[e-gold-list] CardAccounts.tv

[GoldSpender]

Hello,

I ordered their card a day ago, but there's still no answers from them...
I am trying to reach them by e-mail, just to make sure they've sent me the
card and the DHL tracking number.

Does anybody have any experience with the service CardAccounts.tv ?
When would they send me the card?

Thanks

WBR,
Paul

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[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] there's a big old gap

[jpm]

>And if you look a some other charting services,
it is not a gap at all, but rather a rapid but steady
series of increments upward.
http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?s=FOREX_XAUUSDO&v=i



Dave, not correct my friend!

The market definitely, definitely opened up a gap this morning (a 
huge one!), indeed there is still a gap although its slowly closing, 
and will close within the next few days.

You can see it clearly here --

http://itsallinthecharts.com/sub/gaptoday.jpg

Note that

(i) the world's gold market is set and priced by the futures market, 
the spot market means little.

(ii) the future's market runs from 8.20 am until 1.30 pm in NYC, NYC time

(iii) as you say, in fact, there's no such thing as a "gap" in the 
spot prices.  it is meanginless, the spot price is traded 
continuously (24 hrs a day), so it can't "gap".  Saying the spot 
priced "gapped" would be like saying "I forgot to use the clutch on 
my automatic transmission".   To "gap" aka "gap open" means that in a 
market which trades from 9am until 5pm (say), then opening price at 
9am is significantly different from the closing price the previous 
day at 5pm.  ie the term refers to the opening price in a market that 
does, in fact, open!  markets that trade 24 hrs a day cant "gap 
open", indeed they cant "open" !

(iv) so when someone says the price has gapped up or down, they are 
inherently referring to the futures price (I suppose in a general 
abstract way you could talk about a 24 hr market "gapping", which 
would just be an analogy for "moved quickly", but it has nothing to 
do with "gapping open" as 24 hr markets, like say emini markets, 
never open or close)



BTW

>  Be prepared for loss selling by the bullion banks and
their cronies in a attempt to force the price back
below $305.

You know, ANY market traded by humans, will force back a gap.

It is universal, a universal of market psychology.  In practice every 
single traded commodity will close a gap like that (9 times out of 
ten).  It's not really the "bullion banks" that are relevant in such 
a pressue, it's the pros and pit traders that will simply pull the 
price back to close the gap down to 306.10 on the gc2m


IMHO the sort of thing you a referring to - "GATA - like" forces 
driving the price down - applies in much broader aspects of the gold 
market.

The gap open this morning, the pros in the pits will easily close, to 
(a) force out all the amateurs who made money on the futures contract 
and (b) cancel any loss any of them made due to the gap.  That would 
happen in any futures pit!

(indeed vast numbers of commodities traders are nothing other than 
"gap traders", the sole trading strategy they employ is based on the 
notion that certain gaps usually close.)

JP!


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[e-gold-list] admin note (was Re: Ragnar's PGP key)

[James M. Ray]

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Hash: SHA1

Hi folks, um..due to my own personal history (and as a general 
security-scold from time-to-time) I'm very tolerant of PGP and 
cryptography related stuff, but if everyone sends a PGP key, it'll quickly 
get tiresome, and it just so happens that:

http://www.free-market.net/forums/e-gold0009/

could use a few...er...voices of sanity, pgp keys, ANYTHING, etc. to 
leaven what is a VERY obviously UN-moderated discussion! Hopefully, 
free-market.net will even make us some new disk-space and archive this one 
on the off chance that anyone's interested in the future, and we can start 
with a clean slate. I'll see. I hope their forum (and/or maybe others?) 
provides a good enough place for this stuff.

I don't wish to discourage non-e-gold posts IF they have something to do 
with gold (or emoney or filthy-lucre/great-businesses in general) and PGP 
security isn't *entirely* off topic, we just can't become an email 
key-server without losing subscribers!). Indeed, I've seen a few 
interesting items on the Hettingalists lately, but haven't had the time to 
get to them in time for them to be timely, IMO.

Also, and continuing in security-scold mode, I'm getting zillions of 
copies at/from multiple emails of the worm-du-jour featured at http://www.
wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,52055,00.html which can only mean that 
the general state of computer security remains in the dumps. *sigh* I even 
got one that appeared to be from ME this morning! Please compute securely.
JMR

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[e-gold-list] Ragnar's PGP key

[Ragnar]

I am testing a new e-mail software. All those who requested a PGP key from me please 
see attached.
Also, please reply to me via this e-mail with your own public keys.  If this works, 
I'm going to keep this software and be PGP-
enabled henceforward...

Thank you.

Regards,

Ragnar

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[e-gold-list] Thank You!

[RJ LeVeque]

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[e-gold-list] Gold Changers and other Market Makers Reliability

[Dale Reardon]

Hi,


Now I must stress that I have not used Gold Changers myself.  In fact I 
recently used cambist.net and was extremely impressed by their service and 
support.  Also their fees were incredibly low and they really supported me 
being in Australia also.

However I subscribe to the e-told reports and there is now a warning about 
Gold Changers which are listed on the e-gold site as market makers.  It 
seems they are taking spends but not funding accounts.

Is there any system of market makers being guaranteed?  If they belong to a 
certain body are they safer?  Does e-gold accredit them in any way or just 
put makers on their site in return for an advertising fee?

Thanks for any info on understanding the system better.

Dale.




Dale Reardon.

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[e-gold-list] PayPAl Int'l ?

[TK]

Even "accept international customers" part is very limited. With the
conditions and process they go through, it is practically impossible
to have an operative account with PayPal, simply because they use the
same procedure to process an international account as for a local USA
one.  Such requirements as residential address to match utility bill,
credit card and bank account, etc is very difficult to comply due to
different conditions overseas.

Ted
- Original Message -
From: Fidex Marketing
To: e-gold Discussion
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:13 PM
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: netspend / netgoldspend / mailing outside
of US
>
>> A great example of a US company with outstanding support for intl
>> customers
>> is PayPal ...


>I hope you are being ironic here...

>It is true they accept international customers but "outstanding
support"
>???!!!

>Nick
>Fidex


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[e-gold-list] PayPal customer service?

[TK]

I am in Asia. Opened a PayPal account but can't use it because they
placed it under Restricted status.  No amount of emailing can get
them to help me lift the restricted status.  So, I have to agree with
Craig here, that "PayPal has NO customer support."

Ted

> > A great example of a US company with outstanding support for intl
> > customers
> > is PayPal ...

>Now I must die! I've seen everything!

>PayPal has NO customer support.

>Check out www.PayPalWarning.com.

>Craig


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[e-gold-list] Re: netspend / netgoldspend / mailing outside of US

[Fidex Marketing]

Hi
 
> Ensuring that one can (easily & cheaply) withdraw money from PayPal to
> local
> bank accounts in 16 countries is what I call outstanding intl
support...
> It
> is certainly not easy to accomplish but it makes their service truly
> global:
>
http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/approved_countries-outsid
e


16 countries is still not a lot. The internet is global.

One of my friends had his Paypal account suspended just because he dared
to log into it from an IP address in a country outside these 16, and
then he had to spend about 45 minutes on hold on an international call
to get the restriction lifted. They told him it was his fault because
they did not support the country he was accessing it from (his basic
account was set up in the US)

Another thing: Paypal's debit card was only available in the US last
time I checked.

Nick
Fidex




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[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] there's a big old gap

[Patrick Chkoreff]

From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> a big bullish gold open ...

Also silver and platinum.  Gains this morning:

Gold:   +1%(from 304.50 to 307.50)
Silver:  +1.5%  (from 4.55 to 4.62)
Platinum:  +1.8%  (from 544 to 554)

-- Patrick



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[e-gold-list] Re: netspend / netgoldspend / mailing outside of US

[PowerClicks]

 >>> A great example of a US company with outstanding support for intl
>>> customers
>>> is PayPal ...
> 
> Now I must die! I've seen everything!
> 
> PayPal has NO customer support.


I said "outstanding support for intl customers", to make myself clear, I'm
not talking about customer service which I never had to deal with, I mean
that PayPal's service is fully supportive of international customers and
they are taking great care in ensuring that their service works and is
convenient for people in other markets than the US...

Ensuring that one can (easily & cheaply) withdraw money from PayPal to local
bank accounts in 16 countries is what I call outstanding intl support... It
is certainly not easy to accomplish but it makes their service truly global:
http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/approved_countries-outside

I know many on this list and elsewhere like to criticize PayPal, but one
must realize the type of service they provide and the large scale on which
they provide this service:
 - they allow anyone to accept credit cards & ach transactions; no
"approval", no credit check, no security deposit
 - they give the tools to more serious sellers (shopping cart, membership
billing,...)
 - they are now handling close to $1.5 BILLION in payment volume PER
QUARTER.
 - they have over 15 million registered accounts
 - 20% of the payment volume involves at least 1 non-US party
 - if you have one of those PayPal debit cards, the money can be withdrawn
the instant funds reach your PayPal account

The bottom line it that what they offer is basically 3rd party billing
services, with instant activation and rates under 3%. You will have a hard
time paying less than that even with your own merchant account.
As far as 3rd party billing, they generally take 10-15% fees, a 5% rolling
reserve, activation is not instantaneous, and to top this off, you generally
have limitations on selling physical products and NO debit card...

Given the sheer volume of transactions processed through paypal, it is not
surprising that they generate a few hundred or even a few of thousand
complaints, and there are certainly many legitimate complaints, but I think
you should look at the number of people & businesses using paypal vs the
number of complaints. Lets put things back in perspective!


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[e-gold-list] there's a big old gap

[jpm]

a big bullish gold open ...


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[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] Heads Up for U.S. Businesses

[Patrick Chkoreff]

From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>   (3) money services
> businesses, such as money transfer companies and check cashers;

Perhaps some of you involved in the gold economy here in the US think this
is no big deal.  After all, the government is just trying to prevent money
laundering, right?  Surely these USA PATRIOT regulations are just good
common-sense measures we should all adopt with good cheer, right?

Maybe so, initially.  But you are like a frog in a pot of water, and the
water just keeps getting hotter.  Go ahead and comply with good cheer, but
you had better start planning your exit route out of America.

Listen, from what I heard at the conference, most of you already perform
more due diligence than a regulator would dream of.  That's because you want
nothing to do with criminal or fraudulent activity, and that is laudable.
The problem comes when the government muscles in.  Their motive is not to
prevent crime and fraud, but simply to protect their power to collect and
redistribute money.  That is why they harrass the harmless more than the
dangerous.

Again, please take a few moments to locate your nearest exit.

-- Patrick

"Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the
distinction between government and society.  As a result of this, every time
we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that
we object to its being done at all."  -- Frederic Bastiat


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[e-gold-list] Re: Is www.pgpi.com history?

[jpm]

.net

>Cant seem to access the site http://www.pgpi.com
>is it history?
>
>don


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[e-gold-list] Re: Is www.pgpi.com history?

[Ian Green]

It redirects to the correct site. It's working right now.
 http://www.pgpi.org/


Ian Green
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>Cant seem to access the site http://www.pgpi.com
>is it history?
>
>don



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[e-gold-list] Better make it gold (Currency for the Internet)

[G. Adam Stanislav]

I have added several new items to the "goldware"
store. Several of them say "Better make it GOLD"
in the front, and "Currency for the Inernet" in
the back.

These include a sweatshirt, a baseball Jersey,
a tote bag (and more). Wearing/using them can
turn any one of us into a walking billboard for
the use of gold as e-currency.

Adam
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