Re: [Elecraft] I Don't Mean to Steal Eric's Thunder but ...
It supports AM receive and has since I got my K3 at xmas 73 de M0XDF / K3 #174 On 01/03/2008 02:30, "Don Rasmussen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: > (I wonder if the firmware supports FM yet?) > > Or AM receive... Inquiring minds want to know. > > The chances that I'll ever use the K3 on AM transmit > are very low given the hollow state rigs I have here, > but I'd really like to use that FM roofer for AM and > SSB wideband receive. > > Thanks for stirring the pot Gary. !!! ;-) > > > [Elecraft] I Don't Mean to Steal Eric's Thunder but > ... > Gary Hvizdak garyhvizdak at cfl.rr.com > Fri Feb 29 21:07:16 EST 2008 > > > > The shipping status page is still dated February 15th, > but it now shows the > status of FM B/W filter as in stock! > > (I wonder if the firmware supports FM yet?) > > 73, -- If all our misfortunes were laid in one common heap whence everyone must take an equal portion, most people would be contented to take their own and depart. -Socrates (469?-399 B.C.) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Just Say No.
In a message dated 2/29/08 8:08:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > it was made in China? > No. Justno. 73 de Jim, N2EY ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Another one on order
Walter Gilles wrote: > > > Its about the Elecraft team, and how they run their > business. It has to do with the passion they exhibit > for what they do, the integrity with which they > execute their enterprise, and the collaborative > quality of their customers experience. > > I own transceivers from the big three offshore > manufacturers Kenwood, Icom and Yaesu. I like what > I have, but I might as well have purchased them from a > vending machine. > > You hit the nail on the head Walter! You're buying more than a product...you're buying part of a company named Elecraft. I had to chuckle when I saw the following on the IC-7800 list: VA7OJ: "One cannot really compare the Elecraft and Icom R&D operations in any meaningful way. In the test-equipment world, Wavetek vs. HP/Agilent or R&S might be a reasonable comparison." Forgetting the supercilious tone, I have news for Adam. Indeed you cannot compare the operations in any meaningful way. The customer responsiveness of the Elecraft team is about 100 dB better than Icom will ever be. I have the privilege of being on the K3 Field Test team and their engineering talent and responsiveness is even more awesome than you can imagine. I've seen fixes to fairly complex issues implemented in a matter of hours (the hardware AGC issue comes to mind). There truly is no comparison to the customer focus and responsiveness of the two companies. The most recent question from Wayne on this list regarding the K3's I/II function being a very good example. I don't recall ever seeing any request for direct customer input from l'Icom. I wonder if Adam has ever head the story of his namesake and Goliath? I've also had the privilege of working for Hewlett-Packard (Test & Measurement side) for ~30 years. Elecraft very much reminds me of the passionate company under Bill and Dave that I joined in 1966. That $200M company then grew to well over $100B today, so small companies sometimes do become larger ones under good leadership. Elecraft is totally focused on amateur radio...not the LMR market, not cellphones, not audio equipment. Speaking as a ham, that's a very good thing! It's also one of the major reasons we're seeing American companies (Elecraft, Flex-Radio and Ten-Tec) now dominating the performance charts over larger companies focused on many other markets. Goliath better wake up before it's too late! Welcome to the K3, the company and the community here. 73, Bill W4ZV -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3---Another-one-on-order-tp15772658p15773224.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 product reveiws - 2 down, 1 to go?
Sherwood: done ARRL: done RadCom: ??? Does RadCom have a K3 for testing? I dropped my sub some time ago...is Peter Hart still the reviewer? de Doug KR2Q ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Another one on order
Bill... not that it makes any real difference to the point you were making but it's David and Goliath. Anyway, I have a K3 on order for all the reasons you gave and at least one more I've been under the impression that Elecraft's products are "made in the USA". But some comments here on the reflector have made me wonder how true that is... do you happen to know? 73, Jerry K3BZ - Original Message - From: "Bill W4ZV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 7:16 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Another one on order Walter Gilles wrote: Its about the Elecraft team, and how they run their business. It has to do with the passion they exhibit for what they do, the integrity with which they execute their enterprise, and the collaborative quality of their customers experience. I own transceivers from the big three offshore manufacturers Kenwood, Icom and Yaesu. I like what I have, but I might as well have purchased them from a vending machine. You hit the nail on the head Walter! You're buying more than a product...you're buying part of a company named Elecraft. I had to chuckle when I saw the following on the IC-7800 list: VA7OJ: "One cannot really compare the Elecraft and Icom R&D operations in any meaningful way. In the test-equipment world, Wavetek vs. HP/Agilent or R&S might be a reasonable comparison." Forgetting the supercilious tone, I have news for Adam. Indeed you cannot compare the operations in any meaningful way. The customer responsiveness of the Elecraft team is about 100 dB better than Icom will ever be. I have the privilege of being on the K3 Field Test team and their engineering talent and responsiveness is even more awesome than you can imagine. I've seen fixes to fairly complex issues implemented in a matter of hours (the hardware AGC issue comes to mind). There truly is no comparison to the customer focus and responsiveness of the two companies. The most recent question from Wayne on this list regarding the K3's I/II function being a very good example. I don't recall ever seeing any request for direct customer input from l'Icom. I wonder if Adam has ever head the story of his namesake and Goliath? I've also had the privilege of working for Hewlett-Packard (Test & Measurement side) for ~30 years. Elecraft very much reminds me of the passionate company under Bill and Dave that I joined in 1966. That $200M company then grew to well over $100B today, so small companies sometimes do become larger ones under good leadership. Elecraft is totally focused on amateur radio...not the LMR market, not cellphones, not audio equipment. Speaking as a ham, that's a very good thing! It's also one of the major reasons we're seeing American companies (Elecraft, Flex-Radio and Ten-Tec) now dominating the performance charts over larger companies focused on many other markets. Goliath better wake up before it's too late! Welcome to the K3, the company and the community here. 73, Bill W4ZV -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3---Another-one-on-order-tp15772658p15773224.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Another one on order
Bill W4ZV wrote: > > > I wonder if Adam has ever head the story of his namesake and Goliath? > Oops...wrong Icom zealot...thinking of KY1V. :-) 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3---Another-one-on-order-tp15772658p15773236.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 product reveiws - 2 down, 1 to go?
Yes, Peter is still the reviewer and we have regular reviews of the latest and greatest, but we don't know in advance. David G3UNA Sherwood: done ARRL: done RadCom: ??? Does RadCom have a K3 for testing? I dropped my sub some time ago...is Peter Hart still the reviewer? de Doug KR2Q ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Calling the ELECRAFT Users Groups on SSB starting Sunday
I've gotten about 10 big thank-you's for starting this group. The Thursday evening kick-off had 6 check-ins but lots QRM. I got favorable responses for having separate K2 and K3 groups, so those with specific concerns aren't left out half the time. I am taking a more diplomatic approach now, giving equal recognition for K2/3 users and postponing the split until the group decides (or not). We still have to confirm find our frequencies. Since Europe has broadcast QRM on 7195, I've changed that frequency to 7185, noted below. If you know of conflicts on either frequency, please make a better suggestion. I did a partial search on ARRL net list and did't see conflicts, but -- ? - ELECRAFT USERS GROUP ON SSB SECOND DRAFT SCHEDULE - Feb. 29 2008 MONDAY & THURSDAY EVENINGS (day according to local time N. America) starting 0200 UTC (9PM EST / 6PM PST) until ? 7.185 MHz SUNDAY AFTERNOONS 2100 UTC (4PM EST / 1PM PST) to 2300 UTC 14.235 MHz PROCEDURE: Listen +/- 5 kHz. If nobody's there, call "CQ Elecraft Users Group". When identifying, add "in the Elecraft Users Group" frequently, to help others find us. This isn't "my" net. It's OURS. I welcome YOUR efforts to help organize. Windy KM5Q Net Catalyst Santa Fe, NM K3#?? due in late March -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Calling-the-ELECRAFT-Users-Groups-on-SSB-starting-Sunday-tp15773243p15773243.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 build rate
Thanks for the update. In round numbers, output now seems to be around 200 per month, although Feb is a short month. ;-) For many, it must be like watching an old-fashioned egg timer - the big pile of sand on top with only a few grains at a time passing through the "waist" to exit at the bottom. I am glad that I now have mine, but I remember the long wait (8 months for mine). It's a great radio and once you get yours, the memory of the wait will begin to fade. But until then...it is tough while you're waiting. Just remember - everybody is staying in the queue for a good reason. Hang in there. de Doug KR2Q ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Just Say No.
If, for the sake of argument (and this IS just a "what if" exercise, after all), they COULD make a K3 somewhere else at a lower cost, and offered you a choice: 1) U.S. made K3 with a collection of options that costs $2,500 or 2) "Somewhere else" made K3 with the same options that costs $1,500. (Again, I'm making that number up). Which would you choose? If you chose #2, here's another question: Would you ever spend more for the identical unit made in the U.S.? If so, how much more? I'm very happy to have them here in the U.S., even if that means acknowledging that California IS part of it. :-) 73, Steve NN4X On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:06 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In a message dated 2/29/08 8:08:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > it was made in China? > > > No. Justno. > > 73 de Jim, N2EY > > > > ** > Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > > > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 build rate
In a message dated 3/1/08 8:10:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > In round numbers, output now seems to be > around 200 per month, > For many, it must be like watching an old-fashioned egg timer - the > big pile of sand on top with only a few grains at a time passing > through the "waist" to exit at the bottom. I am glad that I now have > mine, but I remember the long wait (8 months for mine). Remember too that a lot of the wait was for the first production units to be completed. There were several months when none were shipped but many were being ordered, so the backlog was building; now it's been reduced. Perhaps the publication of the reviews and the record-breaking results of Ducie Island (at the bottom of the cycle, too!) will generate huge numbers of new orders. Meanwhile - where's that piggy bank? 73 de Jim, N2EY ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Fine/Coarse VFO settings
Eric / Wayne - This may be pilot error on my part as I have only had the radio a few days but I noted a nuisance issue during the ARRL SSB DX Contest. I was operating split vfo on 40M. Both VFO's were set to fine tune. I decided to switch vfo B to coarse so I could qsy rapidly to an announced qrg frequency above 7125. I discovered if I set vfo B to coarse tune that vfo A also switches to coarse tune. It would be slick if the firmware enabled independent switching of vfo A or Vfo B to fine/coarse. That would enable fine tuning for stations on vfo A while coarse tuning vfo B in split operation. I realize it is possible to enter vfo B freq from keypad but that would be awkward and a hassle in an ssb contest situation on 40M. I also hope that as soon as the second receiver design issues settle that Wayne will be able to produce the complete programmers reference manual. My Microham Microkeyer has the hiccups with the K3 in some modes. Thanks for your consideration 73 Jim K7EG ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] ICOM ProIII price reductions // "The K3 Effect"
I note from the ProIII reflector that new ProIII's can now be had for as little as $2384.10. I guess we could call it "The K3 Effect"? As always, it's interesting watching the market reactions to new gear. 73, Steve NN4X ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Another one on order
Hi Jerry, On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:42 AM, Jerry Keller (K3BZ) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bill... not that it makes any real difference to the point you were > making but it's David and Goliath. Yes, too early and I corrected that...was thinking of David KY1V. Anyway, I have a K3 on order for all > the reasons you gave and at least one more I've been under the > impression that Elecraft's products are "made in the USA". But some > comments here on the reflector have made me wonder how true that is... do > you happen to know? Since most Elecraft products are kits, they are actually "made" everywhere (by the kit builder). If you mean the components inside them, I'm sure they're sourced from many places. It would be very difficult to find parts if you stipulated that all must come from the USA. I've been on the list since I built a K2 about 4 years ago but haven't noticed many comments about this...maybe I just wasn't paying attention. I'm fairly sure Elecraft does all final test and assembly of the K3 in Aptos, outsources SMD board-stuffing (not sure to whom) and the components come from everywhere. What matters most to me is where the products are designed (i.e. the real value-added in today's world). I believe the 3 American companies (Elecraft, Flex and Ten-Tec) have the business model of the future (which may apply to many other areas besides ham radio): 1. Distribute directly instead of via distributors...thereby saving significant costs (somewhat like Dell did with PCs). 2. Make heavy use of the Internet as a tool for customer feedback, firmware updates, building customer loyalty, etc. 3. Listen to customers intently and respond promptly (this is the real key to success IMHO). 4. Enable other companies to facilitate your own success. N8LP's LP-PAN and VE3NEA's CW Skimmer are going to have a **huge** impact on the success of the K3. I truly doubt that the Big-3 have the slightest comprehension of the impact this may have in strengthening the K3's success in the marketplace. It's a very simple but powerful model that the Big-3 have yet to figure out...probably influenced by their language barrier. By the time they figure it out, the world may have vastly changed on them. 73, Bill W4ZV P.S. Copying to the list since others might have comments. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] VP6DX K3 Configuration(s)
Could someone post the configurations of the K3's used by the VP5DX Ducie Island expedition? I would really like to know which roofing filters they used. -- 73, W0JFR -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/VP6DX-K3-Configuration%28s%29-tp15773256p15773256.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] [K3] off freq
I'm getting reposts that my VFO is 22Hz off freq low. This due to my lack of good calibration I'm sure. What I'm not sure is, do I reduce or increase the freq in REF Cal? -- When work is a pleasure, life is a joy! When work is a duty, life is slavery. -Maxim Gorky, author (1868-1936) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Another one on order
Thanks, Bill When you get down to the component level or even the board level I'm sure much has to sourced offshore. Even if we could afford what Elecraft would have to pay for onshore labor costs to build those boards, I doubt that the skills are adequately available here anymore. So of course I meant the the final assembly of the "factory assembled" K3 units. I'm glad to hear it's all done in California. (And as kits, in home workshops around the globe) I don't think it's a "language barrier" that keeps the Big 3 from taking an accurate pulse of the amateur community... at least not in this country. Nowadays they each have plenty of English speakers in their management. But do they have real hams doing their design work? Do they have real hams getting real-time feedback from the users? Probably not so much. As you point out, that is what makes Elecraft really special we knows 'em, and they is us. 73, Jerry K3BZ - Original Message - From: "Bill Tippett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jerry Keller (K3BZ)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Another one on order Hi Jerry, On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:42 AM, Jerry Keller (K3BZ) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bill... not that it makes any real difference to the point you were making but it's David and Goliath. Yes, too early and I corrected that...was thinking of David KY1V. Anyway, I have a K3 on order for all the reasons you gave and at least one more I've been under the impression that Elecraft's products are "made in the USA". But some comments here on the reflector have made me wonder how true that is... do you happen to know? Since most Elecraft products are kits, they are actually "made" everywhere (by the kit builder). If you mean the components inside them, I'm sure they're sourced from many places. It would be very difficult to find parts if you stipulated that all must come from the USA. I've been on the list since I built a K2 about 4 years ago but haven't noticed many comments about this...maybe I just wasn't paying attention. I'm fairly sure Elecraft does all final test and assembly of the K3 in Aptos, outsources SMD board-stuffing (not sure to whom) and the components come from everywhere. What matters most to me is where the products are designed (i.e. the real value-added in today's world). I believe the 3 American companies (Elecraft, Flex and Ten-Tec) have the business model of the future (which may apply to many other areas besides ham radio): 1. Distribute directly instead of via distributors...thereby saving significant costs (somewhat like Dell did with PCs). 2. Make heavy use of the Internet as a tool for customer feedback, firmware updates, building customer loyalty, etc. 3. Listen to customers intently and respond promptly (this is the real key to success IMHO). 4. Enable other companies to facilitate your own success. N8LP's LP-PAN and VE3NEA's CW Skimmer are going to have a **huge** impact on the success of the K3. I truly doubt that the Big-3 have the slightest comprehension of the impact this may have in strengthening the K3's success in the marketplace. It's a very simple but powerful model that the Big-3 have yet to figure out...probably influenced by their language barrier. By the time they figure it out, the world may have vastly changed on them. 73, Bill W4ZV P.S. Copying to the list since others might have comments. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Just Say No.
S Sacco wrote: If you chose #2, here's another question: Would you ever spend more for the identical unit made in the U.S.? If so, how much more? Certainly not. I don't care in *which* foreigh country it is made :-) 73 LA4RT Jon, Trondheim, Norway ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 build rate
It looks like the delay between ordering and receipt has now dropped to just under 8 months (~7.9). I'm watching that number. It has to drop to 3 months by May, in order for me to receive mine as scheduled. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Another one on order
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Jerry Keller (K3BZ) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think it's a "language barrier" that keeps the Big 3 from taking an > accurate pulse of the amateur community... at least not in this country. > Nowadays they each have plenty of English speakers in their management. But > do they have real hams doing their design work? Do they have real hams > getting real-time feedback from the users? Probably not so much. As you > point out, that is what makes Elecraft really special we knows 'em, and > they is us. Sadly I think it's more than that. I believe it's more a case of the "big company" syndrome. Customer feedback gets lost in the process. My personal example is Yaesu and the infamous FT-1000 family's key clicks. I spoke to Chip K7JA who was then their main USA contact many times about this issue. I'm sure Chip understood what I was saying and I'm sure he tried to communicate with Japan. Yet it took no less than 15 years (!) for Yaesu to implement the fix in production. Why Elecraft would have done it in a matter of hours! The really strange thing to me is that most Japanese companies are zealous practitioners of Deming, kaizen, etc all of which stress the importance of meeting customer needs and applying that to continuous process improvement. Something was badly broken inside the Yaesu company somewhere. I'll leave you with a favorite quote from Wayne N6KR...it's paraphrased since I can't find the exact reference: "It's possible for engineers to understand customers' comments and ignore them...except around here." This is truly what sets the company apart and ahead of all others. 73, Bill W4ZV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Just Say No.
This is really off topic...but here goes. First of all please don't try to question our patriotism, if you aren't then please accept my apology for that comment. Secondly, IMHO the option of choosing between number one and number two just couldn't happen (I realize you said "what if"---but we could also say "what if pigs could fly" -- they just can't -- except on another list, of course :) ) The reason it can't happen is because ever since that little experiment in Russia failed (Communism) the world has turn to a global society based upon Capitalism (even China is embracing it, to a certain extent). The rules of capitalism would call for the prices of item one and two to be pretty darned close, if the quality of the two were comparable. If not, the better quality product would disappear due to its price point being too high OR the lesser quality product would go by the wayside because people would see it for what it is (a piece of junk not worth the buying no matter how appealing the price might be.) Before this disappearing act happened though, the product which saw its sales go down would either A) in the case of the better product, cut its production costs (and quality) to become price competitive or B) in the case of the lesser quality product, makes itself a better quality product but find the need to raise its price due to added production costs. However, the hypothesis posted here seems to be saying the quality is the same...OK. Take a ride on any major U.S. highway and tell me how many foreign built automobiles you see there...quite a few, I think you'd agree. These cars are more or less comparably priced with American built cars in the same class, because that is the price the market will bear. (Let's assume for now that they are comparably built also...we won't get into that discussion). Be assured that the price of those foreign cars is being set by the marketplace. How can we be so sure? Because of the fact that they are set in U.S. dollars and being built with (say) the Euro (we'll buy a European car). Did you ever stop and think why the prices of foreign autos has not skyrocketed with the recent dramatic fall of the US dollar versus other currencies? It's because the market can't bear it. When the Euro and the Dollar were (more or less) on a par with each, a one dollar sale raised 1 Euro. Today a one sale yields about 0.67 Euros. The German manufacturer (I decided on a Mercedes :) ) is getting less money (in Euros) than he was, although the price here in the States has stayed pretty constant (in dollars). So why doesn't he raise his price?...well, he can't because no one will spend that much for his product. OK, so how is he able to sell the cars ... A) because he was making a lot of profit based on what the Capitalistic market will allow him to charge in the past (having not much to do with what it cost him to build the thing) and now his profit is more in line or B) he can't and he will raise his prices, be less competitive and probably lose a lot of his market share to the American built cars (this is why the Fed is encouraging the dollar to drop against foreign currencies---to discourage foreign trade with the US (making home built products more attractive to US purchasers) and to encourage US exports (things are really "cheap" in the eyes of the person buying things in Euros, etc.). ) So I think this original post gets back to patriotism and those bumper stickers that say "Buy American" and all which that implies. I'm an American, all things being equal I buy American, but the question posted here is moot, because Capitalism works and we're darn lucky to have it. Tom WB2QDG Note to Eric -- please pull this thread its *REALLY* OT. - Original Message - From: "S Sacco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Just Say No. If, for the sake of argument (and this IS just a "what if" exercise, after all), they COULD make a K3 somewhere else at a lower cost, and offered you a choice: 1) U.S. made K3 with a collection of options that costs $2,500 or 2) "Somewhere else" made K3 with the same options that costs $1,500. (Again, I'm making that number up). Which would you choose? If you chose #2, here's another question: Would you ever spend more for the identical unit made in the U.S.? If so, how much more? I'm very happy to have them here in the U.S., even if that means acknowledging that California IS part of it. :-) 73, Steve NN4X On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:06 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In a message dated 2/29/08 8:08:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > it was made in China? > No. Justno. 73 de Jim, N2EY ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598)
Re: [Elecraft] Just Say No.
Jon -- Well said :) Tom wb2qdg - Original Message - From: "Jon K Hellan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "S Sacco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Just Say No. S Sacco wrote: If you chose #2, here's another question: Would you ever spend more for the identical unit made in the U.S.? If so, how much more? Certainly not. I don't care in *which* foreigh country it is made :-) 73 LA4RT Jon, Trondheim, Norway ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Another one on order
We absolutely make K3s in the U.S. (In Aptos and Monterey, CA.) We do not plan on taking K3 manufacturing off shore. Period. We are well below the capacity of our current line and it is increasing output each month. :-) Off-shoring the K3 would -not- significantly reduce our costs in the relatively low monthly volumes needed for the HF amateur market. (We're nowhere near plasma TV or other consumer volumes.) Our raw parts already come from all over the world and are bought in volume. It would introduce a huge risk for quality control and would way overload our resources bringing up a new off shore line, which can take 6 to 18 months to get fully rolling.. (I've been there in one of my previous Silicon Valley lives. :-) Keeping manufacturing close allows us to be tightly focused, react quickly and keep our quality high. Much like the immediate (and sometimes overwhelming ;-) feedback we get from the Elecraft list. 73, Eric WA6HHQ _..._ -Original Message- From: "Jerry Keller (K3BZ)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Saturday, Mar 1, 2008 4:48 am Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Another one on order To: "Bill W4ZV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill... not that it makes any real difference to the point you were making but it's David and Goliath. Anyway, I have a K3 on order for all the reasons you gave and at least one more I've been under the impression that Elecraft's products are "made in the USA". But some comments here on the reflector have made me wonder how true that is... do you happen to know? 73, Jerry K3BZ - Original Message - From: "Bill W4ZV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 7:16 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Another one on order Walter Gilles wrote: > ItÂs about the Elecraft team, and how they run their business. It has to do with the passion they exhibit for what they do, the integrity with which they execute their enterprise, and the collaborative quality of their customers experience. > I own transceivers from the big three offshore manufacturers  Kenwood, Icom and Yaesu. I like what I have, but I might as well have purchased them from a vending machine. > You hit the nail on the head Walter! You're buying more than a product...you're buying part of a company named Elecraft. I had to chuckle when I saw the following on the IC-7800 list: VA7OJ: "One cannot really compare the Elecraft and Icom R&D operations in any meaningful way. In the test-equipment world, Wavetek vs. HP/Agilent or R&S might be a reasonable comparison." Forgetting the supercilious tone, I have news for Adam. Indeed you cannot compare the operations in any meaningful way. The customer responsiveness of the Elecraft team is about 100 dB better than Icom will ever be. I have the privilege of being on the K3 Field Test team and their engineering talent and responsiveness is even more awesome than you can imagine. I've seen fixes to fairly complex issues implemented in a matter of hours (the hardware AGC issue comes to mind). There truly is no comparison to the customer focus and responsiveness of the two companies. The most recent question from Wayne on this list regarding the K3's I/II function being a very good example. I don't recall ever seeing any request for direct customer input from l'Icom. I wonder if Adam has ever head the story of his namesake and Goliath? I've also had the privilege of working for Hewlett-Packard (Test & Measurement side) for ~30 years. Elecraft very much reminds me of the passionate company under Bill and ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Just Say No.
Somebody once said "Don't let patriotism get in the way of a good decision" or words that effect. I think they were talking about the "Buy America Act." Whatever happened to that? My $ are going to Elecraft - a foreign company. David G3UNA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Just Say No.
Geez! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom McCulloch Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 9:54 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Just Say No. This is really off topic...but here goes. First of all please don't try to question our patriotism, if you aren't then please accept my apology for that comment. Secondly, IMHO the option of choosing between number one and number two just couldn't happen (I realize you said "what if"---but we could also say "what if pigs could fly" -- they just can't -- except on another list, of course :) ) The reason it can't happen is because ever since that little experiment in Russia failed (Communism) the world has turn to a global society based upon Capitalism (even China is embracing it, to a certain extent). The rules of capitalism would call for the prices of item one and two to be pretty darned close, if the quality of the two were comparable. If not, the better quality product would disappear due to its price point being too high OR the lesser quality product would go by the wayside because people would see it for what it is (a piece of junk not worth the buying no matter how appealing the price might be.) Before this disappearing act happened though, the product which saw its sales go down would either A) in the case of the better product, cut its production costs (and quality) to become price competitive or B) in the case of the lesser quality product, makes itself a better quality product but find the need to raise its price due to added production costs. However, the hypothesis posted here seems to be saying the quality is the same...OK. Take a ride on any major U.S. highway and tell me how many foreign built automobiles you see there...quite a few, I think you'd agree. These cars are more or less comparably priced with American built cars in the same class, because that is the price the market will bear. (Let's assume for now that they are comparably built also...we won't get into that discussion). Be assured that the price of those foreign cars is being set by the marketplace. How can we be so sure? Because of the fact that they are set in U.S. dollars and being built with (say) the Euro (we'll buy a European car). Did you ever stop and think why the prices of foreign autos has not skyrocketed with the recent dramatic fall of the US dollar versus other currencies? It's because the market can't bear it. When the Euro and the Dollar were (more or less) on a par with each, a one dollar sale raised 1 Euro. Today a one sale yields about 0.67 Euros. The German manufacturer (I decided on a Mercedes :) ) is getting less money (in Euros) than he was, although the price here in the States has stayed pretty constant (in dollars). So why doesn't he raise his price?...well, he can't because no one will spend that much for his product. OK, so how is he able to sell the cars ... A) because he was making a lot of profit based on what the Capitalistic market will allow him to charge in the past (having not much to do with what it cost him to build the thing) and now his profit is more in line or B) he can't and he will raise his prices, be less competitive and probably lose a lot of his market share to the American built cars (this is why the Fed is encouraging the dollar to drop against foreign currencies---to discourage foreign trade with the US (making home built products more attractive to US purchasers) and to encourage US exports (things are really "cheap" in the eyes of the person buying things in Euros, etc.). ) So I think this original post gets back to patriotism and those bumper stickers that say "Buy American" and all which that implies. I'm an American, all things being equal I buy American, but the question posted here is moot, because Capitalism works and we're darn lucky to have it. Tom WB2QDG Note to Eric -- please pull this thread its *REALLY* OT. - Original Message - From: "S Sacco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Just Say No. > If, for the sake of argument (and this IS just a "what if" exercise, > after all), they COULD make a K3 somewhere else at a lower cost, and > offered you a choice: > > 1) U.S. made K3 with a collection of options that costs $2,500 > > or > > 2) "Somewhere else" made K3 with the same options that costs $1,500. > (Again, I'm making that number up). > > Which would you choose? > > If you chose #2, here's another question: Would you ever spend more > for the identical unit made in the U.S.? If so, how much more? > > I'm very happy to have them here in the U.S., even if that means > acknowledging that California IS part of it. :-) > > 73, > > Steve NN4X > > > > On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:06 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> In a message dated 2/29/08 8:08:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> >>
[Elecraft] Help! K3 data exit?
I need reflector help! I love my K3 but it seems to be smarter than I am. Earlier this week I was working PSK-31 on 10 and 15 meters. Now with the contest this weekend, I want to work USB on those bands but the K3 is in DATA Mode and I can't figure out how to exit and get USB back on 15 and 10 meters. I've read the operating manual about primary controls on page 13 and about DATA Modes on page 31 but still find no reference to how to exit. I figure it must be simple but it sure has me stumped. Can anyone help? I'd sure appreciate it! 73, "H" Cary, K4TM K3-100 #178 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Another one on order
Well, Chip is certainly a "real ham", but obviously nobody in a decision making capacity was listening to him. But the same is true to one extent or another with ICOM and Kenwood. Too many layers of management that aren't real hams and have other agenda. They send suits to Dayton but I don't see a lot of callsigns. Elecraft has real hams at the top, customers can talk directly to them, and ham radio is their only business. I'm thankful they also seem to have a good grasp of quality principles. By the way, look where Chip is now8^) 73, Jerry K3BZ - Original Message - From: "Bill Tippett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jerry Keller (K3BZ)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Another one on order On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Jerry Keller (K3BZ) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't think it's a "language barrier" that keeps the Big 3 from taking an accurate pulse of the amateur community... at least not in this country. Nowadays they each have plenty of English speakers in their management. But do they have real hams doing their design work? Do they have real hams getting real-time feedback from the users? Probably not so much. As you point out, that is what makes Elecraft really special we knows 'em, and they is us. Sadly I think it's more than that. I believe it's more a case of the "big company" syndrome. Customer feedback gets lost in the process. My personal example is Yaesu and the infamous FT-1000 family's key clicks. I spoke to Chip K7JA who was then their main USA contact many times about this issue. I'm sure Chip understood what I was saying and I'm sure he tried to communicate with Japan. Yet it took no less than 15 years (!) for Yaesu to implement the fix in production. Why Elecraft would have done it in a matter of hours! The really strange thing to me is that most Japanese companies are zealous practitioners of Deming, kaizen, etc all of which stress the importance of meeting customer needs and applying that to continuous process improvement. Something was badly broken inside the Yaesu company somewhere. I'll leave you with a favorite quote from Wayne N6KR...it's paraphrased since I can't find the exact reference: "It's possible for engineers to understand customers' comments and ignore them...except around here." This is truly what sets the company apart and ahead of all others. 73, Bill W4ZV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Unsubscribing - I've finally had enough.
Hi, everyone. The subject line probably says it all. It has gotten to the point that I can't hit the delete button fast enough, even when I don't read the messages. When I first got my KX1 several years ago, the reflector was still a resource for building kits and troubleshooting them. Nowadays it seems to be nothing but a way to announce one's general discontent with everything from Elecraft's perceived problems (they aren't perfect, but if all my vendors at work were one tenth as good, I wouldn't have ANY problems), to dissertations on capitalism and isolationism vs. globalism. I'm not sure where the ham radio content went, but since I can't seem to find much of it anymore, I'll wish everyone well and spend my time elsewhere. See you on the air. Rick, WD8KEL ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Just Say No.
What affects as all as Radio Amateurs is the increased level of EMI caused by household items that include Switched Mode PSU's. Within the EU these "should" have been tested to the relevant EMC standards. It is very apparent that there are a large number of devices which are either defective, or have never been tested for EMC compliance. China is top of the league table for SM PSU's which cause interference to radio services. In a large number of their power supplies, components that were designed in to reduce emissions have been omitted in manufacture for economic expediency. For this reason, and not any Political motive, I avoid buying any Chinese electronic products. 73 Stewart G3RXQ Member RSGB EMC Committee On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 09:53:51 -0500, Tom McCulloch wrote: > This is really off topic...but here goes. > > First of all please don't try to question our patriotism, if you aren't then > please accept my apology for that comment. > > Secondly, IMHO the option of choosing between number one and number two just > couldn't happen (I realize you said "what if"---but we could also say "what > if pigs could fly" -- they just can't -- except on another list, of course > :) ) > > The reason it can't happen is because ever since that little experiment in > Russia failed (Communism) the world has turn to a global society based upon > Capitalism (even China is embracing it, to a certain extent). > > The rules of capitalism would call for the prices of item one and two to be > pretty darned close, if the quality of the two were comparable. If not, the > better quality product would disappear due to its price point being too high > OR the lesser quality product would go by the wayside because people would > see it for what it is (a piece of junk not worth the buying no matter how > appealing the price might be.) Before this disappearing act happened > though, the product which saw its sales go down would either A) in the case > of the better product, cut its production costs (and quality) to become > price competitive or B) in the case of the lesser quality product, makes > itself a better quality product but find the need to raise its price due to > added production costs. > > However, the hypothesis posted here seems to be saying the quality is the > same...OK. Take a ride on any major U.S. highway and tell me how many > foreign built automobiles you see there...quite a few, I think you'd agree. > These cars are more or less comparably priced with American built cars in > the same class, because that is the price the market will bear. (Let's > assume for now that they are comparably built also...we won't get into that > discussion). Be assured that the price of those foreign cars is being set > by the marketplace. How can we be so sure? Because of the fact that they > are set in U.S. dollars and being built with (say) the Euro (we'll buy a > European car). Did you ever stop and think why the prices of foreign autos > has not skyrocketed with the recent dramatic fall of the US dollar versus > other currencies? It's because the market can't bear it. When the Euro and > the Dollar were (more or less) on a par with each, a one dollar sale raised > 1 Euro. Today a one sale yields about 0.67 Euros. The German manufacturer > (I decided on a Mercedes :) ) is getting less money (in Euros) than he > was, although the price here in the States has stayed pretty constant (in > dollars). So why doesn't he raise his price?...well, he can't because no > one will spend that much for his product. OK, so how is he able to sell the > cars ... A) because he was making a lot of profit based on what the > Capitalistic market will allow him to charge in the past (having not much to > do with what it cost him to build the thing) and now his profit is more in > line or B) he can't and he will raise his prices, be less competitive and > probably lose a lot of his market share to the American built cars (this is > why the Fed is encouraging the dollar to drop against foreign > currencies---to discourage foreign trade with the US (making home built > products more attractive to US purchasers) and to encourage US exports > (things are really "cheap" in the eyes of the person buying things in Euros, > etc.). ) > > So I think this original post gets back to patriotism and those bumper > stickers that say "Buy American" and all which that implies. > > I'm an American, all things being equal I buy American, but the question > posted here is moot, because Capitalism works and we're darn lucky to have > it. > > Tom > WB2QDG > > Note to Eric -- please pull this thread its *REALLY* OT. > > > - Original Message - > From: "S Sacco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 8:53 AM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Just Say No. > > >> If, for the sake of argument (and this IS just a "what if" exercise, >> after all), they COULD make a K3 somewhere else at a lower cost, and >> offered you a choice: >> >> 1) U.S. m
Re: [Elecraft] Just Say No.
-Original Message- My $ are going to Elecraft - a foreign company. David G3UNA And we really appreciate it! Based on our daily shipments ( and incoming phone calls and emails) we are supporting a world wide international customer base as a signicant percentage of our business. K3s are now all over the world! To just name just a few from the last several weeks: All of Eu, Canada, Ukraine, Russia, Poland, JA, TI, South Africa, Thailand, VK, ZL, Hong Kong, Mexico and even uninhabited islands like VP6DX!) To be successful in today's marketplace we -have- to continually think on a global basis. With the Internet communications channel, our direct customers are everywhere. - And they treat us like we are next door. (Though some forget we have to sleep once and a while and live in a different time zone.. ;-) 73, Eric WA6HHQ _..._ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ICOM ProIII price reductions // "The K3 Effect"
ProIII's can now be had for as little as $2384.10. I guess we could call it "The K3 Effect"? As always, it's interesting watching the market reactions to new gear. I would think that the reduction of the P3 is rather traditional marketing. As a product ages...and/OR nears it's end of life, a manufacturer brings the product to a wider audience ... one that can spend less...first get the big spenders, then bring the price down to the "masses" .. it is a ton of radio for $2300.( enjoyed mine) We did that with the TASCAM "portastudio" 20 years ago. First you use some coupons, then just reduce the price...sell boxes ,sell sell bill K3 ASSEMBLY PIX @ http://picasaweb.google.com/Bill.SteffeySr/K3 NY9H STATION PIX @ http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1771119&a=13683578&p=75658236&f=0 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Help! K3 data exit?
"H", Have you tapped the MODE button - it should switch between data, SSB, CW, and AM. If you come up with the wrong sideband on a particular band, hole the ALT button to change sidebands. The DATA mode setup buttons and menu entries switch between the various types of data mode (DATA A, DATA D. etc.) 73, Don W3FPR H. Cary III wrote: I need reflector help! I love my K3 but it seems to be smarter than I am. Earlier this week I was working PSK-31 on 10 and 15 meters. Now with the contest this weekend, I want to work USB on those bands but the K3 is in DATA Mode and I can't figure out how to exit and get USB back on 15 and 10 meters. I've read the operating manual about primary controls on page 13 and about DATA Modes on page 31 but still find no reference to how to exit. I figure it must be simple but it sure has me stumped. Can anyone help? I'd sure appreciate it! 73, "H" Cary, K4TM K3-100 #178 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Just Say No. [END of Thread]
Let's end this thread before it takes on a life of its own;-) Eric _..._ -Original Message- To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Just Say No. This is really off topic...but here goes. First of all please don't try to question our patriotism, if you aren't then please accept my apology for that comment. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Unsubscribing - I've finally had enough.
Rick Hampton-2 wrote: > > > The subject line probably says it all. It has gotten to the point that > I can't hit the delete button fast enough, even when I don't read the > messages. > > Good grief. For anyone who feels like Rick, here's a simple way to read only Subjects that interest you, never receive a single email, and reply in context to any that interest you: 1. Subscribe to the list at http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft (if you're getting emails now you've already done this step) 2. After confirming your subscription, enter your address at the very bottom of the same page above. You'll be asked for your password on the next page so there's also a way to recall it if necessary. 3. On the page that appears after step 2, scroll down to "Mail Delivery" and check the "Disabled" box, scroll to the bottom and click "Submit My Changes". 4. Now go to the Nabble-Elecraft list here and subscribe: http://www.nabble.com/Elecraft-f28632.html 5. Click on only the Subjects that interest you and click Reply if you want to respond. Your message will be in context with the message you are responding to. There is simply NO reason for anyone to be frustrated if they take 5 minutes to do the above. No emails, choose only Subjects you want to read and reply in context. What could be simpler? 73, Bill W4ZV -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Unsubscribing---I%27ve-finally-had-enough.-tp15777037p15777354.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter presets I/II: present and futurefunctionality
Les, WB6MND wrote: I would like to be able to return to fixed settings that I program and are stored. That way I always have a familiar starting point that works best in most situations, but that I can adjust further to customize for the particular signal I'm listening to. With the current setup, I feel I get lost and can't return to a familiar place. Me too. And thanks for asking, Wayne. 73 to all Geoff G3UCK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Ducie Island - ARRL News Letter Excerpt
They said "The outstanding receiver and transmitter characteristics allowed us to run two positions simultaneously on any band -- even the very narrow 30 meter band -- with absolutely no interference. Good design makes the complex appear simple: the ins and outs of this sophisticated radio were quickly mastered by the operator team, none of whom had seen a K3 before the expedition." I think an important item to remember from the Ducie site: ""..7 stations on Ducie Island. Most (if not all) will have a KW amplifier."" Same bandrunning a KW ! that adds a bit of DBs to the island. bill ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 VFO slave mode suggestion
Sorry if I missed this in the K3 manual I have sometimes thought it would be useful to slave the B VFO to the A VFO. For example, changing VFO A would also change B an equal amount; but changing B would have no effect on A. I think it would be handy to operate split this way on the K3, with its two VFO knobs, during contests and such. I guess that is what RIT and XIT are for but they have always seemed a bit clumsy to me on the K2 (don't have a K3 yet). Anyhow, if this doesn't exist on the K3 I'd like to suggest it. 73, Drew AF2Z ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Help! K3 data exit?
Don- I knew it was simple but it eluded me. Thanks, now in USB! 73, "H", K4TM -Original Message- From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:35 AM To: H. Cary III Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Help! K3 data exit? "H", Have you tapped the MODE button - it should switch between data, SSB, CW, and AM. If you come up with the wrong sideband on a particular band, hole the ALT button to change sidebands. The DATA mode setup buttons and menu entries switch between the various types of data mode (DATA A, DATA D. etc.) 73, Don W3FPR H. Cary III wrote: > I need reflector help! > I love my K3 but it seems to be smarter than I am. Earlier this week I was > working PSK-31 on 10 and 15 meters. Now with the contest this weekend, I > want to work USB on those bands but the K3 is in DATA Mode and I can't figure > out how to exit and get USB back on 15 and 10 meters. I've read the > operating manual about primary controls on page 13 and about DATA Modes on > page 31 but still find no reference to how to exit. > I figure it must be simple but it sure has me stumped. > Can anyone help? I'd sure appreciate it! > 73, > "H" Cary, K4TM > K3-100 #178 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO slave mode suggestion
This feature is in the next K3 firmware release which is in field test right now. (Though I think they are linked both ways.) 73, Eric WA6HHQ _..._ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have sometimes thought it would be useful to slave the B VFO to the A VFO. For example, changing VFO A would also change B an equal amount; but changing B would have no effect on A. I think it would be handy to operate split this way on the K3, with its two VFO knobs, during contests and such. I guess that is what RIT and XIT are for but they have always seemed a bit clumsy to me on the K2 (don't have a K3 yet). Anyhow, if this doesn't exist on the K3 I'd like to suggest it. 73, Drew AF2Z ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Unsubscribing - I've finally had enough.
Well said Rick, can the reflector please be a source of Elecraft info only? I too may have to unsubscribe if these ramblings continue. Jim K4JAF - Original Message - From: "Rick Hampton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 9:14 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Unsubscribing - I've finally had enough. Hi, everyone. The subject line probably says it all. It has gotten to the point that I can't hit the delete button fast enough, even when I don't read the messages. When I first got my KX1 several years ago, the reflector was still a resource for building kits and troubleshooting them. Nowadays it seems to be nothing but a way to announce one's general discontent with everything from Elecraft's perceived problems (they aren't perfect, but if all my vendors at work were one tenth as good, I wouldn't have ANY problems), to dissertations on capitalism and isolationism vs. globalism. I'm not sure where the ham radio content went, but since I can't seem to find much of it anymore, I'll wish everyone well and spend my time elsewhere. See you on the air. Rick, WD8KEL ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Ducie Island - ARRL News Letter Excerpt
Yes, but, the antennas were some distance apart and they had very good filters in their antennas. "Don't try this at home..." unless you have a similar set up. David G3UNA They said "The outstanding receiver and transmitter characteristics allowed us to run two positions simultaneously on any band -- even the very narrow 30 meter band -- with absolutely no interference. Good design makes the complex appear simple: the ins and outs of this sophisticated radio were quickly mastered by the operator team, none of whom had seen a K3 before the expedition." I think an important item to remember from the Ducie site: ""..7 stations on Ducie Island. Most (if not all) will have a KW amplifier."" Same bandrunning a KW ! that adds a bit of DBs to the island. bill ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Would This Power a K1 or KX1?
In case anyone missed this on QRP-L: http://www.thebackshed.com/Windmill/assemblyMini1.asp 73 de Jim, N2EY ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Unsubscribing - I've finally had enough.
On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Jim Cox wrote: Well said Rick, can the reflector please be a source of Elecraft info only? I too may have to unsubscribe if these ramblings continue. Jim K4JAF One would think that since the mailing list is owned by Elecraft, they can police the listas we've seen several times when Eric has called for an end to a particular thread. 73 k3hrn Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Unsubscribing - I've finally had enough.
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Jim Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well said Rick, can the reflector please be a source of Elecraft info only? > I too may have to unsubscribe if these ramblings continue. > Jim K4JAF > > Yep, it's way too much. Fred has a nice general discussion forum on QRZ.COM for those who care to transmit hogwash. And any of us who might enjoy reading such ramblings could simply go over there each time after we check here for Elecraft traffic. That would sure make this place more "professional" looking. Dave W5DHM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Unsubscribing - I've finally had enough. (END of THIS Thread.)
Gentlemen, Lets end THIS thread. Its generating more noise than necessary. Also, I already ended the other thread in question this morning, shortly after it began. It usually echoes for a couple of more postings before everyone reads my END message.. 73, EricWA6HHQ Elecraft List Moderator, playground monitor, arbitrator and company COO. ;-) _..._ Dave Martin wrote: On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Jim Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well said Rick, can the reflector please be a source of Elecraft info only? I too may have to unsubscribe if these ramblings continue. Jim K4JAF Yep, it's way too much. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: Portable Antennae
Ken wrote: >...I would like to construct a good portable antennae to use while camping I have played around with multi-band HF antennas for camping and backpacking for more than 30 years. I've tried resonant dipoles with and without traps, untuned dipoles fed with balanced line, simple and complex verticals, fed-fed wires, etc. I have never found anything that works as well as the least-expensive of the above...the resonant dipole. I have never found anything that works as poorly as verticals. Portable verticals, lacking a very good ground system, are very poor in performance compared to a dipole, if a side-by-side comparison at the same site and the same time is done. Outrageously priced vertical "dummy loads," such as those produced under the "Outbacker" name (with that bogus "ground coupling" base) are among the very worst. Most (or all) commercial vertical offerings allow the waste of hundreds of dollars to prove that contacts can still be made using the poorest of antenna systems. For the past 20 years I've used a dipole with appropriate insulators located in each leg that can be jumpered to get a resonant dipole, without traps, on any band between 40m and 10m. I use PCV water tubing for the insulators, and flex- or super-weave wire that has withstood many set-up/take-down cycles without the first sign of wire fatique failure. It takes less than a minute to lower the antenna and alter the jumpers to change band. I have worked more than 40 countries from camp sites using this antenna less than 10 feet above ground. I can send anyone interested a small .pdf file that describes all the details and dimensions. It's all quickly home-made at very low cost. Mike / KK5F ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] [K3] SPEED/MIC and CMP/PWR Controls
When I tap one of the above, the VFO B display shows the relevant current setting but if I change it and then tap either control again, the display remains on whatever display is set up for VFO B by the DISP button. (i.e does not show the current setting for either parameter on either control). However if I wait for about 30 secs and tap either control again, the relevant current setting is shown again. This is not a problem but I'm wondering why. 73 to all Geoff G3UCK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: Portable Antennae
Hey Mike: I would love to get the PDF with the info. This sounds exactly like what I am looking for. Thanks! Ken/NO4D Mike Morrow wrote: Ken wrote: ...I would like to construct a good portable antennae to use while camping I have played around with multi-band HF antennas for camping and backpacking for more than 30 years. I've tried resonant dipoles with and without traps, untuned dipoles fed with balanced line, simple and complex verticals, fed-fed wires, etc. I have never found anything that works as well as the least-expensive of the above...the resonant dipole. I have never found anything that works as poorly as verticals. Portable verticals, lacking a very good ground system, are very poor in performance compared to a dipole, if a side-by-side comparison at the same site and the same time is done. Outrageously priced vertical "dummy loads," such as those produced under the "Outbacker" name (with that bogus "ground coupling" base) are among the very worst. Most (or all) commercial vertical offerings allow the waste of hundreds of dollars to prove that contacts can still be made using the poorest of antenna systems. For the past 20 years I've used a dipole with appropriate insulators located in each leg that can be jumpered to get a resonant dipole, without traps, on any band between 40m and 10m. I use PCV water tubing for the insulators, and flex- or super-weave wire that has withstood many set-up/take-down cycles without the first sign of wire fatique failure. It takes less than a minute to lower the antenna and alter the jumpers to change band. I have worked more than 40 countries from camp sites using this antenna less than 10 feet above ground. I can send anyone interested a small .pdf file that describes all the details and dimensions. It's all quickly home-made at very low cost. Mike / KK5F ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Portable Antenna - Thanks!
Thanks to all who responded to my question about a portable antenna for use with camping. I received to many responses to reply to each one individually...but THANKS for a lot of great ideas. There are a couple that I will be mulling over. 73 & God Bless! Ken/NO4D ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Unsubscribing - I've finally had enough. (END of THIS Thread.)
Sorry, 'scuse my ignorance, but what's a company COO. ? 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 08:45:35 -0800, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ Elecraft wrote: > Gentlemen, > > Lets end THIS thread. Its generating more noise than necessary. > > Also, I already ended the other thread in question this morning, shortly > after it began. It usually echoes for a couple of more postings before > everyone reads my END message.. > > 73, EricWA6HHQ > Elecraft List Moderator, playground monitor, arbitrator and company > COO. -) > > _..._ > > > Dave Martin wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Jim Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Well said Rick, can the reflector please be a source of Elecraft info only? >>> I too may have to unsubscribe if these ramblings continue. >>> Jim K4JAF >>> >> Yep, it's way too much. >> > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Unsubscribing - I've finally had enough. (END of THIS Thread.)
[C]hief [O]perating [O]officer. 73, Tom N0SS At 11:33 03/01/2008, Stewart Baker wrote: Sorry, 'scuse my ignorance, but what's a company COO. ? 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 08:45:35 -0800, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ Elecraft wrote: > Gentlemen, > > Lets end THIS thread. Its generating more noise than necessary. > > Also, I already ended the other thread in question this morning, shortly > after it began. It usually echoes for a couple of more postings before > everyone reads my END message.. > > 73, EricWA6HHQ > Elecraft List Moderator, playground monitor, arbitrator and company > COO. -) > > _..._ > > > Dave Martin wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Jim Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Well said Rick, can the reflector please be a source of Elecraft info only? >>> I too may have to unsubscribe if these ramblings continue. >>> Jim K4JAF >>> >> Yep, it's way too much. >> > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] k2 ordered today
ive been without a elecraft radio for to long so to day ive orderd a k2 with nb, ssb , 160m , kat2 atu i would like a k3 i will have to save up for one no credit cards here only cash thiis will be my forth k2 the best portable radio ive ever had keep up the good work elecraft chris g0wfh :-) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Fine/Coarse VFO settings
Thanks Jim! This split issue has been listed and Wayne is working it. It's not in the release that is in testing now but should not be far behind. You're right about the CAT commands. The K3 needs to send a different mode report for FSK and PSK direct modes other than data so that devices like the MicroKeyers and Navigators as well as digital mode programs know the difference. You're dead on thoughafter the sub receiver is done. 73 Greg AB7R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James Denneny Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 6:02 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Fine/Coarse VFO settings Eric / Wayne - This may be pilot error on my part as I have only had the radio a few days but I noted a nuisance issue during the ARRL SSB DX Contest. I was operating split vfo on 40M. Both VFO's were set to fine tune. I decided to switch vfo B to coarse so I could qsy rapidly to an announced qrg frequency above 7125. I discovered if I set vfo B to coarse tune that vfo A also switches to coarse tune. It would be slick if the firmware enabled independent switching of vfo A or Vfo B to fine/coarse. That would enable fine tuning for stations on vfo A while coarse tuning vfo B in split operation. I realize it is possible to enter vfo B freq from keypad but that would be awkward and a hassle in an ssb contest situation on 40M. I also hope that as soon as the second receiver design issues settle that Wayne will be able to produce the complete programmers reference manual. My Microham Microkeyer has the hiccups with the K3 in some modes. Thanks for your consideration 73 Jim K7EG ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 vfo coarse/fine setting
Jim: Yes, I "discovered" the exact same thing, even though this is clearly spelled out in the manual. My suggestion: Rather than "dialing in" the split freq on 40m, do this: Switch to VFO B (vfo A/B button) and then ENTER the discrete frequency using the keypad. I think you will find that for the majority of the cases, this is simply WAY faster than dialing it in. This is old news in terms of approach. Way back when (20 years ago?) when we were using TS940's at a multi-multi, we had two rigs per band. The guy next to me wanted to "dial in" the split qrg and complained about. I simply did the keypad thing...and I beat him there every time...with room to spare. It just just much, much faster than dialing in, unless the "new" QRG you're going to is just a few kc away from the last split QRG. Yes, it is true that you "stop hearing" the DX while you do this, but so what. The important measurement is TOTAL TIME to be ready to call him - and it really serves no purpose to continue to hear the other guy if you can't call him any way (cuz ur not on his listening QRG yet). To be honest, during this weekend, I have been playing with the coarse/non-coarse button and "dialing in" just to see how it plays (I'm still learning the radio in terms of optimal efficiency for MY style of operation...and I'm not afraid to try different things). Actually, pushing the button to get to coarse, then dialing in, and then hitting the button again (to get back to non-coarse) doesn't take that much time. What DOES take time is then dialing in the last couple kc when back on non-coarse. Direct keypad entry is really the only way to go for top efficiency. And I am NOT calling the button "coarse/fine" because we sure do NOT want to be in FINE MODE (1 HZ steps). :-) Give it a try! de Doug KR2Q ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 - Another one on order
Jerry, > Thanks, Bill When you get down to the component level > or even the board level I'm sure much has to sourced > offshore. When you are talking about board level contract manufacturing, the costs for "on shore" vs. "off shore" are nearly identical. Since the equipment is the same regardless of location and automated manufacturing requires so little unskilled labor the only real cost advantage off shore is real estate lower environmental standards which are generally lost doe to the significantly higher transportation and logistics costs. 73, ... Joe, W4TV > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry > Keller (K3BZ) > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 9:31 AM > To: Bill Tippett; elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Another one on order > > > Thanks, Bill When you get down to the component level > or even the > board level I'm sure much has to sourced offshore. Even > if we could > afford what Elecraft would have to pay for onshore labor > costs to build > those boards, I doubt that the skills are adequately > available here anymore. > So of course I meant the the final assembly of the "factory > assembled" K3 > units. I'm glad to hear it's all done in California. (And as > kits, in home > workshops around the globe) > I don't think it's a "language barrier" that keeps the Big 3 > from taking an > accurate pulse of the amateur community... at least not in > this country. > Nowadays they each have plenty of English speakers in their > management. But > do they have real hams doing their design work? Do they have > real hams > getting real-time feedback from the users? Probably not so > much. As you > point out, that is what makes Elecraft really special we > knows 'em, and > they is us. > 73, Jerry K3BZ > > - Original Message - > From: "Bill Tippett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Jerry Keller (K3BZ)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 9:05 AM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Another one on order > > > > Hi Jerry, > > > > On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:42 AM, Jerry Keller (K3BZ) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Bill... not that it makes any real difference to the point you were > >> making but it's David and Goliath. > > > > Yes, too early and I corrected that...was thinking of David KY1V. > > > > Anyway, I have a K3 on order for all > >> the reasons you gave and at least one more I've been under the > >> impression that Elecraft's products are "made in the > USA". But some > >> comments here on the reflector have made me wonder how > true that is... > >> do > >> you happen to know? > > > > Since most Elecraft products are kits, they are actually "made" > > everywhere (by the kit builder). If you mean the components inside > > them, I'm sure they're sourced from many places. It would be very > > difficult to find parts if you stipulated that all must > come from the > > USA. I've been on the list since I built a K2 about 4 years ago but > > haven't noticed many comments about this...maybe I just > wasn't paying > > attention. I'm fairly sure Elecraft does all final test > and assembly > > of the K3 in Aptos, outsources SMD board-stuffing (not sure to whom) > > and the components come from everywhere. What matters most to me is > > where the products are designed (i.e. the real value-added > in today's > > world). > > > > I believe the 3 American companies (Elecraft, Flex and Ten-Tec) have > > the business model of the future (which may apply to many > other areas > > besides ham radio): > > > > 1. Distribute directly instead of via distributors...thereby saving > > significant costs (somewhat like Dell did with PCs). > > > > 2. Make heavy use of the Internet as a tool for customer feedback, > > firmware updates, building customer loyalty, etc. > > > > 3. Listen to customers intently and respond promptly (this is the > > real key to success IMHO). > > > > 4. Enable other companies to facilitate your own success. N8LP's > > LP-PAN and VE3NEA's CW Skimmer are going to have a **huge** > impact on > > the success of the K3. I truly doubt that the Big-3 have the > > slightest comprehension of the impact this may have in strengthening > > the K3's success in the marketplace. > > > > It's a very simple but powerful model that the Big-3 have yet to > > figure out...probably influenced by their language barrier. By the > > time they figure it out, the world may have vastly changed on them. > > > > 73, Bill W4ZV > > > > P.S. Copying to the list since others might have comments. > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraf
[Elecraft] FS: KBT-2 internal battery for K2
I am no longer in need of my assembled KBT-2 battery kit for the K2. I will ship it for $40 Dave N1IX ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3: coarse/fine for RIT
I tell you what drives me nuts is the speed (or lack of) for the RIT/XIT. While this is not linked to the coarse/fine button, it is linked to the VFO speed steps. Gosh...I want the VFO speed the way I have it set, but I want the RIT speed set much faster. If the guy says UP 1, it takes me over 2 fulls turns of the XIT knob to get there - yuck! And if he say up 2...oh my - 5 turns. :-( On the plus side, I understand that the "fix" for this is also in the works (at least I hope so). :-) de Doug KR2Q K3: A great radio and only getting better. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Eric -- Another life...
Eric, Quote: "another life.." !! Where do you get the time? 8^) -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Is this comment necessary?
"One would think that since the mailing list is owned by Elecraft, they can police the listas we've seen several times when Eric has called for an end to a particular thread." Kind people, What technical, ham radio-related or Elecraft-germane intelligence is conveyed above? It seems only an indictment of Elecraft for not policing its list better. Perhaps if Elecraft would police its list more then THAT cynical post would have been culled? And this one, too, one would think. Rick KC0OV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Data Mode CAT Reports (was: K3 Fine/Coarse VFO settings)
> You're right about the CAT commands. The K3 needs to send a > different mode report for FSK and PSK direct modes other than > data so that devices like the MicroKeyers and Navigators as > well as digital mode programs know the difference. You're dead > on thoughafter the sub receiver is done. For the record there are really two issues - First, the user software needs to distinguish between FSK and AFSK/FSK modes and be able to tell the sense or sideband. This is most easily accomplished by using the existing Kenwood FSK and FSK-R command response (MD and IF commands) for FSK-D (it appears that FSK-R is not available in the K3) and using the Yaesu FT-9000/FT-2000 extensions to the Kenwood command set for AFSK_A (8h = PKT_L [Norm], Ch = PKT_U [Rev]). This leaves Dh and Eh for DATA_A (Norm/DATA_U = Dh and Rev/Data_L = Eh) and Fh for PSK_D. It would also be helpful if the DATA_A display offset were made "user configurable" to allow choice of suppressed carrier, "MARK" or "center of modulation" based on convention for the most commonly used mode. The second concern is the input selection for FSK_D and PSK_D. Most software and some hardware (microHAM MK2R/MK2R+ and microKEYER II) suppress CW output when the radio is not in CW mode to prevent inadvertent keying if the paddles are bumped. It will be difficult for use "straight key" or KY command inputs with those configurations. 73, ... Joe, W4TV > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 1:10 PM > To: James Denneny; elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Fine/Coarse VFO settings > > > Thanks Jim! > > This split issue has been listed and Wayne is working it. > It's not in the > release that is in testing now but should not be far behind. > > You're right about the CAT commands. The K3 needs to send a > different mode > report for FSK and PSK direct modes other than data so that > devices like the > MicroKeyers and Navigators as well as digital mode programs know the > difference. You're dead on thoughafter the sub receiver is done. > > 73 > Greg > AB7R > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James Denneny > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 6:02 AM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Fine/Coarse VFO settings > > > Eric / Wayne - This may be pilot error on my part as I have > only had the > radio a few days but I noted a nuisance issue during the ARRL SSB DX > Contest. I was operating split vfo on 40M. Both VFO's were > set to fine > tune. I decided to switch vfo B to coarse so I could qsy > rapidly to an > announced qrg frequency above 7125. I discovered if I set > vfo B to coarse > tune that vfo A also switches to coarse tune. > > > > It would be slick if the firmware enabled independent > switching of vfo A or > Vfo B to fine/coarse. That would enable fine tuning for > stations on vfo A > while coarse tuning vfo B in split operation. I realize it > is possible to > enter vfo B freq from keypad but that would be awkward and a > hassle in an > ssb contest situation on 40M. > > > > I also hope that as soon as the second receiver design issues > settle that > Wayne will be able to produce the complete programmers > reference manual. My > Microham Microkeyer has the hiccups with the K3 in some modes. > > > > Thanks for your consideration > > > > 73 > > > > Jim > > K7EG > > > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Filter Presets I/II response
In response to Wayne's "poll": Yes, I definitely use them. I would prefer to have them 'fixed" (programmable) and independent for each mode. It would be nice to have settings I can go back to after diddling with shift/width or hi/lo cut. Oh, and by the way Wayne, while you're at it, can I please have RX EQ's per mode? Tnx es 72, Neal WA6OCP ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 solenoidal chokes
Hi I'm building my second K2 and have a question that I hope someone can help me with. I was missing some parts and ask the parts dept. to send them to me. Four of them were RFC-4, RFC-5, RFC-8, and RFC-9, all solelnoidal chokes on the RF board. The manual calls for them to have green bodies. The ones the parts dept. sent me have tan bodies, so I suspect they are not solenoidal chokes. They are of the correct value. My question is should I use the ones with tan bodies are have the Elecraft parts dept. try again? Thanks Scott N5SM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 solenoidal chokes
The color can be tan or green. Just make sure the color bands are correct. 73, EricWA6HHQ --- _..._ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'm building my second K2 and have a question that I hope someone can help me with. I was missing some parts and ask the parts dept. to send them to me. Four of them were RFC-4, RFC-5, RFC-8, and RFC-9, all solelnoidal chokes on the RF board. The manual calls for them to have green bodies. The ones the parts dept. sent me have tan bodies, so I suspect they are not solenoidal chokes. They are of the correct value. My question is should I use the ones with tan bodies are have the Elecraft parts dept. try again? Thanks Scott N5SM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 solenoidal chokes
Scott, Use what was sent. The body color is a poor method of identifying components because the manufacturer of the component can change the body color at the drop of a hat. The references to component body color is slowly being purged from the manuals, but that takes time. Be certain to read the errata sheet, sometimes information like that is covered in the errata. 73, Don W3FPR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'm building my second K2 and have a question that I hope someone can help me with. I was missing some parts and ask the parts dept. to send them to me. Four of them were RFC-4, RFC-5, RFC-8, and RFC-9, all solelnoidal chokes on the RF board. The manual calls for them to have green bodies. The ones the parts dept. sent me have tan bodies, so I suspect they are not solenoidal chokes. They are of the correct value. My question is should I use the ones with tan bodies are have the Elecraft parts dept. try again? Thanks Scott N5SM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] FS: KX1
Well, it breaks my heart, but I've got my K3, and I've now Pelican- cased my K2 to be my new portable rig, so it is time to sell the KX1. The details: KX1 4-band (80, 40, 30, 20) Serial #702 Built by an Electrical Engineer with extensive building experience and the proper tools - me :) Includes KXPD1 and the built-in autotuner At least 3W out on all bands with 13.8 VDC in S7 to S9 all bands with 50 microvolts in Built-in and working N0SS / K6XX CW spotter tied to the logbook LED (you can still turn it on as a logbook light if you need to :) Includes a fitted foam lined case (formerly a Preparation H box - not Pelican, but it works) and the Nifty! quick reference laminated guide Pics are available if desired. Price is $495 shipped anywhere in the USA (If I added right, just buying the kit parts would be $522 unassembled, not counting the CW spotter) Please contact me off list if interested. Thanks! - Bill K4DXU ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter presets I/II: present and future functionality
Wayne, I am mainly a sideband operator. I like and use the presets. I have preset "1" set for narrow filter and shifted for best audio. Preset "2" is set for a wider filter for rag chewing. I agree with the points made by WB6MND and so would also prefer fixed presets. When the QRM starts, you can quickly change to preset "1". It saves a bit of fiddling with the width and shift controls. I am eagerly awaiting the firmware change that will shift the filter centre (on SSB) as it is narrowed. This will make the filter adjustment on SSB way more convenient. The large change in audio level when switching the Noise reduction off (SSB mode) is sometimes deafening. I believe this is under review. 73 Tony Fegan VE3QF K3 #137 K2 #490 (sold to a good friend today. It will be missed) WB6MND wrote: Yes, I use the presets, and I agree with the field testers as to the change. I would like to be able to return to fixed settings that I program and are stored. That way I always have a familiar starting point that works best in most situations, but that I can adjust further to customize for the particular signal I'm listening to. With the current setup, I feel I get lost and can't return to a familiar place. Les WB6MND wayne burdick wrote: Do you find the DSP/XFIL filter presets, I/II, useful? If you haven't tried them yet, please do. Here's the short 73, Wayne N6KR ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3: split freq: time study
Here is what I just timed (10 measures each category) Using the Keypad entry method previously described (VFO A/B - touch the ENTER FREQ button, touch the keys for the discrete QRG - touch the "enter" button - and touch VFO A/B button again to get back on the right RX frequency). Any amount of frequency excursion (1 kc or 200kc) took me, on average 4.9 seconds. Using the Coarse/Fine button and "dialing in" using VFO B knob - for frequency excursions greater than 25kc, on average = 10.9 seconds. Methodology: Hit the coarse/fine button, use VFO B dial to dial in "close" to the QRG, hit the coarse/fine fine button and finish tuning in to the exact QRG. Just using VFO B for frequency excursions less than 10kc...and dialing in to the exactly QRG (obviously somewhat proportional to the total amount of excursion), on average = 6.3 seconds. [no use of coarse/fine button] So for maximum speed, use the keypad method. de Doug KR2Q PS...with appreciation to my younger daughter (12th grade) who was kind enough to use her stopwatch to time me and call out frequencies to go to. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Appalachian Trail on Sunday
Hello, I am going out on a hike with my brother on the Appalachian Trail on 2 March 2008 at 16:00 UTC. I should be on the air around 17:00 and 17:30 UTC. Not sure what band I will start out on but you can look for me around 7.035, 10.106 or 14.060 + / - due to QRM. I will be working towards my 1,000 QSO from the AT. Still looking for HI, MT and SD from the AT for a WAS. If anyone would like to make a schedule on a specific band, I will be checking my e-mails later today and tomorrow before I leave. I will be using my K1 and the BWV (Black Widow Vertical). 72 and Thanks, Ron Polityka WB3AAL www.wb3aal.com www.n3epa.org/ K1 - SN 01011 K2 - SN 01392 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Slow CW (WAS: VP6DX scraping the bottom)
Hi Keith, KB3ILS and All, Keith posted a few days ago "...The reason I am asking is I have a Navy Flameproof key here that I want to learn to use. Is slow QSO's the best way to do that? Maybe I can learn to use the straight key and help others at the same time.".. Ron, AC7AC responded... "... I find it easiest to run slow on a good ol' straight key, but then I learned on a straight key and used one for a year after getting on the air (before starting to learn a state-of-the-art Bug)). " ... I too learned to send cw with a straight key in 1958 (age 8). I still use a straight key. I used a straight key in the Navy in later years, both in RMA "A" school and 2304 High Speed school. CW wasn't used aboard my ship, because of the inception of "high tech computers" and the good ol' RTTY. I have and occasionally do use paddles and keyers, but my satisfaction comes from the J-38, or Flameproof, or one of the other straight keys that I have accumulated through the years. I'm not necessarily behind the times, but using these "artifacts" makes me want to get on the air and pound some brass more often! I enjoy a "slow" ragchew using the Elecraft rigs (no K3-mainly cause I haven't ordered one YET). I really like your attitude Keith. Anytime you want to try to hook up using the Flameproof and a K-rig, let me know. I can and will send at whatever rate you feel comfortable with. As for me quoting Ron, he helped me a few years ago getting my old Vibroplex bug adjusted. He's a bug kind of guy from what I have gathered over the years of reading the reflector. He's also a "closet glowbug" I believe. ;>) So am I, butGotta love these Elecrafts . I admire anyone that use one of those proficentally. I still practice with the bug, but it's in the rhythm. Rhythm is a big, big factor with any key. Practice, practice and more practice and you can send a legible message, even if you intermittenlty short two wires or two automobiles together.well, they have to be connected to your Elecraft of course! John, KD5EJA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] FS - KSB2 SSB Adapter & KIO2 I/O Module - One more chance
No longer need the KSB2 SSB Adapter (with 2.6 B/W mod) or the KIO2 (with cable) for the K2. Will sell separately or together. I need ay least $50 for the KSB2 & $50 for the KIO2 ($100 for both), price does not include shipping. If not sold here in one week goes on eBay. Both items include manuals. I am a retired US NAVY Electronics Technician (Spent 4 years as an instructor.) and these are quality built components! Were working prior to removal and were placed, immediately, into ESD bags. Please note I did not remove the parts installed in the K2 for the KSB2 other than the standoff, if you have not previously installed a KSB2 SSB module then installing the KSB2 also requires the installation of several parts on the Front Panel board ... o Resistor, 68.1 k, 1%, 1/4 W o (5) Capacitors, .01 uF, 0.2" (5 mm) o Connector, 2 x 8 pin male, .100" o Resistor network, 10 k, 4 R, 8 pins o Transistor, PNP, 2N3906 AND The main RF board will also require two three pin sockets and one 12 pin socket. o Samtec SSW-112-01-G-S o Samtec SSW-103-01-G-S (two needed) o standoff and miscellaneous mounting hardware All of these parts are available in kit form from http://www.unpcbs.com/ as the KSB2 Parts kit ($6.25 + $5.50 shipping & handling). This kit also includes the three RF board connectors, plus the standoff and miscellaneous mounting hardware. You can also order each of these parts from Elecraft - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Refer to the instruction manual for specifics. These would be installed as described starting on page 13 of the KSB2 Manual. If you already have the “No-rework” kits installed then you are a step ahead Installation of the KIO2 may also require some modifications of your rig as described in the instruction manual - depending upon your version of the K2 Main RF board. Please read the instruction manuals in the section regarding installation in the K2. These are available on the Elecraft webpage. Will accept PayPal. Rich, KE0X -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/FS---KSB2-SSB-Adapter---KIO2-I-O-Module---One-more-chance-tp15781448p15781448.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter presets I/II: present and future functionality
Tony, To reduce the width on SSB, try just using Hi Cut instead of the width and shift controls. Normally when reducing the SSB filter width, the low end should be near 300 Hz (the K3 uses 250 by default). Keeping the low frequency corner of the SSB filter fixed at 350 to 300 Hz preserves intelligibility as the highs are reduced with the Hi Cut control - try it, you might like it better than fussing with the Width and Shift controls - I do it that way all the time, no need to adjust the low end unless the filter is VERY narrow (less than 1400 Hz = Hi Cut at 1650 Hz) 73, Don W3FPR Tony Fegan VE3QF wrote: I am eagerly awaiting the firmware change that will shift the filter centre (on SSB) as it is narrowed. This will make the filter adjustment on SSB way more convenient. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Just Say No.
Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: >K3s are now all over the world! >.and even uninhabited islands like VP6DX!) Eric, I'm one of the biggest putz low band operators there are, and on cw it's even worse. But I had fun working VP6DX 5 times (3 cw, 2-ssb), using my K3 barefoot into a dipole. What made it even cooler was that the contacts where K3 to K3. The ops at Ducie were very nice to "struggling" ops. Thank you so much to them. But to say it simply, thanks to Elecraft for putting some fun back into ham radio. tom k8tb ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] k3 KXV3 Board Missing Pin
I was in the process of installing the KXV3 board in my K3. When plugging the 16 Pin connector on the KXV3 board into J66 on the K3, I noticed that the third pin from the right on the KXV3 connector was missing. The photo appears to clearly show all 16 pins there. Houston, do I have a problem here? Thanks, Terry, WØFM (Please reply direct to MY CALL at arrl.net) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] This mail is for Eric and Don. K2 Power mod.
Hi Eric and Don. I decided to do the k2 power mod involving r98 rf board. The first thing I did since 10m is the key here was to do a full alignment of 160-10m tx adjust per manual. When aligning 10m the manual states 28200. I would sugest that the manual states "highest frequency that would give 10 watts out on 28000khz" For me that was 28550 which also gave 9,5 watts on 29000. The max for 29550 was 12 watts. After adjustments I set PO28 to 10 watts. So a question for Eric and Don. I used a 2k pot for the mod and the point where the rf dropped a little was at 1,9Kohms. I inserted a 1,8Kohms. The rig is a lot more stable now on all bands. If you see any concernes here please let me know. BTW...This buity worked VP6DX 3 times on 20,17,15m cw from a lattitude of 66,2 north. A little help from THP 1.2KFX I must admit. And Eric...If I order a K3 now , when would my mothers creditcard be charged? :-) What would I need in a K3 to do a SO2R with my K2? K2/100 3829 Tom Arntzen LA1PHA Mo , NORWAY ( if everyone is against you , change your mind!) ( Tom Arntzen , 2005ac ) -- Jeg bruker gratisversjonen av SPAMfighter for privatbrukere. Den har fjernet 332 søppelpostmeldinger til nå. Betalende brukere har ikke denne meldingen i e-postene sine. Få tak i SPAMfighter gratis her: http://www.spamfighter.com/lno ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] This mail is for Eric and Don. K2 Power mod.
Tom, The best R98 value varies a lot from one K2 to another. If the amount of 10 meter gain reduction is acceptable to you, then you have achieved success. Since you ended up with 1.8k, that would indicate that your K2 has greater than average gain. On 10 meters the K2 has the least gain, so that is why 10 meter power reduction is the indicator for the largest value R98 that is feasible. I find that aligning the 10 meter bandpass at 28.4 MHz will allow better coverage of the 10 meter band. Take your pick here - if 10 meter CW is your major operation, I would suggest that 28.200 is the proper alignment point, but if you want to operate over the greatest section of 10 meters, use a frequency higher in the band. Don't forget to re-align the 12 meter bandpass after aligning 10 meters. 73, Don W3FPR Tom Arntzen wrote: Hi Eric and Don. I decided to do the k2 power mod involving r98 rf board. The first thing I did since 10m is the key here was to do a full alignment of 160-10m tx adjust per manual. When aligning 10m the manual states 28200. I would sugest that the manual states "highest frequency that would give 10 watts out on 28000khz" For me that was 28550 which also gave 9,5 watts on 29000. The max for 29550 was 12 watts. After adjustments I set PO28 to 10 watts. So a question for Eric and Don. I used a 2k pot for the mod and the point where the rf dropped a little was at 1,9Kohms. I inserted a 1,8Kohms. The rig is a lot more stable now on all bands. If you see any concernes here please let me know. BTW...This buity worked VP6DX 3 times on 20,17,15m cw from a lattitude of 66,2 north. A little help from THP 1.2KFX I must admit. And Eric...If I order a K3 now , when would my mothers creditcard be charged? :-) What would I need in a K3 to do a SO2R with my K2? K2/100 3829 Tom Arntzen LA1PHA Mo , NORWAY ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Is this comment necessary?
Consider the Source Thom the TROLL Larry Putman WB3ANQ - Original Message From: Rick Shindley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2008 2:09:46 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Is this comment necessary? "One would think that since the mailing list is owned by Elecraft, they can police the listas we've seen several times when Eric has called for an end to a particular thread." Kind people, What technical, ham radio-related or Elecraft-germane intelligence is conveyed above? It seems only an indictment of Elecraft for not policing its list better. Perhaps if Elecraft would police its list more then THAT cynical post would have been culled? And this one, too, one would think. Rick KC0OV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 & High Current Message
When keying up my K2 in SSB at 10 watts I get a momentary flash of high current. Is this a sign of a problem? Seems like there is a setting in the menu in regards to this, but want to be sure before I do anything. The transmit is fine, just the momentary flash of high current. Thanks! Ken/NO4D -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K2---High-Current-Message-tp15782599p15782599.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 SSB Low Power on some bands
Well, this is a strange deal and I'm not seeing anything in the archives relative to this particular situation. Just installed the KSB2 in K2 # 6272... Finished the alignment and filter settings Figured I would play with it for awhile and see how it does. WRONG :-) Low power on all bands except 40 mtrs. ( on SSB ) No / or very weak ALC / RF response regardless ofSSBA and SSBC settings. It's fine on 40 mtrs with good drive and output. This is still a QRP K2 with KAT2, KNB2 and now KSB2 installed. All tests and alignments were spot on and the rig works like a dream on CW on all bands.All functions are working as they should etc. I switch mic's and no change. ( before I realized it was fine on 40 ) I have an external watt meter in line with the antenna and it shows 40 meters around 10 watts while all other bands are down around 1 or 2 watts ( including 80 ) Rig shows good ALC and RF on the bar graff on 40 but very weak on all other bands. I wondered if the tuner was giving some problems so changed modes to CW and it has lots of power on all bands.( check each band comparing CW to SSB and no power on SSB while CW if fine ) I'm guessing it's something I overlooked but it's been a long day. I'll dig into this tomorrow. Any ideas of what I missed would certainly be appreciated. Thanks and 72: Jerry N0JRN ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 & High Current Message
Ken, That may or may not be an indication of a problem. Check the CAL CUR setting first - with the QRP K2 it should be set to 2.50 or higher - if you have the KPA100 it must be set to 3.50 or higher. Due to the way the K2 power is controlled, a low power source voltage will cause a Hi Cur warning. The K2 will try to produce the requested power output, and if the supply voltage is low, more current must be drawn to produce the requested power output. You may want to check your power supply and its connections under the load presented during transmit. If you have a combination of Hi Cur messages in combination with low power output, look for a problem in the Low Pass Filters or T4 of the base K2. I believe the original intent of the Hi Cur message was to alert those who are operating on battery power that the battery current is being taxed and battery life may not be as long as expected. Bottom line - it may or may not be an indicator of a problem - it all depends on your power source. 73, Don W3FPR Ken Kirkley/NO4D wrote: When keying up my K2 in SSB at 10 watts I get a momentary flash of high current. Is this a sign of a problem? Seems like there is a setting in the menu in regards to this, but want to be sure before I do anything. The transmit is fine, just the momentary flash of high current. Thanks! Ken/NO4D ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] FS - KSB2 SSB Adapter & KIO2 I/O Module - SOLD
Both the KSB2 and KIO2 are spoken for. Rich Rich (KE0X) wrote: > > No longer need the KSB2 SSB Adapter (with 2.6 B/W mod) or the KIO2 (with > cable) for the K2. Will sell separately or together. I need ay least $50 > for the KSB2 & $50 for the KIO2 ($100 for both), price does not include > shipping. If not sold here in one week goes on eBay. Both items include > manuals. > > I am a retired US NAVY Electronics Technician (Spent 4 years as an > instructor.) and these are quality built components! Were working prior > to removal and were placed, immediately, into ESD bags. > > Please note I did not remove the parts installed in the K2 for the KSB2 > other than the standoff, if you have not previously installed a KSB2 SSB > module then installing the KSB2 also requires the installation of several > parts on the Front Panel board ... > > o Resistor, 68.1 k, 1%, 1/4 W > o (5) Capacitors, .01 uF, 0.2" (5 mm) > o Connector, 2 x 8 pin male, .100" > o Resistor network, 10 k, 4 R, 8 pins > o Transistor, PNP, 2N3906 AND > > The main RF board will also require two three pin sockets and one 12 pin > socket. > o Samtec SSW-112-01-G-S > o Samtec SSW-103-01-G-S (two needed) > o standoff and miscellaneous mounting hardware > > All of these parts are available in kit form from http://www.unpcbs.com/ > as the KSB2 Parts kit ($6.25 + $5.50 shipping & handling). This kit also > includes the three RF board connectors, plus the standoff and > miscellaneous mounting hardware. You can also order each of these parts > from Elecraft - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Refer to the instruction manual for > specifics. > > These would be installed as described starting on page 13 of the KSB2 > Manual. > > If you already have the “No-rework” kits installed then you are a step > ahead > > Installation of the KIO2 may also require some modifications of your rig > as described in the instruction manual - depending upon your version of > the K2 Main RF board. > > Please read the instruction manuals in the section regarding installation > in the K2. These are available on the Elecraft webpage. > > Will accept PayPal. > > Rich, > KE0X > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/FS---KSB2-SSB-Adapter---KIO2-I-O-Module---One-more-chance-tp15781448p15782612.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] k3 KXV3 Board Missing Pin
Not at all. I had the same question last month. The staff says its suppose to be like that. They are in the process of updating the documentation. John Terry Schieler wrote: > > I was in the process of installing the KXV3 board in my K3. When > plugging the 16 Pin connector on the KXV3 board into J66 on the K3, I > noticed that the third pin from the right on the KXV3 connector was > missing. The photo appears to clearly show all 16 pins there. > > Houston, do I have a problem here? > > > Thanks, > > Terry, WØFM > > (Please reply direct to MY CALL at arrl.net) > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/k3--KXV3-Board-Missing-Pin-tp15782539p15782614.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] k3 KXV3 Board Missing Pin
Yes, that pin was intentionally removed on the later KXV3 modules. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Schieler Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 3:39 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] k3 KXV3 Board Missing Pin I was in the process of installing the KXV3 board in my K3. When plugging the 16 Pin connector on the KXV3 board into J66 on the K3, I noticed that the third pin from the right on the KXV3 connector was missing. The photo appears to clearly show all 16 pins there. Houston, do I have a problem here? Thanks, Terry, WØFM (Please reply direct to MY CALL at arrl.net) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Another one on order
Where a product is made makes a big difference too. When you send things overseas you'll find things like the first 100 coming off the line perfect. Then they'll start to slack off on quality control until you notice. Then things will start to pick back up a bit and they'll start to slack off again. You have to stay on top of it or the quality will start to diminish. Quality doesn't happen by accident. You have to have people who take pride in their product to make it well. One of the only ways that we can ensure that our products are always up to par with our standards we actually have a department that makes test equipment specifically for testing our products. These machines thoroughly test the product and have very tight standards which things must stand up to before we'll accept them. Once these systems are completed they are shipped overseas and all product must pass these tests before it is shipped to us. Depending on how much money and time you want to throw at making sure that the job is done right sometimes its just easier to keep your finger in the pie and do it locally. Granted you still have to do quality checks but they are much easier to do when you can actually physically see and touch the thing before it's shipped. On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 09:05 -0500, Bill Tippett wrote: > What matters most to me is > where the products are designed (i.e. the real value-added in today's > world). > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] RTTY and K3
Hi Lee, Here is my set up for RTTY with just the sound card and vox. 1. Connect speaker out from sound card to line in on the rear panel of K3. 2. Connect line in on sound card to line out on the rear panel of K3. 3. Go to main menu, use vfo b to select mic select and vfo a to select Line In 4. Turn on Vox by holding the Vox button. 5. Go to Main menu, select Vox using VFOB and pick a value for Vox gain. I have it set at 15 or so. 6. Use Mic to set line gain appropriately. Mine is at 15 or so. 7. With mode Data, press DATA MD and select AFSK A And you are all set. To turn on text decode, press TEXT DEC and turn it on using vfo A. Easy as pie. Raj, N2RD Lee Buller wrote: I am reading the book here and trying to understand how to set up RTTY or PSK with the K3. What gets in my way is the RTTY reading and generation algorithm. I am not all that excited about that right now, but I am just trying to get my sound card hooked up to the Input and Output with PTT as well. Three simple cables and I am sure where all that goes. What is confusing is how to set up the radio. AFSK-A is selected by the B Vfo when you use Data MD. So supposedly, the line out audio which goes in the sound card will work, but more importantly, the line in of the K3 will accept the audio generated by the soundcard. I don't have to turn on the TEXT DEC unless I want to see the RTTY message on the K3's screen. Once I get FSK set up and I would them change VFO B to FSK D. I think that is right...or have I taken a wrong turn... Lee In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3: split freq: time study. CORRECTION
Tonight, I tried to put into practice what I had written earlier...only to discover that it doesn't work as outlined. Apparently, when you do a direct keypad entry, it ERASES the SPLIT function. So when you're done, you have hit the SPLIT button again. Oh well. de Doug KR2Q ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] WTB
Hi I need the following parts, 1. (1ea.2sc1971 2.(2) ea. 2sc3133 I have tried ebay and always seem to get outbid! Any leads will be appreciated thanks, John KF7OM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: split freq: time study. CORRECTION
Thats no good... I was just playing with doing a lot of split stuff for the first time on my Kenwood and it would have been really annoying to have that going on. Especially once the sub RX is done. I'd think it to be kinda nice to be able to do entry into either RX with out the split ever going away... Maybe someday... :) On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 21:13 -0500, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote: > en you do a direct keypad entry, it ERASES the SPLIT ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 relays
I have rec'd the KPA100 and am into testing on page 48 where it states that I should here the bypass relays clicking as I scoll thru the power levels, at 11 watts I hear nothing but the rest of the tests in that section appear normal. Then in the Ext Amp keying test the resistance doesn't change and therefore the K2 would not turn on an amplifier (which I dont intend to use, but) it doesnt work. Anybody have any ideas ?? Earl ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
Good Evening, I am very glad the telephone is working again. I lost service early yesterday morning and only got it back an hour ago. I did not know whether I would be able to send this announcement out tonight. There are a few amateurs in the area who are subscribed to the Reflector but they are not easy to reach without a telephone! Weather has turned back to winter again. Today, as I was getting ready to travel down the mountain, it started snowing again. Not much stuck because it was mixed with rain but the temperatures are dropping. I may have a dusting by morning. I had slacked off stoking the fire like I was Casey Jones but now it is roaring again. Sam likes it that way! Before I lose the telephone this note better get sent. Hopefully you all would know to simply get on the air and find me as usual but I like a certain thoroughness and stability in my methods. Now back to the bench to find a bug in my firmware. I find this to be a lot of the fun of buiding around microcontrollers ;) Please join us tomorrow evening. 1) Hail signs (first letter or two of the suffix of your call) 2) NCS help (as well as QSP/QNP help) Sunday 2300z (Sunday 3 PM PST) 14050 kHz Monday 0100z (Sunday 5 PM PST) 7045 kHz ( Should we move the later net back to 0200z? ) Stay warm, Kevin. KD5ONS ecn.visionseer.com for net details ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] FS: KBT-2 internal battery for K2
The KBT-2 has been spoken for. Thanks for all of the interest. Dave N1iX -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of N1IX Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 1:39 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] FS: KBT-2 internal battery for K2 I am no longer in need of my assembled KBT-2 battery kit for the K2. I will ship it for $40 Dave N1IX ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] fo5a/MM
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 22:16:41 -0800, you wrote: >FO5A/MM is now on 7.228 at 0614Z. We just worked him 5X9 in Portland, >Oregon. > >73, > >Steve N7VS and Caroline KC6MZY [snip] Why am I seeing DX spots here? Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin 1775 Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] fo5a/MM
I just worked him from the Oregon coast (South Beach) at 0507Z using K3 S/N 10. 0614??? Aren't you off by an hour?? Your message was posted at 0445Z (2045 PST) Tnx for the heads-up! Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Childers, N5GE Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 8:44 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] fo5a/MM On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 22:16:41 -0800, you wrote: >FO5A/MM is now on 7.228 at 0614Z. We just worked him 5X9 in >Portland, Oregon. > >73, > >Steve N7VS and Caroline KC6MZY [snip] Why am I seeing DX spots here? Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com