[e-gold-list] Re: Problems accessing Egold via Netscape

2000-11-15 Thread Tril

On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, John Bentley wrote:

> I have tons of problems entering
> Egold via Netscape. IE works ok though.
> 
> Does anyone know if Egold going to do
> anything to make Egold accessable via Netscape
> (my version is 4.75) without problems?

You have to allow JavaScript and cookies.  It works fine for me.

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[e-gold-list] Re: Inventory

2000-11-15 Thread PECB

Yes, Gold-Age Can!

http://www.gold-age.net

   We don't take wires directly. We use a service called EZCmoney to process
Bank Wires, Western Union Transfers, Checks and Money Orders. For more info.
about EZCmoney take a look at http://www.ezcmoney.com  It's free and easy to
set up an EZCmoney account. Once you set up and fund and EZCmoney account you
can use the EZCmoney order form at Gold-Age to place an order for e-gold.

EZCmoney is available for anyone in the world to use!

EZCmoney is an easy to use, safe, secure, pre-paid internet payment system that

allow you to pay for goods and services without giving out your personal or
financial information to anyone; including EZCard, Inc (the company that runs
EZCmoney). You don't even have to have a bank account to use EZCmoney! Due
to way EZCmoney works, your transactions can be completely private, and even
annonymous. Gold-Age currently charges a 6.5% service charge to purchase
e-gold e-metal through this system (there is an additional $3 charge for orders

less than $200).


We've been using EZCmoney for a little over a month now. The average order
completion time for EZCmoney transactions (for properly submitted orders from
funded EZCmoney accounts) has been about 2 to 3 business days, with quite a few
getting done the next business day.

Regards,

Parker E.C. Bradley
President
Gold-Age, LLC

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Bob wrote:

> It appears that some money changers have little to no
> inventory of gold to sell at the moment. Are there any
> of you that if you were to receive a wire 2-3 days from
> now for USD 2,000 - 3,000 would have a high probability
> of being able to fill an order for gold for that amount?
>
> Please answer to this list.
>
> Bob
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[e-gold-list] Re: Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer you might not noitice

2000-11-15 Thread Glencannon Group Ltd.

I have already apologized for responding to your lies with less than polite
comments.  Have you apologized?  I think not.  But either way, good luck
with your business.

On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 17:27:26 -0600, Destiny Worldwide wrote:

>  I heartily agree.  I refraim form this type of thing most of the time,
but
>  when attacked and called an ashole, it is hard to resist.  I have found
most
>  of the people I deal with introduced to me frm egold to be great people
to
>  work with.  That's why I was surprised by the vritriol in the other guy's
>  post.  I promise to stop this.
>  
>  John
>  !!!
>  Our Offshore Website has been totally redesigned, and
>  we now have web based banking, opening of accounts,
>  deposits, and withdrawals! Go to: http://www.offshorearnings.com
>  +))
>  -Original Message-
>  From: Michael Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: Destiny Worldwide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; e-gold Discussion
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Cc: e-gold Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 5:09 PM
>  Subject: Re: [e-gold-list] Re: Problems with Glencannon's debit card
offer
>  you might not noitice
>  
>  
>  >Both of you.
>  >
>  >I do not think this is an appropriate discussion board for a personal
bun
>  >fight.
>  >
>  >None of this will enamour customers to your cause.
>  >
>  >You don't have to prove yourself right by proving someone else wrong.
>  >
>  >I suggest you kiss and make up
>  >
>  >Your customers are watching you
>  >
>  >Kind regards,
>  >
>  >Michael Moore
>  >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >http://www.gold-today.com
>  >Sign up with e-gold today and get grams of e-gold here.
>  >https://www.e-gold.com/newacct/newaccount.asp?cid=129542
>  >
>  >- Original Message -
>  >From: "Destiny Worldwide" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >Cc: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 9:37 AM
>  >Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer
you
>  >might not noitice
>  >
>  >
>  >>
>  >> !!!
>  >> Our Offshore Website has been totally redesigned, and
>  >> we now have web based banking, opening of accounts,
>  >> deposits, and withdrawals! Go to: http://www.offshorearnings.com
>  >> +))
>  
>  >> -Original Message-
>  >> From: Glencannon Group Ltd. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >> To: Destiny Worldwide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; e-gold Discussion
>  >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >> Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 2:21 PM
>  >> Subject: Re: [e-gold-list] Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer
>  you
>  >> might not noitice
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> >I generally don't like to talk bad about people, but this fellow is
full
>  >of
>  >> >shit.  I never spoke ill of whoever "Destiny Worldwide" is and I have
no
>  >> >particular problems with their system as I HAVE NO INFORMATION ABOUT
IT.
>  >> >Now a little less than a month I asked if people would be interested
in
>  >> >this, and I would put it together.  This is waht I have done.  I
don't
>  >> >appreciate the tone of this message, but I will let people judge for
>  >> >themselves.  I do not claim that this is ANONYMOUS, and I do not
claim
>  it
>  >> is
>  >> >a high security vehicle.  If that is what you want and need, contact
me
>  >and
>  >> >I'll give you some advice.  I do not advise the use of ANONYMOUS
>  accounts
>  >> as
>  >> >most of these are run by crooks who either run off with the funds
inthe
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> Excuse me,  this is issued by the largest bank in thier jurisdiction. 
If
>  >> you can start calling people names, then so can I.  I think, though,
if
>  >> people will compare your pitiful little website with ours they will
see a
>  >> big difference.  We have spent money and time to develop ours, along
with
>  >a
>  >> functional database, etc.  Yours 
>  >>
>  >> >accounts, or get caught because they are breaking the laws in the
>  >> >jurisdiction in which they operate.  But the fact is that this
asshole
>  >has
>  >> >chosen to promote his product, which may be very fine, by attacking
mine
>  >> >with false and misleading comments.  I will address these pissant
>  >comments
>  >> >below:
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> I will answer your points below.  I have not attacked anything, just
>  >pointed
>  >> out the facts.  Sorry if this hurts your sales.  And since our card is
>  >> issued by the LARGEST BANK in their jurisdiction, what's the problem?
>  YOU
>  >> ARE THE GUY TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO BUY A COMPANY CARD THAT BY
CONTRACT
>  >> BELONGS TO YOU!
>  >>
>  >> >
>  >> >
>  >> >On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:05:41 -0600, Destiny Worldwide wrote:
>  >> >
>  >> >>  I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but since Glencannon
pointed
>  >> out
>  >> >>  what he thought was a problem with our syste

[e-gold-list] Re: Inventory

2000-11-15 Thread David C Reed

Hi Bob,

While I am not recognized on the e-gold site as a 
moneychanger, we would be able to fill an order of 
this nature beginning on Monday.

We are currently funding our e-gold account with 
$25,000, and will begin funding again on Monday.

Our site has been closed to public orders for the 
last 30 days, and will reopen then.  Our problem 
has been that every time we fund out account, the 
funds are depleted within 48 hours.  So, we are 
stepping up our funding in an effort to anticipate 
customer needs.

Hope this is the type of answer you were looking for.

David Reed

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[e-gold-list] RE Netscape w/e-Gold

2000-11-15 Thread twpmarket

John,
  I use Netscape 4.72 (earlier than your version) and have no
problems.  What kind of problems are you having?
Dave


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[e-gold-list] Rapid spending

2000-11-15 Thread Khurram Khan

Hello,

   For market makers and all those wanting to make spending a little faster.  I have 
put some code together at http://www.paybygold.com/auto to help you out.  You can 
directly specify the account number and amount for any number of spends and confirm 
them directly.  If you have any questions on it, please email me.

 Khurram Khan

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[e-gold-list] Problems accessing Egold via Netscape

2000-11-15 Thread John Bentley

I have tons of problems entering
Egold via Netscape. IE works ok though.

Does anyone know if Egold going to do
anything to make Egold accessable via Netscape
(my version is 4.75) without problems?

Thanks,

John Bentley

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[e-gold-list] Re: Inventory

2000-11-15 Thread George Matyjewicz

At 08:27 PM 11/15/2000 -0500, Bob wrote:
>It appears that some money changers have little to no
>inventory of gold to sell at the moment. Are there any
>of you that if you were to receive a wire 2-3 days from
>now for USD 2,000 - 3,000 would have a high probability
>of being able to fill an order for gold for that amount?

We can, if you are an agent of Standard Reserve.  We're 
doing  10-20 times that every day without a problem.  It is 
Standard Gold, backed by e-Gold.

George
__
George Matyjewicz,  Chief Executive Officer
Standard Reserve Corp. -- Atlanta, GA
Acct# 120018  Tel: 770-300-3070 Ext 2818
World Wide Currency for the World Wide Web
http://www.standardreserve.com
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[e-gold-list] Inventory

2000-11-15 Thread Bob

It appears that some money changers have little to no
inventory of gold to sell at the moment. Are there any
of you that if you were to receive a wire 2-3 days from 
now for USD 2,000 - 3,000 would have a high probability
of being able to fill an order for gold for that amount?

Please answer to this list.

Bob
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[e-gold-list] Re: Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer you might not noitice

2000-11-15 Thread Glencannon Group Ltd.

And I bet your dad is bigger than my dad too.  Again, Best of luck.

On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:37:56 -0600, Destiny Worldwide wrote:

>  
>  !!!
>  Our Offshore Website has been totally redesigned, and
>  we now have web based banking, opening of accounts,
>  deposits, and withdrawals! Go to: http://www.offshorearnings.com
>  +))
>  -Original Message-
>  From: Glencannon Group Ltd. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: Destiny Worldwide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; e-gold Discussion
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 2:21 PM
>  Subject: Re: [e-gold-list] Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer
you
>  might not noitice
>  
>  
>  >I generally don't like to talk bad about people, but this fellow is full
of
>  >shit.  I never spoke ill of whoever "Destiny Worldwide" is and I have no
>  >particular problems with their system as I HAVE NO INFORMATION ABOUT IT.
>  >Now a little less than a month I asked if people would be interested in
>  >this, and I would put it together.  This is waht I have done.  I don't
>  >appreciate the tone of this message, but I will let people judge for
>  >themselves.  I do not claim that this is ANONYMOUS, and I do not claim
it
>  is
>  >a high security vehicle.  If that is what you want and need, contact me
and
>  >I'll give you some advice.  I do not advise the use of ANONYMOUS
accounts
>  as
>  >most of these are run by crooks who either run off with the funds inthe
>  
>  
>  Excuse me,  this is issued by the largest bank in thier jurisdiction.  If
>  you can start calling people names, then so can I.  I think, though, if
>  people will compare your pitiful little website with ours they will see a
>  big difference.  We have spent money and time to develop ours, along with
a
>  functional database, etc.  Yours 
>  
>  >accounts, or get caught because they are breaking the laws in the
>  >jurisdiction in which they operate.  But the fact is that this asshole
has
>  >chosen to promote his product, which may be very fine, by attacking mine
>  >with false and misleading comments.  I will address these pissant
comments
>  >below:
>  
>  
>  I will answer your points below.  I have not attacked anything, just
pointed
>  out the facts.  Sorry if this hurts your sales.  And since our card is
>  issued by the LARGEST BANK in their jurisdiction, what's the problem? 
YOU
>  ARE THE GUY TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO BUY A COMPANY CARD THAT BY CONTRACT
>  BELONGS TO YOU!
>  
>  >
>  >
>  >On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:05:41 -0600, Destiny Worldwide wrote:
>  >
>  >>  I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but since Glencannon pointed
>  out
>  >>  what he thought was a problem with our system, let me pount out a
couple
>  >>  with his.
>  >>
>  >>  1.  His website states that he is in Belize, yet he gives an address
in
>  >>  Texas to mail the applications.  Obviusly, then, the address in
Belize
>  is
>  >a
>  >>  maildrop.  What this means is that when you send yoru documents to
him,
>  >they
>  >>  are sotred onshore, where BB can seize them anytime they want.  Your
>  >>  identity is not safe!
>  >
>  >The mail drop is in Houston, and documents are forwarded to me wherever
I
>  >may be, Belize, the Dominican Republic, or sometimes Houston.  But no
>  doubt,
>  
>  
>  Oh, so if there is a problem, don't bother looking for you because you
are
>  on the lam -- er.. on the go all the time.  It's is obvious that this
is
>  a one man show.  We, on the other hand, are an established company with
>  offices, employees, etc...
>  
>  >there is a possibility of interception.  I never claimed this was some
kind
>  >of safe way to do "money launderying."  If that is what you need you
might
>  
>  
>  Who said anything about money laundering?  That is a viscius ad homanim
>  argument and a logical fallacy.  People can send orders to a place where
we
>  really are.  Anyway, there is no proof that this is a maildrop, just your
>  word.  And no one knows if you are really the globetrotter you claim, or
>  just some guy working in his basement in Houston.
>  
>  >want to go elsewhere.  What I am providing is a convenient way of giving
a
>  >service.  Take it or leave it.
>  
>  
>  Yeah, real conventient.  And THEIR CARD IS IN YOUR COMPANY NAME!  How
>  convenient for you!
>  
>  >
>  >>
>  >>  2.  Same for the bank.  If the bank they are ever using rolls over
and
>  >rats
>  >>  you out, then you are screwed.  The only way to prevent this is if
the
>  >bnak
>  >>  does not know who you are.
>  >>
>  >
>  >This is utter Bullshit, but would go for any bank out there.  This bank
in
>  >particular is a very safe and sound bank in a very safe and sound
>  >jurisdiction.  I have been doing business with it and others in this
>  >jurisdiction, and it will no more "rat you out" than the rat who wrote
this
>  >email.
>  >
>  
>  that's what people thought with Guardian Trust, too, but if the bank
doe

[e-gold-list] Re: Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer you might not noitice

2000-11-15 Thread Destiny Worldwide

I heartily agree.  I refraim form this type of thing most of the time, but
when attacked and called an ashole, it is hard to resist.  I have found most
of the people I deal with introduced to me frm egold to be great people to
work with.  That's why I was surprised by the vritriol in the other guy's
post.  I promise to stop this.

John
!!!
Our Offshore Website has been totally redesigned, and
we now have web based banking, opening of accounts,
deposits, and withdrawals! Go to: http://www.offshorearnings.com
+))
-Original Message-
From: Michael Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Destiny Worldwide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; e-gold Discussion
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: e-gold Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [e-gold-list] Re: Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer
you might not noitice


>Both of you.
>
>I do not think this is an appropriate discussion board for a personal bun
>fight.
>
>None of this will enamour customers to your cause.
>
>You don't have to prove yourself right by proving someone else wrong.
>
>I suggest you kiss and make up
>
>Your customers are watching you
>
>Kind regards,
>
>Michael Moore
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://www.gold-today.com
>Sign up with e-gold today and get grams of e-gold here.
>https://www.e-gold.com/newacct/newaccount.asp?cid=129542
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Destiny Worldwide" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 9:37 AM
>Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer you
>might not noitice
>
>
>>
>> !!!
>> Our Offshore Website has been totally redesigned, and
>> we now have web based banking, opening of accounts,
>> deposits, and withdrawals! Go to: http://www.offshorearnings.com
>> +))

>> -Original Message-
>> From: Glencannon Group Ltd. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: Destiny Worldwide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; e-gold Discussion
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 2:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: [e-gold-list] Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer
you
>> might not noitice
>>
>>
>> >I generally don't like to talk bad about people, but this fellow is full
>of
>> >shit.  I never spoke ill of whoever "Destiny Worldwide" is and I have no
>> >particular problems with their system as I HAVE NO INFORMATION ABOUT IT.
>> >Now a little less than a month I asked if people would be interested in
>> >this, and I would put it together.  This is waht I have done.  I don't
>> >appreciate the tone of this message, but I will let people judge for
>> >themselves.  I do not claim that this is ANONYMOUS, and I do not claim
it
>> is
>> >a high security vehicle.  If that is what you want and need, contact me
>and
>> >I'll give you some advice.  I do not advise the use of ANONYMOUS
accounts
>> as
>> >most of these are run by crooks who either run off with the funds inthe
>>
>>
>> Excuse me,  this is issued by the largest bank in thier jurisdiction.  If
>> you can start calling people names, then so can I.  I think, though, if
>> people will compare your pitiful little website with ours they will see a
>> big difference.  We have spent money and time to develop ours, along with
>a
>> functional database, etc.  Yours 
>>
>> >accounts, or get caught because they are breaking the laws in the
>> >jurisdiction in which they operate.  But the fact is that this asshole
>has
>> >chosen to promote his product, which may be very fine, by attacking mine
>> >with false and misleading comments.  I will address these pissant
>comments
>> >below:
>>
>>
>> I will answer your points below.  I have not attacked anything, just
>pointed
>> out the facts.  Sorry if this hurts your sales.  And since our card is
>> issued by the LARGEST BANK in their jurisdiction, what's the problem?
YOU
>> ARE THE GUY TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO BUY A COMPANY CARD THAT BY CONTRACT
>> BELONGS TO YOU!
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:05:41 -0600, Destiny Worldwide wrote:
>> >
>> >>  I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but since Glencannon pointed
>> out
>> >>  what he thought was a problem with our system, let me pount out a
>couple
>> >>  with his.
>> >>
>> >>  1.  His website states that he is in Belize, yet he gives an address
>in
>> >>  Texas to mail the applications.  Obviusly, then, the address in
Belize
>> is
>> >a
>> >>  maildrop.  What this means is that when you send yoru documents to
>him,
>> >they
>> >>  are sotred onshore, where BB can seize them anytime they want.  Your
>> >>  identity is not safe!
>> >
>> >The mail drop is in Houston, and documents are forwarded to me wherever
I
>> >may be, Belize, the Dominican Republic, or sometimes Houston.  But no
>> doubt,
>>
>>

[e-gold-list] Re: Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer you might not noitice

2000-11-15 Thread Michael Moore

Both of you.

I do not think this is an appropriate discussion board for a personal bun
fight.

None of this will enamour customers to your cause.

You don't have to prove yourself right by proving someone else wrong.

I suggest you kiss and make up

Your customers are watching you

Kind regards,

Michael Moore
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.gold-today.com
Sign up with e-gold today and get grams of e-gold here.
https://www.e-gold.com/newacct/newaccount.asp?cid=129542

- Original Message -
From: "Destiny Worldwide" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 9:37 AM
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer you
might not noitice


>
> !!!
> Our Offshore Website has been totally redesigned, and
> we now have web based banking, opening of accounts,
> deposits, and withdrawals! Go to: http://www.offshorearnings.com
> +))
> -Original Message-
> From: Glencannon Group Ltd. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Destiny Worldwide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; e-gold Discussion
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 2:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [e-gold-list] Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer you
> might not noitice
>
>
> >I generally don't like to talk bad about people, but this fellow is full
of
> >shit.  I never spoke ill of whoever "Destiny Worldwide" is and I have no
> >particular problems with their system as I HAVE NO INFORMATION ABOUT IT.
> >Now a little less than a month I asked if people would be interested in
> >this, and I would put it together.  This is waht I have done.  I don't
> >appreciate the tone of this message, but I will let people judge for
> >themselves.  I do not claim that this is ANONYMOUS, and I do not claim it
> is
> >a high security vehicle.  If that is what you want and need, contact me
and
> >I'll give you some advice.  I do not advise the use of ANONYMOUS accounts
> as
> >most of these are run by crooks who either run off with the funds inthe
>
>
> Excuse me,  this is issued by the largest bank in thier jurisdiction.  If
> you can start calling people names, then so can I.  I think, though, if
> people will compare your pitiful little website with ours they will see a
> big difference.  We have spent money and time to develop ours, along with
a
> functional database, etc.  Yours 
>
> >accounts, or get caught because they are breaking the laws in the
> >jurisdiction in which they operate.  But the fact is that this asshole
has
> >chosen to promote his product, which may be very fine, by attacking mine
> >with false and misleading comments.  I will address these pissant
comments
> >below:
>
>
> I will answer your points below.  I have not attacked anything, just
pointed
> out the facts.  Sorry if this hurts your sales.  And since our card is
> issued by the LARGEST BANK in their jurisdiction, what's the problem?  YOU
> ARE THE GUY TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO BUY A COMPANY CARD THAT BY CONTRACT
> BELONGS TO YOU!
>
> >
> >
> >On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:05:41 -0600, Destiny Worldwide wrote:
> >
> >>  I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but since Glencannon pointed
> out
> >>  what he thought was a problem with our system, let me pount out a
couple
> >>  with his.
> >>
> >>  1.  His website states that he is in Belize, yet he gives an address
in
> >>  Texas to mail the applications.  Obviusly, then, the address in Belize
> is
> >a
> >>  maildrop.  What this means is that when you send yoru documents to
him,
> >they
> >>  are sotred onshore, where BB can seize them anytime they want.  Your
> >>  identity is not safe!
> >
> >The mail drop is in Houston, and documents are forwarded to me wherever I
> >may be, Belize, the Dominican Republic, or sometimes Houston.  But no
> doubt,
>
>
> Oh, so if there is a problem, don't bother looking for you because you are
> on the lam -- er.. on the go all the time.  It's is obvious that this
is
> a one man show.  We, on the other hand, are an established company with
> offices, employees, etc...
>
> >there is a possibility of interception.  I never claimed this was some
kind
> >of safe way to do "money launderying."  If that is what you need you
might
>
>
> Who said anything about money laundering?  That is a viscius ad homanim
> argument and a logical fallacy.  People can send orders to a place where
we
> really are.  Anyway, there is no proof that this is a maildrop, just your
> word.  And no one knows if you are really the globetrotter you claim, or
> just some guy working in his basement in Houston.
>
> >want to go elsewhere.  What I am providing is a convenient way of giving
a
> >service.  Take it or leave it.
>
>
> Yeah, real conventient.  And THEIR CARD IS IN YOUR COMPANY NAME!  How
> convenient for you!
>
> >
> >>
> >>  2.  Same for the bank.  If the bank they are ever using rolls over and
> >rats
> >>

[e-gold-list] Re: Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer you might not noitice

2000-11-15 Thread Destiny Worldwide


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-Original Message-
From: Glencannon Group Ltd. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Destiny Worldwide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; e-gold Discussion
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [e-gold-list] Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer you
might not noitice


>I generally don't like to talk bad about people, but this fellow is full of
>shit.  I never spoke ill of whoever "Destiny Worldwide" is and I have no
>particular problems with their system as I HAVE NO INFORMATION ABOUT IT.
>Now a little less than a month I asked if people would be interested in
>this, and I would put it together.  This is waht I have done.  I don't
>appreciate the tone of this message, but I will let people judge for
>themselves.  I do not claim that this is ANONYMOUS, and I do not claim it
is
>a high security vehicle.  If that is what you want and need, contact me and
>I'll give you some advice.  I do not advise the use of ANONYMOUS accounts
as
>most of these are run by crooks who either run off with the funds inthe


Excuse me,  this is issued by the largest bank in thier jurisdiction.  If
you can start calling people names, then so can I.  I think, though, if
people will compare your pitiful little website with ours they will see a
big difference.  We have spent money and time to develop ours, along with a
functional database, etc.  Yours 

>accounts, or get caught because they are breaking the laws in the
>jurisdiction in which they operate.  But the fact is that this asshole has
>chosen to promote his product, which may be very fine, by attacking mine
>with false and misleading comments.  I will address these pissant comments
>below:


I will answer your points below.  I have not attacked anything, just pointed
out the facts.  Sorry if this hurts your sales.  And since our card is
issued by the LARGEST BANK in their jurisdiction, what's the problem?  YOU
ARE THE GUY TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO BUY A COMPANY CARD THAT BY CONTRACT
BELONGS TO YOU!

>
>
>On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:05:41 -0600, Destiny Worldwide wrote:
>
>>  I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but since Glencannon pointed
out
>>  what he thought was a problem with our system, let me pount out a couple
>>  with his.
>>
>>  1.  His website states that he is in Belize, yet he gives an address in
>>  Texas to mail the applications.  Obviusly, then, the address in Belize
is
>a
>>  maildrop.  What this means is that when you send yoru documents to him,
>they
>>  are sotred onshore, where BB can seize them anytime they want.  Your
>>  identity is not safe!
>
>The mail drop is in Houston, and documents are forwarded to me wherever I
>may be, Belize, the Dominican Republic, or sometimes Houston.  But no
doubt,


Oh, so if there is a problem, don't bother looking for you because you are
on the lam -- er.. on the go all the time.  It's is obvious that this is
a one man show.  We, on the other hand, are an established company with
offices, employees, etc...

>there is a possibility of interception.  I never claimed this was some kind
>of safe way to do "money launderying."  If that is what you need you might


Who said anything about money laundering?  That is a viscius ad homanim
argument and a logical fallacy.  People can send orders to a place where we
really are.  Anyway, there is no proof that this is a maildrop, just your
word.  And no one knows if you are really the globetrotter you claim, or
just some guy working in his basement in Houston.

>want to go elsewhere.  What I am providing is a convenient way of giving a
>service.  Take it or leave it.


Yeah, real conventient.  And THEIR CARD IS IN YOUR COMPANY NAME!  How
convenient for you!

>
>>
>>  2.  Same for the bank.  If the bank they are ever using rolls over and
>rats
>>  you out, then you are screwed.  The only way to prevent this is if the
>bnak
>>  does not know who you are.
>>
>
>This is utter Bullshit, but would go for any bank out there.  This bank in
>particular is a very safe and sound bank in a very safe and sound
>jurisdiction.  I have been doing business with it and others in this
>jurisdiction, and it will no more "rat you out" than the rat who wrote this
>email.
>

that's what people thought with Guardian Trust, too, but if the bank doens't
know who you are, then they CAN'T RAT ON YOU, CAN THEY?  Even if the
jurisdiction changes it's laws under OECD  or FATF preassure.  So, you have
this guy's assurances versus the FACTS!

>
>>  3.  What are his fees for the transfers from egold to the card?  He does
>not
>>  disclose this, but our fees are clearly stated on our website.  If you
>are
>>  just transferring from egold to the card, then you will look in the
>>  passthrough category of our fe

[e-gold-list] Re: Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer you might not noitice

2000-11-15 Thread Glencannon Group Ltd.

I generally don't like to talk bad about people, but this fellow is full of
shit.  I never spoke ill of whoever "Destiny Worldwide" is and I have no
particular problems with their system as I HAVE NO INFORMATION ABOUT IT. 
Now a little less than a month I asked if people would be interested in
this, and I would put it together.  This is waht I have done.  I don't
appreciate the tone of this message, but I will let people judge for
themselves.  I do not claim that this is ANONYMOUS, and I do not claim it is
a high security vehicle.  If that is what you want and need, contact me and
I'll give you some advice.  I do not advise the use of ANONYMOUS accounts as
most of these are run by crooks who either run off with the funds inthe
accounts, or get caught because they are breaking the laws in the
jurisdiction in which they operate.  But the fact is that this asshole has
chosen to promote his product, which may be very fine, by attacking mine
with false and misleading comments.  I will address these pissant comments
below:


On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:05:41 -0600, Destiny Worldwide wrote:

>  I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but since Glencannon pointed out
>  what he thought was a problem with our system, let me pount out a couple
>  with his.
>  
>  1.  His website states that he is in Belize, yet he gives an address in
>  Texas to mail the applications.  Obviusly, then, the address in Belize is
a
>  maildrop.  What this means is that when you send yoru documents to him,
they
>  are sotred onshore, where BB can seize them anytime they want.  Your
>  identity is not safe!

The mail drop is in Houston, and documents are forwarded to me wherever I
may be, Belize, the Dominican Republic, or sometimes Houston.  But no doubt,
there is a possibility of interception.  I never claimed this was some kind
of safe way to do "money launderying."  If that is what you need you might
want to go elsewhere.  What I am providing is a convenient way of giving a
service.  Take it or leave it.

>  
>  2.  Same for the bank.  If the bank they are ever using rolls over and
rats
>  you out, then you are screwed.  The only way to prevent this is if the
bnak
>  does not know who you are.
>

This is utter Bullshit, but would go for any bank out there.  This bank in
particular is a very safe and sound bank in a very safe and sound
jurisdiction.  I have been doing business with it and others in this
jurisdiction, and it will no more "rat you out" than the rat who wrote this
email.

  
>  3.  What are his fees for the transfers from egold to the card?  He does
not
>  disclose this, but our fees are clearly stated on our website.  If you
are
>  just transferring from egold to the card, then you will look in the
>  passthrough category of our fee shcedule, plus add the wire transfer
fee,a
>  nd that is it.  OUR FEES ARE THE LOWEST I HAVE SEEN FOR THIS ANYWHERE
>  OFFSHORE!  So, when you figure this in, even though our card costs more
up
>  front, it is actually cheaper in the end if you use it very much.

Currently fees are going to be flat rate $20.00 per transaction, minimum
transaction $1,000.00.  Of course this is subject to change.  The terms and
conditions are in the written application, which I did not include in my
short little email.


>  
>  4.  Don't be fooled.  You are categorized as an employee of the company,
and
>  therefore the company OWNS AND CONTROLS THE CARDS!  they can do ANYTHING
>  THEY WANT TO WITH THEM anytime they want and you can't do anything about
it
>  legally even if they run away with all the money.  Our cards belong to
YOU
>  and are issued directly by the bank, and you can send your funds yourself
>  direclty to the bank if you desire.

And this is absolute CRAP.  Untrue.  This is an independent card account. 
The "Company" will have no access to the money in that account once it is
deposited.  It is only designated as an "Employee" account as that is the
way most employees are paid in this jurisdiction.  Any Payee can be
designated.



>  
>  There are probably other things I could think of, but for lack of time I
>  will leave it at that.  Our card is TOTALLY ANONYMOUS.  The bank doesn't
>  even know who you are, so they can never rat you out even if ordered to!


I am very suspicious of TOTALLY ANONYMOUS cards and accounts as almost no
jurisdiction happily tolerates them.  What you POSSIBLY are getting is an
account with a flaky institution that may be run out of somebodies bedroom. 
That is the way most people get caught.  The last time I heard of one of
these gigs was a Doctor in San Antonio, Texas who was running an "offshore
bank" out of his house.  When the feds hit him, he sang like a bird and
"ratted" out several hundred innocent clients.  Or maybe you are dealing
with a legitimate bank that has somehow managed to convince the jurisdiction
in which it operates that anonymous is ok.  There are ways of "becoming"
anonymous, and that will work better than an "ANONYMOUS" account, unless of
course y

[e-gold-list] Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer you might not noitice

2000-11-15 Thread Destiny Worldwide

I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but since Glencannon pointed out
what he thought was a problem with our system, let me pount out a couple
with his.

1.  His website states that he is in Belize, yet he gives an address in
Texas to mail the applications.  Obviusly, then, the address in Belize is a
maildrop.  What this means is that when you send yoru documents to him, they
are sotred onshore, where BB can seize them anytime they want.  Your
identity is not safe!

2.  Same for the bank.  If the bank they are ever using rolls over and rats
you out, then you are screwed.  The only way to prevent this is if the bnak
does not know who you are.

3.  What are his fees for the transfers from egold to the card?  He does not
disclose this, but our fees are clearly stated on our website.  If you are
just transferring from egold to the card, then you will look in the
passthrough category of our fee shcedule, plus add the wire transfer fee,a
nd that is it.  OUR FEES ARE THE LOWEST I HAVE SEEN FOR THIS ANYWHERE
OFFSHORE!  So, when you figure this in, even though our card costs more up
front, it is actually cheaper in the end if you use it very much.

4.  Don't be fooled.  You are categorized as an employee of the company, and
therefore the company OWNS AND CONTROLS THE CARDS!  they can do ANYTHING
THEY WANT TO WITH THEM anytime they want and you can't do anything about it
legally even if they run away with all the money.  Our cards belong to YOU
and are issued directly by the bank, and you can send your funds yourself
direclty to the bank if you desire.

There are probably other things I could think of, but for lack of time I
will leave it at that.  Our card is TOTALLY ANONYMOUS.  The bank doesn't
even know who you are, so they can never rat you out even if ordered to!

Also, we are located OFFSHORE, so we don't have to release your records to
ANYONE without an order form the local government here, and THEY WILL NOT DO
SO WITHOUT HARD EVIDENCE THAT YOU HAVE COMMITTED A CRIME IN THIS COUNTRY!
Since you do NOT reside in Costa Rica, it is therefore almost IMPOSSIBLE for
you to have committed a crime here.   It takes a long time to get such a
court order in this country anyway, so you are much safer dealing with us
than with someone operating out of Texas in the Nazi States of America,
where they can break down their door anytime they want on mere SUSPICION.

Check out our site and see for yourself.  Sure, our card is more expesive up
front, but the value and savings are realized as you use it!

John
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From: e-gold Discussion digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 10:42 PM
Subject: e-gold-list digest: November 14, 2000


>Subject: Gold Funded Debit Cards Available
>From: "Glencannon Group Ltd." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:43:28 -0800 (PST)
>X-Message-Number: 5
>
>Gold Funded Debit Card
>
>We are pleased to announce that Glencannon Group Ltd, in association with
>Genucap Resources, LLC, is now offering Gold Funded Debit Cards. These
Debit
>Cards are currently only available for individuals, and denominated in US
>dollars.  They are issued by a Latvian Bank which believes in
>confidentiality.  The holders of the cards will be treated as "employees"
of
>Genucap Resources, LLC, a Nevis Limited Liability Company.
>
>To obtain your own Gold Funded Debit Card from Genucap Resources, LLC,
>please provide the following:
>
>1.  Name of Card Holder:
>
>2.  Mailing Address of Card Holder:
>
>3.  A notarized copy of Card Holder's identification (Passport, Driver's
>License, etc.)  Will be held confidentially by bank.
>
>4. $500.00 in e-gold deposited into E-gold account # 199145.  This will
>provide for the $250.00 processing fee and the initial deposit of $250.00
>into the card account.
>
>Mail the above information and copies to:
>Glencannon Group Ltd.
>5380 W. 43rd Street, # 149
>Houston, TX 77092
>
>When all information is received, and deposit verified, application will be
>processed through bank.  Please provide 2 to 6 weeks for delivery.  Notify
>us immediately if there is a change of address as card's will be forwarded
>directly to the address provided in application.
>
>If insufficient application are received, Glencannon Group Ltd. and Genucap
>Resources, LLC reserve the right to refund all funds with no further
>liability.
>
>NOTE: All present and future transfers will be denominated in grams of
gold,
>which will then be transferred into currency by a third party Market Maker.
>The amount that will be deposited in currency into the card account will be
>based upon the Market Maker's rate of exchange, which will change from time
>to

[e-gold-list] Re: How to specify merchant ref number in e-gold?

2000-11-15 Thread Khurram Khan



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> wrote:

>

>I know that e-gold now allows merchants to specify a merchant ref

>number, and search for it in the history.  How do I specify this

>number?



Ther Merchant reference number is the same as the  field

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[e-gold-list] Re: www.exchangepath.com: a safer alternative to paypal?

2000-11-15 Thread PECB

There is one big problem with this system, for high volume merchants -- a daily
withdrawl limit of $500. A high volume merchant could easily take in more sales
in a month than he/she would be able to withdraw from "Exchange Path" in
several years.

PECB
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www.gold-age.net

Erich wrote:

> They seem to offer the same kind of service that paypal does, but with
> a few enhancements: they guarantee that the payments will not be
> subject to chargeback (according to the FAQ), and also, no identity is
> required to open an account.  Of course, you need a credit card to get
> money into or out of the system, but you only need an email addr to be
> able to send and receive money within the system.
>
> The fact that the service is free means that they must be making money
> on float, which is something they forgot to mention on their site, so
> I do have some questions about how financially sound they are, but it
> still seems like a cool service, and maybe some of the exchange
> providers might want to start using it.
>
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