Re: Re: [Elecraft] K3 CE
Don't forget that, aside from CE marking, you are deemed to be techniclly competent as an Advanced licence holder and can therefore build your own kit and operate it within the terms of your licence. You are right in saying that you can import your own kit for your own use and if you sell it, it is not as a business for general sale of lots of these. David G3UNA From: Julian G4ILO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/11/14 Wed PM 04:31:17 GMT To: elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: Re: [Elecraft] K3 CE On Nov 14, 2007 3:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is acceptable for an importer to certify products as long as he does so within the legal requirments. He can then quite legally fix the appropriate CE label and provide a Certificate of Compliance. I could not comment as to whether W S follow the requirments. Anyone has the right to view the Certificate of Compliance for any product within the EC. The importer then becomes the responsible vendor. But if I'm importing it to use, not to sell, does this matter? The body responsible for CE marking here is Trading Standards. They are unlikely to even find out about it since I am not a trader. Toby makes a valid point as concerns resale, but being pragmatic, we don't live in a bureaucratic police state where officials go through the small ads checking on what people are selling, so whether it's legal or not, it's certainly going to be under the radar. I think the only issue that may concern Elecraft is if it is likely that imports are going to be stopped at customs and returned at their expense. If it's OK for goods to be certified at this end then it obviously isn't illegal to import uncertified goods therefore customs isn't going to be bothered. -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] OT:QEX High performance homebrew transceiver design.
Hi Elecrafters There is a nice homebrew transceiver project in this months QEX. This article can also be downloaded from the QEX web page as it is the feature preview article. Whats so impressive about this design is the impressive size and the great performance numbers which any transceiver today would have trouble equaling. Many would be interested in the design philosophy and technical outcomes. Craig VK3HE Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: Re: [Elecraft] K3 CE
You are not a vendor, merely a kit builder, you are not in business. However, it's an interesting question. David G3UNA From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/11/14 Wed PM 04:08:41 GMT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Julian G4ILO [EMAIL PROTECTED], elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: Re: [Elecraft] K3 CE Hallo, The importer then becomes the responsible vendor. Which might be interesting if one ever decided to sell her/his K3, which was imported as a Kit and built in Europe? I wonder... vy 73 de toby - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: Re: [Elecraft] K3 CE
On Nov 15, 2007 8:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't forget that, aside from CE marking, you are deemed to be techniclly competent as an Advanced licence holder and can therefore build your own kit and operate it within the terms of your licence. You are right in saying that you can import your own kit for your own use and if you sell it, it is not as a business for general sale of lots of these. Coincidentally the December RadCom EMC column, page 43, has a discussion that is relevant to this. It explains that the regulations apply to goods that are placed on the market or taken into service. New goods sold commercially are placed on the market but (the article states) it is clear from examples like very noisy (and CE marked!) Chinese made switch mode wall warts sold on eBay that the local Trading Standards are doing nothing about enforcement (and from personal knowledge they have neither the manpower nor the technical competence to do so.) Second hand goods sold on eBay or at a flea market are not placed on the market. However, the purchaser is taking it into service and therefore becomes responsible for its EMC compliance. Although, as you say, we as radio hams should be competent to decide whether our equipment meets the standards or not, the average person buying a wall wart battery charger or whatever certainly isn't. Therefore this whole CE marking busines seems to me to be a total waste of time, as it is either unenforced or unenforceable. -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 CE
Therefore this whole CE marking busines seems to me to be a total waste of time, as it is either unenforced or unenforceable. Without wanting to pass judgement on the sense of CE Markings or lack thereof, one must not forget, that (at least in DL) if you want to use a new rig in a new car, then it *must* have a CE Marking. This according the DARC (the German version of the RSGB). vy 73 de toby PS: For the German speakers out there... Source: http://www.darc.de/ - Funkgeräteeinbau in Kraftfahrzeuge wesentlich erleichtert Nach einer Mitteilung des Kraftfahrtbundesamtes in Flensburg wurde durch eine Bekanntmachung im Verkehrsblatt die Richtlinie 2004/104/EG im Bundesgebiet in Kraft gesetzt. Diese Richtlinie ersetzt die 95/54/EG. Das bedeutet, dass alle neuen Funkgeräte in Kraftfahrzeuge eingebaut werden dürfen, die ein CE-Zeichen oder ein E-Zeichen tragen! Eine E-Zulassung der Transceiver ist damit nicht mehr erforderlich. Die CE-Kennzeichnung reicht aus, wenn eine Bescheinigung beiliegt, dass das Funkgerät nicht im Zusammenhang mit der Störfestigkeit (sicherheitsrelevante Funktionen) steht. Als neue Funkgeräte sind die zu bezeichnen, die ab dem 11. Januar 2005 in Verkehr gebracht wurden. Insbesondere betroffen sind hiervon PKW und LKW mit Erstzulassungsdatum ab dem 1. Oktober 2002 sowie Krafträder und Trikes mit Erstzulassungsdatum ab dem 17. Juni 2003. So genannte Altgeräte (vor dem 11.1.2005) werden von der Richtlinie 2004/104/EG nicht mehr erfasst und müssen lediglich die Vorschriften zum Zeitpunkt ihres erstmaligen Inverkehrbringens erfüllen. Einer Weiterverwendung durch wieder Einbau, auch in neuen Kraftfahrzeugen, steht nichts im Wege. - ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 into VK
Hi Group, Well, at last...my K3/10 has arrived in VK...delivery now Monday next week according to UPS ( I'm quite a distance from Sydney, where the K3 will be spending the Weekend ). Many thanks to the overworked Lisa, who is doing a fantastic job to satisfy a lot of very keen expectant K3 Owners ! So, sometime next week, a K3 will burst to life in VK Land. 73 Glenn VK4TZL/VK4BG ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: Re: [Elecraft] K3 CE
In the past the authorities were concerned with amateurs causing interference to domestic radio/television reception and all other government services. Now it is the amateur that has the problem. We now have to contend with radio interference to our hobby from:- TV's (LCD Plasma), Cable TV, PLT, HomePlug, Switch Mode PSU's either freestanding (wall warts) or in-built(Computer), electronic controls in anything from a central heating boiler to a sewing machine . et .al. It's a bit ironic that, as rigs such as the K3 are now being sold with a superb receive performance that many amateurs are unable to use due to increasing radio spectrum pollution. Many items sold into the domestic market would appear to be either non - compliant, or have a test standard applied that is most advantageous to their products. A lot of items are able to cause HF interference because, the only radiated emissions testing required is carried out above 30MHz. Below 30MHz only the conducted interference on the supply lead is tested. In the UK the enforcing agency is the Trading Standards. They are lacking in funding, manpower and technical knowledge to deal with anything other than life threatening issues (i.e. Lead paint on toys). As far as the EMC part of CE goes, it promised a lot, but has delivered very little Stewart G3RXQ Member RSGB EMC Committee On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:51:20 +, Julian G4ILO wrote: On Nov 15, 2007 8:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't forget that, aside from CE marking, you are deemed to be techniclly competent as an Advanced licence holder and can therefore build your own kit and operate it within the terms of your licence. You are right in saying that you can import your own kit for your own use and if you sell it, it is not as a business for general sale of lots of these. Coincidentally the December RadCom EMC column, page 43, has a discussion that is relevant to this. It explains that the regulations apply to goods that are placed on the market or taken into service. New goods sold commercially are placed on the market but (the article states) it is clear from examples like very noisy (and CE marked!) Chinese made switch mode wall warts sold on eBay that the local Trading Standards are doing nothing about enforcement (and from personal knowledge they have neither the manpower nor the technical competence to do so.) Second hand goods sold on eBay or at a flea market are not placed on the market. However, the purchaser is taking it into service and therefore becomes responsible for its EMC compliance. Although, as you say, we as radio hams should be competent to decide whether our equipment meets the standards or not, the average person buying a wall wart battery charger or whatever certainly isn't. Therefore this whole CE marking busines seems to me to be a total waste of time, as it is either unenforced or unenforceable. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: Re: [Elecraft] K3 CE
This is, unfortunately, so true. It is getting to the stage when I wonder how much longer it is possible for someone in my situation to operate a stealth station in a crowded urban housing estate. It is not the limited size of my antennas that is the problem but the interference I have to contend with. I can turn off my electrics and it makes little difference to the noise level, which is often S3-S5 on the K3's rather stingy S meter. As for the situation in Germany, well if that's the law and people will actually check up on it then you have to go along with it. But only a politician could bring about a situation where it is an offense to use equipment that doesn't have a worthless sticker on it. And CE certification is worthless unless it guarantees that the equipment meets a worthwhile standard. I think the only solution that would solve the interference problem would involve type approval of equipment by independent tester. Clearly you can't rely on all manufacturers to self-certify with any degree of honesty. And given the lack of enforcement in the UK there is no reason for anyone to do more than pay lip service to the regulations. No doubt you can buy rolls of self adhesive CE stickers from some Chinese vendor on eBay... But despite the benefits to us hams of type approval, I'm not sure I'd like the extra costs and restricted range of products such a measure would result in. I can remember just how expensive modems were in the 80s when they had to be type approved by the monopoly telecoms provider. -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf On Nov 15, 2007 10:16 AM, Stewart Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the past the authorities were concerned with amateurs causing interference to domestic radio/television reception and all other government services. Now it is the amateur that has the problem. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft] K3 into VK
Hi Glenn, Seeing as you are so far from Sydney, I could pop down and pick it up for you I’ll even give it a try out and will return it (maybe) after CQWW next weekend. Seriously though, well done, I would imagine this might be the first one in the Lucky Country !!! Regards David, VK2NU Hi Group, Well, at last...my K3/10 has arrived in VK...delivery now Monday next week according to UPS ( I'm quite a distance from Sydney, where the K3 will be spending the Weekend ). Many thanks to the overworked Lisa, who is doing a fantastic job to satisfy a lot of very keen expectant K3 Owners ! So, sometime next week, a K3 will burst to life in VK Land. 73 Glenn VK4TZL/VK4BG No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.32/1131 - Release Date: 14/11/2007 4:54 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: Re: [Elecraft] K3 CE
As for the situation in Germany, well if that's the law and people will actually check up on it then you have to go along with it. Actually what I sent to the reflector was about the German implementation of a European Union regulation, i.e. it is also the law in the France, Italy, Spain, Poland, Sweden, Malta, Greece, the U.K. etc. To see more about 2004/104/EG you could take a look at: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:32004L0104:EN:NOT Commission Directive 2004/104/EC of 14 October 2004 adapting to technical progress Council Directive 72/245/EEC relating to the radio interference (electromagnetic compatibility) of vehicles and amending Directive 70/156/EEC on the approximation of the laws of the Member States relating to the type-approval of motor vehicles and their trailersText with EEA relevance If the above makes sense or not: This is one reason why it is important that at least the factory built K3s have a CE Marking. vy 73 de toby ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 CE
Julian G4ILO wrote: Don't forget that, aside from CE marking, you are deemed to be techniclly competent as an Advanced licence holder and can therefore build your own kit and operate it within the terms of your licence. You are right in saying that you can import your own kit for your own use and if you sell it, it is not as a business for general sale of lots of these. Coincidentally the December RadCom EMC column, page 43, has a discussion that is relevant to this. It explains that the regulations apply to goods that are placed on the market or taken into service. New goods sold commercially are placed on the market but (the article states) it is clear from examples like very noisy (and CE marked!) Chinese made switch mode wall warts sold on eBay that the local Trading Standards are doing nothing about enforcement (and from personal knowledge they have neither the manpower nor the technical competence to do so.) Second hand goods sold on eBay or at a flea market are not placed on the market. However, the purchaser is taking it into service and therefore becomes responsible for its EMC compliance. Although, as you say, we as radio hams should be competent to decide whether our equipment meets the standards or not, the average person buying a wall wart battery charger or whatever certainly isn't. Therefore this whole CE marking busines seems to me to be a total waste of time, as it is either unenforced or unenforceable. Sorry, I don't agree. Overall, I think the European EMC regulations have been a success - so much so that we take them for granted. It's always the leakage around the system that gets the publicity, and it only takes one small thing like an unfiltered wall wart to cause problems for us. The vast majority of electronic and electrical appliances coming into European homes are 'mainstream' products from European companies, or from international companies with substantial business operations in Europe. Regardless of where they were actually manufactured, these products do comply with all the relevant product standards. European radio amateurs have definitely benefited from this. The RFI mailing list has frequent horror stories from the USA that just don't happen over here any more. As licensed amateurs we are personally responsible for EMC compliance, the only difference being that we don't have to provide formal demonstrations or documentation. For kits and ready-made amateur radio equipment imported from outside Europe, practical experience is that personal importers are never asked to demonstrate compliance. I can certainly confirm that as an exporter of kits and boards to the rest of Europe, the USA and around the world - in over a thousand transactions, never a single challenge. According to Wayne's posting a couple of weeks ago, Elecraft has already done the testing to demonstrate compliance with the relevant European standards - which the K3 passed easily, of course. As soon as all the necessary documentation has been assembled, they will immediately become legally entitled to attach a CE sticker (they don't have to file it with anyone else). But, quite rightly, that isn't Elecraft's main priority just now. For K3s being imported into Europe at present, that leaves only the most trivial technicality: a product that does in fact meet all the relevant European standards, but doesn't have a CE marking to say so. Worrying about such little things is a symptom of severe K3 deprivation! Fortunately, there is also a complete cure for this condition :-) As soon as the documentation does comes into existence, the owners of unmarked K3s will become legally entitled to attach a CE sticker themselves. They don't need any documentation to do this; it is sufficient to know that valid documents exist. They'll be in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet, in a cellar on a planet called Aptos. -- 73 from Ian GM3SEK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: Re: [Elecraft] K3 CE
On Nov 15, 2007 11:45 AM, Ian White GM3SEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As soon as the documentation does comes into existence, the owners of unmarked K3s will become legally entitled to attach a CE sticker themselves. They don't need any documentation to do this; it is sufficient to know that valid documents exist. They'll be in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet, in a cellar on a planet called Aptos. Couldn't we just self-certify it? On Nov 15, 2007 12:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the above makes sense or not: This is one reason why it is important that at least the factory built K3s have a CE Marking. OK, Toby, I think we'll never agree on the importance of abiding by laws that are not enforced. Here, the police can't even be bothered to do anything about drunken and rowdy behaviour or crazy driving by young people in the town centre at weekends. The thought of them bothering to check if a radio has a CE sticker is simply unimaginable. -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: Re: [Elecraft] K3 CE
In the case of vehicles it will be e marking (lower case). David G3UNA From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/11/15 Thu AM 09:24:45 GMT To: elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 CE Therefore this whole CE marking busines seems to me to be a total waste of time, as it is either unenforced or unenforceable. Without wanting to pass judgement on the sense of CE Markings or lack thereof, one must not forget, that (at least in DL) if you want to use a new rig in a new car, then it *must* have a CE Marking. This according the DARC (the German version of the RSGB). vy 73 de toby PS: For the German speakers out there... Source: http://www.darc.de/ - Funkgeräteeinbau in Kraftfahrzeuge wesentlich erleichtert Nach einer Mitteilung des Kraftfahrtbundesamtes in Flensburg wurde durch eine Bekanntmachung im Verkehrsblatt die Richtlinie 2004/104/EG im Bundesgebiet in Kraft gesetzt. Diese Richtlinie ersetzt die 95/54/EG. Das bedeutet, dass alle neuen Funkgeräte in Kraftfahrzeuge eingebaut werden dürfen, die ein CE-Zeichen oder ein E-Zeichen tragen! Eine E-Zulassung der Transceiver ist damit nicht mehr erforderlich. Die CE-Kennzeichnung reicht aus, wenn eine Bescheinigung beiliegt, dass das Funkgerät nicht im Zusammenhang mit der Störfestigkeit (sicherheitsrelevante Funktionen) steht. Als neue Funkgeräte sind die zu bezeichnen, die ab dem 11. Januar 2005 in Verkehr gebracht wurden. Insbesondere betroffen sind hiervon PKW und LKW mit Erstzulassungsdatum ab dem 1. Oktober 2002 sowie Krafträder und Trikes mit Erstzulassungsdatum ab dem 17. Juni 2003. So genannte Altgeräte (vor dem 11.1.2005) werden von der Richtlinie 2004/104/EG nicht mehr erfasst und müssen lediglich die Vorschriften zum Zeitpunkt ihres erstmaligen Inverkehrbringens erfüllen. Einer Weiterverwendung durch wieder Einbau, auch in neuen Kraftfahrzeugen, steht nichts im Wege. - ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 CE
Julian G4ILO wrote: As soon as the documentation does comes into existence, the owners of unmarked K3s will become legally entitled to attach a CE sticker themselves. They don't need any documentation to do this; it is sufficient to know that valid documents exist. They'll be in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet, in a cellar on a planet called Aptos. Couldn't we just self-certify it? Not just out of thin air. Somebody, somewhere has to do the work. -- 73 from Ian GM3SEK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 CE - needs e marking too for mobile use
Toby DJ7MGQ wrote Without wanting to pass judgement on the sense of CE Markings or lack thereof, one must not forget, that (at least in DL) if you want to use a new rig in a new car, then it *must* have a CE Marking. In the EU anything added to a car, including radio equipment, must also carry an e mark in addition to a CE mark. More work for Eric and Wayne! 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 kit now shipped via UPS, ordered 30 April 2007 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 CE - needs e marking too for mobile use
On Nov 15, 2007 2:15 PM, Dave G4AON [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the EU anything added to a car, including radio equipment, must also carry an e mark in addition to a CE mark. More work for Eric and Wayne! Wouldn't that apply only if it is fitted to the vehicle, not perched on the seat and operated while the vehicle is parked? -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Need some help on a K1 problem.
Any new ideas out there? Anybody else have this same or similar problem? Don't overlook the possibility that a socketed microprocessor chip got one of its legs splayed out and isn't actually in the socket. Scrutinizing solder joints won't help in that scenario, and it's easy to overlook. It happened to me once or twice before. --Andrew ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Need some help on a K1 problem.
Len, Are you certain it is a relay problem? Does your 4 band board work on 15/17 meters without manually setting any relays? If it is a relay problem, the reset state of the relays is with the 15 meter band selected and you should be able to align and operate it on that band. Can you turn the attenuator on and off with this 4 band board installed? If so, the IOC chip is working and the resonator is good. If you do have a relay problem, make continuity checks from the U1 pins to pin 8 of each relay (check the schematic to determine the corresponding pins of U1), and check continuity from P2 pin 3 to each of the relays Pin 1. When checking to the U1 pins, plug the firmware chip in and measure from the actual lead of the chip rather than the socket - that will reveal any socket problems. Check the resistance of each relay coil to see if you might have one with an open coil. Too much solder can mask a bad solder connection. If your solder fillets have a convex shape to them, you have too much solder applied - wick the excess away. A good solder joint will have a small fillet with a concave appearance where the solder flows out to a nearly invisible edge on both the solder pad and the component lead. You may not believe how many problems I have fixed simply by removing the excess solder and reflowing solder in the process. At least 40% of the problems builders have are soldering related and at least 40% are toroid lead problems, another 18% are incorrect component placement while the remaining 2% can be attributed to bad parts (usually damaged by the builder). 73, Don W3FPR Len [K4IWL] wrote: I'm hoping that there are still some K1 aficionados out there. I ordered my K1 with the 4-band-filter board. I was not able to get the 4-band-filter to work so I ordered the 2-band-filter (since it's a simpler board) so I could determine if it's a problem with the K1 main board or the filter board. To make a long story short, the K1 with the 2-band-filter works perfectly (40/20M) and the relay switching works. I then finished the KAT and it works with the 2BFB just fine. But here's the problem, I am still debugging the 4-band-filter inbetween using the K1 with the 2BFB. When I plug in the 4BFB there is no relay activity at all when I switch bands. The relays stay in the reset position. I have run out of ideas. Here is what I've done: Replaced the 4MHz resonator. Replaced the IOC with a spare that I have. So far nothing works. I have visually inspected every solder joint. I have reflowed the solder on all the IOC and resonator pads. I have checked continuity between the IOC pins and the relays and they are all solid. I have checked the common connection to all the relays for shorts and opens. I have checked continuity through RFC1. There are no shorts that I have detected or seen on the board (solder splashes, globs, etc.) although I'm not ruling that out yet. Nothing I've done fixes it. Any new ideas out there? Anybody else have this same or similar problem? The relay switching has nothing to do with the RF paths, these appear OK when I manually apply 1.5V to selected relays for the band configuration. RF is getting through as it should on each of the 4 bands. Oh .. yeh ... I am not getting any error codes on the display either. And when I switch the bands with the front panel switch, the display changes but no relays activate. 72, LEN, K4IWL www.qrz.com/k4iwl K2 #848, K1 #1221, Wilderness Radio Sierra (another Wayne rig), Every RockMite imaginable, and a 15M HiMite. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 CE - needs e marking too for mobile use
Julian, G4ILO, wrote: Wouldn't that apply only if it is fitted to the vehicle, not perched on the seat and operated while the vehicle is parked? Yes, I am fairly certain that is the case. For a flavour of the legislation, see: http://www.hants.gov.uk/regulatory/tradingstandards/auto.html Phew... 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 kit now shipped via UPS, ordered 30 April 2007 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 CE - needs e marking too for mobile use
In the EU anything added to a car, including radio equipment, must also carry an e mark in addition to a CE mark. According to 2004/104/EG, not anymore. A CE Marking plus the correct documentation from the car manufacturer is all that is needed now. vy 73 de toby ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 CE - needs e marking too for mobile use
Yes, only if the equipment is a permanent part of the vehicle, like the radio/stereo/etc does it need the e mark. David G3UNA From: Dave G4AON [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/11/15 Thu PM 02:59:07 GMT To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 CE - needs e marking too for mobile use Julian, G4ILO, wrote: Wouldn't that apply only if it is fitted to the vehicle, not perched on the seat and operated while the vehicle is parked? Yes, I am fairly certain that is the case. For a flavour of the legislation, see: http://www.hants.gov.uk/regulatory/tradingstandards/auto.html Phew... 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 kit now shipped via UPS, ordered 30 April 2007 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 CE - needs e marking too for mobile use
On Nov 15, 2007 2:59 PM, Dave G4AON [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I am fairly certain that is the case. For a flavour of the legislation, see: http://www.hants.gov.uk/regulatory/tradingstandards/auto.html This is interesting: Which items do not need to be e-marked? [snip] * Equipment installed in their own vehicle by persons who are able to demonstrate competence (for example radio amateurs). However, equipment designed by a commercial producer for use by radio amateurs is not exempt. So I could install my home built radio in my car, and presumably my built-from-a-kit K2 or 3, but if you buy it ready made it needs to be marked. Heck, would our lives really be worse if we didn't have people whose jobs it is to come up with this stuff? -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] XG2 - Kit and Drake R7 and Orion II Comparison
Good morning. I finished building an XG2 last evening and used my Drake R7 and Orion II as the test beds for the XG2. Results: The R7 receives the 1 micro volt signals on all three bands better than the Orion II (less RX noise and clearer tone). I did not do the SN calculations scientifically, but to my ear the R7 was the better RX. The R7 will be 30 years old next spring and has not been aligned since the 80s. I look forward to receiving my K3 in late January 2008. Tom, N5GE http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] XG2 - Kit and Drake R7 and Orion II Comparison
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:52:17 -0600 CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Elecraft] XG2 - Kit and Drake R7 and Orion II Comparison Good morning. I finished building an XG2 last evening and used my Drake R7 and Orion II as the test beds for the XG2. Results: The R7 receives the 1 micro volt signals on all three bands better than the Orion II (less RX noise and clearer tone). I did not do the SN calculations scientifically, but to my ear the R7 was the better RX. The R7 will be 30 years old next spring and has not been aligned since the 80s. I look forward to receiving my K3 in late January 2008. Tom, N5GE Tom I did the same tests with a XG-2 and K2 #4913, a TS-850SAT and a Drake TR4. The TR4 beat 'em all. Still, I plan on ordering a K3 this spring. It'll be very interesting to see how the venerable TR4 (1969 production) fares against the best rig on the market. Ken 73's de Ken KG0WX - Kadiddlehopper #11808, Flying Pigs #-1055, Grid EM17ip _ Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Café. Stop by today. http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_OctWLtagline___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K1-4 02257
Hello All, I have K1-4 #02257 40 30 20 15 w/ all options but BAT and Stand. Extra 2 band 80 17 include with docs. I am looking for K2 kits. DSP KIO or what have you. Thanks, Bob W7WO K2 #4400 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] XG2 - Kit and Drake R7 and Orion II Comparison
Tom, Interesting! I've got the XG2 and a R-4C. I was told by Rob Sherwood (of Sherwood engineering) that at 1 micro-volt, the meter should be at S-3 and 20 over when set to 50 micro-volts. Since my rig was nowhere near that and I couldn't seem to make it any better when adjusting it, I packed it up and sent it to Rob to play with. It could also be that my XG2 has some sort of problem too! Guess I should have sent it along for testing! We'll see! Also, just wondering what kind of S-meter readings you were getting at the different XG2 settings from the two rigs. Regards, kurtt Kurt Pawlikowski, AKA WB9FMC The Pinrod Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] (773) 284-9500 http://pinrod.com Tom Childers, N5GE wrote: Good morning. I finished building an XG2 last evening and used my Drake R7 and Orion II as the test beds for the XG2. Results: The R7 receives the 1 micro volt signals on all three bands better than the Orion II (less RX noise and clearer tone). I did not do the SN calculations scientifically, but to my ear the R7 was the better RX. The R7 will be 30 years old next spring and has not been aligned since the 80s. I look forward to receiving my K3 in late January 2008. Tom, N5GE http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] XG2 - Kit and Drake R7 and Orion II Comparison
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:40:55 -0600, you wrote: I don't remember exactly, but it was like this: R7 S meter readings were all S9 at 50mv. With the preamp on they were all around 20db over s9. Orion II S meter readings were all around S9 at 50mv with the preamp off and 20 - 30db over S9 with it on. I've just finished the R7 MDS calculations: 80m: -121db 40m: -129db 20m: -129db Remember; the R7 hasn't had any maintenance alignment since the 80s, so I thought the old geezer did pretty well :o) It's not realistic to do MDS calculations on the Orion II rig, because the AGC off setting does not really turn the AGC off. It just sets the decay rate at 1000db per second, which prevents getting good RMS readings from the speaker or headphone connections. I found this out while trying to peak my XV144 RX on random noise with the N-GEN using the Orion II. I finally had to connect the XV144 to an FT1000MP MK V to do the adjustment. Tom, Interesting! I've got the XG2 and a R-4C. I was told by Rob Sherwood (of Sherwood engineering) that at 1 micro-volt, the meter should be at S-3 and 20 over when set to 50 micro-volts. Since my rig was nowhere near that and I couldn't seem to make it any better when adjusting it, I packed it up and sent it to Rob to play with. It could also be that my XG2 has some sort of problem too! Guess I should have sent it along for testing! We'll see! Also, just wondering what kind of S-meter readings you were getting at the different XG2 settings from the two rigs. Regards, kurtt Kurt Pawlikowski, AKA WB9FMC The Pinrod Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] (773) 284-9500 http://pinrod.com Tom Childers, N5GE wrote: Good morning. I finished building an XG2 last evening and used my Drake R7 and Orion II as the test beds for the XG2. Results: The R7 receives the 1 micro volt signals on all three bands better than the Orion II (less RX noise and clearer tone). I did not do the SN calculations scientifically, but to my ear the R7 was the better RX. The R7 will be 30 years old next spring and has not been aligned since the 80s. I look forward to receiving my K3 in late January 2008. Tom, N5GE http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com Tom, N5GE http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 s/n 4276 Output Power Instability
K2 s/n 4276 Firmware Revision(s): 2.04P 1.09 After having a previous issue with the VCO alignment (p. 61), construction went forward without a hitch. At this point, I figured that any gremlins had been banished. Not so. Another pesky gremlin has reared it's ugly head. During transmitter alignment, the initial 40 meter alignment went down in accordance with the manual's expectations. Receiver pre-alignment was straight forward. Alignment of 20 and 30 meter transmit went fine, then from that point on, it all went downhill and the current issue began. Regardless of which band or power setting, on entering TUNE, the power out readings rapidly vary across the entire scale. These rapidly changing readings are also reflected on my Diamond SK-600 power/SWR meter as well as the readigs on the current meter of the power supply. After a brief bit of time, the power out will sometimes stop fluctuating and settle down to the requested power setting. Might this be a problem with U-6, on the control board? I would appreciate any insight of the possible cause of this issue and suggestions of any possible sollutions. 73's William Smith KC4WVL ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 s/n 4276 Output Power Instability
William, You said 40, 30 and 20 worked once, but not now - that says any problem is in an area shared by all bands. The first thing to do would be to check the coax cables, any adapters and the dummy load for a bad connection. I prefer to reduce any extra things in the setup because they too can be a source of trouble (and they are often overlooked). Connect the K2 using a short piece of known good coax to a known good dummy load and try again. If you continue to have problems, go back to 40 meters (which once worked) and use the Transmit Signal Tracing steps in the back of the manual to determine the failing stage. If you have not already constructed the RF Probe from the supplied parts, now is a good time to do that. We can help further if we know more about the failing stage or stages - right now, all we can say is that something is wrong somewhere - either inside or outside the K2. I would not suspect U6 at this point - if you have a problem with the power control only, take a critical look at the Keying waveshape components mounted on the back of the Control Board (yes, they are part of the power control loop). 73, Don W3FPR kc4wvl wrote: K2 s/n 4276 Firmware Revision(s): 2.04P 1.09 After having a previous issue with the VCO alignment (p. 61), construction went forward without a hitch. At this point, I figured that any gremlins had been banished. Not so. Another pesky gremlin has reared it's ugly head. During transmitter alignment, the initial 40 meter alignment went down in accordance with the manual's expectations. Receiver pre-alignment was straight forward. Alignment of 20 and 30 meter transmit went fine, then from that point on, it all went downhill and the current issue began. Regardless of which band or power setting, on entering TUNE, the power out readings rapidly vary across the entire scale. These rapidly changing readings are also reflected on my Diamond SK-600 power/SWR meter as well as the readigs on the current meter of the power supply. After a brief bit of time, the power out will sometimes stop fluctuating and settle down to the requested power setting. Might this be a problem with U-6, on the control board? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] N2CQ QRP Contest Calendar: Nov 15 - Dec 15, 2007
~ N2CQ QRP CONTEST CALENDAR November 15 - Dec 16, 2007 ~ 80 METER FOXHUNT (CW) *** QRP Contest *** Each Tuesday to Mar 25 9 PM to 10:29 PM Eastern Time USA Info: http://www.qrpfoxhunt.org/ ~ 40 METER FOXHUNT (CW) *** QRP Contest *** Each Thursday to March 27 9 PM to 10:29 PM Eastern Time USA Info: http://www.qrpfoxhunt.org/ ~ YO International PSK31 Contest (80 Meters) ... 50W max Nov 16, 1600z to 2200z Rules: http://www.yo5crq.ro/Rules2007EN.htm ~ LZ DX CONTEST (CW/SSB) ... QRP Category Nov 17, 1200z to Nov 18, 1200z Rules: http://www.qsl.net/lz1fw/contest/ ~ ARRL Sweepstakes (Phone) ... QRP Category Nov 17, 2100z to Nov 19, 0300z Rules: http://www.arrl.org/contests/calendar.html?year=2007 ~ European PSK Club - PSK63 QSO Party ... 100W. Max Nov 18, z to 2400z Rules: http://www.eu.srars.org/ ~ HOT Party (CW) ... QRP Category Nov 18, 1300z to 1500z (40 Meters) Nov 18, 1500z to 1700z (80 Meters) (HOMEBREW OLDTIME - EQUIPMENT - PARTY) Rules: http://www.qrpcc.de/contestrules/hotr.html ~ RUN FOR THE BACON (CW) *** QRP CONTEST *** EST: Nov 18, 9 PM to 11 PM UTC: Nov 19, 0200z 0400z Rules: http://www.gentzow.com/fpqrp/ ~ NAQCC Straight Key/Bug Sprint *** QRP CONTEST! *** EST: Nov 21, 8:30 PM to 10:30 PM UTC: Nov 22, 0130z to 0330z Rules: http://www.arm-tek.net/~yoel/contests.html ~ CQ World Wide DX Contest (CW) ... QRP Category! Nov 24, z to Nov 25, 2400z Rules: http://www.cqww.com/ ~ MQFD Monthly Sprint (CW/PH/Digital) *** QRP Contest *** Nov 24, 1800z to 2200z Rules: http://w2agn.net/mqfdsprint.html ~ SKCC Weekend Sprint (Straight Key CW) ... QRP Category Nov 25, z to z Rules: http://www.skccgroup.com/sprint/wes/wknd-sprint-rules.html ~ QRP ARCI Topband CW SSB Sprint *** QRP CONTEST *** Nov 29, z to 0600z Rules: http://www.qrparci.org/ ~ ARRL 160 meter Contest (CW) ... QRP Category Nov 30, 2200z to Dec 2, 1600z Rules: http://www.arrl.org/contests/calendar.html?year=2007 ~ TARA RTTY Mêlée ... 150W category Dec 1, z to 2400z Rules: http://www.n2ty.org/seasons/tara_melee_rules.html ~ TOPS Activity 80 Meter Contest (CW) ... QRP Category Dec 1, 1800z to Dec 2, 1800z Rules: http://procwclub.yo6ex.ro/tacrules.htm ~ Adventure Radio Spartan Sprint (CW) *** QRP Contest *** Dec 4, 0200z to 0400z (First Monday 9 PM EST) Rules: http://www.arsqrp.com/ ~ ARRL 10 Meter Contest (CW/SSB) ... QRP Category Dec 8, z to Dec 9, 2400z Rules: http://www.arrl.org/contests/calendar.html?year=2007 ~ SKCC Sprint (Straight Key CW) ... QRP Awards Dec 12, 0100z to 0300z Rules: http://skccgroup.com/sprint/sprint-rules.htm ~ NAQCC Straight Key/Bug Sprint (CW) *** QRP Contest *** EST: Dec 11, 8:30 PM to 10:30 PM UTC: Dec 12, 0130Z to 0330Z Rules: http://www.arm-tek.net/~yoel/contests.html ~ MDXA PSK-31/63 DeathMatch ... QRP Category Dec 15, z to Dec 16, 2400z Rules: http://www.mdxa1.org/deathmatch.html ~ Croatian CW Contest (CW) ... QRP Category Dec 15, 1400z to Dec 16, 1400z Rules: http://www.sk3bg.se/contest/9acwc.htm ~ QRP ARCI: Holiday Spirits Homebrew Sprint (CW) *** QRP Contest *** Dec 16, 2000z to 2359z Rules: http://www.qrparci.org ~ Thanks to SM3CER, WA7BNM, N0AX(ARRL), N2APB, WB3AAL and others for assistance in compiling this calendar. If you wish to subscribe to the Calendar, send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please forward the contest info you sponsor to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we will post it and give it more publicity. Anyone may use this N2CQ QRP Contest Calendar for your website, newsletter, e-mail list or other media
Re: [Elecraft] KAT100 with Ladder Line
Curt, There seems to be a misconception among hams that when using 450 ladder line, a 4:1 balun is the best thing to use. While that may be true in some cases, in many other cases, a 1:1 balun will serve better. It all depends on the feedpoint impedance of the feedline at the shack end, and that has little relationship with the fact that 450 ohm line is being used - i.e. the feedpoint impedance is *not* the characteristic impedance of the transmission line in most cases. The feedpoint impedance looking into the shack end of a multiband antenna can vary from extremely low to extremely high - it all depends on the length of the antenna and the length of the feedline. That being said, I would suggest that you use an Elecraft BL2 right at the output of the KAT100. Try it at the 1:1 setting first, and then try the 4:1 setting to see which produces the better results for each band. It would be informative to measure the impedance into the unbalanced end of the balun with an antenna analyzer on each band - use the setting that does not produce an extremely low of extremely high SWR on the analyzer. Often adding or subtracting a length of feedline will bring the feedpoint impedance into a better range for matching. 73, Don W3FPR Curt Milton wrote: I admit I enjoyed using a KAT100 at FD, but I wonder how much value it would be at my station. For feeding my wire antenna with balanced line, I suspect I need an external balun, that has to go someplace, and better to be attached to one of the tuner inputs. Currently I use a manual MFJ tuner (with its internal 4:1 balun) to operate my wire antenna on 30, 40, 80 and 160m. I can imagine the autotuner being useful here, but I can't envision the balun to use and how to attach it to the KAT100. My other antennas are 2 multiband verticals (80/40 and 20/17/15/12/10), and these are nicely matched where I operate - so not much utility for the KAT100 here. So will a KAT100 make my QSY more seamless, and what balun to use and how to integrate it ? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] XG2 - Kit and Drake R7 and Orion II Comparison
Wayne,
Yeah... I was going from memory... Guess my refresh rate needs to be
turned up... {'-)
Regards,
kurtt
Kurt Pawlikowski, AKA WB9FMC
The Pinrod Corporation
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wayne burdick wrote:
50 microvolts is S-9, not 20 over, in the Elecraft world :)
I'll agree with Rob on 1 uV = about S3, though.
73,
Wayne
N6KR
On Nov 15, 2007, at 8:40 AM, Kurt Pawlikowski wrote:
Tom,
Interesting! I've got the XG2 and a R-4C. I was told by Rob
Sherwood (of Sherwood engineering) that at 1 micro-volt, the meter
should be at S-3 and 20 over when set to 50 micro-volts. Since my rig
was nowhere near that and I couldn't seem to make it any better when
adjusting it, I packed it up and sent it to Rob to play with. It
could also be that my XG2 has some sort of problem too! Guess I
should have sent it along for testing! We'll see!
Also, just wondering what kind of S-meter readings you were
getting at the different XG2 settings from the two rigs.
Regards,
kurtt
Kurt Pawlikowski, AKA WB9FMC
The Pinrod Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(773) 284-9500
http://pinrod.com
Tom Childers, N5GE wrote:
Good morning.
I finished building an XG2 last evening and used my Drake R7 and
Orion II as the
test beds for the XG2.
Results: The R7 receives the 1 micro volt signals on all three
bands better
than the Orion II (less RX noise and clearer tone). I did not do
the SN
calculations scientifically, but to my ear the R7 was the better RX.
The R7 will be 30 years old next spring and has not been aligned
since the 80s.
I look forward to receiving my K3 in late January 2008.
Tom, N5GE
http://www.n5ge.com
http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE
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[Elecraft] KAT100 with Ladder Line
I admit I enjoyed using a KAT100 at FD, but I wonder how much value it would be at my station. For feeding my wire antenna with balanced line, I suspect I need an external balun, that has to go someplace, and better to be attached to one of the tuner inputs. Currently I use a manual MFJ tuner (with its internal 4:1 balun) to operate my wire antenna on 30, 40, 80 and 160m. I can imagine the autotuner being useful here, but I can't envision the balun to use and how to attach it to the KAT100. My other antennas are 2 multiband verticals (80/40 and 20/17/15/12/10), and these are nicely matched where I operate - so not much utility for the KAT100 here. So will a KAT100 make my QSY more seamless, and what balun to use and how to integrate it ? 73, curt Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] KAT100 with Ladder Line
For Field Day this year I had my K2 hooked up to a 130' dipole fed by ladder line. We ran that to a 4:1 balun and a few feet of coax to the KAT100. It tuned it up nicely on all bands. We had no trouble working anyone we called. Craig NZ0R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Milton Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:50 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KAT100 with Ladder Line I admit I enjoyed using a KAT100 at FD, but I wonder how much value it would be at my station. For feeding my wire antenna with balanced line, I suspect I need an external balun, that has to go someplace, and better to be attached to one of the tuner inputs. Currently I use a manual MFJ tuner (with its internal 4:1 balun) to operate my wire antenna on 30, 40, 80 and 160m. I can imagine the autotuner being useful here, but I can't envision the balun to use and how to attach it to the KAT100. My other antennas are 2 multiband verticals (80/40 and 20/17/15/12/10), and these are nicely matched where I operate - so not much utility for the KAT100 here. So will a KAT100 make my QSY more seamless, and what balun to use and how to integrate it ? 73, curt Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT100 with Ladder Line
Using any balun with an unbalanced tuner to feed balanced line can be bad news (your mileage may vary, standard disclaimers apply). Under highly reactive loads, a balun used like this can become quite lossy. There's a couple articles in publications and on the Internet on this, but Cebik's article is one that comes to mind ( http://www.cebik.com/link/l-bal.html ). It's better to run a real balanced tuner like a Johnson Matchbox, the MFJ Balanced Line tuner, or others, if you can. Don Wilhelm wrote: Curt, There seems to be a misconception among hams that when using 450 ladder line, a 4:1 balun is the best thing to use. While that may be true in some cases, in many other cases, a 1:1 balun will serve better. It all depends on the feedpoint impedance of the feedline at the shack end, and that has little relationship with the fact that 450 ohm line is being used - i.e. the feedpoint impedance is *not* the characteristic impedance of the transmission line in most cases. The feedpoint impedance looking into the shack end of a multiband antenna can vary from extremely low to extremely high - it all depends on the length of the antenna and the length of the feedline. -- Blog: http://thek3ngreport.blogspot.com/ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] arrival
Number 50, a kit, has just arrived in Austin and inventory has begun. Best, Dick, K5AND No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.33/1132 - Release Date: 11/15/2007 9:34 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Covers
I just received a K3 cover I ordered from www.compucover.com. They make covers in custom sizes. Not having my K3 yet, I guessed at the size from the dimensions in the FAQ. Wish I could confirm that it fits. Their price was $14.95 plus $12.00 shipping (I thought the shipping was a bit high, but the total cost seemed ok.) It took about 2 weeks. Barry, WK2S ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT100 with Ladder Line
On Thursday, November 15, 2007 at 7:00 PM, Goody K3NG wrote: Using any balun with an unbalanced tuner to feed balanced line can be bad news (your mileage may vary, standard disclaimers apply). Under highly reactive loads, a balun used like this can become quite lossy. There's a couple articles in publications and on the Internet on this, but Cebik's article is one that comes to mind ( http://www.cebik.com/link/l-bal.html ). It's better to run a real balanced tuner like a Johnson Matchbox, the MFJ Balanced Line tuner, or others, if you can. - Well put Sir! As a comment to the List, the usual type of cored current balun presented with a reactive load might appear not to be introducing loss because QSOs can be made, but as the members of our QRP fraternity well know contacts both 'local' and DX can be made using very low power given the right propagation conditions. Proof of this loss can be had by increasing Tx power up to the power rating of the balun at which point the balun could well explode if it has not already at a lower power, it will certainly becomes hot to touch. As K3NG says your mileage might vary because the antenna's feedpoint impedance as transformed by your feeder and seen by the balun might by happy fluke be non-reactive, feeder length and feeder impedance are factors, leaving only the R to deal with. If R turns out to be 200 ohms, then a 1:4 balun would work well with a Tx which wants to see a load of 50 +j0. FWIW I agree with K3NG that the classic balanced tuner such as used in the Matchbox is the best system to use when feeding a balanced line, good efficiency and versatile. 73, Geoff GM4ESD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] arrival
Congrats to Dick! Is it done yet? ;-) Is it done yet? ;-) Is it done yet? ;-) [Elecraft] arrival Dick Hanson dick at dkhanson.com Thu Nov 15 16:03:06 EST 2007 Number 50, a kit, has just arrived in Austin and inventory has begun. Best, Dick, K5AND No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.33/1132 - Release Date: 11/15/2007 9:34 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 carrying case?
Has anyone found a good protective carrying case for the K3? I am looking for something like a Pelican case, but not necessarily that heavy duty... 73 de Björn /SM0MDG ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Covers
Barry, Would you let us know how it fits after you get your K3? John [K7SVV] - Original Message - From: Barry McWilliams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 2:42 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Covers I just received a K3 cover I ordered from www.compucover.com. They make covers in custom sizes. Not having my K3 yet, I guessed at the size from the dimensions in the FAQ. Wish I could confirm that it fits. Their price was $14.95 plus $12.00 shipping (I thought the shipping was a bit high, but the total cost seemed ok.) It took about 2 weeks. Barry, WK2S ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.33/1132 - Release Date: 11/15/2007 9:34 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT100 with Ladder Line
You are quite correct. My favorite tuner of all is a link coupled balanced tuner, and it is L B Cebik's favorite too - low loss and can be configured to match just about anything - series tuning for low impedances or parallel for higher impedances. I have built many over the years. No balun required anywhere. If I were able to bring ladderline into the shack, I would have one of my old balanced tuners with the plug-in coils to match the transmitter to the ladderline - but I can't do that (don't ask!), so I use resonant antennas fed with coax and clean up any required additional tuning with a KAT100. But, one must admit that the KAT100 does offer a lot of convenience to the operator, even though it has some drawbacks - it is not balanced, and for those who are fortunate enough to bring ladderline into the shack, it can be used with a balun. It is a workable solution as long as some cautions are observed to minimize the loss. One cannot defeat the laws of physics, but for those who must use an unbalanced tuner and a ladderline fed multiband antenna, the KAT100 followed by a balun may be an acceptable solution. Adjust the feedline length so as to provide a decent feedpoint impedance at the balun without a lot of reactance, and use a current type balun (a voltage balun just will not work well in this application), and one can get on the air - it certainly is better than no antenna at all. 73, Don W3FPR Goody K3NG wrote: Using any balun with an unbalanced tuner to feed balanced line can be bad news (your mileage may vary, standard disclaimers apply). Under highly reactive loads, a balun used like this can become quite lossy. There's a couple articles in publications and on the Internet on this, but Cebik's article is one that comes to mind ( http://www.cebik.com/link/l-bal.html ). It's better to run a real balanced tuner like a Johnson Matchbox, the MFJ Balanced Line tuner, or others, if you can. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT100 with Ladder Line
I've been using Cecil Moore's (W6RCA) No-Tuner with 450 ohm ladder line for about 7 years along with a K2 / KAT-2 and it has been a pleasure to use and pretty effective. It's basically a box of 5 4pdt relays out in the yard that switches in/out combinations of 16, 8, 4, 2 and 1 foot lengths of 450 ohm ladder line to the main 450 ohm feedline to get a close match in the shack, and the KAT2 does the rest. The input to the relay box is fed with RG8X with a bead balun on the coax right at the box input. The idea is to switch just enough extra line in to get a current antinode at the antenna feedpoint for the frequency of operation. For a 80 meter half wave antenna (with 10 meter fan element tacked on), the main 450 ohm feedline is about 85-90 feet long. I've worked/confirmed ~140 countries using this antenna with 12 watts or less (mostly 5 watts). And I'm not much of a dx fanatic. 73, Lenny W2BVH Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: On Thursday, November 15, 2007 at 7:00 PM, Goody K3NG wrote: Using any balun with an unbalanced tuner to feed balanced line can be bad news (your mileage may vary, standard disclaimers apply). Under highly reactive loads, a balun used like this can become quite lossy. There's a couple articles in publications and on the Internet on this, but Cebik's article is one that comes to mind ( http://www.cebik.com/link/l-bal.html ). It's better to run a real balanced tuner like a Johnson Matchbox, the MFJ Balanced Line tuner, or others, if you can. - Well put Sir! As a comment to the List, the usual type of cored current balun presented with a reactive load might appear not to be introducing loss because QSOs can be made, but as the members of our QRP fraternity well know contacts both 'local' and DX can be made using very low power given the right propagation conditions. Proof of this loss can be had by increasing Tx power up to the power rating of the balun at which point the balun could well explode if it has not already at a lower power, it will certainly becomes hot to touch. As K3NG says your mileage might vary because the antenna's feedpoint impedance as transformed by your feeder and seen by the balun might by happy fluke be non-reactive, feeder length and feeder impedance are factors, leaving only the R to deal with. If R turns out to be 200 ohms, then a 1:4 balun would work well with a Tx which wants to see a load of 50 +j0. FWIW I agree with K3NG that the classic balanced tuner such as used in the Matchbox is the best system to use when feeding a balanced line, good efficiency and versatile. 73, Geoff GM4ESD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT100 with Ladder Line
I've been very pleased with my MFJ-974, a true balanced tuner. My measurements of feedline current with RF ammeters indicate that overall it is as efficient as my home brew link coupled tuner with plug in coils. I've used the MFJ tuner with several combinations of feedline lengths and radiator lengths, and I've never failed to get a perfect match on all bands from 80 m to 10 m. I'd like also to mention that Dipole3.exe is an excellent, free, and very easy to use program for modeling a dipole fed with balanced line. You can play with different values of feedline length and radiator length, as well as many other parameters, to determine efficiency and impedance at the transmitter end of the feedline. One source of Dipole3.exe is http://www.smeter.net/software/dipole3.exe . Dick, K0KK On Nov 15, 2007, at 1:00 , Goody K3NG wrote: vf Using any balun with an unbalanced tuner to feed balanced line can be bad news (your mileage may vary, standard disclaimers apply). Under highly reactive loads, a balun used like this can become quite lossy. There's a couple articles in publications and on the Internet on this, but Cebik's article is one that comes to mind ( http://www.cebik.com/link/l-bal.html ). It's better to run a real balanced tuner like a Johnson Matchbox, the MFJ Balanced Line tuner, or others, if you can. Don Wilhelm wrote: Curt, There seems to be a misconception among hams that when using 450 ladder line, a 4:1 balun is the best thing to use. While that may be true in some cases, in many other cases, a 1:1 balun will serve better. It all depends on the feedpoint impedance of the feedline at the shack end, and that has little relationship with the fact that 450 ohm line is being used - i.e. the feedpoint impedance is *not* the characteristic impedance of the transmission line in most cases. The feedpoint impedance looking into the shack end of a multiband antenna can vary from extremely low to extremely high - it all depends on the length of the antenna and the length of the feedline. -- Blog: http://thek3ngreport.blogspot.com/ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Fw: #56 on the air
K3 #56 is on the air ... made one 40M CW QSO last night. Now I need to learn to operate it! (:-)) Ken Kopp - K0PP K2 # 5665 K3 # 56 [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: w: #56 on the air
Great, Ken! There's always the Owner's Manual. I'm glad you were able to make a QSO without consulting it, though ;) Wayne N6KR On Nov 15, 2007, at 6:40 PM, Ken Kopp wrote: K3 #56 is on the air ... made one 40M CW QSO last night. Now I need to learn to operate it! (:-)) --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] computer headset for K2/K3 SSB
I was inspired to try to adapt the headset I use for VOIP to the K2, since I wanted to play with SSB a little. I got the idea from something that W2ENY is selling on ebay :-) I'm writing this up so it's in the archives in case someone else has the idea (and remembers to look). How hard could this be, I figured? Well ... read on. Finding the 8 pin part was easy at Radio Shack. I looked up the pinouts, hooked up PTT to a mono 1/8 jack and AF to another 1/8 jack. I plugged everything in, but got no audio response. That was just weird. I fiddled around with plumbing for a while - I plugged the mic into my laptop and the laptop audio out to the adapter, and that worked. After an hour of pulling out my hair, I realize that the microphone is a noise-cancelling mic, and thus it must get power from somewhere. A bunch of web searching led me to http://www.epanorama.net/documents/pc/multimedia_microphones.html which tells me that the PC standard is to supply +5 on the ring of the connector. I also found http://marc.info/?l=elecraftm=109408122407776w=2 in the Elecraft archives! I should have looked there first. It reminded me that there was +5V on pin 6. So I set about to put a 2.2K resistor in the 8-pin shell and use a stereo jack for the mic. That didn't work, either. Huh? Oh. There's no voltage on pin 6. It turns out that when I installed the KSB2, I didn't strap all the pins in the mic configuration header, just 1/2/7/8. Easy to fix. Hey! That was ... better. But intermittent. I couldn't figure out why. It took another hour or so to discover that I had slightly melted the insulation on the PTT lead in the 1/8 jack and it could short to ground! Also a straightforward fix, once I found it. I'm trying to use this with VOX. I'm not sure I'm going to be happy with the results, though ... we'll see. Mostly, though, I think I prefer CW! 73 de chris K6DBG ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 carrying case?
Look for BILTEMA aluminium case for tools. Easy to specialize for K3 with extras. Cheap (16 Euros) and strong enough. Benny OH9NB ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
