[Elecraft] Re: Unique synthesizer LO ?
John, KI6WX wrote: The ARRL composite transmit noise measurements that were published in QST are in error And not just for the K2. It turns out that all transmitter phase noise plots published in QST going back for many years include a 7.5 dB error in favor of the rigs. The lab has identified this error and corrected it, so going forward we'll see more accurate numbers. Much of the error is traceable to a decades-old HP application note that, apparently, had been taken for gospel. 73, Wayne N6KR --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Unique synthesizer LO ?
Peter; I have posted on the web a detailed set of measurements of the K2 phase noise, both in receive and transmit. The measurements cover a frequency range of 20 Hz to 45 kHz. These measurements can be viewed at: http://home.pacbell.net/johngreb/k2phasenoise.pdf The ARRL composite transmit noise measurements that were published in QST are in errror and show less noise than reality. The transmit phase noise measurements in the above document are the correct phase noise measurements, but they do not include any amplitude noise that might be on the transmit carrier. The K2 oscillator phase noise is good for a simple low-current synthesizer, but there are ways to make it better. I note some of those in the above document. A re-designed K2 RF board could drop the phase noise by at least 10 dB, which would improve the 5 kHz two-tone third-order dynamic range 6 dB. -John KI6WX Maybe not the cleverest question of the year but I cannot resolve this one myself and I'm eager to understand. It is said that the synthesized LO of the K2 is of a unique design. Though, when I compare the LO phase noise specs of the K2 and the AOR7030, the latter seems to show much better specs. What makes the K2 synthesizer so special ? I'd appreciate any comment. Peter, PE1E ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report for August 6th & 7th, 2006
Good evening, Twenty meters seemed weaker than usual with more QRN too. Forty meters had its fair share of QRN and even weaker signals. However, we were able to gather 23 check ins between the two nets. At least one of them took two relays to get back to NCS. The net has had over 2600 check ins during the course of its existence. 435 separate individuals have checked in with a variety of gear. Some have gone so far as to check in with SEVEN different Elecraft rigs. We try to have fun and I think it is contagious. The weather reports came in a bit cooler than last week but there were a couple power outages. Mine took a few days to solve completely and now Ken is cleaning up after his storm in Fargo. Hopefully the damage was minimal. Most of us need rain but the folks in New Mexico may be asking for their normal sunshine after the flooding on the Rio Grande. I have not heard from my friends from Albuquerque yet about how they fared. Pat and I lived in a house with an arroyo on its back boundary. The reports I read stated our section of town was hit. Now to find out how bad. On to the lists ::> On 14049.50 kHz at 2300z: N0SS - Tom - MO - K2 - 008 QNI #160!!! KL7CW - Rick - AK - KX1 - 798 W0CZ - Ken - ND - K2 - 1031 AB9V - Mike - IN - K2 - 3993 K2HYD - Ray - VA - KX1 - 608 W1WCG - Van - CT - K2 - 2634 W0NTA - Dick - CO - K2 - 3900QNI #70!!! NK6A - Don - CA - K2 - 1217 ? W7/ZL2DF - Nigel - WA - K2 - 3029 QNI #5! K6DGW - Fred - CA - K2 - 4398 QNI #35!! K4BEH - Pat - GA - K2 - 5061 On 7045 kHz at 0200z: N0SS - Tom - MO - K2 - 008 W0CZ - Ken - ND - K2 - 1031 NK6A - Don - CA - K2 - 1217 ? AE6GC - Jack - CA - KX1 - 1403 W1WCG - Van - CT - K2 - 2634 K4BEH - Pat - GA - K2 - 5061 N0AR - Scott - MN - K2 - 4866 KL7CW - Rick - AK - KX1 - 798 W7/ZL2DF - Nigel - WA - K2 - 3029 KB5ELV - Buddy - PA - K2 - 3491 K6DBG - Chris - CA - K2 - 3641 K1EV - Bill - CT - K2 - 2152 QNI #70!!! It was nice to hear from you all again. I gathered, via intercept, that Nigel will be travelling back to New Zealand soon. It sure was nice to have him join us over the past month. One day I hope to check him in from his home station. Have a good trip home Nigel! As ever, if there are any corrections or additions which you can make to the above lists please email me. I will try to get everything in order but my chores are eating up a lot of time. I cannot wait until winter when all my summer chores are past and I am less busy. Until next week, 73, Kevin. KD5ONS (Net Control Operator 5th Class) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Considering K-1 or K-2
Phil Zminda wrote: I'm looking for a low power rig for at home QRP or pic-nic bench portable/vacation use. Thanks, Phil N3ZP ___ Hello Phil, For home or picnic usage, you will be very happy with either one. Having said that, my opinion is that the barebones K-2 is a lot more radio and a better performer than a K-1. I have both and enjoy both, but feel the K-2 is a cut above the K-1 in every respect except for the fact that I like the audio of the K-1 better (don't know why that is, I just do). So, either way you won't go wrong. 73, Terry W9TRB East Central Illinois ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] FS: KX1 4 Band with accessories
I have the following for sale. everything is in excellent condition and works well. KX1 (serial number 990) - 40/20 radio KXAT1 - auto tuner KXB3080 - 30m and 80m module KXPD1 - paddle All Factory Manuals Nifty Manual 8 cell AA battery case BNC to 2 wire adapter BNC to SO-239 adapter Sony earbuds Everything is packed in a Pelican 1120 case. The radio is assembled and works well with external 13 vdc the radio puts out the following power: 80 - 3.0w 40 - 3.8w 30 - 4.0w 20 - 2.6w with the built in 6 AA's (of questionable condition) I see the following power: 80 - 1.6 w 40 - 1.7 w 30 - 1.9 w 20 - 1.6 w Will ship and insure everything via US Priority Mail for $485. (The radio, tuner, 30/80 module, and paddle sell for $522 plus shipping in kit form) Please email for more info if needed. Thanks Tim NZ8J ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K1 problem
Thanks for suggestions from several, both on and off the list. With an ohm-meter, I checked that K2, K4 and K6 were in the correct state with 20 selected, and they were. I did a triple visual check of all the 20m-specific component solder joints on the filter board and they looked fine. But I re-heated all those joints anyway and voila! It works again!! So I guess one of those joints was marginal. We'll see if this occurs again. By the way, I'm loving the K1, but not quite as much as my K2! 73, Randy, KS4L ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft linear
Hi group I am wondering anybody knows whether elecraft linears are FCC approved. When will elecraft start to sell them? Moe MM0MRM K2 #5158 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 Reading AGC Voltage and U2 Failure
I was getting ready to verify the AGC voltage on a one year old working K2 when my probe slipped while trying to read the voltage on pin 5 of U2. The K2 locked up sending continuous dots and no buttons function on the front panel. The dispaly locked up on the last frequency it was reading and the tuning dial has no effect on it. Maybe I shouldnt have done this but I decided to try a master reset just in case. Which didnt solve the problem --- but the k2 did reset. But its still hung up but this time with a dash all the time rather than continous dots. According to the voltage readings on U2 of the control panel, pin 3 has only .27 volts on it. While pin 6 and 7 both read 3.8V.So it would appear that the probe slipping has caused U2 to fail?I can adjust the agc threshold voltage for the proper 3.8V on pin 5. I dont have a spare LM833 on hand to be able to confirm thats what happened but it would appear so. Am I the only one who has had the probe slip on U2 while trying to read the AGC Threshold Voltage? Frank W7is ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Band Conditions
I worked LU5DYV in Argentina on June 10th, on 20m. I did it with a Anttron Hamwhip on my Taurus while driving across I-70 in Indiana. The rig, was the awesome KX-1 at about 2w. A few mins later I hear N5KY in QSO all the way from Albequrque NM...he gave me an honest to goodness 569 on my KX1 2w mobile. He was running 500w and was blowing my headphones off. GREAT fist. I would suggest if you want to work DX on 20m, you turn on the radio and do some listening for a bit. Seems like when it opens, it is really open...but it may only last 20-30 minutes. 73 = Radio Amateurs - Fill your junk box, from my junkbox! http://www.hamradparts.com 73 de KB9BVN = - Original Message - From: "Karl Larsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ron D'Eau Claire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "'Elecraft Reflector'" Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Band Conditions > Yes that is fun and 40 meters is where you will find activity at > night if the noise is low enough. But this is not as good as it will get > when conditions improve. And they will. Then you will work DX with a 6 > foot mobile antenna QRP. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] No 20 Meters with K1
I have a problem with the K1. I have the 4 bands 40,30,20,17 meters. The K1 skips from 30 meters to 17 meters. I suppose the answer has something to do with "B1-4 but do not know how to fix it. Help! Paul, KD3JF Glen Burnie, MD FM19qd (Map Grid Square) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Considering K-1 or K-2
Phil: The noise blanker and audio filters are nice, but not totally necessary. As a CW guy you do not the SSB option. As a QRPer you do not need the high power option. Unless you have a special fondness for 160m you do not need that. You can get by without an external tuner. In other words, even a bare bones K2 will run circles around any other QRP rig. The kit will cost you $600 and is worth every penny. 73, Steve AA4AK At 06:11 PM 8/6/2006, Phil Zminda wrote: I'm looking for a low power rig for at home QRP or pic-nic bench portable/vacation use. I'm primarily a cw guy. I built a Ten-tec 1340 recently to use portable, but I found that having about 2.5 watts on 40 meters only was a big handicap with a travel antenna. I worked in electronics assembly in a past life and have built Heathkits and homebrew projects also. After the 1340, I think I'm ready to consider a K-1, 4-band or K-2. I see used IC-403's and FT-817's for sale in the $350 to $400 range, but wonder how they compare to the K-1 and K-2. I'm leaning for the K-1 primarily on budget and available spare time for building but see a lot to like in the K-2. Any comments on comparing these rigs? If I went with the K-2, would I be satisfied with a bare bones model without adding too many options? Thanks, Phil N3ZP ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Considering K-1 or K-2
There ought to be a FAQ! With either rig I would suggest the built in tuner option. The K-2 definitely is a higher performance radio, and bigger and heavier. Also don't forget the KX-1! As for those other radios, if they break, where do you get parts? I have a K-1 that got zapped pretty good by lightning and I got it running again having replaced about half a dozen components. Not sure that would be possible if it had been the FT-817 that got zapped. Good luck on picking a radio, each has its strong points. I suppose part of it is really deciding what your requirements exactly are. 73/72 - Mike WA8BXN ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Considering K-1 or K-2
I'm looking for a low power rig for at home QRP or pic-nic bench portable/vacation use. I'm primarily a cw guy. I built a Ten-tec 1340 recently to use portable, but I found that having about 2.5 watts on 40 meters only was a big handicap with a travel antenna. I worked in electronics assembly in a past life and have built Heathkits and homebrew projects also. After the 1340, I think I'm ready to consider a K-1, 4-band or K-2. I see used IC-403's and FT-817's for sale in the $350 to $400 range, but wonder how they compare to the K-1 and K-2. I'm leaning for the K-1 primarily on budget and available spare time for building but see a lot to like in the K-2. Any comments on comparing these rigs? If I went with the K-2, would I be satisfied with a bare bones model without adding too many options? Thanks, Phil N3ZP ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Band Conditions
Karl wrote: If you just turn on your radio right now you may hear nothing but noise. As you say if you tune around for and hour you might hear something. But if your looking for a friend across country your not likely to hear him now. In a year or two it will get much better. - Of course you have to consider the general propagation that is pretty independent of the sunspots. 40 meters and longer wavelengths are "local" bands in the daytime, thanks to lower atmospheric ionization caused by solar radiation. I think this last cycle was my fifth sunspot maxima on the HF bands. My first was the mega-cycle on the 1950's when I frequently chatted with South American Hams on 10 meter AM phone running perhaps one or two watts into a mobile whip on my way home from school in the afternoons in Southern California. That cycle has never been repeated - yet. Of course, what's different during the sunspot minimum is that the MUF runs much lower than during the maxima. Instead of reaching 50 or 60 MHz at times during a maxima, the MUF might not get above 15 or 20 MHz many days during the minima; sometimes it won't reach 10 MHz. On the other hand, geomagnetic storms are much less frequent, so "black out" periods are pretty rare during the minima. Of course, atmospheric QRN is lower on the higher bands, so when the MUF is high, the problem of band QRN is much reduced. That's a major reason why so much spectacular DX on wavelengths shorter than about 20 meters turns up during the maxima: a signal that's Q5 on 15 meters might be buried deep in the QRN on 40 or 80. Another point is that propagation is more stable now. When sunspots are more active, things change more quickly. Openings open and close much more quickly. Now the bands change much more slowly and are predictable. If you have a weekly sked with a buddy on a given band and time of day, you'll find the signals much more consistent week in and week out now. Of course, if you're trying to link up over a path that requires exceptional skip conditions, you may be out of luck until things get more chaotic again with the rise of the next cycle. But that's only the propagation that has been identified well enough to study and predict. There are other modes that appear that still confound the scientists to identify, much less predict, and which definitely do not show up in the computer models. For example, I have experience with Marine CW communications in the 600 meter band (400-500 kHz). Some years ago a ship in the middle of the Pacific heard an SOS on 500 kHz in the middle of the night. Sparky woke the Captain and they immediately headed for the signal using the radio direction finder all ships carried then. After several hours of chasing the signal and not being able to find anything, they finally got the whole story. The signal was real. It was a lifeboat radio with survivors aboard, but it was in the middle of the Mediterranean Sea halfway around the world and in daylight! There was no way a 500 kHz signal running a few watts into a miniscule antenna should have been heard more than a few miles in daylight or perhaps some dozens of miles at night, but there is was, rattling the automatic alarms half a world away. Also, the sunspot upswing tends to happen faster than the downswing. That is, it won't be long before hints of future chaotic propagation heralding the rise of the next cycle start appearing more often. So enjoy this period. It can be as interesting as the peaks, in its own way. Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] August NAQCC Sprint
This Tuesday evening (Wednesday morning UTC time) will be the NAQCC Sprint for August. This month, the Sprint will be held on 80, 40 and 20 meters. Two special certificates will be handed out this month. The highest number of cross Mississippi River QSOs will be noted for the appropriate Eastern and Western operators. The Sprint will run from 8:30 to 10:30 PM EDT, 7:30 to 9:30 PM CDT, 6:30 to 8:30 PM MDT and 5:30 to 7:30 PM PDT or from 0030 to 0230 UTC on the morning of August 9th. The recommended frequencies are: 80M - 3555-3565 kHz (Be courteous to FISTS operating on 3558 kHz) 40M - 7039-7050 kHz (Avoid W1AW on 7047.5 kHz) 20M - 14059-14065 kHz. The exchange is as follows: RST - SPC (State Province or Country) - NAQCC Nr. (non-Members send power level in place of NAQCC Nr., e.g. 5W, 1W, etc. Be sure to add the W.) Remember to mention the type of antenna you have used when submitting your log as there will be two separate categories - simple wire antennas and gain antennas, such as yagis, quads and periodics. Also, remember the bonus multipliers that you get for using either a straight key or bug during the event. All entries must be postmarked or email dated before 2400Z on August 15, 2006. For full details, please visit http://www.arm-tek.net/~yoel/sprint200608.html And to join the NAQCC (if you haven't already!) please go to http://www.arm-tek.net/~yoel/joinup.html 73 de Larry W2LJ NAQCC #35 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Is someone missing a power cord?
Sorry for the bandwidth, but I have not been able to identify the owner of a power cord I just found while cleaning my workbench. Someone that I repaired/upgraded a QRP K2 or a KX1 shipped an assembled power cord with the radio, I remember that fact, but don't recall who it was - but I just located it under a pile of 'stuff' on my workbench. If the unlucky person identifies himself (private mail please), it will be in the mail tomorrow. 73, Don W3FPR ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K60XV help
John, The most likely thing wrong is that the K60XV is not properly plugged into the RF Board headers. I have 'been there, done that' many times. It is difficult to see under the board while plugging it in, but get your head down close to the board and peer under it. If the board is tilted when inserting it, the headers can easily end up one pin off. The connections to the RCA jacks are a bit tight and make it difficult to get it right - pull the board up as high as you can and then make it parallel with the RF Board before attempting to plug it into the headers. 73, Don W3FPR > -Original Message- > > I just installed the K60XV on K2 #5312. I did not receive "INFO 080" > when first turned on. After changing D19 to yes on secondary menu, I > could not find the band. I removed the board and replaced it after > determining that the pins were inserted correctly. THEN, I got the > evil "INFO 080" when turned back on. > > If the K60XV board is unplugged (still connected to phono plugs), K2 > is normal. > > I have checked the values of C12 and R1: both correct. The notch on > U1 is facing the relay. There are no obvious solder problems. > > Any and all help greatly appreciated. > > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Band Conditions
Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: The 'bottom of the sunspot cycle' can be downright frustrating if one wants to work DXCC in a weekend using a dipole, but it can be a very interesting time to be 'spooking the aether'. I work most of my DX when the bands are 'dead'. I don't band-hop much. I'll pick a band - may favorite DX band is 20 meters - and spend an hour listening to static if that's what's there while tuning across the band. That's where I find a lot of interesting contacts. Much like 6 or 2 meters when an opening hits, suddenly there will be a signal or two standing well above the noise, and they're often long DX - sometimes long-path DX as well. Sometimes we chew the rag for a while because he was listening to a 'dead' band too. Maybe that happens more now because the guys looking for a 30-second QSO before jumping off to another station are punching the band-buttons like crazy looking for a pileup or they've given up entirely. I exaggerated. On 20 I don't think I've ever listened to static for a full hour. Long before then I've scared up a QSO somewhere . The other night I was listening to a very quiet 40 meter CW band. I'm currently on a temporary antenna. It's what most would call a NVIS antenna on 40. It's an end-fed dipole less than 20 feet up. Virtually all of my contacts are along the west coast from my QTH near the Oregon coast. I normally don't expect to work anything east of the Rocky Mountains. I called a brief CQ, and there was a reply just above the noise. Cool, I thought; I always enjoy working a weak signal. It turned out to be N9DFM, Dave in Minnesota, running 5 watts! So I cranked down my power from 100 to 5 watts and he copied me QRP as well. Not fantastic DX, I know, but a FB QSO and over a 1,700+ mile hop I don't normally expect to work even when the band is very active. And all on low-slung temporary antenna. Yes that is fun and 40 meters is where you will find activity at night if the noise is low enough. But this is not as good as it will get when conditions improve. And they will. Then you will work DX with a 6 foot mobile antenna QRP. If you just turn on your radio right now you may hear nothing but noise. As you say if you tune around for and hour you might hear something. But if your looking for a friend across country your not likely to hear him now. In a year or two it will get much better. 73 Karl The bands aren't "out". They're just different than they were a couple of years ago. Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
Good Afternoon, Sorry for the very late announcement but the power has been intermittent this weekend. A tree must have broken a line in a remote location since it took them so long to fix it. I arrived home on Friday evening only to have the lights go out about two minutes later. They got the power up and running after about six hours but yesterday evening it went out again. Life in the country can be interesting! Good thing I have a camp stove and some water stored. Forty meters was fairly good during a contact on Thursday evening. Hopefully the same will be true later today. Please join us: Sunday 2300z (Sunday 4pm PDT) 14050 kHz Monday 0200z (Sunday 7pm PDT) 7045 kHz Until a bit later today, Kevin. KD5ONS ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Band Conditions
heh heh Ron, wb1hga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However I must confess to running 200 watts on 30 meters and 500 on the other bands. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Band Conditions
The 'bottom of the sunspot cycle' can be downright frustrating if one wants to work DXCC in a weekend using a dipole, but it can be a very interesting time to be 'spooking the aether'. I work most of my DX when the bands are 'dead'. I don't band-hop much. I'll pick a band - may favorite DX band is 20 meters - and spend an hour listening to static if that's what's there while tuning across the band. That's where I find a lot of interesting contacts. Much like 6 or 2 meters when an opening hits, suddenly there will be a signal or two standing well above the noise, and they're often long DX - sometimes long-path DX as well. Sometimes we chew the rag for a while because he was listening to a 'dead' band too. Maybe that happens more now because the guys looking for a 30-second QSO before jumping off to another station are punching the band-buttons like crazy looking for a pileup or they've given up entirely. I exaggerated. On 20 I don't think I've ever listened to static for a full hour. Long before then I've scared up a QSO somewhere . The other night I was listening to a very quiet 40 meter CW band. I'm currently on a temporary antenna. It's what most would call a NVIS antenna on 40. It's an end-fed dipole less than 20 feet up. Virtually all of my contacts are along the west coast from my QTH near the Oregon coast. I normally don't expect to work anything east of the Rocky Mountains. I called a brief CQ, and there was a reply just above the noise. Cool, I thought; I always enjoy working a weak signal. It turned out to be N9DFM, Dave in Minnesota, running 5 watts! So I cranked down my power from 100 to 5 watts and he copied me QRP as well. Not fantastic DX, I know, but a FB QSO and over a 1,700+ mile hop I don't normally expect to work even when the band is very active. And all on low-slung temporary antenna. The bands aren't "out". They're just different than they were a couple of years ago. Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Band Conditions
The bands could be better, they could be worse. I think the real knowledge we have about propagation of radio waves is that it is always changing. In the NAQP yesterday, I worked CA, FL, and ME on 20 meters, in the late afternoon, with a homebrew fishing pole vertical, and my KX1 at about 3w. About an hour later, I worked CA, NY, and FL with the same antenna and my SW20+ at about 1.5w San Diego is about 2200 miles from meboth QSO's were with stations in San Diego. I also worked San Francisco. During NAQP the 20m band was buzzing with stations from all over. At about 5PM I tuned around 40m and there were stations everywhere. Keep trying Karl, maybe your antenna needs adjusted? 73 = Radio Amateurs - Fill your junk box, from my junkbox! http://www.hamradparts.com 73 de KB9BVN = - Original Message - From: "Karl Larsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Elecraft" Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 11:59 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Band Conditions > Leave it alone because the bands are broken, > not your radio. It will be very seldom that you hear anything much on 20 > meters. And 40 meters is noisy right now. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Band Conditions
How about it folks. Lets hear about your fun filled experiences! Ron, wb1hga "CW, an esoteric experience" Ron: I had 21 QSOs (19 QRP) on 15 meters between 1900Z and 2000Z yesterday. I admit that when the flux is 70, it is rare to have 15 meter openings like the one that happened yesterday. On the other hand, except for 0500-1100Z, 20 meters is practically always open from here in Maine to somewhere interesting. There was 5W0 was on 40 m at about 0620Z on Sunday morning. He was calling CQ, and had few takers although he was a solid S8 in Maine. He gave my 5 watt signal a 599, but I suspect that is what he had programmed into his keyer. Last night, 80 meters was extremely noisy, but I did work several stations west of the Mississippi on QRP. Many hams besides me have observed what might be called the "contest effect." A band normally seems dead, but somehow bristles with signals during a contest. One problem is that everybody assumes a band is dead and nobody calls. I suspect that another part of the problem during low flux is strong and fast QSB; the band has many brief openings on specific paths. For example, I might hear several California stations on 15 or 20 meters, but not be able to hear the W6WX beacon at all. Yesterday, on 15 meters I could sometimes hear west coast stations as if they were across the street. A few minutes later they would fade into the noise, and a few minutes after that, they'd be back as strong as ever. This might account for the "contest effect." When there are lots of contesters on, one hears somebody on those paths that are temporarily open. Since those spot openings come and go quickly, one hears a pretty broad sampling over time. 73, Steve AA4AK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Band Conditions
Stephen W. Kercel wrote: How's that again? In the NA QSO party yesterday, both 15 and 20 meters were in fine fettle. On 15, I worked stations as far away as the west coast. On 20 I worked Brazil and Russia. On a very quiet 40 meter band I worked Samoa. On 80, I worked N6ZZ in New Mexico. Overall I had about 200 QSOs in 8 hours of operating. All this was with 5 Watts and dipole antennas from Maine. At 11:59 AM 8/6/2006, Karl Larsen wrote: In about 6 years QRP will be a lot of fun. Nor does one have to wait 6 years either ... SS cycles typically rise a lot faster than they decline, and the band improvements are much more noticable since we compare conditions to those at the minimum. I suspect we will begin seeing improvements by this time next year, and major improvements by winter 2008. Some prognosticators are predicting Cycle 24 will rival Cycle 19 (I was a new teen ham in 53 and thought it just stayed that way all the time!). Others are not so sure. I'm with the first group since my current life expectancy is slowly closing in on the length of a cycle at about minus one year per year (I hope!), and this may be the last full cycle I get to see (again, I hope!). 73, Fred K6DGW Auburn CA CM98lw CU in the Cal QSO Party 7-8 Oct 2006 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Panadapter Kit
Speaking as a dyed-in-wool elecrafter (I have purchased and built virtually every product they offer!) ... I welcome the posting of relevant, third-party add-ons that complement the wonderful electraft product line. The Z90/Z91 promises to be terrific addition to my shack ... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Smith Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 3:01 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Panadapter Kit First, thanks to Mike W1BNC for the kind words about the Z90 and Z91 panadapter project I've been working on since the first of the year. Because almost all my prospective customers are Elecrafters, I've ordered a K2 for my own use and for testing. Unfortunately, I don't have time to enjoy the building process myself and Frank, W6NEK, is building it for me. I look forward to receiving it in the next two or three weeks. I've added a fair bit of new information to my web site in the last few days that I hope will be of general interest on panadapters, scan speeds, etc. I know this is material that I have not seen frequently posted in the general amateur literature. http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/Updates.htm is a good starting point to see the changes. The ptototype K2 adapter board will be tested in a real K2 this week and I have plans for some changes to it as soon as I have my hands on my own K2. I don't know the protocol on this reflector, so I hope this is not considered to be too much of a commercial for the Z90/91 pandapter kit. Also, I sent this message once before, but from the wrong account (I think) so apologies if it shows up twice. 73 de Jack K8ZOA -- This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender by return email and delete the original message. Please note, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The organization accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. == ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Band Conditions
However I must confess to running 200 watts on 30 meters and 500 on the other bands. Doug W6JD -- Original message -- From: ron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > UNH?? > Band conditions may not be wonderful, but I'm having lots of fun NOW. > > I can still work the world (and State side) with my K1. > I don't have to wait for 7 years! (smile) > > How about it folks. > Lets hear about your fun filled experiences! > > Ron, wb1hga > "CW, an esoteric experience" > > someone wrote: > > ".the bands are broken, not your radio. It will be very seldom that > > you hear anything much on 20 meters. And 40 meters is noisy right now." > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Panadapter Kit
First, thanks to Mike W1BNC for the kind words about the Z90 and Z91 panadapter project I've been working on since the first of the year. Because almost all my prospective customers are Elecrafters, I've ordered a K2 for my own use and for testing. Unfortunately, I don't have time to enjoy the building process myself and Frank, W6NEK, is building it for me. I look forward to receiving it in the next two or three weeks. I've added a fair bit of new information to my web site in the last few days that I hope will be of general interest on panadapters, scan speeds, etc. I know this is material that I have not seen frequently posted in the general amateur literature. http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/Updates.htm is a good starting point to see the changes. The ptototype K2 adapter board will be tested in a real K2 this week and I have plans for some changes to it as soon as I have my hands on my own K2. I don't know the protocol on this reflector, so I hope this is not considered to be too much of a commercial for the Z90/91 pandapter kit. Also, I sent this message once before, but from the wrong account (I think) so apologies if it shows up twice. 73 de Jack K8ZOA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Band Conditions
The bands, even 17 meters, were perfectly adequate for the Montenegro (4O3/YU6) and Swains Island (KH8S) operations and I've been working Europe, including YU6AO, routinely on 30 meters with a Force 12 vertical dipole. I think that the perception that the bands are in bad shape feeds on itself and becomes a self full filing prophecy. Get on and listen! If all else fails call CQ. Make your own ionosphere! Doug W6JD -- Original message -- From: ron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > UNH?? > Band conditions may not be wonderful, but I'm having lots of fun NOW. > > I can still work the world (and State side) with my K1. > I don't have to wait for 7 years! (smile) > > How about it folks. > Lets hear about your fun filled experiences! > > Ron, wb1hga > "CW, an esoteric experience" > > someone wrote: > > ".the bands are broken, not your radio. It will be very seldom that > > you hear anything much on 20 meters. And 40 meters is noisy right now." > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: ???
--- KEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alex, Don't you mean KAT2, rather that KAF2. You may > be confusing potential assistance73's..Ken Sorry! Of course KAT2. :) 73! Alex UR5LAM __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Band Conditions
UNH?? Band conditions may not be wonderful, but I'm having lots of fun NOW. I can still work the world (and State side) with my K1. I don't have to wait for 7 years! (smile) How about it folks. Lets hear about your fun filled experiences! Ron, wb1hga "CW, an esoteric experience" someone wrote: ".the bands are broken, not your radio. It will be very seldom that you hear anything much on 20 meters. And 40 meters is noisy right now." ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K60XV help
Hi, I just installed the K60XV on K2 #5312. I did not receive "INFO 080" when first turned on. After changing D19 to yes on secondary menu, I could not find the band. I removed the board and replaced it after determining that the pins were inserted correctly. THEN, I got the evil "INFO 080" when turned back on. If the K60XV board is unplugged (still connected to phono plugs), K2 is normal. I have checked the values of C12 and R1: both correct. The notch on U1 is facing the relay. There are no obvious solder problems. Any and all help greatly appreciated. John AB8WH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] KX1 S/N 1043 up and running...Hooray!...KXB30 working..Hooray!..KXAT1 Problem...Boo!
Finally got around to putting together my KX1 and it really is a great little rig to build and use. Yesterday I built and installed the KXAT1 and after initially I only got the --- display meaning it was not working properly!...I reheated all the solder connections and lo and behold It sprang into life. Today I built the 30m module (bit of a tricky install that one!).did the re-peaking and all that and it appears to be working fine. Re-installed the KXAT1 and it is back to the --- display.rechecked the solder joints.looked for solder splash's (none I can see).so any ideas where I should check next? 73 Paul G0WAT ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Band Conditions
".the bands are broken, not your radio. It will be very seldom that you hear anything much on 20 meters. And 40 meters is noisy right now." How's that again? In the NA QSO party yesterday, both 15 and 20 meters were in fine fettle. On 15, I worked stations as far away as the west coast. On 20 I worked Brazil and Russia. On a very quiet 40 meter band I worked Samoa. On 80, I worked N6ZZ in New Mexico. Overall I had about 200 QSOs in 8 hours of operating. All this was with 5 Watts and dipole antennas from Maine. The bands are far from broken, and QRP is readily workable. The only thing to be concerned about is when K>2 or A>10, working DX on QRP can become frustrating. Anyway, one does not need to wait for the flux to come up. There's plenty of activity for QRPers right now. 73, Steve AA4AK At 11:59 AM 8/6/2006, Karl Larsen wrote: This morning the Flux was 70 and the K index was 0. This is "Sunspot Minimum" readings of the sun. What does this mean to a QRP Operator? Do not re-align your K2 receiver, or re-tune the transmitter for another 0.1 Watt of output. Leave it alone because the bands are broken, not your radio. It will be very seldom that you hear anything much on 20 meters. And 40 meters is noisy right now. In a couple of months we should see the K index get active (a little) and the Flux will zoom up to 90. When that happens get on the air :-) You can get the Flux and K index from listening to WWV. At 18 minutes after the hour a muffled voice gives you these current numbers. WWV is on 2.5, 5, 10, 15, and 20 MHz. They run 25 KW so you hear them even when conditions are poor! In about 6 years QRP will be a lot of fun. 73 Karl K5DI ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Band Conditions
This morning the Flux was 70 and the K index was 0. This is "Sunspot Minimum" readings of the sun. What does this mean to a QRP Operator? Do not re-align your K2 receiver, or re-tune the transmitter for another 0.1 Watt of output. Leave it alone because the bands are broken, not your radio. It will be very seldom that you hear anything much on 20 meters. And 40 meters is noisy right now. In a couple of months we should see the K index get active (a little) and the Flux will zoom up to 90. When that happens get on the air :-) You can get the Flux and K index from listening to WWV. At 18 minutes after the hour a muffled voice gives you these current numbers. WWV is on 2.5, 5, 10, 15, and 20 MHz. They run 25 KW so you hear them even when conditions are poor! In about 6 years QRP will be a lot of fun. 73 Karl K5DI ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 problem
Randy wrote: > ... 20m sounded very quiet. I could only hear a handful of signals and > all of those, as well as the noise level, were way down. Randy, there have been a lot of reports of 20m hetrodyne crystal failures on the KFL1-4. Can you hear a good strong 22 MHz (+/- 10 kHz) signal in another receiver (with antenna wire looped near the RF PCB) when 20m is selected on your K1? See you at the Huntsville, AL, hamfest two weekends from now. 73, Mike / KK5F ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: K1 construction time
No, actually, I think 30 hours is just about right. If you're an electronics assembler for a living, it might take a bit less; but 30 hours is just about what I spent on mine. Of course, I double check everything before soldering; and I solder each component one at a time. I figure that a) I don't want to see any smoke and b) if I have to troubleshoot, at least let it be for something that wasn't my stupid mistake! After all, the goal is to end up with a working radio; not to end up with a working radio in the shortest amount of time! We can go to the FDIM building contest for that! 73 de Larry W2LJ -- Larry W2LJ QRP - When you care to send the very least! http://www.qsl.net/w2lj http://w2lj.blogspot.com/ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] A Good Day With The KX1
Paul, Using a mobile antenna like the Hamstick on a vehicle is one of the easiest ways to have fun portable with a QRP rig. If you didn't do it, try using a few (3 or 4) relatively short (20 feet or so) radials from the base of the antenna. I use insulated wire and just let them fall where they will. You will be amazed at the performance enhancement. 73 de Dave, W6BK - Original Message - From: "Paul Gates, KD3JF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 6:40 PM Subject: [Elecraft] A Good Day With The KX1 The YL and I had a good day at the National Zoo in Wash. DC Set up the KX1 in the Parking Lot with a 40 meter Ham Stick and made contacts with the KX1. I was excited about that because I have made very few contacts in the past with the KX1. I have not hooked any cables up to the car battery yet but a few months ago John Harper had told me about the 11.1 V. LiPoly battery and used it today. The KX1 was putting out 3.5-4 watts so that made it pretty easy to have some contacts. We parked by an Island of grass under a shady tree and set up our 2 folding chairs with a shelf on the right side of the chair so that made operating a breeze. The Antenna was in the clear and set up in the center of the rear deck of our Impala. Paul, KD3JF Paul, KD3JF Glen Burnie, MD FM19qd (Map Grid Square) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: K1 construction time
Hi Cathy, I built my K1 back in 2004 and kept very careful records of my construction time. It took me 30 hours for my 4-band version without the ATU. That included everything from opening the shipping container to the final cover screw. It also included the set-up and clean-up times for each building session that are required in my situation because I don't have a place where projects can just be left out. I do have other kit building experience but the K1 was my first "big" project. I'm sure that it can be built in a lot less time but I tend to go slow and stretch it out. I probably enjoy the building as much as I enjoy the operating. So it's kind of like eating a good dessert - you can eat it fast or slow down and enjoy each bite! 73 Paul - N8XMS ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
