[e-gold-list] Re: capped accounts

2001-05-23 Thread Goldlist Cynic


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  It appears to me the only mistake Costa Gold made
  wasto use Omnipay for their outexchange... 
 
 I don't see how Omnipay acted any differently than
 anybody else would.

I'm not surprised, you have an obvious blind spot
where e-gold/GSR/Omnipay are concerned... perhaps you
got hit in the eye by some of the shit that always
flies around them.

 
 Would you want to be on the receiving end of a $1
 million lawsuit because
 you gave the money to the wrong person? 

Yeah right, these guys who wont even identify
themselves are going to open a lawsuit?

  When will people learn, the lads at the top of
 e-gold/GSR/Omnipay have a VERY
  biased modus operandi?
 
 Okay... So don't use Omnipay. JP May run's a very
 nice e-gold wholesale...

Exactly what I said in the first place, WAKE UP
DUDE!!!



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[e-gold-list] Re: capped accounts

2001-05-18 Thread Goldlist Cynic

It appears to me the only mistake Costa Gold made was
to use Omnipay for their outexchange... When will
people learn, the lads at the top of
e-gold/GSR/Omnipay have a VERY biased modus operandi?





Would you want to cash-out an account for over 1
million dollars without
even getting a copy of the guy's driver's license?

IF this were a requirement for OPENING and
MAINTAINING an account..yes.

Since it isn't, no.

It is an Omnipay requirement, and has been since last
summer.


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[e-gold-list] Re: capped accounts

2001-05-18 Thread Viking Coder

 It appears to me the only mistake Costa Gold made was
 to use Omnipay for their outexchange... 

I don't see how Omnipay acted any differently than anybody else would.

Would you want to be on the receiving end of a $1 million lawsuit because
you gave the money to the wrong person? Sending the gold back to the
e-gold account could be considered giving it to the wrong person if the
claims of an internal security breach were true.

Omnipay hasn't 'seized' the gold, they are waiting for somebody from Costa
Gold to provide the identity verification to claim the gold. However, it
probably won't happen for 10 years; the statute of limitations on fraud.
Omnipay can do this without even bending their user agreement. They aren't
e-gold ltd.


 When will people learn, the lads at the top of e-gold/GSR/Omnipay have a VERY
 biased modus operandi?

Okay... So don't use Omnipay. JP May run's a very nice e-gold wholesale
service, Coconut Gold, which has absolutely no connections to Omnipay.
There are several MMs who will pay you more, and/or quicker, than Omnipay
will for your smaller amounts of e-gold.

I have yet to met, or even hear of, more than a few people who don't have
a VERY biased modus operandi. Mother Theresa, Adolf Hitler, and Leonardo
Da Vinci all had a VERY biased modus operandi. If somebody doesn't have a
VERY biased modus operandi, I question their strength of will and ability
to think for themself. This especially applies to anybody at the top. How
do you think they got to the top?


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[e-gold-list] Re: capped accounts

2001-05-16 Thread Khurram Khan



Also, in paragraph one above, why didn't e-gold/Omni just go with the 

if the password fits, tough tittie model?



What went wrong?



Please fill us in Viking!





Well.. I'm not viking... but I'll still answer this.



e-gold did go with the if the password fits rule and completed the spend as stated 
in their user agreement.



However, when the gold reached omnipay, it was their decision as to what to do with 
that.  At the time the CostaGold website stated something to the affect of Our 
account has been hacked... and our funds have been stolen



The OmniPay user agreement allows them to not fill an order if they don't want to and 
return the gold.  However because of the above stated, they put it into escrow.



The OmniPay website does not allow an OutExchange of over 1 million but instead asks 
for the user to call as far as I know.  It is suspicious that Costa did 10 
outexchanges instead of calling OmniPay.  It is also suspicious that Costa has not 
provided proper documents to claim the gold as of yet.  You'd think that a million USD 
worth would be some motivation.

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[e-gold-list] Re: capped accounts

2001-05-16 Thread Viking Coder

 JPM wrote
 We await Viking's enlightenment!

Jeesh... I was away from the computer for a few hours, and you're already
impatiently calling for my reply? I usually do keep a close eye on this
list, but I do have a life other than computers  e-gold. At least, I try
to pretend that I do. :)

 What the hell does CYA stand for again?

Cover Your Ass seems to be a nice working definition for that TLA.


 Eric wrote
 If my company, Gaithmans, issues an outexchange request, then a scammer trys
 to claim he is me or my company and reroute the funds, does this mean that
 Omnipay will turn my funds over to an escrow account?

If some scammer knew exactly when you did an OutExchange to Omnipay and
then pulled off a grand indentity theft; of which you quickly found out
about and re-asserted who you were,  then probably yes. They probably
would put the funds into escrow. How would you get them out? Provide hard
validation (i.e. legal paper documents) of who you are.

The problem wasn't that different people at Costa Gold were trying to get
a check sent to different places. The problem was some people were trying
to get money sent somewhere while other people were trying to get the
order cancelled, and the gold put back into the account, while others were
complaining that they had had an internal security breach.


 Why did someone at Omnipay even bother to listen to the second request if the
 first request had proper account passwords?

One thing a lot of people seem to forget, or simply disregard, is the fact
that e-gold ltd. and Omnipay are two completely separate companies. They
have different, distinct user agreements.  (Yes, I know that they are both
owned by the same people.)

The CYA manuever on Omnipay's part was to put the disputed funds into
escrow. Would you want to be held responsible for giving $1 million to
the wrong person and then getting sued by the right person? This was
completely within Omnipay's user agreement. e-gold ltd. upheld their user
agreement and transfered the gold without question to Omnipay's account.
Omnipay then received multiple conflicting instructions on what to do with
the gold. So they decided to sit and wait until everybody has decided on 1
clear instruction. All that Costa Gold has to do to claim the gold is
prove who they are to Omnipay, and then give that instruction.

This was never an e-gold issue. As I said above, e-gold transfered said
gold without narry a thought to the contrary.


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[e-gold-list] Re: capped accounts

2001-05-16 Thread Viking Coder

All of what I said in the previous pose is what I gleaned from the
following three documents.

http://www.mail-archive.com/e-gold-list@talk.e-gold.com/msg01814.html

http://www.e-gold.com/unsecure/e-g-agree.htm

http://www.omnipay.net/gsr-op-agree.htm


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[e-gold-list] Re: capped accounts

2001-05-16 Thread Michael Moore

. All that Costa Gold has to do to claim the gold is
 prove who they are to Omnipay, and then give that instruction.

So if I could prove I was Costa Gold  I could get my grubby hands on a
million bucks!!

Almost worthwhile creating the paperwork.

Nar...I like sleeping at night.

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[e-gold-list] Re: capped accounts

2001-05-16 Thread SnowDog


  Would you want to cash-out an account for over 1 million dollars without
  even getting a copy of the guy's driver's license?

 Why not, if the e-gold / cash is provably in there and available?

Because the risk of being wrong is too great.

I don't know how GSR reasoned this through, but the requirement for
adequate identification on OutExchanges is in their user agreement, and has
been since last summer.

Craig



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[e-gold-list] Re: capped accounts

2001-05-16 Thread Eve

Does this mean that in all this time, no one has made an attempt to provide
ID?

I'm curious about this.  This is not the only case in which I have heard
that money hasn't been released due to inadequate ID.  How do you decide
whether an ID is acceptable?  I mean, is the ID matched against  the
information provided on the account holder's information with the e-gold
account?


It would seem to me that whoever is recorded on the account as the owner of
said account is the  only person's ID that should be required.  If there is
only one receiver of such a large amount of money, perhaps that person too,
should be required to prove he/she is who he/she says he/she is :)

It's hard to believe that in all this time, no one has been forthcoming in
providing ID with all that money at stake, especially considering the
interest it is drawing for someone else.

Eve

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  Would you want to cash-out an account for over 1 million dollars without
  even getting a copy of the guy's driver's license?

 Why not, if the e-gold / cash is provably in there and available?

Because the risk of being wrong is too great.

I don't know how GSR reasoned this through, but the requirement for
adequate identification on OutExchanges is in their user agreement, and has
been since last summer.

Craig



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[e-gold-list] Re: capped accounts

2001-05-16 Thread SnowDog

 It would seem to me that whoever is recorded on the account as the owner
of
 said account is the  only person's ID that should be required.  If there
is
 only one receiver of such a large amount of money, perhaps that person
too,
 should be required to prove he/she is who he/she says he/she is :)

Costa Gold has made it clear, (from documents that I read on their website a
few months ago), that they do not want to release any personal ID. They say
they have provided incorporation documentation from the company, and that
they have the right NOT to release personal information on any of their
officers. This information can be found on their website here:
http://www.costagold.com/members/main.htm (Then click on Costa Gold, the
Real Story)

 It's hard to believe that in all this time, no one has been forthcoming in
 providing ID with all that money at stake, especially considering the
 interest it is drawing for someone else.

However, it appears that they raised the money under conditions that might
be considered illegal in the US, and it appears that the owners of the
website ARE in the US. So perhaps they are a bit squeamish about being
identified.

SnowDog




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[e-gold-list] Re: capped accounts (in the other sense)

2001-05-16 Thread jpm

Personally, if I was Costa Gold I'd just offer e-gold (Omnipay .. 
GSR .. whatever) a deal.

Say, 90% and they're out.

Omni picks up a hundred bills, COSTA get most of their loot, Omni 
loose the headache and COSTA don't have to give their names to the 
Secret Service.

In all events, they must be fairly soft criminals if no-one on any 
side of the quadrangle has had the shit beaten out of them yet over 
the whole thing.

(Or has this already happened?  Bodies bobbing in the Hudson with 
tiny pyramids carved in their forheads?  Slick Sam has no left side 
on his binary -- put a cap in his ass! says the big boss.)

If that's the case (ie, if they are just pussy white collar 
criminals), Omni should just keep the whole thing, and use it to, 
say, fund the #%!@!$ programming for ads on spend page.  Why not? 
There's no down side.

That's my take!  :)

JP


Costa Gold has made it clear, (from documents that I read on their website a
few months ago), that they do not want to release any personal ID. They say
they have provided incorporation documentation from the company, and that
they have the right NOT to release personal information on any of their
officers. This information can be found on their website here:
http://www.costagold.com/members/main.htm (Then click on Costa Gold, the
Real Story)

 It's hard to believe that in all this time, no one has been forthcoming in
 providing ID with all that money at stake, especially considering the
 interest it is drawing for someone else.

However, it appears that they raised the money under conditions that might
be considered illegal in the US, and it appears that the owners of the
website ARE in the US. So perhaps they are a bit squeamish about being
identified.

SnowDog

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[e-gold-list] Re: capped accounts

2001-05-16 Thread Brandisltd
In a message dated 5/15/01 11:49:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

e-gold did go with the "if the password fits" rule and completed the spend 
as stated in their user agreement.



However, when the gold reached omnipay, it was their decision as to what to 
do with that.  At the time the CostaGold website stated something to the 
affect of "Our account has been hacked... and our funds have been stolen"
Not quite..The Outexchange was completed on March 16th (a Friday). Costa 
Gold was unable to reach anyone at Omnipay until Tuesday, March 20th. NO 
PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT was made by Costa Gold on their website until several 
days later. Costa Gold DID "announce" the hack in an email to the membership 
on March 21st, but Omnipay did not take their action as a result of any 
announcement by Costa Gold.


The OmniPay user agreement allows them to not fill an order if they don't 
want to and return the gold.  However because of the above stated, they put 
it into escrow.
Not quite.Omnipay put it into escrow for two reasons. First, it involved 
10 transactions of $110,000 each to the same US bank account. Omnipay was in 
the process of requesting verification of the request because they felt it 
was "suspicious." Second, it was during this process that Omnipay was 
contacted by the "real" Costa Gold and the conflicting info came to light.


The OmniPay website does not allow an OutExchange of over 1 million but 
instead asks for the user to call as far as I know.  It is suspicious that 
Costa did 10 outexchanges instead of calling OmniPay.  It is also suspicious 
that Costa has not provided proper documents to claim the gold as of yet.  
You'd think that a million USD worth would be some motivation.
Costa Gold DID provide documentation. Then Omnipay requested additional 
info which, if provided, would have violated the law in Costa Gold's country 
of incorporation.result? A standoff which exists to this day.

Michael



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[e-gold-list] Re: capped accounts

2001-05-16 Thread Brandisltd
Snowdog writes:
Would you want to cash-out an account for over 1 million dollars without
even getting a copy of the guy's driver's license?
 
IF this were a requirement for OPENING and MAINTAINING an account..yes.

Since it isn't, no.

Michael


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[e-gold-list] Re: capped accounts

2001-05-16 Thread SnowDog

Would you want to cash-out an account for over 1 million dollars without
even getting a copy of the guy's driver's license?

IF this were a requirement for OPENING and MAINTAINING an account..yes.

Since it isn't, no.

It is an Omnipay requirement, and has been since last summer.




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[e-gold-list] Re: capped accounts

2001-05-16 Thread Viking Coder

 Snowdog writes:
 Would you want to cash-out an account for over 1 million dollars without
 even getting a copy of the guy's driver's license?
  

 Michael
 IF this were a requirement for OPENING and MAINTAINING an account..yes.
 
 Since it isn't, no.

People,

Get this through your thick skulls; e-gold ltd.  Omnipay are SEPARATE
companies with DISTINCT user agreements. You don't need to prove identity
to create an e-gold account. However, Omnipay has decided that before they
will exchange large amounts of gold for fiat cash they will know who you
are.

Is there a market maker out there who would take $1 million dollars worth
of gold and cash it out after receiving multiple conflicting orders as
well as reports of an internal security breach?


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[e-gold-list] Re: capped accounts

2001-05-16 Thread Brandisltd
In a message dated 5/16/01 10:42:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Get this through your thick skulls; e-gold ltd.  Omnipay are SEPARATE
companies with DISTINCT user agreements

 "Welcome to the Hotel California".you can check in, but you can never 
leave."

One of the tenants of international contract law is that in addition to the 
"written word," there be a CLEAR UNDERSTANDING between the parties as to the 
"intent" of the agreement.

Omnipay and E-Gold may be "separate entities" with "separate and distinct 
operating agreements," but they go out of their way to obfuscate this 
situation in the way they represent themselves to the public.

Now I ask you, what is the efficacy of a system that represents to it's 
potential clients the "privacy" factor of it's operation, only to have it's 
premier MarketMaker act in a way totally contrary to that understanding?

What about the principle of reciprocity? If a password is all that is 
necessary to affect an Outexchange from E-Gold, why should the entity that is 
processing that valid request question it?

And, finally, IF the Marketmaker has doubts about the Outexchange, why not 
simply refuse it and refer it back to E-Gold? Why all the "demands" for 
"additional information" and "disclosure" AFTER "seizing" the money? (And, 
please, spare me the argument that Omnipay didn't seize the money, e-gold 
did, for if that were the case, Omnipay wouldn't be leading the effort to get 
disclosure of the info, e-gold would.)

Michael

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[e-gold-list] Re: capped accounts

2001-05-16 Thread SnowDog


Now I ask you, what is the efficacy of a system that represents to it's
potential clients the privacy factor of it's operation, only to have it's
premier MarketMaker act in a way totally contrary to that understanding?

Privacy? Where do you get that? There is nothing in Omnipay's privacy policy
that allows anonymous transactions.

What about the principle of reciprocity?  If a password is all that is
necessary to affect an Outexchange from E-Gold, why should the entity that
is
processing that valid request question it?

It's in their User Agreement.

And, finally, IF the Marketmaker has doubts about the Outexchange, why
not
simply refuse it and refer it back to E-Gold?  Why all the demands for
additional information and disclosure AFTER seizing the money? (And,
please, spare me the argument that Omnipay didn't seize the money, e-gold
did, for if that were the case, Omnipay wouldn't be leading the effort to
get
disclosure of the info, e-gold would.)

This is the only point you make that I think is debatable. It seems to me
that OmniPay did make some subjective decisions here. However, that's what
the court system is for: resolving disputes between people.




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[e-gold-list] Re: capped accounts

2001-05-16 Thread Viking Coder

 Michael wrote
 
  Welcome to the Hotel California.you can check in, but you can never
 leave.
 

How do we go from 1 instance of somebody not willing to claim their money
to saying that it is impossible to get cash out of e-gold?


 One of the tenants of international contract law is that in addition to the
 written word, there be a CLEAR UNDERSTANDING between the parties as to the
 intent of the agreement.

How was that violated here?


 Omnipay and E-Gold may be separate entities with separate and distinct
 operating agreements, but they go out of their way to obfuscate this 
 situation in the way they represent themselves to the public.

How are they are going out of their way to obfuscate the fact that the are
separate companies?


 Now I ask you, what is the efficacy of a system that represents to it's
 potential clients the privacy factor of it's operation, only to have it's
 premier MarketMaker act in a way totally contrary to that understanding?

Omnipay is an independent company and can do whatever it feels like doing.


 What about the principle of reciprocity?  If a password is all that is 
 necessary to affect an Outexchange from E-Gold, why should the entity that is
 processing that valid request question it?

The possibility of having a lawsuit filed against them if they end up
following the instructions given to them by the wrong people. Remember
this whole situation is about there being no clue as to who the real
Costa Gold is. Omnipay was receiving multiple conflicting instructions
from the same place.


 And, finally, IF the Marketmaker has doubts about the Outexchange, why not
 simply refuse it and refer it back to E-Gold?  

NO! It is not e-gold's responsibility. e-gold ltd. did exactly what is was
supposed to do. They transferred the gold from Costa Gold to Omnipay. That
is the sum total of e-gold's duties in this matter.

When Omnipay had doubts about the outexchange, they refused it. However,
they were also told that there had been an internal security breach.
Therefore they couldn't just give the gold back, because they didn't know
who would get it; back to the whole lawsuit issue. It was then put into
escrow until somebody would step foward and provide the validation to
claim it.


 (And, please, spare me the argument that Omnipay didn't seize the money,
 e-gold did, for if that were the case, Omnipay wouldn't be leading the effort
 to get disclosure of the info, e-gold would.)

(I wrote in an ealier post)
 This was never an e-gold issue. As I said above, e-gold transfered said gold
 without narry a thought to the contrary.

How, in all of creation, did you get from what I said to e-gold seized
the money?


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[e-gold-list] Re: capped accounts

2001-05-16 Thread Samuel Mc Kee



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 Coder
  You don't need to prove identity
 to create an e-gold account. However, Omnipay has decided that before they
 will exchange large amounts of gold for fiat cash they will know who you
 are.

Does this mean that if I want to redeem a 400 oz. bar of gold (if I have
that much in my e-gold account) I don't need to prove identity?



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[e-gold-list] Re: capped accounts

2001-05-16 Thread Viking Coder

 Does this mean that if I want to redeem a 400 oz. bar of gold (if I have
 that much in my e-gold account) I don't need to prove identity?

You don't do redemptions through Omnipay.

How are you supposed to receive the gold bar if you won't provide your
identity?
I haven't had enough spare cash lying around that I could get a 400oz. bar
of gold because I felt like testing the redemption system.


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[e-gold-list] Re: capped accounts

2001-05-16 Thread Julian Morrison

Samuel Mc Kee wrote:
 
  -Original Message-
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  Coder
   You don't need to prove identity
  to create an e-gold account. However, Omnipay has decided that before they
  will exchange large amounts of gold for fiat cash they will know who you
  are.
 
 Does this mean that if I want to redeem a 400 oz. bar of gold (if I have
 that much in my e-gold account) I don't need to prove identity?

You need to keep a valid snail-mail address and phone number in your
e-gold account (according to the user agreement), which is used amongst
other things when mailing you the gold.


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[e-gold-list] Re: capped accounts

2001-05-15 Thread gary

The last I heard, a capped account cannot have any more DEPOSITS but they
can still make spends or outexchange the money in the account.  Costa Gold's
account was not CAPPED, it was put into escrow when there was some question
as to who owned the account when an outexchange for a great deal of money
was attempted.

Gary


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 I would like to know what actions precipitate the capping of an account.
 Cayman Money Machine is claiming that they can't payout because egold
won't
 let them and their account has been capped; not even a penny-spend can be
 made to the account.

 Is this Costa Gold all over again??   I know who loses, but I would also
 like to know who profits?

 Whatever happened to the so-called millions withheld by egold from  Costa
 Gold's egold account?

 Eve


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[e-gold-list] Re: capped accounts

2001-05-15 Thread Viking Coder

 Eve wrote
 Cayman Money Machine is claiming that they can't payout because egold won't
 let them 

An account with a value-limit can still make spends. They just can't
receive payments which would put their total holdings over a certain limit
until they validate who they are. This ponzi scheme has run out of steam
and is blaming e-gold for it.


 Is this Costa Gold all over again??   

No. Costa Gold was an entirely different escapade. One of the Costa Gold
account holders decided to screw the others, and run off with the loot by
doing an OutExchange to Omnipay. However, the others quickly found out and
requested that the gold be put back into their account. Upon receiving
several conflicting orders from the same group, Omnipay put the disputed
funds into escrow until the situation got sorted out.


 Whatever happened to the so-called millions withheld by egold from  Costa
 Gold's egold account?

They are still sitting in escrow, waiting for somebody to step forward and
provide the validation to claim them. It isn't e-gold who is withholding
the funds from Costa Gold. It is Omnipay who did the CYA maneuver. (I love
that term)

http://www.e-gold.com/pub-bal.asp?pubid=244983


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[e-gold-list] Re: capped accounts

2001-05-15 Thread Eve

:) Thanks, I felt sure that   e-gold was being scapegoated but I needed the
'straight scoop' to inform the group that was told this fiction.


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 Eve wrote
 Cayman Money Machine is claiming that they can't payout because egold
won't
 let them

An account with a value-limit can still make spends. They just can't
receive payments which would put their total holdings over a certain limit
until they validate who they are. This ponzi scheme has run out of steam
and is blaming e-gold for it.


 Is this Costa Gold all over again??

No. Costa Gold was an entirely different escapade. One of the Costa Gold
account holders decided to screw the others, and run off with the loot by
doing an OutExchange to Omnipay. However, the others quickly found out and
requested that the gold be put back into their account. Upon receiving
several conflicting orders from the same group, Omnipay put the disputed
funds into escrow until the situation got sorted out.


 Whatever happened to the so-called millions withheld by egold from  Costa
 Gold's egold account?

They are still sitting in escrow, waiting for somebody to step forward and
provide the validation to claim them. It isn't e-gold who is withholding
the funds from Costa Gold. It is Omnipay who did the CYA maneuver. (I love
that term)

http://www.e-gold.com/pub-bal.asp?pubid=244983


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[e-gold-list] Re: capped accounts

2001-05-15 Thread jpm

At 1:58 PM -0400 5/15/01, Viking Coder wrote:
No. Costa Gold was an entirely different escapade. One of the Costa Gold
account holders decided to screw the others, and run off with the loot by
doing an OutExchange to Omnipay. However, the others quickly found out and
requested that the gold be put back into their account. Upon receiving
several conflicting orders from the same group, Omnipay put the disputed
funds into escrow until the situation got sorted out.


 Whatever happened to the so-called millions withheld by egold from  Costa
 Gold's egold account?

They are still sitting in escrow, waiting for somebody to step forward and
provide the validation to claim them. It isn't e-gold who is withholding
the funds from Costa Gold. It is Omnipay who did the CYA maneuver. (I love
that term)


What the hell does CYA stand for again?

Also, in paragraph one above, why didn't e-gold/Omni just go with the 
if the password fits, tough tittie model?

What went wrong?

Please fill us in Viking!




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[e-gold-list] Re: capped accounts

2001-05-15 Thread Julian Morrison

SnowDog wrote:
 
  Also, in paragraph one above, why didn't e-gold/Omni just go with the
  if the password fits, tough tittie model?
 
  What went wrong?
 
 Would you want to cash-out an account for over 1 million dollars without
 even getting a copy of the guy's driver's license?

Why not, if the e-gold / cash is provably in there and available?

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