[Dx4win] PSK31 config change in DX4WIN 6.02? A solution!
Mel (et al),
Mel is absolutely correct - DX4WIN v6.02 keys pins 1 and 16 of the LPT port,
and similarly keys RTS and DTS on a com port. There is no bug; the program
behaves as described in the documentation. Since I am the guy who started
this multiple-email discussion {and claimed there was a bug -- my apologies
to those who really don't care about this topic}, I feel compelled to post
my solution.
The problem for many of us is that version 5.03 included a com port
configuration feature allowing independent selection of ports for CW and PSK
keying. Many of us took advantage of that feature when designing the
complicated and delicate sets of interfaces between our radios, RibBlasters,
CI-V converters, antenna switch boxes, rotor controls, and computers.
Version 6.02 combined the CW and FSK keying into one configuration setting,
eliminated the independence feature, and thus our interfaces stopped
working.
I have studied the behavior differences between 5.03 and 6.02, and concluded
that the simplest (and cheapest) solution for me is to add a single 2 cent
diode to my serial card, and diode sum the DTS signals between com1 and
com2. This will allow me to use com1 for CW and FSK; and use com2 for my
RigBlaster - which controls MMTTY and other AFSK type software. The diode
will connect the DTR signal from PSK keying on com1 to the DTR line on
com2 - so the RigBlaster, which thinks it is sitting on com2, will be
keyed by the PSK key line on com1.
Thanks, Mel, for insisting that things were working properly, and forcing me
to look more deeply into my problem.
-larry
K8UT
- Original Message -
From: Mel Martin (VE2DC) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Larry Gauthier' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'DX4Win Reflector'
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 8:14 PM
Subject: RE: [Dx4win] PSK31 config change in DX4WIN 6.02?
Yes it does... I'm doing it here... Hooked it up to LPT1 pin 1 and 16
just to try it out... Usually use a COM port...
Who says there is a bug?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Larry Gauthier
Sent: March 16, 2003 4:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'DX4Win Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] PSK31 config change in DX4WIN 6.02?
Mel,
Thanks for the note - and I agree that, theoretically, you should be
able to key the rig from the same port that you use for CW (at least
that's what the config menu says ;-). I am only using 1 rig here, so my
work-around #1 _should_ work.
However, in DX4WIN 6.02, the software has a bug. If you configure to key
the rig in CW from a COM port, PSK is also keyed from the same COM port.
If you configure to key the rig in CW from the LPT port, PSK keying via
the same LPT port does not work.
-larry
K8UT
- Original Message -
From: Mel Martin (VE2DC) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Larry Gauthier' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'DX4Win Reflector' dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 3:24 PM
Subject: RE: [Dx4win] PSK31 config change in DX4WIN 6.02?
Hi Larry... You CAN use the LPT port to key both CW and PSK31/CW
PTT... I would think this would only be a problem if you are using a
different radio for PSK31... So work-around 1 should work... Obviously
workaround 2 won't unless you define a 2nd COM PTT interface for mmty
and hook them up in parallel...
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Larry Gauthier
Sent: March 16, 2003 1:41 PM
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Dx4win] PSK31 config change in DX4WIN 6.02?
In DX4WIN 5.x, the PSK SettingsTx screen allowed you to select the
PSK keying com port from 1-8, and either RTS or DTR as the keyed
line. The 5.x PSK selection was completely independent of the keyed
line for CW. In DX4WIN 6.02, it seems that your only choices for PSK
keying are either the CW interface or VOX. What happened to the
ability to independently choose a com port?
In my 5.03 configuration, I had been using the LPT port for CW keying,
and the com port for keying in either PSK31 or MMTTY. As long as I did
not attempt to simultaneously open the PSK window and run MMTTY, this
arrangement worked fine.
Under 6.02, I attempted to work-arounds... neither which seem to work:
First work-around: telling DX4WIN to use the LPT CW interface for PSK
keying. It doesn't work. PSK does not key via the LPT port... although
CW still works fine.
Second work-around: Re-configure for CW keying via the com port. This
allows CW and PSK to work properly, but prevents MMTTY from running.
(DX4WIN grabs control of the CW port upon launch, and if you try to
subsequently launch MMTTY you get a port conflict error.)
Has anyone else encountered these problems? Does anyone have a
suggestion on how to solve them?
-larry
K8UT
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[Dx4win] PSK31 config change in DX4WIN 6.02? A solution!
Thanks for the fix... it may be useful to others... And I'm sure it would be appreciated if Paul can restore the previous flexibility for those who need to find a compatible solution with other harware/software. - Original Message - From: Larry Gauthier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx4win@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 09:40 Subject: Re: [Dx4win] PSK31 config change in DX4WIN 6.02? A solution! Mel (et al), Mel is absolutely correct - DX4WIN v6.02 keys pins 1 and 16 of the LPT port, and similarly keys RTS and DTS on a com port. There is no bug; the program behaves as described in the documentation.
[Dx4win] PSK31 config change in DX4WIN 6.02?
In DX4WIN 5.x, the PSK SettingsTx screen allowed you to select the = PSK keying com port from 1-8, and either RTS or DTR as the keyed line. = The 5.x PSK selection was completely independent of the keyed line for = CW. In DX4WIN 6.02, it seems that your only choices for PSK keying are = either the CW interface or VOX. What happened to the ability to = independently choose a com port? In my 5.03 configuration, I had been using the LPT port for CW keying, = and the com port for keying in either PSK31 or MMTTY. As long as I did = not attempt to simultaneously open the PSK window and run MMTTY, this = arrangement worked fine. Under 6.02, I attempted to work-arounds... neither which seem to work: First work-around: telling DX4WIN to use the LPT CW interface for PSK = keying. It doesn't work. PSK does not key via the LPT port... although = CW still works fine. Second work-around: Re-configure for CW keying via the com port. This = allows CW and PSK to work properly, but prevents MMTTY from running. = (DX4WIN grabs control of the CW port upon launch, and if you try to = subsequently launch MMTTY you get a port conflict error.) Has anyone else encountered these problems? Does anyone have a = suggestion on how to solve them? -larry K8UT --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html The reason this message is shown is because the post was in HTML or had an attachment. Attachments are not allowed. To learn how to post in Plain-Text go to: http://www.expita.com/nomime.html ---
[Dx4win] PSK31 config change in DX4WIN 6.02?
Yes, Larry, I share this dilemma with you and any others that work CW and PSK31 modes and use different ports for control of CW keying and PSK31 PTT. I brought this problem to the attention of Paul just days after the release of Ver 6... It is a real pain now and was so simple in Ver. 5.02/5.03 and makes PSK31 changeover so difficult that I've gone back to using Ver. 5.02 here. Paul told me that he would work on the problem and I anticipate that fix in the next maintenance release, hopefully soon. Ver. 6.xx would then be a real nice enhancement for us multimode CW/PSK users. 73, -=Rog-K9RB=- - Original Message - From: Larry Gauthier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 1:41 PM Subject: [Dx4win] PSK31 config change in DX4WIN 6.02? In DX4WIN 5.x, the PSK SettingsTx screen allowed you to select the PSK keying com port from 1-8, and either RTS or DTR as the keyed line. The 5.x PSK selection was completely independent of the keyed line for CW. In DX4WIN 6.02, it seems that your only choices for PSK keying are either the CW interface or VOX. What happened to the ability to independently choose a com port? In my 5.03 configuration, I had been using the LPT port for CW keying, and the com port for keying in either PSK31 or MMTTY. As long as I did not attempt to simultaneously open the PSK window and run MMTTY, this arrangement worked fine. Under 6.02, I attempted to work-arounds... neither which seem to work: First work-around: telling DX4WIN to use the LPT CW interface for PSK keying. It doesn't work. PSK does not key via the LPT port... although CW still works fine. Second work-around: Re-configure for CW keying via the com port. This allows CW and PSK to work properly, but prevents MMTTY from running. (DX4WIN grabs control of the CW port upon launch, and if you try to subsequently launch MMTTY you get a port conflict error.) Has anyone else encountered these problems? Does anyone have a suggestion on how to solve them? -larry K8UT --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html The reason this message is shown is because the post was in HTML or had an attachment. Attachments are not allowed. To learn how to post in Plain-Text go to: http://www.expita.com/nomime.html --- ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
[Dx4win] PSK31 config change in DX4WIN 6.02?
Mel, Thanks for the note - and I agree that, theoretically, you should be able to key the rig from the same port that you use for CW (at least that's what the config menu says ;-). I am only using 1 rig here, so my work-around #1 _should_ work. However, in DX4WIN 6.02, the software has a bug. If you configure to key the rig in CW from a COM port, PSK is also keyed from the same COM port. If you configure to key the rig in CW from the LPT port, PSK keying via the same LPT port does not work. -larry K8UT - Original Message - From: Mel Martin (VE2DC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Larry Gauthier' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'DX4Win Reflector' dx4win@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 3:24 PM Subject: RE: [Dx4win] PSK31 config change in DX4WIN 6.02? Hi Larry... You CAN use the LPT port to key both CW and PSK31/CW PTT... I would think this would only be a problem if you are using a different radio for PSK31... So work-around 1 should work... Obviously workaround 2 won't unless you define a 2nd COM PTT interface for mmty and hook them up in parallel... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Gauthier Sent: March 16, 2003 1:41 PM To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Dx4win] PSK31 config change in DX4WIN 6.02? In DX4WIN 5.x, the PSK SettingsTx screen allowed you to select the PSK keying com port from 1-8, and either RTS or DTR as the keyed line. The 5.x PSK selection was completely independent of the keyed line for CW. In DX4WIN 6.02, it seems that your only choices for PSK keying are either the CW interface or VOX. What happened to the ability to independently choose a com port? In my 5.03 configuration, I had been using the LPT port for CW keying, and the com port for keying in either PSK31 or MMTTY. As long as I did not attempt to simultaneously open the PSK window and run MMTTY, this arrangement worked fine. Under 6.02, I attempted to work-arounds... neither which seem to work: First work-around: telling DX4WIN to use the LPT CW interface for PSK keying. It doesn't work. PSK does not key via the LPT port... although CW still works fine. Second work-around: Re-configure for CW keying via the com port. This allows CW and PSK to work properly, but prevents MMTTY from running. (DX4WIN grabs control of the CW port upon launch, and if you try to subsequently launch MMTTY you get a port conflict error.) Has anyone else encountered these problems? Does anyone have a suggestion on how to solve them? -larry K8UT --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html The reason this message is shown is because the post was in HTML or had an attachment. Attachments are not allowed. To learn how to post in Plain-Text go to: http://www.expita.com/nomime.html --- ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
[Dx4win] PSK31 config change in DX4WIN 6.02?
You haven't got it hooked up correctly... On the LPT port... Pin 1 keys CW Pin 16 keys PTT It sounds like you are using pin 1 for PTT I don't know anything about Rigblasters... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Borowski Sent: March 16, 2003 4:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Larry Gauthier' Cc: 'DX4Win Reflector' Subject: Re: [Dx4win] PSK31 config change in DX4WIN 6.02? That doesn't work either, Mel. The PTT relay in the RigBlaster then keys with every dit and dah or the radio PTT keys with every dit and dah in the CW mode. It would likely work if you were to disconnect and re-connect the PTT line for PSK31 but why not just allow the individual software control for individual selection of ports for CW and PSK31 PTT as it was in Ver 5.02/03 That wasn't broke and didn't need fixing! Now its broke! -=Rog-K9RB=- - Original Message - From: Mel Martin (VE2DC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Larry Gauthier' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'DX4Win Reflector' dx4win@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 3:24 PM Subject: RE: [Dx4win] PSK31 config change in DX4WIN 6.02? Hi Larry... You CAN use the LPT port to key both CW and PSK31/CW PTT... I would think this would only be a problem if you are using a different radio for PSK31... So work-around 1 should work... Obviously workaround 2 won't unless you define a 2nd COM PTT interface for mmty and hook them up in parallel... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Gauthier Sent: March 16, 2003 1:41 PM To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Dx4win] PSK31 config change in DX4WIN 6.02? In DX4WIN 5.x, the PSK SettingsTx screen allowed you to select the PSK keying com port from 1-8, and either RTS or DTR as the keyed line. The 5.x PSK selection was completely independent of the keyed line for CW. In DX4WIN 6.02, it seems that your only choices for PSK keying are either the CW interface or VOX. What happened to the ability to independently choose a com port? In my 5.03 configuration, I had been using the LPT port for CW keying, and the com port for keying in either PSK31 or MMTTY. As long as I did not attempt to simultaneously open the PSK window and run MMTTY, this arrangement worked fine. Under 6.02, I attempted to work-arounds... neither which seem to work: First work-around: telling DX4WIN to use the LPT CW interface for PSK keying. It doesn't work. PSK does not key via the LPT port... although CW still works fine. Second work-around: Re-configure for CW keying via the com port. This allows CW and PSK to work properly, but prevents MMTTY from running. (DX4WIN grabs control of the CW port upon launch, and if you try to subsequently launch MMTTY you get a port conflict error.) Has anyone else encountered these problems? Does anyone have a suggestion on how to solve them? -larry K8UT --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html The reason this message is shown is because the post was in HTML or had an attachment. Attachments are not allowed. To learn how to post in Plain-Text go to: http://www.expita.com/nomime.html --- ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
[Dx4win] PSK31 config change in DX4WIN 6.02?
Yes it does... I'm doing it here... Hooked it up to LPT1 pin 1 and 16 just to try it out... Usually use a COM port... Who says there is a bug? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Gauthier Sent: March 16, 2003 4:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'DX4Win Reflector' Subject: Re: [Dx4win] PSK31 config change in DX4WIN 6.02? Mel, Thanks for the note - and I agree that, theoretically, you should be able to key the rig from the same port that you use for CW (at least that's what the config menu says ;-). I am only using 1 rig here, so my work-around #1 _should_ work. However, in DX4WIN 6.02, the software has a bug. If you configure to key the rig in CW from a COM port, PSK is also keyed from the same COM port. If you configure to key the rig in CW from the LPT port, PSK keying via the same LPT port does not work. -larry K8UT - Original Message - From: Mel Martin (VE2DC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Larry Gauthier' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'DX4Win Reflector' dx4win@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 3:24 PM Subject: RE: [Dx4win] PSK31 config change in DX4WIN 6.02? Hi Larry... You CAN use the LPT port to key both CW and PSK31/CW PTT... I would think this would only be a problem if you are using a different radio for PSK31... So work-around 1 should work... Obviously workaround 2 won't unless you define a 2nd COM PTT interface for mmty and hook them up in parallel... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Gauthier Sent: March 16, 2003 1:41 PM To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Dx4win] PSK31 config change in DX4WIN 6.02? In DX4WIN 5.x, the PSK SettingsTx screen allowed you to select the PSK keying com port from 1-8, and either RTS or DTR as the keyed line. The 5.x PSK selection was completely independent of the keyed line for CW. In DX4WIN 6.02, it seems that your only choices for PSK keying are either the CW interface or VOX. What happened to the ability to independently choose a com port? In my 5.03 configuration, I had been using the LPT port for CW keying, and the com port for keying in either PSK31 or MMTTY. As long as I did not attempt to simultaneously open the PSK window and run MMTTY, this arrangement worked fine. Under 6.02, I attempted to work-arounds... neither which seem to work: First work-around: telling DX4WIN to use the LPT CW interface for PSK keying. It doesn't work. PSK does not key via the LPT port... although CW still works fine. Second work-around: Re-configure for CW keying via the com port. This allows CW and PSK to work properly, but prevents MMTTY from running. (DX4WIN grabs control of the CW port upon launch, and if you try to subsequently launch MMTTY you get a port conflict error.) Has anyone else encountered these problems? Does anyone have a suggestion on how to solve them? -larry K8UT --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html The reason this message is shown is because the post was in HTML or had an attachment. Attachments are not allowed. To learn how to post in Plain-Text go to: http://www.expita.com/nomime.html --- ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
[Dx4win] PSK31 config change in DX4WIN 6.02?
I don't use LPT port as early on I found that CW doesn't work as well as with COM port. I use COM 3 for rig control and also CW keying, COM 5 is dedicated for PTT w/PSK31 RigBlaster is commonplace with PSK31 and requires use of a separate COM port for PTT Rig control and CW keying work well on the same COM port, can't use LPT port for Rig control. Also, I don't care to re-engineer what use to work well and still works well with Writelog and other programs. That would create more problems when using other software. As I said before, It wasn't broke before and now it is. Ver 5.02/03 did this all fine by allowing a separate port selection. If you don't use a RigBlaster, or separate COM ports for CW and PTT for PSK31 that's what you are missing! If what you are doing works for you, thats great. Many others want it as it was before V.6 - Original Message - From: Mel Martin (VE2DC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Roger Borowski' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Larry Gauthier' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'DX4Win Reflector' dx4win@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 8:13 PM Subject: RE: [Dx4win] PSK31 config change in DX4WIN 6.02? You haven't got it hooked up correctly... On the LPT port... Pin 1 keys CW Pin 16 keys PTT It sounds like you are using pin 1 for PTT I don't know anything about Rigblasters... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Borowski Sent: March 16, 2003 4:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Larry Gauthier' Cc: 'DX4Win Reflector' Subject: Re: [Dx4win] PSK31 config change in DX4WIN 6.02? That doesn't work either, Mel. The PTT relay in the RigBlaster then keys with every dit and dah or the radio PTT keys with every dit and dah in the CW mode. It would likely work if you were to disconnect and re-connect the PTT line for PSK31 but why not just allow the individual software control for individual selection of ports for CW and PSK31 PTT as it was in Ver 5.02/03 That wasn't broke and didn't need fixing! Now its broke! -=Rog-K9RB=- - Original Message - From: Mel Martin (VE2DC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Larry Gauthier' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'DX4Win Reflector' dx4win@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 3:24 PM Subject: RE: [Dx4win] PSK31 config change in DX4WIN 6.02? Hi Larry... You CAN use the LPT port to key both CW and PSK31/CW PTT... I would think this would only be a problem if you are using a different radio for PSK31... So work-around 1 should work... Obviously workaround 2 won't unless you define a 2nd COM PTT interface for mmty and hook them up in parallel... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Gauthier Sent: March 16, 2003 1:41 PM To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Dx4win] PSK31 config change in DX4WIN 6.02? In DX4WIN 5.x, the PSK SettingsTx screen allowed you to select the PSK keying com port from 1-8, and either RTS or DTR as the keyed line. The 5.x PSK selection was completely independent of the keyed line for CW. In DX4WIN 6.02, it seems that your only choices for PSK keying are either the CW interface or VOX. What happened to the ability to independently choose a com port? In my 5.03 configuration, I had been using the LPT port for CW keying, and the com port for keying in either PSK31 or MMTTY. As long as I did not attempt to simultaneously open the PSK window and run MMTTY, this arrangement worked fine. Under 6.02, I attempted to work-arounds... neither which seem to work: First work-around: telling DX4WIN to use the LPT CW interface for PSK keying. It doesn't work. PSK does not key via the LPT port... although CW still works fine. Second work-around: Re-configure for CW keying via the com port. This allows CW and PSK to work properly, but prevents MMTTY from running. (DX4WIN grabs control of the CW port upon launch, and if you try to subsequently launch MMTTY you get a port conflict error.) Has anyone else encountered these problems? Does anyone have a suggestion on how to solve them? -larry K8UT --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html The reason this message is shown is because the post was in HTML or had an attachment. Attachments are not allowed. To learn how to post in Plain-Text go to: http://www.expita.com/nomime.html --- ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
