[e-gold-list] Re: Public Apology
As far as I am concerned, Eric is one of the best Market Makers that I have dealt with. Being in Indonesia, I have had him wire me funds and he was very fast. Each time he sent me a wire, he told me that it would be "X" days and it was. I have talked with Eric on the phone once I have sent the email info within several minutes of sending it and again, I was impressed as he had already had the info. One thing for sure is that Eric is not sleeping on the JOB. Thank Eric, more coming soon, MIKE - Original Message - From: "Eric Gaither, Gaithman's E-Gold Exchange" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 3:52 AM Subject: [e-gold-list] Public Apology Anyone/Everyone: Eric Gaither of Gaithman's Gold Exchange, Inc. here. I wanted to take a brief moment to apologize for posting the Public Apology on this discussion list a few days ago. As of today, I have yet to receive a SINGLE complaint from any past or present clients. My offer to reimburse ANYONE offended by my or my company's behavior has had not a single request! I appreciate the large show of support that was generated in response want to thank all of you for your comments. It appears the opinions I spoke of are, in fact, that of a single individual. (My guess all along!) I stand by my assertion that keeping each other informed as to the level of service provided by the individual Market Makers is great discussion material! Stay informed and stay ahead! Respectfully, Eric Gaither, President Gaithman's Gold Exchange, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: GoldPouchExpress fund e-gold account fast by Visa for 13%
Albert schreef: GPE does not exept Master Card (Dutch, ABN/AMRO). So, to me, their service is not so great. What they handle (Visa), they handle well. What they don't handle, is opportunity for other market makers. Chandra --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] A Proposal to Deregulate Banking
By Hugh Thomas, on the Cato Institute's site: "Banks are the most highly regulated industry in the economy today ... " Right. The banking system is the means through which a government creates money out of thin air and expands and contracts credit in the economy. But sooner or later a government ends up between a rock and a hard place because of this power/control over an industry that is abused. It's usually the average Tom Dick and Harry that takes the fall. http://www.cato.org/pubs/journal/cj20n2/cj20n2.html Bob "Speculators will prosper. Capital will suffer and pull away preferring to hoard its assets in an atmosphere of certainty. But the wage earner will endure the worst for he cannot place his labour offshore nor can he hoard his labour in fear of volatility, political uncertainty and devaluation." - Martin Armstrong -- http://www.bearerinstruments.com A Directory of Web sites and Internet presences accepting non-fiat monies. http://www.bearerinstruments.com/assets/BIMDsPGPkey.txt 650C 51DA 734F 697F 5706 3D6A 7712 BCC9 D1AE 00BA --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] New Tracking Numbers
Hello! Your Tracking Numbers are GREAT idea. However, they're impossible to type in. Wouldn't it be easier just to type in the batch number and the e-gold account number? Craig --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Chess
I have decided to take on the Chess project. Magnificent Vince! Good luck! http://bananagold.com would be happy to add a five gram reward to Jim's reward the first day you can play for gold as Jim described! Any others??! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Chess
At 10:16 PM +1100 2/1/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have decided to take on the Chess project. Magnificent Vince! Good luck! http://bananagold.com would be happy to add a five gram reward to Jim's reward the first day you can play for gold as Jim described! Vince and JP, this is awesome news! (The only problem with world- wide play is that many of the Russians I've met can wipe me out!). I am sure to get lots of enjoyment out of this, as will my brother (who also regularly beats me...hmmm.). I of course volunteer to help Vince implement this fantasy. Those of you who know me well know that often my days end with games for grams, and back in the early days of the Stats page that spend resulting from those games might occasionally push the number of e-metal spends in 24 hours from one to (gasp!) two digits. Times change. The history of computer-programming for chess is interesting, and I have VIVID memories of a first encounter with Fidelity Electronics' "Chess Challenger" in high school...Let's just say it didn't do much for my grades that week... Anyway, I can't say what a thrill this is, I ask for something and it happens because of the talent here! You guys are great, and I'm sure this is worth more than 7 (plus 5! Thanks Banana!!) grams. I will be very happy the day JP I get to make those spends. JMR --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] ultimate ?
What are your thoughts? Think outside the box. We are talking about the ultimate system. George The ultimate system would be retailers on the street, who will take cash (or, subject to the usual delays/costs, credit cards and cheques) for e-gold. You know all those god damn cellphone hole-in-the-wall mini-retailers for instance? Those boys could sell e-gold as a sideline. Or the foreign exchange hole-in-the-wall retailers (not seen in the US). Or indeed I suppose just banks. The ultimate would be if you could go into Wells Fargo and say "I'd like to buy 500 of e-gold today" and they'd just move the money around and sell you e-gold, or you could give them cash and they would. Or post offices - Giros. The ultimate-ultimate system would be if egold was so popular that almost all banks were integrated with it -- that is, you could stop at your ATM and press a button and buy egold with cash. ATM Menu of the Future: * get cash * account statement * buy e-gold * transfer money Wouldn't that be good? --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] A New Idea
Hello! Consider the idea to increase the e-gold Exchange Rate to 2 percentage points ABOVE SPOT. These effects should be derived: 1) The price to purchase e-gold would fall about 2 percentage points with respect to the SPEND rate. This would effectively make e-gold CHEAPER for CONSUMERS who wish to purchase some item priced in a National Currency. 2) New gold coming into the system would basically be sold 'at cost', so Exchange Services would have to drop their OutExchange rates about 2% BELOW the e-gold SPEND rate to keep their profit margins up. If OutExchange rates would fall about 2 % below the SPEND rate, SELLERS would see this increase in their costs, but they have control over their prices and the costs of other payment services would still be higher and carry the risk of a charge back. 3) Those buying gold to hold as an asset would see the same spreads. 4) Those pricing their items in AUG could adjust their prices accordingly with no effective change. It seems that E-Gold EXCELS at providing a safe, secure, risk-free payment system, however it is cost-prohibitive for consumers -- but only by a small margin -- and as this past year has shown us, payment systems are consumer driven. Therefore a small drop in the price could make e-gold a more viable payment system for consumer merchandise. Craig --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Chess
At 10:16 PM +1100 2/1/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have decided to take on the Chess project. Magnificent Vince! Good luck! http://bananagold.com would be happy to add a five gram reward to Jim's reward the first day you can play for gold as Jim described! Vince and JP, this is awesome news! (The only problem with world- wide play is that many of the Russians I've met can wipe me out!). I am sure to get lots of enjoyment out of this, as will my brother (who also regularly beats me...hmmm.). I of course volunteer to help Vince implement this fantasy. Those of you who know me well know that often my days end with games for grams, and back in the early days of the Stats page that spend resulting from those games might occasionally push the number of e-metal spends in 24 hours from one to (gasp!) two digits. Times change. The history of computer-programming for chess is interesting, and I have VIVID memories of a first encounter with Fidelity Electronics' "Chess Challenger" in high school...Let's just say it didn't do much for my grades that week... Anyway, I can't say what a thrill this is, I ask for something and it happens because of the talent here! You guys are great, and I'm sure this is worth more than 7 (plus 5! Thanks Banana!!) grams. I will be very happy the day JP I get to make those spends. JMR Jim just gave me an incredible idea to increase your profits, Vince! Make it so that FAKE HUMANS (actually computer players!) sit there wanting a game! hahahah! it would mean that when someone comes looking for a game, there is always an opponent, so you collect more board fees!!! haha! Just add a little lame bot technology so it makes some comments now and then (feign non-English speaking to account for limited chatting) And check this out -- THE COMPUTER WOULD TYPICALLY WIN, so you collect the actual game bet as well! Hahahahahah! :) sneaky JP --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Chess
Make it so that FAKE HUMANS (actually computer players!) sit there wanting a game! hahahah! it would mean that when someone comes looking for a game, there is always an opponent, so you collect more board fees!!! haha! Just add a little lame bot technology so it makes some comments now and then (feign non-English speaking to account for limited chatting) And check this out -- THE COMPUTER WOULD TYPICALLY WIN, so you collect the actual game bet as well! Hahahahahah! Excellent Idea! Craig --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Chess
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- yo! i'll contribute 10 grams to that reward! and in fact, if you trust me to be the custodian of a reward account, here is a publicly viewable chess for gold reward account - with 10 grams seeded in it already: http://www.e-gold.com/pub-bal.asp?pubid=247847 paid to first worthy online chess for gold game implementor. contribute away! and then watch out for my dragon defense! jay w. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bananagold.com would be happy to add a five gram reward to Jim's reward the first day you can play for gold as Jim described! Any others??! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.5.3 iQEVAwUBOnlfIsyM0YPqVE7FAQHxgAf9EaX72enK3aoQfKSC+GnMiTr+KdomBGeP Z0vu3tQHN1qcBT7FoxbrgcYo66wcCF1lwq/VuynKhzFJ2/EG7e0DuPMFJC6JPir2 0ShYEyljYeNzGuXHODZwLCOZ3gNUTkSn85fHJRZol7Wd+1KzXZQLhtt9NbQZDGZv 0ulgu1t4szB9xzlDGUyUrHQ7P4+6x/rxGRYICg4Y9YNUffVs1osnP4niz4Sa+brx hfbAYFZnCon1OOGuZwPTkTieiolcTE4U3xw/Kh8JX+RaBQQG8K772+n06/KY5va5 rkwgTqoMUndVLzpKVs4s+35E9az/Q/FIvWMBMZyyCLXrqeQ9WhgGGQ== =uPb1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Opportunities (was Re: GoldPouchExpress fund e-gold account fast by Visa for 13%
Out of curiosity, in your opinion, what would be the best method of funding accounts? Let's assume somebody wanted to develop the ultimate funding system, what would work? This idea is less direct, maybe even a little sneaky... but more convenient for a consumer. Instead of the potential user send in money, have them send in a good or service or 'win' a simple contest or something. In other words we offer to pay for everything coming our way with e-gold (that we mark up 10% to cover our costs). We sell it as a convenience: "Hey, would you like payment in e-gold, a great system that does this and that. The only bummer is waiting for money to clear to fund an account, and we solve the hassle for you! Oh good, lets just make an account now, and I'll show you the spend feature." JPM's ATM is better though could we do a little white hat hacking ;) That would be really funny. Duhhh, why don't we just get together and buy an ATM company and have e-gold and cash ATM's. Dagnabit, I wish I have more time! jf --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] RE: Opportunities
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 George, thanks for bringing up interesting topic. The present concept - open an account, go to an agent or market maker and fund your account, wait days until your funds clear, and pay high fees for this privilege - seems contrary to doing business. Or am I guilty of thinking like a typical US-centric person. Yes you are! Some countries (let's take Estonia for example ;-)) have very strong Internet-banks enabling quick transfers between accounts and banks on national level. Thanks to that our fastest exchange took 10 minutes (time between customer registering order at our site and when we made the spend to his account) and there was no bank fee involved. One can make also miracles with services like Western Union and MoneyGram, but there the fee is of course pretty big. We'll be accepting MoneyGram soon and will try to fund the account within few hours after receiving the money. There is still one but - not all days are business days and our staff is use to sleep at night :-) The ultimate method would be of course cash to e-gold. Only problem is that even if there would be several millions of e-gold and SR customers, you still wouldn't have enough customers near you to make this business work with profit. What are your thoughts? Think outside the box. We are talking about the ultimate system. About thinking outside of the box: let's think why we are here in the first place! Why there is e-gold and SR-gold? Because there wasn't no fast, cheap and reliable way in the world to send money internationally and locally. And that is one of the reasons e-gold was created and now you can send money fast, cheap and reliably to anyone who bothers to open up an account. Here's my thoughts. Regards, _ Paul Vahur [EMAIL PROTECTED] The New Economy needs new currencies IceGold Ltd. | http://www.IceGold.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOnla5kkfcBeFLocdEQK4WQCfaMT+vDliOd9Bn7iaSOEY6LR8hckAmwZ9 H8Q7gMHaMvpK1gBDhwN2U/eS =9buK -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Is this a schedule down time for E-Gold?
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[e-gold-list] Re: New Tracking Numbers
hello craig, re:omnipay tracking numbers the only downside to that simpler approach is that people could easily guess valid exchange operations and get a general idea of what activity other accounts are performing. with an unpredictable tracking number, that becomes nigh on impossible. hopefully most of the time you click the tracking link, or cut and paste the number. i guess it could be shorter than it currently is, or have separators (space, hyphen etc). anyone else have an opinion on tracking numbers? jay w. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your Tracking Numbers are GREAT idea. However, they're impossible to type in. Wouldn't it be easier just to type in the batch number and the e-gold account number? --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Opportunities (was Re: GoldPouchExpress fund e-gold account fast by Visa for 13%
What are your thoughts? Think outside the box. We are talking about the ultimate system. [DeLurking...] What about a 1-900-GET-GOLD funding method. I call the number from the phone I wish to have charged for the call. A recording prompts me for an E-Gold account number. I verify the account number with a yes or no. Then 100 dollars worth of Gold are spent to the account and charged to my phone bill. Done. Hank [...Back into Lurking] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] E-gold VISA ?
I just discovered an interesting company issuing offshore VISA debit cards that are linked with an e-gold account (not linked directly but you can fund your VISA account using E-gold!!!) Visit for more details : http://now1card.com/members/bulldog9.shtml --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Opportunities (was Re: GoldPouchExpress fund e-gold account fast by Visa for 13%
Hello! [DeLurking...] What about a 1-900-GET-GOLD funding method. I call the number from the phone I wish to have charged for the call. A recording prompts me for an E-Gold account number. I verify the account number with a yes or no. Then 100 dollars worth of Gold are spent to the account and charged to my phone bill. Done. No disrespect intended, but here's the problem: Mr. Scammer buys $2000 of e-gold with this method. Then, at the end of the month, after he gets his phone bill, he calls the phone company and claims he never made the call. Of course not! No legitimate operation would charge $2000 for a phone call! Craig --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] 1-900-GET-GOLD [was:Re: Opportunities...]
At 12:27 PM -0500 2/1/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... [DeLurking...] What about a 1-900-GET-GOLD funding method. ... I investigated this a while ago, and found that the payments were repudiable, so the question would be how much repudiation could you take and still get a decent profit, along with how could you automate it, at least for repeat customers, so that it's making a profit while you amuse yourself in other ways. I'm sure it's doable for small quantities of gold at a high-enough markup, so I hope it happens, but I can imagine many fraud-possibilities. Imagine the babysitter's boyfriend getting access to your phone... What I can't understand is why more merchants don't take full advantage of phone spends http://pcs.e-gold.com/demo.html since in-person is the ideal way to do exchanges. I'm lucky to be close to more than one seller/buyer of e-metals. :) JMR --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Chess
Make it so that FAKE HUMANS (actually computer players!) sit there wanting a game! hahahah! it would mean that when someone comes looking for a game, there is always an opponent, so you collect more board fees!!! haha! Just add a little lame bot technology so it makes some comments now and then (feign non-English speaking to account for limited chatting) And check this out -- THE COMPUTER WOULD TYPICALLY WIN, so you collect the actual game bet as well! Hahahahahah! ROTFLMHO MAN JP, you're a hoot!!! Well said! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] From Russia worldwide with e-gold!
Russian electronic shop http://www.russiashop.com.ru with e-gold account is open. Welcome! From Russia worldwide with e-gold! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] U.N. seeks to tax international currency trades
Subject: ip: Fwd: Fw: U.N. seeks to tax international currency trades Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 06:42:05 -0800 From: "R. A. Hettinga" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Digital Bearer Settlement List [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- begin forwarded text Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 01:36:07 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Kepi [EMAIL PROTECTED] (by way of [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Subject: ip: Fwd: Fw: U.N. seeks to tax international currency trades From: "Les" address suppressed Subject: Fw: U.N. seeks to tax international currency trades Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:26:19 -0800 - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Charleston Voice Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 7:59 AM Subject: U.N. seeks to tax international currency trades But a stepping stone to a World Income Tax. Only feeble resistance expected from the US Congress. The Washington Times http://www.washtimes.comwww.washtimes.com -- U.N. seeks to tax international currency trades Betsy Pisik THE WASHINGTON TIMESPublished 1/31/01 -- NEW YORK The United Nations yesterday issued a sweeping list of proposals to help the world's poorest nations cope with the effects of globalization, including an idea for a global tax on international currency transactions. A 0.1 percent tax on $1.5 trillion worth of "speculative" currency transactions could yield $150 billion a year that could be used to stabilize volatile markets, said the report, compiled in collaboration with the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund, the World Trade Organization and others. Officials who drafted the report showed little enthusiasm yesterday for the measure, one of dozens that may wind up in a non-binding agreement nations will negotiate in March 2002. "We have not recommended any such thing," Nitin Desai, the U.N. undersecretary-general for economic and social affairs, said of the global tax, which is presented in paragraph 113 of the 64-page report and touted in its press kit. Instead, he said, "It's one of the areas where the report is not clearly making an explicit recommendation but simply saying that someone has said, 'Think about it.' " He declined to elaborate on how such a tax would be collected, administered or disbursed. Nor would he say whether U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan would endorse such a measure. Reinhard Munzberg, the U.N. representative for the International Monetary Fund, and Enrique Rueda-Sabater, a World Bank senior manager, also pointedly refused to endorse the suggestion, which apparently was offered by nongovernmental organizations and unnamed member states. A panel of high-profile financial analysts, including former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin and former Mexican President Ernesto Zedillo, is to release its own recommendations next month. The U.N. officials no doubt are stung by reactions to earlier ideas for world taxes. Last year, the authors of the U.N. Development Program's annual Human Development Report suggested a special tax on Internet commerce and messages. The suggestion presented in less than a sentence overshadowed the massive evaluation of human rights. Secretary-General Boutros Boutros-Ghali derailed his hopes for a second term, in part, by suggesting in the mid-1990s that the United Nations raise funds by taxing international airline tickets. Largely because of that, the U.S. Congress made payment of $100 million in U.N. funds contingent on the organization's promise not to try to levy its own taxes. "Among [private nonprofit organizations] there is a strong sympathy for a measure of this kind," said Danish Ambassador Jorgen Bojer. He said his own government was mildly interested in the idea but had decided it was not worth the political effort to pursue it. The report released yesterday suggests scores of ways for the industrialized world to lower trade barriers, encourage debt forgiveness, and direct capital and investment dollars to the poorest nations. Developing countries are advised in the report to improve access to microcredit loans, provide better regulation of financial markets, and reform tax and banking measures. The officials note that official development assistance continues to shrink well below a long-standing target of 0.7 percent of developed countries' gross national product (GNP). The median in 1999 was only 0.25 of GNP, while the bulk of nearly $200 billion in private investment last year went to 20 nations. Meanwhile, the world's poorest nations slid deeper into debt. Total debt equaled the total GNP in 1998 for the world's poorest countries. World trade more than tripled to $5.4 trillion between 1995 and 1998, while exports from the least-developed nations accounted for $26 billion, a $2 billion increase in the same period. Copyright 2001 News
[e-gold-list] Re: Opportunities (was Re: GoldPouchExpress fund e-gold account fast by Visa for 13%
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [DeLurking...] What about a 1-900-GET-GOLD funding method. I call the number from the phone I wish to have charged for the call. A recording prompts me for an E-Gold account number. I verify the account number with a yes or no. Then 100 dollars worth of Gold are spent to the account and charged to my phone bill. Done. Hank eCharge might be interested in this. http://www.echarge.com/ Bob --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Micropayment article
Interesting article on Micropayment systems, No mention of e-gold (what is wrong with this picture?) http://searchhound.iz.com/Howl/Articles/Display/0,,articleId=732,00.html --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: U.N. seeks to tax international currency trades
But a stepping stone to a World Income Tax. Only feeble resistance expected from the US Congress. Betsy Pisik THE WASHINGTON TIMESPublished 1/31/01 -- NEW YORK The United Nations yesterday issued a sweeping list of proposals to help the world's poorest nations cope with the effects of globalization, including an idea for a global tax on international currency transactions. Unbelievable! Can I shoot myself now? Notice that on bananagold.com you have to press a button agreeing "that you oppose world government" before you can use the system! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
