[e-gold-list] borrowing from e-gold

2000-12-27 Thread Galina Ulanova

How do I go about borrowing metal from e-gold?



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[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold / SR ??

2000-12-27 Thread major bosco


This is a very interesting question and one which many may not really
undersand. Standard Reserve does not re-issue E-Gold. Rather, Standard
Reserve holds E-Gold as the asset backing Standard Gold. In doing this,
Standard Reserve has a far more liquid asset than E-Gold making it
possible to handle that asset in a different manner than E-Gold.


OK -- I agree, now I am confused.  So,, SR uses e-gold as asset backing for 
their currency yet that is not the same as re-issuing e-gold?  If SR gold 
has nothing behind it but e-gold, SR is simply e-gold with a different name, 
as without e-gold there can be no SRG.

Also -- how can SRG be more liquid than e-gold, when e-gold is the backing 
for SRG?  If e-gold suddenly loses liquidity, then SRG loses liquidity 
entirely.


The unique-ness of Standard Gold is that its asset, in that it is "gold
money", can be held as money in its E-Gold account, or a portion of it
could be held as a security, and so on.
This takes the world of "gold
money" a step further towards providing a wide range of financial services
to customers, including providing loans, paying interest where a person
elects to hold their value in an account where the asset can be loaned
etc.

Uhh,, this sounds kind of like the e-metal version of the Banking fractional 
reserve deposit system?  Does this mean that SR endorses forward selling and 
short selling of its asset (e-gold)?

currency. On the other hand, E-Gold may be more attractive to some,
because of its 100% gold backing. It depends upon your perspective in the
future which "gold" you want to hold


Hmm,, I defer to your wisdom as this statement clearly confuses me (again)-- 
are you trying to tell us that e-gold is 100% backed by gold and SRG is not? 
  if so, please elaborate how that could be since the asset backing SRG is 
e-gold and e-gold is supposed to be 100% backed by metal?

I am new to this e-metal business and researching the products before making 
my plunge.  This is one issue that bothers me -- the statment that e-gold is 
100% backed by gold?  This seems improbable to me because;

1) The only assurance we have that there is real metal backing is the 
examiner page -- which is administered by e-gold personnel only (guess you 
just have to believe!)

2)I do not see where e-gold has ever submitted to an audit of the reserves?  
does this bother no-one else?

3)If e-gold were 100% backed by metal -- how could e-gold possibly have 
enough liquidity cash to handle the daily outexchanging and conversion of 
metal to fiat currency (without selling and buying metal daily -- and this 
obviously is not done since the numbers on the examiner page would flucuate 
in proportion).  If the examiner were true to form -- e-gold would have to 
have a section listing the amount of cash held in reserve also - and they do 
not.

4) None of this would bother me so much if there was a contact page or 
number for e-gold's escrow agent, however I do not see anything but the name 
of a large Multinational Bank listed.


Best Wishes,

John Bosco
USA - Retired.


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[e-gold-list] Re: BUY ANYTHING ONLINE WITH e-gold

2000-12-27 Thread David Hillary

why doesn't some enterprising person set up a business out-exchannging
e-gold directly with online retailers and negotiate discounts with
retailers based on a secure and guaranteed prompt payment and the
additional business it would bring the retailers? If the business can
get adequate discounts, this can offset in-exchange costs of e-gold
users, making e-gold much more viable for users. It would also increase
the number of goods and services e-gold could purchase and therefore the
viability of using e-gold.

David Hillary

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[e-gold-list] Re: borrowing from e-gold

2000-12-27 Thread Michael Moore

e-gold does not lend metal  so you cannot borrow from e-gold.

You might find someone who will lend you some of their gold.

Although i doubt it.



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 How do I go about borrowing metal from e-gold?



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[e-gold-list] E-Gold IS Backed by Gold

2000-12-27 Thread Craig Haynie

For those interested in verifying that e-gold really IS backed by gold,
check out this agreement which outlines the role of their escrow agent,
which is the agent assigned the role of overseeing the gold held in the
E-Gold Bullion Reserve, Special Purpose Trust:

http://www.e-gold.com/contracts/escrowagentagr.pdf

Notice that the president of Central Escrow Agency, LTD is also the Vice
President of the Central Fund of Canada:

www.centralfund.com

The Central Fund of Canada has maintained a gold-fund traded on the American
Stock Exchange under the symbol CEF, for 40+ years.

Sincerely,

Craig





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[e-gold-list] Re: FW: I want some too!!

2000-12-27 Thread Erich

 As the first payer in the new Glencannon HY scheme, you QUALIFY for or
 EXTRA SPECIAL SUPER DOOPER EXCLUSIVE ONLY ONCE BRILLIANT OFFER!!! Now
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Oh yeah, I'm sure you think you're special, I've got something even
better!  An absolutely once-in-eternity offer to participate in a
hyper-matrix forced downline get-paid-to-get-rich-instantly
lose-30-lbs-in-30-days mega-yield program, which will allow you to
earn returns on your investment which are so high that they can't even
be quantified using ordinary numbers!  Er, I mean, actually, they're
not that high, and are actually about 2% PA these days...  And the
program isn't that exclusive, because anyone with a web browser can
sign up at www.metalsavings.com.

I can't describe how frustrating it is that all these scams seem to
have no trouble attracting these huge deposits, but when someone makes
reasonable claims ("you won't get rich, but you will get 2% PA")
everyone is skeptical.  I guess an appeal to greed is more effective
than an appeal to reason, in the short term.

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[e-gold-list] Re: borrowing from e-gold

2000-12-27 Thread Dagny Taggart

If e-gold does not lend e-gold, how do they explain
negative balances in 
some accounts?

On the public balance page there is one account with 
a balance of negative 7.7 oz of silver.
I wonder how many other accounts with negative
balances there are and 
how that is reflected on the examiner.

Is e-gold always backed 100% by precious metals and
has it been in the past?
Is this only a claim they make?

Sounds to me like there is some lending going on?




-- Michael Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 e-gold does not lend metal  so you cannot borrow

 from e-gold.
 
 You might find someone who will lend you some of
 their gold.
 
 Although i doubt it.
 
 
  How do I go about borrowing metal from e-gold?



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[e-gold-list] Re: borrowing from e-gold

2000-12-27 Thread Craig Haynie


 If e-gold does not lend e-gold, how do they explain
 negative balances in
 some accounts?

Accounts are charged a fee of 1/12th of 1 percent of its average daily
balance each month. If the account is cleared out before the end of the
month, then this fee will still be applied to an account with a zero
balance, for that month, resulting in a negative balance.

There is no other way to drive an e-gold account negative, as I understand
it.

For those interested in the E-Gold LTD / Escrow agreement, check it out
here. E-Gold is backed 100% by gold, at all times.

http://www.e-gold.com/contracts/escrowagentagr.pdf

Craig



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[e-gold-list] Re: BUY ANYTHING ONLINE WITH e-gold

2000-12-27 Thread George Matyjewicz

At 08:33 AM 12/27/2000 +1100, David Hillary wrote:
why doesn't some enterprising person set up a business out-exchannging
e-gold directly with online retailers and negotiate discounts with
retailers based on a secure and guaranteed prompt payment and the
additional business it would bring the retailers? If the business can
get adequate discounts, this can offset in-exchange costs of e-gold
users, making e-gold much more viable for users. It would also increase
the number of goods and services e-gold could purchase and therefore the
viability of using e-gold.

What a great idea.  Lower per transaction fees, plus immediate 
settlement of accounts.

George

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[e-gold-list] Advertising

2000-12-27 Thread Bob

Bearerinstruments.com intends to provide a rotating banner
ad at the bottom of it's home page. There's an example there
now:
http://www.bearerinstruments.com/
Info is at:
http://www.bearerinstruments.com/html/advertising.html

If anybody has a suggestion before programing begins,
please send it to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[e-gold-list] Paul Volcker

2000-12-27 Thread Bob

"A global economy requires a global
currency."   
 Dr. Paul Volcker, *former* Chairman of the Board of 
 Governors of the Federal Reserve

Hey Paul, it's happening.

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[e-gold-list] Re: BUY ANYTHING ONLINE WITH e-gold

2000-12-27 Thread jpm

At 08:33 AM 12/27/2000 +1100, David Hillary wrote:
why doesn't some enterprising person set up a business out-exchannging
e-gold directly with online retailers and negotiate discounts with
retailers based on a secure and guaranteed prompt payment and the
additional business it would bring the retailers?

*wave*

http://www.bananagold.com

unfortunately, Amazon just won't even think about discounting unless 
you spend vast amounts of money per year (millions).  (Quite 
reasonably, considering they are teetering on the edge of bankruptcy.)

As far as I'm aware, amazon.com is the only realistic online retailer 
(are there any others that do serious business?)

Banana gold is really just set up as a charity to promote egold.  It 
is unconceivable it could ever recover development costs.

A very complex little robot!

I notice BANANAGOLD is popular with Aussies and New Zealanders 
lately!  Rock on!  Enjoy it!


If the business can
get adequate discounts, this can offset in-exchange costs of e-gold
users, making e-gold much more viable for users. It would also increase
the number of goods and services e-gold could purchase and therefore the
viability of using e-gold.

What a great idea.  Lower per transaction fees, plus immediate 
settlement of accounts.

George

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[e-gold-list] Re: Paul Volcker

2000-12-27 Thread George Matyjewicz

At 08:38 PM 12/27/2000 -0500, Bob wrote:
"A global economy requires a global
currency."
  Dr. Paul Volcker, *former* Chairman of the Board of
  Governors of the Federal Reserve

Where did this quote appear?

George


Hey Paul, it's happening.

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[e-gold-list] Japan

2000-12-27 Thread Bob

From IBD's Dec. 27 issue:

"Japan's Jobless Rate Up, Household Spending Down"

In more signs that Japan's economic recovery is slowing, the 
country's jobless rate hit an eight-month high. Household 
spending and retail sales fell, dashing hopes consumer spending 
would help the rebound. Retail sales fell for the 44th straight 
month, dropping 0.7% year over year in November. House-hold 
spending fell 2.3% year over year. With big corporate 
bankruptcies and weak stock prices, spending is unlikely to 
improve, analysts predicted." - "More on A9"

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[e-gold-list] China

2000-12-27 Thread Bob

From IBD's Dec. 27 issue:

"China hopes to spur Internet use by slashing long-distance rates"

Plans to cut long-distance telephone rates more than 50%
would hurt revenue for China's dominant state-owned carrier. 
But it should also spur new Internet and telecom industries, 
state media said. The changes also cut charges for Internet 
access and leased lines. State media described the cuts as 
the biggest change for Chinese phone bills in 51 years of 
communist rules. Charges should fall by some $3.6 billion 
a year."

Other for IBD:

"China's GDP will grow 7-8% next year because state-owned
firms will keep improving efficiency and consumer spending 
will rise, the China Business Times said, citing government
reports."

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[e-gold-list] Re: Paul Volcker

2000-12-27 Thread George Matyjewicz

At 09:14 PM 12/27/2000 -0500, Bob wrote:
George Matyjewicz wrote:
 
  At 08:38 PM 12/27/2000 -0500, Bob wrote:
  "A global economy requires a global
  currency."
Dr. Paul Volcker, *former* Chairman of the Board of
Governors of the Federal Reserve
 
  Where did this quote appear?

http://www.fame.org/

Thanks.  I also searched on Google, and found other 
references.  Seems it was published in the NY Times in 
February.  Also, here is a nice article 
http://www.usagold.com/gildedopinion/mundellprague.html 
"Exchange Rates, Currency Areas and the International Financial 
Architecture " by Dr. Robert A. Mundell, Columbia University -- 
1999 Nobel Laureate.  Remarks delivered at an IMF panel, 
September 22, 2000, Prague, Czech Republic.

George
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