Re: [Elecraft] Single or dual paddle??
The problem is NOT the dual paddle. It's the keyer! There is another mode besides iambic A/B that works just fine with a dual paddle. A while back there was a lament in the brasspounders newsgroup about the plethera of great quality dual paddles but no one liked the dit dah dit dah dit dah iambic squeeze response. Most of use had come from straight keys, bugs, cooties and we wanted a dit when we pushed the dit paddle and a dah when we pushed the dah paddle no matter what - squeeze or single push. Someone mentioned an older ultramatic (various spellings) mode where the last paddle pushed wins. So if you are pushing the dits paddle and you squeeze so the dah paddle come into play, it the keyer will switch to dahs. Releasing the dah paddle brings back the dits when the dit paddle is still pushed. We all rejoiced. That's the kind of predictability we wanted. At this time the Jackson harbor PK4 chip supports that mode so I think all their keyer kits do. Also, that chip is used in the new Palm Cube keyer. Several older Ten Tec keyers use that mode. It's too bad it is not offered in Elecrafts built in keyers. If you find a keyer that supports Ultamatic (various spellings) I think you will find your dual paddle much more fun to use - unless you have always been on iambic and have kung fu like reflexes. 73, Paul ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] KX-1 ATU question
Jean-Francios, That is a normal occurrance, and is not unique to the KX1 and its tuner. The wattmeter reads forward power (only) as measured on the transmission line (or more specifically at the transmitter/ATU junction, and it should be calibrated for 50 ohms. The same thing happens with many amateur wattmeters although there are a few (such as the Tandem Match) that calculate the net power output. The actual power being developed is the forward power minus the reflected power, when the SWR increases, the forward power required to maintain the same actual output power must also increase. In my KX1 work when calibrating the wattmeter in the tuner, I use both a 100 ohm dummy load and a 25 ohm dummy load to determine the 2:1 SWR points, and I find that the net KX1 power does not ddecrease significantly with the 100 ohm load, but it does drop with the 25 ohm load. From that experience, I would say that your increase in SWR is due to an increase in the load impedance rather than a reduction. 73, Don W3FPR > -Original Message- > > I found something strange with my KX1 everything works fine, I did a > many QSO... but I found something that when I use the ATU. > > When I start tuning with the KX1, everything is OK, it tunes normally > then show me POWER and after a push of a button show me SWR. > > Example: I get 2.3W on 40M with a SWR of 1.1:1, but higher in the band, > I have 4.3W power and 1.9:1 SWR. When I get an higher SWR, power > rise. SWR drop, power drop. > > That is what my ATU give me Something sounds to be installed reverse > !?!?!?!? > > Any explanation ? > > J-F VA2VYZ > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Single or dual paddle??
On Jul 11, 2006, at 8:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking at Begali paddles. I'm used to dual paddles (Bencher, etc), but never use the iambic feature, and don't intend to in the future.I have never used a single paddle, and wonder if it would be very different from a dual?? Is the single more conducive to making sending errors? (I make too many with a dual) One guy on eham said it was hard to get the Simplex tuned in just right. He said it was because he uses very close contact spacing. Anyone out there who has used a Simplex single and care to comment? I have been using a Bengali Simplex (dual paddles) for about 3 years (I never got comfortable with iambic operation either). I like the feel much better than my Bencher. Although the construction is quite different, the feel is quite similar to a Brown Brothers paddle. I use fairly close spacing. The single paddle Simplex wasn't available when I bought mine, but that looks like a good paddle also. 73 - Bob, N7XY ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] OT Help!
This is really OT but I do have a K2/100 and a KX1, and I'm getting desperate. Does anyone here know how to get to a real person or real email address at Symantec? I renewed my NAV license on my laptop (against the voice in my head telling me "No"), and now I'm told I need to buy it again. I can fix it with Mastercard in the end, I hope, but I'd really like solve it with the vendor if I can, and they'll let me. They're not making it easy. Off-line replies PLEASE, this is not Elecraft stuff. Sorry for the OT, Fred K6DGW Auburn CA CM98lw ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] ARRL Southwestern Div. convention in September
The SW convention will be in San Diego this year, Sept. 22-24. For information, call 619-692-3800 or see www.sandarc-conv2006.org. San Diego is also my home town, so I can answer questions about what to do while you're there, where the best beaches and hiking are, where to find good antenna trees, etc. :) I'll be doing a technical talk on Saturday. I may also have some new mini-module kits with me. Look forward to meeting some of you there! 73, Wayne N6KR --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] TAC 2006 Sprint Final Call for Logs
Hello, Just wanted to remind everyone that the final date for all TAC 2006 Sprint logs are due by 12 July 2006 @ 23:59 UTC. You can send your log via e-mail to n3epa @ verizon . net , please take out the spaces. 72 Ron de N3EPA EPA QRP Club El Presidente' [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.n3epa.org ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] KX-1 ATU question
Hi, I found something strange with my KX1 everything works fine, I did a many QSO... but I found something that when I use the ATU. When I start tuning with the KX1, everything is OK, it tunes normally then show me POWER and after a push of a button show me SWR. Example: I get 2.3W on 40M with a SWR of 1.1:1, but higher in the band, I have 4.3W power and 1.9:1 SWR. When I get an higher SWR, power rise. SWR drop, power drop. That is what my ATU give me Something sounds to be installed reverse !?!?!?!? Any explanation ? J-F VA2VYZ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Finally after a few months down...
Hi, I finally rebuilt my website after 3 months down... now it is UP !!! Happy visiting !!! http://web.mac.com/jfmenard/ J-F Ménard / VA2VYZ P.S. I'm keeping my KX-1 :-)) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Slow Code Watering Holes? (OT)
In a message dated 7/10/06 10:45:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > On Jun 26, 2006, at 7:57 PM, Mike Morrow wrote: > > > The magic of the Novice bands seemed to start failing when higher > > power and VFO operation were sanctioned and when Novice licenses > > became renewable. > > Nope. I was licensed as a Novice from November 1975-1977, and during > that time there was lots of low-speed CW - VFO controlled, and during > the summer of 1976, power levels went to 200 watts PEP. > > I think end of Novice activity came when the no-code Technician was > adopted. In my experience it was a gradual thing. The rise of repeaters on VHF/UHF made the Tech more attractive, because it gave 2 meter and 440 privileges. The Novice didn't. Many hams I knew in the late '70s and early '80s wither started with Tech or rapidly upgraded to it. This was even more common after the General written was split in two in 1987 > > Hopefully, the FCC will get around to passing the new regulations and > Novices and Tech's with CW will be able to use the majority of the CW > bands on 80, 40 and 15m, just like it was in the old-old days before > incentive licensing. > ?? Techs did not have *any* HF privileges until the 1970s. Novices only had small slices of 80, 40 and 15 meters before 1968. In fact, the original 1951 Novice did not have any 40 or 15 meter privileges at all! 40 and 15 were added in the 1950s. In 1967, when I was a Novice, the Novice HF privileges were 3700-3750, 7150-7200, and 21100-21250. 75 watts input maximum, crystal control only. 73 de Jim, N2EY ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Single or dual paddle??
There is nothing hard about adjusting close contact spacing on the Simplex Mono. I have one and it is a joy to use. I also use dual lever paddles but not for squeeze, so anyone who uses a dual paddle and doesn't squeeze will have no trouble using a single lever paddle. Less errors, too, probably. de Joe, aa4nn --- I'm looking at Begali paddles. I'm used to dual paddles (Bencher, etc), but never use the iambic feature, and don't intend to in the future.I have never used a single paddle, and wonder if it would be very different from a dual?? Is the single more conducive to making sending errors? (I make too many with a dual) One guy on eham said it was hard to get the Simplex tuned in just right. He said it was because he uses very close contact spacing. Anyone out there who has used a Simplex single and care to comment? Tnx, George, n4ym ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] WTB: top cover for K2
Would the cover for an EC-2 suffice? I have one you can have gratis. Joe N9JR - Original Message From: Andrew Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:00:31 AM Subject: [Elecraft] WTB: top cover for K2 I am looking for an original top cover for the K2. Just the bare cover, no need for the tuner, etc. Condition is not important; price is. Am I correct in recalling that Elecraft does not sell this cover separately? Thanks, --Andrew ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Antennas for use with Elecraft T1 ATU
I'm a T1 owner and I use the 44 and 88 foot dipoles. I can say with experiance that everything Ken says is true. You just can't do better. 73 Karl Kenneth A. Christiansen wrote: Hi from Fargo, ND and many camp sites. This is the antenna I have used for the last 5 years in my camper with I feel excellent results. It is a 44 foot doublet (22 feet) on each side of center) with a feed line of 22 feet of 450 ohm window line. The center is supported by a 23 foot telescoping painter's handle with a hook at the top made out of an old paint roller. The ends are supported by 10 foot lengths of 3/4th inch PVC pipes to make an inverted vee. This loads well with either my KAT2 or KAT100. I added a W2DU 1 to 1 balun and I find the antenna so stable the settings the tuner picked from the last camp site usually work at the next camp site with no changes. I have a 1 foot jumper of RG8 between the tuner and the balun. This works as is on all bands except 30 and 80 meters. On 30 meters 22 feet of feed line is a bad length and transforms the low impedance of what is a 30 meter dipole to a high impedance which gives the tuner trouble. I cut a jumper of 22 feet of 300 ohm twin lead and wound it into a coil with a 7 inch diameter. All my twin lead feed lines use alligator clips so to use 30 meters I just clip the additional 22 feet loop of feed line in series with the 450 ohm window line. I have 22 foot extensions I can add to each side of the doublet to make it 88 feet for use on our 75 meter SSB net. These extensions have to be tied to a tree or other support but the 44 ft doublet is self supporting by the 23 foot painters handle on the hitch of my camper and the 10 foot PVC pipes which are supported by the rear bumper of the camper and the front bumper of my tow vehicle. If I want to work 160 meters or don't have a location where I can add the 22 foot extensions for 75 meters I have a loading coil and can tie the two sides of the 22 foot feed line together and use the loading coil to make a top loaded vertical which uses the frame of my camper as a counterpoise and that works about as well as a good mobile station. I used to use a home made full wave quarter wave vertical on 20 meters which used the frame of the camper as a counterpoise. I thought it worked well but in 2001 the 44 ft doublet was brought up here on this reflector. I built it and used both antennas for just two camping trips. The doublet was so much better than the vertical that I quit taking the vertical along. I have run QRP battery 1B for the last 5 field days and the weak point is me as an operator and not my station or antenna. Last week end I was set up at Fort Ransom State Park, ND. I worked W1PID on 20 running 3 watts on a K1 and 88 foot doublet (I was running the 100 watts). I QSYed to 30 meters and ran 5 watts on my end and had a 25 minute QSO with K4AKC who was running a K1 and 4 Watts to a G5RV. When we got done CU2BV from the Azores called me and we had a 15 minute QSO down at 13 wpm and I was still running 5 watts. I have been camping and portable for about 39 years and used many different rigs and antennas but nothing I ever had before has worked as well with as little effort on my part as the K2/100 and 44 ft doublet. I hope more of you try this antenna and have as good luck with it as I have had. 73 from North Dakota where it is now 94 degrees F headed to -30 degrees F in just 6 months. Ken W0CZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Single or dual paddle??
I'm looking at Begali paddles. I'm used to dual paddles (Bencher, etc), but never use the iambic feature, and don't intend to in the future.I have never used a single paddle, and wonder if it would be very different from a dual?? Is the single more conducive to making sending errors? (I make too many with a dual) One guy on eham said it was hard to get the Simplex tuned in just right. He said it was because he uses very close contact spacing. Anyone out there who has used a Simplex single and care to comment? Tnx, George, n4ym ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Antennas for use with Elecraft T1 ATU
Hi from Fargo, ND and many camp sites. This is the antenna I have used for the last 5 years in my camper with I feel excellent results. It is a 44 foot doublet (22 feet) on each side of center) with a feed line of 22 feet of 450 ohm window line. The center is supported by a 23 foot telescoping painter's handle with a hook at the top made out of an old paint roller. The ends are supported by 10 foot lengths of 3/4th inch PVC pipes to make an inverted vee. This loads well with either my KAT2 or KAT100. I added a W2DU 1 to 1 balun and I find the antenna so stable the settings the tuner picked from the last camp site usually work at the next camp site with no changes. I have a 1 foot jumper of RG8 between the tuner and the balun. This works as is on all bands except 30 and 80 meters. On 30 meters 22 feet of feed line is a bad length and transforms the low impedance of what is a 30 meter dipole to a high impedance which gives the tuner trouble. I cut a jumper of 22 feet of 300 ohm twin lead and wound it into a coil with a 7 inch diameter. All my twin lead feed lines use alligator clips so to use 30 meters I just clip the additional 22 feet loop of feed line in series with the 450 ohm window line. I have 22 foot extensions I can add to each side of the doublet to make it 88 feet for use on our 75 meter SSB net. These extensions have to be tied to a tree or other support but the 44 ft doublet is self supporting by the 23 foot painters handle on the hitch of my camper and the 10 foot PVC pipes which are supported by the rear bumper of the camper and the front bumper of my tow vehicle. If I want to work 160 meters or don't have a location where I can add the 22 foot extensions for 75 meters I have a loading coil and can tie the two sides of the 22 foot feed line together and use the loading coil to make a top loaded vertical which uses the frame of my camper as a counterpoise and that works about as well as a good mobile station. I used to use a home made full wave quarter wave vertical on 20 meters which used the frame of the camper as a counterpoise. I thought it worked well but in 2001 the 44 ft doublet was brought up here on this reflector. I built it and used both antennas for just two camping trips. The doublet was so much better than the vertical that I quit taking the vertical along. I have run QRP battery 1B for the last 5 field days and the weak point is me as an operator and not my station or antenna. Last week end I was set up at Fort Ransom State Park, ND. I worked W1PID on 20 running 3 watts on a K1 and 88 foot doublet (I was running the 100 watts). I QSYed to 30 meters and ran 5 watts on my end and had a 25 minute QSO with K4AKC who was running a K1 and 4 Watts to a G5RV. When we got done CU2BV from the Azores called me and we had a 15 minute QSO down at 13 wpm and I was still running 5 watts. I have been camping and portable for about 39 years and used many different rigs and antennas but nothing I ever had before has worked as well with as little effort on my part as the K2/100 and 44 ft doublet. I hope more of you try this antenna and have as good luck with it as I have had. 73 from North Dakota where it is now 94 degrees F headed to -30 degrees F in just 6 months. Ken W0CZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KX1 vs. FT-817
Alexandra Carter wrote: Yes, two completely different animals. I recently bought an Icom IC-7000, my friend Dale got one and if it's good enough for him it's darned good. I keep a schedule with WF5A Karl Hess, and he has to have the latest in radio and he also bought a Icom 7000 and he sounds real good. We both have the FT-857D and the FT-817 and know that we cut our teeth on the 817 with menue's and then got more menu's and then finally on the 7000 even more menu's :-) My impressions so far are, Darned Good! But, which would I rather have out on the park here on our Thursday lunchtime get-togethers? Probably the K1 I'm building. Which is easiest to pull out of a backpack, throw a wire up into a tree, and work some CW from the bluffs overlooking Maverick's? Sure I can take the 7000 places but it needs many lbs of batts. The K1 was designed to take to the field with a modest battery. The original point was, Why was I able to hear so much more on my 817 than on my KX1? And I think the conclusion was that I'd not built my KX1 right somehow, and some testing with a decent sig-gen and seeing if it would meet factory specs would have shown me that. 73 de Alex NS6Y. Hi Alex, I have wanted a KX1 for years. Often you have been looking at that radio for a long time, you can't see the tree for the forest. If you want I will be glad to look at your KX1 and find the receiver problem. I need the radio and the manual if you would like to try this. I have put together a AT Sprint 3 which is 99% SM devices. I have a BIG magnifying light on an arm and all the tools you can need. 73 Karl On Jul 11, 2006, at 8:19 AM, Karl Larsen wrote: When you try to compare two radios you get into a can of worms. I own an FT-817 of about 5 years ago and it's a fine radio. It covers 6 meters and the two VHF-UHF bands that are not on a KX1. But the KX1 uses less input power on receive and thus will last a lot longer on the internal battery pack. But the KX1 has no SSB and the FT-817 does. You go around like this and miss the real good points of both radios :-) The KX1 is made to be carried in a pack to hard to walk to places. It has a built in paddle and it works fine. I have taken my FT-817 on similar trips and it does well too, but it needs more battery. So both radios do the same thing but the FT-817 does a few more tricks. 73 Karl K5DI Alexandra Carter wrote: I am very happy to announce that I am apparently all wet! From the sound of it, the KX1 I built a couple of years ago had some undocumented "features" built in like perhaps the partial deafness problem. Some serious testing on my part would have sniffed this out and caused me to hunt down and solve the problem. I am working on a K1 now, and when it's done I'll make sure it's recieving the way it ought to. 73 de Alex NS6Y On Jul 10, 2006, at 1:56 PM, ron wrote: I always thought them KX1's were far superior to them 817's! ___ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Capacitor voltage K2 RF Board
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hoblinski > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:41 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] Capacitor voltage K2 RF Board > > Could anybody let me know what the voltages are for C93 10uF > and C126 47uF that are on the control board. Mike Mine has a 10uF 35V Subminiture part for C93 and a 47uF 25v part for C126 All best John > > N6IMF > > _ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today > - it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Cross-post from moon-net .. anyone using a K2 IF for EME work?
Hi John, Interesting post. Would be curious to see what responses there are. I would think that the Rx Sensitivity is fine but not necessarily dependent on the K2 as an IF. Whatever VHF/UHF/Microwave transverter is used with the K2 as an IF determines the sensitivity (ie the transverter, not the K2, determines the sensitivity). Additionally, the system noise figure of the antenna, preamp, feedline and so on back to the first Rx stage (in the transverter) are really what determines the sensitivity, not just the sensitivity of the transverter (or the K2). If the system noise figure is good and there is at least unity gain (most transverters have more than unity gain) then there shouldn't be a problem with the "sensitivity" of the K2 as an IF rig. Additionally the benefit of the K2 as an IF is the excellent selectivity, but maybe that is not so much of an issue except maybe during EME contests, but it sure can't hurt! Mark, NK8Q John D'Ausilio wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[Moon-net] Elecraft K2 IF for EME Is anyone using the Elecraft K2 transceiver on 28 MHz as the "IF" in an EME system? If so I would appreciate your evaluation of the K2 in terms of "receive" capability of weak EME cw signals. Please reply direct to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Blackwidow
Is this the same as the Arizona QRP society (?) Scorpion? I have two of 'em still in the bag, but as you mention, polishing that brass looks like it might take until the sunspot cycle comes around agn. John, is that a picture of your Blackwidow, FB job! Tom WB2QDG K2 1103 -- Original message -- From: John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The Blackwidow paddle is a good addition for a kit built station. The kit > went together well and operation is smooth. The hardest part of the build > was finishing the brass components. A fun project. and the price is great. > Looks good along side of the K2's and K1. > > Pictures of my finished Blackwidow at: > > http://00497f5.netsolhost.com/radio/Blackwid02.jpg > > http://00497f5.netsolhost.com/radio/Blackwid04.jpg > > John > k7up > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Cross-post from moon-net .. anyone using a K2 IF for EME work?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Richards Sent: 2006 July 11, Tuesday 16:23 To: Moon Net Subject:[Moon-net] Elecraft K2 IF for EME Is anyone using the Elecraft K2 transceiver on 28 MHz as the "IF" in an EME system? If so I would appreciate your evaluation of the K2 in terms of "receive" capability of weak EME cw signals. Please reply direct to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Capacitor voltage K2 RF Board
Could anybody let me know what the voltages are for C93 10uF and C126 47uF that are on the control board. Thanks Mike N6IMF _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [QRP-L] Google
Speaking of the Black Widow Paddle, take a look at the treatment Dennis, N5DRB gave to his paddle. (The touch of a former knifemaker.) http://i.pbase.com/o4/78/622578/1/63330635.YPRqO7td.IMG_3471.JPG - Original Message - From: "Paul Gates, KD3JF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 3:49 AM Subject: [QRP-L] Google Let's not forget how good google is. Yesterday I wanted to re-visit the Black Widow Paddle so I googled it and found a lot of inf0. Paul, KD3JF Glen Burnie, MD FM19qd (Map Grid Square) __ QRP-L mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/qrp-l Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release Date: 7/10/2006 __ QRP-L mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/qrp-l Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Elecraft] KX1 vs. FT-817
When you try to compare two radios you get into a can of worms. I own an FT-817 of about 5 years ago and it's a fine radio. It covers 6 meters and the two VHF-UHF bands that are not on a KX1. But the KX1 uses less input power on receive and thus will last a lot longer on the internal battery pack. But the KX1 has no SSB and the FT-817 does. You go around like this and miss the real good points of both radios :-) The KX1 is made to be carried in a pack to hard to walk to places. It has a built in paddle and it works fine. I have taken my FT-817 on similar trips and it does well too, but it needs more battery. So both radios do the same thing but the FT-817 does a few more tricks. 73 Karl K5DI Alexandra Carter wrote: I am very happy to announce that I am apparently all wet! From the sound of it, the KX1 I built a couple of years ago had some undocumented "features" built in like perhaps the partial deafness problem. Some serious testing on my part would have sniffed this out and caused me to hunt down and solve the problem. I am working on a K1 now, and when it's done I'll make sure it's recieving the way it ought to. 73 de Alex NS6Y On Jul 10, 2006, at 1:56 PM, ron wrote: I always thought them KX1's were far superior to them 817's! ___ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Help with K1
Just to clarify: When it says select 10.0 or 10.1 it makes it sound like you'll see both and you pick the one you want. The reality is you'll see EITHER 10.0 or 10.1, depending on how you built the filter board. The previous post was correct that you'll need to swap in the other crystal to get 10.000-10.080. Craig NZ0R K1 #1966 K2/100 #4941 KX1 #1499 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gates, KD3JF Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:05 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Help with K1 I need help with my K1. I did not realize that my 30 meter band was set up for 10.0 instead of 10.1. I checked the manual and it says: To select B1 or B2 and hold display button and select 10.0 or 10.1. That does not seemingly work for me. When I hold display button nothing happens so I do not see the option of selecting 10.1. Any help will be appreciated. I have been using the KX1 on 30 and did not realize I could not tune to 10.119 on the K1. Paul, KD3JF Glen Burnie, MD FM19qd (Map Grid Square) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KX1 vs. FT-817
I am very happy to announce that I am apparently all wet! From the sound of it, the KX1 I built a couple of years ago had some undocumented "features" built in like perhaps the partial deafness problem. Some serious testing on my part would have sniffed this out and caused me to hunt down and solve the problem. I am working on a K1 now, and when it's done I'll make sure it's recieving the way it ought to. 73 de Alex NS6Y On Jul 10, 2006, at 1:56 PM, ron wrote: I always thought them KX1's were far superior to them 817's! ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Help with K1
You will have to do one of two things: Obviously your K1 is setup for 80 khz of VFO range. You will have to set it up for 150 khz. of VFO rangeOR.change the band crystal. If you assembled it yourself, you should have a "spare" crystal for the 30 meter band to do that. It will then tune from 10.1 to about 10.180 instead of 10.0-10.080 mhz. 73, Sandy W5TVW - Original Message - From: "Paul Gates, KD3JF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:04 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Help with K1 | I need help with my K1. I did not realize that my | 30 meter band was set up for 10.0 instead of | 10.1. I checked the manual and it says: | | To select B1 or B2 and hold display button and | select 10.0 or 10.1. | | That does not seemingly work for me. When I hold | display button nothing happens so I do not see | the option of selecting 10.1. | | Any help will be appreciated. I have been using | the KX1 on 30 and did not realize I could not | tune to 10.119 on the K1. | | Paul, KD3JF | Glen Burnie, MD | FM19qd (Map Grid Square) | | | ___ | Elecraft mailing list | Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net | You must be a subscriber to post to the list. | Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): | http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft | | Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm | Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com | | | | -- | No virus found in this incoming message. | Checked by AVG Free Edition. | Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release Date: 7/10/2006 | | ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 with XV144: TX offset without RIT/XIT
Problem was: SSB transmit offset by 540Hz. In reply to Steve's question: No, I did not have the RIT or XIT engaged. Easy enough mistake to make despite the flashing indicator. :( Just to dot the i's and cross the t's, I recalled that I had not set not set BF2-4 in CAL-FIL for SSB when I installed the unit. I re-did the CAL FIL calibration yesterday after diagnosing the problem. I transmitted into a dummy load and listened on a nearby receiver and found that now I seem to be on frequency, at least on the HF bands. I dunno if this makes any sense. Perhaps I was on Fil2 with the factory BFO setting for the filter. In any case, listening on HF I now seem to be spot on. I noticed the problem yesterday while having a 2m qso using the XV144. I will try some on the air tests with the XV144 tonight. Hope to get it all squared away before the CQWW VHF this weekend. Thanks for your note, Raj, N2RD -- Rajiv Dewan, N2RD [EMAIL PROTECTED] FN13fc -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: KX1 vs. FT-817
"We recommend earbuds or other sensitive headphones, but it can also be used with a small speaker as long as you use a stereo plug." Just to note, not all earbuds are equal. I went to buy a pair just for the KX1. So I went to Walmart and found a pair for $1! How could I go wrong? Not looking for HiFi here, just had to work! Figured it was perfectNo need to reply, I know I'm a fool. Audio output on the KX1 seemed poor, I was testing/debugging and couldn't figure it out. After a couple hours of pain of having these things in my ears I switched to a $20 pair of Koss headphones. All was MUCH better. AF gain at 9-oclock, not 4, audio quality was much better too! I've also got a set of ER4Ps and another pair of custom moulded earplug speakers. Need to try those too. But I'll probably find a pair of earbuds somewhere around the house for the field. http://www.headphone.com/products/headphones/clip-on/koss-ksc-75.php http://www.headphone.com/products/headphones/sealed-and-noise-canceling/etymotic-er-4p.php http://www.earinc.com/p2-music-competition.php "The KX1 also comes with a narrow crystal filter -- optional on the FT-817." And it's variable bandwidth! Plus, based on my limited experience (KX1 has only been built for ~1wk), I think the UI of the KX1 is much easier to use than my FT817. -- Steve Knapp ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Help with K1
I need help with my K1. I did not realize that my 30 meter band was set up for 10.0 instead of 10.1. I checked the manual and it says: To select B1 or B2 and hold display button and select 10.0 or 10.1. That does not seemingly work for me. When I hold display button nothing happens so I do not see the option of selecting 10.1. Any help will be appreciated. I have been using the KX1 on 30 and did not realize I could not tune to 10.119 on the K1. Paul, KD3JF Glen Burnie, MD FM19qd (Map Grid Square) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] (no subject)
I need help with my K1. I did not realize that my 30 meter band was set up for 10.0 instead of 10.1. I checked the manual and it says: To select B1 or B2 and hold display button and select 10.0 or 10.1. That does not seemingly work for me. When I hold display button nothing happens so I do not see the option of selecting 10.1. Any help will be appreciated. I have been using the KX1 on 30 and did not realize I could not tune to 10.119 on the K1. Paul, KD3JF Glen Burnie, MD FM19qd (Map Grid Square) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: Detecting the LO [was: plexiglass] (Vic K2VCO) clarification
Hi, I remember reading about the Brits searching for spies who were tuned to certain frequencies that transmitted coded information to the agents who might not have even had transmitters. A quick clarification. The IF stage is 455kc and the LO is an HF oscillator that is offset from the tuned frequency by 455kc so that the difference is fed into the IF stage for amplification. (I decided to use Kc rather than khz as wwii predates the change in terms lol). By searching for the actual LO frequency - the Brits counterintellegence people could identify which radios were listening to the enemy's coded messages and avoid wasting time on those listening to Churchill's speeches. best regards, Charles wb5izd ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] WTB: top cover for K2
I am looking for an original top cover for the K2. Just the bare cover, no need for the tuner, etc. Condition is not important; price is. Am I correct in recalling that Elecraft does not sell this cover separately? Thanks, --Andrew ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Blackwidow
Southwestern Charm, I think they look spiffy! Besides, you ever tried to break a banjo pick? :-) On 7/11/06, Fred (FL) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The "key" looks very substantial - except, I can't understand why they would use such cheap thin banjo picks, and galvanized screws with which to attach them? -- Jeff, KE9V ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Blackwidow
The "key" looks very substantial - except, I can't understand why they would use such cheap thin banjo picks, and galvanized screws with which to attach them? Fred itch'n for another build! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] plexiglass
Alex NS6Y wrote: In my reading about green radios I can't afford (but want anyway) and in various readings I've heard that detecting the 455-kHz LO of a superhet isn't all that hard, and that for instance in countries that require a radio license, they use such techniques to check if people in their houses have radios (or TVs) that they're not on record of having licenses for! And, in a lot of the military radios, the shielding is VERY good so that detection is much harder to do. - In 1940 the SWBC radio for use by passengers, on the ship that was used to evacuate a bunch of us youngsters to Africa, was put into a solid locked metal box. I believe that this was to prevent U-boats detecting any radiation from the receiver, most likely a superhet. The loudspeaker was outside of the box and there must have been an external antenna. Maybe overkill or wishful thinking. 73, Geoff GM4ESD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] #5390 Completed - Novice's Reflections on Building a K2
Hello Don, Thanks for your wishes. After some 'minor tinkering' with my dc lead and CAL CUR, I can now manage to get 12 watts out of the K2 on 28 mhz (at 14V DC, at 12V DC I can get 10 watts out measured on my Bird 43 into a DL2500). Will try to get on around 14025 +/- 5 this weekend as VR2AX/P and try to have some fun. Hope to have a qso one day. 73, Wyn, VR2AX > > Congratulations on your accomplishments and thanks for the description of your efforts. Enjoy your K2 whether /P as originally intended, or for your home station QSOs as well. 73, Don W3FPR ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] RFTB Sprint
Folks, The Flying Pigs Run For The Bacon is Sunday Night! Get ready for some CW QRP sprint fun! To clear up any confusion about the time of the event, the RFTB will ALWAYS be from: 9-11 Eastern time 8-10 Central time 7-9 Mountain time 6-8 Pacific time This is year around, regardless of any daylight savings/standard time changes. For full details, see: http://www.fpqrp.com/fpqrprun.html Hope to hear you Sunday Night! ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re:[Elecraft] K2 KSB2 TX off frequency
Raj: I trust you didn't have the RIT on by mistake ? I find I often leave the RIT on and forget about it with the K2. The flashing indicator just doesn't seem to be obvious enough to me to remind me to turn it off. 73, Steve VE3SMA __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Blackwidow
Where can info be found about the Black Widow paddle? Don / WA9TGT On 7/10/06, Darrell Bellerive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Keep the info on the Blackwidow coming. Until I can afford an Elecraft Hex Key, this will probably be my paddle. I don't do well with brass, as my perspiration tends to leave marks on it. Just wonder if you Blackwidow paddle owners treated the brass with Everbrite and how well that worked. Darrell On July 10, 2006 03:54 pm, Nick Waterman wrote: > John wrote: > > The Blackwidow paddle is a good addition for a kit built station. The > > kit went together well and operation is smooth. > > Niiice, and like your pics. > > My Black Widow kit turned up on Saturday. > > > The hardest part of the build was finishing the brass components. > > Yah, I started following Jerry's instructions, with the sandpaper on > a flat surface, spent hours and hours sanding it and barely making a > dent in the very visible machining marks. Then I attacked it with the > buzzy electric sander, and within a minute or two had the whole lot > clean and flat. It now has a matt finish, with millions of tiny spirals > and swirls on it. I can't decide whether to leave it as it is, or go > onto the much finer polishing next. Looks like you went for the mirror > effect - was it worth the effort? -- Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- WA9TGT / Don Garrett / Muncie, IN ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[QRP-L] Google
Let's not forget how good google is. Yesterday I wanted to re-visit the Black Widow Paddle so I googled it and found a lot of inf0. Paul, KD3JF Glen Burnie, MD FM19qd (Map Grid Square) __ QRP-L mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/qrp-l Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Elecraft] QRP Power Level?
Wow...I sure wasn't trying to imply that! 8-) My post said "where PARTICIPANTS define QRP as 5W CW and 10W SSB." Specifically there was a website of a group who were planning SS activity that stated that they were going to be running 5W on CW and 10W PEP on SSB during SS.You didn't get a chance to see that since I sent it to the guys off-list. There are those who look at 5W DC and immediately translate it to 10W PEP for SSB even if the "official" rules state 5W maximum power. There seem to be many "standards" set by various organizations. The only one that matters is the sponsor of the contest. One safe rule of thumb... If you never exceed 5W regardless of mode ALL contest sponsors will acknowledge you as a QRP entry in their contests. 73 de Tom K2TA - Original Message - From: "Jack Brindle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tom Althoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRP Power Level? Tom's email can be read to imply that ARRL Sweepstakes defines QRP on SSB as other than five watts. The rule specifically states: "4.2.1. "Q" for Single Op QRP (5 Watts output or less);" Thus for SSB or CW, the max is 5 watts. He is right about contest rules - be sure to thoroughly read a contest's rules before operating in the contest. There are differences in the rules for each contest that make it interesting. More than a few contesters have been bitten by assuming a rule that doesn't exist in the contest at hand... On Jul 7, 2006, at 10:03 AM, Tom Althoff wrote: I've sent Bob and Kent a few examples of QRP contests (and ARRL Sweepstakes) where participants define QRP as 5W CW and 10W SSB. Since this in an Elecraft list let's see what the Elecraft QSO Party rules have to say about QRP power levels... "When using QRP calling frequencies, use QRP power (5W or less for CW/Digital, 10W PEP or less for SSB)" When in doubt always ask the sponsor of the contest for a clarification on what they consider QRP power on SSB (before the contest begins) so you can operate the maximum power allowed for that mode. If the rules say that 10W PEP on SSB is QRP...you can bet the house that the guys you are going to compete against are going to be running 10W on SSB even if they normally define SSB QRP as 5W. 73 de Tom K2TA - Original Message - From: "Bob Tellefsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Kent Tannery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRP Power Level? Hi Kent I went through this a while back. QRP for every contest I could find is spec'd at 5w out, cw or ssb. Good luck and 73 Bob N6WG - Original Message - From: "Kent Tannery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 8:25 AM Subject: [Elecraft] QRP Power Level? Can someone tell me the "official" definition of QRP Power Level? Is it 5 watts for voice and CW modes? I notice that many contests have a QRP class but they do not define QRP power and I cannot find it on ARRL site. Thanks, Kent KD5SHM K2/100 #4631 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com - Jack Brindle, W6FB - ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com