RE: [Elecraft] Microphone preamp and Heils

2007-02-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dave,

As far as the connections to the mic, yes, you will be 'good to go' if you
use the Kenwood adapter and wire the K2 for the Kenwood configuration..
Whether you will want a preamp or not with that HC5 element is an entirely
different question.  For use with your HC5 element Proset, you might want to
make the changes to the KSB2 board suggested by Jim Brown - Jim is an expert
in the Pro-Audio field and has done a lot with ham radio too, so if Jim
found those changes helpful, I do not boubt his word, in fact I may make
those changes here too just to see what happens.  In any case, you do not
have your K2 completely built yet, so do not modify anything until you
complete the kit and have things up and running.

Of course, there is another alternative if you use only the boom/headset
type mic - the Elecraft Proset-K2 is still available from Elecraft.
I really don't know what happened with the MH2 and MD2 mics - they were good
although I do recall a few complaints about the MH2 which was the handheld
mic (in an impact resistant hard plastic case) - the desk mic (MD2) is a
very nice metal body microphone.  I have both here.  If you can find someone
selling the MH2 or the MD2, you may want to check it out (I am not giving up
mine!).

73,
Don W3FPR

> -Original Message-
>
> Never did get a clear answer on this.  If I wire the K2 up for the
> Kenwood, and I have a Heil Pro Headset with the Kenwood adapter, I will
> be good to go?
>
> Curious, why did they stop making the Elecraft associated mike?  Was it
> plastic or metal?
>
> David Wilburn
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Z6, grounded can?

2007-02-16 Thread David Wilburn
FB, it was just that we had grounded all the other cans, so I wasn't 
sure.  Thanks.


David Wilburn
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Don Wilhelm wrote:

Dave,

Congratulations on your progress.

Don't worry about the empty holes - all holes are not filled, many are via
holes to get a signal (or ground) from the top of the board to the bottom.
If you need to check anything else of that nature, look at the parts
placement diagram near the end of the manual, you will find it quite
helpful.  It does not show the holes, just the component placements.

73,
Don W3FPR


-Original Message-

I'm installing T6 (yes there is a god, this is the last of the toroids
for a little bit) and noticed a hole next to Z6.  I did not see anything
in the text, but the holes on either side of the can are in the ground
plane so I was not sure.
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Re: [Elecraft] Microphone preamp and Heils

2007-02-16 Thread David Wilburn
Never did get a clear answer on this.  If I wire the K2 up for the 
Kenwood, and I have a Heil Pro Headset with the Kenwood adapter, I will 
be good to go?


Curious, why did they stop making the Elecraft associated mike?  Was it 
plastic or metal?


David Wilburn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



David Wilburn wrote:
Just curious of why the focus on the ICOM mikes?  When I looked at the 
drawing for the pins on the front panel, it looked like the Kenwood was 
the least complicated to wire.


A bit off topic, the Heil website does not show the hand mikes anymore. 
 Well not a 'real' hand mike that sits and your hand as something 
rugged.  They have these little microphone mikes.  Not something that 
I'm interested in connecting to any of my radios.  If I want a hands 
free setup, I'll use a headset and boom.  Bar that, if I want to talk on 
a mike and listen via the speaker, I want a substantial mike that feels 
like I have something in my hand.


My current plan is to wire my K2 up for the Kenwood microphone.  My 
other radio is a TS-570.  The assumption on my part, is that I will then 
be able to use my Heil headset on both the Kenwood and the K2.  Is this 
a valid assumption?


David Wilburn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Don Wilhelm wrote:
The Heil microphone preamps are required for the Heil microphones 
using the
HC4 and HC5 elements.  The electret elements do not need a preamp (but 
they
do need a resistor at the mic jack).  The Heil mics designated for use 
with
Icom transceivers are usually of the electret typw and work quite well 
with

the K2.

Remember that Heil has a wide variety of mics, just saying that you are
using a Heil mic is not sufficient information, one must specify WHICH 
Heil
mics - they are not created equal.  I guess an anology is that you 
would not
refer to an automobile as a General Motors car - you must specify if 
it is a

Chevrolet, a Buick, a Cadillac, etc., and in many cases one must also
specify which variety of Chevrolet, Buick, etc.  Heil mics are much like
that.

So, yes choose the Icom mics if possible, but if you prefer those with 
the
HC4 or HC5 elements (those elemetns have low ouput), you should plan 
to add
a mic preamp.  As far as I know, no PC boards or kits are available 
for the

mic preamps.

73,
Don W3FPR


-Original Message-

Hi, sorry if this repeats previous information request, but I did
a lot of
searching and didn't find anything directly on point (even though
there were
several threads on preamps and Heils, etc.)


I downloaded the Microphone Pre-Amp for Heil  schematic on the Elecraft
website.

My questions are:
1.  Does anybody make a PCB for this  project?  I imagine all
these parts are
available from Radio Shack  or Mouser?

2.  Does the preamp make the microphones  work really well, or is it 
just

something that "gets you  by?"

3.  As far as Heil microphone modules go,  if I build the preamp,
and want to
buy the Classic, can I use any module, like  the Pro, HC-5, HC-4,
etc., or
should I get the ICOM only module, which I believe  is an
electret module.  I am
a bit confused about all this.  I asked  Elecraft and they said I
should get
the electret module.  Bob Heil said the  Classic was not a good
choice for the
K2 and he suggested his iCM mic for  ICOM.  Doesn't the iCM mic
have the same
electret element  that the Classic with the  IC element has?  If
all I needed
was  an electret element, do I need the preamp at all, or does it
make the
electret  work even better?

4.  Once I build the preamp, is it  something that I can tuck into the
microphone itself (like a Heil Classic) or  does it go inside the
K2 or do I need to
put it into it's own little  enclosure.

Thanks for your help.  I am a new ham, and  am trying to sort through 
all

this stuff.
Christ Kacoyannakis
K4CMK



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RE: [Elecraft] Z6, grounded can?

2007-02-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dave,

Congratulations on your progress.

Don't worry about the empty holes - all holes are not filled, many are via
holes to get a signal (or ground) from the top of the board to the bottom.
If you need to check anything else of that nature, look at the parts
placement diagram near the end of the manual, you will find it quite
helpful.  It does not show the holes, just the component placements.

73,
Don W3FPR

> -Original Message-
>
> I'm installing T6 (yes there is a god, this is the last of the toroids
> for a little bit) and noticed a hole next to Z6.  I did not see anything
> in the text, but the holes on either side of the can are in the ground
> plane so I was not sure.
> --
>
> David Wilburn
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT2 CALS Problem

2007-02-16 Thread Jim Miller
that was probably it. i went through the bands after i posted and made sure 
all the bands selected ant1.

seems to be working fine for now.

73

jim ab3cv

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Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT2 CALS Problem


I would bet that the other antenna input is selected on 15 meters 

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[Elecraft] K2 100W kits for sale

2007-02-16 Thread Russell Boutell

Hello,

Well, after years of owning my own business and having little time for 
operating and less for building, I'm going to part with my K2 kits as a 
package deal (don't want to split package) and save someone a couple hundred 
bucks. All kits are still in original packages with nothing soldered or 
assembled. I'm selling for $1500 (UPS ground shipping included) the 
following:


K2:  HF XCVR S/N 3271 mcu ver 2.03d, ioc ver 1.07
KSB2:  SSB Option,  fw ver 1.07
KNB2: Noise Blanker
PLL temp control mod kit

KPA100: 100W Amp, fw ver 1.06
KAT100-1: 150W ATU, fw ver 1.03
KDSP2: Advanced DSP Filter
ETS15: 1.5" Tilt Stand (shorter stand for stacking K2 and KAT100-1)
MH2: Handmike that elecraft offered from Heil
K7NUU dust cover: had it custom made to cover both K2 and Kat1100-1. It does 
have my callsign embroidered, but with a little engineering...


Well there you have it. I'll ship right away with a money order or cashier's 
check. Please email if you have any questions.


Thanks,
Russ   W9EL

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[Elecraft] Z6, grounded can?

2007-02-16 Thread David Wilburn
I'm installing T6 (yes there is a god, this is the last of the toroids 
for a little bit) and noticed a hole next to Z6.  I did not see anything 
in the text, but the holes on either side of the can are in the ground 
plane so I was not sure.

--

David Wilburn
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[Elecraft] KAT2 CALS Problem

2007-02-16 Thread Jim Miller
I'm nearing the end of my K2/KAT2 checkout and I'm to the point of measuring 
the SWR on each band. All the bands show a 1.0 -1 indication except 15M 
which displays a HI CUR message and a 9.9 -1 indication.

I upped the CAL CUR level to 3A and I still get this indication.

Any ideas on where to start looking?

73

jim ab3cv 

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 lost sidetone?

2007-02-16 Thread Jeff Kinzli

Don, you are exactly correct, thanks again...

-J

On 2/16/07, Don Wilhelm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Jeff,

Your sidetone source likely was switched for some reason or other - maybe by
an 'extra' finger press while in the menu

Go back into the menu and dial up ST L, press EDIT to move the cursor over
to the right side and then tap DISPLAY to toggle the sidetone source.  When
you hear the sidetone, stop and exit from the menu.

In some rare instances, it may take a few 'toggles' to get things to switch
properly, so try it several times.  If you have a post SN 3000 K2 (or have
put the sidetone source change on an older K2 because you added the KPA100
or KIO2) your sidetone source should be 'U8 - 4' - you will see the source
displayed briefly each time it is toggled.

73,
Don W3FPR



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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Kinzli
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 5:06 PM
> To: Elecraft Mail Posting
> Subject: [Elecraft] K2 lost sidetone?
>
>
> Oh man, what timing...2 hours before the start of the contest, and I
> went in and did CAL tPA to set the ambient temp of the KPA100, and
> when I came out of the menus, I had no sidetone anymore!
>
> Going through all the menus, all the side tone settings look correct.
> The rig hears and transmits fine, but the sidetone is silent.
>
> I thought I might need to reset back to defaults, but I think that
> resets all the filters and BFO, etc., right? If that's the case, I've
> gotta go through realignment again? I'll miss the beginning of the
> contest :( I'm going to miss it anyhow though at this point.
>
> Any ideas short of disassembling and resetting?
>
> Thanks,
> -J
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RE: [Elecraft] K2 lost sidetone?

2007-02-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jeff,

Your sidetone source likely was switched for some reason or other - maybe by
an 'extra' finger press while in the menu

Go back into the menu and dial up ST L, press EDIT to move the cursor over
to the right side and then tap DISPLAY to toggle the sidetone source.  When
you hear the sidetone, stop and exit from the menu.

In some rare instances, it may take a few 'toggles' to get things to switch
properly, so try it several times.  If you have a post SN 3000 K2 (or have
put the sidetone source change on an older K2 because you added the KPA100
or KIO2) your sidetone source should be 'U8 - 4' - you will see the source
displayed briefly each time it is toggled.

73,
Don W3FPR



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Kinzli
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 5:06 PM
> To: Elecraft Mail Posting
> Subject: [Elecraft] K2 lost sidetone?
>
>
> Oh man, what timing...2 hours before the start of the contest, and I
> went in and did CAL tPA to set the ambient temp of the KPA100, and
> when I came out of the menus, I had no sidetone anymore!
>
> Going through all the menus, all the side tone settings look correct.
> The rig hears and transmits fine, but the sidetone is silent.
>
> I thought I might need to reset back to defaults, but I think that
> resets all the filters and BFO, etc., right? If that's the case, I've
> gotta go through realignment again? I'll miss the beginning of the
> contest :( I'm going to miss it anyhow though at this point.
>
> Any ideas short of disassembling and resetting?
>
> Thanks,
> -J
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RE: [Elecraft] n-gen, dl1

2007-02-16 Thread Gregg R. Lengling
Good going and you picked the right time.  They just got the parts back in
stock for some kits.  I just got a tracking email on 2 test kits I've got
coming.



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[Elecraft] Re: K2 lost sidetone? (FIXED)

2007-02-16 Thread Jeff Kinzli

In my stressing, I didn't think to check the archives...found the answer here:

http://www.ac6rm.net/mailarchive/html/elecraft-list/2006-08/msg00751.html

Problem solved. Pfew!

Cyu in the contest ;)

-J

On 2/16/07, Jeff Kinzli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Oh man, what timing...2 hours before the start of the contest, and I
went in and did CAL tPA to set the ambient temp of the KPA100, and
when I came out of the menus, I had no sidetone anymore!

Going through all the menus, all the side tone settings look correct.
The rig hears and transmits fine, but the sidetone is silent.

I thought I might need to reset back to defaults, but I think that
resets all the filters and BFO, etc., right? If that's the case, I've
gotta go through realignment again? I'll miss the beginning of the
contest :( I'm going to miss it anyhow though at this point.

Any ideas short of disassembling and resetting?

Thanks,
-J


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[Elecraft] n-gen, dl1

2007-02-16 Thread Dennis Vavra
Hey Elecrafters,
Ok now, the check is in mail!  Iv'e ordered the N-GEN and DL1.
I am sure these tools will be of great value for me in future
endevours. I may get a couple more items before I order the
K1 kit. As a preliminary, I will obtain a less comprehensive
(and expensive) kit from another company. While surfing the web
I was saw a few I might try. When I am satisified that  my level
of competence is adequate to the task, I shall endevour to
put together the K1. I AM BACK IN THE GAME!!
Dennis Vavra  AD5LY 
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[Elecraft] K2 lost sidetone?

2007-02-16 Thread Jeff Kinzli

Oh man, what timing...2 hours before the start of the contest, and I
went in and did CAL tPA to set the ambient temp of the KPA100, and
when I came out of the menus, I had no sidetone anymore!

Going through all the menus, all the side tone settings look correct.
The rig hears and transmits fine, but the sidetone is silent.

I thought I might need to reset back to defaults, but I think that
resets all the filters and BFO, etc., right? If that's the case, I've
gotta go through realignment again? I'll miss the beginning of the
contest :( I'm going to miss it anyhow though at this point.

Any ideas short of disassembling and resetting?

Thanks,
-J
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RE: [Elecraft] A new perspective

2007-02-16 Thread Darwin, Keith
I think (not sure here) the techniques and needed skills are the same
with the K2 or K1.  The difference is just scale.  The K2 is just more
of the same.  Of course, more means there is more chance to do something
wrong, but I don't think the K1 is any easier (or tougher) to build,
just shorter.

I've not built a K1, only a K2 plus a few accessories.  I found I did a
better job on the K2 than the KPA100 simply because I was scared to
death by the K2 so I worked slowly, READ and FOLLOWED all the
instructions to a "T" and made only 1 mistake (one part in the wrong
place).  With the KPA100 I was a bit more confident and made more
mistakes.  Same with the AF mini-module.  It is small and should have
been a perfect build but lack of attention to detail caused me to put
one part in the wrong place.

You can always hire someone to build it for you.  There is no shame in
that, some of us like to build, some don't.  Either way, we can all
enjoy a great radio.

- Keith N1AS -
- K2 5411.ssb.100 -

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Vavra

What is the level of difficulty in contructing the K1 compared to the
K2?
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA100 IMD Distortion Figures

2007-02-16 Thread Wyn Hughes
Thanks, Larry, those figures are in themselves impressive. Of course, a lot
depends on the mesurement equipment and conditions. Worth adding perhaps to
the Elecraft resource list.. My L-4's -33db compared to single tone (-39db
cf. pep), would in that case be the limiting factor. Maybe a good excuse for
a new rig.

73
Wyn, VR2AX
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To: "Wyn Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA100 IMD Distortion Figures


> Take a look at the tests run by Jack, K8ZOA, using his Z90 Panadapter
> kit at cliftonlaboratories.com Click on the IMD Measurements link. He
> shows the test methodology, and results from several rigs, including his
> K2/100.
>
> 73,
> Larry N8LP
>
>
>
> Wyn Hughes wrote:
> > Hello Group,
> >
> > Has anyone measured, or have any information, regarding the 3rd/5th
order IMD performance of the barebones KPA100, based on a two-tone test?
> >
> > I have some figures for the base K2, courtesy of the ARRL review. I
might even have seen figures for the K2/100, but can't seem to locate them
at present. If anyone can also supply these figures, I would be grateful.
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA100 IMD Distortion Figures

2007-02-16 Thread Larry Phipps
Take a look at the tests run by Jack, K8ZOA, using his Z90 Panadapter 
kit at cliftonlaboratories.com Click on the IMD Measurements link. He 
shows the test methodology, and results from several rigs, including his 
K2/100.


73,
Larry N8LP



Wyn Hughes wrote:

Hello Group,

Has anyone measured, or have any information, regarding the 3rd/5th order IMD 
performance of the barebones KPA100, based on a two-tone test?

I have some figures for the base K2, courtesy of the ARRL review. I might even 
have seen figures for the K2/100, but can't seem to locate them at present. If 
anyone can also supply these figures, I would be grateful.


73
Wyn, V2AX

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[Elecraft] KPA100 IMD Distortion Figures

2007-02-16 Thread Wyn Hughes
Hello Group,

Has anyone measured, or have any information, regarding the 3rd/5th order IMD 
performance of the barebones KPA100, based on a two-tone test?

I have some figures for the base K2, courtesy of the ARRL review. I might even 
have seen figures for the K2/100, but can't seem to locate them at present. If 
anyone can also supply these figures, I would be grateful.


73
Wyn, V2AX

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