[Elecraft] for sale, K2 #3134

2006-01-11 Thread Henning V. Mikkelsen
Hi all
I have decided to sell my K2 #3134, after a many good hours of QSO's
It is not because the rig is run down, on the contrary, but I have been
bitten
by that little "bug" that I fear rummage around in many shacks.
And I have got the building itch again, hi. But if I am to build another K2
I need to
sell the pressent one first.

It have the PLL ref kit, overload diodes, KSB2, KAF, KAT2, internal battery
option,
MH2 mike and of cource all the manuals.

Price is € 1100,- or the equivelant here of.  The unit is in Denmark and
can be shipped.
Pictures can of cource be mailed. Please repply of list
73- Henning OZ4XF___
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Re: [Elecraft] Weller WTCPT tip longevity

2006-01-11 Thread Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/KC8NHF
The tip will last until the iron coating wears through and the copper 
slug physically erodes.
I would suspect that the switch contacts in the handle of your iron have 
broken or welded closed.

If viewed in the dark, an "always on" TCP will get red hot.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I use a PTF7 solder tip on my WTCPT and recently found that after about
5 minutes of use, the tip suddenly starts to develop a thick char at the
end and makes the solder turn dark. I replaced the tip with a newer one
(<5 hours of use) and the same thing happens to that one. I will next
try a brand new tip to see if the same thing happens. Either the problem
is with the tip or it is with the heater/barrel nut assembly
contaminating the tip. Has anyone experienced the same thing? How long
should a typical solder tip last? Has anyone found a tip cleaning or
storage method that helps prolong tip life? 

Thanks. 
Jeff Fedison in Niskayuna, NY 
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[Elecraft] FS FT-100 Tuning Knob and Code Quick CW training program

2006-01-11 Thread Chuck Gehring

FT-100 tuning knob $12
Code Quick CW Training program $10

I have an Yaesu FT-100 tuning knob that I used on my K2.  It looked good and
worked great, however I longed for the stock Elecraft look so I installed
the Finger Dimple on my K2 knob and I am very pleased with the results.  So
if someone has been looking for a very nice tuning knob for their K2 the
FT-100 knob is available for $12 including shipping in the US.

I also have a complete set of Code Quick tapes (including the manual and
cards).  Code Quick may not be the preferred training method to some, but it
made learning code fun and got me up and on the air so I would like to see
them in continued service.  Code Quick tapes $10 in the US.

73, KI4DGH
Chuck Gehring
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[Elecraft] Power Supplies

2006-01-11 Thread Alan Beck
You all gave me the idea to charge up my old model airplane battery at 
9.5 volts nominal and try it on the rig.


Should work FB and last just as long as a set of AA cells without the 
need to keep opening the radio. Leaving the internal cell cases 
available for emergency uses.


Alan
VY2WU
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[Elecraft] Another K1 on the air

2006-01-11 Thread birtcher
I'm happy to announce the addition of a new little one, K1 S/N 2124, who joined 
his big brother K2 S/N 2152 on January 7, 2006.  His loud cries with 5 watts on 
40 meters into a dipole at 50 feet were first heard by Buki, YT7YT who said he 
was about 569.  Hiro, VE3CGC later told him that he was a robust 589 into 
Ontario.
 
Big brother is doing well, since he knows K1 will be doing a lot of vacation 
and business travel and not hogging the antennas at home.
 
Great little rig - with the KAT-1 in there, it looks like we'll have a lot of 
fun together.  Thanks again to Eric, Wayne, and the rest of the Elecraft gang.
 
73, and see you all on ECN.
 
Bill  K1EV
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[Elecraft] Elecraft] OT: Help designing power supply and toroid

2006-01-11 Thread Allen C. Ward
Hi Don,
As others have advised, winding the transformer is not as easy as it sounds and 
a ready-made one will do the job.  I think you should be more concerned with 
preventing RF noise on the AC line from getting into your power supply and 
hence into the Grundig radio.  Here is where toroid cores and capacitors come 
into play.  Do a search on emi and rfi filtering and then add filtering to the 
transformer, rectifier, regulator circuits as already described.  Cores and 
wire are available from Amidon and other sources.
GL
Allen KA5N
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Re: [Elecraft] a story that will have a happy ending, soon (slightly OT)

2006-01-11 Thread w2agn

Steve Jackson wrote:


I was surfing on eBay and found auction #5852424318
for a partially-built K2, under circumstances I have
not seen before -- and certainly wish that it was not
so.  

The rig is being sold by the owner's widow.  


I did not know the sk N9PT myself, but I'd bet a
dollar he'd have wanted that rig completed and put on
the air.  I wish I could buy it myself and do just
that!

Hopefully the new owner will come on here and let us
know when this particular radio is finished.


 

I really must ask. How come the moderator on QRP-L says that NO mention 
of eBay is permitted, because the owner of QSL.NET/QTH.NET forbids it, 
yet I see it frequently here on the Elecraft list? Could there be some 
prevarication involved here?


John W2AGN
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RE: [Elecraft] a story that will have a happy ending, soon (slightlyOT)

2006-01-11 Thread Dan Barker
How come this question is on the Elecraft list? Shouldn't it be on the QRP-L
list?

Dan / WG4S / K2 #2456

ps: Admittedly, I'm curious about the answer too.

How come the moderator on QRP-L says that NO mention of eBay is
permitted, because the owner of QSL.NET/QTH.NET forbids it


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[Elecraft] FS FT-100 Tuning Knob and Code Quick has been sold

2006-01-11 Thread Chuck Gehring
The response was very quick.  The FT-100 Tuning knob and Code Quick Programs 
have already been spoken for.
73 KI4DGH
Chuck Gehring
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Re: [Elecraft] a story that will have a happy ending, soon (slightlyOT)

2006-01-11 Thread w2agn

Dan Barker wrote:


How come this question is on the Elecraft list? Shouldn't it be on the QRP-L
list?

Dan / WG4S / K2 #2456

ps: Admittedly, I'm curious about the answer too.

How come the moderator on QRP-L says that NO mention of eBay is
permitted, because the owner of QSL.NET/QTH.NET forbids it

 

For one thing, I am not a member of QRP-L any longer, and for another, I 
was curious if this list was subjected to the same constraints.


John W2AGN
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[Elecraft] [Fwd: K2 VCO, wrong frequency] **FIXED**

2006-01-11 Thread Bill Coleman N2BC

In the immortal words of Emily Latella.   "Never mind"

Yes, I said I checked things carefully.  Tired old eyes.  K13 was not 
soldered,  sigh.


I still think the voltage chart for U4 pin 5 and 7 is incorrect (and the 
places they connect to).  Will report back later when I make it through 
the rest of Part 2 alignment.


73,   Bill  N2BC
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[Elecraft] ARCBS 2006 Kissing Bridge Event!

2006-01-11 Thread Edward R. Breneiser
Hello all,

The ARCBS is proud to sponsor its second Kissing Bridge Event.
This year the ARCBS will host numerous nice events. The grand prize for
the Kissing Bridge Event is a $50 Dinner-For-Two! Please remember that
some of the events require current ARCBS Membership for free prizes,
awards and certificates. 
Check it out at: http://www.arcbs.org


73,
Ed, WA3WSJ 


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[Elecraft] The "right" tool for removing IC pins

2006-01-11 Thread PDouglas12
There has been much talk here and on other lists about the safe/correct way 
to remove ICs from circuit boards.   Conventional ICs (as opposed to the 
surface mount jobs, which are another whole animal) can be removed cleanly and 
easily with a vacuum desoldering machine.  Handheld vacuum poppers are not a 
good 
substitute for a motorized desoldering machine.   For one thing, the popper's 
recoil will pull it off the work as it discharges.   If you've ever used or 
seen one of these desoldering machines in action, they are nothing short of 
amazing.   You put the tip over a pin, and it sucks the hole clean and dry in a 
fraction of a second.   Do this fourteen times, and the IC can be easily 
removed 
intact with two fingers.   The holes left behind are so clean that a new IC 
will drop right in as if they were virgin.   

So, if you're building your dream K2, and you make an IC mistake, you want to 
find a local ham who has one of these machines.   They're too expensive 
(upwards of $200 used) to buy for a one-shot deal, but they are the kind of 
tool 
you'd want around a serious workbench--kind of like a good oscilloscope.   And 
they require maintenance. 

My suggestion is to get on the local repeater and ask who has one, rather 
than trying to wrestle the pins out of a hot circuit board.   If you're local 
to 
me (Long Island) just ask.   I have a working desoldering machine.   Yes, you 
can clean out an IC using a combination of solder wick and vacuum poppers; but 
you will almost certainly do some damage to the traces/holes in the process, 
particularly on boards with plated through holes.   Better to find someone to 
give you a couple of minutes of time with a desoldering machine.   

72,

Preston Douglas WJ2V
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RE: [Elecraft] The "right" tool for removing IC pins

2006-01-11 Thread Don Wilhelm
Preston and all,

Good advice, but remember when considering de-soldering anything that the
value of the individual component (no matter how expensive) is very small
compared to the value of the board with all the other mounted components.
So if you do not have one of these de-soldering tools, the best method is to
waste the component by cutting off its mounting leads and then remove the
remaining bits from the board one at a time.  While it may be inconvenient
to wait for a new component, doing so will protect your investment (both
time and money) in the remainder of the board.  Even with a Hakko 808 in
residence here, I sometimes resort to cutting the component leads myself if
removal becomes a bit troublesome.

73,
Don W3FPR

> -Original Message-
>
> There has been much talk here and on other lists about the
> safe/correct way
> to remove ICs from circuit boards.   Conventional ICs (as opposed to the
> surface mount jobs, which are another whole animal) can be
> removed cleanly and
> easily with a vacuum desoldering machine.  Handheld vacuum
> poppers are not a good
> substitute for a motorized desoldering machine.   For one thing,
> the popper's
> recoil will pull it off the work as it discharges.   If you've
> ever used or
> seen one of these desoldering machines in action, they are
> nothing short of
> amazing.   You put the tip over a pin, and it sucks the hole
> clean and dry in a
> fraction of a second.   Do this fourteen times, and the IC can be
> easily removed
> intact with two fingers.   The holes left behind are so clean
> that a new IC
> will drop right in as if they were virgin.
>
> So, if you're building your dream K2, and you make an IC mistake,
> you want to
> find a local ham who has one of these machines.   They're too expensive
> (upwards of $200 used) to buy for a one-shot deal, but they are
> the kind of tool
> you'd want around a serious workbench--kind of like a good
> oscilloscope.   And
> they require maintenance.
>
> My suggestion is to get on the local repeater and ask who has one, rather
> than trying to wrestle the pins out of a hot circuit board.   If
> you're local to
> me (Long Island) just ask.   I have a working desoldering
> machine.   Yes, you
> can clean out an IC using a combination of solder wick and vacuum
> poppers; but
> you will almost certainly do some damage to the traces/holes in
> the process,
> particularly on boards with plated through holes.   Better to
> find someone to
> give you a couple of minutes of time with a desoldering machine.
>
> 72,
>
> Preston Douglas WJ2V


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[Elecraft] Camp-Run-A-MOC: N3EPA!

2006-01-11 Thread Edward R. Breneiser
Hello all!

Please keep an ear out for the N3EPA Call.
The bears at Camp-Run-A-MOC will activate this call from
1/13 to 1/16. During the Polar Bear Hunt/Sprint, we will be
worth 100 bonus points per valid contact! 

The camp will have two stations on the air one will be N3EPA
and the other will be the call sign of the PB operator. Also look for
the new Polar Bear Club Calls and Numbers. We presently have two PB
Clubs:

N3EPA  PA1  EPA QRP Club
N0QG   NE1  Midwest Home Brewers And QRP Group NE

Please note that all club numbers start with their state 
abbreviation and then a digit.

For more info about the Polar bear Hunt go to:
http://www.n3epa.org/Pages/Jan2006PolarbearSprint.htm

Now go bag your bear!

72,

Ed, WA3WSJ
PB #2



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[Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?

2006-01-11 Thread Darwin, Keith
K1 or K2.  Hmmm, the debate continues.  But wait, we're approaching a
sunspot min.  My antennas are pretty limited.  I have a 28 foot vertical
(fed with a tuner near the base) for 40 thru 15 and a dipole at 25 feet
but that is about it.  No towers, no high wires, no yagis.
 
How limiting will 5 or 10 watts (even with that Elecraft Mojo) be under
current conditions?  Are we entering into conditions where QRP with
simple antennas will become rather frustrating?  Is it K2/100 time?
 
- Keith KD1E -
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RE: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?

2006-01-11 Thread Robert Tellefsen
Keith
I run only wire antennas here with my 5w K2.
Plus a 50 ft vertical on 160m.  With the K2
at 5w, I have 160m QRP WAS, so you can have
a lot of fun with 5w on the low bands.

You do have to be a bit creative with your
antennas to wring out the last drop of performance
from them, but to me, that's part of the fun of
ham radio.  A good radio helps, too.  For contesting,
I would stick with the K2 over the K1.  More
features to work with, and access to all bands.

I work all the contests, and throw my 5w in there
among the big boys.  Fun is where you find it.
Get out there and stir something up.

73, Bob N6WG
The Little Station with Attitude

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K1 or K2.  Hmmm, the debate continues.  But wait, we're approaching a
sunspot min.  My antennas are pretty limited.  I have a 28 foot vertical
(fed with a tuner near the base) for 40 thru 15 and a dipole at 25 feet
but that is about it.  No towers, no high wires, no yagis.
 
How limiting will 5 or 10 watts (even with that Elecraft Mojo) be under
current conditions?  Are we entering into conditions where QRP with
simple antennas will become rather frustrating?  Is it K2/100 time?
 
- Keith KD1E -
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Re: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?

2006-01-11 Thread vze3v8dt
Hi Keith,

During the solar minimum the higher frequencies don't open as often or for as 
long, that is 10 & 15m.  I find that 20m and 17m are open nearly every day and 
are both great bands for making QRP QSOs, and similarly I use mostly 17m while 
HF mobile (I estimate that the poor mobile antenna efficiency with a 100W rig 
is about the same as QRP, HI HI!).  These bands are open during the daytime and 
closed (at my QTH) at night generally.

Okay, now for the good part.  If you have a vertical antenna with good radial 
system to minimize ground loss you've got a great antenna for DX and stateside 
QSOs on 40m during the night.  I've worked many European DX stations on 40m 
while competing with 100 to 1 KW stations on the bottom of 40m and have always 
made QSOs on 7.040 (when the RTTY & PSK31 doesn't encroach).  DX is probably 
easier on 160 to 40m during a sunspot minimum because more stations that used 
to be active on higher frequencies are forced to go to lower frequencies if 
they want to stay active.  Also, there is less D-layer absorbtion so the path 
losses are less.  Both of these add up to a win-win for QRP!

BTW, I have a Carolina Windom 160 antenna up about 60'.  It is an okay 
all-around antenna but I've had better antennas, I just can't do anything 
different currently.  I'd love to have a tower with a yagi, but it would go to 
waste during the dark hours (which is when I'm home from work to be able to 
play radio anyway) at this point.  

Don't look for excuses to stay off the air (sunspot cycle minimum)!  Look for 
opportunities to be active!

73 & good luck!

Mark, NK8Q
K2 4786


>From: "Darwin, Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Wed Jan 11 11:19:39 CST 2006
>To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>Subject: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?

>K1 or K2.  Hmmm, the debate continues.  But wait, we're approaching a
>sunspot min.  My antennas are pretty limited.  I have a 28 foot vertical
>(fed with a tuner near the base) for 40 thru 15 and a dipole at 25 feet
>but that is about it.  No towers, no high wires, no yagis.
> 
>How limiting will 5 or 10 watts (even with that Elecraft Mojo) be under
>current conditions?  Are we entering into conditions where QRP with
>simple antennas will become rather frustrating?  Is it K2/100 time?
> 
>- Keith KD1E -
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Re: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?

2006-01-11 Thread vze3v8dt
BTW, last night 160m sounded pretty good.  I didn't have time to spend on the 
radio but I did work my second European DX with 5W from my K2.  I worked G3PQA 
(I think that was it, my memory may not be 100% since I'm in a training course 
today).  Apparently he is a fairly big "Top Band" station.  It took a little 
while until he got my callsign, but afterward, he did say "Nice job for 5W" so 
I was happy!

Mark, NK8Q

>From: "Darwin, Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Wed Jan 11 11:19:39 CST 2006
>To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>Subject: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?

>K1 or K2.  Hmmm, the debate continues.  But wait, we're approaching a
>sunspot min.  My antennas are pretty limited.  I have a 28 foot vertical
>(fed with a tuner near the base) for 40 thru 15 and a dipole at 25 feet
>but that is about it.  No towers, no high wires, no yagis.
> 
>How limiting will 5 or 10 watts (even with that Elecraft Mojo) be under
>current conditions?  Are we entering into conditions where QRP with
>simple antennas will become rather frustrating?  Is it K2/100 time?
> 
>- Keith KD1E -
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Re: [Elecraft] 14.9V to KX1?

2006-01-11 Thread Chris Kantarjiev
> I think you're giving too little thought to the quality of your power 
> supplies.

Jim,

Not at all - and this kind of comment is exactly why I posted - thanks.

Lower weight is only part of the equation, and I recognize that - I'm 
new at this game and still trying to understand all the tradeoffs. 
Suffice it to say that I'll be looking for a small regulated
switcher at the local surplus place, because I think that is more
what I want (I'll take my KX-1 along and listen for noise...) 

73 de chris K6DBG
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Re: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?

2006-01-11 Thread Vic K2VCO

Darwin, Keith wrote:


How limiting will 5 or 10 watts (even with that Elecraft Mojo) be under
current conditions?  Are we entering into conditions where QRP with
simple antennas will become rather frustrating?  Is it K2/100 time?


You can still make plenty of contacts with 10 watts.  During the day, 20 
meters is usually open, and 40 in the evening.  I worked Europe from 
here (California) with 5 watts on 40 meters during a sunspot minimum 
with a vertical.  30 meters can be quite good as well.  If you could get 
another 10 feet of height for your dipole, that would be a big 
improvement.


But you will make more good QSOs with 100 watts.  My advice is: get the 
KPA100.  You can operate at 5 or 10 watts output as much as you want, 
but you will be able to turn up the power when you are not heard or 
start to have difficulty during a contact.

--
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco
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RE: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?

2006-01-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Keith, KD1E wrote:

K1 or K2.  Hmmm, the debate continues.  But wait, we're approaching a
sunspot min.  My antennas are pretty limited.  I have a 28 foot vertical
(fed with a tuner near the base) for 40 thru 15 and a dipole at 25 feet but
that is about it.  No towers, no high wires, no yagis.
 
How limiting will 5 or 10 watts (even with that Elecraft Mojo) be under
current conditions?  Are we entering into conditions where QRP with simple
antennas will become rather frustrating?  Is it K2/100 time?

-

The difference between 10 and 100 watts (10 dB) is about 1.5 "S" units on
most receivers. Band conditions changing from hour to hour will cause a much
bigger variation that that.

The biggest difference will depend upon whether you focus on working DX as
you primary activity. 

Overall, signal strengths will tend to be slightly lower than we see on 10
meters during the sunspot maxima, so it is true that QRP may suffer
slightly. Unless you're trying to bust a pileup for a rare DX station you
shouldn't notice a lot of difference in your ability to make contacts, even
good stable contacts for long-winded rag chews if you want, as long as you
adjust the bands your using to follow the changes in propagation and the
maximum usable frequency (MUF). 

What you will notice about the sunspot minimum is that the 10 through 18
meter bands will be open less often than they were. Indeed, in the years
around the minimum, you may find that 10 meters is open only sporadically
for short periods of time. Even 20 and occasionally 40 may shut down to long
skip for days. The issue isn't whether a particular band is 'open' but
rather the maximum usable frequency (MUF). Fifteen and ten meters have been
great DX bands during the sunspot maxima because they're typically close to
the MUF. On occasion the MUF even gets as high as 6 meters, and long skip
contacts suddenly become easy there. During the sunspot minima the MUF will
drop down to 14 MHz and, on occasion, even 7 MHz. When that happens those
bands are roaring with DX much like 10 has for years throughout the sunspot
maxima, and the higher frequency bands will be quiet except for locals. 

Still, there's a couple of big differences. First, the ionization of the
lower atmosphere affects lower-frequency signals more. That's why you don't
hear daytime "DX" on the AM standard broadcast band (550 - 1700 kHz) but it
often booms in at night. The ions produced in the lower atmosphere by the
sun absorb those frequencies, but as soon as the sun sets those ions
dissipate and the atmosphere becomes transparent to RF. That effect extends
up to, typically, somewhere between 7 and 15 MHz. As the frequency goes up
the absorption drops. That's why you can work distances with 5 watts on 80,
40 or 20 in the day that no amount of power from a station in the broadcast
band will cover, and the DX gets better as you go up in frequency (as long
as you stay below the MUF). That's also a large part of the reason why,
after dark, better and better DX starts being heard on 160, 80 and 40
meters.

The other big difference is that the typical Ham antenna is much less
efficient for DX work at the lower frequencies. Vertical antennas suffer
greater ground losses and, typically, horizontal antennas are too low for
best DX. A horizontally polarized antenna, no matter the type, needs to be
close to 1/2 wave or higher above the effective ground for best DX coverage.
Most Ham antennas meet that criteria at 14 MHz and above. An antenna 35 feet
up is a full half wave high on 20 meters, for example. Down at 7 or 3.5 MHz,
the antenna needs to be 60 to 120 feet up to be an equivalent electrical
height! That's above what most Hams can manage. Still, lower antennas are
excellent for short skip out to 1,000 or 2,000 miles. They can even do
better than antennas mounted higher up.  

So, no matter the power, if you're looking for consistent DX performance
with a "typical" Ham installation, your bands of choice will shift down
toward 20 and 40 meters instead of the higher frequencies during the sunspot
minima, and your DX opportunities will appear more commonly along the gray
line or during the hours of darkness when atmospheric absorption is a its
lowest. 

For casual contacts and rag chewing, 80 will start to act a lot more like 40
meters has in the past and even 40, 30, and 20 meters will see a lot of
stable short skip at times. 

A little extra power is always a help, but it's often only a psychological
help. My K2/100 is at 100 watts a lot simply because in working a lot of
stations, they "like" to know that I'm running a comparable power because
they hate digging for signals near the noise. My power is always down at QRP
levels when I'm around the QRP calling frequencies (7040, 14060, etc.) One
time I called an OT retired radio operator I know and we had a nice long rag
chew. Predictably, he thanked me for running "decent power", grumbling about
all those QRPers who expect hi

Re: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?

2006-01-11 Thread Tom Althoff
Keith -

I was reading that the predicted low of the current cycle supposedly takes
place this September.

Using my K1 @ 5W there has been an opening to Europe every day for the past
two weeks on 15MI was impressed that there were any stations outside of
the usual North/South paths during sunspot minimums.   I worked 12 different
countries on 15M sometimes hammering out the QSO in a pileup with other
higher power stations in the US.

I'm REALLY impressed with ANYONE running under 100W on 160M!!   5W WAS
on 160M with a 50ft vertical is SUPER-IMPRESSIVE!  Congrats to N6WG.

As others point out 40 and 20 are great havens for QRP operation with very
little frustration and lots of QSO's.

Definitely go for the K2 and upgrade as the need or urge arrives.

73 de Tom K2TA


- Original Message - 
From: "Darwin, Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 12:19 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?


K1 or K2.  Hmmm, the debate continues.  But wait, we're approaching a
sunspot min.  My antennas are pretty limited.  I have a 28 foot vertical
(fed with a tuner near the base) for 40 thru 15 and a dipole at 25 feet
but that is about it.  No towers, no high wires, no yagis.

How limiting will 5 or 10 watts (even with that Elecraft Mojo) be under
current conditions?  Are we entering into conditions where QRP with
simple antennas will become rather frustrating?  Is it K2/100 time?

- Keith KD1E -
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[Elecraft] Re: Weller

2006-01-11 Thread jfedison
Jerry,
Thanks for that advice. I did notice that the tip seemed to be glowing
and that the charing is consistent with the tip being hotter than it
should (ie always on). I checked the magnetic slug and is may have
seized. I also noticed that there was no clicking sound when the problem
charring occured. I have a copy of the WTCPT tech sheet and
troubleshooting guide. My iron is only 2 months old and hadn't expected
it to need repair so soon.

On the WTCPT, how tight should the barrel nut be screwed in? I had been
tightening finger tight but I wonder if it is better to back it off a
few threads?

Regards,
Jeff


<-Original Message-> 
>From: Jeremiah McCarthy
>Sent: 1/11/2006 11:32:11 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Weller
>
>Jeff:
> 
>I use the same 700 degree tips and they last for YEARS!!!...I am an
Elecraft 
>builder who has built more than 50 units plus all the side goodies...
> 
>It sounds like the tip is getting too hot...The magnetic plunger up
inside the 

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Re: [Elecraft] a story that will have a happy ending, soon (slightlyOT)

2006-01-11 Thread Joe Malloy

w2agn wrote:


Dan Barker wrote:

How come this question is on the Elecraft list? Shouldn't it be on 
the QRP-L

list?

Dan / WG4S / K2 #2456

ps: Admittedly, I'm curious about the answer too.

How come the moderator on QRP-L says that NO mention of eBay is
permitted, because the owner of QSL.NET/QTH.NET forbids it

 

For one thing, I am not a member of QRP-L any longer, and for another, 
I was curious if this list was subjected to the same constraints.



But why ask the question in public?  Asking the original poster or the 
moderator of QRP-L in email would have been a less tendentious way of 
getting your answer, it seems to me.


73,

Joe, W2RBA




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[Elecraft] RE: a story that will have a happy ending, soon (slightly OT)

2006-01-11 Thread n7on
Fellow Elecrafters--

It's sad to learn N9PT never completed his K2.  I searched the archives
and he posted a few questions during construction in 2004.

I visited the eBay listing, and it appears his widow believes she's
selling an unfinished K2 when in fact she may be offering a K2 plus KNB2,
KAT2, and KSB2 kits and the MD2 microphone.

Since we Elecrafters are part of a community that looks after its own,
perhaps we can best honor the memory of a fellow member by ensuring his
widow receives fair value for his belongings.

73,

John, N7ON K2/100 S/N 5023

P.S.  I have no interest in the eBay item.  Part of the joy of building
my kits is calling Aptos and placing an order, then eagerly watching the
mailbox for a USPS package.  Next up:  the KSB2 so I'll be ready to help
make NV less rare in next year's RTTY Roundup.
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Re: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?

2006-01-11 Thread Stephen W. Kercel

Keith:

As you have no doubt seen from the other posts, you can do a lot with 
QRP on the low bands. As is clear from such feats as working 
intercontinental DX with 5 W on 160 m, QRP is limiting, but not severely so.


I've done some NVIS calculations for New England. If you're 
interested in working stations within 200 miles, you can do so 
practically every night on 80 meters with 5 Watts to an inverted-V 20 
feet high at the apex.


If you're interested in DX, it is slightly more difficult, but far 
from impossible. If you could get up a full-size 40m dipole 30 feet 
or more off the ground, you'd be able to work Europe on 40 m QRP most 
(but not all) evenings. (Caution: 40 has a tendency to go dead 
between about midnight and sunrise. The flux is presently so low that 
the MUF to most locations drops below 7 MHz late at night. In that 
case you cannot work DX on 40 no matter how much power you run.)


On 80 meters I have a dipole up about 40 feet. My experience this 
winter is that about two nights out of a week, the 80 meter DX 
opening at sunrise in Europe is strong enough that I can make 
contacts with 5 Watts.



A couple of practical thoughts:

Back when I worked in the RF Group at Oak Ridge National lab, we had 
a sign on the wall that said, "A dB is a dB is a dB, and every one is 
just as good as all the others, no matter where they come from." With 
that in mind, and considering that you're giving up 13 dB by reducing 
transmitter power from 100 to 5 Watts, you need to think about were 
else you can pick up some extra dBs. For example:


1) Put up the biggest highest antenna that you can. If you have a 20 
foot high antenna, but could raise it to 25 feet, do so. It is worth 
the trouble doing.


2) If you cannot make your antenna system work for you, at least try 
to get it where it does not work against you. Avoid wave traps and 
tuning networks if possible. If you must use a Tuner or a matching 
network, make it out of the heaviest components you can; you want to 
minimize losses. Use the biggest transmission line you can afford and 
run it with the lowest SWR you can achieve. Make as direct a run from 
the transmitter to the antenna as possible, with as few breaks in the 
line and as few items inserted into the line (filters, directional 
couplers, ferrite baluns/isolators, etc.) as you can get away with.


3) In keeping with the above principle, you might want to try to set 
up dedicated 80 and 40 meter antennas and not worry about the high 
bands for the next couple of years. Multiband antennas will always be 
lossier than single band antennas.


4) Listen for the very loudest DX signal you can find and call that 
one. If one DX station is is markedly louder than the other DX, he's 
likely using a high gain antenna. One of the best tricks in QRP DX is 
making the other guy's high gain antenna work for you.


5) Your biggest source of extra dBs is the ionosphere. Use VOACAP to 
compute when the strongest openings from your location will occur, 
and operate at those times. (VOACAP is downloadable for free. It is 
well documented and easy to learn. To find out more, simply Google VOACAP.)


73,

Steve
AA4AK


At 12:19 PM 1/11/2006, Darwin, Keith wrote:

K1 or K2.  Hmmm, the debate continues.  But wait, we're approaching a
sunspot min.  My antennas are pretty limited.  I have a 28 foot vertical
(fed with a tuner near the base) for 40 thru 15 and a dipole at 25 feet
but that is about it.  No towers, no high wires, no yagis.

How limiting will 5 or 10 watts (even with that Elecraft Mojo) be under
current conditions?  Are we entering into conditions where QRP with
simple antennas will become rather frustrating?  Is it K2/100 time?

- Keith KD1E -
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Re: [Elecraft] Another K1 on the air

2006-01-11 Thread Thom R LaCosta

On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'm happy to announce the addition of a new little one, K1 S/N 2124, who joined 
his big brother K2 S/N 2152 on January 7, 2006.  His loud cries with 5 watts on 
40 meters into a dipole at 50 feet were first heard by Buki, YT7YT who said he 
was about 569.  Hiro, VE3CGC later told him that he was a robust 589 into 
Ontario.


Jeezand I don;t smoke anymore, so  I can't enjoy the cigarbut, you and 
others with new additions can add them to the birth registry of Elecraft rigs 
at http://www.zerobeat.net/qrp/k2data.html


We are an equal opportunity listing service, newborns, adoptees and even 
purchased units can be listed.


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Re: [Elecraft] a story that will have a happy ending, soon (slightlyOT)

2006-01-11 Thread Thom R LaCosta

On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Joe Malloy wrote:



But why ask the question in public?  Asking the original poster or the 
moderator of QRP-L in email would have been a less tendentious way of getting 
your answer, it seems to me.


Perhaps there is a previous track record of the moderator of QRP-L not 
answering questions from various individuals.


Thom

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Re: [Elecraft] a story that will have a happy ending, soon (slightlyOT)

2006-01-11 Thread w2agn

Joe Malloy wrote:




But why ask the question in public?  Asking the original poster or the 
moderator of QRP-L in email would have been a less tendentious way of 
getting your answer, it seems to me.


73,

Joe, W2RBA






So sorry. Of course, YOUR public post slapping my wrist is not 
"tendentious." (Bet that has folks at their dictionaries...or asking 
their 8th graders). But then, in gives one such a warm, fuzzy feeling to 
be righteously indignant.


;-)

John W2AGN
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Re: [Elecraft] Re: Weller

2006-01-11 Thread John Young

Jerry
  I had the same problem with a WTCP at work.  We replaced it and the
bad one was recovered before it hit the trash can.
The magnetic switch in the barrel was stuck 'on' and never cycled.  When
all else failed I gave it a good wack on the bench.
That was enough to free the switch.  It's given me good service for 30
years now, with most tips lasting several years.

Warning - do not try this at home without proper training.

John
WA8KNE

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Jerry,
Thanks for that advice. I did notice that the tip seemed to be glowing
and that the charing is consistent with the tip being hotter than it
should (ie always on). I checked the magnetic slug and is may have
seized. I also noticed that there was no clicking sound when the problem
charring occured. I have a copy of the WTCPT tech sheet and
troubleshooting guide. My iron is only 2 months old and hadn't expected
it to need repair so soon.

On the WTCPT, how tight should the barrel nut be screwed in? I had been
tightening finger tight but I wonder if it is better to back it off a
few threads?

Regards,
Jeff


<-Original Message-> 
 


From: Jeremiah McCarthy
Sent: 1/11/2006 11:32:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Weller

Jeff:

I use the same 700 degree tips and they last for YEARS!!!...I am an
   

Elecraft 
 


builder who has built more than 50 units plus all the side goodies...

It sounds like the tip is getting too hot...The magnetic plunger up
   

inside the 


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RE: [Elecraft] a story that will have a happy ending, soon (slightlyOT)

2006-01-11 Thread Dan Barker
a) We don't have an answer yet, and
b) I'm not sure tendentious means what Joe thinks it means. Dictionary.com
sez: "Marked by a strong tendency in favor of a particular point of view."
Heck, he's just asking a question. I figured it had something to do with
typing, as tendons are used.

Dan


So sorry. Of course, YOUR public post slapping my wrist is not
"tendentious." (Bet that has folks at their dictionaries...or asking their
8th graders).


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Re: [Elecraft] More ECN errata

2006-01-11 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.

Kevin,
I still remember my father sending me M I S S I S S A U G A when I was 5 
and learning CW.

Leigh / WA5ZNU

On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 7:01 pm, Kevin Rock wrote:
...
Now there is one for the CW exam :)  Just when you think you have a 
string they switch states on you!  Mine had Athens, Louisiana in it.  I 
was thinking Georgia but no that was not the case.

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Re: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?

2006-01-11 Thread Ed - K9EW
Fear not the sunspot cycle, Darwin.  In the past 18 months, I have completed
WAS with 5w and a dipole.  I currently have 49 states with 1 watt, and 44
states with 100mW.  I think I enjoy the challenge of the sunspot trough more
than "shooting fish in a barrel" during the sunspot peak.  The feeling of
accomplishment is greater.  Just be patient, and when the bands are good,
get on and make some QSO's.  When condx are poor, read up on what makes for
good propagation conditions.

72 es good luck,
ed - k9ew
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Re: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?

2006-01-11 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy

Keith,

If you want to hear how strong signals from a 100, 10 , 1 or 0.1 watt 
transmitter can be in real time, take a listen to the International Beacon 
Project stations on 20m through 10m. These beacons are located across the 
world, and transmit in sequence on each band. When it is a particular 
beacon's turn to transmit, it sends its call in CW followed by four long 
dashes - one at 100w followed by one at 10w, one at 1w and lastly one at 
0.1mW. Then the next beacon does the same. Each beacon is given 10 seconds 
transmission time. The transmitters operate 24 hours a day, seven days a 
week, and somewhere I have the details of their antennas which I think are 
all omnidirectional verticals. Their frequencies are 14100, 18110, 21150, 
24930 and 28200 kHz , and these beacons are a very useful 'tool' for 
catching band openings especially on 12m and 10m at this point in the solar 
cycle. It is surprising how often 10m is open even now but no ham signals 
are heard because everybody is listening, or is elsewhere.


It is my belief that in working DX a very important thing is a good calling 
technique. A continental friend of mine runs 100mW, works DX on 40m, and it 
is a treat to hear him drop in his call whilst the mob catches its breath.


73,
Geoff
GM4ESD


Keith, KD1E, wrote on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 5:19 PM

K1 or K2.  Hmmm, the debate continues.  But wait, we're approaching a
sunspot min.  My antennas are pretty limited.  I have a 28 foot vertical
(fed with a tuner near the base) for 40 thru 15 and a dipole at 25 feet
but that is about it.  No towers, no high wires, no yagis.

How limiting will 5 or 10 watts (even with that Elecraft Mojo) be under
current conditions?  Are we entering into conditions where QRP with
simple antennas will become rather frustrating?  Is it K2/100 time?

- Keith KD1E -





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[Elecraft] Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata)

2006-01-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Leigh wrote:
I still remember my father sending me M I S S I S S A U G A when I was 5 and
learning CW.

-

Learning not to anticipate letters is invaluable. It was critical for
accurately copying five letter groups of random letters, numbers and
punctuation marks (including things like $, (,), # etc) which we did for the
commercial radiotelegraph exam years ago. 

That helps avoid lots of mistakes and lost copy too when you're surprised
that what you thought the word was isn't . 

Trivia item: probably 90% of the Hams know the Morse for the ampersand (&)
and don't realize it. It's "ES" or dit, dit-dit-dit. 

Ron AC7AC

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[Elecraft] Which Heil Headphone is suitable?

2006-01-11 Thread Karsten Eppert(DK4AS)
I am looking for a Headset from Heil with microphone, which incorporates 
the feature of the "quiet phone" and can´t find out which one that would 
be. Can anybody give me a hint, what the products name would be and 
whether I need an additional adaptor?
At present I run my K2 with the Heil MD2 as delivered from elecraft. I 
purchased the entire K2 and MD2-set directly from elecraft, but would 
not wish to bother with importing from US only for the headset when I 
possibly can order from a local dealer.

73
Karsten

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RE: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?

2006-01-11 Thread ROBERT CARROLL
I use the beacons as a propagation tool.  Recently there have been many days
when I can hear very few and no strong beacon signals on any band.  On days
like these you will be hard pressed to work dx on any band at any power.
However from time to time at QRO you can make some surprising contacts.  One
I was pleased with lately was Singapore on 80m at sunset.  That contact
could not have been made at QRP. Interestingly enough the view of 10 years
ago that when the HF bands are at their worst due to an inactive sun,
160m-40m will be at their best.  This certainly seemed to be true a number
of cycles back, but not in the last two cycles.  

During good propagation conditions it is possible to work good DX on 160m
with 100W or somewhat less, but if you look at the leaders on the band they
are nearly all QRO.

I tend to park my QRP gear when the cycle goes sour and to use it a lot in
better parts of a decent cycle. Nothing like the thrill of a long haul DX
contact with QRP, but you may want to haul out a bigger rig or amp on many
days till the sun starts being more active.  

Bob W2WG

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoffrey
Mackenzie-Kennedy
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 4:07 PM
To: Darwin, Keith
Cc: Elecraft Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?

Keith,

If you want to hear how strong signals from a 100, 10 , 1 or 0.1 watt 
transmitter can be in real time, take a listen to the International Beacon 
Project stations on 20m through 10m. These beacons are located across the 
world, and transmit in sequence on each band. When it is a particular 
beacon's turn to transmit, it sends its call in CW followed by four long 
dashes - one at 100w followed by one at 10w, one at 1w and lastly one at 
0.1mW. Then the next beacon does the same. Each beacon is given 10 seconds 
transmission time. The transmitters operate 24 hours a day, seven days a 
week, and somewhere I have the details of their antennas which I think are 
all omnidirectional verticals. Their frequencies are 14100, 18110, 21150, 
24930 and 28200 kHz , and these beacons are a very useful 'tool' for 
catching band openings especially on 12m and 10m at this point in the solar 
cycle. It is surprising how often 10m is open even now but no ham signals 
are heard because everybody is listening, or is elsewhere.

It is my belief that in working DX a very important thing is a good calling 
technique. A continental friend of mine runs 100mW, works DX on 40m, and it 
is a treat to hear him drop in his call whilst the mob catches its breath.

73,
Geoff
GM4ESD


Keith, KD1E, wrote on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 5:19 PM

K1 or K2.  Hmmm, the debate continues.  But wait, we're approaching a
sunspot min.  My antennas are pretty limited.  I have a 28 foot vertical
(fed with a tuner near the base) for 40 thru 15 and a dipole at 25 feet
but that is about it.  No towers, no high wires, no yagis.

How limiting will 5 or 10 watts (even with that Elecraft Mojo) be under
current conditions?  Are we entering into conditions where QRP with
simple antennas will become rather frustrating?  Is it K2/100 time?

- Keith KD1E -





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RE: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?

2006-01-11 Thread Darwin, Keith
Thanks for the replies.  Much of it is info that I do already know,
having worked QRP for a number of years.  The thing I DON'T have is the
experience of working QRP during various phases of the sunspot cycle.
My ham activity has always gone in blips and blops and has been mostly
out of phase with the 11 yr solar cycle.  In other words, I get
interested and active when we're near a low point and become inactive
during the peaks.  I've done it that way since the early 1980s :-)

I find as I work folks on 40, I'm glad to have a "full" 80 watts.  Noise
level is high, QSB is an issue, QRM is an issue.  Yea, 5 watts is only
1.5 S-units down but that makes a difference when conditions are not
optimal.  Last night, after aligning my rig, I happen to catch HA3MQ (?)
on 40 CW.  He was fluttery but I could copy so I answered him.  We did
the usual short exchange.  He gave me 559, I gave him 449.  Turns out he
was running 100 watts to a Yagi at 30 meters.  So even when using the
other guy's beam, we pretty much needed the power to make the QSO.  I
don't know, maybe 5 watts would have done it, but I doubt it.

I guess the way to find out is to just turn my rig down to 5 watts for a
few weeks and see if I'm still having fun ...

73!

- Keith -
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Re: [Elecraft] a story that will have a happy ending, soon (slightly OT)

2006-01-11 Thread Bob Nielsen


On Jan 11, 2006, at 6:24 AM, w2agn wrote:


Steve Jackson wrote:


I was surfing on eBay and found auction #5852424318
for a partially-built K2, under circumstances I have
not seen before -- and certainly wish that it was not
so.
The rig is being sold by the owner's widow.
I did not know the sk N9PT myself, but I'd bet a
dollar he'd have wanted that rig completed and put on
the air.  I wish I could buy it myself and do just
that!

Hopefully the new owner will come on here and let us
know when this particular radio is finished.



I really must ask. How come the moderator on QRP-L says that NO  
mention of eBay is permitted, because the owner of QSL.NET/QTH.NET  
forbids it, yet I see it frequently here on the Elecraft list?  
Could there be some prevarication involved here?


I believe that qth.net was using a filter which dropped any messages  
with a mention of that site.  Perhaps that has changed or maybe this  
combination of upper/lower case didn't get caught by the filter.


It wasn't list-specific.

Bob, N7XY

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Re: [Elecraft] Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata)

2006-01-11 Thread Fred Jensen
Ahh yes, I remember ES from a year as a costal marine relief operator at 
16.  What I have forgotten, and it's only been a year or so, is the new 
prosign for "@" that was invented.


Fred K6DGW
Auburn CA CM98lw


Trivia item: probably 90% of the Hams know the Morse for the ampersand (&)
and don't realize it. It's "ES" or dit, dit-dit-dit. 

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Re: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?

2006-01-11 Thread Paul Meier

All the DX is still out there, it's just quieter!

Paul K7PM
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Re: [Elecraft] Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata)

2006-01-11 Thread Bob Nielsen


On Jan 11, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

Ahh yes, I remember ES from a year as a costal marine relief  
operator at 16.  What I have forgotten, and it's only been a year  
or so, is the new prosign for "@" that was invented.


Dah-di-dah-di-di-dah (CA, as in "commercial at").

73, Bob N7XY

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Re: [Elecraft] eBay permission - END of Thread

2006-01-11 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft

Guys - Lets end this thread immediately. No more postings, please.

It is absolutely OK to mention eBay listings here when the items are
among the areas we already say are OK to mention for sale on this
reflector. (Elecraft items, related ham stuff etc.) To my knowledge each
list owner can make their own decision on what is OK to post. There is
no global edict from qth.net.

And guys, if you have a problem with someone's posting, please never
post your complaint to the list. We have enough traffic without postings
of that type and there is no justification for public statements of this
type.

Personal attacks (on or -off- list) may result in removal from the list
at my discretion. Let's remember that this is a relaxed, cordial group,
and there is no excuse to directly and personally criticize anyone -
period. :-) If you have a problem, feel you have been wronged,
slandered, etc., please email me directly and I'll make the decision on
how to deal with it.

Just keep repeating: "Its only a hobby, Its only a hobby..." ;-)

73, Eric   WA6HHQ
Elecraft list moderator


w2agn wrote:
So sorry. Of course, YOUR public post slapping my wrist is not 
"tendentious." (Bet that has folks at their dictionaries...or asking 
their 8th graders). But then, in gives one such a warm, fuzzy feeling 
to be righteously indignant.


;-)

John W2AGN



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RE: [Elecraft] Which Heil Headphone is suitable?

2006-01-11 Thread Don Wilhelm
Karsten,

I believe what you are looking for is listed at
http://www.heilsound.com/amateur/pro_set_quiet_phone.htm - for operation
with the K2, you may need the mic element for the Icom, the HC4 and HC5
elements usually need a preamp to properly operate with the K2 - and you may
need an adapter (or build your own).  A note to Bob Heil may be the best way
to have your questions properly addressed.

73,
Don W3FPR

> -Original Message-
>
> I am looking for a Headset from Heil with microphone, which incorporates
> the feature of the "quiet phone" and can´t find out which one that would
> be. Can anybody give me a hint, what the products name would be and
> whether I need an additional adaptor?
> At present I run my K2 with the Heil MD2 as delivered from elecraft. I
> purchased the entire K2 and MD2-set directly from elecraft, but would
> not wish to bother with importing from US only for the headset when I
> possibly can order from a local dealer.
> 73
> Karsten
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] a story that will have a happy ending, soon (slightlyOT)

2006-01-11 Thread Larry - WA2DGD

Hello all,

Regarding QRP-l and the mention of E-bay. I made the mistake of trying 
to help some fellow hams out who were looking for 2 meter crystals and 
pointed them to an E-bay auction, I did this on QRP-l.

Since that incident, all my posts are now "awaiting moderator approval".
I questioned the moderator about this and was pointed to the following URL:

http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/qrp-l

specifically

"While this list may be used to buy, sell, trade or seek QRP equipment 
for sale, no auctions are to be conducted, discussed, facilitated or 
referred to in any way. Violators of this policy will be subject to 
moderation without notice. To be clear, this pertains especially to 
eBay. Anyone using the list to promote his own auction will be removed 
from the list without warning. "


So, please don't make the same foolish mistake I made. You will find 
yourself banished to the "Pointless Forest". I have learned my lesson, 
the rules must be obeyed or you will be in trouble.


They are watching.
73
Larry

Dan Barker wrote:


a) We don't have an answer yet, and
b) I'm not sure tendentious means what Joe thinks it means. Dictionary.com
sez: "Marked by a strong tendency in favor of a particular point of view."
Heck, he's just asking a question. I figured it had something to do with
typing, as tendons are used.

 



--
73
Larry
WA2DGD


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RE: [Elecraft] [Fwd: K2 VCO, wrong frequency] **FIXED**

2006-01-11 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bill,

The chart is correct if one considers the active state of the signal - but
you will not see that with a DMM, only possible with a 'scope.  So, yes the
chart is incorrect if you consider the normal voltage that you will read
with a DMM.  These are the serial clock and serial data lines coming from
the microprocessor and are not really meaningful unless you setup with a
delayed sweep 'scope and know the bit pattern that should be present - not a
task for those of us who do not have the microprocessor code being executed
available - that is Elecraft proprietary.  It further complicates things
because the microprocessor 'sleeps' whenever it can to minimize any digital
noise.

73,
Don W3FPR

> -Original Message-
>
> I still think the voltage chart for U4 pin 5 and 7 is incorrect (and the
> places they connect to).  Will report back later when I make it through
> the rest of Part 2 alignment.
>
> 73,   Bill  N2BC
>

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[Elecraft] Re: Elecraft postings blocked by sorbs etc as SPAM

2006-01-11 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft

Hi Dave,

It is probably not anything directly related to your email content. Qth.net, 
like many major ISPs, uses several methods to prevent their system's overload by 
floods of spam. One method is to use the blacklists hosted at 
http://www.us.sorbs.net/  (See this page for more details.)


Your ISP's mail server, the same one you use to send email, may have another 
user whose computer is infected by a SPAM sending virus and is in turn flooding 
the net with SPAM emails. When this happens the sorbs server temporarily 
blacklists your email server's address so everyone can block the SPAM before it 
overloads their main mail systems. Unfortunately this also blocks all legitimate 
emails sent via that send mail SMTP server. Fortunately your ISP is usually very 
 motivated to find the offending party so their server can become un-blocked. 
Typically these blocks are lifted after a day or two.


So check to see if you can send after waiting a day or more. If it is still 
blocked, feel free to email us at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we will 
repost for you while this gets sorted out.


73, Eric  WA6HHQ
Elecraft List Moderator


Dave Sublette wrote:

Eric,

I don't seem to be able to post to the Elecraft list. I have been having 
trouble for about a week.  One reject I recieved from when I was on the 
road at the Opryland  Hotel said something about being identified as a 
source of SpamI don't spam. Is there something wrong with my 
subscription status?


Thanks for looking into this.

73,

Dave Sublette, K4TO



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Re: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?

2006-01-11 Thread BPCI
 
 
In a message dated 1/11/2006 1:27:55 PM Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Fear not  the sunspot cycle, Darwin.  In the past 18 months, I have  completed
WAS with 5w and a dipole.  I currently have 49 states with 1  watt, and 44
states with 100mW. 

Well, I guess that ends me whining about poor propagation and not making  
many contacts. Thanks for sharing these fantastic achievements--it is truly  
motivating...72/73, Ci

 
Ci Jones,  WU7R K-2 #4615, K-1 #933, KX-1 #957
FISTS #10789
NAQCC #306
ARCI  #12163
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[Elecraft] test

2006-01-11 Thread Tom Skinner
test
 
Tom, KJ3D
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[Elecraft] Latest WAS Award Winner

2006-01-11 Thread Larry Makoski W2LJ

Dear Fellow Elecrafters,

I would like to take this opportunity, on behalf of all the good folks 
at Elecraft, to publicly congratulate Bruce Hagerty, WØQQS upon his 
earning the coveted Elecraft Worked All States Award.
Bruce used his K2 sn 3646 to complete the required QSOs with all 50 
United States.  That Bruce earned certificate #43 is a testament to the 
fact that this award is quite an achievement; and is not issued lightly.


Congratulations, Bruce, your certificate is making its way to you via 
the ever reliable and dependable Unites States Postal Service.


Now there may be newer Elecrafters out there who are not familiar with 
the Elecraft Awards Program.  There are quite a few to shoot for. One is 
quite easy; but the others vary in degree of difficulty.  Rather than go 
into the details here, I would ask you to visit:


http://www.qsl.net/w2lj/index%20page%2010.html

That we are in a sunspot minimum would make the achievement of earning 
one of these awards all the sweeter!


I hope to see your application for one of these awards in my mailbox soon!

73 de Larry W2LJ
Your humble Elecraft Awards Administrator

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RE: [Elecraft] Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata)

2006-01-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Bob, N7XY wrote:

> Ahh yes, I remember ES from a year as a costal marine relief
> operator at 16.  What I have forgotten, and it's only been a year  
> or so, is the new prosign for "@" that was invented.

Dah-di-dah-di-di-dah (CA, as in "commercial at").


Uh, oh! I based my use of "CA" on this announcement from the ARRL last April
30:


==>NEW MORSE "@"; CHARACTER BECOMES OFFICIAL MAY 3

The International Morse code officially gains a new character on May 3.
That's when the now-familiar "@"; symbol joins the Morse lexicon as the
letters "AC" run together (.--.-.). Known as the "commercial at" or
"commat," the @ symbol never rose to the level of usage that demanded a
unique Morse character until it gained currency as a critical component of
e-mail addresses during the past decade or so.

Last December, the International Telecommunication Union
Radiocommunication Sector (ITU-R) Study Group 8 agreed on the wording of a
Draft New Recommendation ITU-R M.[MORSE] that specified the international
Morse code character set and transmission procedures and included the new
Morse code character.

The pending change has attracted some attention in the media, including
mentions on National Public Radio's All Things Considered and in The New
York Times.



Will the REAL Morse "@" please stand up? 

Ron AC7AC

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Re: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?

2006-01-11 Thread Larry Makoski W2LJ

Darwin, Keith wrote:


K1 or K2.  Hmmm, the debate continues.  But wait, we're approaching a
sunspot min.  My antennas are pretty limited.  I have a 28 foot vertical
(fed with a tuner near the base) for 40 thru 15 and a dipole at 25 feet
but that is about it.  No towers, no high wires, no yagis.

How limiting will 5 or 10 watts (even with that Elecraft Mojo) be under
current conditions?  Are we entering into conditions where QRP with
simple antennas will become rather frustrating?  Is it K2/100 time?

- Keith KD1E -
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Keith,

Fear not fellow Elecrafter!  We QRPers laugh at the sunspot minimum!  
Sunspots .. who needs 'em?


I know, actually we all do. But to be serious   as bad as band 
conditions were in 2005, I managed to make at least one QRP CW QSO 
everyday in 2005.  If you want to check out some of who I worked (and 
there was a goodly bit of DX mixed in) then please check out: 
http://www.qsl.net/w2lj/index%20page%209.html


My antennas are not much more substantial (if any) than yours.  I have a 
G5RV at 25 feet and a Butternut HF9V vertical which is ground mounted in 
the backyard.  To me it seems that if you don't spend too much time 
concentrating on what you think are deficiencies; but go out with the 
aim to just have fun, then you will be amazed at what you can accomplish!


73 de Larry W2LJ
K1# 1647, K2# 4090

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RE: [Elecraft] Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata)

2006-01-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
That was an EASY one for me, just check my call sign. It's
di-dah-dah-di-dah-dit! Or "AC" as a prosign (run together as one character).

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 3:14 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata)


Ahh yes, I remember ES from a year as a costal marine relief operator at 
16.  What I have forgotten, and it's only been a year or so, is the new 
prosign for "@" that was invented.

Fred K6DGW
Auburn CA CM98lw

> Trivia item: probably 90% of the Hams know the Morse for the ampersand
> (&) and don't realize it. It's "ES" or dit, dit-dit-dit.
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Re: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?

2006-01-11 Thread Tony Morgan

K9QRG ON 5/12?
Just checking  :>)

Tony W7GO
- Original Message - 
From: "Larry Makoski W2LJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Darwin, Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?



Darwin, Keith wrote:


K1 or K2.  Hmmm, the debate continues.  But wait, we're approaching a
sunspot min.  My antennas are pretty limited.  I have a 28 foot vertical
(fed with a tuner near the base) for 40 thru 15 and a dipole at 25 feet
but that is about it.  No towers, no high wires, no yagis.

How limiting will 5 or 10 watts (even with that Elecraft Mojo) be under
current conditions?  Are we entering into conditions where QRP with
simple antennas will become rather frustrating?  Is it K2/100 time?

- Keith KD1E -
___
 


Keith,

Fear not fellow Elecrafter!  We QRPers laugh at the sunspot minimum!  
Sunspots .. who needs 'em?


I know, actually we all do. But to be serious   as bad as band 
conditions were in 2005, I managed to make at least one QRP CW QSO 
everyday in 2005.  If you want to check out some of who I worked (and 
there was a goodly bit of DX mixed in) then please check out: 
http://www.qsl.net/w2lj/index%20page%209.html


My antennas are not much more substantial (if any) than yours.  I have a 
G5RV at 25 feet and a Butternut HF9V vertical which is ground mounted in 
the backyard.  To me it seems that if you don't spend too much time 
concentrating on what you think are deficiencies; but go out with the 
aim to just have fun, then you will be amazed at what you can accomplish!


73 de Larry W2LJ
K1# 1647, K2# 4090

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[Elecraft] Re: Elecraft Digest, Vol 21, Issue 15

2006-01-11 Thread G. Beat

Weller Soldering Tip Care and Use (Adobe Acrobat)
can be found on their web site, as well as other helpful documents on 
soldering:

http://www.cooperhandtools.com/brands/electronic_applications/index.htm

The PTF tip is a 1/32" (0.031") conical flat tip -- VERY SMALL tip surface 
area and useful for some surface mount work.

Always remember to match you tip to the surfaces being soldered
(YES, it means that you sometimes have to change a tip -- just like changing 
a drill bit).

For the PTF, I try to avoid 800 degree tips due to the tip size.
700 is better and some users may prefer 600 degree -
depending upon the work (heat sensitive components, etc)

Electronix Express web page has very good graphics to show the tip and its 
plating

http://www.elexp.com/t_solder.htm

===
I find older TCP-1 irons where the SW-60 magnetic switch has seized  
and a "wack" on the bench does not always solve the problem.   :-)
When a TCP series is used in production workbenches (24x7x7),
the SW-60 switch cycles about 124,800 times each year (assuming one cycle 
per minute on average)

I don't know of many light switches that survive that many cycles !
This is one of the areas I check when refurbishing units from unknown 
operations


Weller added a 3 amp fuse in the 24 VAC line in models after about 1970 
(WTCP-L; WTCPK; WTCPN; WTCPS) of the TCP series.
This was a useful change to prevent shorted SW-60 (runaway heaters) and 
heaters that fail as dead short.
I add this fuse, if not present, to almost every pre-WTCPT station that I 
refurbish.  In fact many "dead base units" just have a blown 3 amp fuse 
inside !!


When they got to the WTCPT model 15 years ago, they switched the fuse to the 
120 VAC primary winding of the transformer.


Greg
w9gb

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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 6:54 PM

Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 09:37:40 +
From: "Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/KC8NHF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Weller WTCPT tip longevity

The tip will last until the iron coating wears through and the copper
slug physically erodes.
I would suspect that the switch contacts in the handle of your iron have
broken or welded closed.
If viewed in the dark, an "always on" TCP will get red hot.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I use a PTF7 solder tip on my WTCPT and recently found that after about
5 minutes of use, the tip suddenly starts to develop a thick char at the
end and makes the solder turn dark. I replaced the tip with a newer one
(<5 hours of use) and the same thing happens to that one. I will next
try a brand new tip to see if the same thing happens. Either the problem
is with the tip or it is with the heater/barrel nut assembly
contaminating the tip. Has anyone experienced the same thing? How long
should a typical solder tip last? Has anyone found a tip cleaning or
storage method that helps prolong tip life?

Thanks.
Jeff Fedison in Niskayuna, NY



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Re: [Elecraft] Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata)

2006-01-11 Thread Kevin Rock
Good Grief Folks!   At (@) is simple di-dah dah :)   I wondered why they 
made it so complicated when the entire word is much shorter.


Kevin.  KD5ONS

By the way: the AND sign comes from American Morse.  It is truly a single 
character with one of those odd length spaces rife in American Morse.

   KJR


On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:13:33 -0800, Fred Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ahh yes, I remember ES from a year as a costal marine relief operator at 
16.  What I have forgotten, and it's only been a year or so, is the new 
prosign for "@" that was invented.


Fred K6DGW
Auburn CA CM98lw

Trivia item: probably 90% of the Hams know the Morse for the ampersand 
(&)

and don't realize it. It's "ES" or dit, dit-dit-dit.

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RE: [Elecraft] Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata)

2006-01-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Try sending the e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. 

All of the characters on the keyboard have Morse equivalents defined by the
ITU to avoid confusion. 

I guess that's why we're confused.

The & may have originated in American Morse, but the ITU recognizes it as
the prosign 'ES'.

Ron AC7AC



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Rock
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 6:23 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata)


Good Grief Folks!   At (@) is simple di-dah dah :)   I wondered why they 
made it so complicated when the entire word is much shorter.

Kevin.  KD5ONS

By the way: the AND sign comes from American Morse.  It is truly a single 
character with one of those odd length spaces rife in American Morse.
KJR

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Re: [Elecraft] Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata)

2006-01-11 Thread Thom R LaCosta

On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Kevin Rock wrote:

Good Grief Folks!   At (@) is simple di-dah dah :)   I wondered why they made 
it so complicated when the entire word is much shorter.


Some of us old, imfirm, QLF types might confuse that with W (g)

What corfuses a lot of folks is the ~


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[Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata))

2006-01-11 Thread Stephanie Maks
I don't think I ever got the hang of the prosigns...  I got the AR.   
To me, BT is a dash (-) but I don't know if that's correct or not.  I  
sometimes get the ',' and '?' confused.  The / character I know well,  
because I always hear it on our local repeater ident, and it it's in  
my beacon's ident (va3grr/b).


But how can you tell an ES from the letter H?  The other ones,  
the AR, BT, the / character, all have 'unique' sounds when you hear  
them, right?  Isn't ES the same as 'h'?  Or am I completely lost?


73 de Stephanie
va3uxb
K1 # 02132

p.s. As an aside, I stumbled onto the W1AW code practice session last  
night on 80 meters; that's a great tool for helping build code speed  
and confidence.  I got about 80% of the 10wpm, so I'm not doing as  
bad as I thought.  I was only getting about 50% of the 13wpm but I  
probably would have done better if I was writing it down.  This  
morning I looked up the W1AW schedule so I'll know when to find them  
again.  It's much better, in my opinion, than tapes or computer- 
generated stuff, because it's 'real', over the air.  The computer  
stuff and tapes always seemed to me to be too sterile, too perfect.   
Perhaps too boring and too dull.



On 11-Jan-2006, at 21.33.43, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:


Try sending the e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED].

All of the characters on the keyboard have Morse equivalents  
defined by the

ITU to avoid confusion.

I guess that's why we're confused.

The & may have originated in American Morse, but the ITU recognizes  
it as

the prosign 'ES'.

Ron AC7AC



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Rock
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 6:23 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata)


Good Grief Folks!   At (@) is simple di-dah dah :)   I wondered why  
they

made it so complicated when the entire word is much shorter.

Kevin.  KD5ONS

By the way: the AND sign comes from American Morse.  It is truly a  
single

character with one of those odd length spaces rife in American Morse.
KJR


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Re: [Elecraft] a story that will have a happy ending, soon (slightlyOT)

2006-01-11 Thread Kevin Rock

Gee, that's simple.  The folks on the Elecraft list are much nicer :)
   Kevin.  KD5ONS


On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 09:30:39 -0500, Dan Barker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:


How come this question is on the Elecraft list? Shouldn't it be on the 
QRP-L

list?

Dan / WG4S / K2 #2456

ps: Admittedly, I'm curious about the answer too.

How come the moderator on QRP-L says that NO mention of eBay is
permitted, because the owner of QSL.NET/QTH.NET forbids it


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RE: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?

2006-01-11 Thread Kevin Shaw
I've been playing around with EZNEC trying to come up with a DX antenna that
will work at my QTH. The vertical dipole seems to have a fantastic pattern
for DX with low takeoff angles. I may be able to hang a vertical wire dipole
in one of my trees and have it nearly invisible. Anyone have experience with
vertical dipoles that they could share?

Thanks,

Kevin
N8IQ


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Morgan
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 8:39 PM
To: Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?

K9QRG ON 5/12?
Just checking  :>)

Tony W7GO
- Original Message - 
From: "Larry Makoski W2LJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Darwin, Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?


> Darwin, Keith wrote:
> 
>>K1 or K2.  Hmmm, the debate continues.  But wait, we're approaching a
>>sunspot min.  My antennas are pretty limited.  I have a 28 foot vertical
>>(fed with a tuner near the base) for 40 thru 15 and a dipole at 25 feet
>>but that is about it.  No towers, no high wires, no yagis.
>> 
>>How limiting will 5 or 10 watts (even with that Elecraft Mojo) be under
>>current conditions?  Are we entering into conditions where QRP with
>>simple antennas will become rather frustrating?  Is it K2/100 time?
>> 
>>- Keith KD1E -
>>___
>>  
>>
> Keith,
> 
> Fear not fellow Elecrafter!  We QRPers laugh at the sunspot minimum!  
> Sunspots .. who needs 'em?
> 
> I know, actually we all do. But to be serious   as bad as band 
> conditions were in 2005, I managed to make at least one QRP CW QSO 
> everyday in 2005.  If you want to check out some of who I worked (and 
> there was a goodly bit of DX mixed in) then please check out: 
> http://www.qsl.net/w2lj/index%20page%209.html
> 
> My antennas are not much more substantial (if any) than yours.  I have a 
> G5RV at 25 feet and a Butternut HF9V vertical which is ground mounted in 
> the backyard.  To me it seems that if you don't spend too much time 
> concentrating on what you think are deficiencies; but go out with the 
> aim to just have fun, then you will be amazed at what you can accomplish!
> 
> 73 de Larry W2LJ
> K1# 1647, K2# 4090
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion

2006-01-11 Thread Vic K2VCO

Stephanie Maks wrote:


Isn't ES the same as 'h'?  Or am I completely lost?


ES isn't a prosign, like AR, SK, BT, etc.  It's a two letter 
abbreviation for 'and'.  So there's a letter space between the E and he S.

--
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
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RE: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Stephanie, VA3UXB wrote:

I don't think I ever got the hang of the prosigns...  I got the AR.   
To me, BT is a dash (-) but I don't know if that's correct or not.  I  
sometimes get the ',' and '?' confused.  The / character I know well,  
because I always hear it on our local repeater ident, and it it's in  
my beacon's ident (va3grr/b).

But how can you tell an ES from the letter H?  The other ones,  
the AR, BT, the / character, all have 'unique' sounds when you hear  
them, right?  Isn't ES the same as 'h'?  Or am I completely lost?



Excellent point, Stephanie! 

All prosigns are sent as a single character and indicated, for the sake of
simplicity, as letters that, if sent without the normal space, will produce
the prosign. All prosigns are chosen so they won't have the problems you
mention. This is a list of the prosigns I'm familiar with: 

AR - End of message
AS - Stand by
BK - Invite receiving station to transmit
BT - Pause; Break For Text
KA - Beginning of message
KN - end of transmission
CL - Going off the air (clear)
CQ - Calling any amateur radio station
K -- Go, invite any station to transmit
KN - Go only, invite a specific station to transmit
R -- All received OK
SK - End of contact (sent before call)
VE - Understood (VE)
AV - Warning
SOS  Distress

Although it can't be shown here in ASCII, a prosign is identified by a line
or bar above the letters. You'll hear most of these on the Ham bands
although some, like VE or AV and especially SOS will be very rarely heard.

In addition to prosigns we have actual Morse characters for the arcane
characters on our keyboards. These are NOT "prosigns" but simply
combinations of dots and dashes like any letter of the English alphabet or
number. (My apologies for getting careless with terminology and calling the
ampersand a "prosign". That's not right. Hang on. I'll get back to that). I
say English because, of course, there are many other languages that have
corresponding Morse codes such as the 70-odd characters used for Japanese or
the various odd characters used to represent diacritical marks and special
letter combinations in other European languages including Hebrew. I won't
even get into Arabic and Cyrillic. In many countries, Hams have to learn and
be proficient in two or three "Morse Codes" to get a license!

Here in the USA, commercial operators recognized a group of characters for
the various symbols found on a common keyboard. These were codified by the
ITU for use in commercial communications by Morse. We Hams use some of them
almost daily, such as the period, question mark, comma and solidus (slash).
A few more are:

+ (plus sign) di-dah-di-dit-dah

= (equal sign) dah-di-di-dit-dah (We Hams use that for a dash a lot but as
dash is really)

- (dash) dah-di-di-di-di-dah

" (quotation mark) di-dah-di-di-dah-dit

' (single quote) di-dah-dah-dah-dah-dit

_ (underscore) di-di-dah-dah-di-dah

$ (dollar sign) di-di-di-dah-di-di-dah

There are more. There's probably one for the Euro by now . 

Now THOSE you won't fine in common use on the Ham bands, at least not in any
QSO I've heard! That is except for our "pause" when we often use the = sign.

As Kevin Rock, KD5ONS, mentioned that some characters we use commonly came
from the old American Morse that used variations on spacing and element
lengths that don't occur in Continental or International Morse code. Dit,
di-di-dit is one of those. Sent as E S it is the ampersand. Another very
common one that is fading from use because of the popularity of keyers is
the American Morse zero - the long dash. 

I'm sure others with far more background in the American Morse, Continental
Morse, and various international codes will have more to say. 

Ron AC7AC

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RE: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?

2006-01-11 Thread Stephen W. Kercel

Kevin:

I think vertical dipoles are wonderful. I have used them on a heavily 
wooded lot with great success on both 20 and 30 meters. The higher 
you can get them off the ground the better.


It is very desirable to be sure the feedline comes off reasonably 
perpendicular to the antenna for a quarter wavelength or so.


Another effective trick (especially for 80 or 40) is an inverted L 
fed with coax at the corner. Its almost as good as a vertical dipole. 
Again, it is very desirable to be sure the feedline comes off 
reasonably perpendicular to both legs of the antenna for a quarter 
wavelength or so.


However, don't be too enchanted by the low angle pattern, it is also 
a bit lossy. If you overlay your EZNEC vertical dipole elevation 
pattern with the EZNEC broadside elevation pattern of a straight 
dipole at say 5/8 wavelength elevation, you'll see that although the 
vertical concentrates its energy at low angles, the actual dBi values 
are not that much better than the horizontal.


W4RNL has shown that putting a very elaborate ground screen under 
your vertical dipole gets you virtually no advantage. The losses are 
actually from ground losses a few thousand feet from the antenna. For 
that reason, if you're right on a seashore, you'll get spectacular 
results in the seaward direction. (This is the Desert Island effect.) 
I'm located  near the coast of Maine, about 4 miles inland; the 
Desert Island Effect does not help me much.


I have both a 20 m vertical dipole (center about 20 feet off the 
ground) and a 20 m horizontal dipole about 45 feet up. Which one does 
better depends on propagation conditions. I have worked lots of South 
Pacific QRP with the vertical.


73

Steve
AA4AK


At 11:20 PM 1/11/2006, Kevin Shaw wrote:

I've been playing around with EZNEC trying to come up with a DX antenna that
will work at my QTH. The vertical dipole seems to have a fantastic pattern
for DX with low takeoff angles. I may be able to hang a vertical wire dipole
in one of my trees and have it nearly invisible. Anyone have experience with
vertical dipoles that they could share?

Thanks,

Kevin
N8IQ


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Morgan
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 8:39 PM
To: Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?

K9QRG ON 5/12?
Just checking  :>)

Tony W7GO
- Original Message -
From: "Larry Makoski W2LJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Darwin, Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?


> Darwin, Keith wrote:
>
>>K1 or K2.  Hmmm, the debate continues.  But wait, we're approaching a
>>sunspot min.  My antennas are pretty limited.  I have a 28 foot vertical
>>(fed with a tuner near the base) for 40 thru 15 and a dipole at 25 feet
>>but that is about it.  No towers, no high wires, no yagis.
>>
>>How limiting will 5 or 10 watts (even with that Elecraft Mojo) be under
>>current conditions?  Are we entering into conditions where QRP with
>>simple antennas will become rather frustrating?  Is it K2/100 time?
>>
>>- Keith KD1E -
>>___
>>
>>
> Keith,
>
> Fear not fellow Elecrafter!  We QRPers laugh at the sunspot minimum!
> Sunspots .. who needs 'em?
>
> I know, actually we all do. But to be serious   as bad as band
> conditions were in 2005, I managed to make at least one QRP CW QSO
> everyday in 2005.  If you want to check out some of who I worked (and
> there was a goodly bit of DX mixed in) then please check out:
> http://www.qsl.net/w2lj/index%20page%209.html
>
> My antennas are not much more substantial (if any) than yours.  I have a
> G5RV at 25 feet and a Butternut HF9V vertical which is ground mounted in
> the backyard.  To me it seems that if you don't spend too much time
> concentrating on what you think are deficiencies; but go out with the
> aim to just have fun, then you will be amazed at what you can accomplish!
>
> 73 de Larry W2LJ
> K1# 1647, K2# 4090
>
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Re: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?

2006-01-11 Thread Larry Phipps


A related antenna with a couple dB gain is a "half-square". It's like 
half of a bobtail curtain, or two inverted L's connected at the ends of 
the horizontal parts (1/2 wave on top, 1/4 wave on the two vertical 
parts). It has a figure 8 broadside pattern, and is easily fed at one of 
the upper corners with coax.


Larry N8LP



Stephen W. Kercel wrote:


Kevin:

I think vertical dipoles are wonderful. I have used them on a heavily 
wooded lot with great success on both 20 and 30 meters. The higher you 
can get them off the ground the better.


It is very desirable to be sure the feedline comes off reasonably 
perpendicular to the antenna for a quarter wavelength or so.


Another effective trick (especially for 80 or 40) is an inverted L fed 
with coax at the corner. Its almost as good as a vertical dipole. 
Again, it is very desirable to be sure the feedline comes off 
reasonably perpendicular to both legs of the antenna for a quarter 
wavelength or so.


However, don't be too enchanted by the low angle pattern, it is also a 
bit lossy. If you overlay your EZNEC vertical dipole elevation pattern 
with the EZNEC broadside elevation pattern of a straight dipole at say 
5/8 wavelength elevation, you'll see that although the vertical 
concentrates its energy at low angles, the actual dBi values are not 
that much better than the horizontal.


W4RNL has shown that putting a very elaborate ground screen under your 
vertical dipole gets you virtually no advantage. The losses are 
actually from ground losses a few thousand feet from the antenna. For 
that reason, if you're right on a seashore, you'll get spectacular 
results in the seaward direction. (This is the Desert Island effect.) 
I'm located  near the coast of Maine, about 4 miles inland; the Desert 
Island Effect does not help me much.


I have both a 20 m vertical dipole (center about 20 feet off the 
ground) and a 20 m horizontal dipole about 45 feet up. Which one does 
better depends on propagation conditions. I have worked lots of South 
Pacific QRP with the vertical.


73

Steve
AA4AK


At 11:20 PM 1/11/2006, Kevin Shaw wrote:

I've been playing around with EZNEC trying to come up with a DX 
antenna that
will work at my QTH. The vertical dipole seems to have a fantastic 
pattern
for DX with low takeoff angles. I may be able to hang a vertical wire 
dipole
in one of my trees and have it nearly invisible. Anyone have 
experience with

vertical dipoles that they could share?

Thanks,

Kevin
N8IQ


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Morgan
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 8:39 PM
To: Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?

K9QRG ON 5/12?
Just checking  :>)

Tony W7GO
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From: "Larry Makoski W2LJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Darwin, Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?


> Darwin, Keith wrote:
>
>>K1 or K2.  Hmmm, the debate continues.  But wait, we're approaching a
>>sunspot min.  My antennas are pretty limited.  I have a 28 foot 
vertical
>>(fed with a tuner near the base) for 40 thru 15 and a dipole at 25 
feet

>>but that is about it.  No towers, no high wires, no yagis.
>>
>>How limiting will 5 or 10 watts (even with that Elecraft Mojo) be 
under

>>current conditions?  Are we entering into conditions where QRP with
>>simple antennas will become rather frustrating?  Is it K2/100 time?
>>
>>- Keith KD1E -
>>___
>>
>>
> Keith,
>
> Fear not fellow Elecrafter!  We QRPers laugh at the sunspot minimum!
> Sunspots .. who needs 'em?
>
> I know, actually we all do. But to be serious   as bad as band
> conditions were in 2005, I managed to make at least one QRP CW QSO
> everyday in 2005.  If you want to check out some of who I worked (and
> there was a goodly bit of DX mixed in) then please check out:
> http://www.qsl.net/w2lj/index%20page%209.html
>
> My antennas are not much more substantial (if any) than yours.  I 
have a
> G5RV at 25 feet and a Butternut HF9V vertical which is ground 
mounted in

> the backyard.  To me it seems that if you don't spend too much time
> concentrating on what you think are deficiencies; but go out with the
> aim to just have fun, then you will be amazed at what you can 
accomplish!

>
> 73 de Larry W2LJ
> K1# 1647, K2# 4090
>
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Re: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?

2006-01-11 Thread Stephen W. Kercel

Larry:

I've never tried that. Maybe I should.

73,

SteveAt 12:47 AM 1/12/2006, Larry Phipps wrote:

A related antenna with a couple dB gain is a "half-square". It's 
like half of a bobtail curtain, or two inverted L's connected at the 
ends of the horizontal parts (1/2 wave on top, 1/4 wave on the two 
vertical parts). It has a figure 8 broadside pattern, and is easily 
fed at one of the upper corners with coax.


Larry N8LP



Stephen W. Kercel wrote:


Kevin:

I think vertical dipoles are wonderful. I have used them on a 
heavily wooded lot with great success on both 20 and 30 meters. The 
higher you can get them off the ground the better.


It is very desirable to be sure the feedline comes off reasonably 
perpendicular to the antenna for a quarter wavelength or so.


Another effective trick (especially for 80 or 40) is an inverted L 
fed with coax at the corner. Its almost as good as a vertical 
dipole. Again, it is very desirable to be sure the feedline comes 
off reasonably perpendicular to both legs of the antenna for a 
quarter wavelength or so.


However, don't be too enchanted by the low angle pattern, it is 
also a bit lossy. If you overlay your EZNEC vertical dipole 
elevation pattern with the EZNEC broadside elevation pattern of a 
straight dipole at say 5/8 wavelength elevation, you'll see that 
although the vertical concentrates its energy at low angles, the 
actual dBi values are not that much better than the horizontal.


W4RNL has shown that putting a very elaborate ground screen under 
your vertical dipole gets you virtually no advantage. The losses 
are actually from ground losses a few thousand feet from the 
antenna. For that reason, if you're right on a seashore, you'll get 
spectacular results in the seaward direction. (This is the Desert 
Island effect.) I'm located  near the coast of Maine, about 4 miles 
inland; the Desert Island Effect does not help me much.


I have both a 20 m vertical dipole (center about 20 feet off the 
ground) and a 20 m horizontal dipole about 45 feet up. Which one 
does better depends on propagation conditions. I have worked lots 
of South Pacific QRP with the vertical.


73

Steve
AA4AK


At 11:20 PM 1/11/2006, Kevin Shaw wrote:


I've been playing around with EZNEC trying to come up with a DX antenna that
will work at my QTH. The vertical dipole seems to have a fantastic pattern
for DX with low takeoff angles. I may be able to hang a vertical wire dipole
in one of my trees and have it nearly invisible. Anyone have experience with
vertical dipoles that they could share?

Thanks,

Kevin
N8IQ


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Morgan
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 8:39 PM
To: Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?

K9QRG ON 5/12?
Just checking  :>)

Tony W7GO
- Original Message -
From: "Larry Makoski W2LJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Darwin, Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?


> Darwin, Keith wrote:
>
>>K1 or K2.  Hmmm, the debate continues.  But wait, we're approaching a
>>sunspot min.  My antennas are pretty limited.  I have a 28 foot vertical
>>(fed with a tuner near the base) for 40 thru 15 and a dipole at 25 feet
>>but that is about it.  No towers, no high wires, no yagis.
>>
>>How limiting will 5 or 10 watts (even with that Elecraft Mojo) be under
>>current conditions?  Are we entering into conditions where QRP with
>>simple antennas will become rather frustrating?  Is it K2/100 time?
>>
>>- Keith KD1E -
>>___
>>
>>
> Keith,
>
> Fear not fellow Elecrafter!  We QRPers laugh at the sunspot minimum!
> Sunspots .. who needs 'em?
>
> I know, actually we all do. But to be serious   as bad as band
> conditions were in 2005, I managed to make at least one QRP CW QSO
> everyday in 2005.  If you want to check out some of who I worked (and
> there was a goodly bit of DX mixed in) then please check out:
> http://www.qsl.net/w2lj/index%20page%209.html
>
> My antennas are not much more substantial (if any) than yours.  I have a
> G5RV at 25 feet and a Butternut HF9V vertical which is ground mounted in
> the backyard.  To me it seems that if you don't spend too much time
> concentrating on what you think are deficiencies; but go out with the
> aim to just have fun, then you will be amazed at what you can accomplish!
>
> 73 de Larry W2LJ
> K1# 1647, K2# 4090
>
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RE: [Elecraft] QRP viability during solar cycle min?

2006-01-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Kevin N8IQ wrote:

I've been playing around with EZNEC trying to come up with a DX antenna that
will work at my QTH. The vertical dipole seems to have a fantastic pattern
for DX with low takeoff angles. I may be able to hang a vertical wire dipole
in one of my trees and have it nearly invisible. Anyone have experience with
vertical dipoles that they could share?

--

Are you modeling over a "real earth" in EZNEC, Kevin? 

The limitation verticals face is that vertically-polarized waves induce
strong ground currents. In most grounds that means substantial loss of lower
angles of radiation.  

For that reason, most verticals show their maximum lobe at somewhere between
20 and 30 degrees above the horizon. Everything lower is absorbed by the
earth. Until the radiator gets so long the patter breaks up (up to about 5.8
wavelength) there is a slight improvement in gain as the radiator is made
longer.  Using a dipole does eliminate the requirement for a ground for a
Marconi type radiator, but it does nothing to reduce the far-field ground
losses from what I read. 

The "gain" of such a vertical will be about 0 dBi or the same as an
"isotropic" radiator. 

By comparison, a horizontal antenna 7 MHz, will over 6.5 dBi gain at 20
degrees as long as the horizontal wire is about 1/4 wavelength (33 feet at
40 meters) above the ground. That is equal to a 4:1 power increase just by
making the dipole horizontal! Of course, the horizontal requires a lot more
"horizontal" space! That gain comes from just the reverse of the situation
that costs a vertical signal. The waves from the horizontal are reflected
from the ground to form a sort of "two-element" beam. 

Ron AC7AC 

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RE: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
David G4DMP wrote:

I don't know that one, Ron; we don't have Euros in the UK ;-) But don't
forget the new one for @ for use in e-mail addresses
  @di-dah-dah-di-dah-dit

-

Yeah, that's what started the thread so I left it out. It's  also the
easiest for me to remember (look at my call sign!)

As for British currency, there must be one for the "pound sign", Hi!

Ron AC7AC

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