Re: [Elecraft] 432 transverter with 2m transverter and satellites
VR2BrettGraham wrote: whether you can change the frequency using the FA; and FB; commands while transmitting - this is essential. The K2 cannot do this. More than that - you can't QSY whilst transmitting. Pretty sure that most of the digital control side of the K2 goes into sleep mode whilst transmitting, to make sure you don't transmit any digital noise. -- Nosey Nick Waterman, Senior Sysadmin. #include stddisclaimer[EMAIL PROTECTED] Joining nudist colony! Must sell washer dryer $300. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRP in the novice subbands
In a message dated 10/19/05 11:37:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, the big problem is -- there are no more Novices! Yes, there are! Also Tech Pluses and Techs-with-HF, who have the same privileges as Novices. 30 years ago, when I was first licensed, the Novice class was common. FCC hasn't issued a Novice license for years now, and anyone who would meet the requirements would now be a General. These are the numbers of current, unexpired amateur radio licenses held by individuals on the stated dates, and the percentage of the total number of active licenses that class contains: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 (7.3%) Technician - 205,394 (30.4%) Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%) General - 112,677 (16.7%) Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%) Extra - 78,750 (11.7%) Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%) Total all classes - 674,792 As of October 15, 2005: Novice - 27,606 (4.2%) [decrease of 21,723] Technician - 272,111 (41.0%) [increase of 66,717) Technician Plus - 45,994 (6.9%) [decrease of 82,866] General - 135,881 (20.5%) [increase of 23,204] Advanced - 75,043 (11.3%) [decrease of 24,739] Extra - 107,178 (16.1%) [increase of 28,428] Total Tech/TechPlus - 318,105 (47.9%) [decrease of 16,149] Total all classes - 663,788 (decrease of 11,004) Note that these totals do not include licenses that have expired but are in the grace period. They also do not include club, military, RACES or other station-only licenses. Note also that effective April 15, 2000, new Novice, Technician Plus and Advanced licenses are no longer issued. Since April 15, 2000, FCC has renewed all existing Technician Plus licenses as Technician. It is therefore informative to consider the totals of the two classes, since the Technician class includes a significant number of Technician Plus licenses renewed as Technician. So, they are, indeed, a waste. I'd like to see the subbands absorbed back into the main band plan. Give another 25 KC to SSB, move digital stuff up a bit and give more space to CW as well. Sounds like a good idea. Except there's no separation between Morse Code and data modes on those subbands, at least in the USA. Data modes aren't allowed in the HF 'phone image subbands, but outside them, all the data modes share the same space as Morse Code. Only good operating practice keeps them apart. The FCC has already received a similar petition from the ARRL. I don't think that petition has been filed yet. It proposes regulation by signal bandwidth, not mode. It has some good ideas and some flaws. I think the FCC is just biding it's time until it can make a bunch of rules at one whack. No - just the opposite. Currently the only pending NPRM is about Morse Code testing (05-235) . Comments on that one close at the end of this month. There were 18 petitions to FCC from mid-2003 to mid-2005 about changing license classes, Morse Code and written testing, new entry-level license classes, subbands, and a whole bunch more. They all got RM numbers and comments. FCC replied to all 18 petitions by 05-235, which proposes to simply drop Element 1 (the 5 wpm code test) and make no other changes at all. The ARRL regulation by bandwidth petition is a separate deal. For a good QRP band, there's always 30m, too. No Novices, but it is restricted to 200 watt PEP just the same. Yup - because it's shared. -- For a snapshot of current US licensing, see: http://www.arrl.org/fcc/stats.html 73 de Jim, N2EY ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] QRP in the novice subbands
Wow, great info Jim, Buy I still wonder why we QRP duded didn't decide to have the QRP frequencies in the low power section of the band. I suspect it is because there aren't any signals there ;-) And yes, 30 m is one of my favorite bands because it has no phone signals and now high power amps. If you hear them they're in your league and can be worked. - Keith KD1E - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 7:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Darwin, Keith Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRP in the novice subbands In a message dated 10/19/05 11:37:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, the big problem is -- there are no more Novices! Yes, there are! Also Tech Pluses and Techs-with-HF, who have the same privileges as Novices. 30 years ago, when I was first licensed, the Novice class was common. FCC hasn't issued a Novice license for years now, and anyone who would meet the requirements would now be a General. These are the numbers of current, unexpired amateur radio licenses held by individuals on the stated dates, and the percentage of the total number of active licenses that class contains: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 (7.3%) Technician - 205,394 (30.4%) Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%) General - 112,677 (16.7%) Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%) Extra - 78,750 (11.7%) Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%) Total all classes - 674,792 As of October 15, 2005: Novice - 27,606 (4.2%) [decrease of 21,723] Technician - 272,111 (41.0%) [increase of 66,717) Technician Plus - 45,994 (6.9%) [decrease of 82,866] General - 135,881 (20.5%) [increase of 23,204] Advanced - 75,043 (11.3%) [decrease of 24,739] Extra - 107,178 (16.1%) [increase of 28,428] Total Tech/TechPlus - 318,105 (47.9%) [decrease of 16,149] Total all classes - 663,788 (decrease of 11,004) Note that these totals do not include licenses that have expired but are in the grace period. They also do not include club, military, RACES or other station-only licenses. Note also that effective April 15, 2000, new Novice, Technician Plus and Advanced licenses are no longer issued. Since April 15, 2000, FCC has renewed all existing Technician Plus licenses as Technician. It is therefore informative to consider the totals of the two classes, since the Technician class includes a significant number of Technician Plus licenses renewed as Technician. So, they are, indeed, a waste. I'd like to see the subbands absorbed back into the main band plan. Give another 25 KC to SSB, move digital stuff up a bit and give more space to CW as well. Sounds like a good idea. Except there's no separation between Morse Code and data modes on those subbands, at least in the USA. Data modes aren't allowed in the HF 'phone image subbands, but outside them, all the data modes share the same space as Morse Code. Only good operating practice keeps them apart. The FCC has already received a similar petition from the ARRL. I don't think that petition has been filed yet. It proposes regulation by signal bandwidth, not mode. It has some good ideas and some flaws. I think the FCC is just biding it's time until it can make a bunch of rules at one whack. No - just the opposite. Currently the only pending NPRM is about Morse Code testing (05-235) . Comments on that one close at the end of this month. There were 18 petitions to FCC from mid-2003 to mid-2005 about changing license classes, Morse Code and written testing, new entry-level license classes, subbands, and a whole bunch more. They all got RM numbers and comments. FCC replied to all 18 petitions by 05-235, which proposes to simply drop Element 1 (the 5 wpm code test) and make no other changes at all. The ARRL regulation by bandwidth petition is a separate deal. For a good QRP band, there's always 30m, too. No Novices, but it is restricted to 200 watt PEP just the same. Yup - because it's shared. -- For a snapshot of current US licensing, see: http://www.arrl.org/fcc/stats.html 73 de Jim, N2EY ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Sheesh I can't spell (RE: QRP in the novice subbands)
That's QRP Dudes not QRP duded And it meant to say no high power amps not now high power amps Theere, I fele bettetr now thta we haev taht all cleraed up! - Keith KD1E - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darwin, Keith Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 8:20 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] QRP in the novice subbands Wow, great info Jim, Buy I still wonder why we QRP duded didn't decide to have the QRP frequencies in the low power section of the band. I suspect it is because there aren't any signals there ;-) And yes, 30 m is one of my favorite bands because it has no phone signals and now high power amps. If you hear them they're in your league and can be worked. - Keith KD1E - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 7:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Darwin, Keith Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRP in the novice subbands In a message dated 10/19/05 11:37:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, the big problem is -- there are no more Novices! Yes, there are! Also Tech Pluses and Techs-with-HF, who have the same privileges as Novices. 30 years ago, when I was first licensed, the Novice class was common. FCC hasn't issued a Novice license for years now, and anyone who would meet the requirements would now be a General. These are the numbers of current, unexpired amateur radio licenses held by individuals on the stated dates, and the percentage of the total number of active licenses that class contains: As of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 (7.3%) Technician - 205,394 (30.4%) Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%) General - 112,677 (16.7%) Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%) Extra - 78,750 (11.7%) Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%) Total all classes - 674,792 As of October 15, 2005: Novice - 27,606 (4.2%) [decrease of 21,723] Technician - 272,111 (41.0%) [increase of 66,717) Technician Plus - 45,994 (6.9%) [decrease of 82,866] General - 135,881 (20.5%) [increase of 23,204] Advanced - 75,043 (11.3%) [decrease of 24,739] Extra - 107,178 (16.1%) [increase of 28,428] Total Tech/TechPlus - 318,105 (47.9%) [decrease of 16,149] Total all classes - 663,788 (decrease of 11,004) Note that these totals do not include licenses that have expired but are in the grace period. They also do not include club, military, RACES or other station-only licenses. Note also that effective April 15, 2000, new Novice, Technician Plus and Advanced licenses are no longer issued. Since April 15, 2000, FCC has renewed all existing Technician Plus licenses as Technician. It is therefore informative to consider the totals of the two classes, since the Technician class includes a significant number of Technician Plus licenses renewed as Technician. So, they are, indeed, a waste. I'd like to see the subbands absorbed back into the main band plan. Give another 25 KC to SSB, move digital stuff up a bit and give more space to CW as well. Sounds like a good idea. Except there's no separation between Morse Code and data modes on those subbands, at least in the USA. Data modes aren't allowed in the HF 'phone image subbands, but outside them, all the data modes share the same space as Morse Code. Only good operating practice keeps them apart. The FCC has already received a similar petition from the ARRL. I don't think that petition has been filed yet. It proposes regulation by signal bandwidth, not mode. It has some good ideas and some flaws. I think the FCC is just biding it's time until it can make a bunch of rules at one whack. No - just the opposite. Currently the only pending NPRM is about Morse Code testing (05-235) . Comments on that one close at the end of this month. There were 18 petitions to FCC from mid-2003 to mid-2005 about changing license classes, Morse Code and written testing, new entry-level license classes, subbands, and a whole bunch more. They all got RM numbers and comments. FCC replied to all 18 petitions by 05-235, which proposes to simply drop Element 1 (the 5 wpm code test) and make no other changes at all. The ARRL regulation by bandwidth petition is a separate deal. For a good QRP band, there's always 30m, too. No Novices, but it is restricted to 200 watt PEP just the same. Yup - because it's shared. -- For a snapshot of current US licensing, see: http://www.arrl.org/fcc/stats.html 73 de Jim, N2EY ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.):
[Elecraft] K2 T3 windings
Last night while doing a final visual inspection of the RF board, I noticed that I somehow managed to scrape a bare spot in the insulation of one of the bifilar windings of T3. It is not in any danger of shorting, but this rig is going on a boat and that little bit of bare copper is going to be green and fuzzy in no time unless I either replace it or patch up the insulation. It is where the winding makes the last turn around the toroid on it's way to the PC board. Is there anything I can use like fingernail polish that will do the job without adversely affecting the part, or is it re-wind time? Thanks 73, N7NSD Norm ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K2 battery switch
Didn't DK3RED do something similar some time ago? Take a look at http://www.ac6rm.net/mailarchive/html/elecraft-list/2002-06/msg00829.html. He used instead the on-off switch of the K2 with its DPDT function to bypass the in-line diode for charging of the internal battery when the K2 is turned off. Unfortunately I cannot get his homepage to work right now so I cannot find the details. 73 Sverre LA3ZA http://www.qslnet.de/la3za/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Norm Havercroft Sent: 20. oktober 2005 02:17 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K2 battery switch Greetings! I am finishing up a new K2 with internal battery and would like to use a DPDT switch in place of the supplied one so that I can either connect or bypass the in-line diode and resistor in the battery wiring depending on what power supply I am using. Has anyone found a substitute DPDT switch that matches the footprint of the stock one? Thanks 73, N7NSD Norm ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K1 and K2 receiver performance?
I know the K2 delivers contest-grade receive performance. That is one of the main reasons I want one so badly :-) But what about the K1? How does the K1 compare to the K2 as far as receive performance is concerned? For that matter, how does the K1 compare to other HF rigs such as my TS-830s? - Keith, KD1E - P.s. I've tried to send this 3 or 4 times and it keeps bouncing with a mailbox full message, yet I can send other messages just fine. I'm stumped. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: K1 and K2 receiver performance?
Hi Keith, The K1 and KX1 are both designed for portability and very low current drain. Like many other QRP transceivers, they use a low-current active mixer in the front end rather than a diode mixer. Due to the low-power mixer, the K1's receiver sensitivity is excellent but its dynamic range is not as large as the K2's (or TS-830's). Most of the time you won't notice the difference. The exception would be if you had a KW neighbor operating on the same band you are, or if you live near a very high-power broadcast station whose signal gets through the band-pass filters. (The K1 has very narrow ham-band filters, reducing the likelihood of such interference.) The K1 includes a switchable attenuator that you can turn on if a very strong signal does appear. Unless you encounter one of these situations, you'll find the K1 very competent in contest situations. It includes a 4-pole variable-bandwidth crystal filter to help reduce adjacent-signal QRM. 73, Wayne N6KR On Oct 20, 2005, at 11:32 AM, Darwin, Keith wrote: I know the K2 delivers contest-grade receive performance. That is one of the main reasons I want one so badly :-) But what about the K1?... --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Remindeer, October 22, this Saturday in Holland, MI
A last minute reminder to all Elecrafters in the Great Lakes area: Russ, N3CO, Sheila, W8IIE and myself, Tom, K8TB will be hosting an Elecraft table at the Holland, MI Swap on October 22. (this coming Saturday)If you have time, please stop by and say hello other Elecrafters. Info on the swap is at: http://superswap.hollandarc.org/2005/ 73, de Tom K8TB K2 # 3206 and 5050 p.s., Elecraft has donated an NG-1 noise generator for a prize. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRP in the novice subbands
In a message dated 10/20/05 8:21:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wow, great info Jim, You're welcome Buy I still wonder why we QRP duded didn't decide to have the QRP frequencies in the low power section of the band. I suspect it is because there aren't any signals there ;-) I think it's because of a bunch of reasons... There was a time when the Novice subbands were jampacked with signals during the best operating times. Before the early 1970s, Novices had to use crystal control, so the QRM was even worse due to most QSOs being effectively split (using two frequencies). On top of this, since Novices could only use those narrow subbands (only 100 kHz total below 21 MHz), it was considered bad form for higher class licenses to use those subbands unless they intended to work Novices. Since most QRP folk were Generals or higher, they tended to avoid the Novice subbands. -- There have been several proposals to refarm the Novice subbands, widen the 'phone subbands, create new entry-level license classes, and offer extended privileges or even automatic upgrades to existing Novices and Tech Pluses. But FCC has denied all of them. The current NPRM effectively says that if someone wants the privileges they should just pass the test(s) and upgrade. Anyone who has ever held a Novice license, even if it expired decades ago, can get Morse Code test credit it if they can provide documentation. So the only upgrade tests for Novices are writtens. Similar rules apply to pre-1991 Technicians. 73 de Jim, N2EY And yes, 30 m is one of my favorite bands because it has no phone signals and now high power amps. If you hear them they're in your league and can be worked. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 and TR-Log
Apparently I'm no longer a member of the TR-Log reflector although I still get their postings (??) I'll try here: What version of TR do I need to be on to get serial control of my K2? I think I'm running 6.72 and have been for a long time. The manual I have is for 6.52 and does not indicate a config item for the K2 in RADIO TYPE. If I can make this work, the K2/100 will become my station radio and at least one of the off-shore radios will hit the market. 73, Fred K6DGW Auburn CA CM98lw ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] QRP in the novice subbands
KD1E wrote: Buy I still wonder why we QRP duded didn't decide to have the QRP frequencies in the low power section of the band. I suspect it is because there aren't any signals there ;-) 7,050 and 14,060 have been QRP frequencies for at least 30 years now that I'm aware of and probably longer than that. So, I'm sure the frequency choice had nothing to do with the Novice band. Thirty years ago Novice band was just that: a place for new operators to get some on-air experience. Others were encouraged to work Novices regularly but it was understood that one expected shaky fists, frequently poor overall operating skills and the need to QRS. After all, that was why the Novice band was there. QRP operators, on the other hand, often ran QRQ and were looking for skilled operators as much as any other non-Novice station might be. I'm not sure just when QRP became defined as 5 watts output. When I was active in the QRP-ARCI, QRP was defined by the club as 50 watts d-c input to the final plate, or between 30 and 40 watts output for most rigs. In any case, the original QRP movement was meant to encourage and demonstrate to the great General/Extra classes of Amateurs just what QRP could do as a typical power for most Amateur communications. The QRP frequencies were supposed to be calling frequencies for those looking for the weak signals. But many QRP operators simply QSO'd with QRO stations to show them that running 50 watts input was often undetectable from the signal their higher powered station ran. Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K2 T3 windings
Norm, While the 'fingernail polish' trick may work just fine, I would believe that simply rewinding T3 would be just as easy and you would end up with something you need not worry about if some 'funny' symptoms should develop later on (do it right, you wil not be sorry). 73, Don W3FPR -Original Message- Last night while doing a final visual inspection of the RF board, I noticed that I somehow managed to scrape a bare spot in the insulation of one of the bifilar windings of T3. It is not in any danger of shorting, but this rig is going on a boat and that little bit of bare copper is going to be green and fuzzy in no time unless I either replace it or patch up the insulation. It is where the winding makes the last turn around the toroid on it's way to the PC board. Is there anything I can use like fingernail polish that will do the job without adversely affecting the part, or is it re-wind time? Thanks 73, N7NSD Norm ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] more DX activity likely from VK
Hello, Expect more activity from Australia on 7 and 14 MHz. VK licence structures have just changed, and now former novice and novice limited hams will have the new standard licence, which allows access to all HF bands, except 1.8MHz WARC. Previously they were restricted to 3.5, 21 and 28MHz, and could not access some portions of those bands. The callsigns involved have three letter suffixes beginning with H, L, M, N, P and V. eg myself VK2LCD (K2 3666) Cheers. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] QRP in the novice subbands
On Oct 20, 2005, at 7:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/19/05 11:37:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, the big problem is -- there are no more Novices! Yes, there are! Also Tech Pluses and Techs-with-HF, who have the same privileges as Novices. But those Techs aren't restricted to operating CW like we were 30 years ago. Extremely few of them are active on HF CW. se are the numbers of current, unexpired amateur radio licenses held by individuals on the stated dates, and the percentage of the total number of active licenses that class contains: As of October 15, 2005: Novice - 27,606 (4.2%) [decrease of 21,723] Technician Plus - 45,994 (6.9%) [decrease of 82,866] QED. And of the licensees that exist -- how many of them are actually active on the HF novices bands? Trust me, I remember when the novice bands were full of activity every evening. That's just not the case any more. The nature of the hobby has changed -- the path of activity that people take is now different. If they are operating CW, it isn't in the Novice bands, by and large. Except there's no separation between Morse Code and data modes on those subbands, at least in the USA. Data modes aren't allowed in the HF 'phone image subbands, but outside them, all the data modes share the same space as Morse Code. Only good operating practice keeps them apart. And there's nothing wrong with good operating practice. We use it to great effect on 160m. I don't think that petition has been filed yet. It proposes regulation by signal bandwidth, not mode. It has some good ideas and some flaws. I wasn't talking about the bandwidth petition, but the Novice band refarming petition. There were 18 petitions to FCC from mid-2003 to mid-2005 about changing license classes, Morse Code and written testing, new entry- level license classes, subbands, and a whole bunch more. They all got RM numbers and comments. FCC replied to all 18 petitions by 05-235, which proposes to simply drop Element 1 (the 5 wpm code test) and make no other changes at all. The ARRL regulation by bandwidth petition is a separate deal. I thought the Novice band refarming was still active. Seems there was an NPRM for that, too. Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASELMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quote: Not within a thousand years will man ever fly! -- Wilbur Wright, 1901 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
