Re: [Elecraft] Transverting

2008-01-28 Thread Ian J Maude

Don Wilhelm wrote:

Ian,

The transverters cannot be directly connected to the K3 like they can 
on the K2.  There are signals in the K3 ACC connector that can be used 
if you want to be creative, but without that, the K3 can be connected 
to the transverters like a non-Elecraft transceiver.
Then what is the point of the K3 transverter interface?  Does it simply 
provide a low level output?


By the way (and very important) the signals from the K2 to the 
transverter are *NOT* RS-232.  Look at the connector label on the K2 - 
it says AUX I/O.  Just because it is a DE-9 connector and does 
contain 2 signal lines (TXD and RXD) that can connect to a computer 
serial port does not make it an RS-232 connector - the signals that go 
to the transverter are unique K2 internal signals.
I fully understand this Don.  That is the reason I stated serial and not 
RS232.  Perhaps I could have been more pedantic :-)


73 Ian

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Updater under Linux / Wine

2008-01-28 Thread Simon Brown (HB9DRV)

Hi Dick,

I very strongly suggest that you use GetDefaultCommConfig whenever it is 
available. There is no guarantee that installing a driver updates the 
registry entries that you reference. Using the API ensures you're OK with 
future versions of Windows and oddly enough Wine.


As for Windows 98 SE - I wish you the very best luck there is :-)

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

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I'm using exactly the technique that the .Net frameworks uses, for similar
reasons.


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Re: [Elecraft] Transverting - DB15 UK supplier?

2008-01-28 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Does anyone have a source and part number of the equivalent in the UK -
preferably with a metal shell?
I can't remember if 15's are available in the much wider (normally 25 pin)
format and obviously want to avoid those.
Pretty sure RS stock them, but finding the right one!


On 28/1/08 07:38, David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

 Radio Shack stocks DB15 male connectors. I got one there recently.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver Performance

2008-01-28 Thread GW0ETF

Chris,

I don't have a tx antenna for top band but my doublet was piling 'em in on
receive; it was an opportunity therefore to give the K3 receiver a good test
and your signal, being fairly local and a K3 was interesting to listen to.

I was particularly interested in key clicks. I noticed recently that the K3
cw waveform had a very sharp trailing edge and was told that this had crept
in after a 'very recent' firmware upgrade and will be fixed. I knew you were
there +/- 250 Hz (with the filtering down to 50Hz/250Hz 8 pole roofing
filter) but by 'ticks' rather than clicks and you were LOUD; generally the
signal sounded excellent here. Presume you were using an amp and I seem to
recall you may have an Acom 1000 which seems very good with respect to relay
timings (better be - I have one :-) so perhaps the residual ticks *are* down
to the K3 trailing edge which hopefully will be sorted soon.

I agree with you about the filtering. I could search out a weak signal
within about 250 to 500 Hz of a booming eu and wind down the filtering and
could copy the weak signal with no sign of spurii or breakthrough (assuming
no key clicks...!). I'm not so sure about the 'dual pass band' filtering; I
assume this uses the wide (2.7 KHz) roofing filter in order to accomodate
the wide skirts and often when I switched it in the wanted signal would
suffer from agc pumping from adjacent inaudible stations.This fitted with
the way the S-meter reacted and disappeared when the 'normal' narrow
filtering was reinstated.

One thing did surprise me and that was the AFX. Set to binaural and the
filtering out wide I was surprised to find that loud slightly off freq
signals would appear to drop in strength in the headphones when I switched
in the AFX. This was quite unexpected and very marked and had the effect of
bringing up the wanted signal; I can't see a physical reason for this to
happen so maybe it's 'all in the mind' but nonetheless very effective. It
seemed like the unwanted signals were being sent to the 'back of the hall'
when you switched in the AFX and keeping the wanted sigs right in the front
row.

I've had my K3 a few weeks now and I'm still being surprised about it's
performance and features; the more you become familiar with it, the better
it gets.

Have fun,

Stewart Rolfe   GW0ETF (K3 145)




G3SJJ wrote:
 
 A summary of what is to follow - Wow!!!
 
 This radio was designed and advertised as a contesters radio and it 
 certainly meets all the requirements. Ergonomics are excellent, all the 
 necessary controls are well placed and what's more, work! I spent 
 sometime in CQWW 160 CW this weekend, not a competitive entry with 406 
 Qs, 27 States and 50 countries but enough to assess the K3 rx. The 
 general sound has already been compared to the Drake R4B sound. Yes. 
 Very comfortable to listen to. The AGC constants are perfect, at least 
 for me. The Width control coupled with Shift gives a very flexible 
 selectivity selection and the Noise Reduction really eases help my power 
 line noise problem.
 
 This morning around sunrise when the band peaked it was great to hear 
 the W5s booming in, it was fantastic to be called during a run of 
 Europeans by W6XI in Arizona, but the crunch came in the last hour or so 
 at W2,3,4,8 sunset. The band was packed full of Eu, ranging from s7 to 
 40+over 9, and yet when I screw the width right down I can copy and work 
 Stateside. Now, these condx are very similar to say 40m in CQWW CW and  
 the K3 came through without a hitch.
 
 This is real radio, real contesting with a real contester's K3.
 
 Thanks Aptos !!  Chris G3SJJ
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Re: [Elecraft] Transverting - DB15 UK supplier?

2008-01-28 Thread Mike Harris
G'day,

Didn't someone previously mention the idea of obtaining a VGA cable and 
cutting one end off.  That way it's already nicely terminated at the K3 
end and ready for breakout at the other.

Watching those May dates, K3 ordered on the 21st.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

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To: David Ferrington, M0XDF [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Transverting - DB15 UK supplier?


| Look for a DB 15 HD (from High Density)
| This is the 3 row connector like the old VGA connector
|
| If you cant find a supplier in the UK
| Firma Reichelt in Germany sells them for 25 cent each
| www.reichelt.de
|
|
| 73 de Tom
|
|  Original-Nachricht 
|  Datum: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:30:47 +
|  Von: David Ferrington, M0XDF [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  An: Crafters Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
|  Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] Transverting - DB15 UK supplier?
|
|  Does anyone have a source and part number of the equivalent in the 
UK -
|  preferably with a metal shell?
|  I can't remember if 15's are available in the much wider (normally 25 
pin)
|  format and obviously want to avoid those.
|  Pretty sure RS stock them, but finding the right one!
| 
| 
|  On 28/1/08 07:38, David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:
| 
|   Radio Shack stocks DB15 male connectors. I got one there recently.
|  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Invoice Confirmation

2008-01-28 Thread Larry K1UO

Congrats Larry...Now that Panadapter project can really be fine tuned!



Larry Phipps wrote:
 
 I received my email Wednesday night, and my K3 shipped Thursday (ordered
 4-30, no deposit). Another guy received his notice Wednesday night as
 well, and his shipped Friday (ordered 5-5, no deposit). Both our emails
 were received in the evening (his at almost 11pm), so that confirms that
 they are working OT to get the radios out. Counting yours, Roy, that makes
 9 days worth of orders notified in a 4 day period. Seems like things are
 clipping along.
 
 73,
 Larry N8LP
 
 
 
 Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:09:12 -0500
 From: Roy Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Invoice Confirmation
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
 
 I received an email from Lisa Jones yesterday, Saturday, 1/26/08 stating
 my K3 will be shipping soon.  My NO DEPOSIT order was placed May 8, 2007.  
 It looks like Lisa and others at Elecraft are working overtime on the
 weekends to get these orders out.  Thank you very much, Lisa.  Roy Morris 
 W4WFB
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Transverting

2008-01-28 Thread Don Wilhelm

Ian,

The K3 transverter interface provides a low level output along with a 
dedicated RX input for the transverters.


73,
Don W3FPR


Ian J Maude wrote:
Then what is the point of the K3 transverter interface?  Does it 
simply provide a low level output?



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[Elecraft] K3/100 Kit #307

2008-01-28 Thread Stewart Baker
K3/100 S/N 307 arrived  today. UPS tried their best to screw
things up on the last mile.

Ordered 2/05/07 No deposit.
Delivered 28/01/08 14:00 UTC

Now where's my screwdriver ?

73
Stewart G3RXQ


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Re: [Elecraft] Transverting - DB15 UK supplier?

2008-01-28 Thread Andrew Faber

Bob,
Also, bear in mind that some cables that are billed as VGA monitor cables 
actually only use 13 pins, not all 15.  In fact, they have Pin 9 missing, 
which is one of the pins used for the Band Data Output signals.  One of the 
pins in the third row (i.e., 11 to 15) is also missing.  So be sure that you 
get a cable that actually has all 15 pins in the jack.
 I was quite surprised to note this when I was in a computer store looking 
for cables to cut up to use to connect my K3 to a Top-Ten Yaesu band 
decoder.

73, andy, ae6y
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Transverting - DB15 UK supplier?


You need to look for DE15, not DB15.  The letter after D designates
the shell size, so DB would be the wider type (25-pin type normally
used for parallel ports on PCs).   The type used for VGA is DE15 (15
pins in the same shell size as the DE9 used for serial ports).

73, Bob N7XY

On Jan 28, 2008, at 2:33 AM, Tom wrote:


Look for a DB 15 HD (from High Density)
This is the 3 row connector like the old VGA connector

If you cant find a supplier in the UK
Firma Reichelt in Germany sells them for 25 cent each
www.reichelt.de


73 de Tom

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Datum: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:30:47 +
Von: David Ferrington, M0XDF [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An: Crafters Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] Transverting - DB15 UK supplier?



Does anyone have a source and part number of the equivalent in the  UK -
preferably with a metal shell?
I can't remember if 15's are available in the much wider (normally  25 
pin)

format and obviously want to avoid those.
Pretty sure RS stock them, but finding the right one!


On 28/1/08 07:38, David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:


Radio Shack stocks DB15 male connectors. I got one there recently.
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RE: [Elecraft] Transverting - DB15 UK supplier? - A Connector Caution

2008-01-28 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
When fitting the connectors to the K3, make sure it seats solidly when the
jackscrews are tightened.

Fellows have reported that some *commercially-made* connectors have
jackscrews that are too long. They bottom out in the nuts before the
connector pins are fully mated resulting in intermittent connections!

It has not happened often enough to identify particular makes or sources, as
far as  I know. I'm aware of two instances that have been reported, both
from fellows using commercially made connectors. 

The problem is pretty easy to spot. The connector should be tight and solid
against the rig after the screws are tightened. Those that do not fit
properly allow the connector shell to wiggle around even though the screws
won't go in any further. 

At least one fellow creates some small washers from wire and wrapped them
under the thumbscrew heads so the screws wouldn't extend quite so far in to
the nuts on the mating connector. That fixed it for him. I understand one
other succeeded by removing the lock washers under the jackscrew nuts on the
back of his K3. 

The connectors supplied by Elecraft for the Aux Bus cables used in the
transverters and K2 are fine, *IF* the jackscrews are installed correctly!
Of course, those fit the RS232 connector on the K3, not the ACC connector.
It's easy to put the jackscrews between the wrong two stops inside the
connector shell resulting in the same problem: too much screw sticks out and
it bottoms in the nut before the connectors are fully mated. If you have one
of those that seems loose, there's a picture in the XV transverter Owner's
Manual showing exactly how the jackscrews should be installed (figure 6 on
page 10). That manual is available on-line from the Elecraft Manuals and
Downloads page or here:

http://www.elecraft.com/manual/XV%20Transverter%20Owner's%20Manual-D.pdf

Ron AC7AC




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[Elecraft] Transverting - DB15 UK supplier?

2008-01-28 Thread Dave G4AON

Dave

I got mine from Maplin (www.maplin.co.uk)

73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80

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[Elecraft] Phase noise plots

2008-01-28 Thread DaleJ

Has there been any phase noise plots for the K3 yet?

Dale, K9VUJ
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Re: [Elecraft] Transverting - DB15 UK supplier?

2008-01-28 Thread Bob
There were comments made about the seating of the connectors and 
threading issues.  One other variable that I have encountered is that 
the mounting studs come in two flavors,  US standard and metric standard 
threads.   If they bind up within a turn or two the chance exists that 
they are not the same threads. 

Not having a K3 I can't check what one it has but it is an American 
company.   Keep it in mind and thread carefully.  For those in the UK I 
have not encountered any BA threads, Hi.


73,
Bob
K2TK

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[Elecraft] K1 power output question

2008-01-28 Thread Ted Holland

Hi folks:
Just finished a 4-band k1, and thought I had low power out on all bands. 
Turns out the cable from rig to meter was open on the ground side (a 
cable Xperts cord). At 5 W requested, I now get 5 w on 20, 30, and 40 
meters, and about 4-4.5 on 15. A 7 watts requested (the maximum on the 
menu), I get approximately 7 on all bands but 15, where I get 6W. Is 
this normal for a K1, or should I do some tweaking somewhere (where?).


By the way, my 'ol K2 3854 just logged its 101st country at 5 W on a 65' 
carolina wondom.


73, Ted WB3AVD 



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[Elecraft] K3 Rx SSB Filtering

2008-01-28 Thread G3SJJ
Not sure if I understand SSB filter settings. I have the standard 2.7KHz 
flter roofing filter so I assumed the max bandwidth on the Width control 
would be
2.7KHz but I find it goes up 6KHz. Since I am never likely to use that 
kind of width, is it not possible to set the DSP to have a max bandwidth 
coinciding to the
to 2.7KHz  filter? In fact, I would be happy to have a max b/w of 2.3 
since I am used to 2KHz Inrad in my FT1kMP anyway.


Chris G3SJJ
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Re: [Elecraft] Transverting - DB15 UK supplier?

2008-01-28 Thread Bob Nielsen
You need to look for DE15, not DB15.  The letter after D designates  
the shell size, so DB would be the wider type (25-pin type normally  
used for parallel ports on PCs).   The type used for VGA is DE15 (15  
pins in the same shell size as the DE9 used for serial ports).


73, Bob N7XY

On Jan 28, 2008, at 2:33 AM, Tom wrote:


Look for a DB 15 HD (from High Density)
This is the 3 row connector like the old VGA connector

If you cant find a supplier in the UK
Firma Reichelt in Germany sells them for 25 cent each
www.reichelt.de


73 de Tom

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Datum: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:30:47 +
Von: David Ferrington, M0XDF [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An: Crafters Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] Transverting - DB15 UK supplier?


Does anyone have a source and part number of the equivalent in the  
UK -

preferably with a metal shell?
I can't remember if 15's are available in the much wider (normally  
25 pin)

format and obviously want to avoid those.
Pretty sure RS stock them, but finding the right one!


On 28/1/08 07:38, David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:


Radio Shack stocks DB15 male connectors. I got one there recently.
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Re: [Elecraft] Transverting - DB15 UK supplier?

2008-01-28 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
I need to make an adapter up, to allow me to connect my DigiKeyer and the XV
to the ACC connector, but it might do for one end - IF I can find an old
cable - being a Mac man, not many VGA cables at this QTH
Thanks for the reminder.
73 de M0XDF / K3 #174, HexKey #375

On 28/1/08 12:14, Mike Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

 G'day,
 
 Didn't someone previously mention the idea of obtaining a VGA cable and
 cutting one end off.  That way it's already nicely terminated at the K3
 end and ready for breakout at the other.
 
 Watching those May dates, K3 ordered on the 21st.
 
 Regards,
 
 Mike VP8NO
 
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 From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: David Ferrington, M0XDF [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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 | Look for a DB 15 HD (from High Density)
 | This is the 3 row connector like the old VGA connector
 |
 | If you cant find a supplier in the UK
 | Firma Reichelt in Germany sells them for 25 cent each
 | www.reichelt.de
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 | 73 de Tom
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 |  Does anyone have a source and part number of the equivalent in the
 UK -
 |  preferably with a metal shell?
 |  I can't remember if 15's are available in the much wider (normally 25
 pin)
 |  format and obviously want to avoid those.
 |  Pretty sure RS stock them, but finding the right one!
 | 
 | 
 |  On 28/1/08 07:38, David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:
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 |   Radio Shack stocks DB15 male connectors. I got one there recently.
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Re: [Elecraft] Transverting - DB15 UK supplier?

2008-01-28 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
I have an awful lot of 0 to 8 BA screws, bolts, nuts and washers, lock and
plain !

I thought all standard D connectors use the same jack screws.


On 28/1/08 19:43, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

 There were comments made about the seating of the connectors and
 threading issues.  One other variable that I have encountered is that
 the mounting studs come in two flavors,  US standard and metric standard
 threads.   If they bind up within a turn or two the chance exists that
 they are not the same threads.
 
 Not having a K3 I can't check what one it has but it is an American
 company.   Keep it in mind and thread carefully.  For those in the UK I
 have not encountered any BA threads, Hi.
 
 73,
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Re: [Elecraft] Remotely controlling a K2

2008-01-28 Thread David Fleming
I can get you half way there. 

I've written a fairly full featured K2 control app for
Mac OS X that will control the K2 over a network. I've
been using iChat for the audio. I haven't tried Skype.
I enjoy lying in bed and working CW using my Macbook.
The K2 is downstairs being controlled by an iMac.
Works like a charm.

I haven't tried this, but it's written in REALBasic,
which is cross platform, so I should be able to
compile it for Windows and it should work. I would
probably have to do some tweaking to get the UI to
look right, but it should work. I'm presently knee
deep in getting the K3 Utility for Linux ready to go,
but if you can give me a few weeks, I'll see what I
can come up with. This has been on my to-do list for
some time now. I want to be able to work CW while I'm
at work (PeeCees only). :)

David, W4SMT
 
--- Stephen Prior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Having just got around to installing skype, I
 thought I'd patch the audio
 through from my K2 then via skype to a remote
 computer.  I'm very pleased
 with the sound of the audio as relayed over the
 internet and it has set me
 wondering how I could remotely control my K2 as well
 as receiving audio via
 skype.  I'm only interested in rx at the moment.
 
 The problem is this, at home we are exclusively
 (Intel) Macs but work is a
 Windows environment.  Not surprisingly, I have the
 audio working fine
 between pc and mac versions of skype but I'm short
 of ideas as to how to
 remotely control with running a PC on one end and a
 Mac on the other. I do
 have XP on my mac but don't want to have to go down
 that road unless I
 really have to!
 
 Anyone been there and done it?  I'd be grateful for
 any advice!
 
 Thanks and 73
 
 Stephen G4SJP
 
 K1, K2 and K3 on order.
 
 
 
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[Elecraft] greyline program

2008-01-28 Thread Robert 'RC' Conley
I'd like to find and use a greyline program. Any help

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Re: [Elecraft] K1 power output question

2008-01-28 Thread Don Wilhelm

Ted,

That is about normal for a good K1.  5 watts or more on all bands is to 
be expected - most will do more.


73,
Don W3FPR

Ted Holland wrote:

Hi folks:
Just finished a 4-band k1, and thought I had low power out on all 
bands. Turns out the cable from rig to meter was open on the ground 
side (a cable Xperts cord). At 5 W requested, I now get 5 w on 20, 30, 
and 40 meters, and about 4-4.5 on 15. A 7 watts requested (the maximum 
on the menu), I get approximately 7 on all bands but 15, where I get 
6W. Is this normal for a K1, or should I do some tweaking somewhere 
(where?).


By the way, my 'ol K2 3854 just logged its 101st country at 5 W on a 
65' carolina wondom.


73, Ted WB3AVD


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Re: [Elecraft] K1 power output question

2008-01-28 Thread WA6L

I will echo what was already mentioned.  Your measurements are about the same
as what I get on my K1.  15 meters has always been a bit lower than the
other bands.

One other thing I have noticed is that the power readout on the K1 is not
linear across the bands.  I checked mine with a fairly accurate QRP
wattmeter.  If you align the power meter on the K1 so that it accurately
measures 5 watts on 40 meters, it will read a little high on 15 meters and
visa-versa.  I set mine to be spot-on at 20 meters and it is close enough
now on all the bands.

Have fun!

John, WA6L


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi folks:
 Just finished a 4-band k1, and thought I had low power out on all bands. 
 Turns out the cable from rig to meter was open on the ground side (a 
 cable Xperts cord). At 5 W requested, I now get 5 w on 20, 30, and 40 
 meters, and about 4-4.5 on 15. A 7 watts requested (the maximum on the 
 menu), I get approximately 7 on all bands but 15, where I get 6W. Is 
 this normal for a K1, or should I do some tweaking somewhere (where?).
 
 By the way, my 'ol K2 3854 just logged its 101st country at 5 W on a 65' 
 carolina wondom.
 
 73, Ted WB3AVD 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Remotely controlling a K2

2008-01-28 Thread Jack Brindle
Just a warning here to be careful. VNCs are notorious for being  
unsecure. You are probably OK on the Mac for quite a while, but the  
Windows component may open up pandora's box. For this reason many, if  
not most, companies have banned VNC from their internal networks.


Yeah, yuck!


On Jan 28, 2008, at 3:05 PM, Barry McWilliams wrote:

Here's a configuration that may work.  It incorporates a K2 radio  
control program running on your Mac and a means to control you Mac  
via the Internet from your Windows operating system PCs.  (You've  
got the audio part figured out.)


1) Install a K2 control program on you Mac.  This will allow you to  
control the frequency, mode and other parameters of your K2.  Here  
are two possible programs.


  a)  David's (W4SMT) program that he mentioned here on the  
reflector earlier today. (I don't know where it's available. This is  
the first I've heard about his work ... sounds interesting.)


  b) A program from NI5V -  (http://www.machamradio.com/software/ni5v/mack2/index.html 
)


2) Install on you Mac a VNC (Virtual Network Computer) server that  
allows you to capture your Mac's screen and keyboard.  With this,   
you can control your Mac, and thus it's applications from another  
computer via the internet.


  Here's a link to a free VNC servere for OSX -
  http://www.redstonesoftware.com/products/vine/server/index.html

3) Finally, you need a VNC viewer that runs on the Windows PCs to  
connect to the above VNC server,  control you Mac and run K2  
control program.

  Here's a link to a VNC viewer that run on Windows -
http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/4.1/winvncviewer.html

Here's the schematic ...

Windows - VNC Viewer - internet - VNC server - K2 control program

Hope this gives you some ideas,

Barry, WK2S
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[Elecraft] MFJ-290 mike with K2

2008-01-28 Thread nz0t

Has anyone tried the MFJ-290 hand mike with the K2?  I have been using an old
Midland CB mike with good audio reports but at only $18.95 the MFJ seems
worth a try.
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[Elecraft] Remotely controlling a K2

2008-01-28 Thread Barry McWilliams
Here's a configuration that may work.  It incorporates a K2 radio 
control program running on your Mac and a means to control you Mac via 
the Internet from your Windows operating system PCs.  (You've got the 
audio part figured out.)


1) Install a K2 control program on you Mac.  This will allow you to 
control the frequency, mode and other parameters of your K2.  Here are 
two possible programs.


   a)  David's (W4SMT) program that he mentioned here on the reflector 
earlier today. (I don't know where it's available. This is the first 
I've heard about his work ... sounds interesting.)


   b) A program from NI5V -  
(http://www.machamradio.com/software/ni5v/mack2/index.html)


2) Install on you Mac a VNC (Virtual Network Computer) server that 
allows you to capture your Mac's screen and keyboard.  With this,  you 
can control your Mac, and thus it's applications from another computer 
via the internet.


   Here's a link to a free VNC servere for OSX -
   http://www.redstonesoftware.com/products/vine/server/index.html

3) Finally, you need a VNC viewer that runs on the Windows PCs to 
connect to the above VNC server,  control you Mac and run K2 control 
program.

   Here's a link to a VNC viewer that run on Windows -
 http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/4.1/winvncviewer.html

Here's the schematic ...

 Windows - VNC Viewer - internet - VNC server - K2 control program

Hope this gives you some ideas,

Barry, WK2S
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Re: [Elecraft] Remotely controlling a K2

2008-01-28 Thread David Fleming
The VNC thing should work. There may be some latency
issues, but maybe not. *Heed Jack's warning*. VNC's
can be very risky.

 David's (W4SMT) program 
 (I don't know where it's available.

It's on my hard drive. :)

I've been meaning to release it, but I never got
around to it. Here are some screenshots.

http://sight.net/ik2

If there's enough interest, I'll bundle it up and make
it available for download.

David, W4SMT
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[Elecraft] Remotely controlling a K2

2008-01-28 Thread Stephen Prior
Having just got around to installing skype, I thought I'd patch the audio
through from my K2 then via skype to a remote computer.  I'm very pleased
with the sound of the audio as relayed over the internet and it has set me
wondering how I could remotely control my K2 as well as receiving audio via
skype.  I'm only interested in rx at the moment.

The problem is this, at home we are exclusively (Intel) Macs but work is a
Windows environment.  Not surprisingly, I have the audio working fine
between pc and mac versions of skype but I'm short of ideas as to how to
remotely control with running a PC on one end and a Mac on the other. I do
have XP on my mac but don't want to have to go down that road unless I
really have to!

Anyone been there and done it?  I'd be grateful for any advice!

Thanks and 73

Stephen G4SJP

K1, K2 and K3 on order.



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[Elecraft] K3 S/N 305 Baptized

2008-01-28 Thread Neal Enault
My K3/10, SN 305, had it's baptism late yesterday with two CW QSO's on 40m.  
One operator either had a faulty S-meter, or the Elecraft Mojo was modifying my 
10W.  hi hi
   
  Just for the record, I ordered it on April 30, it was shipped Jan 24, and I 
received it Jan 25.  Hey, I'm just over the hill from Aptos in Sunnyvale.  Mr. 
Brown drove through snow (really) to get it to me.
   
  72/73  Neal WA6OCP
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[Elecraft] Re: Greyline thanks

2008-01-28 Thread Robert 'RC' Conley
I googled and this like the best available
http://dx.qsl.net/propagation/greyline.html
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[Elecraft] KX1 - Internal Antenna Tuner Problem

2008-01-28 Thread MASH
Hi All:
I plugged the internal tuner board into my KX1. I am getting a
hum; no AF. The meter is flashing 1 bar. Any ideas on trouble
shooting?
Thanks, Cliff, WW6CC
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Re: [Elecraft] greyline program

2008-01-28 Thread WILLIS COOKE
N1MM has an excellent grayline program.  He will throw
in an excellent contest logging and scoring program
with it.  And, it is free.  Just go to www.n1mm.com
and follow the Yellow Brick Road.

The grayline will run without the logger if you want.

Cookie, K5EWJ

--- Robert 'RC' Conley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'd like to find and use a greyline program. Any
 help
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter performance

2008-01-28 Thread Bill W5WVO
All this leaves me wondering: What will be the best filter configuration (both 
TX and RX) for running FSK441 on meteor scatter? In case you're unfamiliar:


FSK441 uses four-tone frequency shift keying at 441 baud. The frequencies of 
the audio tones are 882, 1323, 1764, and 2205 Hz. Each encoded character uses 
three tone intervals and therefore requires 3/441 seconds (approximately 2.3 
ms) for transmission. FSK441 accommodates an alphabet of 43 characters.

-- from the WSJT manual by Joe Taylor, K1JT

Bill W5WVO


Don Wilhelm wrote:

Larry,

You are quite correct that all filters are not created equal.  For
digital modes, the group delay is just as important (if not more
important) than a flat passband and steep filter skirts.  In fact,
those filters with steep skirts often sacrifice group delay to
achieve the steep skirts - but I am generalizing here, and that may
not be a universal truth.

Unfortunately, group delay plots are not common for filters since
steep skirts seem to be the 'criteria of choice' for most amateurs.  A
Gaussian to 6 dB filter has a nice rounded nose and gentle skirts, but
has a great group delay characteristic, OTOH, Cohn filters usually
have great skirts and poor group delay in the passband.  Group delay
will make a difference in the ability to decode digital signals.

73,
Don W3FPR

Larry Molitor wrote:

--- Joe Subich, W4TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For a died in the


wool
RTTY DXer, a steep sided 270 - 300 Hz filter would
be nice
instead of 370 Hz from the 250 Hz filter.



Over the years I've spent a lot of time looking at
this issue. My interest is primarily digging weak RTTY
DX out of the noise but I do occasionally get into a
contest.

I've played with a lot of radios and filters but most
of my real testing was done with a FT-980, a TS-2000,
and a FT-2000.

While I have seen good weak signal performance with a
250 Hz filter, it was the exception not the rule. As
an example, the improvement on the FT-980 going from
the stock SSB filter to the dual CW filter was
dramatic. But going to the 250 Hz CW filter lost about
6 dB in ability to properly decode weak RTTY signals.
It was even worse on signals that had polar flutter. I
no longer have the plots of these FT-980 filters but
as I recall, the 250 Hz filter was a bit peaky in the
middle and had poor group delay characteristics
extending well in from the corners.

As you say Joe, the determining factor is the passband
ripple/group delay. In a typical bandpass filter the
group delay goes to heck at the corners. But the shape
of the corners varies from filter to filter. I've
run a number of ham filters on a network analyzer
and plotted group delay. Seems like no two filters are
the same even if the same part number. This I believe
is due to ham filters being so cheap and manufacturing
process control being minimal to keep the sell price
down to what we can afford.

So I would say, if you have a 250 Hz filter, no matter
where it's placed in any radio, give it a try on very
weak signals. Switch between a wider filter and the
narrow filter and see if there is any degradation. If
not, use the narrow filter.

Other wise, plan on not using any filter less than 300
Hz in passband width (note - this is NOT the 6 dB down
width!!! very important!!) if you want optimum weak
signal performance.



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Re: [Elecraft] greyline program

2008-01-28 Thread Joe-aa4nn
Go to:  http://n1mm.com/ 
and download the full version 7.0 and with it you

get a really good standalone grayline program.
While you are at it, n1mm is an excellent contest
logger.  Give it a go.
de Joe, aa4nn

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I'd like to find and use a greyline program. Any help

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Re: [Elecraft] greyline program

2008-01-28 Thread Robert 'RC' Conley
Thanks to all you responded.
There were two that met my requirements and
 did not include a contest logger
http://f5len.homelinux.org/atlas/index.php and
http://dx.qsl.net/propagation/greyline.html.

On Jan 28, 2008 6:48 PM, Joe-aa4nn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Go to:  http://n1mm.com/
 and download the full version 7.0 and with it you
 get a really good standalone grayline program.
 While you are at it, n1mm is an excellent contest
 logger.  Give it a go.
 de Joe, aa4nn

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  I'd like to find and use a greyline program. Any help
 
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RE: [Elecraft] greyline program

2008-01-28 Thread Greg
Also checkout DXLabs suite of programs.  Grayline plus a whole lot more

73
Greg
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Go to:  http://n1mm.com/ 
and download the full version 7.0 and with it you
get a really good standalone grayline program.
While you are at it, n1mm is an excellent contest
logger.  Give it a go.
de Joe, aa4nn

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter performance

2008-01-28 Thread Larry Molitor
Since I have gone through the optimization of four
different radios for WSJT use, I can make some
suggestions.

As it turns out the same requirements apply to the
JT65 modes used for EME so you only need to have one
setup for any WSJT mode used for any propagation mode.

FSK441, JT65 A,B  C, and the new JT4 modes all
require a 2.7 kHz or greater bandwidth for optimum
performance both on TX and RX. Although the software
can compensate to some degree for passband amplitude
variations, the best performance will be obtained with
a perfectly flat passband for both TX and RX.

Even though the bandwidth of these modes is less than
the 2.7 kHz specified, you need to have the wide
filters to allow for doppler, radio drift, frequency
errors, etc. There is no downside to using the widest
filter possible for these modes as the detection
bandwidth inside the software is on the order of 1hZ!

Many EME operators use a SDR radio wide open at 96 or
192 kHz width and the beta software which will decode
multiple signals simultaneously in that passband.

Larry - W7IUV


--- Bill W5WVO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 All this leaves me wondering: What will be the best
 filter configuration (both 
 TX and RX) for running FSK441 on meteor scatter? In
 case you're unfamiliar:
 
 FSK441 uses four-tone frequency shift keying at 441
 baud. The frequencies of 
 the audio tones are 882, 1323, 1764, and 2205 Hz.
 Each encoded character uses 
 three tone intervals and therefore requires 3/441
 seconds (approximately 2.3 
 ms) for transmission. FSK441 accommodates an
 alphabet of 43 characters.
  -- from the WSJT manual by Joe Taylor, K1JT
 
 Bill W5WVO
 
 
 Don Wilhelm wrote:
  Larry,
 
  You are quite correct that all filters are not
 created equal.  For
  digital modes, the group delay is just as
 important (if not more
  important) than a flat passband and steep filter
 skirts.  In fact,
  those filters with steep skirts often sacrifice
 group delay to
  achieve the steep skirts - but I am generalizing
 here, and that may
  not be a universal truth.
 
  Unfortunately, group delay plots are not common
 for filters since
  steep skirts seem to be the 'criteria of choice'
 for most amateurs.  A
  Gaussian to 6 dB filter has a nice rounded nose
 and gentle skirts, but
  has a great group delay characteristic, OTOH, Cohn
 filters usually
  have great skirts and poor group delay in the
 passband.  Group delay
  will make a difference in the ability to decode
 digital signals.
 
  73,
  Don W3FPR
 
  Larry Molitor wrote:
  --- Joe Subich, W4TV [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   For a died in the
 
  wool
  RTTY DXer, a steep sided 270 - 300 Hz filter
 would
  be nice
  instead of 370 Hz from the 250 Hz filter.
 
 
  Over the years I've spent a lot of time looking
 at
  this issue. My interest is primarily digging weak
 RTTY
  DX out of the noise but I do occasionally get
 into a
  contest.
 
  I've played with a lot of radios and filters but
 most
  of my real testing was done with a FT-980, a
 TS-2000,
  and a FT-2000.
 
  While I have seen good weak signal performance
 with a
  250 Hz filter, it was the exception not the rule.
 As
  an example, the improvement on the FT-980 going
 from
  the stock SSB filter to the dual CW filter was
  dramatic. But going to the 250 Hz CW filter lost
 about
  6 dB in ability to properly decode weak RTTY
 signals.
  It was even worse on signals that had polar
 flutter. I
  no longer have the plots of these FT-980 filters
 but
  as I recall, the 250 Hz filter was a bit peaky in
 the
  middle and had poor group delay characteristics
  extending well in from the corners.
 
  As you say Joe, the determining factor is the
 passband
  ripple/group delay. In a typical bandpass filter
 the
  group delay goes to heck at the corners. But the
 shape
  of the corners varies from filter to filter.
 I've
  run a number of ham filters on a network
 analyzer
  and plotted group delay. Seems like no two
 filters are
  the same even if the same part number. This I
 believe
  is due to ham filters being so cheap and
 manufacturing
  process control being minimal to keep the sell
 price
  down to what we can afford.
 
  So I would say, if you have a 250 Hz filter, no
 matter
  where it's placed in any radio, give it a try on
 very
  weak signals. Switch between a wider filter and
 the
  narrow filter and see if there is any
 degradation. If
  not, use the narrow filter.
 
  Other wise, plan on not using any filter less
 than 300
  Hz in passband width (note - this is NOT the 6 dB
 down
  width!!! very important!!) if you want optimum
 weak
  signal performance.
 
 
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RE: [Elecraft] Remotely controlling a K2

2008-01-28 Thread Brett Howard
I run VNC with no real problems.  The secret is to only allow that port
access to specific IP addresses.  Granted someone can spoof the IP and gain
access but a lot of different holes have to line up just right for someone
to first know what the number is and second know how to exploit the system.


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Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 3:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Remotely controlling a K2

Just a warning here to be careful. VNCs are notorious for being  
unsecure. You are probably OK on the Mac for quite a while, but the  
Windows component may open up pandora's box. For this reason many, if  
not most, companies have banned VNC from their internal networks.

Yeah, yuck!


On Jan 28, 2008, at 3:05 PM, Barry McWilliams wrote:

 Here's a configuration that may work.  It incorporates a K2 radio  
 control program running on your Mac and a means to control you Mac  
 via the Internet from your Windows operating system PCs.  (You've  
 got the audio part figured out.)

 1) Install a K2 control program on you Mac.  This will allow you to  
 control the frequency, mode and other parameters of your K2.  Here  
 are two possible programs.

   a)  David's (W4SMT) program that he mentioned here on the  
 reflector earlier today. (I don't know where it's available. This is  
 the first I've heard about his work ... sounds interesting.)

   b) A program from NI5V -
(http://www.machamradio.com/software/ni5v/mack2/index.html 
 )

 2) Install on you Mac a VNC (Virtual Network Computer) server that  
 allows you to capture your Mac's screen and keyboard.  With this,   
 you can control your Mac, and thus it's applications from another  
 computer via the internet.

   Here's a link to a free VNC servere for OSX -
   http://www.redstonesoftware.com/products/vine/server/index.html

 3) Finally, you need a VNC viewer that runs on the Windows PCs to  
 connect to the above VNC server,  control you Mac and run K2  
 control program.
   Here's a link to a VNC viewer that run on Windows -
 http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/4.1/winvncviewer.html

 Here's the schematic ...

 Windows - VNC Viewer - internet - VNC server - K2 control program

 Hope this gives you some ideas,

 Barry, WK2S
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[Elecraft] Power 160M

2008-01-28 Thread David N.
Hi all
I Noticed that during the cq 160m contest this weekend
that I could not get more than 4 watts out of my K2
The Requested power goes up to 15.2 of course but I
cannot get more than 4 and on the first transmit I get
a momentary Hi current. My power supply is steady on
voltage and current. I switched the display on the K2
to display V/I and the voltage drops on transmit and
the current goes up to about 2.4. This is within the
Cal Current range. Now on 40 meters it is fine it puts
out 14 watts. same with 30m. I haven't tried the other
bands. Also the Requested power on 160m does not match
at any request of power through out the range from
lowest to highest. Is this connected?
Thanks
David KR4OW 
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 filter performance

2008-01-28 Thread Greg
Seems like anything from the 1.8 kHz on up to the supplied 2.7 should work
fine.

Greg
AB7R


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Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 4:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Larry Molitor
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter performance


All this leaves me wondering: What will be the best filter configuration
(both
TX and RX) for running FSK441 on meteor scatter? In case you're unfamiliar:

FSK441 uses four-tone frequency shift keying at 441 baud. The frequencies
of
the audio tones are 882, 1323, 1764, and 2205 Hz. Each encoded character
uses
three tone intervals and therefore requires 3/441 seconds (approximately 2.3
ms) for transmission. FSK441 accommodates an alphabet of 43 characters.
 -- from the WSJT manual by Joe Taylor, K1JT

Bill W5WVO


Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Larry,

 You are quite correct that all filters are not created equal.  For
 digital modes, the group delay is just as important (if not more
 important) than a flat passband and steep filter skirts.  In fact,
 those filters with steep skirts often sacrifice group delay to
 achieve the steep skirts - but I am generalizing here, and that may
 not be a universal truth.

 Unfortunately, group delay plots are not common for filters since
 steep skirts seem to be the 'criteria of choice' for most amateurs.  A
 Gaussian to 6 dB filter has a nice rounded nose and gentle skirts, but
 has a great group delay characteristic, OTOH, Cohn filters usually
 have great skirts and poor group delay in the passband.  Group delay
 will make a difference in the ability to decode digital signals.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 Larry Molitor wrote:
 --- Joe Subich, W4TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  For a died in the

 wool
 RTTY DXer, a steep sided 270 - 300 Hz filter would
 be nice
 instead of 370 Hz from the 250 Hz filter.


 Over the years I've spent a lot of time looking at
 this issue. My interest is primarily digging weak RTTY
 DX out of the noise but I do occasionally get into a
 contest.

 I've played with a lot of radios and filters but most
 of my real testing was done with a FT-980, a TS-2000,
 and a FT-2000.

 While I have seen good weak signal performance with a
 250 Hz filter, it was the exception not the rule. As
 an example, the improvement on the FT-980 going from
 the stock SSB filter to the dual CW filter was
 dramatic. But going to the 250 Hz CW filter lost about
 6 dB in ability to properly decode weak RTTY signals.
 It was even worse on signals that had polar flutter. I
 no longer have the plots of these FT-980 filters but
 as I recall, the 250 Hz filter was a bit peaky in the
 middle and had poor group delay characteristics
 extending well in from the corners.

 As you say Joe, the determining factor is the passband
 ripple/group delay. In a typical bandpass filter the
 group delay goes to heck at the corners. But the shape
 of the corners varies from filter to filter. I've
 run a number of ham filters on a network analyzer
 and plotted group delay. Seems like no two filters are
 the same even if the same part number. This I believe
 is due to ham filters being so cheap and manufacturing
 process control being minimal to keep the sell price
 down to what we can afford.

 So I would say, if you have a 250 Hz filter, no matter
 where it's placed in any radio, give it a try on very
 weak signals. Switch between a wider filter and the
 narrow filter and see if there is any degradation. If
 not, use the narrow filter.

 Other wise, plan on not using any filter less than 300
 Hz in passband width (note - this is NOT the 6 dB down
 width!!! very important!!) if you want optimum weak
 signal performance.


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Re: [Elecraft] Re: Greyline thanks

2008-01-28 Thread Ken Alexander
That's OK if it's all you want.  However, programs
like DX Atlas offer MUCH more for hams.

http:\\www.dxatlas.com

73,

Ken Alexander
VE3HLS


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Re: [Elecraft] K1 #2500 QRV... almost...

2008-01-28 Thread Rich Smith

Thanks All that helped out ... I appreciate the assist!

I heard back from Tech support and they agreed that it is probably a bad 20M
crystal, so they are sending me a new one.  After hearing that from them I
wondered what would happen if I replaced the 20M with the unused 17M
crystal, so I swapped em out and it now works on all 4 bands so it
WAS the problem.  So now I just have to wait for the new Crystal and then I
can finish off the kit.  I am one happy camper... This calls for a nice
glass ( or 2) of some of Merlot 

I hope this will help others in the future that may have the same
experience. 
73's
Rich, AB6TY
Paso Robles, CA
K1 # 2500 
--
 So far I have been able to get 40, 30 and 15 working ok but I do not
 hear any signals on 20M.  I went through all of the test points of the
 Cheap  Dirty Signal Tracing list.  all points seemed to work except
 points 4, 5,  6 on the list,

 *4) *Filt Board, junction C11/C12, output of Band 1 RF BPF.

 *5)* Filt Board, C13, inter-stage coupling RF BPF.

 *6)* Filt Board, junction C14/C15, input to Band1 RF BPF.

 I was able to hear a jump in signal noise on all of the other points.
 So I guess there is a problem in the Pre-Mixer area for 20M.  I went
 through and removed any excess solder and reheated each joint for all
 of the components. and I removed the Xtal to make sure there was not a
 solder to ground problem under the can and then resoldered the xtal
 back on the PCB.

 I was able to hear signals on 15M , and had QSO's on 30  40.

 Could it be a bad Xtal , relay switch. or C3 or C4 variable Caps???

 Rich, AB6TY



Rich Smith wrote:
 
 Well. I just tested my 4-band K1, s/n 2500 on 30M and received a nice
 signal
 report. :-)
  
 :-(   But, I am having a problem with 20Meters. I am not able to hear a
 signal at all on that band.  I did the Cheap and Dirty Signal Tracing
 for
 the K1 having success with all of the test points except for numbers 4,
 5,
  6 which tells me that the problem must be in the KFL1-4 Premix Band-Pass
 Filter section.  Anyone have an idea on what to try next to find the
 problem??
 
 Thanks
  
 Richard, AB6TY
 Paso Robles, CA 
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Re: Junk: [Elecraft] greyline program

2008-01-28 Thread Tom Childers, N5GE
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:26:17 -0600, you wrote:

I'd like to find and use a greyline program. Any help

DX Atlas is a good one.

http://www.dxatlas.com/


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RE: [Elecraft] K1 power output question

2008-01-28 Thread Brett Howard
Does your unit have the ATU in it?  The problem may be your antenna.  The
power meter in the unit is less accurate for higher SWR values unless you
have the ATU then the rf meter on that board replaces the poor mans rf
detect in the K1.

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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1 power output question


I will echo what was already mentioned.  Your measurements are about the
same
as what I get on my K1.  15 meters has always been a bit lower than the
other bands.

One other thing I have noticed is that the power readout on the K1 is not
linear across the bands.  I checked mine with a fairly accurate QRP
wattmeter.  If you align the power meter on the K1 so that it accurately
measures 5 watts on 40 meters, it will read a little high on 15 meters and
visa-versa.  I set mine to be spot-on at 20 meters and it is close enough
now on all the bands.

Have fun!

John, WA6L


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi folks:
 Just finished a 4-band k1, and thought I had low power out on all bands. 
 Turns out the cable from rig to meter was open on the ground side (a 
 cable Xperts cord). At 5 W requested, I now get 5 w on 20, 30, and 40 
 meters, and about 4-4.5 on 15. A 7 watts requested (the maximum on the 
 menu), I get approximately 7 on all bands but 15, where I get 6W. Is 
 this normal for a K1, or should I do some tweaking somewhere (where?).
 
 By the way, my 'ol K2 3854 just logged its 101st country at 5 W on a 65' 
 carolina wondom.
 
 73, Ted WB3AVD 
 
 
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[Elecraft] K3 #272 QRV in style

2008-01-28 Thread Don Rasmussen
Having used all my stored patience getting the K3
built and receiving on Sunday, the KPA3 100 watts was
the next order of the evening for tonight. 

It went enjoyably as usual, but all the PA connectors
take quite a bit of physical force and you really need
to support the RF board carefully to keep it from an
over flex condition.

Press -real- hard, support the board from the bottom,
and don't zap it with static while doing it. ;-)

I pressed from the bottom with a folded up anti static
bag under my fingers.

I put the K3 on a 40 meter dipole at 30 feet, used 75
watts, and put out call number one (ever), and hooked
up with K2A/KH6 at 7.054. Max gave me a 599 from
Hawaii. 

This radio is just a pleasure to the senses, sounds
great, feels great, the pictures don't do it justice. 

I'd suggest that by the book is the only way to go
with this transceiver, -everything- has been thought
of, but you really need to follow the plan to the
letter.

For example, the front panel has 4 main standoffs, all
5/16ths long but 2 are drilled at 2-56 and 2 are 4-40.


I can't see the difference between those sizes myself
but you need to take the time to know that there are 4
in the process, compare them against each other, then
mount them where they go - specifically.

All round head screws go on the bottom, flat head on
the top - all teeny tiny and look remarkably the same
to me. Building RC helicopters put your head in the
right frame of mind for getting all this tiny work
just right. There are lots of parts that should not be
forced and many screws that should not be over
torqued.  

I'd suggest to most anyone that does not have real
good finger tip skills, fairly sharp eyesight and a
good selection of miniature tools - to just to buy the
factory assembled unit. The radio itself is THAT good.

Having it built by the book by the people who created
it is, IMHO, worth every cent they charge and it ought
to be more. ;-)

YMMV

de wb8yqj



 
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[Elecraft] KAT3 - Antenna tuned or not?

2008-01-28 Thread Tedd Wong
I am attempting to tune a Zero-Five Vertical with the KAT3.  How do I determine 
if the KAT3 has found a match?  I see the SWR on the K3 close to 1:1and full 
power out but my external SWR meter is still 5:1.  Thanks.


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Re: [Elecraft] Transverting - DB15 UK supplier?

2008-01-28 Thread David Pratt
In a recent message, David Ferrington, M0XDF [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote ...

I thought all standard D connectors use the same jack screws.


You thought wrong ;-(

73
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Leeds, England, UK
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Re:[Elecraft] K3 filter performance

2008-01-28 Thread David Woolley (E.L)

Larry Molitor wrote:


The DSP filters and DSP modems following the IF
filters cannot re-constitute the distorted signal so


Do not, rather than cannot.

Firstly, the Finite Impulse Response (FIR) filters used need not, and 
are almost certainly constructed so that they do not, introduce any 
group delay distortion of their own.  That means that you can still use 
narrow DSP filters, even if you have to compromise the roofing filter.


Moreover, it has been standard practice for at least a couple of 
decades, to use adaptive versions of such filters mitigate group delay 
distortion in telephone modems.  In that context, they generally require 
synchonrous transmission, because the standard adaptive equalizers only 
fully cancel inter-symbol interference at the actual sampling points. 
Although synchronous operation does make the adaptive process easier, 
I'm not sure that the longer filters that can be implemented in modern 
fast DSPs, combined with the relatively fixed distortion the the receive 
filters, cannot compensate for non-synchronous signals.



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RE: [Elecraft] KAT3 - Antenna tuned or not?

2008-01-28 Thread Ed Muns
 I am attempting to tune a Zero-Five Vertical with the KAT3.  
 How do I determine if the KAT3 has found a match?  I see the 
 SWR on the K3 close to 1:1and full power out but my external 
 SWR meter is still 5:1.  Thanks.

The external SWR meter is not affected by the KAT3 because it is between the
KAT3 and the non-resonant load.  The KAT3 has presented a 1:1 match to the
K3, but the antenna is still 5:1, and will radiate, or not, accordingly.

73,
Ed - W0YK

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[Elecraft] Greyline program for your mobile phone

2008-01-28 Thread Sverre Holm
Here's a planetarium program for your Java mobile phone that also includes a 
greyline program:

http://www.piecafe.co.uk/solun/jsolun.htm


Sverre
LA3ZA

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