham FIVE US DOLLARS > freely if he wants a card back. Can we be so cheap otherwise? > No one is gonna get rich at ham radio, believe me. > > If u disagree with me, please walk in the shoes of DX ops of > modest means; then decide. 73 I doubt that anyone is going to complain about a little bit extra to help out "needy" hams in the most underdeveloped countries. However, this thread started because a VK manager refuses to handle bureau cards and is asking for a $2 premium above the $2 (actually $1.35 US at current exchange rates) is actually costs to return a card. For managers in Europe, VK/ZL, the USA, VE ... even some of the leading "developing nations" of South America to behave that way is unacceptable. Not every DX-er is "made of money" - many even in the USA are retired and on fixed incomes. The "round trip" cost of a traditional QSL (card, two envelopes, postage, two "green stamps") is more than $3.00 and that's not a throw away for some. 73, ... Joe, W4TV (ex K4IK) Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] QSL costs
I am disappointed to hear that any USA ham would not want to be generous with DX QSLing. A can of sugar water soda out of the vending machine is now a US dollar. We gotta get away from the old ideas that somehow we are owed a QSL card and want to send the minimum or less to help get one. I think any US ham should send any DX ham FIVE US DOLLARS freely if he wants a card back. Can we be so cheap otherwise? No one is gonna get rich at ham radio, believe me. If u disagree with me, please walk in the shoes of DX ops of modest means; then decide. 73 Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] one more no buro manager
If you read the back side of an IRC it clearly states: THIS COUPON IS EXCHANGABLE IN ANY COUNTRY OF THE UNIVERSAL POSTAL UNIONFOR THE MINIMUM POSTAGE FOR AN UNREGISTWERED PRIORITY ITEM OR AN UNREGISTERED LETTER SENT BY AIR TO A FOREIGN COUNTRY Therefore 1 IRC should suffice for an air mail envelope and a QSL card. Any more is robbery without violence!! Tom GM4FDM (QSL Manager) - Original Message - From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Art RX9TX'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 3:02 PM Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] one more no buro manager Art, > I have no access to a buro so you will need to send direct.. as > postage costs are getting worse you will require 2 ircs or $4usd or > $4euro for postage for the package. Address is below. That's what I have lately got in reply to my e-mail request for buro QSL. Since there is 2 USD step, as I see, who will be the first one requesting 6 dollars or 6 Euros for a confirmation? Is the postage in Australia THAT expensive? And does VK-buro work THAT bad? Whoever sent you this should be reported to ARRL as being "unsportsman- like." Looking at the Australian Post Office web site reveals that the tariff for international air mail (letter to 50 g) to most of the world is 1.80$ (AUD). Looking at www.oanda.com, the current conversion rate between the USD and AUD is 1.336 ... thus the cost is about $1.35 US to mail three or four cards from Australia to anyplace in the world (one IRC or two GS should be sufficient). As to the bureau ... in much of the world, those who are not members of the national society do not have access to the bureau. Quite frankly, as slow as it may be, every QSL manager should still be required to be a member of his/her national society and respond to bureau cards (even if it takes a couple years) ... particularly with demands like this! Conclusion: LoTW rules. Absolutely! Of course, there are the managers/expeditions that are not putting QSOs on LotW until they receive the card (even though their logs have been available for the on-line searches since day one! That also runs counter to the spirit of LotW. 73, ... Joe, W4TV (ex K4IK) Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] This is ridiculous
I find it hard to fathom that I and other fat cat Amerucan capitalist hams are being urged to send $5 to a poor ham in another country so we can walk in their shoes! I have news for you world travelers who run from one end of the globe and back and come home to a big shack while you plan your next excursion. There are those of us, like me (I am disabled with little income) who can barely scrape up the minimum $2 or 1 IRC that seems to be the minimum nowadays. I have an envelope of outgoing cards that are waiting until I can scrape up a couple of bills to put into an envelope to send off to that poor ham somewhere who is probably better off financially tham I am, and who will more likely than not not reply anyway. $5? Why not $10 or why not a nice Icom? I have been licensed 41 years now and have never failed to answer a qsl whether it has return postage or not, and I can remember when qsling was a courtesy, not a business. This whole thread is disgusting and will result in more and more unnecessary cost to an already dying system. Go ahead and send more than return postage if you wish, but the end result will be that people like me will be expected to follow suit and while you are somewhere living it as a dx station, I will be trying to determine if I can afford your card. Phooey!! Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [personal] [DX-CHAT] QSL costs
I disagree. First, some people have tried to get rich at ham radio. How successful they were is debatable, but certainly no one would argue that none have tried. Second, In trying to walk in the shoes of DX ops of modest means I believe I would be content and happy to send out thousands of QSL cards so long as I zeroed out the cost of making the cards and return postage. I say this as a US op of modest means. To me, and I'm sure to many other hams QSLing is a pleasurable and integral part of ham radio. Those who consider it a chore and send a card only if they receive more than the cost of sending one should be scorned. lastly, some old ideas are still viable. If I send a card to a DX station with sufficient return postage attached I do expect a card in return. This expectation is based on my own set of ham radio values instilled in me for over 50 years. Why screw around with traditions that have served us well for so long? It's up to the new ops to adjust to our hobby's traditions and values not the other way around. Charles, You're a fine guy but I would not try to shame your fellow hams nor try to establish standards based on your own set of values. We are all different and entitled to practice our hobby in our own way. What you do is your business. Enough said. 73. Ken - Original Message - From: "Charles Harpole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 12:03 PM Subject: [personal] [DX-CHAT] QSL costs I am disappointed to hear that any USA ham would not want to be generous with DX QSLing. A can of sugar water soda out of the vending machine is now a US dollar. We gotta get away from the old ideas that somehow we are owed a QSL card and want to send the minimum or less to help get one. I think any US ham should send any DX ham FIVE US DOLLARS freely if he wants a card back. Can we be so cheap otherwise? No one is gonna get rich at ham radio, believe me. If u disagree with me, please walk in the shoes of DX ops of modest means; then decide. 73 Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] QSL costs
Amen, brother. Nobody begrudges the guys in less developed countries a little extra. US hams, like the USA itself, are among the world's most generous. Thanks for saying that so well, Joe. 73, Jerry K3BZ - Original Message - From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Charles Harpole'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 4:10 PM Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] QSL costs > > Charlie, > > > I think any US ham should send any DX ham FIVE US DOLLARS > > freely if he wants a card back. Can we be so cheap otherwise? > > No one is gonna get rich at ham radio, believe me. > > > > If u disagree with me, please walk in the shoes of DX ops of > > modest means; then decide. 73 > > I doubt that anyone is going to complain about a little bit > extra to help out "needy" hams in the most underdeveloped > countries. However, this thread started because a VK manager > refuses to handle bureau cards and is asking for a $2 premium > above the $2 (actually $1.35 US at current exchange rates) is > actually costs to return a card. > > For managers in Europe, VK/ZL, the USA, VE ... even some of > the leading "developing nations" of South America to behave > that way is unacceptable. Not every DX-er is "made of money" > - many even in the USA are retired and on fixed incomes. > The "round trip" cost of a traditional QSL (card, two envelopes, > postage, two "green stamps") is more than $3.00 and that's not > a throw away for some. > > 73, > >... Joe, W4TV (ex K4IK) > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems > http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org > > This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA > http://njdxa.org > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] New IRCs for sale
I have ten of the NEW IRCs and one of the older (still good) IRCs for sale for 14.75 postpaid in the US. Anybody need this small amount? All IRCs are properly stamped on the left side! No rejects in this bunch. 73, Charlie, W0YG..>> Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] one more no buro manager
Hi People. >>> I have no access to a buro so you will need to send direct.. as >>> postage costs are getting worse you will require 2 ircs or $4usd or >>> $4euro for postage for the package. Address is below. > > That's what I have lately got in reply to my e-mail request for buro > QSL. Since there is 2 USD step, as I see, who will be the first one > requesting 6 dollars or 6 Euros for a confirmation? Is the postage in > Australia THAT expensive? And does VK-buro work THAT bad? > > Conclusion: LoTW rules. > >-- > 73...Art RX9TX 18-Jul-05 13:22 UTC As some one who receives a reasonable amount of direct QSLs (and buro) It's my opinion that the above demands are some one trying to get rich! For myself, ONE airmail to 99% out outside Europe costs 47pence. A single USA $ equates to over 60pence. It's very nice when two IRCs or $2 arrives, but it's not needed for my postage. Although, I have to admit, when I send direct I usually send one of each, $ and IRC. LoTW ?? what's that then? Cheers, Andy GD0TEP Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] QSL Costs
One of the most irritating things in QSLing is the DX op who complains about theft in his country's postal system yet never gets a manager in another country with a more secure postal system. One has to wonder if such stations aren't DXing for dollars. If they're not, then they should either tell stations to 1)not send cards or 2)get a manager as mentioned above. Mike W2LO Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] QSL Costs
Amen Mike!! Very simple & workable solution. 73 Russ W4UBC - Original Message - From: "Mike Mattes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 7:03 PM Subject: [DX-CHAT] QSL Costs One of the most irritating things in QSLing is the DX op who complains about theft in his country's postal system yet never gets a manager in another country with a more secure postal system. One has to wonder if such stations aren't DXing for dollars. If they're not, then they should either tell stations to 1)not send cards or 2)get a manager as mentioned above. Mike W2LO Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] QSL costs
What about the DX station that requests green stamps to cover the cost of mailing the card and then sends your card via the Buro? This has happened to me on numerous occassions and probably to just about everyone else. Mort/WA2ARS - Original Message - From: "Charles Harpole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 12:03 PM Subject: [personal] [DX-CHAT] QSL costs I am disappointed to hear that any USA ham would not want to be generous with DX QSLing. A can of sugar water soda out of the vending machine is now a US dollar. We gotta get away from the old ideas that somehow we are owed a QSL card and want to send the minimum or less to help get one. I think any US ham should send any DX ham FIVE US DOLLARS freely if he wants a card back. Can we be so cheap otherwise? No one is gonna get rich at ham radio, believe me. If u disagree with me, please walk in the shoes of DX ops of modest means; then decide. 73 Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[DX-CHAT] QSL costs
HELLO TO ALL ONE DOLLAR IN GREECE IS OK. ONE AIR MAIL LETTER COST IS 0.65 EURO WITH ONE OR TWO QSLS CARDS ENCLUDING. BEST 73 MIKE SV1RK